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In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the emotional depth of Type 4 subtypes, revealing how each one adds a unique layer to this introspective and complex type. They’re joined by author and podcast host Heather MacFadyen, who gets real about her journey as a Type 4 and why it took her so long to pinpoint her subtype. Heather opens up about the tension between craving connection with a group and her natural ability to go deep with just one person. She also shares her passion for creating safe spaces for others to express tough emotions and how experiencing God’s acceptance transformed the way she sees herself. The episode wraps up with a lively round of What’s Your Number, where Heather spills her unfiltered thoughts on fake antiques, latte art, and beds overloaded with decorative pillows.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the emotional depth of Type 4 subtypes, revealing how each one adds a unique layer to this introspective and complex type. They’re joined by author and podcast host Heather MacFadyen, who gets real about her journey as a Type 4 and why it took her so long to pinpoint her subtype. Heather opens up about the tension between craving connection with a group and her natural ability to go deep with just one person. She also shares her passion for creating safe spaces for others to express tough emotions and how experiencing God’s acceptance transformed the way she sees herself. The episode wraps up with a lively round of What’s Your Number, where Heather spills her unfiltered thoughts on fake antiques, latte art, and beds overloaded with decorative pillows.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the subtypes of Type 3, breaking down how each one uniquely influences this driven type. They’re joined by psychologist and author Dr. Alison Cook who gets honest and personal as she explores her subtype. Lindsey and Alison talk about how hard it is to make things look easy and what the journey from image to authenticity looks like. The gang plays Pick Your Poison where Alison is forced to choose between two horrible options.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey dive into the subtypes of Type 3, breaking down how each one uniquely influences this driven type. They’re joined by psychologist and author Dr. Alison Cook who gets honest and personal as she explores her subtype. Lindsey and Alison talk about how hard it is to make things look easy and what the journey from image to authenticity looks like. The gang plays Pick Your Poison where Alison is forced to choose between two horrible options.

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey delve into the nurturing world of Type 2 subtypes—the caring helpers driven by a deep desire to be needed. They’re joined by Dr. Kristi Gaultiere, author and co-founder of Soul Shepherding, who shares her journey of learning to let others care for her and how her life story shaped this struggle. Kristi opens up about balancing psychological and spiritual work, and what it means to truly believe that all truth is God’s truth. She reflects on how solitude, once feeling like punishment, became the path to embracing God’s love for her beyond her service to others. The episode wraps up with a lively round of Trial By Trolley, where Kristi faces a hilarious moral dilemma: will she run over the person who invented pop-up ads or the identity thief who bought a yacht in her name?Connect with Kristi: https://www.soulshepherding.org/ https://www.instagram.com/kristigaultiere/?hl=en Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete EnneagramRuss Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.comRelateBetter Resources Conversation Starters Books Workshops Video Courses Articles

In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey delve into the nurturing world of Type 2 subtypes—the caring helpers driven by a deep desire to be needed. They’re joined by Dr. Kristi Gaultiere, author and co-founder of Soul Shepherding, who shares her journey of learning to let others care for her and how her life story shaped this struggle. Kristi opens up about balancing psychological and spiritual work, and what it means to truly believe that all truth is God’s truth. She reflects on how solitude, once feeling like punishment, became the path to embracing God’s love for her beyond her service to others. The episode wraps up with a lively round of Trial By Trolley, where Kristi faces a hilarious moral dilemma: will she run over the person who invented pop-up ads or the identity thief who bought a yacht in her name?Connect with Kristi: https://www.soulshepherding.org/ https://www.instagram.com/kristigaultiere/?hl=en Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete EnneagramRuss Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.comRelateBetter Resources Conversation Starters Books Workshops Video Courses Articles

Today, Jesse and Lindsey talk about the subtypes of the Type 1. They interview enneagram coach and pastor, Brian Lee. They discover Brian's subtype and how it shows up in his relationships. Brian shares about how his type operates in social situations.Connect with Brian: www.gospelcenteredenneagram.com/mystory myenneagramcoach.com/coach/brian-lee-2/ Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete EnneagramRuss Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.comRelateBetter Resources Conversation Starters Books Workshops Video Courses Articles

Today, Jesse and Lindsey talk about the subtypes of the Type 1. They interview enneagram coach and pastor, Brian Lee. They discover Brian's subtype and how it shows up in his relationships. Brian shares about how his type operates in social situations.Connect with Brian: www.gospelcenteredenneagram.com/mystory myenneagramcoach.com/coach/brian-lee-2/ Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete EnneagramRuss Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.comRelateBetter Resources Conversation Starters Books Workshops Video Courses Articles

“Why do people with the same Enneagram type act so differently?” In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey explore the fascinating world of Enneagram subtypes. Through personal stories and expert insights, they reveal how knowing your subtype can clarify long-standing patterns and even common mistypes. From the fortress-building self-preservation types to the community-driven social types and intensity-seeking “seekers,” this episode helps you identify your instinctual drive and balance it for more intentional relationships and self-growth. Discovering your subtype might just explain those subtle misalignments between your type and behavior—and give you the tools for true self-understanding.Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete EnneagramRuss Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.comRelateBetter Resources Conversation Starters Books Workshops Video Courses Articles

“Why do people with the same Enneagram type act so differently?” In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey explore the fascinating world of Enneagram subtypes. Through personal stories and expert insights, they reveal how knowing your subtype can clarify long-standing patterns and even common mistypes. From the fortress-building self-preservation types to the community-driven social types and intensity-seeking “seekers,” this episode helps you identify your instinctual drive and balance it for more intentional relationships and self-growth. Discovering your subtype might just explain those subtle misalignments between your type and behavior—and give you the tools for true self-understanding.Beatrice Chestnut's book: The Complete EnneagramRuss Hudson's Enneagram Next Level: www.enneagramnextlevel.comRelateBetter Resources Conversation Starters Books Workshops Video Courses Articles