This Chiropractor Predicted My Lab Results Without Bloodwork | Dr. Charlie Fagenholz

Summary

Realfoodology Podcast with Courtney Swan

Episode: This Chiropractor Predicted My Lab Results Without Bloodwork
Guest: Dr. Charlie Fagenholz
Date: August 19, 2025

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Overview

In this engaging episode, host Courtney Swan sits down with Dr. Charlie Fagenholz to discuss the world of chiropractic care, muscle testing, and “functional frequency medicine.” Dr. Charlie demonstrates a live frequency medicine session on Courtney, astonishing her by uncovering health issues that match her recent lab results—all without prior knowledge or traditional bloodwork. The conversation dives into the oft-misunderstood world of muscle testing, the basics and importance of frequency medicine, the misunderstood role of the gallbladder, the significance of emotional trauma, the impact of EMFs, and the future of light and laser therapy in health. Throughout, both guest and host provide authentic anecdotes, actionable advice, and challenge mainstream medical misconceptions with a holistic and bioenergetic approach.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dr. Charlie’s Journey to Frequency Medicine

• [06:44–09:35] Dr. Charlie’s Background:
  • Intended to go to pharmacy school but found it unfulfilling; became fascinated with chiropractic after shadowing a practitioner:
    “People walked in, they felt crummy, they left feeling good, and that was all I went off of.” (06:44)
  • Introduced to muscle testing and frequency medicine during chiropractic school; a student performed muscle testing and revealed accurate health issues:
    “This kid’s 23 years old... told me my whole life story for the first like 23 years in like two minutes.” (08:38)
  • This experience sparked his passion for frequency medicine.

2. Understanding Muscle Testing & Frequency Medicine

• [09:35–16:09] Skepticism and Explanation:

  • Courtney discusses her introduction to muscle testing and addresses online skepticism about muscle testing and chiropractic care.
  • Dr. Charlie contextualizes historical skepticism (Flexner Report, AMA opposition, Rockefeller's influence), but emphasizes the rigorous training chiropractors undergo.
  • On frequency medicine:
    “What I say in a nutshell is it is a neurological tool that you’re testing the adaptability of the nervous system. The goal... is to find the roadblocks that you’re not adapting to and find the best way possible to make your body adaptable. And those are the people who thrive.” (14:20, also repeated at [00:02])

• [13:07–16:09] Explaining Frequency Medicine Vials:

  • The vials used in frequency medicine are homeopathically prepared to test how the body adapts to specific frequencies (e.g., mold, glyphosate, parasites).
  • Dr. Charlie clarifies that weakening to a vial during muscle testing means the body isn’t adapting to that frequency—and that it’s not a diagnosis, but a starting point for support.

3. Live Demonstration: Frequency Medicine in Action

• [19:50–25:28] Live Testing Segment:

  • Dr. Charlie demonstrates muscle testing with Courtney, using vials representing mold, protozoa, and glyphosate.
  • Courtney’s muscle response matched her recent lab results (high mold, high glyphosate)—which Dr. Charlie was unaware of.
  • Notable Moment:
    Courtney: “My glyphosate levels are really high right now... this is actually really fascinating and it’s cool to see this in real time, and I love that I have the testing on that.” (24:43)

• [22:28–23:49] Prioritizing Treatment:

  • Dr. Charlie demonstrates how muscle testing can help prioritize which health issue to address first (e.g., glyphosate vs. mold), rather than treating everything at once.
  • “The right thing at the right time is the miracle. The right thing at the wrong time is still the wrong thing.” (22:28)

4. Emotional Trauma and Physical Health

• [27:06–34:32] The Impact of Emotional Trauma:

  • Courtney shares her personal experience with childhood trauma and how emotional healing complemented her dietary efforts.
  • Dr. Charlie discusses the science and tools for emotional release—emphasizing that emotions live in our tissues, affecting physiology and health outcomes.
  • “Releasing emotional trauma from the physiology, I think, is more important than absolutely everything.” (29:32)
  • Different release techniques: NET, QNRT, EFT, body code, emotion code, etc.

• Dr. Charlie elaborates that patients with the most unprocessed emotional trauma often experience the most symptoms, regardless of similar physical toxicities as asymptomatic patients.

5. The Power of Light & Laser Therapy

• [37:18–44:58] Light & Laser as Medicine:

  • Dr. Charlie introduces red/infrared/violet laser therapy tools for supporting healing at the cellular level.
  • Advocates that the future of medicine lies in harmonizing cellular frequencies through light:
    “At the end of the day, we are literally just harmonizing the frequencies of your cells. And the better we can do that, that’s when you thrive. And if you don’t, you’re in a disease state.” (41:26)
  • Courtney shares her experience with an infrared bed and its effects on energy and recovery.
  • Discussion of circadian rhythm: importance of sleeping in darkness and morning sunlight for hormonal regulation and metabolic health.

• “I think that our environment is more of a cause of diabetes than our diet.” (42:42)

  • Environmental toxins and EMFs may play a larger role in chronic disease than traditionally believed.

6. Gallbladder—The Underrated Organ

• [44:58–48:43] The Most Missed Organ:
  • Dr. Charlie: “The gallbladder is the most missed organ in medicine.” (45:21)
  • Explains its vital role in bile production, fat digestion, and microbial defense.
  • Cautions against unnecessary removal; removing it addresses symptoms, not root causes.
  • For those without a gallbladder, recommends digestive enzymes (ox bile, TUDCA) to support fat digestion, and emphasizes finding and addressing root causes of bile dysregulation (often environmental or pathogenic).

7. Inflammation, Gut Health, and Preparation for Conception

• [49:29–50:15] Optimizing Before Pregnancy:
  • Dr. Charlie recommends gut, liver, and gallbladder cleansing for both partners before conception to reduce inflammation.
  • For elevated CRP (inflammation), suggests looking for hidden food sensitivities, infections, or toxins.

8. EMFs: Risks and Realities

• [51:17–56:37] EMFs and Modern Health:
  • Clarifies that EMF (electromagnetic fields) are misunderstood; while the sun and human bodies generate beneficial EMFs, man-made sources (WiFi, cell towers, etc.) bombard our biology at unnatural frequencies, disrupting health.
  • Dr. Charlie is vigilant in his personal life—unplugging WiFi, using EMF-mitigating devices, and even abandoning home purchases in high-EMF areas.
  • “Your immune system follows your emotions... the mental stress of [EMFs] may be worse than the actual effects.” (54:23, 55:50)
  • Both agree to control what’s controllable and avoid living in a “mental prison” of health anxiety.

9. Practical Advice: Keep Health Simple and Prioritize Basics

• [63:13–64:06] Back to Basics:

  • Dr. Charlie reinforces that the most complicated cases often require the most foundational approaches.
  • “The harder their case is, the more you have to get back to the basics.” (63:13)
  • Sleep, sunlight, nutritious food, hydration, time outdoors, and stress management remain paramount.

• Health doesn’t have to be expensive or complicated—focus on simple, whole foods and lifestyle basics.

10. The Universal Impact of Emotional Trauma

• [65:01–66:20] Everyone Has Emotional Trauma:
  • Trauma is relative; a child being grounded can be stored as emotional trauma just as much as severe events.
  • “I call emotions email threads. You have the current email and the original, and everything that reminds you of that just builds over your lifetime until you’re able to release it with a physiological correction.” (65:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [14:20/00:02] Dr. Charlie:
  “It is a neurological tool that you’re testing the adaptability of the nervous system. The goal of this is to find the roadblocks that you’re not adapting to and find the best way possible to make your body adaptable. And those are the people who thrive.”

• [22:28] Dr. Charlie:
  “The right thing at the right time is the miracle. The right thing at the wrong time is still the wrong thing.”

• [29:32] Dr. Charlie:
  “Releasing emotional trauma from the physiology, I think is more important than absolutely everything.”

• [41:26] Dr. Charlie:
  “At the end of the day, we are literally just harmonizing the frequencies of your cells. And the better we can do that, that’s when you thrive. And if you don’t, you’re in a disease state.”

• [42:42] Dr. Charlie:
  “I don’t know for sure if our diet is the number one cause of diabetes... I think that it is pesticides like glyphosate and EMF and environmental toxicity that is raising our cortisol constantly.”

• [45:21] Dr. Charlie:
  “I say that [the gallbladder] is the most missed organ in medicine.”

