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Give it a try after this episode@progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates not available in all states or situations. Prices vary based on how you buy it's October 10, 1991 Golden Light Shimmers across the snow covered Himalayas. Vast glaciers weave down valleys, jagged rivers of ice frozen in time. Above all, a titan looms. Everest epic tales are etched into this mountain, written by those who dare to climb it. In the highest reaches 26,000ft up. The air is ice thin. Wind and snow swirl all around. The temperature is minus 30 degrees Celsius and plummets further as the sun sets just below the summit. A lone climber trudges on the perilous slopes. 28 year old Dan Mazur is a tiny grain on an endless rock face. Not long before, he was descending the mountain, attempting to escape the freezing peak before nightfall. But he has had to turn back around because his climbing partner Rahman is missing. Somehow he's fallen so far behind that Dan has lost track of him. Dan steadies himself against the rising winds and scans the snowy ridge for his friend. In the twilight he is nowhere to be seen.
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We're hiking down, it got dark and got really windy. We had our headlamps on and then I didn't see Roman's headlamp and so I went back up there to see if I could find him and he was laying in the snow.
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Dan scrambles towards his fallen companion. He drops to his knees and tries to shake Rahman awake. His headlamp begins to flicker.
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Low Battery I was like roman, are you okay? I wasn't sure what happened to him and I started like checking his oxygen mask and checking mine and then I think I realized that his oxygen had run out.
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Dan rapidly straps his oxygen mask over his friend's mouth, leaving his own face exposed to Everest's icy wrath. But Ramon is still not moving. Dan tries to lift him up and he crumbles back down into the snow. Time is running out. The nearest camp is over an hour away and the route is narrow and jagged, often falling away on both sides into a glacial abyss. One wrong step would be fatal. Dan's survival training kicks into gear. He starts to dig next to Rahman, clawing at the Bone chilling snow. Every breath cutting through his lungs. Dan hauls Rahman into the snow hole, a makeshift shelter to keep him semi protected from the freezing wind. He barricades Rahman behind bags and two oxygen tanks, then curls up against him for warmth. The situation is dire. Rahman is in serious trouble. And soon Dan could be too deep in Everest's so called death zone. Tens of thousands of feet up, he has an impossible choice to make.
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Should I stay up there with Roman and would I be alive in the morning or should I go down? I decided to go down.
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Ever wondered what you would do when disaster strikes if your life depended on your next decision, could you make the right choice? Welcome to Real Survival Stories. These are the astonishing tales of of ordinary people thrown into extraordinary situations. People suddenly forced to fight for their lives. In this episode, we meet mountaineer Dan Mazur. Dan is no ordinary climber. To many around the world, he's the stuff of legend. In 1991, at the tender age of 28, he has already summited the highest peaks in the Americas, climbed all over the Soviet Union, and now wants to conquer the Himalayas. But things don't go to plan. After blagging his way onto his first Everest expedition, Dan and his climbing partner are thrown into enormous danger. Battling the extreme hostility of the world's highest mountain.
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I couldn't feel my fingers or my toes and I laid down and I was crying and I just realized like, Roman is dead right up there and this is where I'm gonna die.
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As exhaustion tightens its grip, will the elements engulf him? Can he fight his way to safety? And was it the right decision to leave his friend behind? I'm John Hopkins from Noiser. This is real Survival stor. It's late September 1991. In a climbing store in Kathmandu amidst the busy streets of Nepal's capital, a young American climber lingers around ropes, poles, helmets and snow jackets. Soft chimes, muffled motorbike exhausts and the scent of tea filter in from outside. Dan Mazur, however, is not here for the equipment. He wants to join an expedition to the Himalayas. He has been told that hanging around a climbing shop is the way to do it. But today, much like yesterday, is a slow day. The shopkeeper gives Dan a wry smile, as if to say, maybe soon. The door swings open. A large grizzled man enters the store and heads towards the hiking boots. The shopkeeper calls Dan over, pointing out the stocky, graying customer.
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He whispers, that guy there is going to Everest. And I looked at him and I could tell he was a Russian climber because I'd just been in the Soviet Union and I knew how they dressed and everything. I went up to him and I was like, are you going to climb a mountain? He's like, yeah, we're going to Everest. And I was like, really? Could I go with you? And he said, I don't know. Come to our hotel and meet our leader.
