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Ali Stuckey
The west is being colonized by Islam as well as the progressive LGBTQ lobby. Today we've got a pastor from Australia, Andrew Sedra, who tells it like it is. He describes the commonalities between Islam, progressivism, even atheist communism. This unholy alliance we see dominating the West. How, how has this happened? What is the future of it? And what are Christians roles in all of this? We're talking about this, but also so much more with our guest today on Relatable. This is brought to you by our friends at Life or Death Con. That is a pro life conference happening in D.C. this week where I will be speaking. Andrew will be speaking. You can still get your Tickets. Go to lifeordeathcon.com use code ally10 for 10% off your ticket. That's lifeordeathcon.com code ali10. Pastor, thank you so much for joining me.
Andrew Cedra
Thank you for the honor, Ali. I love what the Lord is doing through you. We're watching you from the other side of the world. Likewise, the conservative millennial, which is like an oxymoron.
Ali Stuckey
Yes, I know.
Andrew Cedra
Millennials don't tend to be conservative.
Ali Stuckey
Yes. That was like, that was my OG blogger name. Even everyone watching this knows that I started out as the conservative millennial back when people thought no millennials were conservative. Now we're old now no one talks about our generation. I don't know. I'm guessing you're. Are you a millennial too?
Andrew Cedra
I am a millennial. I think I'm like 1991. So I am in the millennial camp. It's quite mind blowing. Hey, it's like unlike what people think, I kind of feel like Gen Z are definitely more conservative than millennials for some reason. We've seen that whole feminization process that took place since the 1960s. It's kind of now reacting with Andrew Tate, all the crew. So it's quite interesting watching the swing back as older people, I think in Australia at least tend to be a bit more liberal, but younger people for some reason are becoming more conservative. Okay, so which is quite interesting.
Ali Stuckey
Yes, we, I wasn't anticipating going into this, but since you mentioned Andrew Tate, we did an episode on him last week. There's such a debate on the right and among Christians saying, okay, you know, why are these young men, maybe in Australia too, but like flocking to Andrew Tate. Is it the fault of the church? What is going on? What's Your assessment?
Andrew Cedra
Church, 1,000%. The church is the problem. The church is the answer because leadership is the problem. And leadership is the answer, the church across the west, in Australia particularly, and in America, have been feminist and feminized. So as a consequence, a male goes to church and they feel out of place. And you nailed it with your book, Toxic Empathy. It's the whole feminization of the church where we value love without truth, empathy without courage, the love of God, without the fear of God being nice over being truthful and being loving and not fighting. So you wonder why, like, not being a goss or anything. I saw that funny photo online with one of the very famous pastors, he wearing like a pink shirt with his family. And I was like, yeah, there is a problem in the church, particularly, I would say boomers, exes, and half a millennial pastors. They're very feminized, like they're trying to be nice. But as a younger millennial, there's an older millennial crew. I think we're in the younger millennial crew. As a male millennial, I find myself very disconnected from the church. That's why I kind of started the church. Like, I was in a very biggest liberal church in Australia. Biggest one, very famous music, you probably know it. Something song and trying to be polite. And yeah, it was just a feminist feminized culture. And it was very hard as a conservative male to kind of fit in. It fit in that box of theological liberalism, which is the enemy within the church. So I think the rise of Andrew Tate is just a natural phenomenon. And as much as you can hate him, you should have discipled him. And he is like a reaction to a feminist feminized church that been taking place. And I think it's very obvious now. Like, you have seen the last 30 years, the church has lost ground everywhere. The gay marriage debate, the abortion debate, the God and government debate. We can clearly see that the church in America and the west have lost so much ground, it's not even open to interpretation. Like, it's. It's crazy when you live in a moment of time where you are losing the culture war, but then somehow pastors are acting like we're winning. And by nature, men like to win. Like, duh. Have you ever been a man before? Yeah.
Ali Stuckey
Trans women, like, women want to reconcile. Men want to win. In general, yes. I mean, I'm competitive to a dude degree, but I think in general, men and women's nature are different in that way.
Andrew Cedra
So I was reading an article yesterday, and they said Australia at the moment is being led by a leftist matriarchy. I think that whole complex of matriarchy where you get this Hyper level of compassion, kindness and empathy with that truth, justice, and that fighting element. How God told Joshua, be strong and courageous and fight. And as a consequence, it is not shocking that most men follow Andrew Tate.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah. Okay. I have some thoughts on this. So many thoughts.
Andrew Cedra
I like him, but I don't like him. But. But to an extent, I'm like, I can't say that he's more courageous than most. Passive, like the sad reality. I'm like, don't get angry at the influence. Get angry at the fact that people are listening to him. Because you're not saying it.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, I have that. We have, like, slightly different perspectives on this. I would agree with everything that you said about, like, the matriarchy. I call it misplaced mothering. I think that's why a lot of women, even Christian women, follow the social justice movement. They don't. A lot of women don't have kids themselves. And that nurture, natural instinct to mother doesn't go away.
