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Shane Barnard
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Ali Beth Stuckey
We've got such a special episode for y' all today. Shane and Shane, the incredible worship duo is here today. And not only are they going to lead us in worship, perform a song for us, walk us through one of their song centered devotion, but they're also going to share their testimonies with us. How they were saved when they believed the gospel and how that led them into this 25 year plus journey of singing the word of God and helping us memorize and sing the word of God. This is just such an encouraging and special treat for me personally. And I know it will be for y' all too. This episode is brought to you by friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com use code ALI at checkout. That's goodranchers.com code Ally Foreign. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us. It really is such an honor. I've been listening to y' all forever.
Shane Barnard
Come on.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah, y' all are awesome.
Shane Barnard
It's an honor to be on.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Well, thank you.
Shane Barnard
Thanks for having us.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay, so I would guess that the vast majority of people listening to or watching this are very familiar with y' all have worshiped alongside Yalls music for a long time. But for those who don't know your story and how you guys started out, was it something where y' all were looking for someone with the same name and you were like, as soon as I find this person, I'm gonna form a band.
Shane Everett
That was on the application.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah, it was. Okay. Got it. Got it. I didn't.
Shane Barnard
Shane actually. He actually changed his name to Shane.
Shane Everett
No, he didn't.
Shane Barnard
No. Just kidding. We were business majors at Texas A and M University. No business doing anything like this. Like, anything artsy. Neither one of us grew up in a. In a Christian home or a singing home. And I came to Christ in high school just very out of the blue. The Lord got me in west Texas and I learned GCD and E minor on a guitar I had. My dad had an old prop guitar. It wasn't like a guitar that you play. It's like had it like on top of the cupboards kind of next to the stuffed rattlesnake.
Shane Everett
Yeah. His family is a prop family.
Shane Barnard
Just a lot of props.
Shane Everett
Props.
Shane Barnard
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I took that thing down. And I had my youth pastor, just a tiny little youth group, like 30 kids, teach me these four chords. And so I was off to the races. I. It wasn't my thing, but I could play 20 worship songs. And I took those 20 worship songs, you know, into college. And every Saturday night, we would get together and sing and pray, open God's Word. And my roommates at Texas A and M my junior year, they talked me into doing this outdoor festival. They're like, we need a 2 in the afternoon slot. You're going to do it. And I was terrified. Terrified. My guitar didn't plug in. Never written a song, never sang into a microphone, you know. And so anyway, I went down the street and borrowed a guitar that did plug again. From a guy named Shane.
Shane Everett
Yep.
Shane Barnard
And actually, he was like, my name shine.
Shane Everett
Just like that.
Shane Barnard
And I was like, shine, Shine. Anyway, so I borrowed his guitar, played this concert. It was horrible, but the.
Ali Beth Stuckey
It was horrible.
Shane Barnard
It was horrible. It was horrible.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Really, it was. Or do you just feel that way?
Shane Barnard
It was.
Shane Everett
If we would watch. If we would have watched it now, we probably would have said, oh, man, those guys.
Shane Barnard
My girls point in my face and laugh. And when I show them that early stuff.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay, you still have videos.
Shane Barnard
Oh, man, it's so bad. The Lord's just got a sense of humor. I mean, like, he can use whoever he wants to do whatever he wants to do, you know?
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay. So it wasn't an instant spark of like, wow, this is just perfect. And our voices just go together. So.
Shane Everett
No, we didn't even sing together at that event. He borrowed my guitar.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Oh, okay.
Shane Everett
Got it. And then I wasn't even a believer at the time. And then two weeks later, pretty much, I mean, almost probably say, yeah, maybe two weeks. I was in a. I was in this little bar band in. In college, and I ended up at 2 in the morning waiting on a check. The lights came on in this bar. And if anybody's ever been in a bar when the. When the neon's on versus when the fluorescence come on, it's a different view. And I had kind of grown up around. My grandfather was a deacon at a church, sent me to camp every year. So I got saved at camp every year. Never stuck. But then. But then in college, when the lights came on in this bar, I didn't hear the audible voice of God, but the Lord called me home. And that was like, the beginning of my walk. I ended up getting up the next morning, going to this little church called Central Baptist Church. And. And Brian, Texas, where we were both at A and M. And I didn't even know what the pastor talked about. I just knew because I had grown up around the Baptist faith that you had to walk down front and fill out a card to be saved. You know, that's just what you had to do. You know what?
Shane Barnard
You don't.
Shane Everett
By the way, you don't have to do that. But, like, at the time. At the time, if you grew up Baptist, you know what I'm talking about. But I was just like. So I don't know what he talked about, but I walked up front, and that was the beginning of my journey. And that I was talking to the pastor, he said, what do you do? I was like, well, I've been singing this bar band, but I'm not gonna do that anymore. And he's like, you want to sing in the choir? So that night I went get saved. That night I go and I rehearse with the old choir peeps at Central Baptist Church.