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Finally, this could be a chance to climb the world's highest mountain. It's an opportunity too good to miss. During his early years, Dan always sought out adventure in the wilderness, far away from his childhood home of Deerfield, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago.
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So I grew up in a really flat, boring place, so I wanted to be in more of a hilly place. I grew up on stories of my grandfather, who was kind of my hero, and he had great stories about being in the wilderness. As a young lad, I spent a lot of time in the summers in Canada in canoes, and we used to paddle our canoes everywhere. We thought people that would carry any heavy weight on their back and hike up a hill were really complete idiots. Why would you do that? Why would you carry a huge sack on your back and hike up a hill when you could just canoe there?
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But after finishing high school, Dan arrived at the University of Montana and began to understand why people fall in love with climbing. On his very first day, whilst most students settled into their accommodation, Dan trekked up the nearby Mount Sentinel, a challenging 5,000 foot peak.
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I mean, it takes your breath away when you see these amazing views to look out across the whole massive valley and spot where you've come from. Way down there, it's a tiny dot. The following weekend, someone had a car and we decided to go to the local national park, which was a couple hours away, called Glacier National Park. And we went up there and climbed up to Gunsite Pass. I was doing those things right from the beginning, right from the first day at school. It was just something that I wanted to do. I love the out of doors and it was something that I could do with my own two legs.
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By the 1990s, climbing became Dan's raison d'etre. After summiting a few local peaks, he climbed Mount Denali, North America's highest mountain. Not long afterwards, South America beckoned. Dan traveled to the Andes to scale the tallest mountain in all the Americas, Acongagua in Argentina.
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Climbing a mountain or going out on a big ocean or floating down a roaring river, it's almost like a way of going to church, closer to God or closer to nature or Nature is God, or, you know, I think that's something that a lot of people would share in those kind of outdoor experiences.
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Dan has a knack for being in the right place at the right time. A chance meeting in January 1991 kickstarted his journey to the Himalayas. In the university laundry room, Dan struck up a conversation with an interesting exchange student.
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We were talking and he told me he was from Siberia and I had read that There were some 7,000 meter peaks in the Soviet Union. And then he said that he had some friends who were part of a club in Siberia.
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After exchanging a series of emails with this Siberian climbing club, Dan flew out that summer to join his new buddies scaling enormous peaks in the Soviet Union, the pinnacle of which was summiting the Kozhenvsky Mountain in Tajikistan, more than 23,000ft high. Dan's greatest climb yet. But there's more to come. With the last of his student loan, he headed to New Delhi in order to reach the most formidable mountain range in the world, the Himalayas.
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I met a person in the youth hostel who mentioned they had just come from Nepal. I hadn't really thought about that and then they told me about it and I went to Nepal on a bus and then I rocked up in Kathmandu.
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After a few weeks to explore the mountains, however, Dan needs to obtain a permit. And the best way to get one of those is to join a climbing group. Dan has chatted to tea vendors, he's pinned flyers on restaurant notice boards, and he's lingered around the city's many mountaineering shops. But no opportunities have come his way. That is, until a grisly Soviet Georgian strolls into one of his climbing store hangouts. Dan's picked up some basic Russian and figures now is the perfect time to use it.
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And he was like, where are you from? And I said, I'm from America, but I've just been climbing in the Soviet Union. I named a couple of the mountains that I climbed. He's like, oh, wow.
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Rahman is a hard nosed but friendly 54 year old. Impressed by Dan's exploits, he invites him back to the Russian Embassy hotel to meet the team. Rahman is a veteran mountaineer who is attempting to become the first Georgian national to summit Everest. And if he succeeds, he'll become the second oldest person ever to climb the world's highest mountain.
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So I went to his hotel and then I met the team, the leader and everybody, and they were like, there's no way you can't. I told him my story. You know, I was in the Soviet Union climbing these peaks. And they're like, there's no way you can't join us.
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The climb of a lifetime is slipping through Dan's fingers. But he might just have an ace up his sleeve.
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Then I realized that I had in my pocket, I had a card, a business card that one of the people on the trip had given me when I was in the Soviet Union. And they looked at the card, they flipped it over, studied it, and they were like, how do you know this person? I was like, well, he was like our guide. They said, oh, you know this him and you climbed at them? And I was like, uh huh.
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The Soviet team sends Dan out of the room so they can discuss. An anxious wait ensues.
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And then after a while, they said, okay, you can come back in. And they then they said, okay, you can go.
