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Ep 1129 | Selena Gomez Sobs Over Deportations of Terrorists
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Ryan Reynolds
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Ali Stuckey
Payment required equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first 3 month plan only. Taxes and fees, extra Speed slower above 40 GB on unlimited. See mintmobile.com for details. Did Katanji Brown Jackson practice witchcraft at President Trump's inauguration? We'll get into that, but first we've got to look at some amazing pro life news. Donald Trump is winning so much, especially in this regard. So we'll take a look at his pardons. But also we will be debunking some of the toxic empathy myths that you are hearing from progressives and so called progressive Christians when it comes to immigration and deportation. We've got so, so much to discuss on today's episode of Relatable. It is brought to you by our friends at Good ranchers. Go to good ranchers.com use code ALI at checkout. That's good ranchers.com code ALLY hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day, a wonderful week so far, as I like to remind us sometimes on Mondays, is that God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch. Whatever is happening personally, professionally, politically, God is in total control. And as Elizabeth Elliot used to say, the only thing you have to do today is the will of God. And I like to add on to that. If you don't know what that is, just do the next right thing in faith, with excellence, and for the glory of God. God is so good that he gives us his Holy Spirit as a helper, that he gives us His Word as a lamp into our feet and a light unto our path, that we get to be friends with him through Christ. And so no matter what is going on in your life or in the world today, the fact that we have Jesus, who is the same yesterday, today and forever, Hebrews 13, 8, that is where we derive our joy. But we also happen to be living in a pretty good time in America right now. I was recording my episode last week from Washington, D.C. it was so cool to be there while Trump was being inaugurated. I mean, I wasn't actually at the ceremony, but the atmosphere in D.C. as you know, it is a deeply blue City. It was a sea of red. And not just, I don't just mean red as the representation of Republicans, but literal red MAGA hats were everywhere. I was at a restaurant. This was the night of the inauguration. We were just at a. An Italian restaurant in Georgetown. Chief related bro and I, and table off to the side started singing Happy Birthday to someone at their table. And for whatever reason, after Happy Birthday was sung, another person, not at that table in the middle of the restaurant, just yelled, america's back, baby. And the whole restaurant erupted in Trump cheers. Okay, so that's what was happening in Georgetown, a very posh and liberal suburb of D.C. last week. And the entire week was like that. Like, every museum, every place that we went was just filled with these exuberant Trump supporters. And so that felt like being a part of history, even if I didn't go to the actual inauguration ceremony. And so I'm, I'm glad. I'm glad to be back. As much as I liked DC it smells like pot everywhere. That is the bad thing. It smells. All the liberals inside their home as they were mourning Trump becoming president, I guess they were smoking weed and they were trying to comfort themselves with that, and it was seeping onto the streets. It really does smell like weed everywhere. And the only other bad thing that happened is that I was at the airport and someone brought their pit bull on, not onto my plane, because I would have. I don't know. You would have already known about it because I would have made the news. It. No, I saw it in the airport. I can't. First of all, I can't believe the dogs are just, like, allowed in all of these places anyway. But a pit bull, there are so many things that should be illegal with that. And as I'm about to read you some of the executive orders that Trump has already signed, I am, I am petitioning with any political capital that I have that he will also sign an executive order banning dogs on airplanes. Unless you are blind or something and just pit bulls in general. You can send me your hate mail. That's fine. You can send me your mean comments. I don't care. I thrive on them. I hope that President Trump, in addition to all the awesome things that he's already done, I hope that he bans pit bulls once and for all. He. He hasn't done that, but he has done these things before. We get into some of my favorite accomplishments over the past week or so. I just want to give, like, bullet point highlights of things that Trump has signed via executive order and measures that he has taken, his administration has already taken in making America awesome like Trump 2.0 is amazing. Way better than Trump 1.0. I love it. He issued an executive order recognizing two genders, male and female on official documents. Prohibited the use of so called gender identity or preferred pronouns in federal agencies. Thank the Lord. Again, very sad that this has to be explicitly stated. He said it in his inaugural address that there are only two genders, male and female. Like what a dystopian, sad society that we live in today that the President of the United States has to declare that in his inauguration. And yet clarity is something that I will always be grateful for. Trump abolished DEI programs within the federal government. They are working very hard to make sure that this is the meritocracy that it should be. Trump issued an executive order mandating that so called transgender women inmates. So those are men pretending to be women who have declared themselves women be housed in men's facilities based on their biological sex. Of course, I wouldn't say biological sex because there's only one kind of sex and that is biological, their sex at birth rather than their so called gender identity. We've told many true harrowing stories of these men who say that they're women, they are transferred into women's prisons and then as Kamala Harris very openly advocated for on the taxpayer dime, they get to go through so called gender transition. But interestingly, they very rarely get castrated. And so they are still assaulting and raping these poor vulnerable women in the women's prisons and federally funded facilities. So thank the Lord, Trump has protected women, all of you people out there. So Trump hates women. Well, he literally just took male sex offenders who identify as women out of women's prisons back into male prisons. Yeah, he is protecting women more so than all of you fake feminists out there who are for these male pedophiles and rapists who identify as women being in women's prisons. The IRONY Trump pardoned 23 pro life activists. We're going to get into this more today that were charged in violation of the Face Act. We will explain that in just a bit. As well as roughly 1500 people who were charged in connection with the January 6th Capitol riot. I don't have time to get into all of that. I know that there was a lot of like disagreement even on the conservative side about whether this was right because some of these people were violent. Look, the charges in the prosecution went too far. In all of these cases, those people who are truly bad people, who are truly violent criminals, they will get caught doing something else at some point. But this was political prosecution. And the same accountability was not offered for or was not given to BLM rioters and antifa and those who destroyed cities in the summer of love in 2020. And so we're hoping for impartiality