• [54:23, 55:50] Dr. Charlie:
  “Is the mental stress of it (EMFs) worse than the actual effects?... Your immune system follows your emotions.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 06:44 – Dr. Charlie’s career story: from pharmacy to frequency medicine
• 09:35 – Courtney recounts her muscle testing experience; addressing skepticism
• 14:20 – Dr. Charlie’s concise definition of frequency medicine
• 19:50 – Start of live muscle testing/frequency medicine demonstration
• 22:28 – Prioritizing treatment with muscle testing
• 27:06 – Emotional trauma’s impact on health; emotional release tools
• 37:18 – Light/laser therapy; future of medicine
• 42:42 – Environmental toxicity and diabetes causality
• 45:21 – The vital role of the gallbladder
• 49:29 – Recommendations before conception; addressing inflammation
• 51:17 – EMFs: health impact, mitigation, lifestyle adjustments
• 63:13 – The value of basic health habits
• 65:54 – Everyone has emotional trauma, no matter how “big” or “small”

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Resources & Where to Find Dr. Charlie

• Instagram: @DrCharlieDC
• Website: drcharliedc.com (includes digital library, membership, resources PDF for practitioners)
• PDF Directory: List of Dr. Charlie’s trusted practitioners by state (found on his Instagram highlights)

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Final Takeaways

• Frequency medicine and muscle testing offer innovative paths to individualized care by reading the body’s adaptability to different stressors.
• Emotional trauma is a root contributor to chronic health problems; its physical release is essential.
• Light and energy therapies represent an emerging frontier in medicine, with promising impacts on cellular health and resilience.
• Simplicity is key: basic lifestyle habits (sleep, real food, nature, community) drive the most sustainable health.
• Health anxiety can itself be toxic—focus on controlling the controllables and avoid the trap of perfectionism.

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This summary distills the core content, key insights, and practical tips from the original episode, maintaining the warm, honest, and holistic tone of Courtney and Dr. Charlie’s conversation.

Transcript

[A]

On today's episode of the Real Foodology.

[B]

Podcast, what I say in a nutshell is it is a neurological tool that you're testing the adaptability of the nervous system. And the goal of this is to find the roadblocks that you're not adapting to and find the best way possible to make your body adaptable. And those are the people who thrive.

[A]

Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Real Foodology Podcast. As always, I'm your host, Courtney Swan. And today's episode, I sat down with Dr. Charlie. You may recognize him from Instagram, Graham. He is a chiropractic doctor. There seems to be in some pockets of the Internet this negativity towards chiropractors. So I just wanted to address that head on with him. He is an amazing doctor. He practices something called frequency medicine. And what's really fun and cool about this episode is he does a little frequency medicine on me so you can watch and listen while he does this to me on camera. It was so freaking cool. And what was mind blowing to me was I didn't tell him anything ahead of time about the labs and everything that I've gotten done recently to show that I'm dealing with certain things. And it actually came up on his test, which was really, really wild. We talk a lot about red light therapy. We address EMFs. We also talk about how gallbladders are really misunderstood in the medical community and why actually gallbladders are really important. This is such a great episode. I really, really enjoyed it. If you could take a moment to rate and review the podcast, please. I know I say this every week, but it really does help the show. It means a lot. So thank you so much. Thank you for tagging me on Instagram. I see almost all of them. I try to get back to all of your messages. If you're loving this episode and you want to post about it on Instagram, tag me at Real Foodology and also tag at Dr. Charl. And he gives his tag at the very end. So stay for the end of the episode to learn about where you can follow him. Thank you guys so much for your time. I have had a wild year. I have been traveling non stop. I feel like I've been on a plane every single week and I thankfully have not gotten sick in a while. And I think there's two reasons for that. 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And even if you're eating healthy, one thing that contributes to it is undigested foods sitting in your gut for too long. And that often comes down to not having enough digestive enzymes. Your enzyme production can slow down for a lot of reasons, like aging, constant stress, antiacids, or a diet low in fiber and high in refined carbs. Without enough enzymes, your body struggles to break down food. That leftover food irritates the gut lining and puts more pressure on your system. That's why I take mass zymes, which are a full spectrum digestive enzyme blend. It helps break food down more completely so your gut isn't under constant stress, and it supports gut barrier health over time. If every meal leaves you bloated and uncomfortable, mass times could be the simple fix that your gut has been waiting for. If you would like to try them today, go to bioptimizers.com real foodology and use promo code Real Foodology and you will save 15% off. And while you're there, also get some of my other favorite products. They have something for gluten. If you have any issues with eating gluten, you can take this and it can help you digest the gluten better. There's also Magnesium Breakthrough, which is another product that I love. So make sure that you go to bioptimizers.com real foodology and use promo code Real Foodology. They even offer a full 365 day guarantee. There's zero risk to try it. And if you subscribe, not only will you get amazing discounts and free gifts, you will make sure your monthly supply is guaranteed. Again, bioptimizers.com realfoodology Dr. Charlie, thank you so much for coming on today. This has been a long time coming.

[B]

Yes. Two years.

[A]

Yes. Well, in fact, I think I even found you. I was trying to think about this earlier. I think I found your account during COVID and then we started chatting and I've been trying to get you on the podcast forever, so I'm so happy that we finally made.

[B]

Yeah, I'm glad we made it happen for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Thanks for coming to Austin to record this. So right before we started recording, you were showing me these vials and you were kind of talking to me about something called frequency medicine, which is something I've Never heard of before. I'm not versed in this at all. So somebody who is just hearing about this for the first time, how would you explain that?

[B]

Like an elevator speech.

[A]

Yeah, but you have plenty of time. You don't need to do an elevator pitch.

[B]

Honestly, I think just starting kind of with my story is a good way of kind of getting into frequency medicine. And I went to chiropractic school. I wasn't intending to go to chiral school. I was going to go to pharmacy school, did job shadowing, and knew I wasn't going to be a pharmacist in, like, five minutes. Just a terrible, boring job. If any pharmacists are listening, I'm sorry, but it is what it is. And I went to shadow my chiropractor in high school and. Or when I was a freshman in college, first doctor who people walked in, they felt crummy, they left feeling good, and that was all I went off of. I'm like, I can do that the rest of my life. And so fast forward, go to chiropractic school. And a year in, I meet this student who was a year ahead of me, and he had been practicing functional frequency medicine, and really frequency medicine, but I kind of term it now functional frequency medicine. And why I do that is because, I mean, you're very, you know, well versed in functional medicine is like, the question asking, right? Like, people go in, they feel crummy, their blood work looks great, but because they're compared to the sick, of the sick, of course their blood's gonna look decent. And functional medicine asks a better question of what's optimal for that person. And so they ask really good questions. And it really resonated with that. But it wasn't until I really experienced a frequency medicine treatment that I was like, I've chilled. When I say it, I'm like, okay, that's. That's a different experience. What I mean by that was this student was like, hey, do you want to learn this muscle testing and frequency medicine that I'm doing? And at the time, I was like, no, I just want to be a good adjuster. I want to be a chiropractor. Like, that's what I'm going to school for, obviously. He's like, well, do you mind if I treat you? And I'm like, all right, go ahead. And at the time, this kid's 23 years old, right? Like, in school still, and he does a couple muscle tests. He's testing all different muscles. And he, like, told me my whole life story. For the first, like, 23 years of my life in, like, two minutes.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I'm like, how do you know that? What was that?

[A]

Are you a psychic?

[B]

He's like. He's like, you have no stomach acid. And I was like, well, I've been on proton pump inhibitors for four years. He's like, have you ever had a really bad headache? I'm like, yeah, I had a migraine when I was in middle school for three weeks, and no one could figure it out. He's like, have you ever had a really bad viral infection? I was like, yeah, I had mono. I was in the hospital again for 10 days with mono.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

He's like, all this is still, like, in your body, essentially. And what it was was that I still had the, like, the electronic signatures of it in my cells. And muscle testing is a one way of frequency medicine to tap into the nervous system and cellular frequencies. And, like, I mean, I've been to mds. I've been all these different doctors, and this student, in two minutes told me, like, everything that was going on with me, and that's still affecting me. And that, like, opened my mind to, like, a whole world. So that was 2012. Yeah.

