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Jack Myers
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It's 868 AD we're in the vast open wastes of the North Atlantic. It is rough, unforgiving, deadly. Unlike the North Sea, these waters stretch on forever, an unrelenting gray seascape, one of undulating peaks and troughs, of dark, hidden valleys, of foreboding crags flecked with foam. The boat rides the swell, rising and plunging, waves crashing over the prow. The only thing between life and death is a few inches of Norwegian oak. This ship is more chunky than the usual kind, not the light, swift dragon boats used for summer raiding and river hopping. It's a cargo vessel, a canal Wider, heavier, sturdier. It can accommodate over 60 people, men, women and children. Not raiders here, but craftsmen, tradespeople, farmers, builders, hunters, settlers. And they have all taken a giant leap of faith to establish a colony in a land on which none of them has ever set foot, and whose location is only vaguely known. To boldly go, as one might put it, where no man or woman has gone before. The passengers huddle under the spare sails, strung across the deck as an awning. In pens at the stern are cattle. Their unease increases the tension. And at the helm is the man to whom the travelers have pledged their trust, an artisan of the fjords, a boat builder, a man called Floki Vilgerthason. Someone, it is whispered, who is a kinsman of the great Ragnar Lothbroker. Though there are few men in the Viking realms who don't boast of a connection. According to the accounts of seafarers, the land they seek is a large island. And the best soil, it is said the most farmable, lies way round to the west, warmed by what we know today as the Gulf Stream. Floki blinks into the spray. His furs and leathers are drenched, his hand on the steerboard numbed by the cold. Three days out from the Faroe Islands, and they should by now have sighted it. Supplies are limited. Time is running out. With traditional methods of navigation failing, Floki resorts to his own. In a wooden cage sit his three black ravens, the bird of Odin. Ravens have a homing instinct. Unable to locate a place to roost, they will instinctively fly back to the coop. Floki will release them in succession until one doesn't return. Over the coming hours, in relay, the ravens take to the sky. The first, disorientated, head straight off to the southeast, back towards the pharaohs, never to be seen again. The second, after disappearing out of sight, eventually comes flapping home. But the third soars off, determined it is hell bent on flying north. This is it. As the boat steers in the bird's direction, it coincides with a glimpse through a bank of fog, the silhouette of a rugged coastline. The island Vikings are famously wary of fog, believing it to be cursed. But Floki ploughs his ship right through, and his crew will follow the shoreline round, dropping anchor eventually in the far northwest, A settlement is established at a place named Ovatensfjorder. But life will prove unbearably harsh. The magic of summer's near 24 hour daylight, so bright you can pick the lice from your clothes at midnight, will be offset by a winter so dark, so cold, so brutal that none of the colony's cattle survive. Come the spring thaw, the outpost is disbanded. Haravna Floki, or Raven Floki, as he is now known, will return to Norway. His testimony will be presented to the royal court. The island is worthless, he declares, nothing but a bitter, frozen waste. It is, as he puts it, an Iceland. I'm ian glenn and from the noiser podcast network. This is real vikings part 5. In this series, we've covered many aspects of the Viking age. We have watched how piracy and pillaging have evolved into settlement and trade. We've witnessed hit and run skirmishes escalate to military campaigns waged by great heathen armies. We've seen warlord territories morph into political entities, fledgling kingdoms. As Danes have settled in Anglo Saxon England, so Norwegians have interacted with Scotland and Ireland. We have followed Northmen into Frankia and seen Swedish Vikings edge down mighty rivers into the heart of Russia. Until now, as impressive as their seamanship is, there has been something characteristic about Viking navigation. It is all about shore hugging, edging along coasts or inland waterways, never putting out into the open sea for more than a day or two. The North Sea, not that it can't cut up wrath, is essentially a shallow basin, a contained body of water. So too is the Baltic. Cast off from Scandinavia, west or east, and you will soon hit land.
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Tim Spangler
For Viking navigators, there remains one final frontier, a wide gray yonder, the North Atlantic. William Fitzhugh is the director of the Arctic Studies center and curator of the Department of Natural History at the Smithsonian National Museum.
Jack Myers
The story of the expansion across the North Atlantic was a totally different ballgame. It was done by people who were farmers, who were looking for ways to keep their families going, to discover new resources. The Viking times was not just a time of carnage and pillaging and so forth, but a very real story about people and their families and their lives. Not just rather lurid, biased impression, mostly described by people who are at the wrong end of the Viking sword. I mean, as these guys crossed the North Atlantic, they were not really Vikings at all.