here. So he did pardon those January six writers. I think that was the right thing to do, especially when you look at some of the people that Biden had just pardoned. He issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants. Or it did end it. That's what it is aiming to do. And we will see how that goes. You've got a lot of people who are upset about that. But birthright citizenship incentivizes people to come here illegally and then give birth. And we should take away that incentive. We should take away every incentive that someone has to come here illegally. He signed an executive order ordering the attorney general to pursue death penalty for all crimes of a severity demanding its use, including the murder of law enforcement officers and capital crimes committed by an alien illegally present in this country. I mean, all capital murder. And I think instances of rape, I think should demand the death penalty. Especially when you're talking about child rape. I think that people should get the death penalty for that. Absolutely. But this is a step in the right direction. He left the Paris climate agreement. It's great. It was an unfair deal for Americans to have to be paying for. And he announced his intent to withdraw the US from the who. Again, that's good. We don't want to be under control of the WHO. Trump signed an executive order to freeze nearly all US foreign aid for 90 days and mandated a comprehensive review of foreign assistance programs to ensure alignment with policy goals. Again, I think that's a good thing. You've probably heard the saying before, and it absolutely rings true, that foreign aid is money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. It doesn't actually get down to the people in poor countries who really need it. It just lines the pockets of their corrupt leaders. So at the very least, a comprehensive review is what we should do. Now let's get into more details about him pardoning pro lifers, because this is amazing, amazing news. We've talked to one those pro lifers who was imprisoned, unrelatable Herb Garrity, who was just released, and just praise God for that. So let's get into that a little bit more. Let me pause and tell you about our first sponsor for the day. First, and that is we Heart Nutrition Y'all, I love we heart nutrition chief related bro and I both take their supplements because now it's not just women's vitamins that they make, it's also men's vitamins too. And if you don't know what your supplement regimen should be, you should go to we hard nutrition.com and you should take their 22nd quiz. You, you know, tell them a little bit about, like, what your health is, what your age is, what your stage of life is, and they can recommend the best, best vitamins for you. I take their postnatals. I take their Omega 3s, I take their magnesium. It's all really good. I take their iron supplement, which has been a game changer for me. All easy on the stomach. And I feel really good knowing that it is actually being absorbed by my body because all ingredients come in the most bioavailable form. Christian conservative company, they love God, they love America. Unapologetic about that. It's a win all around. Go to weheartnutrition.com use code ALI for 20 off your order weheartnutrition.com code ALI during the campaign, we talked a lot about the Biden administration, the DOJ prosecuting pro lifers who obstructed the entrance of a clinic under something called the FACE Act. And it's a rather obscure law. It was signed into law by Bill Clinton, but most of us hadn't heard about it until it was weaponized. It was used against these pro lifers who do not commit violence, by the way, but they did obstruct the entrance to a murder mill. This is called the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances act, or FACE Act. Trump's DOJ sent a memo last Friday pledging to end the weaponization of the FACE Act. And he pardoned the 23 pro life protesters who had been prosecuted under this law. Here's him doing that.
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Donald Trump
In Salt 1, 23 people were prosecuted. They should not have been prosecuted. Many of them are elderly people. They should not have been prosecuted. This is a great honor to sign this.
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Ali Stuckey
Okay, let me tell you a little bit more about these people. Not all 23 of them, unfortunately. I just don't have time to tell you about all of their heroism, but I'll tell you about some of them. Lauren Handy is a young woman who is a part of the group that recovered the 115 human remains from an abortion facility in Washington, D.C. they had been protesting there. There was a medical was truck outside the clinic and the guy, the medical waste management guy, didn't know what kind of trash he was taking away or what material he was taking away. And so Lauren Handy and some other pro life activists asked if they could have the, the what he was. The material, the waste. I, I hate saying trash because these are actually human beings. But he thought that it was just trash. So they asked if they could have these bags. And when they opened them at home, they found full term babies. Five were full term. And you probably remember at the time the news about this. Pro life organizations like Live Action reported on this. They were called the Washington Five. And maybe you saw the gruesome pictures. There was one little picture of this baby that had been aborted probably around 30 weeks gestation, whose eye was still open but whose skull had been crushed by the brutal abortion procedure. And so understandably, they were incensed. They were devastated by what they saw. And from my understanding, and someone tell me if I'm not understanding the timeline of events correctly, but this is what inspired them to protest again in front of the clinic and try to obstruct the, obstruct the entrance. And just think about what the previous administration represented. They represented calling evil good and good evil. That they didn't prosecute the people who had crushed the skulls of living babies inside their mother's womb. They didn't investigate to see if they were actually performing what it looked like, which was actually an illegal abortion that is used or used to be legally used in the third trimester called a dnx where you literally deliver the baby and you suck the brain out while they're still alive. It's horrible. I hate to even say that, but that is what abortion is in some cases. And so the Biden administration didn't look into that, didn't investigate that? No, they didn't look into the murders at all. Instead they actually prosecuted the people that tried to stop the murder, including Gene Marshall, a 74 year old, Joan Bell, a 76 year old, John Hinshaw, a 69 year old. All of these were prosecuted under the Face Act. And then bevelin Williams, a 33 year old mom of a toddler, she was a part of, I understand, another event where she was blocking the entrance to an abortion clinic and she was sentenced to three and a half years in federal prison for face act violations and quote unquote, unlawful assembly. She was preaching the gospel outside an abortion clinic and she allegedly was blocking the door which led to accidentally injuring a clinic worker. She claimed that this was not on purpose, she wasn't trying to be violent, she was just trying to stop people from going into this murder mill. But thankfully, praise God, she was pardoned by President Trump and here she is reuniting with her family. You've got to watch this. If you're just listening, you've got to watch it on YouTube. This is so sweet. Praise God. S2 look, look, look, look at mama. Look at mama.
