Episode #211. Build Fast, Break Nothing: Inside a Healthcare CTO’s Balancing Act, with Josh Prince, CTO and VP of Engineering at Censinet

Summary

Risk Never Sleeps Podcast – Episode #211

Build Fast, Break Nothing: Inside a Healthcare CTO’s Balancing Act
Guest: Josh Prince, CTO & VP of Engineering, Censinet
Host: Ed Gaudet
Date: April 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Risk Never Sleeps features a candid conversation between host Ed Gaudet and Josh Prince, CTO and VP of Engineering at Censinet. The discussion dives into Josh’s journey through healthcare technology, lessons learned from startup life, strategies for balancing innovation with risk, and the importance of team dynamics in protecting patient safety in an increasingly digital world. Lighter personal topics and anecdotes add flavor to the episode, revealing more about the guest behind the title.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Background and Role at Censinet

• Josh’s Healthcare Journey:

  • Nearly 20 years in the healthcare technology sector, with experience in consulting and product leadership.

    "Been in the healthcare industry for almost 20 years now. ... Prior to Sensenet was with a population health analytics company leading their application development and for the last almost eight years, been here at Sensenet."
    (01:30)

• Company Culture:

  • Emphasis on autonomy, stretching abilities, and being mission-driven.

    "We are an organization that gives individuals a lot of autonomy, challenges everyone ... and allows them to grow. ... I like to think we punch a little bit above our weight."
    (02:01)

• Customer Focus:

  • Censinet is described as “maniacally focused” on customer needs, with user feedback shaping product value.

    "We've always been customer focused. Maniacally focused, as I think I've heard you say a thousand times."
    (02:23)

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2. Mindset of a CTO: Startups, Growth, and Risk

• Passion for Startups:

  • Josh thrives in dynamic environments where talking to users and solving new problems is at the forefront.

    "I love startups... talking to users, customers, understanding their needs and trying to figure out creative solutions to those problems."
    (02:53)

  • Wishes he’d started sooner:

    "Go do a startup sooner. ... Nowhere you're going to get as much exposure to the types of things that you ultimately will when Working for a startup."
    (04:41)

• Surprises Moving to Startups:

  • The biggest shift was resource constraints and broader responsibilities compared to larger organizations.

    "It's all about resources and leverage. ... At a startup it's necessary to really be able to work a little bit more laterally and handle a number of things. Wear a lot of hats, so to speak."
    (05:11)

• On Risk-Taking:

  • Admits to risky teenage behavior (driving too fast), drawing a parallel to the boldness sometimes required in tech leadership:

    "Probably ... driving a car way too fast at 16, 17 years old. ... I look back at now, I'm like, what an idiot."
    (05:44, 06:25)

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3. Work-Life & Hobbies: The Human Behind the CTO

• Coffee Aficionado:

  • About to buy an espresso machine, which is humorously labeled a “new hobby.”

    "I'm about to pull the trigger on an espresso machine. ... Everyone says if you ask the question, should I buy an espresso machine? The answer is, do you want a new hobby?"
    (03:32)

• Memorable Meals:

  • Recap of a unique team dinner at Chubby Cattle—blending hotpot and wagyu beef with "passion fruit slushies."

    "I've never been so full waking up in the morning. ... I can't say I ever imagine washing down a 5 wagyu with a slurpee."
    (07:12, 07:24)

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4. Tastes & Pop Culture

• Music vs. Movies:

  • Declares himself "not a music guy," instead gravitating to movies, especially Scorsese and Tarantino.

    "Ed, you know I'm not a music guy. ... I'll put on like a vibe and it just plays..."
    (08:31, 08:50)

  • Favorite films include Pulp Fiction and a recent favorite, Sinners:

    "I'm probably going to go with Pulp Fiction. ... I loved Sinners ... maybe best movie I've seen in years."
    (09:12, 10:06)

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5. Life Lessons & Teamwork

• Biggest Lesson:
  • The value of surrounding oneself with smart, motivated people—prioritizing growth environment over name brands.