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Once again, right place, right time. Using the last of his money to get his name on the climbing permit. Everything is set. And just four days later, Dan finds himself standing in the vast frozen valley of Everest Base Camp, staring up at the highest mountain on earth. Ryan Reynolds here for, I guess my 100th mint commercial. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't. No, no, no. I mean, honestly, when I started this, I thought I'd only have to do.
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Give yourself permission to snack and pick up Skinny Pop original popcorn today. 50 million years ago, the Indian subcontinent crashed into the Eurasian tectonic plate, driving the vast seafloor upwards and creating the colossal Himalayan mountain range. Embedded inside a sub range which runs along the China Nepal border sits the goddess Mother of the world, Everest. Layers of limestone, shale and marine fossils are woven into the bedrock of the mountain, revealing its ancient oceanographic origins. The climate on Everest is incredibly harsh. Freezing temperatures, high winds, and in the upper reaches, blizzards, avalanches and low oxygen levels. The first serious attempt to climb Everest was made 100 years ago in 1924 by British mountaineers George Mallory and Andrew Irvin. They never made it back. It was only in 1953 that Tenzing Norgay and Sir Edmund Hillary became the first climbers to reach the summit. Since then, Everest has drawn thousands of climbers. In October 1991, it's Dan Mazur's turn. Over the next few days at Base Camp, the team prepare for their ascent, organizing equipment, carrying out practice climbs and acclimatizing themselves to the high altitude. The team consists of seven Soviets and, including Dan, three Americans. It's a remarkable group.
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I realized that I was on the Soviet national climbing team and these people were like Superman. They were incredible. They would skip camps, so they would go from Base camp to Camp 2, skipping over Camp 1. But I was not incredible like that. I was just a normal climber.
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The south route up Everest consists of four camps. Before reaching the summit, climbers first face the treacherous Khumbu Icefall, a shifting glacier with deep crevasses and towering ice sheets. Next, they'll head across a flat valley and up the steep Lotse face to the South Ko, the fourth and final camp before the summit. But difficulties start to arise almost immediately. A French Nepalese group who they meet at Base Camp ask dan's team for $300 each to use their trail up the Khumbu Icefall. Short on cash, the Soviets refuse. Subsequently, they spend two days fixing their own route up. However, an explosive avalanche rips through the mountains and destroys the potential route. Fortunately, nobody is climbing at the time. But it means the team has to scrabble together all the cash they can and return to the French Nepalese group with their tails between their legs. Among the crags, craters and colossal slopes of Everest, things can yo yo very quickly. It's a lot for Dan and Roman, who are both finding it difficult to keep up with the pace of the other climbers. It earns Dan a casually sexist nickname.
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The leader came into the dining tent one evening in between vodka drinking sessions and said that they called me Daniela. They didn't call me Dan or Daniel. I was called Daniela, the feminine version of my name. And they said Danila and Roman would be climbing together. And I thought to myself, why would that be? And I realized that was because we were considered the dynamic duo of not being able to climb Everest.
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In his mid-50s, Rahman is no longer a speedy climber, but he is a very experienced one. He and Dan take the jibes from their team with grace and are quickly bonded together, enjoying the adventure despite the challenges, one of which is the equipment. It becomes clear that the Soviet climbing team's gear is far from cutting edge.
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So they produced this kind of like gray dome tent, like nylon, but it had no poles. They couldn't find the poles. So I scrounged around base camp and I found some bamboo stakes, or wands as we call them, and I made the poles by duct taping the bamboo together so we had a tent.
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Despite their slow speed and subpar equipment, Dan and Rahman prepare as best they can for the treacherous path ahead. With a clear route finally established, the team splits into pairs. The first climbers start their ascent on October 3, ready or not. Four days later, on October 7, Dan and Rahman set off facing the biggest challenge of their lives. It's 2am on October 10, 1991. The South Col. A barren wind scoured plateau 26,000ft up the final camp before the summit of Everest. Dan and Ramon struggle to get comfortable in their makeshift tent as a storm wails outside. It's just the two of them now, having climbed at their own steady pace. But after three punishing days, the end is in sight. They discuss plans for the final push from the South Col camp. Climbers typically start hiking up to Everest's Peak at around midnight. But the conditions tonight are poor, so Dan and Roman are having to wait. Though delaying for too long could mean getting caught in the darkness on the way back down. Something to avoid.