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Donald Trump
Look at us.
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Ali Stuckey
Guys. I couldn't even watch that. I had to look down because I was gonna start sobbing and if I started sobbing, then I wasn't going to be able to continue doing this podcast. Just praise, praise God for that. I'm, I'm so thankful. And you know, some people are saying, oh, I can't. This is, you know, not allowing people to be held accountable by the law. This isn't law and order. I mean, these, these same people had nothing to say about Biden's pardons. Right before he left office, he granted pardons and commutations to more than 8,000 individuals, which is more than any other modern president by far. He also commuted the sentence of 37 out of 40 inmates on federal death row, bringing their sentences now to life without parole rather than the death penalty. Let me give you an example of someone who is now not going to see the justice that according to the Bible, he deserved. Thomas Stephen Sanders. He was sentenced to death for the kidnapping and murder of a 12 year old little girl in Louisiana. Biden said, nope, you don't have to have the death penalty anymore. Richard Allen Jackson. He was convicted of the kidnapping, rape and murder of a 22 year old jogger in Asheville, North Carolina. Okay. His sentence commuted, the Biden administration released 11, 11 terrorists from Guantanamo Bay, including two suspected bodyguards of Osama bin Laden. Also, Khalid Sheikh Moham Muhammad and two other architects of the 911 attacks will avoid the death penalty as a result of a Biden administration plea deal. So, like, I just want to show you the contrast of who Trump is versus who Biden is. And if you're saying, oh my gosh, these pardons, they're so bad, I can't believe these pro lifers or January 6th protesters that they're not getting punished anymore, that they're not getting the punishment that they deserve, like, where were you literally two weeks ago? I say yes and amen to Trump pardoning these pro lifers. I, I mean, when you compare that to the people that Biden decided to give grace to, who should have been given the just end of capital punishment. No, don't tell me that you care about justice, that you are worried about accountability and the rule of law. Just, just say that you don't like Trump and you allow anti Trump media to dictate your compassion and your outrage. Just admit that. Trump is also doing many other things in the way of pro life advocacy that I'm very thankful for. He revived the Mexico City policy that basically stops our tax dollars from funding organizations abroad that promote or perform abortions. He is reinstating, he intends to reinstate the Hyde Amendment or he had an. Let me say that differently. The second executive order that he signed in this regard further cements the Hyde Amendment so that bans federal funding for abortion. Biden, Kamala Harris were very much against the Hyde Amendment. Even though Biden at one time was for the Hyde Amendment, he was never successful, I guess, in overturning it. But that was a campaign promise of Kamala Harris. She said, no, your tax dollars, we will force your tax dol to pay for abortion. So abortion specifically for poor women who have to rely on welfare to get abortions. Kamala Harris wanted to make sure that your tax dollars would be forced to pay for the dismembering of poor babies. And Trump says, nope, that's not going to, that's not going to happen. Again, just the contrast here. In response to Dobbs v. Jackson, President Biden's Department of Health and Human Services established a government website called reproductive rights.gov to provide resources and information to people about abortion, to make sure that they can travel for abortion, to make sure that they can get the cost covered for abortion. While Trump's administration took that website down on Inauguration Day, it is no longer accessible. Also, we had Vice President Vance speak at the March for Life. We had President Trump give an amazing video message to the marchers that we will play in just a second. Second, let me pause. Tell you about our next sponsor for the day. And it's a very appropriate sponsor for what we're talking about now. And that is preborn. They're an incredible network of clinics across the country that exist to give women resources to help them choose life. One of the the biggest game changers that they provide is a free sonogram for these women. When these women see their little babies inside the womb, when they hear that heartbeat, they are so much more likely to choose life. And they also offer an abortion pill reversal. And I have met little babies who are alive because their mom regretted taking the abortion pill. They walked into a pro life clinic, they got the abortion pill reversal pill, and their babies were able to survive. Preborn clinics also offer that. It's absolutely amazing. But the only way they're able to offer these things is through your generous donation. So if you want to be a part of saving babies, even though great things are happening politically, unfortunately evil, sadness, brokenness still exists. And so women will still be seeking abortions. And they need Christians to step up and to help them and love them and provide for them. So you can do that through preborn. If you go to preborn.comali preborn.com Ali you can donate there to your tax deductible donation. Preborn.com Ali alright, so Vice President Vance is only the second sitting Vice President to address the March for Life. Mike Pence did. And now it's JD Vance. Donald Trump addressed the Mark March for Life in person in 2020 satellite. Before that, only Trump, Bush and Reagan. They're the only ones that have addressed the March for Life. Isn't that kind of incredible? Because this is the 52nd, I believe, the 52nd March for Life. Only three presidents have addressed the crowd. Isn't that amazing? And Trump was one of them. Okay, here we've got Vance's speech or part of Vance's speech at the march.
