Podcast Summary
Podcast: Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
Episode: Ep 1245 | Witches Cast a Spell on Charlie Kirk. Can Christians Be Cursed?
Date: September 24, 2025
Host: Allie Beth Stuckey | Blaze Podcast Network
Main Theme & Episode Purpose
This episode offers an earnest and impassioned Christian response to recent events surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk — including discussion of an alleged “curse” cast on him by witches as reported by Jezebel. Allie Beth Stuckey addresses whether Christians can be cursed, explores the theology of spiritual warfare, and affirms the sovereignty and protection found in Christ. The episode also touches on eschatology, revival, prayer, Christian engagement in politics, and refutes mainstream narratives labeling Christian activism as "Christian nationalism."
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Remembering Charlie Kirk & God’s Sovereignty (00:00 - 13:32)
- Allie reflects on co-hosting Charlie Kirk’s podcast following his assassination, emphasizing his Christian faith and urgent work for the Gospel.
- Personal Testimony: The loss of Charlie revealed both his far-reaching impact and the way God uses many in the Body of Christ for good even through tragedy. Allie discusses picking up Charlie’s work as part of Turning Point’s campus tour.
- God’s Sovereignty: Allie underscores the belief that God is in control, orchestrating events beyond what we can see.
- Quote [03:12]: “God is totally sovereign over our lives, every single bit of it. And when it looks like He's just doing one thing, He's actually doing a million things.” — Allie
2. Encouragement & The Ministry of the Body (06:08 - 13:32)
- Guest Andrew recounts the deep comfort received from a song sent by Matthew West, highlighting God’s orchestration of comfort and healing through believers' actions.
- Quote [06:29]: “I could feel myself letting go and dying to myself in that moment and saying, yes, Lord, yes.” — Andrew
- The "ripple effect" of small acts within the Body edifies and equips believers.
- Allie urges listeners to recognize everyone’s unique, vital role—whether public or private—in spreading the Gospel and building up others, especially in times of apparent revival.
3. The Call to Fervent Prayer & Spiritual Warfare (13:32 - 17:45)
- Encouragement to pray for Christian leaders, notably those under attack or facing trials (e.g., Christopher Yuan, Jonathan Pokluda).
- Reference to Ephesians 6 (“we are not primarily fighting against flesh and blood...”) and James 5 (the power of prayer).
- Quote [15:37]: “While God is totally sovereign, He has sovereignly chosen to use prayer... as a means by which we win people to Christ and also build up the Body.” — Allie
4. Stories of Transformation: From New Age to Faith (17:45 - 20:13)
- Allie shares listener testimonies of dramatic life change brought about by watching Charlie Kirk’s content—including a woman formerly practicing witchcraft.
- The takeaway: always speak the truth, as one never knows how God will use it.
5. Clarity on the Gospel: Pastor Costi Hinn (18:43 - 21:08)
- Pastor Costi Hinn delivers a succinct explanation of the Gospel, focusing on God’s holiness, human sin, and Christ’s redemptive work.
- Quote [18:45]: “One of the easiest ways to understand the gospel is God, man, Christ, response...” — Costi Hinn
- Advice for seasoned Christians to avoid cynicism about revival (referencing the “older brother” in the Prodigal Son parable).
- Quote [20:21]: “Reject a cynical spirit right at the root... seasoned saints, do not be that guy.” — Costi Hinn
6. Eschatology: The Rapture, Tribulation, and End Times (21:08 - 33:49)
- A summary of various Christian end-times views: post-millennialism, pre-millennialism (historic and dispensational), and the debate around the Rapture.
- Stuckey expresses skepticism over date-setting regarding Christ’s return, referencing Matthew 24:36-44.
- Quote [26:55]: “We know that we are not going to be able to predict when the Rapture happens... So when anyone says we know the Rapture is going to happen on this day, don't listen to them, period.” — Allie
- Encourages focus on readiness, faithfulness, and trusting God’s timeline.
7. Christian Protection Against Curses & Spiritual Attacks (33:49 - 44:21)
- Responds to Jezebel’s story about hiring “witches” to curse Charlie Kirk, affirming that evil exists and seeks to oppose good.
- “Evil clearly exists, and evil hates goodness and darkness hates light.” — Allie [33:58]
- Asserts that Christians are fully protected in Christ—no curse can affect a believer outside of God’s sovereign will.
- Supports this with Scripture: Galatians 3:13-14, Colossians 1:13-14, 1 John 1:7.