[A]

That's amazing. So I was first introduced to muscle testing when I was in high school because my mom. My mom's the whole reason that I am the way that I am and know everything and got into all this because I was very lucky to have a mom that was very tuned into health, and she was, you know, making everything from scratch. She was taking me to a chiropractor when I was a kid, and they did muscle testing on me. And I remember this. This is how I figured out I had a gluten allergy and a couple of other things. And it was true to me. The muscle testing did actually tell me things that really didn't work for me. Well, then I remember, and I'm asking you this because I really am curious to know how you combat this kind of stuff. I see online when people talk now about muscle testing or even about chiropractors, sometimes there's this negativity online, too, where people say, like, oh, they're not real doctors, or they don't know what they're doing. And I'm asking this. I believe in it, But I'm curious what you say to those type of people, because sometimes I don't even know how to respond to them because I'm like, wait, no, but I've done it, and I know it works.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So which part? The Muscle testing. I think chiropractic.

[A]

I think both. Can you address both?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Well, chiropractic has been, you know, looked down upon since Rockefeller essentially came in, wanted to monopolize the chemical industry.

[A]

And the Flexner Report.

[B]

Flexner report. Andrew Flexner. And so it starts with that where like homeopaths, acupuncturists, chiropractors, because the original chiropractors were medical doctors. You know, D.D. palmer, who started chiropractic in the late 1800s, they wanted him to become a medical doctor. And he said, I don't think you guys are going in the right direction. And so his first class of graduating chiropractors were medical doctors. And so. And then, you know, the whole, I think it was what Johns Hopkins School is where Flexner did all this stuff. And, and then that kind of wiped away all the holistic medicine and whoever was pushing pharmaceutical drugs got funding money for their schools. And, you know, people can really read up on that. Yeah, so that kind of started it. And then the AMA really went after chiropractic in the 80s and it went to court and all this stuff. And chiropractic, wonderful. Oh, really? 80s and so.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know that. That's good to know.

[B]

Yeah. And so a lot of, if you look at the schooling of chiropractic, like how many hours they take of anatomy and biochemistry, like, it just trumps medical school. Like medical school. Medical school gets like barely anything compared to what Cairos do, especially in neurology and, and stuff. They get way more pharmaceutical studies, obviously, and that's what they're really trained to do. But the one thing I will say, and I always say this, is that just because someone's a chiropractor does not mean that they're a great doctor.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But same thing with medical doctors and dentists and everything else. Like, just because you have the degree, you know, there's definitely levels to it, so to speak. And there's people who are really, really good and people who are mediocre and not so good. So it's not like, hey, if I just go down the street to my chiropractor, they're going to save my life and be the best doctor for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, a lot of people are. It's kind of doing an unfair expectation of like, okay, well I'm going to try this one chiropractor. If that chiropractor is not it, then all chiropractic sucks.

[A]

I totally agree. And I think that's where we get into Trouble with all this is that, yeah, maybe somebody has one bad experience and then they're like, it's all of them.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which is horrible because I've had some of the most amazing experiences ever with chiropractors. Truly by far. Like they have found things that nobody else has ever found before. And so it bums me out when I see that negativity online, which is why I brought it up and wanted to address it. Because I want people to hear it from you. Because I've had some of the most amazing experiences ever with them, 100% by far. So. Okay, that's amazing. So let's talk about this frequency medicine. I want to go over this. These little vials you have.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get it, we'll get it going.

[A]

Okay, so can you tell me about it?

[B]

Yeah. So I think it's, it's fair to say that there's many different forms of frequency medicine. You know, someone who's watching this might do something like a quest for scan that takes your fingernails, your. Your saliva and your hair, runs it through a machine and then that picks up frequencies from your cells. Right. That's one way of practicing frequency medicine. The way that I do it is muscle testing, which is what we'll. I mean even like EKGs and stuff like that is measuring frequencies of the body. And so there's many different ways of practicing it. There's people who use lasers and technically that's frequency medicine and light therapy is frequency medicine. So it's a, it's an umbrella term. But the one that I really talk about the most or utilize the most is muscle testing. And the reason why is as you're familiar is because it takes out the guesswork and you're having a conversation with the nervous system and everyone's like, well, it's energy work. It's the devil's work. It's this. I'm like, dude, you guys are taking this way too serious.

[A]

Yes. You know, like, it's no secret that we're energetic beings. It's not even like, that's just a fact. I can't even fight that.

[B]

As soon as sperm and egg touch, there is an explosion of light. If you look at under a microscope.

[A]

That's so cool.

[B]

Yeah. So it's all. Every light is frequency and energy. It's all like similar. It's all the same thing.

[A]

Our cells run on energy. It's all of it.

[B]

100.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so for people who are like, it's. It's too woo woo for me. Like what's going on. What I say in a nutshell is it is a neurological tool that you're testing the adaptability of the nervous system. And the goal of this is to find the roadblocks that you're not adapting to and find the best way possible to make your body adaptable. And those are the people who thrive.

[A]

Awesome. Okay, can we show people how it works?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can we do it?

[B]

Yeah. So I brought some. I have thousands of vials, but this is a very easy one to. To travel with. As we were saying, it looks like an old Blockbuster video. Yeah, it tastes. It does.

[A]

That's exactly what I thought when I first saw you bring it in.

[B]

Yeah. So let's see how the camera can see. They look like little perfume testers. Right. Basically what it is is there's water in there and they're. These are homeopathically prepared to whatever frequency you're trying to test. So, like this one right here is protozoa, which is parasite. This green one is glyphosate one. One of your favorites.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And this one is mold fungal toxins.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so you can do other tests, right? You can do stool samples, you can do hair test analysis, you can do urine samples. And those are all valid. They're all good. Now one thing I will say is with vial testing, it is can the body adapt or not? It's not something that I will say to someone like, hey, you have parasites because you weakened on this parasite vial. What I will say is there's a chance you're not can't adapt to this frequency and we're going to find what makes you more adaptable. Some people will take that as, hey, I have parasites, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm okay with it. But for legal purposes, I just say you're. You're. You are indicating that you can't adapt to this frequency. Let's make you adapt. We'll see what changes in your health.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

So that's how I explain it. But you've been muscle tested.

[A]

I have, yeah.

[B]

I don't know the best way to do this with the.

[A]

I know here I'll come to you because I feel like I can just move this like this.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, you can let me have your arm, though, first. Okay. So turn this way and just meet my pressure. I'm just gonna push down, you're gonna push up. So it's not a strength contest. I'm just gonna explain it like you're a patient. Yeah, not a strength contest. It is an adaptability contest. So you meet my pressure. There's a good muscle lock. So hold strong. Just like that. Perfect. So one way to see if someone's testable is you touch right between the eyebrows. So go ahead with your right hand touching between your eyebrows right there. And then resist me. And you won't be able to. There's no lock. So take it away. Oh, yeah, hold strong. That's a good lock. And then do that. Yeah, hold. And all that does is it shuts down the electricity of your body. I don't know 100 why that works, but it does. It's taught universally in muscle testing. And so that's just letting me know that your nervous system is testable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So if you were coming in, you're like, hey, I have these symptoms. I would start in my head putting together a story of maybe it is mold. Maybe they're around pesticide spraying. Maybe they have parasites. Maybe it's a food sensitivity, you know? And I would get some vials. Like, for instance. Let's go. Let's go with mold vial. And just take this.

[A]

Okay. And just hold it like that and.

[B]

Just hold up to your heart, if you would, and then hold strong so you weaken to that, which means you're not adapting to mold well.

[A]

And I can. I can tell you from my doctor that I got lab work back, and I Have high mold right now that I'm dealing with. So that makes sense.

[B]

So put that one there and hold strong. And that one you're pretty adaptable to. So that's protozoa. So that's tiny little parasites.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then.

[A]

Oh, man, I'm worried about this one.

[B]

Hold on. Yeah, no bueno.

[A]

And my glyphosate levels are really high right now. So since I moved to Colorado, we're trying to figure it out. It's very bizarre.

[B]

So here. Here's the cool part about frequency medicine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is the difference between that and functional medicine. So you did the testing, and it said that your mold is high and.

[A]

My glyphosate is high. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. I didn't know that you said a little bit about mold prior, but I didn't know that you did testing on that of glyphosate. So that's. That's the cool part of muscle testing. It's just. You're just asking the nervous system, are they adapting? Are they not? Now, in functional medicine, which I've studied a ton of off of the blood work or the urine sample or the stool sample, it just tells you if it's high or it's. It's in range, doesn't tell you what's priority and where to start. And so with muscle testing, you can ask the body, where are we starting? Do we do the mold, which then will. This is the thought process I'm gonna take people through. So do we do mold, which then will take the stress off the liver? Now, the liver can more efficiently process glyphosate instead of going after high glyphosate and high mold. And so a lot of times, the right thing at the right time is the miracle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the right thing at the wrong time is still the wrong thing.