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Ryan Reynolds
SOT3, thank you for having me. And it is an honor to be standing with you here today for life. We are proud to march with you. And yes, we will be back next year. We march to protect the unborn. We march to proclaim and live out the sacred truth that every single child is a miracle and a gift from God. Our society has failed to recognize the obligation that one generation has to another is a core part of living in a society to begin with. So let me say very simply, I want more babies in the United States of America.
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Ali Stuckey
Yes, and amen. I mean, as we will talk about more in a little bit. Such a perfect pick for Donald Trump. I think everyone is excited about J.D. vance's political future. Here is part of Trump's message to the March for Life marchers. Stop four.
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Donald Trump
Thank you for turning out once again to show your extraordinary love and compassion for the unborn. Each year, Americans of every age, color and background travel to our nation's capital by the tens of thousands to stand up for precious little babies who cannot stand up for themselves. We will work to offer a loving hand to new mothers and young families. And we will support adoption and foster care. We will protect women and vulnerable children.
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Ali Stuckey
His New York accent really came out there. Foster care. I was so glad. And he knew, I mean, whoever helped him write this new not to bring up something like ivf, because some people think that that's part of the pro life conversation, but he's talking to a lot of pro life evangelicals and Catholics there who do not support that, but do support adoption and foster care. Also talked about bringing those who have attacked churches and crisis pregnancy centers to justice. I mean, praise God. Again, just the partiality that was showed toward wickedness by the Biden administration, it's really being rectified now by the Trump administration. And I appreciate that so much. All right. Now let's talk about immigration, because I've gotten a lot of messages from y'all about your friends who are posting about the devastating effects of Trump's presidency on the immigration population in the United States. And we are seeing my warning and the warning of many others, too, I'm sure, come to fruition when it comes to the response and the propaganda that we are receiving that we are being bombarded with on this subject. I said sometime last year, I don't remember, I guess it was probably after the election that you are about to get for the next several months and the next several years, a whole lot of toxic empathy, especially on the subject of immigration. They are going to show you the crying mother of three who is here illegally and who has worked hard and who is facing deportation and is scared because of Donald Trump's draconian, anti illegal immigration policies. And they are going to pull at your heartstrings. They're going to punch you in the gut and they are going to tell you if you are a good person, if you have any humanity, if you have any compassion, if you have any empathy for this woman, you will stand strong against the authoritarian, anti Christian, anti love regime of Donald Trump who is doing this cruel thing of making people who are here, they won't even say here illegally. They'll call them asylum seekers or refugees, making them leave. They'll call it racist. But even more than that, they will certainly call it heartless and mean. What the media will not show you is the other side of the moral equation. The media will not remind you of Lake and Riley. They will not remind you of Kate Steinle. They will not remind you of Molly Tibbets. They will not show you the gang members that are being deported back to Colombia. They will not show you the rapists and the other sex offenders and the murderers and the gang members that are being sent back to various parts of Mexico and South America and Haiti and the Middle East. They won't show you those. They will pick and choose their purported victims. And they will tell you that is the entire story. And they will use that to emotionally manipulate you. But remember, Christians are not called to toxic empathy. We are not called primarily to empathy at all. Empathy feels how someone feels. But Christians are called to love. And love is inextricably intertwined with the truth. Remember 1st Corinthians 13:6. Love never rejoices in wrongdoing. It rejoices with the truth. The God who is love, 1st John 4, 8, is also the source of truth. And his Word is a really good guide for what is morally right when it comes to all things, but including when it comes to immigration. And it is not as easy as, well, I feel bad for this person. If I feel bad for this person is how you make policy decisions. You will make really, really and destructive, harmful policy decisions. Okay, so I'll give you some examples from my book in just a minute. But let me back up and tell you what's happening on immigration that I think is a really, really good thing and makes our country better and is just and righteous and actually compassionate. So an ICE report. ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement. From September 2024 indicated there are approximately 425, 425,000 convicted criminals living in the US illegally. So illegal beyond just coming here the wrong way, they've also been convicted of other crimes, many times violent crimes. This figure includes individuals convicted of assault, sexual assault, crimes involving dangerous drugs like fentanyl. You'll notice that these caravans that you see coming through Mexico, usually from South America, that most of them are military agents, men, they don't look starving, they all are well dressed, they all have their iPhones. And I'm not saying that they're all coming here to commit heinous crimes. But even if one of them is, that's enough. And even if none of them are, they still don't have a right to be here, okay? Because we're a country. And a country has sovereignty and a sovereign country has borders. You know, you have to have that to have citizenship, right? In order for your citizenship to matter. Matter and therefore your rights as a citizen to matter. You know that a country has to have borders and sovereignties, right? Or sovereignty, right? Because if it doesn't, then the country doesn't exist and your rights dissolve because they don't have any meaning, because they don't have anyone to protect or enforce