Shane Barnard
And that's where my buddies and I saw them singing in this choir. It's like everybody knew the words but him. But he was super, super pumped about it.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Barnard
So we, like, walked up to him afterward, you know, because we had met. It's like, hey, man, you need. You need a couple buddies?
Shane Everett
You want some friends?
Shane Barnard
You just up here come over. And he did, and he jumped in the car pretty much around that season, and we were just in. In a little GM, 1988 GMC. Jimmy, just driving around singing these horrible.
Shane Everett
Well, after his concert, people started calling him. So he played this show, which he said was horrible, and people were like, hey, can you come, you know, lead for this and that and this and that. And so within a couple months, he had dropped out of school to go play these shows for a plate of lasagna and gas money. And that's. And he was like, you want to go get in the car with me? So I hopped in the car with him, and I hadn't got out yet.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
So here we are, 27 years, 25, something like that, years later.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah, Still.
Shane Everett
Still. Still doing it.
Ali Beth Stuckey
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Shane Barnard
So I was on my buddy Zach's roof, his mom's roof, playing football at night. That's. That's a west.
Ali Beth Stuckey
That's a combo.
Shane Barnard
That's a West Texas thing. Don't recommend it. Yeah, but this particular night, like, the moon wasn't there, so it's just West Texas stars lighting up the sky, you know, And I don't even remember the details, but something happened in me. Looking back on it. We sing Psalm 8 pretty often. And I feel like I had this Psalm 8 moment where it's like the one who put the stars in their place with his fingertips. Who am I that you would be mindful of me? Could there be a real God and could he be mindful of me? And it was very, like I said, vague because I didn't have any language and I didn't grow up around the gospel. And so I started to sneak out on Wednesday nights. Back in the day when you could tell mom and dad, you're going to be gone for six hours and nobody cared, you know, before cell phones and. And I would sneak out to this little youth group, and I heard the gospel, and it. It wrecked me. I've never been able to recover from that.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Would your parents have disapproved if they knew you were going to church?
Shane Barnard
Well, my mom had. Was from a long line of Catholic families. And so, like, I. I knew that if I told her that I was going to, like, a Bible church youth group, that I think she would have. She might not have let me. So I didn't want to. I didn't want to risk it. Within a couple of years, she was, like, coming. You know, my. My brother had. I had just one older brother. He came to Christ. And then my mom started to come. She came to Christ. And then 15 years later, my John Wayne dad, at age 66, gave his life to Christ. And I got to baptize my mom and dad. He died right after that suddenly. But it was just. Yeah, God just had a. Had a plan to capture our. Our hearts. And.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah, I think it's interesting that for you, you were on the roof, it was dark, except for the light of the stars. And for you it was dark. And then the lights turned on in a very different setting, but on the inside. And so, you know, in two different ways, God used like, that light and darkness in both of your testimonies, and you felt like it was kind of a moment, too. What was it about the lights turning on in the bar that made you kind of come to your senses, you.
Shane Everett
Know, My grandfather was a. He was a deacon at a Baptist church, and he kind of ruled with an iron fist a little bit. And so my dad, he was kind of like, I'm not into this. And so my family kind of would try to. I think when I was growing up, would try to appease my grandfather. And so I would go to camp. I would do disciple now. We would go up there on Wednesday nights and eat. And so there was, like, a little bit. So I had heard the gospel a lot, you know, and so I knew the stories. And I feel like I was probably like that seed that fell in the rocky soil. And so there would have been, like, a few weeks of, like, man, I've tasted a little bit of what it means to like. So I like. Something about the Lord had enticed me in seasons because of, I think, just proximity, but it never took root. It never took root. So it was like two weeks later, I'm back to the old ways, you know? And then you know, I'm at. I'm at school, and I'm doing internships, and I'm like, I'm pursuing the world as hard as you can pursue the world. Like, I mean, you know, gonna do corporate real estate, gonna do these things, really pursuing career and everything and trying to, you know, check all the boxes to do the things, to get the stuff, you know. And I was in this band, and. And we were, you know, for a college band on a college campus, we were having a lot of fun, you know, And I think I was finally at the end of, like, if this is all the world has, it's not working for me. And it kind of culminated in an evening on the end of the stage waiting to get paid. You know, we got a portion of tip Share. I was in Killeen, Texas. Fort Hood is there, and we were throwing a party for all the troops at this. It was like an indoor, outdoor, like a sand volleyball court and then a club inside. And so it's kind of in and out, and people wore bathing suits, and there's a lot of consumption and sweat. So, like, the. The inside, when they turned the fluorescence on was very rough. So, I mean, sand and just in. The walls were not nigh. I mean, everything about it. I mean, it was just bad. And so they turned the lights on, and, like, the Lord just used that picture to just say, man, this look familiar to you?