Andrew Cedra
Like Karen vibes.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, well, you started when you were five years old taking care of your babies. And just because you are not married by the time you're in your 30s doesn't mean that that mothering instinct goes away. So you channel it into social justice.
Andrew Cedra
Causes and into power places and into your career.
Ali Stuckey
Yes. And which is why they see, like, either, you know, the criminal or the illegal migrant as the child that they're taking care of. One thing I will say, though, about the Andrew Tate thing, and then I want to hear what. What you have to say about this. Yeah, I totally agree about the feminization of parts of the church, but wouldn't you also say that there are some men that gravitate towards him simply because of sin? Like There are women 100 who believe in false.
Andrew Cedra
Andrew Tate is a Muslim. I was talking to my wife, and before he became a Muslim, I grew up in the Middle East, a Muslim world. So very patriarchal society. So it's kind of half of my life was in Egypt, half of my life was in Australia. So I had the two opposite extremes. The Muhammad followers kill the infidel domineer over. Women have four wives. You get 72 versions in heaven Islam, and then you come to the west and the hyper feminist. So it's quite interesting, me watching dislike war. You go there and women are oppressed, and then they're going to luck. No, they're not. And you come here and men are oppressed, but women say they're not. So it's. It's quite shocking. But going back, because he's totally.
Ali Stuckey
He's totally degenerate. And, like, women are susceptible to listening to false teachers. And we say, well, yeah, that's just sin that women are listening to false teachers. We don't say, oh, well, it's the church's fault that women are doing that. But for men, when they listen to false teachers, instead of giving them the responsibility of like, yeah, you're sinning by.
Andrew Cedra
This, I think it's a church's fault that young people are gravitating toward there because we are not offering a better solution. And it's in the stats, like, across Australia, I think 60 to 70% of churches are mostly women. And we figured it out across there. The issue is we keep addressing women, women, women and not men. And going back to the Andrew Tate, like, Andrew Tate is a little boy that pretends to be a man. Like, men get married, little boys sleep around and not get married. So Andrew Tate is a little boy that pretends like he's a man because ultimately he's strong and courageous, which is the virtue of a man. But he lacks a big virtue of the man, which is love, the Bible said, and self control, too. So if you can't control yourself, if you can't love a woman enough to marry her, you're not a man. The Bible said, love yourself, same as Christ, love the church. So I always say to people, if you want to become a man, be strong, be courageous. Love and sacrifice and self control. And he has that man boy condition. And we like parts of it. I love the courage, I love the fighting element. But obviously, when it comes to commitment, like, if you are that strong, you should be able to strong your sexual desires enough to marry one woman, but he can't. So he's very strong, but he's also very. He's this paradox. There's a lot of, you know, the Trump style of figures rising where you like parts of them, but you don't like parts of them. And it just happened. And you're going to see a lot more. It's. The church was one extreme. Yeah, it's quite interesting, but I was telling my wife that Andrew Tate will 100% become a Muslim before he become a Muslim. Like, he. He wants to be godly and a womanizer at the same time. Yeah.
Ali Stuckey
And you're saying that's what Islam gets?
Andrew Cedra
Well, that's what Islam is. It's like you get to get four wives, you get to sleep around with the infidel, you get to kill your enemy, you get to be strong, you get to kill your enemies and declare war on the world and take territory. You get to get 72 versions. In the afterlife, a woman gets one husband, a man gets four wives. It sound like a very Android religion.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
So it gives him the opportunity to be godly and sexually immoral at the same time.
Ali Stuckey
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Andrew Cedra
Yeah, so. So I grew up in the Middle east, the Muslim world. So as a Christian there, it was a very, very tough, like Egypt a Christian. I grew up a Christian. I was older Christian. So I did a DNA test. I was like 98% Coptic Egyptian. So we were like the ancient pagan Egyptians that when Mark went to Egypt in 50 A.D. we became Christian. Obviously pagans are very aggressive. They ended up killing mark in 50 or 70 AD by tying his body to a horse across the nation. But eventually by 300 AD, most of Egypt became Christian and you had the formation of the Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Church. So I kind of grew up in that world. Islam took over in 600 A.D. and before you know it, for the last 14 to 1600 years, there was the systematic persecution, oppression, suppression, killing, raping, beheading, jizya, which is the Muslim tax, the peep pressure. And in the last 1500 years, Egypt went from 90% Christian to now 10% Christian. And you see that across the Muslim world. Like so many people can look at the Middle east, whether it's Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Algeria, Jerusalem, Syria, like, oh, those barbaric Arabs. I'm like, no, not really. What happened was, is that the Islamic religion Rose. And it took by force all of the Christian east and now you have the Middle East. So that's kind of where I come from. And we have seen the rise of Islam and Christianity is nearly eradicated across the Middle East.