them. So here's what I said on X just the other day. The total arrests of illegal aliens from January 23 to January 26, 2323, 73 to be exact. And they've also clarified this for the record, targeted enforcement operations. So this is like gathering these illegal aliens up, deporting them. Are planned arrests of known criminal aliens who threaten national security or public safety. Violent gang members arrested on Sunday. Nearly 50 illegal aliens were taken into custody during a raid targeting drug trafficking and Venezuelan gang members members in Colorado, according to the dea. You remember this when we talked about Trende Aragua, the very dangerous Venezuelan gang that had basically taken over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, and they were like, oh no, this isn't happening. And then Vance did that interview and the interviewer was like, it's only a handful of apartment complexes. And he was like, do you hear yourself? A handful of apartment complexes in the United States of America have been taken over by a gang of illegal aliens from Venezuela. And you think that that's all right, that's not a justification. So apparently a lot of those guys out of here, praise God. Other examples of ICE arrest of violent aliens this week. According to The Boston Herald, 25 year old Haitian national. I don't even know how to pronounce his his name. But he was arrested by ICE agents last week in their first raid of the Boston area. He was convicted more than a dozen times before being taken into custody on Wednesday. And here is a video of him saying, I'm not going back. Top five, I'm not going back to Haiti.
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Ryan Reynolds
One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti. Ice says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years.
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Ali Stuckey
You feel me?
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Donald Trump
Yo, Biden forever, bro.
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Ali Stuckey
Take Obama for everything that he did for me, bro. Did you hear that? He said, thank Obama for everything he did for me, bro. And I'm not going back to Haiti. Well, it looks like you are because you have been arrested and you are saying that from the back of the cop car. So because I love my neighbor, I want that person gone. Because I love the most vulnerable people in this country. I don't want that person here. Because I love the country in which God has providentially placed me, whose welfare I pray for and seek as I am called to do. I support exactly what Trump is doing here because I want those people gone. I want my community safe. I want the children in poor communities especially that are hardest hit by that, by this. I want them safe. There was another illegal alien, Julio Cesar Diaz Martinez. He was arrested on January 23 for sex trafficking and overstaying his visa, which means, by the way, because he had a visa, he was vetted and technically legal, but he overstayed. So then he became illegal and he was a sex trafficker. Then we have Jose Roberto Rodriguez, or urbina, and alleged Ms. 13 gang member. He was arrested on January 22nd for overstaying his terms of admission to the US he has wanted in El Salvador on extortion charges. So those are just a few. Just a few of the illegal aliens, the very dangerous people who have been deported. Praise God. J.D. vance was asked about some of their immigration law enforcement that has occurred over the past week on Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan. She brought up the fact that some Afghan, she would call them refugees, some of them legitimately are refugees, are now being sent back home. And she said, you know, some of these people are people who helped us during the Afghanistan crisis a few years ago, the debacle. And I just, it's like that meme of that, like, goose chasing the person. Like, like, like, who caused that? Like, who caused that debacle? Like, who caused the disaster in Afghanistan that made these poor Afghans have to come over to the United States? Of course, the answer is Joe Biden. She didn't go into that. But anyway, that's what they're talking about here. And she calls all of these people asylum seekers and says they've all been vetted. Why do they have to go home? And J.D. vance has a response to that. Here is Satsang.
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Ryan Reynolds
Well, Margaret, I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted and then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our country that happened during the campaign, if you may remember. I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted. And because I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens kids to do that either.
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Ali Stuckey
No. And that was a very particular case. It wasn't clear if he was rational, radicalized when he got here or while he was living.
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Ryan Reynolds
I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person in my country. And I think most Americans agree with me.
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Ali Stuckey
Yeah. So that kind of became the meme yesterday that became the rallying cry. It's like, make America great again. And then, I don't really care, Margaret. That's. Now we need, like, we need hats and we need T shirts that when Vance runs for office in four years, I don't really care, Margaret needs to be on the red hats that he sells. It's like, okay, like, let's, let's tussle about the details of whether this terrorist was radicalized in the United States or whether he was radicalized back home, it doesn't matter. Like, he's got to go home. That's the point. He also made another good point about immigration policy here in South 6.
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Ryan Reynolds
I think the President is to be commended for actually coming in and doing something with this incredible mandate the American people gave him. He's not sitting in the Oval Office doing nothing. He's doing the American people's business. And I think they're going to see a lot of good effects from it. This is a very unique country and it was founded by some immigrants and some settlers. But just because we were founded by immigrants doesn't mean that 240 years later that we have to have the dumbest immigration policy in the world. No country says that temporary visitors, their children will be given complete access to the benefits and blessings of American citizenship.