Ali Beth Stuckey
Right?
Shane Everett
You know, and so I just was like, this is me. This is me. I feel like I look good under the neon, but when the light. When I'm exposed. And so I think the Lord just really was gracious to me to say. To say there's more. And I felt like he said, son, it's time to come home. That's what I felt in my heart. And so that was the beginning. That was the beginning. And just like Shane said, I didn't have the language for that, really, but I just knew that I was like, I want to follow Jesus. I don't know what that means, but I want to because, like, I'm tired enough. And so that's the beginning of the journey.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah. Wow, that's such a good metaphor for sin in general. Like, Satan uses darkness to make sin look really good. Then when God is gracious to turn the lights on, you're like, this is really bad. Yeah, this is really gross.
Shane Everett
Yeah.
Ali Beth Stuckey
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Shane Everett
Yeah, 90. So that. That all of those things were happening in 97. And then Shane had done a record with another guy. Not on purpose, just. They just were just there and Caleb. Caleb. And this, this guy was like, I got our studio in my basement. So they went over there in one day and made this little thing. And then Shane did a record in 98 called Rocks Won't Cry. And he said. And I. We had become really good friends and kind of started hanging out a lot. And I got on the road with him and. And just all kinds of. There's so many stories that around that. But then he's like, you want to sing on a few of these songs? And I said, sure. I sang. I sang on the songs and then we started singing them and it's just like, Shane's coming and Shane's coming.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
So that's how Shane and Shane happened.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
That wasn't intentional. Like, ooh, we got. This is kind of catchy. That didn't happen. And then, and then it was just like, what are we supposed to sing? And like, it's just like, I think they used to sing the psalms. So we started singing psalms.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Barnard
Because both of us were so green. I mean, you know, we were semi new in our faith and really didn't have any grid for music or Christian music or songwriting. And so like, as life started to smack us in the face, we just started to sing God's word and it started to work like in our own heart. And then God started to use that in other people's lives too. And so singing is word has been a common denominator in our, in our music. Just because it's been so helpful.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Barnard
In our own personal life and our family's lives. So it's been sweet.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Well, it's been helpful to me, too, and my producer, actually, I think it's okay for me to say this. She was saying how a lot of Yalls songs, just singing the psalms has helped her memorize the psalms. That. That is actually how they're in their head. And it makes so much sense because so much. I mean, whether it's the pledge of Allegiance or whether it is like the. Like, different parts of speech, like, I can say a lot of those in song because that's how we learn, for sure. And so it makes sense that we are commanded to do the. To sing the psalms and the hymns and the spiritual songs, because that is how God's word kind of nestles itself into our heart. And we still remember it decades and decades later, for sure.
Shane Everett
Powerful.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Tell me a little bit more about what the journey has been like in contemporary Christian music. Y' all are so unique in that you do have songs that are played on the radio that people just like to listen to, but it is really mostly worship. And as you said, it really is explicitly based on the word of God. And how has that. What has it been like to kind of navigate that industry over the past 25 plus years?
Shane Barnard
Yeah, I don't know. From really early on, we were so disconnected to the industry because we were just these two college dropouts who had some music, and we were selling it out of the back of our car. People were calling us to come sing these songs. People were burning records. Napster hit. So there was a way to get music. And so we started to kind of go out, you know, of our region, and we would go to other states and people would know these songs, but we were like, how do you know these songs? Because we weren't on the radio. We weren't in any stores. And so just the. The power of technology started to kind of give us a place to go and a platform to sing God's word, which now it's. I mean, it's very similar to your Spotify and itunes and Amazon and YouTube and all of that. Back then, that was illegal, you know, but. But especially in the college world, it was. It was rampant, you know, so, like, music spread like wildfire. And. And we just did our thing. So we just started to, you know, the. The record we did together. At first, it came out of a really hard season of, like a desert season, and it was just singing the P.S. i wasn't even making a record when I was writing those. I wasn't Writing for a record. I was just. I was just crying out to God, Revive me for your namesake. Revive me for your namesake. And when that season was over, it was like I moved to Dallas. And we record those psalms and we call it Shane and Shane.
Shane Everett
Yeah.
Shane Barnard
Psalms, psalms, psalms.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Did y' all lose your accent somewhere along the way?
Shane Barnard
Shane still has.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Because whenever y' all are talking about 90s and early 2000, two, thousands, Shane and Shane, you'll have a West Texas accent, but I don't hear it as much.
Shane Everett
Maybe if.
