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Kevin Allison
Hello folks, this is Risk, the show where people tell true stories they never thought they'd dare to share. I'm Kevin all and every Thursday we release these special episodes where we look back at content from our earlier years. And this week, in honor of St. Patrick's Day, we're calling this one the Best of Drinking Stories. You know, those kind of stories tend to have their good, bad and ugly sides, as does St. Patrick's Day itself. But before we get to the stories, I Want to bring up our tour dates coming up? It's been years since Risk has been on the road, but we will be live in New York at Caveat on Thursday, March 26, in Atlanta at Aisle 5 on Thursday, May 8, in Washington, D.C. at Miracle Theater on Saturday, June 7, in Philadelphia at Fringe Arts on Thursday, June 19, and back in New York on Thursday, June 26. So all the information about how to see our live shows is at risk-show.com submissions. And remember that we're also looking for pitches of stories for Atlanta, D.C. and Philly. So pitch us. That is all at risk-show.com submissions. Okay, now, the best of drinking stories. In a little bit, we're going to hear from Morgan Bartlett, but before that, a story by my good friend Mather Zickle. Mather has been in so many TV and film projects, and you can find him on Instagram at matherp Zickle. Here he is now with a story we call I love you, man.
Ryan Seacrest
It's a story that took place during my freshman year at nyu, when I was living actually only a couple of blocks from here, a few blocks away, 3rd Avenue North Dorm, which is on 3rd Avenue and 11th street, and it's right across from the Lowes theater, which in 1988 was still a crack house, actually. No kidding. Neighborhood's changed. So, you know, I was very excited to come to nyu. I didn't want to be anywhere else in the world. I wanted to be in New York. I was very excited to be studying theater with other people who, you know, who shared this passion and interest. And yet, somehow I still felt lonely and isolated, as I'm sure, you know, a lot of new students must have felt at NYU or any college, like, when they first arrived. And it was very disappointing to me because I, you know, I thought, like, this should feel like home. This should feel like home. And why do I still have these feelings? And I actually grew up very close to the city in Westchester, and, you know, I felt like I was familiar with the city. And why did it feel. Why was I still, you know, feeling these, you know, this sense of. This lack of confidence, maybe this isolation from other people, you know, And I took myself very seriously. I, you know, I was shy. It was hard for me to meet people. And I like to drink. I like to drink a lot more than I do now. And there were several incidents in college where I would drink to blackout status, which I don't know if, you know, blackout, but it means functioning somewhat. Somewhat ambulatory, but completely unaware of your actions and certainly leaves you with no memory the next day of what might have happened. So I would. You know, there were a few incidents where I would. I would wake up the next day with bruises, eyeglasses, crumpled up into a little ball. I would have friends tell me how they had prevented me from entering the subway system through a loose grate in the sidewalk, or how I violently attacked a bunch of Christmas trees outside of a deli for no reason. Couldn't remember any of it. None of it. On this particular night, I was going to a party. This was. Yeah, fall 88. First freshman year, first semester, I went to a party on the Lower east side that a friend of mine was throwing. And this was interesting because she had an apartment and no one had an apartment freshman year. I mean, this seemed very, very adult. Everybody else was living in dorms and, you know, eating cafeteria food. And I went to this party, and I brought a fifth of Jack Daniels, because even though I was 18 years old, I looked 35 as a teenager, and no one ever carded me. I could always buy alcohol. And I remember going to this. Up the twisty tenement staircase and whatever building down on the Lower east side and thinking, like, it just looks so old and cramped and small. I wasn't used to this. I thought I knew New York, but this was. You know, this was new. And, like, was I gonna wind up in a place like this? And, of course, the answer is yes. And still, true to this day, I don't remember much about the party. I. You know, I got drinking pretty fast. I. You know, I remember feeling warm and, like, you know, and chatty and, you know, the level in the bottle just, you know, kept going down and down and down. And eventually it was empty. And I'm pretty certain that no one else had had a sip of it. I think I'd been slugging the whole bottle myself. And I took this as a cue to, you know, wrap things up and go home and, you know, and quit while I was ahead because I'd had a nice time. I was feeling kind of lit. You know, I was warm and, like, feeling good. And I felt good about the party. Like, you know, things had gone well, you know, nothing. Nothing happened. I