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God said it, I believe it. That settles it. I don't like that sticker. It should simply say, God said it, that settles it. Whether I believe in it or don't believe in it, if the Lord God Almighty opens His sacred mouth and makes a declaration, he doesn't need other witnesses to corroborate his testament. What he says is true.
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That is classic R.C. sproul. And it reflects his passion for the holiness of God and the authority and inerrancy of Scripture. Whatever God declares is true. Therefore, whatever Jesus says is true. Hello and welcome to the Sunday edition of Renewing youg Mind. And today we come to a provocative self declaration from the lips of Jesus. If you have your Bible handy, turn to John chapter 8 as we join RC Sproul.
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Our scripture this morning again is from the gospel according to St. John. We're in the eighth chapter and today I'll be reading verses 13 through 29. Hear then the word of God. The Pharisees therefore said to him, you bear witness of yourself. Your witness is not true. Jesus answered and said to them, even if I bear witness of myself, my witness is true. For I know where I came from and where I am going. But you do not know where I come from and where I am going. You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one. And yet if I do judge, my judgment is true. For I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent me. And it is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. I am one who bears witness of myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness of me. And then they said to him, where is your Father? Jesus answered, you know neither me nor my Father. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. These words spoke Jesus in the treasury as he taught in the temple, and no one laid hands on him, for his hour had not yet come. And then Jesus said to them, again, I am going away, and you will seek Me and will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come. So the Jews said, will he kill himself because he says, where I go, you cannot come? And he said to them, you are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am he, you will die in your sins. Then they said to him, who are you? And Jesus said to them, just what I have been saying to you from the beginning. I have many things to say and to judge concerning you. But he who sent me is true, and I speak to the world. Those things that I heard from him, they did not understand that he spoke to them of the Father. And then Jesus said to them, when you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, that I do nothing of myself. But as my Father taught me, I speak these things. And he who sent me is with me. The Father has not left me alone, for I always do those things that please Him. And as he spoke these words, many believed in him. Last Sunday we looked at the beginning of chapter 8. We end at verse 12, where Jesus made one of his famous I am statements. I am the light of the world. And he who follows me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life. And we read that the response of the Pharisees to this pronouncement of our Lord was bear witness of yourself. Your witness is not true. Now there are a couple of things we need to note in this response of the Jewish leaders to Jesus proclamation. The first thing they said was obvious that he was claiming to be something on the basis of his own testimony. He had just said, I am the light of the world. This was not John the Baptist declaring that Jesus was the light. This is Jesus himself making this affirmation. And under Jewish law, when testimony was given in the law court for someone to be convicted, they had to be convicted on the basis of two witnesses. And the two witnesses had to agree in what was testified. And so here is Jesus declaring on his own, using those words, ego imi, which call back to the title of God in the Old Testament, a title of deity. And he said, I am the light of the world. And they say, you're saying that by yourself, your witness is not true. Now you see, the inference that the leaders made at this point was that unless two testimonies were given that corroborated one another, then the testimony had to be false and that the witness of Christ was a false witness. I've said to you on many occasions how I react to that bumper sticker. God said it, I believe it, that settles it. I don't like that sticker. It should simply say, God said it, that settles it. Whether I believe in it or don't believe in it. If the Lord God Almighty opens his sacred mouth and makes a declaration, he doesn't need other witnesses to corroborate his testament. What he says is true. And here is the one who is the very incarnation of truth speaking to these leaders in Jerusalem. And they now forget about subtleties. They're in Jesus face. And they said, you're testimony is not true. They accused Christ of being a false witness. Now there's irony here, because in the Greek text, the Greek word for witness is the word martyria, from which we get the English word martyr. Because there's such a close relationship historically between the martyrs of the early church and their witness to the truth claims of Jesus. In other words, they bore witness to Christ by giving their lives. And because their testimony and their witness was so emphatic, because it involved their own blood. The word martyr has now come down in our language from the Greek word that means to bear witness. The irony is the first martyr of the Christian church was Christ himself. And in his martyrdom he bore supreme witness to the truth of the