Tim Spangler
As Norse sailors make passage round what we call today the north of Scotland, they have come across two sets of islands. Both are settled relatively quickly. Orkney, 10 miles off the mainland, and Shetland, 50 miles to Orkney's northeast, are grouped together in Viking terms as the Northern Isles. They will become part of the Kingdom of Norway in 875. With rich pasture and sheltered anchorage, they are perfect spots to settle. The climate, if you remember, is in the throes of the Medieval Warm Period, several degrees more equable than today. In both locations, Norse invaders quickly supplant the local Pictish population. They have been part of a community known as the Cat or Catti people. Their name lives on today in mainland Caithness. The conveyance of settlers necessitates an upgrade in ship technology.
Jack Myers
Initially it was the coastal travel, but after the raids began and so forth, they realized they had to carry a lot of other material. You know, you had to bring your cows, your families and all your chattels and everything. The open longboats that were the raiding kind of boats were not suitable at all for that kind of life. And that became the canards that then were the vehicles for the expansion.
Tim Spangler
These twin archipelagos, comprising between them over 200 islets and skerries, also serve another practical function. They are way stations, pit stops, a place to replenish en route to a final destination settlement of the Hebrides, maybe the Isle of Man Island. Or a new set of islands that have since come into focus. 50 years on from the settlement of the Northern Isles, Norse seamen were put ashore on fresh terrain 200 miles to Shetland's northwest, the Faroe Islands. Though more rocky and barren here, there's still sufficient pasture to sustain a colony. Their name literally means sheep islands. It's a good place, too, to build up supplies of a handy non perishable foodstuff, salted cod. And so the pharaohs are similarly brought into the Viking orbit.
Jack Myers
There was a tremendous lore that was developing, so it really was an opening of a new era.
Tim Spangler
Like many of the Atlantic discoveries, it is by accident that the pharaohs are found. A typical case of sailors being blown off course. Not that these islands can claim to have been discovered as such. Their existence was recorded by an Irish monk, Dick Wheelas, writing in the mid-800s. Indeed, the first Norse landings confirmed that there had been prior settlement by Celtic monks, hermits known as Papa. They had sought sanctuary here, pursuing a monastic existence far from civilization. The experience of the Papa will add a twist to Nordic adventuring. The pharaohs are about to assume a role in a brand new phase of Viking expansion. Not for the purpose of trade, nor for conquest. The pharaohs are to become the staging post in an exodus. A means for the likes of Floki to escape, just as those monks had done, from the strictures of everyday politics and society. A stepping stone for people, dissenters, pilgrims in search of a new life, a new world. The last port of call before a voyage into the unknown.
Jack Myers
That's the beauty of the North Atlantic, because it has these bridging islands. The Norse also had an idea that wherever they traveled toward the west, they would find more land. This just became a kind of like a basic doctrine.
Tim Spangler
Scandinavia is changing. There is a growing sense of interconnectedness with other European nations. As trading has taken off, so the importance of the ports and the market centers has increased. In a nod to continental tradition, warlords have begun to style themselves as kings, if only to gain them credibility when dealing with foreign courts. As rulers of these ports and their hinterlands, territories are refashioned and expanded as petty kingdoms and fiefdoms. And Viking rulers are also playing their part in a seismic cultural shift, a conversion to Christianity. These societal changes are having repercussions. At the lower end of the social order, humble farmers, fishermen, and tradesmen whose loyalties have only ever been local find themselves being redesignated as subjects. They are obliged now to pay tribute, fealty and taxes to their increasingly distant royal and now Christian overlords. They must attend the spanking new churches that these nouveau monarchs insist on throwing up. For many, the old pagan traditions can still be practiced on the sly or simply adorned with a bit of biblical window dressing. Even the legend of Floki carries echoes of Noah and the flood, as the Saxons found before them. The Scandinavians are able to fuse their beliefs with these new ideas. The spring fertility rituals of the pagan gods conveniently align with Christian holy week, making for a hybrid festival that the Norse call Ostara Easter, the winter solstice feast. Yule, with its burning logs and winter greenery, continues untrammeled, simply spliced onto Christmas. Dr. Pragya Vora.
Dr. Pragya Vora
And this kind of syncretism between the old religion and the new religion is seen in multiple places. And it's clearly part of that sort of transitional period when people are learning to perform their new religion. But it's being taught to them through the lens of their old stories and their old gods and myths.