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And we looked out of the tent at 2 in the morning and it was really cold and really windy. It just looked nasty. And so we decided to go back to sleep. So we got up at around 5:30 when we could see the wind had dropped a little. So we decided to go for the top and we started going up to the summit. We left around 6:30 and we hiked. And it was a beautiful morning. We hiked up in the sunshine.
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The bright new day beckons the men to the top. With oxygen tanks strapped to their backs and masks over their faces, Dan and Roman trek up towards the South Summit, a high point on the southeast ridge. The route, narrow and jagged, often falls away steeply on both sides into a vast, icy chasm known as Everest's death Zone. At this altitude, there is insufficient oxygen to sustain human life for long. Nevertheless, on this clear October morning, the world unfolds beneath Dan in an extraordinary panorama of pointed peaks and endless sky. His climbing partner, however, is struggling from.
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Climbing with Roman for a few days. I'd come to realize that he didn't have A water bottle that he was part of the Soviet national climbing team and they thought you should just bring a little stove and whenever you needed to make water, you should make some like strong tea and drink that and then keep going. So I learned from, you know, being with Roman, I'm like, I knew from climbing other peaks, like, this guy needs a water bottle. He didn't have any snacks, so I brought chocolate for him. So I would stop along the way on the climb, you know, give him water, give him food, like, okay, Roman, drink this water, you know, chew this chocolate. You're going to need this.
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With Dan coaxing Rahman along, they keep climbing. The bright sunshine and blue sky hold until late afternoon, guiding the two men along the slender ridge. At around 4pm, Dan reaches the South Summit, a rocky outcrop 300ft below the very top of Everest. Standing in his way is the Hillary Step, a 40 foot vertical rock face named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Dan waits behind him. Rahman remains a speck on the distant crags. He's getting closer, but very slowly. Eventually, just after 5pm, Rahman arrives. He holds himself up onto the snowy platform, breathing heavily into his oxygen mask. The afternoon is eliding swiftly into evening, and even though they're so close, Dan remains cautious.
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And I asked Roman, I was like, roman, what do you think? Should we go back down? You know, it's getting late and maybe we should just go down. And Roman looked at the summit, you know, we were standing on the South Summit and then looking over at the Hillary steppe and all, and he said, well, I think I want to go up.
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That's that. Dan asks his partner to go first so he can keep an eye on him. Ramon starts to scale the rock face slowly, his pickaxe methodically plowing into snow covered stone. His limbs may be aging, but his mountaineering mind remains sharp. Dan follows. Not far now, at the top of the Hillary Step, in the distance, Dan spots some Tibetan prayer flags. These multicolored squares are draped over a faraway snowy mound. It's the summit. Dan increases his pace, catching up with Rahman so they can reach the peak together. And finally, as the sun sets, the two men make it to the top of the world.
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It was around like 7:30 at night and the sun was going down. It was a gorgeous sunset and we could see like the curvature of the earth looking out towards the Annapurnas and Dolgiri and we could see Kanchenjunga looking out into the Tibetan plateau and it was an incredible view. We took our pictures, our photographs on the summit and then we started going down.
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It's sweet, but short lived. They have to start descending with alarming speed. The light fades and the glacial winds rise. Dan and Ramon slowly scramble back down the Hillary step. Shards of ice start to ricochet off their oxygen masks, but they make it back to the southeast ridge in decent time. It's a tricky trail in the middle of the day, but now descending at night in harsh conditions, it could be lethal. They'll take it steady. Dan gradually trudges down the slope as stinging gusts of wind cut through the darkness. His muscles ache. He has to stop for a rest. Headlamp flickering in the swirling snowdrifts, Dan glances back up towards his partner, but Rahman is nowhere to be seen. He waits and waits, but he never appears. Dan turns back, hauling himself up the slope. He's just come down. After a couple of minutes, he spots a glowing light buried in the snow.
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I went back up there to see if I could find him and he was laying in the snow. I was like, roman, are you okay? I wasn't sure what happened to him and I started like checking his oxygen mask and checking mine and then I think I realized that his oxygen had run out. My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big roas man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laugh at me to this day. Not everyone gets B2B, but with LinkedIn you'll be able to reach people who do. Get a hundred dollar credit on your next ad campaign. Go to LinkedIn.com campaign to claim your credit. That's LinkedIn.com campaign. Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn the place to be to be so you want to be a marketer? It's easy. You just have to score a ton of leads and figure out a way to turn them all into customers. Plus manage a dozen channels, write a million blogs and launch a hundred campaigns all at once. When that's done, simply make your socials go viral and bring in record profits. No sweat. Okay, fine, it's a lot of sweat. But with HubSpot's AI powered marketing tools, launching benchmark breaking campaigns is easier than ever. Get started@HubSpot.com marketers.
