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Rethinking Manhood
Hosted by Destyn for Greatness · EN
Rethinking Manhood is all about bringing men together to unlearn patriarchal masculinity, and intentionally making space for men to heal, grow, and learn in community. If you're looking for a way to support Rethinking Manhood check out my Buy Me a Coffee page! (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/destyn) Your support (in every way) means a lot to me!
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S3, E8: Reshaping Masculinity with Dr. Jason Larocque (@coachlarocque)
Jun 2601:09:54Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)What happens when a 45-year-old man experiences catcalling for the first time? For Dr. Jason Larocque, that uncomfortable moment on St. Patrick's Day provided a striking glimpse into what many women experience routinely – feeling unsafe, self-conscious, and vulnerable in public spaces. This revelation is just one of the powerful insights shared in our conversation about masculinity, emotional awareness, and creating spaces where boys can truly thrive.Jason Larocque, an all-boys educator with nearly 20 years of experience, shares insights on masculinity, gender equity, and creating spaces where boys can develop authentic identities beyond harmful cultural messaging. His personal "fish out of water" moment experiencing catcalling gave him newfound understanding of what women regularly face, while his doctoral research revealed how men's healing journeys impact their ability to guide boys effectively.In today's episode we discuss the following:Creating school environments where boys can express vulnerability, discuss emotions, and develop authentic identitiesThe importance of being "co-conspirators" with boys rather than lecturing themHow patriarchy creates a pattern of privilege paired with emotional neglect for boysThe transformative power of therapy and building emotional vocabularyThe impact of men modeling vulnerability and emotional awarenessBuilding deeper male relationships through shared experiences and vulnerabilityHelping boys develop multi-faceted identities beyond sports or single achievementsCountering the "manosphere" messaging that emphasizes strength and domination over connection and communityFor more information on Jason's work and speaking engagements on healthy masculinity, team building, culture, and gender equity, visit https://www.coachlarocque.com/Support the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S3, E7: Ashley Paul Breaks Down Authentic Black Male Friendships in Media and the Gender Wars
May 20, 202501:17:30Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)In this episode of Rethinking Manhood, I get to sit down with Ashley Paul (@driedinkpen), a brilliant content contributor with @FeministBookClub.About Ashley: Ashley Paul is a traveler, runner, and baker. She is an Everlasting Bookworm and Culture Maven. She is passionate about supporting high school juniors and seniors to write compelling stories for their post-secondary careers. She loves stories with social commentary, atmospheric writing, and compelling characters.About the Episode:Together we talk about the divide between Black men and women (the gender wars) that has become a cultural flashpoint, fueled by social media algorithms and the temptation to reduce complex human relationships to oversimplified stereotypes. But what happens when we pause the gender wars to examine what authentic connection might look like?Ashley unpacks a different pathway forward: "Black men and women need to earn each other." This isn't about creating more hoops to jump through, but rather acknowledging that meaningful relationships require intentional effort and respect rather than assumptions. Ashley shares how her own friendships with men have evolved from childhood playground interactions to adult relationships grounded in mutual respect and understanding.We dive deep into media representations that drive wedges between Black men and women, examining how these portrayals influence everything from dating experiences to platonic friendships. The conversation takes unexpected turns, from analyzing Kendrick Lamar and Drake to discussing how churches simultaneously preserve cultural touchstones while sometimes reinforcing harmful gender dynamics.MY FAVORITE PART OF THE EPISODE! We celebrate the rich tapestry of positive Black male relationships already depicted in media – from classic sitcoms like The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air to contemporary shows like Johnson – proving that healthy Black masculinity has always existed when we know where to look. Links and Resources: Purchase My Book: The Rules We Live By Stories and Reflections on Unlearning Patriarchal Masculinity Connect with Feminist Book Club! Support the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S3, E6: #TheWarmUp: Holding My Daughter, Unlearning Patriarchy
