From Helicopters to High-Stakes Ops: A Coast Guard K-9’s Journey

Summary

Podcast Summary: "From Helicopters to High-Stakes Ops: A Coast Guard K-9’s Journey"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Robin's Nest from American Humane
• Host: Dr. Robin Ganzert
• Episode Title: From Helicopters to High-Stakes Ops: A Coast Guard K-9’s Journey
• Release Date: February 3, 2025

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Introduction

In this heartfelt and inspiring episode of Robin's Nest, Dr. Robin Ganzert welcomes Petty Officer Alicia Horne, a dedicated K9 handler with the U.S. Coast Guard based in Seattle, Washington. Alicia shares her profound bond with her canine partner, Nikki, a five-year-old Belgian Malinois-German Shepherd mix celebrated as a hero dog finalist in the military dog category. Together, they have completed over 250 operations, amassed more than 4,000 working hours, and played a crucial role in safeguarding millions of lives both on land and at sea.

A Day in the Life of a Coast Guard K9 Handler

Alicia begins by outlining her responsibilities within the Coast Guard. She and Nikki specialize in explosive detection, ensuring the safety and security of significant infrastructures such as Seattle's extensive ferry system—the largest in the United States and second only to Canada globally.

“We help keep the safety and security of all the ferry systems up there. Seattle is home to the largest ferry passenger system in the entire United States. Second in the world to Canada, actually.”
— Alicia Horne [01:09]

Beyond their local duties, Alicia and Nikki are deployed to major events that may attract threats, including the Super Bowl, Olympic Trials, and the Rose Bowl in Pasadena. Their presence at these high-profile gatherings is pivotal in maintaining public safety.

“When you say vertical delivery training, you're really. You and Nikki are hopping out of helicopters. We are on possibly negative targets. Right. Because something's going wrong there that you have to investigate.”
— Alicia Horne [12:26]

Motivation and Personal Background

Alicia shares a deeply personal motivation for her career choice. Inspired by her great grandfather's service during World War II, she sought to honor his legacy by serving her country. This familial connection instilled in her a profound sense of duty and fulfillment.

“I originally joined because my great grandfather was in World War II. ... I just, I became fascinated with the fact of serving your country and doing a little bit more and helping in some type of way.”
— Alicia Horne [04:50]

Her decision to join the Coast Guard was also influenced by a desire to serve locally and contribute directly to her community's safety, rather than pursuing a traditional college path.

Forming a Lifelong Partnership with Nikki

The bond between Alicia and Nikki is both professional and deeply personal. Alicia recounts their initial meeting in 2021 during the Coast Guard's handler selection process at the TSA Schoolhouse at Lackland Air Force Base.

“The very second week I was there, and instantly I knew that she was just this big ball of energy that just had this drive to work, and she loved what she did.”
— Alicia Horne [06:06]

Nikki's enthusiasm and innate drive quickly established her as an exceptional partner. Alicia emphasizes Nikki's role as not just a working dog but as her constant companion, highlighting that they have rarely been apart since partnering.

“She is a workhorse. She's a power horse. And I have just enjoyed every second of being with her.”
— Alicia Horne [07:26]

Training and Operations

Alicia delves into the rigorous training process that both she and Nikki undergo. The training includes explosive detection certification and specialized skills like vertical delivery—rapid deployment via helicopter to inaccessible locations.

“Vertical delivery is the ability for us to get delivered via a helicopter to an asset that might not be accessible via a boat or pulling it into port.”
— Alicia Horne [11:36]

This specialized training enables them to respond swiftly to bomb threats and other emergencies, ensuring they can operate effectively in high-stakes environments. Over their tenure, Alicia and Nikki have been involved in critical operations, including responding to bomb threats in the Pacific Northwest and ensuring safety at large-scale events.

“We have vertical delivery training. ... she could just see the fire in her ignite.”
— Alicia Horne [07:35]

Highlighting Heroic Operations

With over 250 high-stakes operations and 4,000 working hours, Alicia shares the immense responsibility she and Nikki bear in protecting public safety. She recounts specific incidents, such as their recent presence at the Rose Bowl amidst an explosion in Pasadena.