don't know who I talked to or what it was, you know, but it was. It was fine. It's like, all right, let's get out of here. So. And I remember going down this, you know, the vertiginous stairs, you know, down, you know, out of the building and then out into the cold November night. It was around the holidays, I think. I think it was a holiday party. This was all about probably within 10 or 15 blocks of the dorm. It wasn't very far, and I think it was probably on Houston or, you know, but honestly, it could have happened right outside this theater. Could have been right out in Lafayette. I really don't know. But, you know, a homeless guy was, you know, sitting against the building, and he asked me for some change. And I, you know, immediately started digging into my pockets. I mean, you know, I was high on this cocktail of 15 parts Jack Daniels and one part milk of human kindness. And, you know, I was just, yes, of course, my good man, would be my illimitable pleasure to give you a dime, you know, and this is kind of where the lights go out, you know, I don't know anybody who's ever drunk too much or taken too many drugs knows what I'm talking about. If you haven't done that, good for you. But I can describe it in cinematic terms. What happens there is called a jump cut. Next thing I remember, I was sitting and Ray's Pizza on Third Avenue, still in the neighborhood. Good thing, you know, And I'm sitting in the back at a table and I'm having pizza, and this man is sitting right across the table from me. And I was, I think, pretty much in the middle of telling him my life story. I was getting, you know, some. Just some heavy shit off my chest. And I'm fairly certain that I was openly weeping. I really think I was just like, tears are just pouring down. And I. And I think I don't remember what we were talking about, but I think the crux of the conversation had to do with, you know, my childhood, you know, and feeling sort of alone and, you know, sense of ennui. Growing up in Westchester county and, you know, and, like. And, you know, and then getting sent away to a boarding school in Connecticut before I was really ready to leave home. And I was lonely. And it was, like, in more than three hours, away from my friends and my family, and I was surrounded by people who didn't get me, necessarily. And then, you know, this is just followed by, you know, going to nyu, where, you know, here I am, I'm studying acting at a private university, and I don't even have, you know, I don't even have to pay my student loans, you know, and I probably wouldn't even be able to if I had to. And yet I'm still filled with this feeling of this lack of confidence and, you know, and this Sneaking suspicion that I might not actually be the unique, unusual individual that I suspected I might be. And you know what? In my dating life, what a fucking joke that is. You know, I mean, I don't have a dating. You know, I was still desperately in love with this girl from high school who did not share my feelings and probably never would. And, I mean, fuck love. Fuck it. I mean, fuck it. You gotta be tough in this life. And this guy knew what I meant. This guy knew what I meant. No, I mean, like, he was sitting there and he was so calm and, you know, this serene sort of, like, knowing presence. And I'm almost certain that this guy had seen tougher times than me. I mean, this guy knew what, you know, with the whole not having a home thing. And, you know, I mean, he knew what I meant. And, like. And I just. I trusted him. He seemed wise and resilient, and I thought kind. I thought kind. And before I had a chance to really ponder any of these questions, we have another jump cut. We have a jump cut, except not to another scene. We have a jump cut right to the end of the movie. Like, past the credits, past the. You know, past the funny outtakes at the end. You know, past the NPA rating symbol. I mean, you know, the curtain was down, the lights were up. This was over. I woke up the next day. I was, you know, still in my clothes from the night before, obviously very hungover. And I shared a suite with five other guys. You know, it was like a common room and three bedrooms. And I. You know, I walked out and they looked at me. You know, they looked at me like I had just returned from an alien abduction. I mean, like, they looked at me. You know, they. It was as if I was gonna start speaking in tongues or, you know, burst into flames or something. I mean, they were. They said, like, when I came home the night before that, I was so. I was acting so drunk, they thought I was kidding. I thought I was doing a bad drunk act because I was literally slamming against walls and falling down. I almost drowned in the toilet. My roommate had socked me in the chest because at some point I had passed out and had stopped breathing. So he kind of, like, you know, to get the motor running again, and I walked. I was like, you know, I went to find some breakfast. So I walked out, and I was heading out of the dorm, was walking out of the door of the dorm, and the security guard was like, hey, man, where's your friend? Because I tried to give the homeless.