things that he is speaking even here. And so it terrifies me to think of anybody standing before Christ and saying, your testimony is false. If somebody says to me that my testimony is false, that's one thing. But to hear it from Jesus himself and to declare that his testimony is false is quite another. And yet, beloved, that's what every unbeliever in this world says to Jesus. Because the spirit of unbelief accuses Christ of false witness. And so Jesus responds to this charge and says to them, even if I bear witness of myself, my witness is true. Why? Because I know who I am. I know where I came from and where I'm going. But you don't know where I come from and where I am going. You judge according to the flesh. I judge no one. Now, this phrase is elliptical. And so what is understood here, when Jesus says, you judge according to the flesh. I judge no one. He is saying, I don't judge anybody that way. You judge everybody by the flesh. I don't ever judge by the flesh. I judge from the perspective where I came from. And of course, what he's saying is, my origin is heaven. I will ascend into heaven because I first descended from heaven. I know where I come from, and where I came from was eternity. But of course, he's speaking in a cryptic way to them at this point. I know where I came from. I know where I'm going. But you don't know where I come from. You don't know where I'm going. You judge according to the flesh. But if I judge my judgment is true. For I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent me. As it is written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. I am one who bears witness of myself. And the Father who sent me bears witness of me. Now again, when we hear this, when we read this, we know obviously in light of the rest of Scripture, that when Jesus refers to his Father who sent him, he's obviously referring to God who is his heavenly Father. But if you can put yourself in the shoes of these people who first heard Jesus make this affirmation, they're scratching their heads when he says, you know, my Father sent me here. And my father backs up my witness. My father agrees with the testimony that I give and he testifies to me. What are you talking about, Joseph? Who's he to back up your testimony? When we were kids, I had a friend who live up the street. He got in more fights than anybody in the community. He got beat up every time. And every time he got beat up, he would go away crying and he would say, I'm going to get my cousin and my cousin will come and beat you up. Now is there any boy who hasn't done that or said that, I'm going to get my brother? I wouldn't say that God didn't have a brother. I'd say, my sister's going to come and get you. Because she could take care of most of these guys. But we had Eric, who was always talking about his cousin. Wouldn't you know, a few years ago at one of the PCA ministry conventions, I met a fellow who had the same last name. And I said, you're not related to Eric, are you? That's my cousin. I was afraid he was going to say, I've been looking for you for 20 years. But there's always this idea, I'm going to get my dad. My dad's bigger than your dad. And so they're looking around to see who this father is to whom Jesus is appealing, who has so much authority that he sent Jesus to say what he's saying and who is going to back up that testimony. They have no idea that he's speaking of his heavenly Father. And so Jesus said, it's not my self testimony. And as this interrogation continues, throughout the Gospel of John, we see Jesus appealing to the writings of the sacred scriptures of the Old Testament that were the word of God that the Father had given to the Jewish people that bore witness to his son who was to come. These people obviously weren't present when the heavens opened And God declared with a voice that was audible at the time of Jesus baptism, this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Nicodemus got it. We remember when Nicodemus came to Jesus at night and he said, teacher, we know that you are sent by God, or you would not be able to do the things that you were doing. Nicodemus understood the function of miracle. I hear people say that the miracles of the New Testament prove the existence of God. No, they don't. God demonstrates his existence long before a single miracle is ever performed by anybody. The function of the miracle is not to prove the existence of God, but it is to demonstrate and authenticate a messenger of God. That's why Jesus said, if you don't believe me for what I say, believe me for my works that I do. But here he doesn't talk about God. He talks about the Father. And he says, a string of contrasts. Here, notice this. He said, I know where I came from, and I know where I'm going. You don't know where I come from. You don't know where I'm going. You judge according to the flesh. I don't judge according to the flesh. And yet if I do judge, my judgment is true. I am one who bears witness of myself, and so on. And they said, where is your Father? Now here's a verse that we need to pay close attention to. Jesus said, you don't know me or my Father because if you had known me, you would have known my Father also. I came to you. You don't know where I came from, and you don't know who I am. And the reason you don't know who I am is because you don't know my Father. Now later on, he'll turn this around when they appeal to be children of God. And he will say to them, you don't know the Father, because if you knew the Father, you would know the Son. There are millions, if not billions of people out there in this world who claim to know God, who claim to know God as their Father, yet they reject the Son. You cannot know God the Father and repudiate