[A]

So how do we figure that out? Can we do that?

[B]

There's multiple ways of doing it. Okay, so let's see. This is tough. With a microphone right here. I'm gonna push this forward.

[A]

No, you can push it forward. Yeah, I think you're fine. Just move towards it, and we should be good.

[B]

So hold strong.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is gonna be a fun episode for your viewers.

[A]

I know this is. So I love to do real stuff like this so they can see how it works.

[B]

So that's mold. Okay. So put it up to your. Your chest. Hold strong, and I do that just to bring it back to neurological awareness.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. And now let me have that. We're gonna switch and go to glyphosate just so Your body's like, okay, now I have the frequencies. Because in two minutes, you'll lose the frequencies and it won't. Muscle test. Right?

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

So now I want you to put your pinky like that.

[A]

If you can do it like this.

[B]

You can do that. Actually do. Yeah, do pinky straight down like this.

[A]

Like this.

[B]

Okay. Hold strong.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. You can relax that for a second. Now go back and test this one.

[A]

Okay. On my heart again.

[B]

And hold strong. Okay. That one was weak a second ago, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And hold this one.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Glyphosate is more of a priority for you.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So this is called a hand mode. I've actually never on podcast, never showed any of this stuff. This is going to be. This is either really great, or people can be like, he's nuts.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

But hand modes.

[A]

Well, because I can back this up, by the way, with this study or with the labs that I have, but continue.

[B]

Yeah. So if you were a patient of mine, we'd be going after glyphosate, which would take stress off the body and then allow you to fight mold off more efficiently. And, you know, all these toxins, emf, pesticides, and all that really accelerate mold and fungal growth. So for you, it. That's how it worked out. But maybe for someone else, mold may have been the priority, and you have to start there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so that's a way of you of asking instead of doing it all at once, like, hey, what's. Where do we start?

[A]

Prioritize.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Okay. This is fascinating also for the listeners, just so they know where we were at before this. We just met in person, like, 10 minutes ago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you actually didn't know that I got lab testing done because we basically sat down and, like, started this episode. You were, like, showing me your vials, and I said, oh, my God, let's do this on the podcast.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Just so people know. So this wasn't something where I told him before, and, you know, this whole thing, like, you had no idea what's going on, and you haven't seen my labs because you're not treating me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm seeing a different doctor. So this is actually really fascinating, and it's cool to see this in real time, and I love that I have the testing on that. So what's interesting is you said something that my doctor had told me recently. Recently. And so I've actually been seeing two different doctors, and my first doctor was really wanting to focus on the glyphosate because she's really concerned about that. And then my second doctor was saying, I think we need to treat the mold. Because what he was saying is he was concerned that the mold is blocking one of my detoxification pathways and causing the glyphosate to build up. Which is essentially what you just said.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

But it seems like maybe I need to be focusing more on the glyphosate right now.

[B]

Yep, that's what your body would say.

[A]

Which is pretty much what I'm doing. I mean, to be honest, I'm doing both in the sense that I'm not drinking coffee anymore, except for king coffee, because that was one of the things that he said is he was like, coffee is notoriously moldy. And I know this, but I love coffee so much. So I've been doing king coffee, just one of those a day. And then I've been doing really high doses of PC from Body Bio to address the glyphosate. And then also I'm starting to do some binders. I've been trying to do the sauna a couple times a week.

[B]

Yeah, Sweating is good.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Yeah, sweating's good for sure.

[A]

Okay. Is there anything else that you would recommend? I know you can't. I mean, you're not a doctor, but just like Glade.

[B]

I like different. Or I'm a big herbal person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so dandelion's really good.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you said that too.

[B]

Yeah, Dandelion's great. Basil's really good. Those are some of the. The. The top, top ones for glyphosate.

[A]

Okay. This is so fascinating. I'm glad that we did that.

[B]

And that's just like. That's the tip of the iceberg. That's a very easy demo to do. But, like, if someone was a patient of mine and I have thousands of these vials, and I start going in, and we're checking in. If there's emotions tied to it, if there is a structural imbalance like chiropractic, where you see what makes them adaptable to the vial. They might have need their neck adjusted, which changes their neurology, which changes their immunology.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And maybe, you know, maybe glyphosate is affecting the liver. The liver's emotions are anger and frustration and aggression and depression and repression and all in galled and all these things. Maybe they experience that in life or maybe it's from childhood, and that's still in their physiology, and now it's weakening their system so that they're not able to process out these toxins efficiently.

[A]

I probably have some of that going on.

[B]

We all do. It's human experience. The human experience.

[A]

Well, actually, let's talk about that a little bit because this is also something I'm super passionate about and I've talked a lot with my audience about. I went through a very, very traumatic experience as a kid. I lost a sibling when I was 8. She was 6. And it was a very, very traumatic situation. It was aw. And so a lot of my 30s, I spent really on this journey of uncovering all of that, unpacking it, trying to heal the grief from that, releasing the grief, addressing a lot of that, going through therapy. There's just been so many. And I've been really honest with my audience about it because I first got into food in my 20s and I largely thought just food, that's it. Diet, that's all you have to manage as long as I had that down. And then I hit my 30s and was like, I'm still a mess. The diet is dialed in, but the anxiety's through the roof. I'm just dealing with all these symptoms because I wasn't addressing the emotional trauma. So can we talk about that from a doctor's perspective?

[B]

Yeah. You know, like you said, therapy and stuff is. Is one piece of the puzzle. But one of the things that really opened my eyes to it was it was frequency medicine of like, you know, how can someone who's muscle testing me find that I had, you know, heartbreak at 10 years old or whatever. It was kind of thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the thing is that your emotions live in your tissues. They live in your cells, they live in your fascia. Candace Pert has a great book called the Molecules of Emotions. And every time you experience a trauma, it secretes a nervous system, peptide, a protein, a neuropeptide they call it. And it's stored in your physiology until you find a tool to break that connection. And then the brain, the fear centers, the amygdala lets go of it. And there's many different ways of doing it. There's neuro emotional technique is one. A lot of times I talk about. There's qnrt, there's EFT tapping, there's body code, there's emotion code. The. The overall theme is that I think everyone should be doing some type of physiological emotional release. And for some people, it replaces talk therapy. Other people, it enhances talk therapy and go hand in hand because there's some people who aren't talkers, and there's some people who really benefit by getting everything off their chest. But one thing's for sure is everyone will benefit from getting it out of their physiology. And I mean, so many people ask me if there's one thing that you would tell people to do for their health, like, what would it be? And over the years, I feel like if you asked me at different points, I'd be like, maybe this, maybe that. But releasing emotional trauma from the physiology, I think is more important than absolutely everything.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Absolutely everything. Because think about, I'll have a patient come in and they'll have. There'll be a wreck. Can't get out of bed, can't socialize, just can't live, basically. And I test them. They have Lyme mold, EMF emotions, you know, like food sensitivities, like all these toxins. And they're an absolute mess. Whereas their spouse or someone else comes in and they have no symptoms, but they show for the exact same toxicity. And I'm like, how can someone who shows for all of these issues come in asymptomatic and be like, I'm fine? And what I found was that the people who had the most emotional trauma were the ones who had the most symptoms by far.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, by far. And so that was like the common denominator of maybe this person just didn't have that much emotional trauma in their life or whatever it was. But that's why I think that's like the most important above all else. And if you would ask me 10 years ago I would have said don't get vaccines and eat clean.

[A]

Yeah, I mean that was. I was there too. And then now I've realized that really in my 30s when I started going down that path of doing and I've done so many things. I've done ketamine therapy, I've done psilocybin journeys. I mean I've gone down. Yeah, I did emdr, I've done tapping, I've done a lot of this kind of stuff. Actually I even did. I did an emotional Release session with Dr. Gonzalez. Do you know Dr. G?

[B]

No, I don't think so.

[A]

Okay, so he talks a lot about this too. And I did one of those with him as well.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I mean, look, I'm. I'm still dealing with some stuff right now, but I. I did see a remarkable difference in how I felt and also, like, my anxiety, too. I was having crazy panic attacks where I was, like, having out of body experiences, and I was able to, like, really get rid of a lot of that kind of stuff.