    "...Don't get too hung up on sort of the name brand ... Look instead for the people who you think are challenged, are interested in the same challenges as you're interested in ... I think you'll get a lot more out of those experiences..."
    (11:43)

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6. Little-Known Facts: Competitive Paintball

• Surprising Hobby:
  • Played and started a competitive paintball club in college—a team-based, tactical sport distinct from military simulation.

    "I played competitive paintball ... Started the team. The club. ... This is a different sort of version of the game called speedball."
    (12:50, 13:15)

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7. Advice for Aspiring Tech Leaders

• Stay Curious:
  • Continuous learning and experimentation are key in the fast-evolving tech world.

    "The best thing I think you can do is just keep up with all the things that are happening and try to experiment with as much of it as possible."
    (14:31)

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8. Industry Trends Observed at Conferences

• AI Everywhere:
  • Noted every booth at a recent conference (except perhaps one selling hand sanitizer) touting AI, underscoring market trends.

    "I think I saw one booth that didn't mention AI ... They do have AI powered hand sanitizer, after all."
    (15:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Company Mission:

  "Everyone's very dedicated and focused on the mission."
  (02:01)

• On Trying New Things:

  "Stay curious. ... Try to experiment with as much of it as possible.”
  (14:31)

• On the Real Source of Growth:

  "The experiences I've had where I've ... grown the most ... it's always been a situation where I've been surrounded by ... the smartest, most motivated individuals."
  (11:43)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------| | 01:30 | Josh introduces himself & Censinet | | 02:01 | Company culture & autonomy | | 02:23 | Customer focus at Censinet | | 02:53 | Passion for startups | | 04:41 | Advice to 20-year-old self: start startups sooner | | 05:11 | Surprises about startup life | | 07:03 | Stories from Chubby Cattle dinner | | 08:31 | Music and movie preferences | | 11:43 | Life lessons: value of team and environment | | 12:50 | Starting a competitive paintball club | | 14:31 | Advice for future CTOs/engineering leaders | | 15:16 | Reflections on AI trend at conferences |

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Tone & Language

The conversation is relaxed, peppered with dry humor and self-awareness. Josh brings humility and perspective to his reflections, and Ed encourages candid sharing with good-natured teasing and rapport.

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Summary Takeaways

• Josh Prince’s leadership style balances technological ambition with humility, team building, and a customer-first mindset.
• Real growth and learning come from the community you build around you, not name-brand affiliations.
• Curiosity, collaboration, and embracing new challenges define both personal and organizational success.
• In a rapidly evolving field, adaptability and continuous learning are essential—for both individuals and teams protecting patient safety in healthcare.

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For more episodes and resources, visit censinet.com

Transcript

[Josh Prince]

Foreign.

[Ed Gaudet]

Welcome to Risk Never Sleeps, where we

meet and get to know the people delivering patient care and protecting patient safety. I'm your host, Ed Gaudet.

Welcome to the Risk Never Sleeps podcast in which we learn about the people that are on the front lines protecting patient safety and delivering patient care. I'm Ed Gaudet, the host of the program, and I am joined by my good friend and colleague, Josh Prince.

[Josh Prince]

Hello. Happy to be here.

[Ed Gaudet]

Josh. Welcome.

[Josh Prince]

Took you a while.

[Ed Gaudet]

Did you ever think this was going to happen?

[Josh Prince]

I've been waiting for the invite.

[Ed Gaudet]

Now, you were going to say something earlier and I cut you off. What were you going to say?

[Josh Prince]

I was going to say that I think. And now that I'm hearing my own voice through my headset. Maybe this is just a microphone thing, but you have your day to day advoice. Yes. And then your podcast ad voice.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, my podcast. Which do you prefer?

[Josh Prince]

You know, I think that the podcast ad voice would be my choice if I were lighting a candle and maybe reading. Really reading a book in the tub or a little sexy. Too much. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Wow. Like Johnny Fly Trap. Cincinnati WKO or whatever. Sure. What was that? Okay, anyway. Flying turkeys. Nobody. Rko. Johnny Fever Venus Fly Trap. There we go. Okay, Josh, tell us a little bit about yourself, your role and your company.