Ali Stuckey
To go a little in Europe, I.
Andrew Cedra
Mean, when you're looking at someone like, America is very. I. I thought I was a conspiracy theorist. I talked about it a few times with a few people, Charlie, and a lot of people. And then I watched the terrorist attack recently in New Orleans and I was like, it's already here. And he was, I'm pretty sure he was in Texas. From Texas, actually, that guy that took the car.
Ali Stuckey
And he was from Houston.
Andrew Cedra
Houston.
Ali Stuckey
So as long as he to Islam as an adult, like, I think he actually, maybe he was like, his DNA is Middle Eastern or something.
Andrew Cedra
The Islamic ideology.
Ali Stuckey
Yes. Converted to Islam.
Andrew Cedra
I think Islam is a man religion because you get sex, power, territorial forces. You get to kill the infidel. You get that blood rush of the Muhammad.
Ali Stuckey
Have a six year old.
Andrew Cedra
Yeah. So he married Aisha, or Aisha when he was 6 years old. And then he consummated the marriage when he was nine.
Ali Stuckey
He had nine wives, and then when she was nine, he consummated. Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Cedra
Islam has a problem of morality. It has a problem of morality. The issue is, in Islam, you have. Is that they have a very perverted, evil, violent and wicked prophet. They would want to kill me for saying that. But if I was in Egypt now, I'll be in jail for 10 years for saying that or I'll get killed on the street. So that's kind of the environment that we grew up in. You couldn't preach the gospel outside of the church world. You couldn't proclaim the name of Jesus in the public square. You could never speak truth to power. You could never convert a Muslim to a Christian. You had blasphemy laws, which is, if a pastor ever speaks against Islam, you're gonna go to jail five to 10 years and you'll probably get tortured and die there. So my dad was a pastor. We escaped Egypt in 2007 because he converted a particular Muslim woman to Christianity. So the Muslim Brotherhood, which is like the terrorist group like Hamas, wanted to kill him and the Egyptian moderate Muslim government wanted to put him in jail. So he ended up escaping to Thailand in 2007 and we went to Australia as religious refugees. So that's kind of the world I come from. So it's. It's very different.
Ali Stuckey
Okay, tell me why. Because everything you're describing About Islam, most conservatives would say yeah, it is the most oppressive and regressive.
Andrew Cedra
More than communism I would argue religion that we have.
Ali Stuckey
And yet why do you have progressives who claim to be pro woman and pro liberation? Why do they so often quiz for.
Andrew Cedra
Palestine, Islam and gays for Gaza. This is the paradox. It makes sense but it doesn't make a lot of sense. Grease for Palestine, ghetto Gaza, juice for Hitler. It's pigs for bacon, chickens for kfc. It doesn't even make sense. It's very interesting phenomena because as you study both worldviews, it's a worldview alliance. Islam hates Christianity and that's why Islam hates America. One of the biggest experiences I remember very clearly was during 911 I was in Egypt, I was going to my swimming training and the moment we saw that video of the plane crashing in the Wal Trade center my friends, very nice people were celebrating on the street. Death to America. Victory to Allah. Finally Islam has won. I remember being in that moment and I didn't know I'll be here today. So it's kind of coming to America and I'm like I remember. And what people fail to realize is that Islam is a totalitarian ideology. Islam is a one world order totalitarian ideology that pretends to be a religion. Islam is a political one world order. I know people like the World Economic Forum and all the one world old stuff. Well there's another one, it's called Islam and it's there and it's here and it's real. That's why you see Muslims here fighting for Palestine and like you want to live in America, why do you care about Palestine? Doesn't make a lot of sense. But because Islam has this concept called the Ummah. Islam is a one world religion that believes one day they're going to take over the whole world and there's going to be one world government order called Ummah. So Islam hates America because Islam hates Christianity in the Middle East. America and Christianity are the exact same thing. And the reality is America is a Christian nation whether people like it or not. One nation under God. When you see all this freedom stuff, I grew up in the Middle east, we don't have that. So when you look at America you're like, yeah, so Islam hates America because Islam hates Christianity and Islam hates Christianity because Islam hates freedom. See the left is the same. The left hates America because they hate Christianity. They hate Christianity because they hate freedom. So both of the left, the progressive left creates for Palestine the God that's left.
Ali Stuckey
It's not because they Hate Jesus.
Andrew Cedra
Well. And eventually you get the figure of the whole thing, which is Jesus. It's an antichrist movement. So what you'll figure out is that progressivism and Islam are the exact same thing. I know. They're the total opposite. The total same.
Ali Stuckey
Interesting.