May 6, 202500:26:37Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)It’s 4 a.m. I’m pacing around the house with my newborn daughter in my arms, AirPods in, and just reflecting—on fatherhood, partnership, and the quiet ways patriarchy shows up in our lives.In this intimate, unfiltered episode, I open up about becoming a dad, what labor and delivery taught me about gender roles, and why I’ve been choosing to spend less time podcasting and more time being present for my wife and baby girl. I talk about how parenting has revealed the low expectations placed on fathers, how emotional labor is distributed in most family systems, and why raising a daughter who sees gentleness and presence as strength is its own form of resistance.I also explore a question I’ve been sitting with: Why do we often center boys when we talk about resisting patriarchy? What does it mean to raise girls to unlearn it too?Credits:🎵 Music: • Intro: Who I Am, Sam Ock, and 100% Clearance through Musicbed. • Original Piece – Destyn LandSupport the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S3, E5: Rethinking ANGER with Lambers Fisher LMFT, M.Div
Apr 22, 202501:02:12Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)About the Episode:Anger is often seen as a negative emotion, but what if it’s not? In this episode, Destyn sits down with therapist and author Lambers Fisher, LMFT, M.Div to unpack the complexities of anger—what it really is, how it’s tied to masculinity, and why it doesn’t have to be destructive. Together, they explore healthier ways to navigate anger, challenge harmful narratives, and discuss how therapy can be a powerful tool in managing emotions.Tune in for an honest conversation about rethinking anger and making space for healthier emotional expression.About Lambers:Lambers is a marriage and family therapist who has counseled individuals, couples, and families from a variety of cultural backgrounds, in private practice, non-profit organizations, as well as ministry environments. He has a strong desire to help counseling professionals in various fields feel more comfortable, competent and confident in their ability to meet the needs of whomever they have the opportunity to serve. Lambers' training experience includes facilitating workshops, guest lecturing, as well as being an adjunct instructor at Crown College on various aspects of diversity in counseling. Lambers is the author of the award-winning book, Diversity in Clinical Practice: A Practical & Shame-Free Guide to Reducing Cultural Offenses & Repairing Cross-Cultural Relationships Buy Lambers Book!Visit Lambers Website! Listen to the Diversity Dude Podcast with Lambers FisherCredits:🎵 Music: • Intro: Who I Am, Sam Ock, and 100% Clearance through Musicbed. • Original Piece – Destyn Land🕓 TikTok Video:https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2h8w7G1/ 📖 Book Referenced: • The Rules We Live By – Destyn LandSupport the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S3, E4: Do Black Men TEACH? Markus Flynn talks about the importance of Black Male Educators
Mar 18, 202501:02:51Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)In this episode, I connect with Markus Flynn, Executive Director of Black Men Teach, a nonprofit dedicated to increasing Black male representation in Minnesota classrooms. Their mission is to recruit, prepare, place, and retain Black male elementary school teachers—shaping the next generation of educators and improving outcomes for students of color.Markus and I dive into some key conversations, including: • The unique challenges Black male educators face in K-12 settings • Why representation matters and how it impacts students • How societal expectations often discourage men from pursuing careers in educationConsider supporting Black Men Teach and their important work: https://blackmenteach.salsalabs.org/onlinedonationform/index.htmlHere's some additional ways to get connected with Black Men Teach: Black Men Teach WebsiteBlack Men Teach Instagram Black Men Teach LinkedInCredits:🎵 Music: • Intro: Who I Am, Sam Ock, and 100% Clearance through Musicbed. • Original Piece: 38th and Chicago – Destyn LandSupport the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S3, E3: #TheWarmUp: Sitting with Emotions & Therapy
Mar 4, 202500:34:44Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)Welcome to #TheWarmUp! The Warm Up is unfiltered and uncut—not because it’s provocative or explicit, but because it’s real. It’s unedited, largely unplanned, and deeply vulnerable. A space to sit with authentic thoughts and process in real time.In this episode, Destyn talks about the challenge of sitting with our emotions and how therapy helped him learn to process them as they come.Credits:🎵 Music: • Intro: Who I Am, Sam Ock, and 100% Clearance through Musicbed. • Original Piece: 38th and Chicago – Destyn Land📖 Book Referenced: • The Rules We Live By – Destyn LandSupport the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