Kevin Allison
Guy a home.
Ryan Seacrest
And I was I don't remember any of it, you know, and the card was I thanked him for, you know, I guess, you know, was probably using his best judgment not to let the guy in. I thanked him for that and he was like, oh no, I would have let him in. He just didn't have any id. I think back on this and, you know, it was clear that I wanted to. Not only did I want to connect with someone, but it was very important for me to feel like a good person and that I was doing the, I was doing good stuff, I was doing the right thing. I don't know what this man must have thought of me. Who knows? I mean, you know, he came along with me, he got pizza, you know, he, you know, he decided to hang out with me for an hour or hours, however long we were together. I mean, obviously, obviously the idea of free pizza was very enticing. You know, he could have just been waiting for a good opportunity to rob me. I don't know, I like to think that, you know, that he just saw like a mixed up drunk kid who, you know, had bought him dinner and, you know, offered him a place to stay and, you know, and probably just needed a little looking after. Not get hit by a car or something, you know, just a little an exchange of holiday brotherhood between strangers. Or he was thinking that there was going to be an exchange of cash for a holiday hand job, I don't know. In which case he went home disappointed, as far as I can tell. Thank you. You'll be right back.
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Carrie Underwood
I moved to New York about seven years ago and I couldn't believe how fabulous it was here. And when I moved here, I fell in with a bunch of people who liked to party as much as I did. I developed a mild to moderate cocaine habit, I would say during that time, drank an awful lot, was having a great time. And the only problem, well, the only problem as far as I could see it with this lifestyle was I was having trouble finding a boyfriend. And I remember being in the toilets of a club on the Lower east side with a friend of mine, doing lines off of a filthy toilet, chopping up these lines of cocaine, snorting them and being like, yeah, I mean, I just can't. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble finding a man and her being like, yeah, I mean, I can't imagine either. You're so cool and you're so awesome. We were like, yeah, we're great, we're awesome. That was pretty much the lay of the land when this story begins. Before this, I had also, I'd broken my ankle a few weeks beforehand, so I had an ankle in a cast. And I was hobbling up First Avenue to go to this pub to meet these friends of mine. And so I got there and walked in and they were sitting with this gorgeous Nigerian doctor. So I did my best to sort of sashay in sexily on crutches with a cast, which isn't easy to do, but apparently I managed to do it because we got on like a house on fire. One thing led to another and he came back to my house and it turned out that he was leaving in a month to move to la. So he's packing up all his stuff and leaving. But it was great. It really meant that we could have this really light hearted fling and there was sort of no immediate consequences. The month, you know, came to an end and so I had invited him to come to a show that I was going to. And to my surprise, he turned up and I was so thrilled. It was like two days before he was gonna leave and I bought him champagne to wish him well on his trip. And we were having this great time and then I went back to his place and I hadn't actually stayed at his place before. He'd always come to stay at my place, so we weren't really paying attention. We were both a little bit drunk and we were making out in the elevator and making out in the hallway and we got into his place and I remember kind of saying hi to his roommates and then going to bed. And just before I fell asleep, I remember really just thinking, I really, really need to go to. I really need to pee. I really need to go to the Bathroom. But I just. I couldn't. I can't be bothered to get up. I was exhausted. And then I fell asleep. And I had this dream that I was trying to get to the bathroom. And I was going through all of these hallways, pushing all these really big metal doors, and I couldn't get through. And I felt really trapped, and I was really, really frustrated. And then I woke up, and I was pushing and shoving a big metal door. And I looked around me, and I had no idea where I was. There was. I was in a stairwell, and I was completely naked. And I had absolutely no idea how I got there. And waking up from sleepwalking, it takes a few seconds. But what feels like a much longer time, I think, for your consciousness to fully realize that you're not dreaming anymore. And your logical mind is trying to wrap itself around what's happening. And I just stood there naked in this