Andrew Cedra
So you have the unholy alliance between godless leftism and violent Islam that birth violent. They're both authoritarian, they're both totalitarian, they both go after the church. And that's why when I came to Australia and I watched the left act out like they act exactly like the Muslims. So hate speech laws are blasphemy laws. Same thing we have in Australia, anti conversion therapy laws. Where as a pastor I would go to jail if I pray for a gay person three to five years. So what's funny, in Egypt that's called apostasy law. So what I figured out as I came here is that the progressive left and violent Islam, they are the exact same guy. The green and the red, the communist red and the green Islam. So it's the same demonic spirit of the Antichrist. But it is a very mind blowing reality quiz for Palestine, Guess for Gaza. It doesn't make sense on a surface level, but in Australia, 70 to 80% of Muslims vote left.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
Here you see Ilhan Omar and AUC that besties like what the heck? That doesn't make sense.
Ali Stuckey
Muslims obviously don't believe in homosexuality or they don't kill the gangs.
Andrew Cedra
They don't. Just like they say, oh, you're homophobe. I'm like, dude, you can be what you want. I'm not gonna kill you. Just don't do it on the street, don't do it with my children and don't celebrate on the street in the Middle east. You'll get killed.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
So again, it doesn't make sense. But once you realize both godless leftism and violent Islam, they hate Christianity, they hate America, they hate the west and they hate Christ.
Ali Stuckey
So why do they both hate Israel?
Andrew Cedra
Exactly. So Israel is the only liberal experiment of democracy in the Middle East. It's crazy when you watch his gates for Palestine, we have a lot of them in Sydney. Oh, free, free Palestine. I'm like, Palestine will never be free. Palestine is a totalitarian crap hole. It's like, have you ever heard about any country in the Muslim Middle east that's free? Like you're crazy. I grew up in moderate Egypt. If I go now there, I'll be killed or I'll go to jail. So Iraq, not free. Syria, not free. Algeria, not free. Turkey is not free. When they say free, free Palestine, I'm not sure what the hell they mean because there is no free country in the Middle East. Israel is the only place that I can go as a Christian. I'm not going to get killed. Israel, I'm going there actually this year. Israel is the only place that I can go as a Christian and I can preach the gospel. Maybe a Jew might spit on me, but he's not going to kill me. That's all right. That's okay. I don't care. You can spit on me. Israel is the only nation that a Muslim can become a Christian. A Christian can become a Muslim. In fact, in Egypt there's like eight Jews. In Israel, there's like 1.6 million Muslims. Right in Gaza, there's like 0.1% Christians, zero Jews and 99.99% are Muslims. So when they say free Palestine, genocide, it's bullcrap. It doesn't make sense. It's not true, it's not real, it's not historically accurate, it's not statistically accurate, it's not philosophically accurate. It's again, the hate towards the west. And Israel does represent the West. Whether you want to disagree to do Christian values, Christian values, we can argue over that. But the reality is both Judaism and Christianity, we believe in the ten Commandments, Islam doesn't. Islam says kill the infidel, which happens to be Christians, Jews, gays, Communists, atheists, every single thing that's not Muslim. So the infidel happens to encapsulate everybody that doesn't believe in violent Allah and his false prophet, Islam, Muhammad. So yeah, you have this weird unholy alliance. So Communists always will hate Israel because it's the only experiment of freedom and liberty in the Middle East. So I don't want to go there theologically. I'm just talking politically, practically, statistically, as a religious refugee, I am a lot more safer in Israel, right, than in the country I was born.
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Andrew Cedra
This is what I call. There is an actual genocide that's happening in Gaza for the Christians. Christianity was 6,000 people in the 1970s. In Gaza right now there's less than 800 Christians. Where are all these Christians? So Muslims are multiplying like rabbits. Christianity is disappearing. There is an actual genocide that is happening in Palestine and that is a genocide of Christians. I was thinking about it today, like we saw the George Floyd case. You can't judge a video by two minutes. The exact same thing is very sad watching little kids die in the Middle east, but the exact same thing. You cannot judge a video by five minutes. There's a context, there's political narrative. There is a lot of complexity to the Middle east and the complexity is, why don't you go to Gaza and go on the street for a walk? It's very simple. I lived in the Middle East. I grew up where we grew up hating the Jews, chanting, kill the Jews. Well, we got taught in school that killing Jews is service to Allah. That was the institutional anti Jewish hate. We grew up. And by the way, first they're going to go for the Jews, then they're going to go for the Christians. When next? When next? Crazy enough. In Australia on October 7, there was people screaming in front of Sydney Opera House. Gas at Jews, Gas at Jews. And I looked at that. I'm like, man, something was about to happen. A few months later, a Muslim boy, anti Jewish Muslim boy, went to a church 40 minutes down the road and stabbed a priest as he was about to open the Bible. And he said, allahu Akbar. Why did that happen? First they're going to go for the Jews, then they're going for the Christians. We have eight Jews in Egypt and 10% Christians. You can go use Zionism stuff Whatever you want to say. But the reality is Islam has been annihilating Christianity since the moment of its birth. Egypt used to be Christian. Algeria used to be Christian. And this is the actual story. And that has nothing to do with Zionism, Bill Gates, whatever you want to dig into. Who funds the money. Islamist. Institutionally anti Christian and anti Judaism. You saw them in Washington, D.C. at the beginning of the year. They were burning the American flag. Why would Muslims come from the other side of the world to burn an American flag?