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Across the south ridge of Everest, a blizzard intensifies. Somewhere inside the storm, Dan and Ramon lie coiled up together in a shallow snow hole barricaded in by their packs and oxygen tanks. Rahman is unable to stand. Dan digs further, trying to deepen his makeshift shelter and create some Protection against the raging elements. But the snow is getting harder and he can no longer feel his fingers. Dan turns, securing his own oxygen mask onto Roman's face. His breathing is rattling and irregular. Dan, meanwhile, is shattered. His body tells him to rest just for a minute. Now, without oxygen, he starts feeling disorientated.
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I started to see stars in front of my vision, weird, like sparks of light. And I thought to myself, you know, if I stay in this snow hole, will I see the sun rise? Will I even be alive when the sun comes up?
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A terrible decision now presents itself. Ramon can't move, that much is obvious. And if Dan stays here much longer, there's a good chance they'll both perish in the snow. If he leaves, he might just be able to get help and at the very least, save himself. But is he condemning his climbing partner, his new friend, to death? His headlamp is now out and you can hardly see a thing. They're about an hour from the South Col camp. Can he make it? Dan hauls himself out of the snow hole and gets to his feet.
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I don't think there's any really easy decisions in this case, so I decided to go down. I kind of buried Roman with more snow and I put a ski pole in, sticking up out of the snow as a kind of marker. And then I started down.
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Just before he leaves, he shouts to Rahman over the storm, promising to come back with help. There's no response, just the howl of the tempest in the intense dark. Dan staggers down towards the South Col as quickly as he can, dragging his leaden legs through deepening drifts. Without oxygen, the snow pulls him down like quicksand.
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And I was falling. My headland was dead. I had no oxygen. I was rolling, I was tumbling, I was crawling.
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With visibility at near zero, Dan relies on gravity and intuition to guide him down the precarious ridge. He stumbles every few steps, numb hands breaking his fall. Adrenaline courses through his veins, keeping frostbite at bay. But he has no idea how long he has been walking. Minutes. Hours? At this altitude, time becomes stretched and warped. His whole body starts to feel numb. His muscles are seizing up. At this height, climbers are at risk of developing cerebral edema, an often fatal swelling of the brain. This starts with severe altitude sickness, followed by bouts of hallucinations he's already experienced both. After what feels like an age, Dan notices that the ridge at last begins to plateau. The wind knocks him down once more, like taking a right hook from a heavyweight boxer. The gusts are now so strong and his body so weak that he can no longer stand.
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I was on my hands and knees and I couldn't go any further. I couldn't feel my fingers or my toes. And I laid down and I was crying. And I just realized, like, this is. Roman is dead right up there. And this is where I'm gonna die. And then I don't know what happened, but I woke up. It was still dark. I could see all the stars. The wind was still blowing hard. It was kind of gusting. And then it would let up a while. And then I was like, hey, I'm not dead. And then I just started to crawl.
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Somehow, from somewhere, Dan has rallied. He keeps crawling. Meter by meter, he drags himself along the plateau. His body begs him to rest, but he keeps on. And eventually, through frozen eyelids, Dan sees a flickering of light.
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And then I saw a shape in front of me and it was a ripped up tent blowing in the wind. I could hear this nylon blowing. And then I crawled a little further and I saw another tent. And I went to the tent and I got my head right on the zipper, my face. And I heard some voices and I tried to shout. I couldn't really shout. I was like banging my hands together, banging on the tent.
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Finally, the tent unzips.
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There were people in there and I was shouting and they shouted my name. Daniela. Daniela. And it was my two friends, Gennady and Alex, from our climbing team who had climbed up there that afternoon.
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Gennady and Alex haul Dan out of the storm and into the tent. But he's so cold he can hardly speak.
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They were shouting at me and what are you doing? And then I was like, you know, water, water, please. And they gave me some tea, hot tea to drink. And then I explained to them that Roman was up the hill and they need to go get him. And he's right up there. I had left him. He's still alive.