[Josh Prince]

Sure. So I am chief technology officer and VP of Engineering here at Senseinet. Been in the healthcare industry for almost 20 years now. Yeah. Largely focused on technology, done consulting, then product. Prior to Sensenet was with a population health analytics company leading their application development and for the last almost eight years, been here at Senseinet.

[Ed Gaudet]

Eight years.

[Josh Prince]

Doing the dang thing. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

What do you love about Sensenet?

[Josh Prince]

As a product or as a.

[Ed Gaudet]

Whatever you want. However you want to take the question.

[Josh Prince]

I would say we are an organization that gives individuals a lot of autonomy, challenges everyone in whatever role they may be in, and allows them to grow in a variety of ways, stretch ourselves and their abilities. And I like to think we punch a little bit above our weight. And that's something I appreciate about this team. Everyone's very dedicated and focused on the mission.

[Ed Gaudet]

How about for customers?

[Josh Prince]

You know, I just think we are. And not to toot your horn a little bit too much here, but I think we've always been customer focused. Maniacally focused, as I think I've heard you say a thousand times. Right. And that shows in the feedback we get from our customers and the value that they are getting from our product. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

If you weren't doing this job, what would you be doing. What are you most passionate about? I know you have a growing family, but assume your kids are out and you can do anything you want to do.

[Josh Prince]

I love startups. I love problem solving. I love talking to users, customers, understanding their needs and trying to figure out creative solutions to those problems. I enjoy the challenge of the dynamism of technology and industry and trying to figure out what the right answer is not just today, but also for tomorrow, which oftentimes is not going to be the right answer from yesterday.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, right.

[Josh Prince]

So I think I'd still be working in a startup world. As for what exactly, I don't know. You know, there's a lot of things that sort of come and go as interests of mine, but I haven't yet found that thing where I said, you know what, that's the thing that I'd love to spend the next 10 years doing.

[Ed Gaudet]

What are some of your hobbies? Oh, man.

[Josh Prince]

You know, I'm actually about, I guess technically it's not a hobby yet. I'm about to pull the trigger on an espresso machine. From everything I've heard, that's a hobby for me. Everyone says if you ask the question, should I buy an espresso machine? The answer is, do you want a new hobby? So that's likely going to be where you're getting, I think. Does it be with a D? No.

[Ed Gaudet]

What's the D?

[Josh Prince]

I think a profitech move.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh.

[Josh Prince]

Is where I've landed.

[Ed Gaudet]

Damn.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, I've done a lot of research.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, I know you, I know you

[Josh Prince]

probably do a lot. You know my style.

[Ed Gaudet]

What was it about that machine?

[Josh Prince]

Honestly, it was like, as far as a dual boiler system goes, we're going to geek out on some.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yes.

[Josh Prince]

One of the fuller featured ones at a, I would say, palatable price point.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, okay.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah. So you can get. You can get, obviously. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

You'd spend 10, 20 grand on an espresso machine. Yeah. I don't think you're spending that.

[Josh Prince]

No, no, no, trust me, I'd be in big trouble.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, well, I want to learn more about this machine afterwards. If you could go back in time and tell your 20 year old self something, what would it be?

[Josh Prince]

Great question. I mean, honestly, I'd probably say go do a startup sooner. I started startups at about 30 years old, I want to say.

[Ed Gaudet]

Okay.

[Josh Prince]

As you can probably infer from my answer, it's been a tremendous experience. I think there's nowhere you're going to get as much exposure to the types of things that you ultimately will when Working for a startup, the only thing, I guess, regret about is that I didn't start it sooner. Sooner.

[Ed Gaudet]

What were some of the initial surprises for you? You move from a larger organization to a startup.

[Josh Prince]

You know, I think it's all about resources and leverage. Right. If you're with an arch organization, you get accustomed to having bigger teams, more dedicated functions. And I don't even mean this in a negative way, but there's a little bit more of the, well, that's not my job type of mentality. Right. You've got individuals who are responsible for those different domains and you say sort of in your own lane. Whereas at a startup it's sort of, I don't even want to say expected. It's necessary to really be able to work a little bit more laterally and handle a number of things. Wear a lot of hats, so to speak.