Shane Barnard
If this guy gets around his family, man, he goes there, he goes there.
Shane Everett
I do, I do. I kind of adopt any accent that I'm around.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay.
Shane Everett
I'm one of those guys.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Australia right now.
Shane Everett
Yeah. Start doing it. It's. People get embarrassed. Went to go to restaurants with me. Yeah.
Shane Barnard
Because it's a little inappropriate. Yeah. Yep.
Shane Everett
But I don't even mean to do it.
Ali Beth Stuckey
You just.
Shane Everett
It just happens. It starts to happen.
Shane Barnard
That's so funny.
Shane Everett
It's weird. It's weird. But we, you know, we. I mean, being around the industry, I mean, we signed a record deal in 2001 and, you know, but things didn't really change. We didn't move to Nashville. We kind of stayed in Dallas and we kind of did our thing. We were. We lived on the road probably unhealthily for a really long time. A couple hundred shows. 250 shows a couple years. And just like lived on the road, just going, going and doing. And I think, you know, we both grew up pretty blue collar and so we didn't have, like, the artist. We never had an artist mentality.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
It just wasn't in us. And I don't even know if it is still today. I think we're probably pretty practical guys, you know, but we love the word of God. We think it's alive, it's active, it speaks. It speaks today. And we feel like, man, the Lord has given us an opportunity to set the table for people to love his.
Shane Barnard
Word for both of us. It's funny because music has never been a passion is kind of. It was sort of like something that was a surprise. But. But Jesus from those early years has been our passion. The gospel, the good news, the life that we've experienced and see. Seen him bring to, like, parts that were dead. And so, like now, now in this season, we're getting. For the past 10 years, we're getting to pour into the church. We were a part of a ministry called the Worship Initiative. And so we. We go to work when we're not on the road every day and we're part of a team of people that just pours into the church and pastors and their worship teams and, and to some degree now just lay people, you know, of like getting around this idea of like singing and why would we sing and what does that do? And just open up the Bible and go, well, here's what it does and let's go do this together. And so we get to, we get to make a lot of cool resources and be a part of a great team.
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Shane Barnard
Full time women's ministry.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yes.
Shane Everett
That's what we do.
Shane Barnard
It's real.
Ali Beth Stuckey
I know and I love it so much. And so I just want to get yalls advice on how you started, how you and your wives started family devotionals and family discipleship time. Like what has that looked like in Yalls homes? And if you, if you have any advice for Christian parents out there, especially of little ones, what would you tell them?
Shane Everett
Go ahead.
Shane Barnard
A couple things come to mind. One, three things come to mind quickly. First, I think the Lord has used our failures more than our successes in the moments that we can humble ourselves and ask for forgiveness. Like model brokenness, model a need for Jesus, like daddy needs Jesus. It's not just you. Like, this is for me. And the Lord's really used that. I can just see that. Another thing for me, I'm the nighttime dad, you know, my wife, she's the morning mom. And so I've done, I've done tuck ins over the years. And there was a moment years ago where I got convicted by the Holy Spirit to formalize tuck in times. Instead of like, I'm beat, I'm tired, I've been through the day. Let's just get this over with so I can be with Beth and you know, watch something or hang out or, you know, instead of having that mindset of like really formalizing that moment, like I'm walking up these stairs asking the Holy Spirit for his leadership as I, as I sit with these girls for 30 minutes. And just that one little decision made a big impact because he would answer, you know, and lots of conversations, songs, scripture. That has been really neat. This third. Thirdly this year we pulled out of all school systems and we're the awkward homeschool family now. Which. One of the cool things about that is it's given us the opportunity to do family devotions in the mornings to where last. It used to be like so early. Everybody's just getting ready and we got to get everybody to three different places. And it was nuts. And so now, you know, every weekday we, we're just, we read, we've read through a couple books in the Bible and really dialogue around the table about what that is. And then we'll sing a song and pray together. And it's, it's been really, really sweet just to have that moment in our day that's available. I can see God really using that.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah, I love that. So good. I love that y' all called it full time women's ministry too. Girl, parents are so good.
Shane Everett
That's what we do every day. Yeah, every day.
Ali Beth Stuckey
That's so good. Okay, tell me about the new devotional worship initiative that y' all have that people can listen to every day, right?
Shane Everett
Yes.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay, tell me about it.
Shane Everett
So, you know, we've made songs for years and years. We've and that. That have been distributed and I think people have been encouraged by. But I think there's something to. Something different about the rhythm and consistency of doing something every day. And so we decided to turn the mic on and just sit around a table and say, lord, would you use these scriptures and our voice to try to connect the head and the heart, you know, and just to say everybody has been given a voice and Shane says it every, every day. It's just like he's given you a unique voice. The way that it sounds, the way that it's made to glorify the Lord. And there's something like even. Even he would say that, like when he became a Christian, it's like he kind of sang his way into believing some of these truths that we say.