Tim Spangler
In a land of epic storytellers, the sedate nativity has some way yet to compete with the bombastic yarns of the Norse sagas. Tales of giants and monsters and the mighty deities come to smash them. As one sailor put it, on land, I worship Christ, but at sea I always invoke Thor. It is the star of one such legend, one classic folk story, who will push things to tipping point. It's the year 860. We're in Norway, in a dwelling on what is today's Oslo fjord. In the long haul, the dead of night, a local chieftain lies on his deathbed, his name is Halfdan the Black. As is usual when a leader is about to expire, his faithful gather at the bedside, though as much to pick over the spoils of his estate as to pay last respects. In the shadows behind Halfton's wife and sobbing attendants stand the Earls, the Jarls, each posturing for a place in the line of succession. Halfdan has only one son, you see, Harald. And Harald is but 10 years old. It is a situation ripe for exploitation, for a Jarl to be appointed as his regent, the power behind the throne, or perhaps for Halfdan to bypass his son altogether and place the kingdom in safer, more mature hands. It is wishful thinking. With what little strength he has, Halfdan clutches his boy to his bosom. It is he, he confirms with his dying breath, who is his anointed successor. And don't let anybody say otherwise. The Jarls eye each other. The life expectancy of a child king, as everyone knows, is incredibly short. 10 year old Harold is more likely to die by assassination of some mysterious accident than he is of natural causes. Harold, though, is a bright lad. He has enough wits about him to play the Jarls off against each other to keep a firm grip on the crown as he navigates his way into young adulthood. And it is here, as a no doubt pimply adolescent, that young King Harold, or so it goes, falls head over heels in love with a princess, Princess Gyda of Hordaland. In true fairytale fashion, Princess Gyda has certain conditions about their match. She refuses to take Harold's hand in marriage until he fulfills her request that he becomes King of all Norway. Harald, in return, vows to honor her wish. What's more, as a symbol of his devotion, he pledges never to cut his hair or wash it until he has made good on his promise. And thus, the legend of Harold Fairhair, or Fine Hair, as he is sometimes called, comes to pass. With love in his heart, his flaxen mane flowing if a tad greasy, King Harald Fairhair will become the overlord of a united Norwegian kingdom. It's a nice story, thoroughly Disney testament to the skills of Harald's PR people. In reality, Fairhair's clan can rival the most murderous royal houses in history in terms of bloodletting and internecine slaughter. Gyda, it turns out, will be just one of seven or more damsels Harald takes his wife during his lengthy reign, making for at least 20 sons, some say 200, all vying to rip his realm asunder, the most notorious of whom, in typical unsubtle fashion is dubbed Eric Bloodaxe. But it is true that after crushing his rivals at the battle of Hafesfjord, King Harald Fairhair secures rule of a proto Norwegian state. This will form an important part of modern Norway's creation myth. Later in the 19th century, Harald will be toted as a symbol of resistance during Norway's struggle for independence from its union with Sweden. In the fields and fjords for men like Floki, the unfolding chaos and violence is destabilizing to a traditional way of life. And there's that Christian God again, the one that Harold insists on imposing a status symbol, sign of his own elevation.
Jack Myers
Europe was being transformed by Christianity and kings assuming control. Those systems were spreading north into southern Scandinavia, Denmark first and then into Norway and very late actually in Sweden. Sweden stayed rather pagan for a long time. But with coming with Christianity, all sorts of different things began to play out. And as the kings began taking authority and, you know, turning a lot of these independent farmers into vassals and so forth, the unrest was palpable.
Tim Spangler
For some hardy souls, enough is enough. The only solution is to strike out to get away from the death and the religious repression. And with all the good land now taken in the Northern isles and pharaohs, it means seeking land anew. Professor Davide Zori the saga sources tell
Professor Davide Zori
us about Scandinavians settling Iceland partially as a response to the state formation that's going on in Norway, as Harald Fairhair is uniting that country and taking away free farmer rights as Iceland is discovered. This information about a vast unsettled landscape with wide open pasturage and forests that stretch from the sea to the mountains. This is spreading across the Viking world.
Tim Spangler
Floki is by no means the first to voyage to Iceland. A Greek explorer, Pytheas, putting out from Massalia Mont? Ne Marseille, had sailed its waters as long ago as 325 BC. Pythias had been mesmerized by the phenomenon of the midnight sea, son. And then there are those monks again, those Papa. According to a later chronicler, Ari the Wise, a monastic retreat, long since abandoned, was established on Iceland as early as 770, a whole century before the Viking arrivals.
Professor Davide Zori
The textual sources mention Papar, but the texts say that the monks, the Irish monks, quickly left. There's an island called Pop A, from the name that the Norse used for the monks. But people have not been able to find anything that is convincing archaeological evidence of their presence. I mean, we have to admit they have a kind of self limiting population strategy. They are a group of single men living in isolation. So they were never going to be permanent settlers.