“We were actually in Pasadena at the Rose bowl this past week, ... these things happen and that's why these dogs are so important, to keep everybody safe.”
— Alicia Horne [15:31]

Each mission underscores Nikki's unwavering dedication and exceptional skills, reinforcing the critical role that military working dogs play in national security.

Educational Outreach and Inspiring the Next Generation

Alicia and Nikki actively participate in educational outreach to inspire young minds and recruit future Coast Guard members. They engage with schools and community events, demonstrating explosive detection and educating children and parents about the vital work working dogs perform.

“We do explosive demonstrations of what the dogs look like when they find an explosive odor and kind of just educate children and parents on what explosives can look like, how they work areas where they could be and what these dogs do every day.”
— Alicia Horne [17:05]

Their efforts aim to demystify the roles of military working dogs and highlight the diverse opportunities available within the Coast Guard and other services.

Impact of the Hero Dog Awards and Legislative Advancements

Dr. Robin Ganzert highlights the significant achievements of the Hero Dog Awards in raising awareness about the invaluable contributions of working dogs. American Humane's advocacy efforts culminated in the passage of the Working Dog Health and Safety Welfare Act, which ensures standardized and elevated care for all working dogs across various agencies.

“We provide health care for all, you know, retired military working dogs. So when Nikki retires, you gotta look us back up again.”
— Alicia Horne [20:53]

This landmark legislation reflects the collective efforts to honor and protect these dedicated animals, ensuring they receive the care and respect they deserve even after their service concludes.

Nikki’s Future and Legacy

As Alicia contemplates Nikki's future, she expresses heartfelt plans to adopt her upon retirement, ensuring that Nikki continues to receive the love and care she has provided during their service together.

“Nikki's superpower is her nose. Her absolute desire to serve her country, her people, and just get up and work every day.”
— Alicia Horne [21:37]

Nikki's esteemed rank as a Chief Petty Officer symbolizes her esteemed status within the Coast Guard, further emphasizing the mutual respect and teamwork between handler and dog.

“Nikki is a chief petty officer in the Coast Guard. She outranks me. She is my boss. She's the boss lady.”
— Alicia Horne [23:04]

Conclusion

Dr. Robin Ganzert concludes the episode by congratulating Nikki on being named the Military Working Dog Hero of the Year and expressing gratitude for Alicia and Nikki's unwavering service. The episode underscores the extraordinary bond between handlers and their K9 partners, highlighting their indispensable role in national security and community safety.

“What a great representative, as are you, of our United States Coast Guard. Thank you both for your service and thank you for being with us today in Robin's Nest.”
— Dr. Robin Ganzert [23:26]

Listeners are encouraged to support and appreciate the dedicated efforts of military working dogs and their handlers, recognizing their pivotal contributions to a safer, more humane world.

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Key Takeaways:

• Alicia Horne's Dedication: Inspired by her great grandfather, Alicia's decade-long service in the Coast Guard exemplifies commitment and bravery.
• Nikki’s Exceptional Role: As a highly trained Belgian Malinois, Nikki's explosive detection skills have been instrumental in numerous high-stakes operations.
• Educational Impact: Alicia and Nikki's outreach efforts play a crucial role in recruitment and public education about the importance of working dogs.
• Legislative Progress: The Working Dog Health and Safety Welfare Act marks a significant advancement in ensuring the well-being of all working dogs.
• Enduring Bond: The partnership between Alicia and Nikki highlights the profound human-animal connection that drives mission success and personal fulfillment.

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For those inspired by Alicia and Nikki's journey, Robin's Nest continues to offer insightful conversations that celebrate and advocate for the humane treatment and valor of animals worldwide.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to Robin's Nest. Many of us feel a deep bond with animals, from the pets we cherish at home to the endangered species in nature. Join us for lively, informative conversations where together we will build a more humane world. Today we're joined by a true hero who exemplifies courage and dedication in service to our country. Petty Officer Alicia Horne is a K9 handler with the US Coast Guard in Seattle, Washington. She works alongside her incredible partner, Nikki, a five year old Belgian Malinois German shepherd mix and a hero dog finalist in the military dog category. Together They've completed over 250 operations, logged more than 4,000 working hours and safeguarded millions of lives on land and at sea. Alicia, I'm so glad you're here in Robin's Nest today. Thank you so much for joining us.