[B]

I would say, like, it makes you more adaptable to your conscious state. That's what I would say. It's like a good way of saying is it's like you took off a coat you never knew you had on. Like, it's just like a sense of feeling lighter and then that gets you away from reactivity and more like conscious programming of, like, living with intention instead of reactivity.

[A]

So if somebody listening is really curious about this and maybe this is the first time they've ever heard about this, what would be. Maybe a couple of things that you would tell them just to start looking into as far as addressing, like, how.

[B]

To find a practitioner type stuff.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, what to look for, like, what to Google for near them or.

[B]

So it's really tough because, like, functional frequency medicine is some. A term that I made up. So you can't just, like, go to Google and be like, all right, who does functional frequency medicine? In my area, I actually created a PDF that's on Instagram that, like, is by state of people who I know, like, personally.

[A]

Awesome.

[B]

Because one of my main things was to get people into offices of people who practice similar to how I do. And, like, I was never into social media ever. And then all of a sudden, I saw the reach it had, and I was writing, like, a small blog at the time that was getting no reach until I wrote one about vaccines, and then it, like, went everywhere. But one day of doing a Q A on Instagram with someone who had a good following, and I saw, like, people were drowning in information and starving for knowledge.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I was like, okay. So I guess my next purpose in this lifetime is to bring awareness that people like me exist, and it can give you really good health care. And so I went to Instagram and really brought the attention to it. And then I'm trying to get people into offices around the world. So the PDF on Instagram would probably be number one. You know, the. The first muscle testing technique is called applied kinesiology. So. So you can look up applied kinesiology in your area. That's one way. But there's so many techniques that have come from applied kinesiology that, like, there's, there's new and improved ways, in my opinion, and all the old time applied kinesiology docs will say I'm wrong and it's still blah, blah, blah. But to stay up with the times and things need to evolve and it's. There's some great techniques that have come from there that really can give people good healthcare.

[A]

That's awesome. I'm curious if you know, do you know Vanessa Fitzgerald in la V's honey on Instagram. Okay. I'm wondering. She's a friend of mine. I'm gonna text her afterwards. This is kind of a side note, but if you're in la, I think she might be doing similar that you're doing. I know that she does muscle testing and she is like. I mean, she's like a wizard. Like, she is so good at figuring out people's issues and she does a lot of muscle testing and stuff like that.

[B]

I. I don't know if there's a better tool, in my opinion, for medicine than muscle testing. Yeah. I always say, like, even if you are western medicine, ER doc or whatever, you are even to muscle test, what antibiotic is right in that time is such an advantage instead of just blindly throwing what helps the bell curve of people for sure. You know? And so I. Another. I'm big on analogies because people always kind of, you know, understand through analogies or metaphors. And I always say that the body's like a garage door. Muscle testing's like the key code. If you have the right key code, the garage lets you walk right in. And the body's the same way.

[A]

Way. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love analogies too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so I want to talk about, too. You have this little red light gun or. What is this exactly? I don't.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Laser. There we go.

[B]

Yep. So it's. It's a laser. Red near infrared and violet light laser.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All in one.

[A]

And what does it do? What's it for?

[B]

So this is more for treatment. So there's different frequencies programmed in here from infections like parasites, viruses, fungus. You know, there's different conditions in here, like Alzheimer's and neurological conditions. There's nerve pain, there's circulation stuff. There's a whole bunch of stuff programmed in here. And all it does is emit light frequency, electromagnetic frequencies that when it hits your skin, then your brain almost takes the frequencies and supercharges the healing response to whatever frequencies you're trying to heal.

[A]

Oh. So give me an example of, of something that you would try to. That you would use that on for somebody like some. Something they're. They're dealing with that you would use that for.

[B]

So we'll take you for an instance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I found that glyphosate was a priority for you. So then what I would do is I would find what herbs help you with glyphosate, and then I would find what the priority organ is. And then I would find the organ setting in here and light up the organ, so to speak, through the skin and enhance the organ's function to help the protocol go faster. Wow.

[A]

And how often would you do something like that?

[B]

Two to three, three to five minutes. Up to three times a day. Obviously, if patients don't have their own, then I'm just doing it whenever they're in the office with me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm actually with the creator of the frequencies of this right now. In the next two weeks, should have a layperson, one that's like eight times cheaper than this. And they can do it at home. Cool. I'm trying to get all of frequency medicine tools accessible.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so people can use them in their home because it's just. It's too good of stuff not to, you know, shed light on them.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm curious, since that is technically.

[B]

So it's infrared light, red light, there's near infrared and. Or red infrared and then laser.

[A]

So I was at Wastewell yesterday, Brigham's place. Do you know Brigham? Oh, man. All these people. I think you would know.

[B]

So sorry, I'm like, not a. So I am not the stereotypical influencer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where, like, I. I don't know, the community of influencers and stuff. I'm just, like, living my life and with my kids and wife and treating patients and doing my membership and just living.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, that's amazing. But I. All these people I've mentioned are just amazing people in the community. They're doing really cool stuff.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

But anyway, the only reason I brought him up is so I went to his place yesterday. My fiance and I went there and he had this infrared red light bed.

[B]

Yeah. They're great.

[A]

And I laid in that for 10 minutes and I was like, supercharged 100%. I was like. Like, I felt like I'd had like five cups of coffee without the jittery or, like, any of the negative side effects. Like, I just was like, ready to go.

[B]

Yeah. Love it.

[A]

And I'm wondering if that. Is that a similar thing, but it was just on my whole body, basically.

[B]

So this. The only difference is this has violet light and laser in it. Laser is a very specific frequency where red infrared light is a wavelength of frequencies. And so, like, I use red light at home all the time. I have a ton of different red light gadgets. A bed like, that's phenomenal.

[A]

Oh, it was awesome.

[B]

Yeah. And I always say the future of medicine is light and laser therapy, bar none.

[A]

I'm starting to hear this a lot from people.

[B]

We. We re. Our cells are resonating at certain frequencies, and I was reading this book about it, and the one thing they said that really hit home for me was even if you have glyphosate, even if you have viral issues like Epstein Barr and Lyme and all this stuff at the core of your cells, all that's doing is disrupting the frequency they vibrate at. And so if you can get those cells back to proper vibration, it strengthens your system towards those external toxins or infections and stuff like that. So at the end of the day, we are literally just harmonizing the frequencies of your cells. And the better we can do that, that that's when you thrive. And if you don't, you're in a disease state.

[A]

So tell me this is a little selfish, because I really want my fiance to hear this because I've been trying to get him to understand this.

[B]

Oh, boy. I say now.

[A]

And I think it's really good for the audience to hear this too, because we hear this all the time. And I'm having all my doctors telling me this right now. Why is this why it's so important at night that you need to sleep in a pitch black, dark room with no light coming in anywhere? And why it's so incredibly important first thing in the morning to get sunlight in your eyes.

[B]

100. Okay. Because that's your whole circadian rhythm. Like, if you don't sleep in pure darkness, you don't release melatonin. Melatonin and cortisol are on a teeter totter. So now you. You're messing with your stress hormone. And then on the other teeter totter is stress hormone and insulin. And so now when those happen, now you start going towards diabetes over time because your. If your cortisol is. Is always being stimulated, then your blood sugar is always rising, and your body is a system of checks and balances. So it releases insulin to buffer that, and then over a lifetime, you get insulin resistance. And. And, you know, but that. I. I am the first one to say that I don't think. And I know that people are gonna be like this, this Doc's crazy. But I'll say this. I don't know for sure if our diet is the number one cause of diabetes.

[A]

Interesting. You think it's light?

[B]

I think that it is pesticides like glyphosate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And EMF and environmental toxicity that is raising our cortisol constantly because we don't eat all day, but we're bombarded by EMFs and pesticides all day, and that's a constant cortisol need, and that's a constant insulin need. And then that's inflammation, and that is what breaks us down and diabetes ensues. Now, diet, bad diet's gonna accelerate that significantly. It's not like. I'm not saying diet's, you know, unimportant, but I really think that our environment is more of a cause of diabetes than our diet.

[A]

That's fascinating. I've never heard that before, but it makes sense. I mean, that's. Wow. Okay. So I'm trying. I've been trying to get him on board with me because he doesn't want the windows closed at night for it to be pitch black. Sorry for calling you out, Hector. I love you.