Tim Spangler
In the mid 9th century, a Norwegian called Nadothor had overshot the pharaohs and detailed a snowy landscape rising on the horizon.
Professor Davide Zori
It's discovered in the way that most of the islands are discovered. Someone's blown off course. In fact, we can think of the island hopping of the Vikings as having kind of three phases as they move across the North Atlantic. That is, there's a phase of discovery, usually accidental, then there's a phase of exploration and then the third phase is this permanent settlement.
Tim Spangler
Nadother's claims are influential on a Swedish mariner who goes on to circumnavigate Iceland, confirming it to be an island.
Professor Davide Zori
His name is Garthur Svar. He's got a pretty high opinion of himself, so he calls the island Garthur's island, but doesn't settle permanently. The third attempted exploration, that's by a character named Raven Floki.
Tim Spangler
And as we know from our opening scene, Raven Floki's attempt to set up shop is short lived.
Professor Davide Zori
He arrives in Iceland with several followers and animals to try out this permanent settlement. And he sets into Brodfjord, Braedefjord in western Iceland. The summer is pretty good, so he's not so worried. But winter sets in, the animals start to starve. And this is part of the story of dealing with Iceland is it might look okay in the beginning, but then it gets rough. Icelanders have this expression, it's called glucavedr window weather. So when you're sitting in your house and you look out the window, it looks pretty nice. And then you go outside and you realize how miserable it is.
Tim Spangler
Even with its existence established for Scandinavian navigators, out in the open sea, with no coastline to follow, locating Iceland is still a shot in the dark.
Jack Myers
When they left Bergen to head toward Iceland, you took a certain wind. And when you got close to Iceland, you began to be aware of birds which would come down from the north. So they were masters at looking at the signs, following the waves, the winds, the birds, the animals. They did not have any navigational instruments, which we think is kind of surprising. They had a staff that they would hold against the gunwale and they could measure the angle of the sun at midday, which gave them a latitude line. And so they were then able to follow this latitude line. And mostly that's what they did. They were sailing westward or eastward. And then they were interrupted by storms, of course, and many, many stories about those who were created
Tim Spangler
like Floki. Some prefer their own methods. A Norwegian seaman called Ingolfer Arnoldsson puts out from Ireland in a ship laden with Celtic slaves. On sighting Iceland in the distance, he simply throws two pieces of timber overboard, the twin pillars of his high chieftain's seat. Wherever they pitch up, he says he's going to make landfall. The current carries the wood to a western cove, but the steam from hot geysers rises in the background. Arnason calls it Smoky Bay in Old Norse Reykjavik. And it is here, in 874, just six years after Floki's aborted mission during the first flush of Harold Fairhair's rule, that Arnoldson will establish Iceland's first permanent settlement. In truth, his quest is less to do with dissension than refuge. He is an outlaw wanted for murder back in Norway. It is clearly in the blood. On landing, there is soon conflict with some of the Celtic slaves who rise up to kill members of Arnason's party, including his own brother. The slaves will flee to the offshore Westman Islands, as they are known today. Westman, meaning Celt. Arnoldson will track them down and exact his bloody revenge. But in the new Wild west, anything goes. Arnoldson has fired the starting gun, and the word Viking, with its piratical associations, will soon fade when it comes to Scandinavian forays into the North Atlantic. Instead, Arnoldsen will be the first of what will become known as the Landman's Men, the land grabbers. Iceland is an El Dorado, a place for pioneers, opportunists and renegades. The land rush, the land Nam is on.
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Tim Spangler
Floki, it turns out, has been way too dismissive of this Iceland the sub arctic Iceland of the late 9th century turns out to be temperate with a pleasant summer climate. And unlike today, it's rich in vegetation between the bogs and wetlands, its landmass is covered by up to 40% with forest with bountiful pasture to boot, and no mosquitoes. The volcanoes and lava flows do lend a certain end of days feel, evoking visions of Ragnarok, the Viking Armageddon. But Iceland's hot springs and geothermal heat can ease the torment of winter. It has one deficiency. The sulfurous soil does not support the growing of cereal crops. The colony is dependent on imported grain. But as the sea routes become well established, Iceland can be well supplied. The 600 mile route from Norway via Shetland and the Faroes can be sailed in seven to 10 days. Seafarers can be guided now by an established nautical landmark, the 7,000 foot dome of the Vatna Kuj glacier. Plus Iceland can generate alternative wealth in the shape of walrus, ivory, the skins of polar bears who drift down on the ice floes. And it has cod and salmon like you wouldn't believe, as well as plentiful seabirds for the eating, particularly puffin. Compared to the Norse people still in Norway, this is a new area of economic activity.