Shane Barnard
1.
Shane Everett
You know, it's like there's something that happens that's not just cerebral when there's a humbling effect of lifting your voice to the Lord. It really is a neutralizer of a lot of things. And so I've seen that as I've done the devo. And I'm going to tell one quick story about the devo. And so, you know, a lot of people would say, might say, singing's not for me. Singing's not my thing. They might go to church, they might sit in a pew or sit in a chair, and they would see people like maybe raising their hands or closing their eyes or singing loudly or enjoying it. And they would sit kind of in the back and they would be like, okay, I'm going to press through this to get to the important thing, which is the sharing of God's word or something like that. And there's a story that there's a guy came up to me who our kids go to school together. My daughter was in a little program with his. And he pulls me aside and he said, man, I've been doing this devo that you guys have. And he said that exact same thing. He's like, I've been going to church my whole life, and when people were singing, I just thought it wasn't for me. I have a horrible voice. I'm embarrassed by my voice. I don't think I can hold a tune. But I've been getting by myself and I've been singing with you guys in the morning and that rhythm. The Lord began to change his heart. Change his heart. And I think it's by degrees, but after a couple weeks, I mean, he starts telling me this, he starts crying and he's just like, the Lord's Given me a voice to sing to him.
Ali Beth Stuckey
That's so beautiful.
Shane Everett
And like Shane says it. It's just like, it's a means of grace that the Lord has given us to, like, connect our emotions inside of. Of what his word says. And sometimes it just takes that to. Just to open our mouth and sing.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yes.
Shane Everett
As an act of faith.
Ali Beth Stuckey
And that's so good.
Shane Everett
And he's been responding and he's using this tool to. And people are responding to it, and the Lord is responding with some. I mean, the stories are just. It's endless.
Shane Barnard
Yeah. And I think it's. It's. It's like, duh, you know, like Colossians 3:16 says, May the word of Christ dwell richly in you as you sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. You said that earlier. With gratefulness to God in your heart, like, the word of Christ begins to dwell richly in you. It's like a promise of God's word when we sing, you know, and it's kind of like, of course, you know, how many times during. During singing, during a song in church or in my car with my girls, have I. Have I been really stepped into faith? Like, I didn't believe that. Like, if I'm being honest, like, I feel like God, you are low grade. Disappointed with me always. And then in a song, I'm admonished and I'm taught, and I'm like, oh, my goodness. All that disappointment went on the cross. All of that shame went on the cross. And like, over and over again, like, singing has literally been stepping off this dark place into faith. And largely, God's used the grace of singing to do that. So we're just inviting people in of like, come on. And let's just try it again. Like, formalize it a little bit. Not just like Spotify's on in the background. We all know that. We all know that kind of, you know, worship music is playing in my house often. And different than that, like, let's. Let's set aside 12 minutes and let's just ask the Lord to speak and then get into the Word and then sing it and see what happens over time. Yeah, it's been wonderful.
Shane Everett
Wonderful.
Ali Beth Stuckey
That is so good. So where can people subscribe? They're sold now. Where should they subscribe?
Shane Everett
Well, you have. Right now, the way we deliver it is through texts.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay.
Shane Everett
And so you can text a number.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay.
Shane Everett
Which I could get. You want me to just say it?
Ali Beth Stuckey
If you want to. Yeah.
Shane Everett
I can throw it up on the screen.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
I don't know the number by heart, but I sure can find it.
Ali Beth Stuckey
That's okay. I mean, we can also just put it up on the screen.
Shane Everett
We can put it on the screen or you can.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Well, you know what? There's gonna be people listening to this.
Shane Barnard
Yeah. This is what you do.
Shane Everett
This is what you do.
Shane Barnard
This is what you do.
Shane Everett
And it's gonna be hard to remember, but if you text DEVO D E V O to 682-318-3835.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay.
Shane Everett
682-318-3835. You can rewind it. Just text devo to that number. And you get a text every morning at about 7 to 7:15. And you just click on it and there you are.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
And you're with us. And so it's been. It's been amazing.
Ali Beth Stuckey
That is amazing. And we'll put it in the description of this episode. So if you're driving, don't feel like you have to write it down. We'll put it in the description later. When you get home, you have that number there and you can text it. Well, thank you all so much. And we have a treat because y' all are going to do a sampling. Y' all are going to do a devoid and sing a song for us. I'm so excited. So without further ado. Let's go.
Shane Barnard
Let's do it.
Ali Beth Stuckey
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Shane Barnard
How do y' all. Shane's here.
Shane Everett
Come on. Here we are.
Shane Barnard
We have a special guest.