[B]

Thank you so much for having me.

[A]

And you look incredible in your uniform.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Thank you for your service to our country.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about what you do in your day job?

[B]

So what we do in our day job, we're part of the U.S. coast Guard, the military service. And with Nikki and I, we're both enlisted in the Coast Guard. And our day to day is explosive detection up and down the Pacific Northwest in Seattle. And what that kind of looks like is we helps keep the safety and security of all the ferry systems up there. Seattle is home to the largest ferry passenger system in the entire United States. Second in the world to Canada, actually.

[A]

Second in the world.

[B]

Second to the world.

[A]

I don't think people know that.

[B]

I know it's remarkable. Insane. So that's our primary responsibility locally where we are. But then we also deploy out in support of really big events that might have some type of negative views from others that are trying to harm the event itself or the people attending. And that is like the super bowl, the Olympic trials. We were just at the Rose bowl in Pasadena and you saw our good.

[A]

Friend Carson Kressley there.

[B]

I'm sure we did.

[A]

Yes, we did. Yes. And he'll be with us for the Hero Dog Awards.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yes. He's our host, so I know he'll be excited to see you again. You need to tell him, make sure that you mention it to him that you were at the Rose Bowl. I will.

[B]

That's incredible.

[A]

Yes. I just want to back up a minute because what you do is so important for our country and serving our country in a special way is incredible. Why did you join the Coast Guard? What made you join? I'D love to know that.

[B]

So I joined 10 years ago now.

[A]

10 years ago?

[B]

10 years ago.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yes, it's been an incredible journey. I've been just incredibly fortunate with my career, everything, the buildup. But to answer your question, I originally joined because my great grandfather was in World War II. And the summer before I went into my senior year of high school, I took care of him before he had passed. So during that summer, he started kind of sharing more of his stories and the level of fulfillment and the joy because I'm sure, as you know, a lot of World War II veterans don't talk about their service as much, and it's not as illustrated and publicized as it is today. So I just, I became fascinated with the, the fact of serving your country and doing a little bit more and helping in some type of way and that. And I didn't want to go to college, so. So I, I think within the, within that year, I ended up going to every recruiter possible, kind of learning about all the different services. And while I was in a different recruiter's office, I saw the one and only, I think, Coast Guard commercial I'd ever seen up until that point.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

They're everywhere now, of course.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But, yeah, I just, I fell in love with the idea of helping people and serving people locally in our country. And then I originally joined for the law enforcement mission for counter narcotics because it holds a special place in my heart. Yes. So that's what I did before this for four years. And then now here I am with Nikki and it's just been amazing.

[A]

Well, it is wonderful. And I love the fact that your great grandfather. Did I get that right.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That he inspired you too, because of his service. He was part of that greatest generation that served. So if he was opening up to you before he passed, the story you must have heard had to be remarkable. And I think sometimes we do forget all that has been paid. Those debts paid to our country back then are remarkable. Right? We owe them so much.

[B]

We do. We absolutely do.

[A]

We owe them so much. And I love that he inspired you. And I'm sure he's looking down from heaven now saying yes, and probably voted for Nikki.

[B]

I hope. I'm sure he did. He would have loved her.

[A]

I know he would have. I love that. Oh, my goodness.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Well, thank you. And a 10 year career is incredible too.

[B]

It's been a long time. I had, I hadn't even. I just hit it back in September of this past year and it seems like it's gone so Fast, but also so long at the same time.

[A]

Yes. Well, you've learned a lot and you've done a lot, and that brings us to this incredible dog in your life. And again, I'd love to learn more, and as we would in Robin's Nest, about how you met Nikki, how Nikki is special and how. How she was trained, you know, because it's pretty remarkable what she does, what you two do together. Please share.

[B]

So I. My. Sorry, let me back up. Nikki and I met back in 2021 after I had been selected to be a handler in the Coast Guard. You have to apply. It's a out of. Kind of like an out of rate billet. So for us, you have to apply and keep your fingers crossed and hopefully the stars align and you get to be selected as a handler. There's only 18 of us.