[B]

I will say, though, like, for people listening, that's not a hall pass to eat poorly.

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

That is not a hall pass. Like, that. You need to eat properly. Like, that has to be your foundation, because that's the most controllable thing that you can do for your health.

[A]

Health. Well, and also, I would say this, too. We know for a fact that diabetes is also being driven by diet. Like, we just know that it is for sure. So that's, like, irrefutable. But this is in a different aspect. That's really cool that I've never heard. And I mean, look, it makes sense. We're just now starting to learn about how light affects us.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

We're, like, just in the brink of all of this, and.

[B]

And we're on the brink because it's been just, like, stuffed away for so long. But Nikola Tesla and Einstein and these people, like, and Royal Rife. These people knew this a hundred years ago, and if we would have listened to them and actually didn't really, you know, I would say that it was a lot of corruption behind the scenes. If that didn't exist, we would be so much further ahead in so many facets of life, especially health, if these people's concepts were brought to, you know, mainstream.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. Wow. It's so interesting. It's just really. It's so cool how I see all these themes that happen with the podcast. And also just in my daily life with people that I have interactions with, because I meet a lot of amazing people that are super into health.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so many people are talking about light now. So many.

[B]

At its core, everything, like I said, that is breaking us down is interrupting our frequencies, and light is frequency.

[A]

Yeah. That's really fascinating. I want to go a little different direction. I told you this earlier. But something that I'm really intrigued about is I heard you say, actually, on another podcast, that gallbladders are maybe the most underrated organ. Or. Or how would you put that? So basically, we hear all the time, oh, you don't really need a gallbladder. It's fine. Like, remove them. I think maybe more often than they probably should. Tell us about that.

[B]

Yeah. I say that it's the most missed organ in medicine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's this little sack that connects to your liver and into your small intestine, and it holds bile, and bile is produced by the liver, and then it gets into the gallbladder, and the gallbladder concentrates it, like, 20 times. And basically, what bile is is like a soap detergent. It's breaking down, emulsifying fats for you. But it also is antimicrobial heal. So it will prevent, you know, things like H. Pylori overgrowth parasites, you know, things like that. It's how we get rid of fungus. It's how we get rid of estrogen, which estrogen feeds fungus. Right. And so to think that this little. Or, like, God designed our body. Perfect. I don't know if anyone would ever refute that. We're perfectly designed. And so everything in us is for a purpose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Gallbladder is, like, the perfect example of how Western medicine has gone against nature's creation, you know, and it's like they try to play God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And sometimes gallbladders might have to be removed. Maybe there is a stone lodge that could burst the gallbladder and cause sepsis. Like, that's where Western medicine shines.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm grateful that we have that system, but you can't use those same principles to build your health. It's just the system is not designed for that. And so more times than not, the gallbladder does not need to be removed. And when you do, you're never really solving the root cause of it. You're. You're like. And this is. Even if you're lucky, it's. Imagine there's a fire in your body, and the smoke alarm is going off, and that smoke Alarm is your gallbladder crying for help and then they remove the batteries so it stops. Crying for help is basically what they're doing by removing your gallbladder. But the fire was never put out. And sometimes people will get symptomatic relief because it was screaming. Most times afterwards they're like, I'm worse off now, you know, than I was before. Or they start gaining a ton of weight because now their hormone picture is different because they can't, they're, they're not concentrating bile, which is not allowed, or not getting all the estrogen to be out of the system.

[A]

So let's say somebody had their gallbladder removed. What would be your advice to them? Are there things that they can take? Things that they can do to encourage bile production?

[B]

Digestive enzymes. Okay, yeah, like ox bile. Like actually taking. It's like an artificial gallbladder. Yeah, I'm, I'm big on it. I think enzymes are really good. A lot of people in frequency medicine don't like enzymes. Like they'll say that you get dependent on it, your body stops producing it. I just haven't found that clinically. That's my own experience. But if you don't have a goblet, you need something to help you digest, emulsify fats. Like it is what it is.

[A]

Yeah. What about. I always forget how to pronounce this. Tuda.

[B]

Yeah. Tadka. Tadka is a bile acid.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So yeah, that's exactly what you're doing with it.

[A]

Cuz that. Well, cuz my doctor, the reason I'm so intrigued by this is my doctor recently told me that I'm. I can't remember exactly how he said it, but I'm having some sort of issue with my bile right now as well and wants me to be on tadka and also told me to get an ox bile.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's helping your gallbladder. And then my thing would be like, is it the glyphosate or the mold that is causing that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's like the difference between functional and frequency medicine is you're able to ask the nervous system, okay, what's causing it? Do we get to the root cause? And then we also need constitutional support, which is like tadka and ox bile.

[A]

Oh my gosh. I might ask you to do a couple more tests on me after we record. Like, please help me. I'm kind of a little bit of a mess right now.

[B]

We'll see. We'll see what I find.

[A]

Yeah, I'm also just like My audience knows about this, too. I'm just on this full journey right now and why I did all this testing in the first place is that I'm hoping to be pregnant after my wedding, and I want to get all this stuff out now and addressed, because, you know, once you're pregnant, you can't be doing these detoxes. And I don't want to be growing a baby with high levels of glyphosate and mold.

[B]

That's right. That's right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I always say in my infertility membership video, like, the male and female need to do some type of gut healing, gut cleansing, liver, gallbladder stuff before trying to conceive, because that helps. Inflammation levels, like, normalized. It's the biggest bang for your buck, I would say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When it comes to that, actually.

[A]

Okay. Again, I hope you don't mind that just a lot of this is so pertinent to my life, and I'm hoping for my audience that this will help them as well. So if somebody has higher levels of inflammation, how would you address that? Just from a lens of, like, trying to figure that out? Because this is something that we're trying to figure out with Hector right now. So we're both kind of on this journey of, like, cleansing our guts, getting all this testing done. And his CRP markers were higher, and I was a little bit shocked by that because I don't really know where to start as far as, like, what.

[B]

CRP is either going to be. Food sensitivities that he's ingesting or infection.

[A]

I see. I think.

[B]

And he doesn't. He's. He's not overweight. So it's either going to be like, obese infections or food allergy sensitivities that you're consuming. That's what raises crp.

[A]

And we're trying to get rid of his psoriasis, too, which I think is a good infection.

[B]

Bingo. Parasites. Fungus.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Fungus.

[A]

Trying to think, oh, my gosh, there's so many things I'm definitely gonna have to have you come back on because there's so many things I want to ask you about.

[B]

I feel like that's the thing with frequency medicine is you can take it any which way. You can ask literally anything to see. Like, that's what I built my membership off of, is people were drowning in information, and they're saying, this is that, this is that. And they wanted knowledge. And I said, look, I will tell you what I found with frequency medicine. It. That's my experience. It's not a Textbook thing. You're not going to always read about it, but this is what I've found to help people who are struggling with that. And that's, that's it. That's the fun of frequency medicine too, is you start finding stuff out that you just challenge of what you learn. Like I learned this at a functional med seminar and then I go in clinic and it's like it worked on one out of 10 people. That's not good enough for me. So why, why is it the research saying that this is what it should be, but then it's really not clinically and it's, it's two totally different things. So it's always a fun conversation and it goes many different ways.

[A]

I mean, this is so fascinating. I'm loving this episode so much. Let's talk a little bit about EMFs. This is something that I have not talked about too much on the podcast, but it's so interesting. It's so cool to have somebody in our administration literally saying that he wants to address them as well. Like RFK Jr. Is actually really, really, really on this about, on this right now about EMFs. Well, let's just start where. What are they? Because every time I talk about them I get all these questions of people saying, I don't even know what that is.

[B]

Yeah. So the big thing with EMF is people will say it's non ionizing radiation. So it has no biological effect on us. Which is completely false. It's completely false. So it's, it's part of the light spectrum. Right. And the, the non naturally calm nn EMFs. Because the sun is EMF. EMF, the laser, ZMF. Like we are EMF and that's why it affects us so much, because it has such a biological effect on us. And so with us, how I explain it is that our electromagnetics are kind of like the ocean. The waves should come in, they should go out very steady. Whereas man made EMF is unidirectional one way, bombarding 50 billion times faster than what our waves need to be. And so it just really disrupts our frequencies like at the basis. That is, that's it in a nutshell. There's 5G, there's Bluetooth, there's cell towers, there's geopathic stress, WI fi, our phones.