Jack Myers
What is a little surprising when you think about the Norse economy is that there doesn't seem to be much of an attempt to utilize seals, which are very plentiful in that area, provide skins and blubber and food and so forth. And it just seems like, you know, the Norse had this preoccupation, the economy on land and sheep and goats and cattle and horses and so forth.
Tim Spangler
Within 50 years, Iceland's population swells from just a few hundred to around sixty thousand. Around three to four thousand families, including a substantial contingent of Celtic stock, just like those that Arnoldson brought with him slaves or thralls.
Professor Davide Zori
Modern DNA research has to an extent confirmed the stories that we have from the sagas in that a mixed population of Scandinavians and peoples from the British Isles were part of the settler population to Iceland on the Y chromosome side. So, so with the males, about 75 to 80% of the Y chromosome haplogroups in Iceland are comparable to Scandinavians. That leaves 20% circa as non Scandinavian, probably from the British Isles on the mitochondrial DNA side. So the mitochondria transfers from the mother to the daughter. A surprise here is that only about 40% of the mitochondrial DNA haplogroups are comparable to Scandinavian haplogroups. So you have more than 50% of the women coming from the British Isles. All genetic indications are that this is a mixed population with more Celtic females than we at first believed.
Tim Spangler
It accounts for an untypically Norse showing in the modern Icelandic population of dark eyes and hair.
Jack Myers
One of the big surprises was that the rats in Iceland are all British rats from the DNA that came in the British ships.
Tim Spangler
Iceland's location, its isolation from the Norse mainstream, puts it in a unique position for today's historians, making for almost a time capsule of Viking life. For archaeologists, layers of ash from volcanoes over the centuries, such as the one whose plume drifted over Europe in 871, have provided useful markers in terms of dating different phases of Norse settlement, as well as preserving all manner of artifacts. In Iceland, tales of trolls and elves live on. Even the Icelandic language has developed in a relative vacuum, more akin to Old Norse than modern Norwegian, Danish or Swedish.
Dr. Pragya Vora
So one of the more recent areas of academic research has been the question of mutual intelligibility between Old Norse and Old English. And particularly the Icelandic sagas claim that the language in England at the time was the same as they spoke in Iceland. One saga in particular, the saga of Gunnlaug Serpent Tongue, tells us that the language changed when William the Bastard took the throne, and then the English started speaking French.
Tim Spangler
The Old Norse patronymic naming system remains in place in Iceland to this day. A son of a man named Magnus, for example, will assume the surname Magnussen, the daughter taking Magnus Dotier. And then there is Iceland's literary tradition, harking back to its writers and traveling poets, or skalds. Their prowess as raconteurs made them famous throughout the Norse realms and a central addition to every royal court. Due to its Celtic connections and later willingness to embrace literacy, Iceland has become an important repository of record for early Viking history, either through its sagas, its Poetic Edda, or especially its land Namabok, the Book of Settlements, the most comprehensive recorded work on the early arrivals in Iceland. Dr. Eleanor Barraclough.
Dr. Eleanor Barraclough
The Old Norse Icelandic sagas are a really interesting but tricky source. They're tricky because although they have long oral tales that stretch back into the Viking age itself, they are written down in manuscripts from around the 13th century onwards. We're talking of lag of several Hundred years. It's also true that these sagas are storytelling narratives. They're there to educate, but they're also there to entertain. Many of them are being told round the winter fires, you know, on those farmsteads during those long, dark Icelandic winters. And so things crop up in them that we really wouldn't expect to see in a historical source. And they really do inhabit that hazy borderline between what we would think of as fact and what we would think of as fiction. Just when you think you have a handle on what's going on, suddenly a dragon pops up, and you're just not quite sure where you are. With that.
Tim Spangler
What the sources do agree upon is that for the early pioneers, life in Iceland is hard. Rudimentary. Houses are built from cut earth with sod roofs over timber frames. Animals through the winter, to avoid the fate that befell, Floki's cattle must be brought indoors at nighttime, sharing the same cramped accommodation. The diet is limited, with few vegetables and almost no fruit, just what you can gather by way of berries. With farmsteads miles from each other and no village life of which to speak, it is a struggle for survival in isolation. Humans against nature. And as ever, it is the women who are the backbone of the communities. In a new land with no official coinage, they find themselves inadvertently the creators of wealth.