stairwell. Just. My mind was melting, basically. So the first thing I did when I sort of came to Washington to turn around, throw open the door and run to where I assumed his apartment was. And I was just twisting the handle and pushing against this door. When I looked up and looked around and there were a bunch of other doors that looked exactly the same. And I had no idea which door was his door. I couldn't swear to it. And so I ran straight back into the stairwell. And I really, really, really needed to go to the bathroom at this point. Point. And I just thought, well, the first thing, before I can think straight, I just have to pee. I have to pee. And I just thought, well, I don't want to pee on anybody's floor on the floor where people live. So I'll go down and pee on the ground floor by the lobby. I don't know why I thought that was a good idea, but I did. So I ran downstairs completely naked. And I leaned in the corner. Oh, God. And I think this, I have to say, I think I could safely say is the lowest point of my life so far. I hope I never sink any lower than this. I had one arm on the door, trying to keep it shut. So if anybody wanted to come in, they wouldn't be able to. Another on the wall to balance myself. And I was hunkered down and I peed at the bottom of the stairwell. And anyone. Any ladies who've been camping can tell you that you have to look for sloped ground if you want to pee and not pee all over yourself when you're camping. And obviously that wasn't the case in the st. So I was peeing all over my feet, completely naked in the stairwell. And I don't talk to God very often, but I did pray at that point and was just sobbing looking up. I was like a little animal, I was like a little vulnerable animal just looking up the stairwell saying, please, God, please, please, please. I swear, I swear I'll be good. I'll never do any cocaine again. Just don't let anybody come down the stairs. Please, please, please, please, please. Ran back upstairs and I had actually, funny enough, just spoken to a friend of mine about a time he got locked out of a hotel room naked. And he said, look, the one thing you have to remember, if anyone, if anyone catches you naked, you don't want them to catch you standing still. So just keep moving, keep moving. And that was the only thing I could think of. So I just, I just moved. I just went running all over this stairwell in the middle of the night. It must have been about 3 or 4 in the morning. I had just gotten my cast off, so my leg was all gimpy and weird. I was limping up and down the stairwell naked and sat down. I had a good cry. And then I remember just thinking, you have to pull yourself together. You can't be, you cannot be naked in this stairwell. When people start getting up and going to work, you have to find a solution, pull yourself together. So I did. And I thought, well, okay, I'm going to try every single door in this building because one of them has to, one of them has to be his apartment. And maybe it's not the kind of door that locks behind you. On my travels around though, I had heard a bunch of noise coming from one of the rooms on the sixth floor. So after trying everything I could think of, I finally thought, I have to go. I have to knock on the door of this party. And I went up to the door, I pumped myself up. I think I tried about three times before I finally rang the bell. And then I ran back into the stairwell and I heard this voice around the corner saying, are we making too much noise? You know, what's going on? I was like, no, no, no, you're not making too much. You just come over here. Just come around here. And so this really confused looking girl sort of came around the corner and I just had my head outside of the stairwell flopped around the door. And I sort of said, well, hi. Hi. Hi. This is really weird. I don't normally do this, but I just, I feel like I just have to tell you, I am, I'm naked. I'M naked, I'm in the stairwell, I don't know where I came from, and I really need some clothes. And that's it. And I won't bother you again. And if you really wouldn't mind. And she. Bless. Bless her little heart, she just turned around and said, oh, come on in. And she turned around and started walking back into her apartment. And I shouted after her. I was like, oh, could you just bring me some clothes first? And she said, oh, don't worry, honey, it's just girls and gays. And she just walked into this apartment. And as the door was swinging shut behind her, I took a deep breath and I just ran in after her and dived behind this sofa. That was that. There were about, I think, three or four people. It was just a get together. They were all sat on the balcony. I'll never forget this guy's face. He just turned around and looked at me and his jaw dropped open. And then I sort of popped up out from behind the sofa and was like, hi, guys.
Ryan Seacrest
Hi.
