Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey, Ep 1256
Title: My Response to No Kings Protesters Celebrating Charlie Kirk's Murder
Date: October 20, 2025
Host: Allie Beth Stuckey, Blaze Podcast Network
Overview
In this episode, Allie Beth Stuckey responds to recent “No Kings Day” protests, with a focus on demonstrators who celebrated the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Allie explores what these actions reveal about the state of left-wing activism, moral relativism, and the existence of objective evil. She also shifts focus to Christian persecution in Nigeria, a controversial attorney general race in Virginia, and recent news about Donald Trump’s position on IVF. Through direct, passionate commentary rooted in Christian conservative values, she offers both critique and encouragement, contending that truth persists regardless of the cultural climate.
Main Topics and Key Discussion Points
1. Objective Evil and the Gravity of Truth
- Theme: We live in an age where "lies are really easy and the truth is costly."
- Allie’s opening encouragement: Despite darkness in the world, God is sovereign, and believers can have hope based on biblical promises (Psalm 37).
“When it seems like evil is winning, we can always go back to Psalm 37… Jesus wins, Jesus is king.” (02:34, Allie)
2. No Kings Day Protests & Celebration of Charlie Kirk’s Murder
Background
- “No Kings Day” protests re-emerged, allegedly drawing 7 million participants across the U.S.
- Organizers claim opposition to “Trump’s tyranny,” but Allie questions what actions constitute dictatorship.
Protester Behavior & Evil on Display
- Protesters were seen celebrating Charlie Kirk’s assassination, with one woman mimicking his death and another protester dressed as the suspect in Kirk’s murder.
- Allie labels these acts as demonstrations of “objective evil.”
“How can you doubt that evil exists? And if objective evil exists, then something else has to exist, too… God.” (11:11, Allie)
Call for Social Accountability
- Allie advocates for social consequences (job loss) for people who openly celebrate or promote political violence, though she cautions against legal overreach unless violence is incited.
“There should be social consequences to being evil… I don’t want you teaching kids.” (13:27, Allie)
Elderly Protesters & 'Misplaced Mothering'
- Commentary on elderly protesters, discussing the “childlessness epidemic” and how virtue-signaling activism replaces more meaningful engagement.
"This is actually a consequence of like the childlessness epidemic that we have in society...." (15:37, Allie)
The Irony and Hypocrisy in “No Kings”
- Many protesters, while decrying Trump as a dictator, have supported policies Allie describes as authoritarian (mask mandates, forced vaccines, state overreach).
- Allie notes Democratic leaders’ long tenure contrasts with labeling Trump as “king.”
- Pinatas of Trump and children participating are highlighted as examples of teaching hate and violence.
Direct Threats Captured On Tape
- Protester on video expresses willingness to kill Stephen Miller, labeled as a “Nazi.”
Q: "So you’re gonna kill Stephen Miller?"
A: "If I had a chance, yeah, I would." (26:07, Protester/Caller)
Impact on “Normies”
- Upside: These extreme actions alienate moderate and suburban Americans, pushing them away from progressive movements.
“Most normie people are just naturally, like, repulsed by the movement represented by what we see here.” (28:05, Allie)
George Soros and Funding
- Allie discusses philanthropic funding for the protests, specifically naming George Soros’s Open Society Foundation and conceding protest irony (opposing “kings” yet reliant on billionaire support).
Notable Quote:
“Kings don’t allow you to protest against them… tyrannical kings don’t allow your individual rights. Like, that’s not what’s going on here.” (33:40, Allie)
3. Christian Persecution in Nigeria
Overview
- Allie highlights severe Christian persecution in Nigeria, where 7,000+ Christians have been killed in 2025 alone.
- Plays audio from a Nigerian pastor pleading for President Trump’s help during a burial for massacre victims.
“They are killing Christians in Nigeria. Massacre Christian.” (39:10, Nigerian Pastor)
- Contrasts Christian ideology (love, peace) with what she says is an inherently violent strain of radical Islam.
- Calls for prayer, advocacy, and proper prioritization of both U.S. and global Christian suffering.