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Dan's frozen lips and babbling Russian make communication difficult. But the two Soviets understand. In a flash, Alex pulls out his oxygen tank and starts breathing into the mask, checking everything works. Genadi picks up a spare head torch and passes it to Alex. Dan wants to emphasize just how bad it is out there, but can't muster the words. Armed with oxygen and as many layers as possible, Alex unzips the tent and heads out into the blizzard. Dan is left inside, dazed and convulsing. As the warm tea filters through his body, he slowly regains feeling in his hands and feet. All he can do now is wait and hope that he Made the right choice in leaving Rahman behind. About an hour later, Alex returns alone.
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And he was like, I can't find Roman. He's not up there. And then I really cried and I really broke down and I realized that I had killed Romain because I was so selfish to want to get to the top. I had coaxed him up there to my own selfishness where he had no business being. He was totally unprepared. And I had lured him up there because I was so afraid to climb Everest by myself that I wanted to have someone with me, that I led him to his death.
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Alex removes his head torch and warms himself up with tea. He asks his climbing partner, Gennady, what to do next. As the blizzard swipes at the tent, they decide to wait for the storm to pass. Even though he's exhausted, sleep eludes Dan. He lies there wide awake, haunted. Eventually, the wind begins to ease.
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And then after an hour or two, the other climber in the tent, Gennady, said, I'm going to go look for Roman. And he had a brighter headlamp, and he had been drinking tea, and he had all his gear on. And then I passed out.
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It's dawn. Dan slowly wakes. Gingerly, he tries to move his bruised and stiffened limbs. Outside the tent, he hears something. Voices. He lifts his head. The voices edge closer. The tent zip begins to lower. In the gap, an arctic hat appears, followed by some shoulders and a torso. Dan recognizes the coat. It's Rahman.
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And they rolled Roman into the tent and slid him in on his back. And his face was totally gray and his lips were like a bluish purple. And his eyes were like, frozen shut. And I took some tea and I poured it on my hand and I rubbed it around on his face, and it was like a piece of frozen chicken. One eye popped open, then another eye, and Roman was alive. And I couldn't believe it. The guy lived. And he was actually kind of okay.
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It's a miracle on the mountain. Rahman begins to regain consciousness despite being semi frozen in Everest's death zone for hours. It's now clear that rather than killing Rahman, by making it to the South Col, Dan has actually saved him. Dan and Rahman, energy stores utterly depleted, still have to make their own way down to the safety of Everest Base Camp. There's no time to lose him.
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And I went down the mountain that same day because it was already morning. We were totally on our own. Gennady and Alex stayed to try to get to the top.
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They're out of the treacherous death zone, but they must still descend colossal walls of glacial ice, hike down snowy valleys and scramble through deep crevasses.
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We were so exhausted, we would fall over every few feet, lay on our backpacks for a while, try to get up. The ropes were all melted out, the ladders were all caved in. Like it was really scary getting across some of those crevasses.
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In the Kumbuis fault, the Khumbu Icefall, a constantly shifting glacier, is known for swallowing climbing equipment and obscuring previous pathways. It's slow going, but with every step down and every new camp reached, they are that bit closer to safety. Finally, after three grueling days, Dan and Rahman make it back to Everest base camp. They have faced the world's biggest mountain top to bottom and somehow live to tell the tale.
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It's mid October 1991. The Russian embassy Hotel in Kathmandu. Celebration is in the air. There is chatter, the popping of champagne corks, the clinking of glasses. A world away from the hostile peaks of the Himalayas.
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B
I was at a party at the Russian Embassy Hotel back in Kathmandu. We were there and they were all celebrating and stuff and, you know, their success. And I was kind of hanging out on the sidelines. And then Genadi, the person who had been the one to save Roman and bring him in, he came up to me at the party. He's like, danila, I have to tell you something. So we went over to the side of the room and he said, danila, did you know that Roman only has one lung? And I was like, what? You gotta be kidding me.
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Gennady explains that Rahman lost a lung at the age of 10 due to childhood tuberculosis. He also admits that they paired them together because none of them thought that either Dan or Rahman would succeed in reaching the summit. They presumed they'd Turn back together happily. Gennady says they were all proved wrong.
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B
I went all the way up there with this guy with no food and water, and he only has one lung. Incredible. So I guess Roman became the first person from Soviet Georgia, and maybe the first person was one loan to climb Everest.
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Despite saving Rahman's life, Dan says he still feels uneasy about what happened that night on the summit of Everest. Did he push his partner too far?