Carrie Underwood
Hi, how are you? Can you just please give me some clothes? Can you just please. She was like, oh, oh, yeah, I forgot. So she went. She threw me a pair of, you know, tracksuit bottoms and a T shirt. Now I have to find out where I came from. So I told her. She was like, well, who is this guy? And I described him. And she was like, oh, I totally know that dude. He lives on the third floor. So she takes me downstairs, we knock at a bunch of doors, nobody answers. So finally everybody leaves the party and we have to go to bed. So she goes to sleep, and I slept on the sofa. And she had lent me her BlackBerry because I had to get up and go to work. So she lent me her BlackBerry and when it went off in the. I had to unlock the phone so that I could switch off the alarm. And I didn't have her password, so I had to go into her room and wake her up. And she sort of turned over in the bed and looked at me like, oh, like that totally really happened. And she was like, hey. I was like, hey, yeah, I'm the naked girl. Thanks so much. Would you mind unlocking your phone? And she did, and she gave it to me. And so I phoned my phone and it rang. And this stranger answered the phone, this voice I didn't recognize. And this guy was like, who are you? Who are you? And I told him my name, and he was like, what's your last name? What's your last name? And I told him. And then I heard this rustling. And he passes the phone over to this guy that I've been seeing. And this guy was like, where the hell are you? What the hell is going on? And I was like, oh, you'll never believe it. The funniest thing happened. I woke up in the stairwell. And he was like, look, whatever. I was like, well, what? What. What apartment number you. Are you. And he told me, and we had been looking on the wrong floor. He was on the third floor. So I, you know, said Mike to this lovely lady who saved me from the stairwell. And I went down into the elevator, and the doors opened on the third floor. And there was this gentleman I had been seeing. Two policemen and two of my best friends in New York, all just stood in front of the elevator, and they were all absolutely furious. And it turned out that this guy had woken up not long after I had left and couldn't find me. All of my clothes were in his apartment, and I was nowhere to be found. So the only friend of mine that he knew was my friend Rochelle. So he phoned her, and she said, well, you know, you have to call the police. She made him look all over his apartment. And she also did say to him, have you looked in your roommate's room? Which I still to this day, think was a little bit unfair. I may have not had that many morals back in the day, but I certainly would never have done that anyway. So all's well that ends well. I was saved. I don't do drugs anymore. I would love to say that that was the last time I did any. But it took about a year probably, for me to just get over the shock of waking up naked in a stairwell. But it took me about a year to sort of wind down after that. They call in the street look at that, look at that that's the thing on two feet look at that look at that he's just as proud as.
Ryan Seacrest
He can be his anatomy he gonna.
Carrie Underwood
Give us a peek oh, yes, they call him the street look at that look at that he likes to show off his physique look at that look at that if there's an audience to be found he'll be streaking it round.
Kevin Allison
This is Frisk. This is Ray Stevens behind me. Now, this is a hit when I was a kid. And, of course, I was fascinated by the whole idea of streaking. Made it a pastime of mine with my friends in grade school. And we just heard from Morgan Bartlett. So that is the best of drinking stories. And if you have a drinking or drugs story, whether happy, sad, terrifying, ridiculous. Pitch it to us at risk-show.com submissions folks, today's the day. Take a risk.
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Take a Rams.
Podcast Summary: RISK! – The Best of Drinking Stories
Episode Details
Kevin Allison opens the episode by highlighting the dual nature of drinking stories—how they embody the good, bad, and ugly sides of both alcohol consumption and St. Patrick's Day celebrations. He also announces upcoming live shows across various cities, inviting listeners to share their own stories for future episodes.
Kevin Allison [02:16]: "Hello folks, this is Risk, the show where people tell true stories they never thought they'd dare to share."
Mather Zickle recounts a harrowing experience from his freshman year at New York University (NYU) in the fall of 1988. Living in a dorm near a notorious crack house at the time, Mather felt isolated despite his proximity to the vibrant city life he had always admired.
Mather describes his initial excitement about studying theater at NYU, juxtaposed with his feelings of loneliness and social anxiety.
Mather Zickle [04:25]: "I wanted to be in New York. I wanted to be studying theater with other people who shared this passion. Yet, somehow I still felt lonely and isolated."
