John talks to Heather Younger — CEO of Employee Fanatix, 2-time TEDx speaker, attorney, workplace culture expert and speaker, best-selling author, host of the Leadership with Heart Podcast, wife, and mom of four. Heather's new book, The Art of Self-Leadership: Discover the Power Within You and Learn to Lead Yourself, was released on February 11, 2025.

Listen to this episode to learn more:

[00:00] - Intro

[01:34] - Heather’s bio

[04:19] - Heather’s new book: The Art of Self-Leadership

[06:55] - Caring leadership umbrella and how self-leadership fits into it

[08:54] - Who The Art of Self-Leadership book is intended for

[10:53] - Convincing unaware leaders that they need self-leadership to be effective

[12:53] - Why you should always buy multiple copies of a book

[15:36] - Tip for those with no budget for books

[17:19] - Why Heather wrote the book

[22:01] - People who give advice on something they have never done

[25:02] - The struggle with perfectionism and how to overcome it

[29:23] - Tips for discovering and leveraging your strengths

[31:04] - Why self-understanding matters

[33:02] - No one cares about a business more than the owner

[34:01] - Heather’s unique fashion style

[36:43] - Best way to connect with Heather

[37:15] - The best and worst things about being a speaker

[38:27] - How Heather keeps work and home life in harmony

[39:53] - Closing remarks

NOTABLE QUOTES:

"It’s really impossible to lead other people well if you can’t lead yourself well first."

"Stop waiting, for goodness sake, and begin to lead yourself. No one’s coming to save you, no one’s coming to open a door for you — you need to lodge it open just the way it is."

"We all have to go through the fire, we all have to hit the wall, in order to see that being stuck is not a fun place."

"Caring leadership is showing concern and kindness for those who look to you for guidance."

"We can't grow from a place of not knowing. So, that's why self-understanding is important."

"Nobody else is going to be there to advocate for you as much as you will for yourself. This is where self-leadership is at. How much do you own yourself in your journey?"

"The difference between progress and perfection is grace, too. To feel like we insert grace into the process because we know we're not going to be perfect, and we know that we're human in regard."

"The best part of speaking is meeting people. The worst part is not knowing where you land with them."

BOOK MENTIONED:

Who Moved My Cheese? by Spencer Johnson, M.D. (https://a.co/d/5ZwiLgh)

APP MENTIONED:

Hoopla https://www.hoopladigital.com/

USEFUL RESOURCES:

https://relationshipsandrevenue.libsyn.com/episode-139-heather-r-younger

https://heatheryounger.com/

https://employeefanatix.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherryounger/

https://www.instagram.com/heatherryoungerofficial/

https://www.facebook.com/hyounger2

https://x.com/HeatherRYounger

https://www.youtube.com/c/HeatherRYounger-EmployeeLoyalty-LeadershipExpert

Leadership with Heart Podcast (https://tinyurl.com/LeadershipWithHeartPodcast)

The Art of Self Leadership: Discover the Power Within You and Learn to Lead Yourself (https://a.co/d/icZ8old)

The Art of Caring Leadership: How Leading with Heart Uplifts Teams and Organizations (https://a.co/d/32mLJkL)

The Art of Active Listening: How People at Work Feel Heard, Valued, and Understood (https://a.co/d/eH6S1db)

Leading with Purpose: The Ultimate Masterclass Workbook (https://a.co/d/25k823o)

The 7 Intuitive Laws of Employee Loyalty: Fascinating Truths About What It Takes to Create Truly Loyal and Engaged Employees (https://a.co/d/73utzmw)

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EPISODE CREDITS

Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/