[A]

Our iPads, all of it, all of them EMFs.

[B]

The one question I'll always say, and if people have heard me talk before, they've heard me say, this is whenever we're trying to improve society. And EMF is one of the biggest ones, because technology is everything. At what cost to our health?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And not too many things can pass that question. Like, any. Any improvement usually has something that affects our biological chemistry because we're the cream of the crop genetically. Like everyone who's alive today has. Their ancestors have survived so long kind of thing. But our ancestors never had to live in concrete jungles with EMF all over the place and artificial light, like pesticides.

[A]

And a lot of this stuff was just introduced in the last 50 years.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Long term medications, too. I think about this all the time. Like the birth control pill. When they first designed it, it was only meant to be taken for like a month or two. And then now people are on it for 10 years.

[B]

Proton Pump inhibitors, too, for reflux.

[A]

Statins.

[B]

Yep, statins.

[A]

I mean, it's. It is. It's really wild.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Okay, that's fascinating. So how concerned are you about emfs? I mean, it sounds like you're pretty concerned about it. And I have to be really, really frank and honest with you. EMFS is one of those things where I believe that they're causing harm. I know that they are, but it's so overwhelming to even address it that it's one of those things where I'm like, I kind of just have to pray and let live because, like, I don't want to live in a bubble.

[B]

Yep. I want to practice on that. I'm with you on that.

[A]

Right. Like, it's like, I don't know what else I can do. I mean, I feel like I'm doing the best that I can, but I'm also. A lot of people unplug their wi fi at night. I haven't even gotten to that point yet.

[B]

I unplug mine every night.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Yeah. I have grounding bags in our house. I. I have an SRT optimizer on me right now, which helps with emf. Another frequency device.

[A]

Maybe we need to get one of those.

[B]

They're great. But is the mental stress of it worse than the actual effects? Yeah, that's the question. And, like, control the controllables.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We were talking about how we've been looking at homes. We. We have been under contract twice in the last six months with homes, and the first home we walked away from because the EMF was too bad in.

[A]

The neighborhood had like a 5G tower.

[B]

It was. It's a great location, neighbor. And they had all the towers that go around the neighborhood. I have a really good electrician in Nashville who used to work for the Government. And then the government was teaching that with emf, you have to make sure that it's not affecting other technologies around it. But they never talked about the human interaction with it. And so it made him think, well, if we're being taught that this is. This, this device is going to affect these devices over here, what's it doing to us? And he went down the rabbit hole and became more of like an EMF electrician expert. Expert. And so I've had him for both houses do his testing. It takes like six hours, like a ton.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And the first one, we shut off everything in the home and there's still a magnetic field under the home from the neighborhood. And we walked.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, that I'm walking away from, like, I can control.

[A]

Because you can control that.

[B]

I can control that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I can unplug my wi Fi, you know, but, like, I'm on my phone. I know I'm not gonna. I'm going to live life. I'm not going to let the mental stress of it really destroy me. I'm going to do the best I can with the information that I have.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because a lot of times people who are just chronic worriers, your immune system follows your emotions.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So even if you are living in clean air, you're living in no EMF in your environment at least. Man made. Right. All natural EMFs are good. Even if you are eating clean and all this stuff. Stuff. But you're freaking out about chemtrails above and, you know, whatever is out of your control, you're still going to be sick.

[A]

I know, I know. And those people really stress me out because I'll get these people DMing me. Like, oh, my God, the EMFs and that. And you're flying all the time. The EMF. And I'm just like, stop. You're stressing me out.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

Like, you're. You are probably making yourself sick because you are trying to live in a bubble. And I refuse. I just refuse.

[B]

Right, that's. That's right.

[A]

To let that, like, stress me out.

[B]

I think that was one of the main reasons why I didn't want to do Instagram, was because there's a lot of that energy on Instagram and social. I'm just like, I, like, I'm not a hand holder.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm the first person to be like, just, just chill out, please. Like, just chill. Go on vacation. Drink your coffee if that makes you do something to get you out of this mental loop because it's driving you nuts. And it's going to drive me nuts.

[A]

Yes. And I don't want to talk about it with you. You know, it's like. It's like the way that I approach it is I control the controllables, like you said. I do the absolute best that I can, and then I just live and let live and I just give it to God because, like, I don't know what else to do, you know, that's it. And I don't want to live in a mental prison. I don't want to be freaking out about living in life, and I don't want to live in a bubble, so.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

It's just. Yeah, I think it's. And I think it's important for people to hear that. In your time of practicing, do you have a really cool, fun story that you're allowed to tell of somebody that maybe came in that was really sick and you were able to. To find them healing?

[B]

I have so many. Not. I'm not saying that from ego, but, like, I've had some really cool experiences. If I think the first one that comes my mind was when I was in California, we used to do this health class. And the health class was Q A. And this is basically me doing this health class is what helped me create my Instagram and membership and everything. Because just every Wednesday night for seven years, there can be 50 people in the room. I would sit in the hot seat and everyone, we'd provide dinner. They can ask me any question they want about health.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

And it was fun. At the time, I wasn't a huge fan because the day was from like 9am I wouldn't get home till like 10pm it's just an exhausting day. But in hindsight, I'm like, there's the most magic happened in those classes because these people would come in and by the end of the night, they were strangers. But by the end of the night, they were all in it together. They were like. Like, this is empowering, you know? And so one of the things is, if you ask the question, you can be a demo. And we showed a structural demo, a chemical demo, and emotional demo with muscle testing to show them this is what it's going to kind of look like when you come in as a patient. And this patient, this lady, came in from Catalina island, and I use her as the emotional demo. And we did one emotional clearing. I don't even remember what it was. One emotional clearing. And she came in like two and a half weeks later, and she brought four pages worth of how her life changed, changed since that one 30 second clearing.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That one always sticks with me for some reason. It's just so like. And I was telling you, I was with a friend of mine last night doing dinner and she was telling me about this great story where she helped this person with emotions who was going through cancer and he had passed away, but he had put her in her will, in his will, because of how profound the last four months was of his life with it. And it's like, like we do this stuff all day. It's very easy to take for granted how powerful this stuff truly is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then when you sit back and like you have experiences like that, you're like, you just, you, you made a mark on someone's life that's like priceless.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I mean, and that's what it's all about. Right. This is, my assumption would be, is why you got into this is there's a desire to help people and lessen suffering. And so when you're able to actually do that for somebody, I mean it is, it's truly remarkable. It's really cool. It's so, it's so gratifying.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. That's one of my favorites. I love that there's been many, but that one is just, it's always profound to me.

[A]

And it's a good reminder that our emotional trauma and, and our emotional well being and mental well being are things that have not always been priority, I think in society and addressing them. And it's a reminder that it's so incredibly important that we do need to address those things.

[B]

It's part of the triad of health, structural, chemically emotional.

[A]

Is there anything else that we haven't gone over that you feel like is really important for people to hear? I mean, I guess maybe we did talk about, about vaping. Maybe we touch on that for a second. Because I have a lot of friends. Actually, I don't have a ton of friends. I have some acquaintances that I know that when I see them sometimes and they have a vape with them, I'm just like, what are you doing?

[B]

So vaping is kind of like the. How he just said that I'm not great at holding hands for people. Right. Like vaping is one where if someone's like, well, I like it and, and you know, I'm gonna keep doing it or whatever and it can't be that bad for me. I'm like, it's terrible for you. It's cut with chemicals and I'm not Going to talk any more about it with you. Like, it's, it's. It's an absolute. No. Nope, done. Don't even get an energy.

[A]

I. This might be a little controversial, but I think they're worse than cigarettes. I would rather smoke a cigarette than a vape, for sure.

[B]

And, and you can let me be clear.

[A]

I'm not condoning smoking cigarettes because I.

[B]

Know that's gonna be taken.

[A]

That's. I know how people cut that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But. Yeah, continue.

[B]

I mean, it's, it's. Cigarettes is the same thing as like back in the day in Native American culture. Like nicotine and tobacco.

[A]

Yeah. And coyote and like all that.

[B]

They were doing antioxidants, brain power. But big tobacco cut the filters of. Of cigarettes with toxins and then cut the tobacco with toxins. And vapes are the new age that they're cutting it with chemicals to make it whatever shelf stable, whatever it is. I'm not an expert on it because I don't even. I don't even dabble in that. But I can tell you that when I've muscle tested it on people, it's like a very low frequency.