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Ali Stuckey
Okay, I think that every high school teacher should play that clip when you're talking about logic and argumentation and fallacies because he pointed it out so perfectly. She tried to make the argument, well, we're a nation of immigrants. Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant. Okay, so we should allow ms.13 gang members to like, take over apartment complexes in Colorado. Like, can you track with me, Margaret? Like, I'm trying to square that circle and you're not explaining it. But he did a perfect job of going straight into the argument. Just because we had immigrants 250 years ago doesn't mean we have to have the world's dumbest immigration policy today. That was a perfect way of saying that. And if they were ever made to explain their connection, the logical connection that they're making, okay, Because Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant, like, we need to have open borders today. Logically. Take me there. Like, make the argument. The burden of proof should be on them. They are making the absurd claim that basically, functionally, we should not have borders and we should would not have any specifications or parameters at all when it comes to immigration policy. I just want to clarify some things when it comes to asylum seekers, because you hear this term interchangeably with illegal immigrants. You will be seeing a lot of videos from people saying, these are all refugees, these are people seeking asylum and they're being deported. That is not what is happening. People who are here legally as refugees are not being rounded up and deported and neither are are asylum seekers, but one. Even for asylum seekers and refugees, asylum seekers. Let me give you the actual definition. Same criteria as refugee. According to the dhs, a person who is unable or Unwilling to return to his or her country of nationality because of persecution or a well founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion. Okay, so that is the actual definition. It is not just someone who leaves a less rich country for the richer country of the United States. It's not just someone who wants to work. It's not just someone who wants a better life. It's not just someone who wants their kid to be a citizen. It's not just someone who doesn't like living where they live or doesn't see a whole lot of opportunity there. I don't blame those people for wanting to come to an, to come to a country like America. But that doesn't make them an asylum seeker. It doesn't make them a refugee. It makes them a migrant or an immigrant. And there are legal ways to go about becoming a citizen of the United States or trying to work here legally. But not everyone who shows up at the border and says that they're seeking asylum actually qualifies for that. And even if they do, there has to be a certain number of asylum seekers and refugees that we take every year. And America, traditionally compared to the rest of the world, is insanely generous, insanely accessible, insanely open to those who are true refugees and asylum seekers. And by the way, we also take tons and tons of legal immigrants, immigrants every year, more than the vast majority of countries. But again, as we've talked about, for some reason America is seen as having this moral obligation to accept anyone and everyone without any vetting that no one expects of Zimbabwe, no one expects of, of Japan. But for some reason, America and many Western European nations, because, I don't know, we, we have to pay reparations for supposed sins of our past. We're supposed to allow everyone in, and if we don't, it's some form of bigotry. So not everyone who is an illegal immigrant is an asylum seeker or refugee. Even if you are an asylum seeker or a refugee, there's only a certain number of those that any country can allow in. And that's fine. That is just good immigration policy. We can have a debate on how many that should be, like, what the limit should be. But there has to be some kind of limit. Not everyone has a right to go into a country just because they want to. And again, countries have the right, the responsibility, to care for the citizens of their country first. In the same way that you care about your kids more than you care about my kids more than you care about your Neighbor's kids. You don't hate your neighbors because you lock your door at night. Night. You don't hate the person who shows up at your door. Say they a stranger shows up at your door, they need food, water. Maybe you give them food and water, but they say, well, no, I want to come in and I want to sleep in your kid's bed and I'm going to stay here and you can't kick me out. Well, because you're a sane person, because you care about your home. You care about not only the things in your home, but you care about the people in your home. You care about the children that God has given you to steward. You're going to kick that person out. You don't hate that person, but you don't know that person. And you know that your primary responsibility is to your family and your children. Yeah, countries are like families. The American government has a primary responsibility to its own people. And According to Romans 13, it has been instituted by God to reward good and to punish evil, for it does not bear the sword. In the vein. We can have compassionate refugee policy and still enforce our borders and make sure that we have limitations on our immigration that best protects the rights and the safety and well being and prosperity of our own people. You'll remember Biden's immigration disaster was extremely deleterious, especially to the most vulnerable population, and that is children. They just refused to allow Texas in the border states to secure their border. They undermined every effort by Texas and Arizona to place any kind of physical obstruction to disincentivize this dangerous track of people. The sex trafficking, the drug trafficking, the gun trafficking that exists at the border. Texas has worked really hard to try to block entrance and access and the Biden administration very actively undermined that. And go back and listen to the episodes where we covered that in detail. Under the Biden administration, the Department of Homeland securities, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, ICE said that they could not account for 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children who failed to appear for their immigration court hearings. You heard a lot about that, the separation of parents and children at the border under the Trump administration. Did any of those social justice evangelicals have anything to say, say about this? The tens of thousands unaccomp of unaccompanied minors. Were they sex trafficked? Like, were they kidnapped? Were they murdered? Like, we don't know where they are. But because we incentivized this track through liberal loose immigration policy, they came here and they haven't been found. You'll also remember We've talked about many times the