the Son. And you cannot know the Son and repudiate the Father, because their testimony is one. The Father bears witness to the Son, the Son bears witness to the Father. These words Jesus spoke in the treasury as he taught in the temple. The treasury. There was a portion of the temple. They had 13 receptacles that were shaped in the form of the shofar, the ram's horn. And each one had inscribed upon it a different need or concern where the alms would be used to alleviate suffering in the community. And in the midst of this place where the donations were given the greatest gift that God has given us is attacked. But no one laid hands on him. For his hour had not yet come. How many times do we get that strange foreboding comment throughout the Gospel of John where Jesus speaks it, or John speaks with respect to Jesus hour, My hour has not yet come. Oscar Cullmann, the Swiss New Testament scholar, wrote a trilogy of books that were very important in the 20th century, one of which was called simply Christ, Christ and Time, where Cullman analyzed in great detail and in great depth the time words that we find in Sacred Scripture. He noted, for example, that in our language we have one word for time, two words. In the Greek, there's the word chronos. This is called a wristwatch. More technically, it's called a chronometer, something that measures chronos. It measures the moment by moment, passage of time. And that's one way in which the Bible speaks of the word time in terms of chronological sequence. But there's another word for time in the Greek that is pregnant with meaning. And it is the word kairos. And the word kairos refers to a specific moment in time. We have something close to it, but not exactly. In our language, we distinguish between the words historical and historic. Somebody just said to me the other day, such and such was a historical moment. And I smiled and I said, every moment's a historical moment. What he meant was, it was a historic moment, a moment that was of great significance, a moment that would define the future, a moment in which the movement of the past had reached its climax. And throughout Scripture, we have many such moments, chirotic moments. The Exodus is a chirotic moment. The birth of Christ is a chirotic moment. The cross is a chirotic moment. It's a moment in time that. That is so pregnant that it defines all of time. And that time Jesus keeps referring to as his hour. But there's also a little vacillation in the use of this term hour in the Bible. Sometimes it is filled with the idea of the hour of glory, the hour of exultation, his finest hour. But other times, it refers to the darkest moment of Christ's life, the hour of his agony, the hour of his grand passion, the hour of his suffering and of his death. But again, there's irony in this very text. Here. Let me just drop down here for a second. Jesus says in verse 28, when you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing of myself. But as my Father taught me, I speak these things. And what does Jesus mean when he says, when I am lifted up? It is clear that there is a double significance to this, because his hour comes when he is lifted up on the cross to be crucified. And that's what he's talking about when he said, I'm going away, and where I'm going, you can't come. The initial movement there is not about his ascension into heaven, but he's talking now about leaving them. And they are confused by this. They said, is he going to kill himself? He could have answered, no, you're going to do it for me. But when I am lifted up on the cross, that being lifted up as a public spectacle of scorn and hatred and animosity is also the time of his exaltation as the Redeemer of His people. It is at once his darkest hour and at the same time his greatest hour, as it is in that hour that he brings us our redemption. The contrast continues in verse 23. You're from beneath, I'm from above. You're from this world, therefore I'm not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins, for you do not believe that I am He Egoimi. You will die in your sins. Let me just conclude this with this careful warning in the Bible. When the Bible speaks of death, friends, it speaks of dying in one of two ways. For the people of God, for the saints of the Old Testament and of the New Testament, their death is precious in the sight of God. And it is said of them when they pass, that they die in faith. And all of those who die in faith enter into that place that God has prepared for his people from the foundation of the world. The only other way you can die is to die in your sins.
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Host: Ligonier Ministries (featuring Dr. R.C. Sproul)
Scripture Focus: John 8:13–29
This episode delves into Jesus’ bold self-declaration in John 8, focusing on the question of Christ’s authority to testify about Himself and the nature of true witness. Dr. R.C. Sproul explores the dialogue between Jesus and the Pharisees, unpacks theological subtleties regarding “witness,” and emphasizes the exclusive relationship between knowing the Father and knowing the Son. The teaching centers on the significance of Jesus' words, the role of divine witness, and the gravity of either dying "in faith" or "in your sins."
In this powerful episode, Dr. Sproul illuminated the eternal weight of Jesus’ declarations about Himself, refuting the Pharisaic challenge to His authority. The teaching emphasized that Jesus’ testimony, corroborated by the Father, stands above all human standards of validation. Ultimately, the most pressing issue is our response: will we die in faith, trusting the Witness who was lifted up for our redemption, or die in our sins, denying the only true Son of God?