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S3, E2: Seth talks about White Saviorism, Faith, Shame & Community
Feb 18, 202501:12:31Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)In this episode of Rethinking Manhood, I catch up with my great friend, Seth McManus (@prayingmcmantis). He opens up the episode describing himself as "a recovering White savior." This leads us to a pathway of exploring how unlearning patriarchal masculinity, racism, and anything else, is indeed a life long journey. Seth shares about his Christian faith, how he's experienced shame, and the importance of community. Check out Seth! Support his intercultural ministry work.Follow him on Instagram Listen to his podcast, "Not at the Dinner Table" Credits:🎵 Music: • Intro: Who I Am, Sam Ock, and 100% Clearance through Musicbed. • Original Piece: 38th and Chicago – Destyn Land📖 Book Referenced: • The Rules We Live By – Destyn LandSupport the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S3, E1: #TheWarmUp: Destyn talks about navigating Shame
Feb 4, 202500:29:09Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)Welcome to #TheWarmUp, a solo episode of Rethinking Manhood with your host, Destyn Land. In this session, Destyn sips his coffee and unpacks the role of shame in different seasons of his life—how it’s surfaced, how he’s navigated it, and the lessons he’s learned along the way.Credits:🎵 Music: • Intro: Who I Am, Sam Ock, and 100% Clearance through Musicbed. • Original Piece: 38th and Chicago – Destyn Land📖 Book Referenced: • The Rules We Live By – Destyn LandSupport the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S2, E8: Patriarchy & Romantic Relationships, Sex, & Touch with Johnny Cole (@johnstagram_1)
Dec 13, 202201:10:10Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)About this Episode:After a 2 week break, we're back again! This episode I am joined with one of my soul friends (Johnny Cole). Every conversation I've had with Johnny always hits beyond the surface, and feels filling and life-giving. In this episode I have the opportunity to interview Johnny and talk about how patriarchy has shaped their relationships (both romantic and platonic), their relationship to touch, and of course we talked a bit about sex too! More about Johnny!Johnny is "healing men from living in the patriarchy, one conversation at a time" through various Men's Retreat and through their newly founded organization "Hey Brother Co" Interested in getting connected with Hey Brother Co? Complete the following form. "Please submit your contact information if you are interested in learning more about Hey Brother Co., a new men's work organization. We are a growing community of men who seek introspection, leadership, community, authentic bonds with other men, learning emotional regulation, and overall improvements to well-being. This is an inclusive community for all men/masculine folx, and our diversity is our greatest asset, with our identities as men being our strongest bond."In case you missed it: Click this to get connected! Thank you again for listening. It means the world <3 Support the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
Transcribe →S2, E7: The Construction of Black Masculinity & Reflections
Nov 22, 202200:25:09Tap to summarizeWe want to hear from you! Send us a text with your thoughts or feedback! :)In this episode I discuss The Construction of Black Masculinity and reflect on how my interest in exploring Black Masculinity led to the creation of this podcast, and the content that's created on Rethinking Manhood. Here are some of the sources that have helped shape this conversation! (And some additional articles to check out!) Collins, P. H. (2005). Black sexual politics: African Americans, gender, and the new racism. New York: Routledge.Ferber, A. (2007). The Construction of Black Masculinity: White Supremacy Now and Then. Journal of Sport & Social Issues.Majors, R. (2017). Contemporary Themes: African Americans in Sport.Stuart, F., & Benezra, A. (2018). Criminalized Masculinities: How Policing Shapes the Construction of Gender and Sexuality in Poor Black Communities. Social Problems, 65(2).I love you all and thanks for listening! <3 Support the showWant to get more connected with Rethinking Manhood?Follow us on InstagramSupport through our BuyMeACoffee PageSend us an email at rethinkingmanhood@gmail.comVisit my website at destynland.com
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