[Ed Gaudet]

What's the riskiest thing you've ever done?

[Josh Prince]

Oh, my goodness. Probably. I guess a lot of people are probably guilty of this, so maybe I shouldn't be embarrassed, but driving a car way too fast at 16, 17 years old.

[Ed Gaudet]

How fast?

[Josh Prince]

Too fast. How fast?

[Ed Gaudet]

160.

[Josh Prince]

I. No, no, no. But let's just say I pushed my Mercury stable about as far as one can push it.

[Ed Gaudet]

I had a Mercury Monarch. Oh, yeah. They can go fast.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

140. You get that to 140.

[Josh Prince]

I didn't quite get there, but it was okay.

[Ed Gaudet]

Well, that's not fast and everything. 140. Was it shaking?

[Josh Prince]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah. Whenever a car starts to shake, it's probably unsafe.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, yeah. It's one of those things I look back at now, I'm like, what an idiot.

[Ed Gaudet]

I don't think anyone's actually said that on this program. Not driven a car too fast. Yeah. Not a Mercury seat. What color was that thing?

[Josh Prince]

Maroon.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Yep.

[Josh Prince]

I think I picked this thing up for three, six hundred dollars, something like that.

[Ed Gaudet]

Do you have a tape tech in it? Yeah, Pioneer tape deck.

[Josh Prince]

Had the power. Leather seats.

[Ed Gaudet]

Whoa. Yeah, yeah. Nice.

[Josh Prince]

It was.

[Ed Gaudet]

What do you drive now?

[Josh Prince]

A Tesla Model 3. Little different. Of course you do. A little different.

[Ed Gaudet]

We had an interesting night last night. Do you remember where we went to dinner?

[Josh Prince]

Chubby cattle. I think if I can. If the meat sweats haven't, you know, wiped my memory.

[Ed Gaudet]

How did you do last night and this morning?

[Josh Prince]

I woke up. I've never been so full. Full waking up in the morning.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

It was pretty incredible, huh?

[Josh Prince]

Within a couple of hours, I was like, ravenous. Yeah. I don't know.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, that's what Paul has said to starving. But what an experience, huh?

[Josh Prince]

It was different. It's different. I. I can't say I ever imagine washing down a 5 wagyu with a slurpee.

[Ed Gaudet]

With a Slushy. Yeah, like, that was great. Passion fruit slushy. It was insane. I also think the best part of that trip was that it was only a mile away and it took us like almost an hour to get there.

[Josh Prince]

Funny how that works, I guess. Everything in Los Angeles and the Uber was.

[Ed Gaudet]

The Uber driver was a little angry about the wayo.

[Josh Prince]

Did you notice that? Yeah, Wouldn't you be?

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, I think he wanted to burn one down at one point, like he was. And then when we went outside after and we saw a Wayo. Do you remember that?

[Josh Prince]

We did, yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

What was that all about? That was weird.

[Josh Prince]

And then it tried to drive away without its passenger.

[Ed Gaudet]

After the guy said, I'm standing here waiting to unlock it, waiting for a friend. And then it just started moving away from me. He didn't know what's going.

[Josh Prince]

He was unfazed. And he was still just lecturing us about why we shouldn't take Uber.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's right, why.

[Josh Prince]

Waymo was so much better as his car drove off.

[Ed Gaudet]

Drove away. It was insane. Okay. You're on a desert island. You could bring five records with you. What would they be?

[Josh Prince]

Ed, you know I'm not a music guy.

[Ed Gaudet]

I know, but you like some music, right?

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, but I'm the type. Like, I'll put on, like, a vibe and it just plays like. You know when you get the Spotify wrapped at the end of the year and it says, you listen to this. I don't even know who the bands are. I'm like, who? I listen to them for many hours. I've never even heard of this band.

[Ed Gaudet]

Really?

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's weird. Maybe even hacked.

[Josh Prince]

No, it's just because I put on the station. It just plays through.

[Ed Gaudet]

All right. Movies, movies, movies. Five movies. You gotta be either a movie or a music guy.