young children who were found in the desert, desert at the border. They were abandoned by the coyotes or the traffickers or even their parents or just the grown ups that had taken them there. On November 24, for example, of last year, the spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety said that he found a two year old little girl by herself at the border. She was a part of a group of 211 illegal immigrants which included 60 unaccompanied children and minors ages 2 to 17. That is what we incentivize. That is what we encourage when we open our borders. And when we say, yeah, you're probably going to be able to get in and work and get benefits, but when we say, no, it's not worth it for you to even try, then we disincentivize that kind of dangerous track that endangers especially women and children, Children. And as you see all of this like, and we don't even have time to get into the back and forth with Trump in Colombia. Trump tried to send illegal aliens from Colombia back to Colombia. Columbia said no. They went back and forth. Trump was like, okay, here's some tariffs. And Colombia eventually was like, okay, we'll take him back. It's all just a really bitter reminder. All of this that we see happening so fast with this deportations and enforcement of the law, law, the flexing of the muscle by Donald Trump to make smaller countries do the right thing, that Lake and Riley's death was a policy choice. It was a policy choice. It was the result of deliberate policy decisions by the Biden administration and other politicians. Biden acted for four years like nothing could be done. Something could have been done. He didn't want to. All of the murder, all of the rape, all of the preventable crimes. Citizens commit crimes too, but all crimes by illegal aliens are preventable. All of these preventable crimes took place that represent a loss of life, a loss of dignity, a loss of property, a loss of economic opportunity. All of those were the result of a policy choice. We are seeing that now that Trump has accomplished more in five days when it comes to immigration than Biden did over four years and over four decades in Washington, D.C. you're going to see a lot of gaslighting, a lot of toxic empathy from Christians, from celebrities. I want to give you one example. Do we have the. Do we have Selena Gomez sought 10. Okay, let's play saw 10 as an example. Example. I just want to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked Children, they don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do. I'll try everything, I promise. All right. I don't know what she thinks is happening. Like Mexicans in general are not just getting deported. Actually, we're protecting children because we're deporting criminal, violent, illegal aliens first. We are protecting the children of this country by protecting our borders, by disincentivizing the sex trafficking that occurs because of the liberal immigration law that has prevailed over the past, not only four years, but by and large over the past several decades. What is happening right now is righteous and good and again, compassionate for our country. You're going to see a lot from Christianity today. You're going to see a lot from the typical so called progressive Christians that this is not the way of Jesus, that this is, that this is not Christian. And I don't, I wish I had time to just like regio my entire chapter in Toxic Empathy about this, but I don't, unfortunately, I do encourage you. You know, I thought that this book, Toxic Empathy, was going to be most important before the election and that it wouldn't have as much use after the election because everyone had kind of known what they needed to know. But now I realize it's really more important than ever because you are going to be manipulated and you are going to be gaslit and you are going to be told that you're not a good Christian if you support deportation, if you support borders, and you support the enforcement of immigration law. Law. Not only do I lay out the facts about the dangers of illegal immigration, but I also give you the biblical case for enforcing borders, for having borders. Everywhere that walls are depicted, either literally or symbolically, throughout Scripture, they are seen as symbols or as the protection of order. And God is a God of order. He placed us in a garden, not a jungle. He is a God of parameters. He is a God of definitions. Borders, countries were all his idea for our good. The Tower of Babel and the confusion that ensued after that because people couldn't speak the same language, that was a curse, not a blessing. God has given us families and communities and countries so that we could build societies in which people, in particular the most vulnerable people, could thrive. Anarchy and lawlessness and chaos, those are all seen as descriptions of what Satan loves throughout Scripture. Order and parameters and borders and strength, these are all part of what God wants for us. Us. Now, does that mean that we can't have any immigration? That's not it at all. That's certainly not what I argue in my book. Does that mean that we can't love people who are different than us? That we shouldn't have mercy for people who are true refugees or sojourners? That's not at all what God argues. What the Bible argues are what I argue in my book. And I had planned to read you like a long excerpt from this, but we're running out of time and I want to get to my last subject first. So I really do encourage you to get Toxic Empathy. You can see it's a, it's a pretty short book, if I can say without sounding braggadocious. It is a New York Times bestseller and I hope that it helped. A lot of people before the election see things in a way that is very different than what the progressive media wants you, how they want you to see them. And this is from a Christian perspective, but also factual perspective. You will be so armed with, with data and with logic and with biblical support for the conservative position on the big subjects, including immigration, including gender and abortion and all of that. If you get this book, Toxic Empathy, you can get it on Amazon. Toxic empathy.com all right, I want to talk about, I wanted to make sure that I have some time to talk about Katanji Brown Jackson and her witchcraft Booker shells. Okay. I saw this and I haven't seen anyone else talk about it. And, and I just think it's, I just think it's interesting and actually more important, more important than people might think. So we talk a lot about the dangers and the pervasiveness of witchcraft on this, on this podcast. So this is, this is all part of that and it intersects with politics. So it's kind of perfect, even though it's scary and sad. But let me tell you about our last sponsor for the day first, and that is crowd health. If you are tired of the, the craziness, the chaos, the burden that health insurance can cause in your life, then it might be time to opt out. Crowd health is not health insurance. It allows you to pay for medical emergencies with the help of a crowd without doctors networks getting in the way or high premiums or anything like that. So here's how it works. For $175 for an individual or $575 for a family of four or more, you get access to a community of people who are, will help out in the event of a, of an emergency. You get access to telemedicine visits, discounted prescriptions. 