Dr. Eleanor Barraclough
We often find evidence for women in the archaeological remains of textile rooms on the farmsteads, where the women would have woven the wool from the goats, from the sheep that they would have turned into cloth that becomes an actual form of currency in medieval Iceland. You take away the women, you take away their weaving, you take away their incredibly intricate, important, technologically advanced cloth. Well, then you take away the sails of the Viking ships, you take away their clothes. You know, you end up with some naked men sitting in a rowing boat
Jack Myers
that was very different from the European pattern of the male dominance society. So there was this rather interesting evolution of the big, powerful men, but also the big powerful women, you know, who were maintaining the settlements, keeping the economy going, while people were either Viking expeditions or discovering new lands.
Tim Spangler
It is in Iceland, as recorded in the Landnamabok, that we meet one of the most remarkable people of the Norse age of discovery, one of its famous misfits. Ord. The deepminded Ord is the widow of Olaf the White. In the late 9th century, Olaf had co ruled Dublin with Ivar the Boneless, one of the sons of Ragnar Lothbrok. As the story goes, in the late 800s on the run in northern Scotland, her family in danger, Ord decides to strike out for Iceland's brave new world.
Professor Davide Zori
She was a very powerful woman in her own right and ends up leading an expedition. She builds a knorr secretly in the woods so nobody will know what she's up to. And she gets her supporters and animals and everyone else, including a grandson, and they move to Iceland as a unit. So she's the leader of this group of settlers.
Tim Spangler
On acquiring land in the western region of Thalassisla, she proceeds to divide it up equally between her party, freeing her slaves into the bargain. Ord, the Norse world's first female chieftain, will on her death be accorded a full Viking ship burial, the first known woman to be honoured in that way. But it is her act of land distribution that sets something of a pattern for Iceland settlers. There is no concept of a unified nation yet. Iceland is still a collective of homesteaders, notionally Norwegian subjects. But to its people this is no longer a land governed by decadent Old World rule and monarchical hierarchies. It is egalitarian, proto republican. Iceland comes to represent not just a land of opportunity, but a land of the free and one that must be governed by a common law. It's the present day. We're in Reykjavik in a modest stone, two story 19th century building. The unassuming structure is the seat of the Icelandic government, the old thing Icelandic for general meeting. In today's session, it's business as usual. A debate over a whaling moratorium, a report on school exam results, a discussion of forthcoming elections. If it all seems fairly unremarkable, it's because Iceland gets on with life without much of a fuss, pursuing its own independent line. It is a tradition of collective problem solving that goes back 1100 years. Founded in 930, the Althing holds a unique distinction. It is the oldest democratic parliament in the world. The site of the Althing has moved since it was founded. It began 30 miles away in the spectacular valley of Thinkvellir, or assembly fields, right on the continental divide where the tectonic plate of Europe meets that of North America. Here the great Logberg, or Law Rock, looms high over the Axe river, so called because sessions commence with an axe being tossed into the water. At this geological crossroads, a democratic medieval polity is being born. For two weeks every June, freeman from all over Iceland will descend to discuss issues over farming land, sheep grazing and give an airing to disputes and squabbles. It is presided over by a law speaker, a log shore march, who rings the bell and sits alongside his council to pass judgment according to to principles governing property and ownership. They are known as the Grey Goose Laws, so called because of the quill that was used to pen them. Iceland's territory is divided up into four quarters or farthings, each with its own regional assembly or thing. Within each quarter are local representatives known as godar, a word derived from pagan priest or godman who can act as deputies for the local farmsteaders. There is even a system of hrepur and embryonic social services, a means of welfare for the hard hit professor Steffen Brink,
Professor Steffen Brink
Iceland was a unique political construction, a realm with no king. The major thing assembly was the Althingi at Thingvellir, where men assembled once a year at midsummer. So it was a beautiful kind of picture organization of a hierarchy with the Althingi at the top and then we had the quarters with their thing and the gold ordered with their thing.
Jack Myers
And this was a remarkable contribution to the history of Western civilization. They established the first parliament ever in Europe and it lasted for a thousand years.
Tim Spangler
And if it all sounds too good to be true, way too utopian, certainly for the early medieval world, then it probably is because Iceland is about to have all those old world problems rebound upon it.
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Tim Spangler
Floki does return to Iceland a few years later by the way. He sails back and settles in the island's north, on the Skerfjrfairfjord. But even by then, he will have noticed that Iceland is beginning to change, its opportunities becoming increasingly limited. The once abundant farmable land is now a scarce resource. New arrivals are left to scramble in the rocks for any ground vaguely worthy of tender.
Jack Myers
And the remarkable thing is that once Iceland was discovered around 870, it filled up immediately. Within 100 years, there were no new lands, no lands available for new settlers.