[Josh Prince]

You can't. I can do movies. Okay. I still wouldn't say I'm a movie guy, but I can do movies, so I'd probably. I have a bias towards, like, Scorsese and Tarantino.

[Ed Gaudet]

Probably, yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Nice. As a general rule among their work, I'm probably going to go with Pulp Fiction. I think it's hard not to include in that list.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's a good one. Probably Dust of Dawn.

[Josh Prince]

I am not a fan. It wasn't known. Just don't get me wrong, actually, I guess.

[Ed Gaudet]

Is it George Clooney?

[Josh Prince]

It was just. It caught me so off guard, which despite the fact that that was my voice and it was how old? I still. It hadn't been spoiled for me.

[Ed Gaudet]

It was so the point, though, wasn't it?

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, but I was a little. It caught me a little off guard.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

I don't know.

[Ed Gaudet]

So did you see Sinners?

[Josh Prince]

I loved Sinners. You did? I did.

[Ed Gaudet]

So tell me about.

[Josh Prince]

Because it's music and it's the same critique I just had for. From Dustel. Dawn took you off. Sorry, I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but there's a similar twist where it was not quite what.

[Ed Gaudet]

I wouldn't worry about spoiling it, but anyway.

[Josh Prince]

No, I love that movie, actually. I thought it was brilliant, maybe. Yeah. Best movie I've seen in years, I would say.

[Ed Gaudet]

Really?

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Wow.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Did you see Long Legs? I know.

[Josh Prince]

I still haven't.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, my.

[Josh Prince]

Still having. I know. Hitting me.

[Ed Gaudet]

Black Phone.

[Josh Prince]

No, I don't.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, Black Phone. Even Black Phone, too, I thought was pretty.

[Josh Prince]

Is that horror, too?

[Ed Gaudet]

It's horror, yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Generally not super into horror. Yeah, but.

[Ed Gaudet]

But more psychological.

[Josh Prince]

That is a little more up my alley, I would say, than.

[Ed Gaudet]

Well, Sinners is kind of horror, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

But again, I. I think I didn't understand that. I was going into it.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, I enjoyed it.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. F1.

[Josh Prince]

No, but like, every flight I've taken in the last month, it's been there, so I should watch it. It's.

[Ed Gaudet]

I've watched it twice.

[Josh Prince]

I nearly did it. It's so good times. Actually, on the last one. Speaking of Tarantino, I rewatched Once Upon a Time in Holly on a flight. I did. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

I guess. You have enough time. Yeah, I've seen that four times.

[Josh Prince]

Favorite, though.

[Ed Gaudet]

What?

[Josh Prince]

Not one of my favorites.

[Ed Gaudet]

Love that movie.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, what a great movie.

[Josh Prince]

It's a good movie. It's fun. I honestly, I had forgotten the ending, which. So it was kind of enjoyable.

[Ed Gaudet]

How could you forget?

[Josh Prince]

I hadn't seen it since it came out. Okay. You know, and so anyway, it was kind of fun reliving that.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's really odd.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's the whole point of the movie.

[Josh Prince]

Is it? I don't know.

[Ed Gaudet]

Who are you, Josh Prince? Oh, my God. I'm not even sure what question to ask him next. I'm speechless. All right. Biggest lesson in your life. Biggest lesson? Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Life. This is the first thing that comes to mind, I suppose. But I would say in my Life, the experiences I've had where I've sort of learned the most, grown the most, et cetera. It's always been a situation where I've been surrounded by just like the smartest, most motivated individuals. Collection of those folks, I guess, that you're going to find anywhere. And so I guess that lesson to sort of synthesize would be don't get too hung up on sort of the name brand or like, you know, I got to go to the best college or I have to work for the biggest company or the best company, et cetera. Look instead for the people who you think are challenged, are interested in the same challenges as you're interested in and are trying to grow in the ways that you're interested in growing in. And I think you'll get a lot more out of those experiences than some of the others.

[Ed Gaudet]

Nice wise for your age, Josh.

[Josh Prince]

I'm not getting any younger, so I don't know. Hopefully gotta learn some lessons along the way.