Ali Stuckey
Right.
Andrew Cedra
I think they are very misinformed. And they just, Honestly, they just need to go for a walk in Israel and go for a walk in Algeria.
Ali Stuckey
It's not that complicated.
Andrew Cedra
It's not that complicated. But they got Covid. Right. They got Black Lives Matter. Right. They got this one wrong.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
And the reason is because they're not from the region.
Ali Stuckey
Right.
Andrew Cedra
I get a lot of Hamid. You're like, you Zionist. You're Christian. Christian, Zionist. I'm like, I just happen to live in the Middle east, and I understand how horrific. I was in the airport a few weeks ago in Sydney. Sydney were being overtaken by Islam. So our area, for example, we had to move our church because we got so many threats that people want to kill me for what I say.
Ali Stuckey
Muslims.
Andrew Cedra
Muslims.
Ali Stuckey
Not just progressives. Because you say a lot about LGBTQ and stuff that most pastors aren't willing to say too. So sounds like we had so many.
Andrew Cedra
Death threats that we had to move our home to a more white area because our area that we lived in got infiltrated by Islam.
Ali Stuckey
Wow.
Andrew Cedra
So it's happening. Australia is 10 years ahead of America. You guys kind of started seeing a little bit of terrorist attacks here and there. It's happening. We had a Jewish synagogue get bombed a few weeks ago. It's a real. I think it's a reality check for the anti Zionism conservatives. Yeah, they. They got Covid. Right. They got blm. Right. They got leftism. Right. They have Islam and Israel. Very wrong.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
Yeah.
Ali Stuckey
Tell me about the progressive political landscape in Australia. I, I, you know, I didn't know that much about politics in Australia, but then I saw Covid, and your leadership went absolutely psychotic.
Andrew Cedra
I can go to two directions. Covid or lgbq. Let's go with COVID So going back to the leftist matriarchy, what you saw with COVID is a womanized approach to dealing with safety issues. So because women don't have kids that they can control and get rid. Take care of them at home. Once you put so much Woman in power. You get that current safety approach.
Ali Stuckey
Misplaced mothering.
Andrew Cedra
Misplaced mothering. So before you know it, we are here to protect you. I'm like, honey, leave me alone. I don't want your protection. Please. Like, I'm like, well, we want to make sure you don't get Covid. I'm like, can you please leave me alone? I'm like, I'm happy to die from COVID Yeah. Rather than to die.
Ali Stuckey
Don't forget your jacket. Eat your vegetables. That's basically what they're doing.
Andrew Cedra
Put a mask on. Put a mask on. Put your mask off. And oh, my gosh, it's matriarchy. And you can feel it. It's this Kamala Harris had it all over her. Like, she the totalitarian Karen freak. Like, it's like, you, like, please stay away from me. Like, at the moment, we are governed by the socialist left. Like, that's literally the Labor Party, and 51% of the party is women. I'm like, I don't want a party to be 50% woman because they're gonna control the hell out of me. It just. It's misplaced mothering. So what you saw with COVID was a womanized approach. It was exaggeration, control. Locking down people. It's like punishing your kid. You know, when your kid does something wrong, you're like, go to your room. That's literally what they did for us, for the whole country. So we had the longest lockdowns in the world. Not just the longest lockdowns in the world. We had the longest lockdown in the history of humanity. Two years. I don't think there's any country in the history of anything that the leaders decided to lock them down for two years, the church was shut. You can go to the brothel to sleep with a prostitute, but you couldn't go to church to worship Jesus. Progressivism. And they say, oh, don't talk about politics. I'm like, really, mate? You could go to the liquor store to get alcohol and get depressed in your misery, but you couldn't go to church. Very interesting. You could go to the racist black Lives matter protest in Australia. I'm like, we don't even have black people. I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. So this progressive movement is like, yeah, like, I had a few of my black friends. Yeah, racism. I'm like, dude, there's no slavery in Australia. I'm not sure what you're talking about. So the leftist progress, it's everywhere. It's. It's it's a, it's an ideological framework. So they were like so you could go and protest for Black Lives matter but you couldn't go to Jesus to worship church in church because of the science. So I'm not sure what the hell is that science.