[A]

See O. Well. And it's creating this new disease that they're calling popcorn lung.

[B]

Yep, yep, yep.

[A]

That really scares me. And people are getting it like crazy now, I guess. And they're getting it pretty fast too, is what I heard.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, think about. They're. They're doing that. They're breathing in pesticides. They're eating pesticides. They're around emf, which then just can exacerbate all of that and exacerbate mold because mold grows 600 times faster in the presence of EM. EMF. So it's like you have all these things. And again, if someone's gonna listen to that and be like, I need to be bubble boy or whatever, and it's like you don't. You just have at least do the basics and have at least a gut feeling of this is good for me or not good for me.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Let's not make it more complicated than it has to be.

[A]

Exactly. You don't have to live in a bubble, but just prioritize. Eating whole real foods. Get good sleep at night.

[B]

Yeah. Read labels. Just read the label on what you're buying at the food store.

[A]

Exactly. Like, it doesn't have to be that hard and complicated.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

It's just the. Really. It's also the. I think we have overcomplicated this. It's very, very simple. Go for walks get outside, go in nature, get sunlight, go to bed at a decent hour, eat good food, prioritize eating whole nutritious, real foods, drink enough water. Like it is so simple and it's become so complicated and to be fair, we've made it really hard in society. But it's just about coming back to the very, very basics of all of this and just remembering that you don't have to overcomplicate it and don't smoke. It's terrible for you.

[B]

Easy. It's just easy.

[A]

Yeah, very easy.

[B]

The first frequency med seminar I ever took was in the summer of 2013. And on day one they said no, it, no matter what people come in with, the harder their case is, the more you have to get back to the basics.

[A]

Makes sense.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So true.

[A]

Well, and I love it too when, when I, I meet people that are, are so new to all of this. Like I think of my, my like in laws and some of my family introducing them all this new stuff. Like it's cool to see them be like, oh really, it's like that simple, right? You know, like, oh, it doesn't have to be so complicated because I think so many people think, oh, it's going to be this crazy uphill battle and I'm going to be eating bland chicken every day with no seasoning and like, like bodybuilder food like broccoli and just bland chicken. And I'm like, no, you can eat an array of amazing, really delicious food and it doesn't have to be that.

[B]

Hard and it doesn't have to be that expensive. A lot of people are like, I can't afford to eat that way. But like, like you can if you really like buy grass fed ground beef and make dishes and stuff like that. Like it's not that much more expensive. It really isn't.

[A]

It's not. I think where, where people start getting into the expenses of all of it is when they're buying all the powders, like the protein powders and the collagens and the, the packaged foods, the, you know, not to call them out. I love simple mills but you know, the simple mills and c and all of that. And look, I love all of that. If you have the budget for it, great. But you don't need to be buying all that excess stuff. If you just go and you, you focus on the real simple basics, it's actually really not that much more expensive either.

[B]

A hundred percent.

[A]

What's something you see every day in your practice that would blow most people's minds. Sometimes these are hard to answer too.

[B]

So I know that is tricky because everyone is walking a different walk of life. There's not like one thing that everyone has. Well, there's one thing everyone has. Emotional trauma.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

By far. Like really putting weight into that I think is very, very important. Yeah. Because everyone, they said walks a different life. But that's one thing that's consistent is like even if it wasn't. And here's, here's, here's a good one. This just came to my mind and I think this is good, is when someone hears emotional trauma, the first thing they think is like, they were physically abused. They were whatever.

[A]

They lost a sibling like I did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it doesn't have to be that dramatic.

[B]

It doesn't have to be that dramatic. Traumatic. Exactly. Like, yes, those things happen for sure. When I was in California, the amount of physical abuse as kids, like everyone's like, yeah. When I was a kid, my dad was doing this, my mom was doing this, like, was disturbing to me. I'm like, wow, I didn't even know this existed at this level. But if you're a, like a six year old kid, seven year old kid and your parents ground you in that moment, that's everything to you and that's emotional trauma.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then your body just keeps storing them them. And later in life you might have a boss who you think is worse than they actually are because they're reminding you of parents grounding you when you're a seven year old child. And so I call emotions email threads. You have the current email and then you have the original email and everything that remind you of that original email just builds over your lifetime until you're able to release it with a physiological correction.

[A]

Wow. Okay. I love this. I love that we've focused so much on this because I think it's so incredibly important because personally, I have been through this, this and have seen the impacts on my own life. And I, I. And I am one of those people that largely ignored it forever. Because it's scary too. You don't want to face it.

[B]

That's right. It's the, it's the hardest uphill battle you'll ever climb. It's the most rewarding thing you can ever do for your body.

[A]

Truly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I love this. I love this episode so much. This is so great. Well, please let know or please let everybody know where they can find you.

[B]

Yeah. I just went back to my original Dr. Charlie DC. I used to be 2.0 because my original one got shadow banned for vaccines.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I took back the original username and then drcharliedc.com has my membership and all my knowledge information in a digital library. We do Red Pill, your healthcast. We have a podcast. You should come on our podcast.

[A]

I would love that. Yeah, let's do it.

[B]

We'll do that. And we just talk the truth on there. And yeah, that's pretty much the only thing I'm on is. Is Instagram. I don't really do much else.

[A]

Yeah. And everybody go follow him. You're such a great follow. I. I found you. I think it was during COVID I was trying to remember, but I'm pretty sure it was during COVID because you were talking about the COVID vaccines. Right.

[B]

It was probably just after I started doing social media in 2021, like the end of 2021.

[A]

That makes sense because I, for some reason, I feel like I found you around like 2022.

[B]

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, that would make sense.

[A]

Okay, cool. Well, everybody give them a follow. You give great advice on there. And what I love so much about your account is you talk about a lot of stuff that I have. I haven't seen a lot of other people in the wellness world and doctors really talk about and address. It's cool. You go into different areas.

[B]

I think the reason why that is is because I still treating patients and so I'm talking through experiences, not like what research studies are saying.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And. And I'm all for research. Like it. It has a purpose. It is absolutely not even close to my gold standard by far. Because if research really works, worked, people wouldn't need doctors because all the research would be true.

[A]

Well, and there's also that stat that it takes about 17 years on average for the research to catch up with what they're like, practicing in.

[B]

Yep. And that's 17 years that you could have had a parasite that was causing you autoimmune, whatever it might be.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And so, you know, some people will disagree with me on that, but that's just what I find.

[A]

Well, I mean, you're quite literally on the front lines and you're seeing all this and you're. You're treating real life people that are actually dealing with these sorts of issues. So. So it's really important.

[B]

And. And that's. That's what the membership was really birth off of, because I started getting 30,000 people on my wait list and I couldn't see anyone. And so I'm like, all right, well, I'll just do. I'll rent A studio. I actually started out my spare bedroom in my house. And I'll do a video each week of whatever topics you want to hear about. And I'll do deep dives for you, and then you can, you know, do whatever you want with it.

[A]

That is so cool. And how can. How can people join the membership on your website?

[B]

Yeah, just through Instagram.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Through Instagram. And it's, you know, I made it 10 bucks a week. Like, it's not expensive. And we have a community, a private group where thousands of members just talk all day long of what helped them, what didn't help them. I. I knew people were drowning in information, starving for knowledge, and they were lacking. Community.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So how could I bring that was. I can do deep dives on topics people want to hear about. I can. I do a weekly Q and A on Zoom with people. And then I created the Facebook group so that people can actually. Maybe they live in the same cities as each other and they can actually meet because it's. It feels like an island for a lot of people when they dive into this stuff and their friends aren't on the same page, their families aren't on the same page. Like, it's definitely. It can feel lonely. And so I tried to create something that would, you know, fill that void, so to speak.

[A]

When I think about too, especially I get messages from people all the time and they're like, hey, I'm in this really small town and, you know, middle of nowhere, and I can't find a doctor that practices this way and I don't know how to get help. So it's so cool that we have the Internet now and people have. Have access to stuff like this, because if they're not living in, like, LA or Austin or somewhere that's really dialed in with this kind of stuff, they can still have access to it.

[B]

100.

[A]

Yeah. It's so cool.

[B]

Yeah, it's great.

[A]

Well, thank you so much for everything.

[B]

Thanks for having me. I'm glad we made this happen.

[A]

Me too. I know, I know. This is so great. And I think my audience is going to love this. And. Yeah. So thank you so much for coming on.

[B]

Thanks for having me.

[A]

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