Shane Everett
We do. Ali Beth Stuckey is gonna just sit in with us today. And she doesn't think she has a voice, but I think by the end of this, it's.
Ali Beth Stuckey
She's gonna be like, oh, my God.
Shane Everett
God has given me a voice.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Okay, we'll see. It'll have to be the Holy Spirit. We'll see about that. We'll see.
Shane Barnard
And if you're joining us for the first time, we do this every day. We come to remember and experience what is true through singing God's word, through song in scripture. And so welcome. So grateful to have you sing with us virtually. But what a joy it is to lift our voice to him. And so we're just going to pray for you around this little table. Father, would you allow your word, the word of Christ, to dwell richly in our brothers and sisters today as we come before you in song in Jesus name and brother. Sister, would you just take a second and ask the Holy Spirit to speak to you? As we sing and pray and read God's word today, Sing this little chorus together. I'm fighting a battle you've already won. I'm fighting a battle that you've already won. No matter what comes my way, I will overcome. I don't know what you're doing, but I know what you've done. And I'm fighting about, oh, you've already won. I think that language is common language to a lot of people. We say, lord, if I'm being honest, I have no idea what you're doing. I just got the diagnosis. I just. I just got the report. There's bad news everywhere. We're all living in this world of brokenness. And so it's like, lord, what are you doing? I don't know what you're doing. But in the same breath, we say, lord, I don't know what you're doing, but I do know what you've done for me on the cross when you paid for my sins and you died so that I don't have to die. So I'm. I'm super confused on what you're doing, but I know what you've done for me, and I believe that I'm fighting a battle that you've already won on Calvary, where you accomplished everything for me, that you conquered sin and death on my behalf. And so I can stand there. And not only that, because of God's word, we know how the story ends. And can I just tell you. Spoiler report. If you have a moment to read the last two chapters of the Bible, it goes really well. It goes super well. Like, if you are listening and you have simply received the free gift of God's love for you in His Son, Jesus Christ, who was laid down for you for your sins. If you've received that free gift, can I just say your future is super bright. It's so bright, it couldn't be brighter. And I'm not even talking about, like, Monday or a week from Monday or a year from Monday or a day that might be really good chance. That's all going to be really hard. But we can stand like, you're going to be okay because we're standing on the finished work of Jesus and the future grace of Jesus when He comes and makes all things new and we can stand secure. Your future doesn't depend on you. It depends on him and our faith in Him. Like, he's done the heavy lifting and we just get to trust and walk in that. And so it's a blessing.
Shane Everett
It's a blessing.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah.
Shane Everett
It's amazing.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Yeah. Gosh, it is. It is. I have so many thoughts about that and so many other contexts. Dying means losing. Like, we hear, you know, someone lost their battle to cancer or the side in a war that has the most deaths, that side loses. But in Christianity, death is victory. Not only personally, but to live as Christ, to die is gain. So actually, when someone dies, that's a victorious moment for them. Even when it's sad for us. But also in the spiritual sense, dying to ourselves is actually winning. And also Jesus's death was actually victory. So that's just another way that Christianity kind of turns the worldly economy and worldly philosophies on its head, that dying is not losing.
Shane Barnard
Yeah.
Shane Everett
Yeah.
Shane Barnard
Isn't it? While that's completely upside down, it's an upside down kingdom. And gosh, we put all of our hope in his finished work where he died for us. And so we can live like. Like you said, like, gosh, that is the cornerstone of our life. Like, we can. We can face tomorrow because he conquered death and he lives. And we can walk into tomorrow and it's going to be okay. We don't have to. We don't have to worry or depend on our own ability to make it through. Because he made it. He did it, and he's going to carry us through. So it's good.
Shane Everett
It's good.
Shane Barnard
Can we sing it together?
Shane Everett
Let's sing it, man.
Shane Barnard
Let's just start. There's peace that outlast, outlast there's peace that outlast darkness.
Shane Everett
That's it. That's the words. That's the words you wrote. It.
Shane Barnard
All right. The lyrics are there for you. Darkness, there's hope that's in the blood. There's future grace that's mine today that Jesus Christ has won so I can face tomorrow. For tomorrow's in your hands. Oh, I need you will provide just like you always have.
Shane Everett
Some.
Shane Barnard
Fighting a battle you've already won. No matter what comes comes my way, I will overcome.
Shane Everett
Don't know what you'll do.
Shane Barnard
But I know what you've done. I'm fighting a battle you've already won. There's mercy. There's a mercy in the waiting. There's a man out for the today. And when it's gone, I know you're not. You are my hope and stay.
Shane Everett
When.
Shane Barnard
The sea is raging. Your spirit is my help. He'll fix my eyes on Jesus Christ. I'll say that it is well. Oh, I know that it is well. Well. I'm fighting a battle you've already won. No matter what comes my way, I will overcome.
