Albee Al | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek — Episode: Albee Al (May 19, 2026)

Podcast: ROC Solid (The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Memphis Bleek
Guest: Albee Al
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Overview

This episode dives into the journey of Albee Al, a rapper from Jersey City, as he sits with hip-hop veteran Memphis Bleek for a candid, unfiltered conversation. The episode traces Albee Al’s origins, familial legacy, independent grind, challenges in the music industry, and the impact of his authenticity both on the streets and on the global stage. Personal stories of loss, resilience, and growth are coupled with insights into hip-hop culture, the pitfalls of the industry, and lessons for future generations. Expect storytelling, advice, hard-earned wisdom, and unique perspectives from both host and guest.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Albee Al’s Roots and Family Influence

• Jersey City origins and Marion Projects upbringing
  • “My pops was like—he’s a legend in his own right… he came up with like Dougie Fresh and all of them. He died when I was young... but R.I.P. Pops, he legendary though.” (Albee Al, [04:45])
• Early inspiration and musical beginnings
  • Albee was inspired by older heads in his neighborhood freestyling: “I used to be a young nigga, just sneaking around, listening… One time they let me rap, man, off the head, and I made some shit happen.” ([05:22])

The Grind: Mixtape Movement & Loss

• Mixtape hustle and key projects
  • “A Day, June 30th—that’s my first mixtape… the pain from losing my brother. My brother got killed on June 30th… So every day June 30th, I’m out.” (Albee Al, [07:45])
• Personal loss as creative fuel
  • The death of his brother continues to inform his music’s emotional truth and authenticity.

From Local to Global: When the Impact Grew

• Realization that he had fans beyond Jersey
  • “When I start traveling and going places and I’m getting recognized … I was in Cali, I’m thinking I’m low... I was so not low.” (Albee Al, [09:14])
• Encounters with fans and a surreal Amsterdam moment
  • Amsterdam Uber driver recognized him: “He’s like, ‘Are you him?’... I’m like, ‘yeah that’s me’... He like ‘No way, no way’… in Amsterdam, my nigga!” (Albee Al, [11:54])

Navigating Change: Mindset Shift from the Streets to Music

• Growth from survival mindstate to international recognition
  • “Before all of this was going on, you ever felt like you so close, but you so far at the same time? ...Now it makes me feel like I fucked this shit up. Nigga, you here... you on.” (Albee Al, [12:44])
  • Emphasizes the importance of not risking everything once his platform grew.

Industry Lessons — Authenticity and the Politics of Collaboration

• Industry’s “fake love” vs. real energy
  • “I see like the top industry person, period…and they just show me mad love. I’d be like, yo, why that love so private?” (Albee Al, [22:33])
  • Memphis Bleek references 50 Cent: “‘These rap niggas ain’t friends—they know how to pretend.’ That’s one of the illest, illest, truest bars.” ([23:08])
• Protecting creative energy
  • Beware sending music for collabs: “I send these niggas some records, I ain’t hear from them... they studyin’ me right here.” (Albee Al, [24:02])

The Creative Process & Expanding Musical Range

• Creating full bodies of work
  • “It’s like you making a robot human… you need the legs, you need the arms, you need the heart… I try to have something on there for every aspect.” (Albee Al, [14:14])
• Approaching “female records” and personal emotions
  • Memphis Bleek: “I’mma tell you a cheat code that I found about records with women late in life… You gotta really care to write those records.” ([15:29])
  • Albee Al: “I really ain’t got them emotions like that no more. I be really like, fuck y’all bitches…” ([16:28])

Hip-hop Globally: Amsterdam, Paris, and Touring

• Cultural shocks and funny stories
  • Amsterdam’s red light district: “We got a vision of people who never been there… the mannequins, nah, them bitches is moving…” (Albee Al, [17:30])
• The dangers and realities abroad
  • “You gotta be careful. They roughed up some of my guys—Dame and them got into some shit out there… Dame went out there recording.” (Memphis Bleek, [20:39])

Lessons for the Next Generation

• Advice to younger self and the youth
  • “Get the fuck outside. You fire. The world gonna love you, not just the city.” (Albee Al, [31:32])
  • Stressing importance of broadening horizons and the universality of struggle.

On Authenticity and the Cost of the Game

• Not all can make it, but try
  • “Everybody don’t make it... But you gotta—if you keep grinding, you gonna be further than where you at if you ain’t do shit. So, try, nigga.” (Albee Al, [40:51])
• Real life events shaping the music
  • “My last album… Don’t Compare Me on it...that shit is a no skips and it was goin’ crazy... I went to jail, the album out… Billboards…I can’t even experience that, I’m facing life… Three years in that bitch. I beat my case.” (Albee Al, [42:05])

Hip-hop Integrity: Street Credibility and Industry Illusions

• Bleek on inauthenticity and “hood pass”
  • “Stop making gangster music, leading the youth on that you gonna live this life knowing good and goddamn well ever since you signed on that dotted line, you ain’t live that life.” (Memphis Bleek, [51:09])
• Jay-Z wisdom on staying real
  • “Jay always told me this as a kid: ‘Bleek, only rappers that fall off or the raps get wack, it’s been—the lies run out. The rhymes run out; the lies run out, Bleek.’” (Memphis Bleek, [44:51])