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I do see how it's kind of an ode to Ruth Bader Ginsburg because she would always wear the like white thing on her chest. And so I could see how that's like a symbol of resistance. But I would have never known that it was maybe more than that. So this person says, christopher Webb says, I love this so much. At the inauguration, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson wore a distinctive collar adorned with calorie shells, which are believed to evil in African traditions. This choice mirrors the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's practice of using collars to convey a message. She does look upset in that picture, but I said this is witchcraft and a lot of people are upset by that. It's not witchcraft. It's just a fashion statement. Okay, maybe it is. It could just be a coincidence. I can't say exactly what she was thinking that morning when she got dressed, but I did want to look into this. Is it really witchcraft? Witchcraft? It would. It is witchcraft if it is this idea that she is fending off some kind of evil spirit and voodoo and this kind of mysticism is extremely prevalent in Africa and places like Haiti. So I wanted to look into it a little bit more. Speaking to the Huffington Post following the inauguration, fashion and costume historian Shelby Ivy Christie said, and many African traditions, cowrie shells are believed to carry protective properties and spiritual significance. She said they're often seen as conduits of ancestral wisdom and protection used in divination practices and spiritual ceremonies. Okay, so that is witchcraft. Like, that is witchcraft. I don't know if that's what she's practicing here. If so, I think that it is extremely troubling for a Supreme Court justice who, as we saw in her confirmation hearing, cannot define what a woman, because she's not a biologist, whom we have also seen from the various statistics that are put out that she has the most words to give in all of the arguments compared to, like, I don't know, it's like tens of thousands of words that she gives in these. In her arguments versus, like, Clarence Thomas, who has to say very little to say so much. And so someone with this much power, with this much to say, potentially possibly practicing or believing in some kind of witchcraft is actually very scary. This was especially true, this person says, in many West African societies, which is where Brown Jackson's aunt served in the Peace Corps. The same aunt is credited with giving Brown Jackson's parents the idea for their daughter's name, Katanji, to show pride in their African ancestry. So this is piecing things together that possibly this was a purposeful act of trying to wear something that was a conveyor, a conduit of her ancestral, ancestral wisdom, and that this is some kind of divination symbol. Cowrie shells are still used today in divination rituals. In one Yoruba tradition, a div. A diviner. A diviner? Is that how you would pronounce that? Well, basically, a medium communicates with the 16 original ancestor spirits by casting 16 cowrie shells on a carved wooden tray. As he poses a question about the future, the cowries answer this medium by landing either face up positive or face down negative. So, like flipping a coin. That's according to Emory University. I just want to remind you that divination is an abomination to the Lord. Lord who is the creator of all things, but the source of all goodness and truth. So divination refers to the practice of, like, you're seeking knowledge or seeking wisdom from ancestors or from the other side, from dead people through some kind of supernatural means. And as we talked about a couple weeks ago, we were talking about oils. Like, witchcraft is the use of some kind of medium or material in order to access supernatural power. So all of these things kind of go hand in hand. And Deuteronomy 18:9 through 14, God says, There shall not be found among you one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering. As an offering. Anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer. Okay, so talking to the dead, trying to talk to the dead. People have asked me before, like, should we like be praying to the dead. No, that is necromancer, see, or one who inquires of the dead. For whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations, the Lord your God is driving them out before you. 1st Samuel 15:23. For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry. Practicing divination is listed as one of the reasons for Israel's exile. In Second Kings 17:17 and Acts 16. Paul and Silas encounter a young girl who's practicing div. And Paul casts out the evil spirit that is actually empowering her to practice divination. So it is real in the sense that it might actually access you some things that are true. But there are only two kinds of powers in the world, and that is heavenly power that comes from God and satanic demonic power that comes from hell. And so any kind of access to the supernatural, if it is, is outside of the bounds that God has given us. Whether it is the superstitious belief that shells are going to protect you or that they're conduits of some kind of supernatural wisdom or protection or something, or whether it's like straight up like casting spells or something like that, anything that is outside of God's, God's bounds of seeking supernatural power, that is a form of witchcraft and demonic activity that we should mess around with. That is not fashionable. That is completely inappropriate. Again, if this is her intent for a Supreme Court justice, really for anyone, but especially someone who has such a long term impact on our laws in the future of our country, who pray for her, pray for her family, pray for this country, pray for President Trump that he would continue to be bold and succeed. He does not give one rats behind what anyone thinks right now. And I love this, Trump. I love that for us and I love that for this country. And I'm just, I'm, I'm grateful for it. I had my skepticism of about how this, how this administration would go, how this round would go, honestly. And you guys know, I, in the primary, I was a, I was a DeSantis supporter, but I have been so pleased with just how this past week has gone, really how things have gone since the election, but especially this past week. And so I'm just praising God again for the mercy that he has shown us through President Trump. But we've obviously we've got a lot of praying still to do, a lot of convincing and persuading still to do. And I think that the Lord can equip us to be up to the task. All right. That's all we've got time for today. We'll be back here tomorrow.