Shane Everett
Don't know what he'll do, but I.
Shane Barnard
Know what you've done all right. I know how the story ends. We'll sing together. Know how the story ends. We will be with you again. We will be with you again. You're my savior, my defense. You're my savior, my defense. You don't have to be afraid anymore. No more fear in life or death. We will be with you again.
Shane Everett
Oh, my savior, my defense.
Ali Beth Stuckey
No more fear.
Shane Barnard
No more fear in life or death. I know how this story ends. I'm fighting the battle you've already won. No matter what comes my way, I will overcome.
Shane Everett
Don't know what you'll do.
Shane Barnard
But I.
Shane Everett
Know what you've done.
Shane Barnard
I'm fighting a battle you've already won. I'm fighting a battle you've already won. Father, pray just for our friends out and about today. Pray for their hearts that you would comfort them with the finished work of Jesus. That your Holy Spirit would point to Jesus and all that he accomplished there. And also what he's going to accomplish when very soon. He's going to come make all things new. When every tear will be made purposeful. And so would you comfort our friends today. They are not fighting alone. In fact, they're fighting a battle that's been one on the cross for them. And I ask this in no ordinary name, but the name that's above every name in Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen.
Ali Beth Stuckey
Amen.
Shane Everett
Sam.
Podcast Summary: Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey – Episode 1191 | Shane & Shane on Finding Faith in a Bar & Singing the Psalms
Introduction
In Episode 1191 of Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey, hosted by the Blaze Podcast Network, Allie Beth Stuckey sits down with the renowned Christian worship duo, Shane & Shane. This episode, released on May 19, 2025, delves deep into their personal testimonies, the genesis of their musical journey, and their unique approach to worship through singing the Psalms. Allie introduces the episode with enthusiasm, highlighting the duo's 25-plus-year commitment to spreading the Word of God through music.
Early Beginnings and Testimonies
The conversation kicks off with Allie Beth expressing her admiration for Shane & Shane, emphasizing their long-standing presence in the worship music scene. She shares her excitement about hearing their testimonies and understanding their journey to faith.
Shane Barnard opens up about his introduction to Christianity. Raised outside a Christian household, he found faith unexpectedly in high school. Referring to a pivotal moment, Shane recalls:
"We sing Psalm 8 pretty often. And I feel like I had this Psalm 8 moment where it's like the one who put the stars in their place with his fingertips. Who am I that you would be mindful of me?" ([09:14])
This profound reflection underscores the humility and wonder that marked his initial encounter with God's love.
Shane Everett shares a contrasting yet equally transformative experience. While leading a bar band during college, a moment of illumination occurred when the fluorescent lights of a bar turned on, symbolizing a shift from darkness to light in his spiritual journey:
"I feel like he had enticed me in seasons because of, I think, just proximity, but it never took root. So it was like two weeks later, I'm back to the old ways..." ([11:58])
However, the turning point came during a live event where the stark lighting mirrored his internal struggle, prompting him to seek a deeper relationship with Christ.
Formation of Shane & Shane
Allie Beth inquires about the duo's formation, prompting Shane Barnard to recount their beginnings as business majors at Texas A&M University. Despite their non-artistic backgrounds, a shared passion for music and faith led them to collaborate. Shane Barnard humorously shares their initial struggles:
"And my roommates at Texas A&M, my junior year, they talked me into doing this outdoor festival... I was terrified. Terrified." ([02:32])
Their first performance, though imperfect, was the catalyst for their enduring partnership. Shane Everett adds:
"We have been doing it for 25, something like that, years later. Still doing it." ([07:15])
Musical Journey and Impact
Shane & Shane discuss their unique approach to worship music, focusing on singing Psalms and incorporating Scripture into their songs. This method not only aids in memorizing the Psalms but also makes worship a profound spiritual experience for listeners.
Allie Beth highlights the educational value of their music, noting how it helps listeners internalize Scripture through song:
"After a couple weeks, he starts telling me this, he starts crying and he's just like, the Lord's Given me a voice to sing to him." ([32:37])
Shane Barnard emphasizes the transformative power of their music:
"It's a means of grace that the Lord has given us to, like, connect our emotions inside of what his word says." ([32:54])
Their commitment to integrating Scripture into music has resonated deeply with audiences, fostering a stronger connection to God's Word.
Navigating the Contemporary Christian Music Industry
The discussion transitions to their experiences within the contemporary Christian music (CCM) industry. Shane Barnard reflects on their early days of independently producing and distributing music:
"We were so disconnected to the industry because we were just these two college dropouts who had some music, and we were selling it out of the back of our car." ([19:39])
With the advent of digital platforms like Napster, Shane & Shane found new avenues to share their music, allowing their Psalms-centered songs to reach a wider audience despite not being mainstream radio staples.