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B
You know, I could have insisted that we turn around on the South Summit when I waited for him for like an hour and then gave him our last food and water and then asked him what he wanted to do, kind of baiting him. What was I doing, you know, I should have just been like, look, it's way too late. It's nighttime almost. If we rush, we might get down to a decent elevation before dark, but we want continue to go up. Like what a suicidal move right there.
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Professional mountaineers often find themselves in difficult moral situations. Feelings of guilt, even in the aftermath of a successful rescue, can weigh heavily. But with his gift for being in the right place at the right time, Dan goes on to be involved in other high profile mountain rescues. The most notable of which is the famous rescue of Lincoln hall, also on Everest in 2006. By this point, Dan is a veteran.
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B
Mountaineering leader with the Lincoln hall thing. You know, we were up there right below the summit on a brilliant day. Everything's looking good, the sun is rising and then there's a fellow sitting on the ridge, right on the path, sitting there talking to us with his jacket off, you know. And on a freezing cold morning at.
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8,600 meters, Lincoln hall had been left by his climbing team the day before because he was suffering from hallucinations, frostbite and dehydration. They deemed it too dangerous to try and save him. After somehow surviving the nights without oxygen, Dan's team find him the next day and decide to abandon their own climb to rescue him.
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B
There's an element of rescuability when you're way up there, you know, and that's got a lot of ethical issues right in itself. But Lincoln hall was obviously rescuable and still in our own little group, there was division of people's feelings.
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It seems Dan's first rescue experience with Rahman is a formative one and goes on to influence his judgment on other difficult rescues. Dan's profile now draws climbers from around the world to his ice climbing expeditions at the Seattle Glacier School. He's seen by many in the climbing community as mountaineering's moral Compass. Although Dan will probably disagree with this label, his knowledge of the Himalayas gives him a shrewd insight into the changing nature of mountain climbing. Conquering Everest has become a more commercial pursuit which comes with positives and negatives.
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B
Where someone is putting themselves at risk and then other people have to take the responsibility for cleaning up, rescuing them, extracting them, getting them out of there. If you look at Mount Everest, it's really built on that, and it's evolved into a huge risk taking kind of machine, if you will. We have so much stuff in place now in Mount Everest, like fixed ropes, ladders, lots of Sherpas support. Now there's whole fleets of helicopters that move in and out of there, taking climbers out if they're ill. You know, the risk level is much reduced now. Now a lot of people might say, but the people who are going are less prepared, so in a way they're more risky people. So the risk is there. And is it justifiable? Is there such a thing as, like justifiable risk?
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Dan continues to work to make climbing as safe as it can be. And in 2018, he is awarded the Sir Edmund Hillary Mountain Legacy Medal.
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B
It was a really huge honor that they gave that to me and I think they gave that to me for the rescues that I did. And also because I was doing a lot of charity and I still do a lot of charity work out in the Himalayas with local people, with building schools and hospitals, environmental projects like the waste treatment plant for Everest Base Camp. We're designing and outfitting low cost medical kits for Sherpa guides to Airy when they're in the mountains guiding groups or with their own teams of people climbing. My philosophy is that wherever you are, wherever you live, wherever you work, wherever you go, try to give back to the people there and the environment. You're only on earth for a short time.
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Whenever Dan comes across Georgians climbing around the world, they already know his name. After all, he's the man who saved one of their own. Roman used to write to Dan regularly, but he hasn't heard from him in a while. However, 12 years after their Everest expedition, the two unlikely climbing partners did bump into each other once again. Right place, right time.
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B
I saw him at the 50th anniversary of the first ascent of Mount Everest at the British Embassy. They had a big kind of party. Sir Edmund Hillary was there and a lot of famous people were there, and Roman was there, and that was so cool. And his daughter was there so I.
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A
Could talk to him.
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B
And that was really, really special. To see him and talk to him and oh my God, we just laughed and that was an amazing thing. Thing.
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In the next episode, we meet recently retired theater teacher Mori Pierso as he sets off on a later life adventure. Mori is on a stunning voyage taking him across the Atlantic from the US To Iceland. He is part of a sailing crew of three with a combined age of nearly 200. But when a freak wave strikes, Mori's grand retirement plan becomes something far more sinister. He'll face freezing temperatures, the constant threat of drowning and memory blackouts. And even if help can reach them, getting out of this situation will take a monumental effort. That's next time on Real Survival Stories. Listen to Maury's story today without waiting a week by subscribing to Noiser Plus.
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