Tim Spangler
The Old Thing is fast becoming an arbiter for old turf wars. Disputes over land that bedeviled coastal Norway are now being replayed on this rocky refuge in the North Atlantic, Iceland is a victim of its own success. And there are those Norwegian royals again, covetous of Iceland's riches, eager to enfold this heathen outpost into the bosom of Christendom.
Jack Myers
An entirely different system of government evolved there in a remarkable way, because of the independence of the people who arrived there and were fighting desperately to keep the kings from asserting control over their lives. And ultimately, not too successful.
Tim Spangler
In the end, in 1262, rule will revert to the Norwegian crown. The Old Thing's full legislative power won't be restored until 1904. In the early days, Iceland had been resistant to Christianity, not to say that there weren't devotees among its immigrant population. Ord the deepminded was herself said to be a convert. Though the extent of a faith has possibly been exaggerated in retrospect, as Norse history was refashioned, viewed through a Christian lens, it was not until the 980s that the new religion began to make serious inroads. Till then, Icelanders had traditionally given missionaries short shrift. They had viewed the monks and their ways as some somehow soft, unmanly, incompatible with Norse warrior ethos.
Dr. Pragya Vora
Iceland sees conversion attempts by missionaries, most of which, the saga records tell us, were rebuffed, sometimes quite brutally, culminating in the murders of these evangelizing missionaries.
Tim Spangler
It will take 70 years from the the all things inception for the speaker to pronounce Iceland an officially Christian nation. Significantly, this happens in the year 1000, prompted in part by a millennial fatalism, a sense that the world is about to end. This mood is boosted by the vast changes in Iceland's ecology that are taking place. The depletion of natural resources, the old gods not providing as they used to. When Ingolfur Arnoldsson had founded Reykjavik, Iceland's only native land mammal was the arctic fox. Now the introduction of cattle, sheep, goats, horses and deer is rapidly destroying the grassland. The reliance on dairy farming has Taken its toll, workable land. Initially three quarters of the island is fast on trail to becoming just the fifth that remains today. At sea, meanwhile, local warriors where their prized tusks have been hunted to extinction. The cod and salmon are being overfished. Most significantly, the forests, once so plentiful, are chopped down to such an extent that Iceland's soil becomes eroded. It is fast on the road to becoming barren, devoid of trees altogether, just as it exists today, the main source of timber, now driftwood. It only increases the tensions as neighbor begins to turn upon neighbourhood. In 982, a tall, auburn haired Norwegian will emerge from the far northwestern settlement of Horn Strandish. He had been brought to Iceland as a child by his father, who, like Ingolfver Arnoldsson before him, had been exiled from Norway for manslaughter. Aged 32, along with his wife and four children, the man relocates to a farm in Herkadalu. Further south, a valley full of steaming thermal pools and spectacular spurting geysers. Just like his father, he is soon heading for trouble when the man's thralls cause a landslide, damaging a neighbor's property. A dispute breaks out. It involves the neighborhood neighbor, the delightfully named a of the foul killing, the offending thralls, and the man taking brutal retaliation. Moving again, he's soon in dispute with an old friend. An argument breaks out over the ownership of a cow and some wooden boards that are to be used in construction of a new longhouse. Foregoing the niceties of the grid Goose laws, the man settles matters in the only way he knows how, killing his old pal and his sons. This time he is hauled before the Bredar Fjord thing.
Professor Steffen Brink
The Grau Gauss. The Grey Goose has rules that regulate the Icelandic society. For example, how to deal with feuds. If you kill someone, the law states that you should publicly acknowledge. Shortly after the act was done, this was considered a vague manslaughter and that was solved by arbitration and settlement and a compensation was to be paid. A concealed killing, or one which was not publically announced, was considered a Mord murder. And that was a shameful act that brought disgrace to the perpetrator and especially to his family. He lost his property and was outlawed for three years from Iceland.
Tim Spangler
Condemned and unable to return to Norway either. It will force this man onto the high seas. According to the land Namabok, his name is Eric Thorvaldsen, though he is better known to all as Eric the Red. We will come to his adventures in a future episode, for it is Eric the Red who is about to write a brand new chapter in the Viking Age of Discovery. In the next episode, Bjorn Ironside leads a Viking fleet into the Mediterranean, intent on sacking Rome. Eastern Vikings, meanwhile, mount an audacious attack on Constantinople. The Byzantine Emperor establishes a Varangian guard made up of a elite Norse warriors. From Spain to Persia, the legend of the Vikings is spreading. That's next time. You can listen to the next two episodes of Real Vikings right now without waiting and without ads by joining Noizr plus. Click the banner at the top of the feed or head to noiser.com subscriptions to find out more.