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Andrew Cedra
So we had that crazy thing. So in Covid the big thing was this is very crazy. We had a curfew that you have to go home at 8pm Again, government makes a horrible God and government makes an abusive mom. It's very, very important. My mom used to allow me to go out till 10pm the government, 8pm you had to be home. We literally had drones and helicopters ride down the street every single day to make sure that nobody goes out of their home. You will only allow to go home out of home once a day to exercise and walk for one mile and not go back. In order for you to go to church after two years of lockdown, every church, the government installed a QR code. Again, no person Australia talks about that like this happened. And I'm like, it's almost like for me like a traumatic experience. I'm like, I look back, I'm like, did that just happen? You know, it's like you didn't really know what it means when you're there. But looking backwards you're like, crap. That was, that was crazy, psychopathic. Like that wasn't totalitarian, therapeutic totalitarianism. It's, it's tyranny for your own good. Tyranny for your own safety. Tyranny for your health. Again, the prime minister was very overweight, but he was talking to us about health. Again, this this weird stuff. It's like, can you please lead by example and look healthy before you tell me to be healthy?
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
But going back, every church had to have a QR code that was installed by the government. And that QR code was connected to the government agencies, to the government of the government of the time, and to the police. Every single person. In order for you to enter church, you have to scan a code. They had to know your name, your medical status, what time you enter church, what time you exited church, and what church you went to. If that is not tyranny and totalitarian control, what is scary. So that was the expectation for you to enter church and exit church every single moment. One time, my brother went to the shops, and there was one Covid case. So they ended up locking everybody in the shop, in their home for two weeks. And the police had to go and check on him every day that he's not allowed to leave home. The house in front of us, there was a big apartment. They had one case of COVID The police came and set up a whole fence around them. And these people were not allowed to leave except to pick up food. The police would give food and put them in the front. And those sick peasants had to come down and take the food. And they were surrounded by the police for two weeks.
Ali Stuckey
Wow.
Andrew Cedra
24 7. The police wants it. So. So that is the story of Australia. And finally you landed with in Melbourne down the road. Melbourne is like our California. So all the crazy LGBTQ stuff happens in Melbourne at the moment. They're now building Pride Centers with the government money to protect the LGBT community. So now the Progressivism, they're building their own sexually perverted church with our own tax money called Pride Centers. So Melbourne is like California. They had rubber bullets, bazooka tanks on the street, attacking peaceful protesters for wanting to go to work. And not just that on the tanks. I love progressives. They're very good at manipulation. They wrote on the tanks, rescue vehicle.
Ali Stuckey
Oh, my gosh.
Andrew Cedra
So thanks.
Ali Stuckey
So Orwellian. Like the Ministry of Truth in charge of propaganda.
Andrew Cedra
We nearly had that, and it didn't pass. A few months ago, a misinformation bill where the government was going to pass.
Ali Stuckey
Something like that for a while. Right.
Andrew Cedra
Where it's gonna pass, I think, if. If we keep. If we take one more step towards progressivism in Australia with Trump being in charge. They're very scared of Donald Trump. They are so scared.
Ali Stuckey
Like, our prime minister should buy Australia.
Andrew Cedra
Dude, I'm ready. I kind of tagged President Trump, like, please, can you invade us, please. Because the Muslims, the Muslims are going to invade us. And the lgbq, abc, they are already indoctrinating us. I'm like, hey dude, lower tax, freedom of speech, first Amendment, second Amendment, I can go to church and worship Jesus. Less restrictions on business and operating. I'm like, I'm ready. I don't see why not.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, yeah, come on.
Andrew Cedra
I was like, please Donald Trump come and take us.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, that's amazing. I would be happy about that.
Andrew Cedra
Yeah. Well, people don't say colonization is not a feature. Colonization is a fact. At the moment, what's going to happen to the world? You're either getting colonized by Islamic or you're getting colonized by the one World order was progressivism. The reality is something is all about China. Something is getting colonized. So yeah, whether you like it or not, colonization is not a feature of life. Yeah, it's a fact. And America, you have seen, you guys have seen the World Economic Forum and the global elites, they have been trying to colonize you from the outside from a very long time. And thank the Lord, a populist nationalist movement. One, because we do not want godless globalism which is tyrannical or violent. Islam.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
Which are the two enemies, I believe, of America and the West.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you mentioned, you mentioned China and I was just thinking as you were talking about like how strange it is that somehow China, these Middle Eastern Islamic dominated countries, progressives, the one World Order, how somehow they all unite, but really as you said, the common thread is.