4. Virginia Attorney General Race & the Normalization of Violent Rhetoric
The Jay Jones Texts
- Jay Jones, Democratic candidate for AG, caught in a scandal over 2022 texts fantasizing about killing Republican Speaker Todd Gilbert and his children.
- Allie compares mainstream Democratic tolerance of this to the insistence that Republicans denounce even fringe or juvenile right-wing extremists.
“We’re talking about a Democrat politician who is wanting people to die, who was wanting children to be dead. Like, it’s not even a comparison…” (52:32, Allie)
Progressive Violence as a Feature, Not a Bug
- Allie asserts that violent rhetoric is not incidental but intrinsic to leftist ideology, citing 20th-century collectivist regimes.
- Clarifies that while not every leftist is violent, the ideology has historically produced violence at scale.
Notable Quote:
“Within progressive ideology is violence… it’s not a bug, it is a feature.” (53:50, Allie)
5. Donald Trump’s IVF Initiatives and the Pro-Life Critique
Trump’s Announcement
- Trump advocates expanded access to IVF and lower costs.
- Dr. Mehmet Oz, Trump’s CMS head, celebrates, “There’s going to be a lot of Trump babies.”
Allie’s Pro-Life Objection
- Allie differentiates her pro-life position as not simply pro-“more babies,” but pro-“babies conceived ethically.” She opposes IVF due to embryo destruction, likening the loss of embryonic life through IVF as even greater than abortion.
“The IVF industry kills more babies every year than the abortion industry does.” (59:28, Allie)
- Cautions conservatives against supporting every means of conception if it results in destruction of embryonic life.
- Calls for continued education and advocacy within the conservative movement.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Evil on Display:
"How can you doubt that evil exists? And if objective evil exists, then something else has to exist, too… God." (11:11, Allie)
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On Social Consequences:
“There should be social consequences to being evil. And as I’ve said before, that doesn’t make me a radical. That doesn’t even make me anti-free speech." (13:35, Allie)
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On Hypocrisy:
“Kings don’t allow you to protest against them… tyrannical kings don’t allow your individual rights.” (33:40, Allie)
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On Progressive Violence:
“Within progressive ideology is violence… it’s not a bug, it is a feature of progressive ideology.” (53:50, Allie)
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On Pro-Life Consistency:
“The moral cost, the ethical cost, the human cost to IVF outweighs the benefits. It’s not only about not killing a baby inside the womb… Those embryos are people made in the image of God.” (59:34, Allie)
Important Segment Timestamps
- 00:00-02:45: Opening spiritual encouragement and context for the episode.
- 04:31-12:00: Description and video/picture breakdown of No Kings Day protests.
- 13:27-16:40: Discussion on social consequences for protesters and “misplaced mothering.”
- 18:37-19:07: Audio clips of protesters making extreme claims about Charlie Kirk.
- 26:03-26:40: Protester says he would kill Stephen Miller if he had a chance.
- 34:10-34:46: Rep. Mike Johnson mocks the protest's logic, highlighting irony.
- 39:10-39:50: Audio from a Nigerian pastor during mass burial, highlighting Christian persecution.
- 52:32-53:50: Analysis of Virginia AG race and the normalization of left-wing violence.
- 57:38-59:34: Trump’s IVF initiative and Allie’s pro-life analysis.
Conclusion & Tone
Allie Beth Stuckey emphasizes the reality of evil, the necessity of hope in Christ, and the call for Christians to be both compassionate and uncompromising. The episode balances sharp critique with encouragement for listeners to stay firm in their faith and worldview, to pray for persecuted Christians, and to carefully examine the moral dimensions of contemporary policy debates.
Closing Note:
“The Christian position on these things is unpopular. Not just on the left, but sometimes on the right. But these little lives and honoring God’s design, like these things are—they’re worth it.” (1:01:11, Allie)
For further exploration:
- Episodes on IVF ethics with guests Katie Faust and Jennifer Law
- Allie’s detailed coverage of Christian persecution and immigration policy in her book (see episode notes for specifics)