To cope, Mather turned to alcohol, leading to several blackouts where he lost control and memory of his actions. These episodes often resulted in him waking up with unexplained bruises and damaged personal items.
One night in fall 1988, Mather attends a rare freshman apartment party on the Lower East Side, bringing a fifth of Jack Daniels. Despite being only 18, his youthful appearance allowed him to consume alcohol freely without being carded.
Mather Zickle [10:15]: "I brought a fifth of Jack Daniels... I was high on this cocktail of 15 parts Jack Daniels and one part milk of human kindness."
As the evening progresses, Mather drinks heavily, eventually deciding to leave the party early. On his way out, a homeless man approaches him for change. In his intoxicated state, Mather agrees to let the man join him for pizza at Ray's Pizza on Third Avenue.
Mather Zickle [14:38]: "I trusted him. He seemed wise and resilient... It was like an exchange of holiday brotherhood between strangers."
The next morning, Mather wakes up in his dorm suite with five other roommates, having no recollection of the previous night. Confusion ensues as his friends express concern over his erratic behavior, recalling incidents like slamming against walls and nearly drowning in the toilet.
Mather Zickle [14:42]: "I was acting so drunk, they thought I was kidding. I almost drowned in the toilet."
When questioned by the dorm security about his friend, Mather realizes he attempted to help a homeless man but now faces the consequences of his actions while intoxicated. Reflecting on this episode, Mather acknowledges the profound impact it had on his life, leading him to abandon drug use.
Mather Zickle [16:37]: "I was saved. I don't do drugs anymore. It took about a year to get over the shock of waking up naked in a stairwell."
In a surprising twist, singer Carrie Underwood shares her own personal experience with substance use and the chaos it entailed during her early years in New York City.
Carrie moved to New York seven years prior to the episode, immersing herself in a vibrant social scene that unfortunately led to a "mild to moderate cocaine habit" and excessive drinking.
Carrie Underwood [17:45]: "I developed a mild to moderate cocaine habit... I was having trouble finding a boyfriend."
After a night out where Carrie indulges in both alcohol and cocaine, she finds herself in an alarming situation. Waking up strip-mined in a stairwell, she experiences intense panic and embarrassment.
Carrie Underwood [25:48]: "I was peeing all over my feet, completely naked in the stairwell. I don't talk to God very often, but I did pray at that point and was just sobbing."
Desperate to regain her composure and find her way, Carrie navigates through confusing hallways and attempts to seek help. Her quest leads her to a party where she interacts with a kind stranger who assists her in regaining some semblance of dignity.
Carrie Underwood [26:27]: "She threw me a pair of tracksuit bottoms and a T-shirt... Bless her little heart, she just turned around and walked back into her apartment."
Despite the assistance, backtracking reveals that her efforts to contact her significant other result in a comical yet frustrating misunderstanding. Her friends and the police are upset upon discovering her condition, adding another layer of complexity to her story.
Carrie Underwood [29:43]: "There were two policemen and two of my best friends in New York, all just stood in front of the elevator, and they were all absolutely furious."
Carrie's ordeal serves as a pivotal moment in her life, marking the beginning of her journey away from substance abuse. She candidly admits that overcoming the aftermath took about a year, emphasizing the importance of personal growth and resilience.
Carrie Underwood [16:37]: "I was saved. I don’t do drugs anymore. It took about a year to sort out after that."
Kevin Allison wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to share their own drinking or drug-related stories, regardless of the emotions involved—be it happy, sad, terrifying, or ridiculous.
Kevin Allison [30:04]: "If you have a drinking or drugs story, whether happy, sad, terrifying, ridiculous. Pitch it to us at risk-show.com submissions folks, today's the day. Take a risk."
He underscores the essence of RISK! as a platform for unfiltered and authentic storytelling, urging audience members to embrace vulnerability and share their personal experiences.
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Recommendation: For those who appreciate raw and authentic storytelling, "The Best of Drinking Stories" episode on RISK! offers a compelling dive into the personal lives of individuals navigating the treacherous waters of substance use and the quest for belonging.