[A]

I was going to say, I thought it was less than 20.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

And it's remarkable for how much the Coast Guard covers to have less than 20 canines.

[B]

Yes, it is. It's a very small number for the amount of work that we do up and down each side of the coastlines. But yes. So we. We met up and once I got to the schoolhouse and I met her the very second week I was there, and instantly I knew that she was just this big ball of energy that just had this drive to work, and she loved what she did. As soon as we'd step into an area, she could just see the fire in her ignite. She's been incredible and amazing since day one, since I had her. And maybe that's just me having a little bit of mom favoritism for her, but she's a workhorse. She's a power horse. And I have just enjoyed every second of being with her.

[A]

When a K9 starts the coast Guard training program, how old are they? And then what kind of training have they had before they get into it when they start working with you?

[B]

Yes. So before the handlers get paired with a dog, we are paired up with them through the TSA schoolhouse. So the schoolhouse we go to is at Lackland Air Force Base. It's the same schoolhouse that the DoD handlers run through.

[A]

Yes, but we're on the Department of Defense for those.

[B]

Yes, Department of Defense. And then the Coast Guard is Department of Homeland Security.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So we run through the TSA's handler program there. And then. So TSA procures all the dogs, they send all their trainers out to wherever they're going to select them from. Nikki's actually from Hungary.

[A]

Oh, My.

[B]

So.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

She traveled far and wide to come to the schoolhouse. And then they run them through the baseline detection of teaching them how to respond to the odor sources that they are going to be certified in.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then you get paired up with the dog and then you work with them throughout the entirety of that course, hopefully, as long as everything goes right and you both pass all the certifications and then you graduate and you go out into the world. And with the Coast Guard, we're our own trainers. We're our own facilitators. We do everything in each kennel. It's different than the DoD. They have their own trainers and the dogs don't go home with them. At the end of the day, in the Coast Guard, everything is on you.

[A]

So Nikki's with you 24 7.

[B]

24 7.

[A]

So she is like your dog.

[B]

She is.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

She is. We go everywhere together. I don't think we've been apart more than a month since I've had her over the past three and a half years. So we're constantly together.

[A]

And so when I think about that too, I think about her retirement. At one day she'll retire. Will you have an opportunity to adopt her upon retirement?

[B]

Yes, I will. All the Coast Guard handlers get first line adoption rights. Perfect. So we, I don't think, I, I don't know who wouldn't want to adopt their dog at the, at the end of the six year tour.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So.

[A]

So it's a six year tour for Nikki.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes. And you want to be with her all of those six years, Right?

[B]

Entirely. That's fantastic. Luckily, I have been the only one to have her and she will be the only dog that I will ever work. So in the Coast Guard, because there's only 18 of us. Yes. You get one dog, one tour with your dog, which is the six years and then you go back to your normal rating specialty.

[A]

Okay. So this is be your one and only time as a canine handler.

[B]

It will. At least in the Coast Guard side.

[A]

At least the Coast Guard side. Wow. I've learned so much already. This is amazing. Now let's talk about Nikki. What kind of dog is she? I know, but our listeners in Robin's Nest may not know. And she's gorgeous, by the way.

[B]

Thank you. She is. She is. Nikki is a 5 year old Belgian Malinois shepherd. She is just as energetic as energetic can be and has a lust for life and work. And the weekends are her worst days and the weekdays are her best. So she's Incredible.

[A]

Well, I think there are some of the incredible Broadway Belgian Malinois usually used with SEAL teams and special forces, too. Right. So they're more of the compact shepherd. Yes, Right.

[B]

They're a little more sleek.

[A]

A little more sleek than the traditional German shepherd. Right, yes. Right. So I know that we've seen them on a lot of the. The reels that people see on Instagram, and they see those dogs, and it's usually a Belgian. Right? Belgian malnour.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's wonderful. So when you're working together, you do some incredible things. Can you share with our listeners in the nest about some of those incredible maneuvers? Because I know many of us have seen them on some sort of social media, channel hopping out of airplanes, things like that. Tell us about some of your daring adventures with Nikki.