Andrew Cedra
Antichrist and what they don't. America is an exceptional country. And I know a lot of people say, how dare you say that? I'm like, no, I've lived in the Middle East, I've lived in Australia, the first and second Amendment, it's a gift from God. It is not normal that a country like how crazy is it like the three countries in the world ever with constitutional freedom of speech and only America is the one that doesn't have the condition of hate speech. Yeah, what a coincidence that the only country in the world was constitutional freedom of speech. Like, we're so progressive, we're so smart, Enlightenment science, yet somehow we don't have freedom of speech codified. Progressives are very funny because progressive don't lead history to learn, they read history to critique. So every time they look like that racist white man, I'm like, that's you actually. You are what you hate. They don't know that. But how crazy that America is the only country in the world that has freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of religion, and freedom of press codified. The reality is America is the one holding the line. The reason I'm here three months a year is because, man, we need America to be strong. Because what is enabling you as a pastor to not get arrested yet is people like you, people like the conservative movement, the Christian conservatives that are fighting the good fight, and people like Donald Trump who are using their God given power. Turn the west back to reality.
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Andrew Cedra
I'm here again in May, so we can do next one lgbtq.
Ali Stuckey
But I would give a good response and reaction to a couple crazy clips that we have of how churches are. Some churches are in the United states. Let's play SOT9 and see what you have to say.
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Jesus is polyamorous. If you're one of those Christians who believes in the importance of a personal relationship with Jesus, well, Jesus is having personal relationships with billions of other people too. He's kind of a relationship slut. An empowered, reclaimed sort of slut. Repeatedly, Paul reminds us that Jesus gave himself for us. Us, the church, which Paul describes as the whole body of believers in this marriage. Jesus isn't married to one person. He's married to the Entire body of believers. Jesus is in a pansexual, polyamorous relationship. Relationship with us. And so of course Christians can be polyamorous. That's a biblical model of relationship.
Ali Stuckey
Okay. He actually said Jesus is a slut at one point.
Andrew Cedra
What the heck is that?
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
That's so weird. Look, the lgbtq, it's a sex cult. That's my reaction. It's a sex cult. God created us to love people, worship him and use sex. What the LGBQ sex cult does, and we are in the midst of it. We have what you call in Australia, gay communism, where it's illegal to pray for a gay person with their consent. As a pastor, I can go to jail or get fined if I have this conversation. So if you're gay and I'm talking to you like that now, you can right now report me to the Human Rights Commission.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
And you will take me to court with a case around half a million dollars to $1 million. And I can land in jail for three to five years or our church will get fined $100,000 for me pushing my ideas on you and trying to convert you.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah. That's anti conversion.
Andrew Cedra
Anti conversion. And this is again, leftists don't use language to communicate. They use language to manipulate. This is the funny thing about the bill. They are the one transing the kids and converting them from a man to a woman. But they're projecting it on you. So this is the funny. I'm not doing any conversion. I'm telling the kid, hey, you're not gay. Nature tells you you can have babies when you get married, male and female, you don't need to cut your body parts. You just need to get your soul right with God. And then they tell you, no, you're the one performing the conversion. I'm like, like, no, it. So they always project. It's all projection. It's the self righteous Pharisee. So, and this is the reality, all my conservatives who are pro gay marriage, you have already crossed the line. Like, I think the gay marriage debate needs to come back. Because if marriage is not for a lifetime divorce, six years. If marriage is not between a man and a woman, and it's a man and man, a man and a woman. A woman. Why cannot marriage be between a man and a donkey?
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
There is no line like this is once you. Today's progressive is yesterday's. Today's conservative is yesterday's progressive, and tomorrow's conservative is today's progressive. So the problem you're facing for the conservative movement, they need to have a line. And that line has to be the Bible, because this sounds crazy. It's not going to be crazy in 10 years. At the moment, we had a green politician, Greens like our Communist party, who are trying to justify women who are single, who can't get married, having sex with their dogs. What we, we actually had that on national tv, the ABC product podcast. He's like, we need to have. He was. I love the left. We need to have a conversation every time. Let's have a conversation. And it was about, why can't a single lady perform oral sex with her dog if she is lonely? That was on tv. So the, the. We are in Australia. There is no line. People have to understand. There is. Because I never thought we'll live in a moment which can say men can get pregnant. I never thought, like, like, if you said that to me 10 years ago, like, you're crazy. You're crazy.
Ali Stuckey
You say that to most of the world today. They say that you're crazy.
Andrew Cedra
Yeah. But the issue is I, it will be normalized because the line which is biblical Christianity.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah.
Andrew Cedra
Is gone.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in the non western world, you know, like the Muslim world, they obviously get a lot wrong. But if you asked them, can a man get pregnant, they would, I don't know, maybe kill you, but certainly laughing.
Andrew Cedra
You will be pregnant in heaven or hell. Yeah.
Ali Stuckey
Oh, my goodness. This was great. I could talk to you for a lot longer, but I know we've got to get out of here. Thank you so much. Thank you for the honor, support you, follow you all that good stuff.