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Host: Iain Glen (Noiser)
Date: April 6, 2026
In this immersive episode, Iain Glen and a panel of experts trace the Norse journey into the North Atlantic and the founding of Iceland, charting how the Vikings’ fearsome reputation gave way to settlement, innovation, and even proto-democracy. Through vivid storytelling, historical reconstruction, and expert interviews, the episode explores the transformation of Viking society from raiders to settlers, the mythology and realities behind the Icelandic sagas, and the roots of Iceland's unique society and government.
“The story of the expansion across the North Atlantic was a totally different ballgame. ... It was not just a time of carnage and pillaging ... but a very real story about people and their families and their lives.”
“Their name literally means sheep islands. It's a good place, too, to build up supplies of a handy non-perishable foodstuff, salted cod.” (Tim Spangler, 10:35)
“It's taught to them through the lens of their old stories and their old gods and myths.”
“About 75-80% of the Y chromosome ... in Iceland are comparable to Scandinavians. ... Only about 40% of the mitochondrial DNA ... is Scandinavian ... You have more than 50% of the women coming from the British Isles.”
"Just when you think you have a handle on what's going on, suddenly a dragon pops up, and you're just not quite sure where you are." (Barraclough, 37:01)
“Take away the women, you take away their weaving, you take away their ... cloth. ... You end up with some naked men sitting in a rowing boat.” (Dr. Eleanor Barraclough, 39:02)
“Iceland was a unique political construction, a realm with no king... a beautiful kind of picture organization.” (Professor Steffen Brink, 44:56)
“Once Iceland was discovered around 870, it filled up immediately. Within 100 years, there were no new lands ... for new settlers.” (Jack Myers, 47:33)
“The reliance on dairy farming has taken its toll ... forests, once so plentiful, are chopped down ... becoming barren.” (Tim Spangler, 50:19-51:34)
On Settlement vs Raiding
“As these guys crossed the North Atlantic, they were not really Vikings at all.”
— William Fitzhugh, 08:53
On Norse Navigation
“They were masters at looking at the signs, following the waves, the winds, the birds, the animals... They did not have any navigational instruments.”
— Jack Myers, 26:36
On Icelandic Sagas
“They really do inhabit that hazy borderline between what we would think of as fact and what we would think of as fiction.”
— Dr. Eleanor Barraclough, 37:01
On Women’s Central Role
“You take away the women, you take away their weaving, ... you take away the sails of the Viking ships, you take away their clothes. You know, you end up with some naked men sitting in a rowing boat.”
— Dr. Eleanor Barraclough, 39:02
On Political Innovation
“They established the first parliament ever in Europe and it lasted for a thousand years.”
— Jack Myers, 45:26
| Timestamp | Topic/Quote/Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:36 | Dramatic recreation: Floki’s voyage and the founding of Iceland | | 08:53 | Fitzhugh on Vikings as settlers and families | | 09:29-10:21| Settlement of Orkney and Shetland | | 10:35 | Jack Myers on Viking ship technology for migration | | 12:13 | Tim Spangler on Faroes as exodus stepping stone | | 13:49 | The impact of Christianity and state formation in Scandinavia | | 16:26 | The Harald Fairhair myth and Norwegian centralization | | 22:33 | Zori on Iceland as a response to Norwegian state-building | | 24:36 | The three phases of island settlement (discovery, exploration, settlement) | | 33:20 | Zori on Icelandic DNA and Celtic roots | | 35:24 | Old Norse vs. Old English / Icelandic language continuity | | 37:01 | Barraclough on the saga tradition (fact vs. fiction) | | 39:02 | Barraclough and Myers on women as economic engines | | 41:03 | The Althing and Icelandic proto-democracy | | 44:56 | Steffen Brink on Iceland as a realm without a king | | 47:33 | Overpopulation and land scarcity | | 50:19-51:34| Environmental decline and societal repercussions | | 54:03 | Icelandic law: the Grey Goose Laws and feuds | | 54:55 | The rise of Erik the Red and the next phase of Viking exploration |
Episode Reflection:
“Land of Fire and Ice” deftly synthesizes saga and science, narrative and analysis. The Viking journey to Iceland unfolds as a grand experiment—part exodus, part pioneering, part accidental—but also an allegory of adaptation, resilience, and unintended consequence. Iceland becomes a Norse laboratory for democracy and myth, a repository of the old ways, and, eventually, a springboard for far more ambitious journeys.
Final Note:
The closing moments set up the next episode, where the Viking drive for discovery will push further still, with Erik the Red’s legendary expeditions to Greenland and beyond.