[Ed Gaudet]

One interesting fact about you that most people don't know.

[Josh Prince]

Not that interesting.

[Ed Gaudet]

You're not that open either. So I'm sure you got a lot of interesting things about you.

[Josh Prince]

Interesting fact. I played competitive paintball.

[Ed Gaudet]

There you go. Look at that.

[Josh Prince]

Into college.

[Ed Gaudet]

There it is.

[Josh Prince]

Boom. I don't know. That's a rant.

[Ed Gaudet]

I didn't know that.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Competitive paintball.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah. Started the team. The. The club.

[Ed Gaudet]

Fbu the club too.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

No club prior to you starting it?

[Josh Prince]

Not that I know of. It certainly wasn't in existence at that time. Crazy.

[Ed Gaudet]

So tell me about competitive paintball. What's that like?

[Josh Prince]

So there's. I've been out of the game for a while and I'm sure things have changed. But at the time, most people who think about paintball thought about like people with camouflage faces, like rolling around in the woods. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Which I've done that, by the way.

[Josh Prince]

This is a different sort of version of the game called speedball. It's relatively small field, inflatable sort of obstacles and things of that nature that people are sort of strategically positioned on. And a lot of coordination, a lot of teamwork. Calling out movement of your opponent and your own movement and sort of coordinating positions accordingly.

[Ed Gaudet]

Tactical fighting.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Nice. Interesting, huh? Is there still a capture of the flag type of.

[Josh Prince]

There is an element of that, yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Okay.

[Josh Prince]

Yep.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. Ever been hit in the face by a pit bull?

[Josh Prince]

Not directly in the face. You wear a mask.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

So it's gotten, you know, behind the mask, it hurts types of thing before. Yep.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Draw some blood Every now and then.

[Ed Gaudet]

Ever fall on a rock, Exposed rock, cut your knee?

[Josh Prince]

Yeah. Am I hearing a little bit about your. Your paintball experience, maybe?

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. I was in the military, and I think paintball was worse. You get a lot. You get a lot of people out there that want to be in the military and all of a sudden have a gun and they turn into psych lunatics out there.

[Josh Prince]

Absolutely.

[Ed Gaudet]

What advice would you give to someone coming out of school that wants to become head of engineering, cto, do their own startup? What?

[Josh Prince]

Would you stay curious? I think you know, all these things, especially in the technology field, is it evolves so fast.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

The best thing I think you can do is just keep up with all the things that are happening and try to experiment with as much of it as possible.

[Ed Gaudet]

Nice, Josh. Pleasure having you on.

[Josh Prince]

Thank you.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's painless, right?

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, mostly.

[Ed Gaudet]

What's the painful part?

[Josh Prince]

I should have known you're going to throw a music question at me, and even the movie pivot I was unprepared for, so.

[Ed Gaudet]

Really? Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

These are things that we do as humans. Like I said.

[Josh Prince]

Like I said, too. I should have known that.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Josh Prince]

One of those.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. All right. Well, it's pretty painless, though.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah. All things considered.

[Ed Gaudet]

But good time at Vibe. You've had a good couple days.

[Josh Prince]

Yeah, it's been interesting walking the floor.

[Ed Gaudet]

Any learnings you want to share?

[Josh Prince]

I mean, I would say just anecdotally, I think I saw one booth that didn't mention AI. What were they?

[Ed Gaudet]

Hand sanitizer.

[Josh Prince]

They probably just hadn't updated it in a couple of years. And they do have AI powered hand sanitizer, after all. They do. Yeah. So definitely been cool to kind of walk around and just see the interesting things people are.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. Yeah. Ed Gaudette from the Risk Never Sleeps podcast. If you're on the front lines protecting patient safety and delivering patient care, remember to stay vigilant because Risk never sleeps.

[Josh Prince]

Sleeps.

[Ed Gaudet]

Thanks for listening to Risk Never Sleeps. For the show, notes, resources and more information and how to transform the protection of patient safety, Visit [e-mail] that's C-E-N S I N E T.com I'm your host, Ed Gaudet. And until next time, stay vigilant because Risk never sleeps.