[B]

Yes. So one of our qualifications as a K9 explosive detection team is we have vertical delivery training. So that sounds like.

[A]

Okay, like something that happens with Amazon vertical delivery training, but in real life. What is that?

[B]

So vertical delivery is the ability for us to get delivered via a helicopter to an asset that might not be accessible via a boat or pulling it into port. So what we do is we hop into the helicopter, and the pilots and the teams on there will lower us to whatever type of facility or boat that needs to be searched in the event of a bomb threat or some type of interest for the dogs to go out to.

[A]

So when you say vertical delivery training, you're really. You and Nikki are hopping out of helicopters. We are on possibly negative targets. Right. Because something's going wrong there that you have to investigate. That's a lot of courage. And we talk about heroes, but it's really here on both installations. You're one of those heroes. So thank you for what you do.

[B]

Thank you. It's super fun. I mean, you call it super fun.

[A]

I would be super scared. I don't know, jumping out of a helicopter with my dog. Mr. Darcy and I could not jump out of the helicopter. It would not work well for us.

[B]

It took a little bit of practice and some reinforcement on Nikki's point, but now she just kind of hangs out in there and waits till we go out. And she's strapped to me the entire time. So I think that helps a little bit with that comfortability that she knows that we're together, and when we get down, we unstrap from the line that brings us down, and we start our search of the vessel coming with her the entire time.

[A]

So that's wonderful. And so she knows her mom's with her.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And you're both doing, you're both are just amazing. So you do vertical delivery. And I understand, I want to get this right. 250 high stake operations, more than 4,000 working hours. I mean, I'm not sure if our listeners in the nest today understand 250 high stake operations. That's stunning. Can you describe one or two of those if you're allowed to?

[B]

Yes. So all of our operations, whether it's local, responding to bomb threats up and down the Pacific Northwest or in the lower Seattle area, exploring the ferry systems, or going out for big events like the super bowl and the Olympic trials, we're constantly just out the door and trying to provide the most amount of safety and security for the general public. And the biggest part for all the operations that we do and the purpose of Nikki's job and why these working dogs are so spectacular and needed is it's insurmountable, the amount of work and drive that fuels these dogs to go and keep everybody safe. And Nikki, every day she unknowingly goes out the door and goes to work to unknown threats. Threats. Yes, exactly. And she does it so selflessly and she thrives off of it.

[A]

So do you. So do you. She's going out with you too. So I want to make sure everyone understands it's that bond. It's that special bond you and Nikki have together. And you're doing both as heroes for our communities, keeping us all safe. It's remarkable. And I still, when I think about this and I think about your getting into a helicopter, you're hopping on, you know, you're jumping out to get onto a boat. And we all have seen enough in the news to understand those threats are real threats of terrorism, threats of crime and criminal networks and all. And coast guards are frontline.

[B]

We are, we like, if it's out there, we'll. We can get called out for it. And we all know the events that just happened in New Orleans and up and down, and we were actually in Pasadena at the Rose bowl this past week, as you know, and there was an explosion just south of where we were. So these things happen and that's why these dogs are so important, to keep everybody safe.

[A]

That's exactly right. And you're very important as a K9 handler, especially. So when I think about all of this, the high straight, the high stake threats, Unbelievable, Stunning. I'm just, I'm blown away by the work that you do. So I want to pivot now because we're all inspired and also amazed, which is A beautiful thing. And I want to talk about Nikki's role in educational outreach and inspiring young minds about military working dogs and the opportunity to be their partners. Because I think probably all the services are looking to recruit. And as they hear your story, what a great story for the Coast Guard to recruit new service members. And I think about that for army and for the Navy and the Marines, these incredible stories such as yours is one of those inspiring examples, particularly for all of us who love dogs.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

So tell us about how the Coast Guard is able to take this story and maybe inspire the next generation.