Shane Everett adds:
"We never had an artist mentality. It just wasn't in us. And I don't even know if it is still today. I think we're probably pretty practical guys." ([22:48])
Their authenticity and focus on worship over commercial success have set them apart in the CCM landscape.
Family Discipleship and Devotional Practices
Allie Beth shifts the conversation to Shane & Shane's personal lives, particularly their roles as father figures in their families. She commends their dedication to family discipleship, referring to their homes as "full-time women's ministry."
Shane Everett shares practical insights into their family devotional practices:
"Instead of like, I'm beat, I'm tired, I've been through the day. Let's just get this over with... I just sat with these girls for 30 minutes. And just that one little decision made a big impact because he would answer." ([26:22])
Shane Barnard echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of modeling brokenness and dependence on Jesus:
"The Lord has used our failures more than our successes in the moments that we can humble ourselves and ask for forgiveness." ([26:49])
Their approach highlights the significance of intentional, faith-centered interactions within the family unit.
Worship Initiative and Daily Devotions
A significant portion of the discussion centers on their latest project, the Worship Initiative—a devotional program designed to incorporate daily Scripture, prayer, and worship. Shane Everett elucidates the purpose behind this initiative:
"There's something different about the rhythm and consistency of doing something every day. And so we decided to turn the mic on and just sit around a table and say, lord, would you use these scriptures and our voice to try to connect the head and the heart." ([29:43])
This initiative aims to bridge the gap between intellectual understanding and emotional connection to God's Word through daily worship. Shane Barnard shares a poignant story illustrating the impact of their devotions:
"There's a guy... He said that exact same thing. He's like, I've been doing this devo that you guys have. And he said that exact same thing... the Lord's Given me a voice to sing to him." ([31:17])
Through consistent engagement, their devotional program has fostered profound spiritual growth and transformation among participants.
Closing Worship Session
Towards the end of the episode, Shane & Shane lead a heartfelt worship session, performing their original song, "I'm Fighting a Battle You've Already Won." The song serves as a powerful affirmation of faith, encapsulating themes of victory over sin and reliance on Jesus' finished work.
Shane Barnard concludes the worship session with a prayer, reinforcing the episode's central message of trusting in Christ's victory and the hope it brings:
"Father, pray just for our friends out and about today. Pray for their hearts that you would comfort them with the finished work of Jesus... Amen." ([49:03])
Conclusion
Episode 1191 of Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey offers an intimate glimpse into the lives and ministry of Shane & Shane. From their humble beginnings and personal faith journeys to their innovative approach to worship and family discipleship, the episode underscores the profound impact of integrating Scripture into daily life and music. Their enduring dedication to singing the Psalms and fostering a deeper connection with God serves as an inspiring testament to the transformative power of faith and worship.
For listeners seeking to explore their devotional program, Shane & Shane provide access through texting:
"Just text DEVO to 682-318-3835. You get a text every morning at about 7 to 7:15." ([35:28])
This initiative, coupled with their rich musical legacy, offers a comprehensive resource for individuals and families striving to deepen their spiritual walk through worship and Scripture.
Notable Quotes
Shane Barnard on Psalm 8 Moment
"[09:14] 'We sing Psalm 8 pretty often. And I feel like I had this Psalm 8 moment where it's like the one who put the stars in their place with his fingertips. Who am I that you would be mindful of me?'"
Shane Everett on Bar Experience
"[11:58] '...the Lord just used that picture to just say, man, this look familiar to you?... I can stand there. And not only that, because of God's word, we know how the story ends.'"
Shane Everett on Devotional Impact
"[32:37] 'I've been doing this devo that you guys have. And he said that exact same thing... the Lord's Given me a voice to sing to him.'"
Shane Barnard on Family Devotions
"[26:49] 'The Lord has used our failures more than our successes in the moments that we can humble ourselves and ask for forgiveness.'"
Shane Everett on Worship Initiative
"[29:43] 'There's something different about the rhythm and consistency of doing something every day. And so we decided to turn the mic on and just sit around a table and say, lord, would you use these scriptures and our voice to try to connect the head and the heart.'"
Closing Prayer by Shane Barnard
"[49:03] 'Father, pray just for our friends out and about today. Pray for their hearts that you would comfort them with the finished work of Jesus... Amen.'"
Subscribe and Engage
Listeners interested in Shane & Shane's daily devotions can subscribe by texting "DEVO" to 682-318-3835, ensuring they receive daily spiritual encouragement and worship directly to their phones. The episode exemplifies how Shane & Shane seamlessly blend personal testimony, worship, and practical discipleship to create a holistic approach to faith.
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