- “Nothing can befall you outside of God's sovereignty... remember, Christian, you are a new creation.” — Allie [35:25]
8. Don’t Be Distracted: Revival, Paranoia, and Christian Nationalism (44:21 - 54:17)
- Allie warns against two main distractions:
- Paranoia/Conspiracy (without evidence) detracting from the Gospel and real revival
- Accusations of “Christian nationalism” aimed at shaming believers who bring faith into public life
Memorable Commentary on Mainstream Critiques:
- Plays clips from critics (Don Lemon, MSNBC) and deconstructs the term “Christian nationalism” as used to silence Christians.
- Quote [46:15]: “This was a memorial... These were our top leaders exalting the name of Christ and declaring that Jesus is king. And guess what? ‘Jesus is king’ is what all Christians believe...” — Allie
- Christians, like anyone, have the right to bring their beliefs to public policy:
- “Christians get to bring the fullness of what we believe into the public sphere just like everyone else.”
9. The Christian Foundation of America & The “Christian Nationalism” Label (54:18 - 1:02:21)
- Plays a powerful clip of Charlie Kirk emphasizing America’s explicitly Christian founding:
- Quote [59:56]: “Nine out of 13 of the original states required you to be a Bible believing Christian to serve in government at the time of the founding... laws of nature and nature’s God...” — Charlie Kirk
- Allie refutes the idea that contemporary Christian political participation amounts to theocracy, instead arguing it’s an extension of pursuing justice and love for neighbor.
- “It is because of Christianity that all of you people... that hate America have been free to bring those ideas to the table.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |:-----|:-----|:------| | 03:12 | Allie | “God is totally sovereign over our lives, every single bit of it. And when it looks like He’s just doing one thing, He’s actually doing a million things.” | | 06:29 | Andrew | “I could feel myself letting go and dying to myself in that moment and saying, yes, Lord, yes.” | | 18:45 | Costi Hinn | “One of the easiest ways to understand the gospel is God, man, Christ, response...” | | 20:21 | Costi Hinn | “Reject a cynical spirit right at the root... seasoned saints, do not be that guy.” | | 26:55 | Allie | “We know that we are not going to be able to predict when the Rapture happens... So when anyone says we know the Rapture is going to happen on this day, don't listen to them, period.” | | 33:58 | Allie | “Evil clearly exists, and evil hates goodness and darkness hates light. And so that is why this demonic outlet called Jezebel tried to harness the powers of Satan to attack this emissary of light and goodness and the Gospel.” | | 35:25 | Allie | “You cannot be possessed by a demon, that no curse is going to befall you that is outside of God's protection. You actually cannot go outside of God's protection.” | | 46:15 | Allie | “This was a memorial... These were our top leaders exalting the name of Christ and declaring that Jesus is king. And guess what? ‘Jesus is king’ is what all Christians believe...” | | 59:56 | Charlie Kirk | "Nine out of 13 of the original states required you to be a Bible believing Christian to serve in government at the time of the founding, all 13 out of 13 required a declaration of faith." | | 1:01:30 | Allie | "It is because of Christianity that all of you people... that hate America have been free to bring those ideas to the table." |
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:00 – 06:08: Remembering Charlie K., honoring his legacy, God’s sovereignty
- 06:08 – 13:32: Testimony of healing through worship and community; call to prayer and contribution
- 13:32 – 17:45: Encouragement for bold witness, revival, and prayer for church leaders under attack
- 17:45 – 20:13: Story of New Age convert; impact of truth-telling
- 18:43 – 21:08: Costi Hinn explains Gospel, warns against revival cynicism
- 21:08 – 33:49: Rapture/eschatology primer and caution over date-setting
- 33:49 – 44:21: Jezebel, witchcraft, spiritual warfare — can Christians be cursed?
- 44:21 – 54:17: Warning against conspiracy, distractions from revival, and media fear-mongering over “Christian nationalism”
- 54:18 – 1:02:21: Charlie Kirk on Christian America’s founding, Allie’s critique of theocracy accusations
Tone
Allie’s delivery is passionate, urgent, and pastorally caring, mixing humor, frankness, and direct challenges both to Christians and mainstream critics. She is unapologetically conservative in theology and politics, focusing on biblical truth and encouraging engagement, vigilance, and trust in God’s sovereignty.
Conclusion
For listeners seeking clarity on spiritual warfare, the nature of Christian protection, the reality of evil, and biblical responses to cultural hostility, this episode offers rich, textured commentary—rooted in hope, Scriptural assurance, and practical guidance for Christian living in turbulent times.