[B]

Absolutely. So our recruiters are amazing, especially up in Seattle. They love having Nikki and I out at any type of recruitment event. They're constantly in the school systems holding really big educational affairs events. My base especially has schools come to base to hold job fairs and kind of just really talk about what the Coast Guard is being such a smaller branch of service, just really getting us out there. So for Nikki and I, we're there and we do want. We do explosive demonstrations of what the dogs look like when they find an explosive odor and kind of just educate children and parents on what explosives can look like, how they work areas to where they could be and what these dogs do every day. So I think being able to go out to these areas where it's not as heavily talked about, which it should be, because we live in a world where anything is possible. Yes. And educating these children to know just not only about their own, for their own safety, but about these working dogs that every day are out there keeping everybody safe. And for a plethora of different reasons, with the. Not just working military working dogs for explosives, but they have narcotics dogs and therapy dogs. And I think it just speaks volumes on. Especially in this competition with the Hero Dog competition. It brings a light to all these dogs that not a lot of America really knows about or has even heard their stories before. So I think it's huge what you're doing out here.

[A]

Thank you. Well, you know, 14 years ago, we created the Hero Dog Awards for that very reason. A lot of Americans did not know what their local K9 law enforcement dog did, much less what a military working dog would do. What a. They didn't even know the difference between a therapy dog or a service dog. So we have utilized this campaign to educate millions, but not only to educate millions. I want to share some great news with you. American Humane, because of the Hero Dog Awards, has been on Capitol Hill over the past year, and it was just signed into law. The. The working dog Health and Safety Welfare act. And that was promulgated by American Humane with members of Congress. It was unanimously approved and signed into law right over the holidays. And what it does is it provides the same standard of care across all of the agencies that utilize our canine best friends, our working dogs, to keep our community safe and healthy. So now they all have elevated levels of care and most importantly, equal levels of care across these agencies that utilize. So the dog. Working dogs in Amtrak, the working dogs in the Coast Guard, they'll all get humane and better care as a result of this work. So we've been able to utilize stories such as yours and Nikki's to change federal law. So thank you for what you do, and thank you for letting America and you, Maine change the law.

[B]

Wow. Thank you. Thank you so much. That's, as you know, all, like, all these military dogs, working dogs, as soon as their contract is up with whatever agency that they're. They've put their lives to, unfortunately, there wasn't a program. There's a lot of fundraising partnerships that help these dogs after the fact, but they. As soon as they're done with their service, they don't have that health care anymore or.

[A]

And we provide health care for all, you know, retired military working dogs.

[B]

Goosebumps just now.

[A]

So when Nikki retires, you gotta look us back up again. We're happy to take care of you and Nikki and that too, because we believe all dogs who have served our country in line of service deserve to have health care benefits. And that's where American Humane Society is proud to be your partner.

[B]

Oh, my goodness.

[A]

And proud to be that for Nikki's lifetime, which is great. So as. As you, a potential adoptee of a retired working dog. Right. It's nice to know that, and we're really very committed to that. I ask every hero dog handler who comes into Robin's Nest one simple question. And I'm asking you, what is Nikki's superpower?

[B]

Nikki's superpower is her nose. Her nose. And her absolute desire to serve her country, her people, and just get up and work every day. Her, like I say, her nose. And that sounds hilarious, but the level of drive and lust that she has for her, the job that she was brought to do is incredible. She amazes me every day. She makes my job incredibly easy. And it's really easily done to be successful when you have a dog that is so amazing, and not just because she's mine, but I think the partner agencies that we are able to work with and everyone that we get to meet and when they meet Nikki, I think it just exudes from her how excited she is and how much she loves her job. So I think that's her superpower. She just gets. She loves it. So her worst day will be when she retires, unfortunately, because she won't have a job anymore. But I think you'll have to make.

[A]

Her have some sort of job, whatever you create in her retirement, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. Share with everyone's in Robin's Nest. Nikki's rank.

[B]

Nikki's rank. So in the Coast Guard or in all military facets, all of our dogs outrank the handler. So Nikki is a chief petty officer in the Coast Guard. She outranks me. She is my boss. She's the boss lady. And what she says goes every day. I think she knows it just a little bit, too.

[A]

I've met her and yes, she does. She can be my boss, too, by the way. She's wonderful. And what a great representative, as are you, of our United States Coast Guard. Thank you both for your service and thank you for being with us today in Robin's Nest.

[B]

Thank you so much, Robin.

[A]

And congratulations on being our military working dog hero of the year. Nikki.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Congratulations.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

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