Andrew Cedra
Hey, follow me on Instagram, Facebook, all social media platforms. Andrew Cedra, YouTube. Our church is Echo Church in Sydney. We have people that travel two hours away to come to our church. When the word of the Lord is rare, people travel a lot. I also read the story of Jesus. Why did people travel three hours to come hear Jesus Now? Figure out the gospel is very powerful and when you speak the truth, people will travel. So if you live in Sydney, Australia, I don't know, it's a very lonely place. We are a minority. Three out of 10 people are an advised Christian. So we're in a very, very dark space. And half of them are liberal. So 1.5% of people. So we don't. One out of ten people are Christian. You feel like a minority. You can come to church. Make sure you come and check us out and stay out. I might need you at some point. If or when they decide to arrest me for what I say.
Ali Stuckey
Yeah, for real. We'll be ready to share the arrows. Well, thank you so much.
Andrew Cedra
Especially thank you for the honor, Ali.
Podcast Summary: Ep 1127 | The Islam-LGBTQ Alliance Taking Over the West — and Targeting Christianity
Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
Host: Allie Beth Stuckey
Guest: Pastor Andrew Sedra
Release Date: January 22, 2025
Network: Blaze Podcast Network
In Episode 1127 of Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey, host Allie Beth Stuckey engages in a profound discussion with Pastor Andrew Sedra from Australia. The conversation delves into the perceived alliance between Islam, the progressive LGBTQ lobby, and even atheist communism, which Sedra describes as an "unholy alliance" targeting Christianity in the West. They explore how this alliance has gained momentum, its implications for the future, and the role Christians should play in addressing these challenges.
Andrew Sedra asserts that Islam and progressive movements, including the LGBTQ lobby and leftist ideologies, are collectively working to undermine Christian values in the West. He states, “Islam hates Christianity and that's why Islam hates America” (19:51) and further draws parallels between progressive leftism and violent Islamic ideologies, suggesting they share authoritarian and totalitarian tendencies.
Key Points:
Sedra criticizes what he perceives as the feminization of the church leadership, arguing that it has made the church less appealing to conservative men. He mentions, “the church is feminized, where we value love without truth, empathy without courage” (04:45). This shift, according to Sedra, has alienated many men, leading them to seek alternative figures like Andrew Tate.
Key Points:
The conversation shifts to Andrew Tate, a controversial figure who epitomizes a form of masculinity that Sedra believes resonates with conservative men disillusioned by the current church dynamics. Sedra describes Tate as “a little boy that pretends to be a man” (08:08), highlighting his perceived lack of genuine masculine virtues such as love and self-control.
Key Points:
Sedra discusses the concept of colonization, framing it as a dual threat from Islamic ideologies and the progressive left. He states, “Colonization is not a feature of life. Yeah, it's a fact” (35:01), emphasizing the inevitable influence these forces have on Western societies.
Key Points:
Australia serves as a case study for Sedra, illustrating how progressive policies and Islamic influences are reshaping society. He describes stringent COVID-19 measures, likening government actions to “abusive mom” behavior, and criticizes the introduction of anti-conversion therapy laws.
Key Points:
In addressing LGBTQ issues, Sedra labels the movement as a "sex cult" and characterizes it as inherently linked to progressive and authoritarian ideologies. He argues that progressive policies undermine traditional Christian values and sexual morality.
Key Points:
Both hosts express concern over the future trajectory of Western societies, emphasizing the need for Christians to reclaim and uphold biblical values to counteract the perceived threats from Islam and progressive ideologies.
Key Points:
Andrew Sedra on Feminization of the Church:
“We value love without truth, empathy without courage... the feminization of the church where leadership is the problem.”
04:45
On Andrew Tate’s Appeal:
“Andrew Tate is like a little boy that pretends to be a man... he lacks true Christian virtues like love and self-control.”
08:08
On Islam’s Threat to Christianity:
“Islam is a one world order totalitarian ideology that pretends to be a religion... Islam hates Christianity because Islam hates freedom.”
16:15
Regarding Progressive Policies in Australia:
“We had the longest lockdowns in the world... you couldn't go to church to worship Jesus.”
28:30
On Colonization:
“Colonization is not a feature of life. Yeah, it's a fact... Islam and the progressive left are the two enemies of America and the West.”
35:01
The episode concludes with a brief discussion on LGBTQ-related content and a selection of provocative clips, which both hosts address from their conservative Christian perspectives. They express a strong stance against progressive interpretations of Christianity and affirm their commitment to preserving traditional Christian values in the face of mounting societal pressures.
Final Thoughts:
This summary encapsulates the key discussions and viewpoints presented in Episode 1127 of Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey. The conversation reflects a conservative Christian perspective on the interplay between Islam, progressive ideologies, and their impact on Western societies.