Community, Gentrification, and Ownership

• Reflection on Jersey City’s changing landscape
  • “I ride through that motherfucker and I don’t even recognize shit. ...They knocking all the projects down… it just don’t look the same, bro.” (Albee Al, [34:41])
• Investment wisdom
  • “Grab all that shit up you can out there, bro. Any lot, anything you see available, call me if you don’t want to do it…” (Memphis Bleek, [35:29])

Giving Back & Lifting Up the Next Ones

• Taking young people out their comfort zone
  • “I just took some of my young boys to Miami, put them on a yacht...they never been on an airplane before… that shit motivate them differently.” (Albee Al, [32:39])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You don’t want followers, you want believers.” — Albee Al ([11:58])
• “It take 10 years to be a overnight success.” — Memphis Bleek ([06:13])
• “Once they paying you in Euros, you on.” — Memphis Bleek ([12:44])
• “I’m allergic to fake shit, bro. I start sneezing when I go around these niggas.” — Albee Al ([28:22])
• “You gotta read between the lines… stop misleading these kids, man. For real, man. Stop misleading these, man. That was a kid you misled. That’s why I went to jail.” — Albee Al ([47:44])
• On collaborations:
  “If you send a nigga some joints and they don’t send them back, trust me. They studyin’ you.” — Memphis Bleek ([24:25])
• On the authenticity of Bleek’s circle:
  “Out of all the industry homies, I done been around outside of Roc-A-Fella... I probably only got two real bros... John and Norrie, man.” — Memphis Bleek ([26:07])

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Key Timestamps

• 03:03 — [Intro] Memphis Bleek welcomes Albee Al
• 04:45 — Albee Al discusses family legacy and early inspiration
• 07:45 — The story behind “A Day, June 30th” and losing his brother
• 09:14 — Realizing his reach went beyond Jersey City
• 11:54 — Amsterdam recognition story
• 12:44 — Mindset shift: “You on.”
• 14:14 — Approach to creative process, crafting full projects
• 22:33 — Industry politics, “private love,” and dealing with fake friends
• 24:25 — On sending records and protecting your wave
• 31:32 — Advice to the younger Albee Al
• 34:41 — Gentrification of Jersey City and the value of real estate
• 40:51 — On risk, survival, and making it in the game
• 42:05 — Going to jail at “the height” of success; beating his case
• 44:51 — Jay-Z advice about authenticity
• 51:09 — On industry rappers faking stories and street life

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The Energy and Tone

The conversation is raw, deeply reflective, and unfiltered. Both Bleek and Albee Al discuss the realities of hip-hop, from the streets to stardom, without sugarcoating the hardships or glamorizing the struggle. Albee Al’s blend of street wisdom, vulnerability, and confidence complements Bleek’s OG perspective, peppered with anecdotes about the Roc-A-Fella days. The chemistry is grounded in mutual respect and love for authentic hustle.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a layered look at modern hip-hop through Albee Al’s life story: the pain becomes purpose, and purpose leads to perseverance. It’s a blueprint for anyone navigating music, loss, or trying to find their voice—the message: Stay authentic, bet on yourself, uplift the next, and never stop grinding.
“You make good music. Once your music get to the masses... they're gonna have to respect you.” — Memphis Bleek ([25:16])

Transcript

[Albee Al]

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[Memphis Bleak]

This your main man, Memphis Bleak, right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my gods over at Drink Champs. Yeah, y', all, you already know what it is. Yours truly back with another exclusive, and this one right here is as real as it get. I got my guy in the building, and when you say New Jersey to me, the first name I thought of was Tretch. Cause he made me want to be a gangster even more when he came out. And. And now my old ass trying to be gangsta when I throw his music on. Now let's welcome to the building my G, Albie Al, New Jersey's finest king of germs, holding the streets down. And if you don't know, get in tune. What's up, my dog?

[Albee Al]

What's up, my dog? Easy on you on my brother. You know me, man. Eazy on him. Jersey, what's up? Marion Projects. And it's motherfucking easy on him.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm dead ass serious, man. Like, Tretch was the first artist that made me feel like, damn, I gotta work out and get on some gangsta shit.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, that's gang.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm just fucking with the bitches. But then you're not listening to your music. You talk that pain, you talk that real struggle that, like, it's almost like through your music, I feel like I'm from Marion Projects with you.

[Albee Al]

Say that. Say that.

[Memphis Bleak]

I respect the hustle, the struggle, and what you doing and how you pushing it. So before we get into the new shit, let's go back. Speaking of Marion Projects, Jersey City in the building. You already know what's up, man. What was it like back then, growing up, you know what I mean? To give you. What inspired you to even start this movement?

[Albee Al]

I, like, first of all, that shit already. Like, my pops. My pops was like. Was like a. He's a legend in his own right. You know what I'm saying? Everybody know that. Like, he came up with, like, Dougie Fresh and all of them.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, shit.

[Albee Al]

So he was running around with, like, Dougie Fresh used to be running with them. My pops, my Pops was like one of the illest MCs back in the day. That's what's up, you know what I mean? He died when I was young, though. But RP Pops, he legendary, though, you know what I'm saying? And it's crazy. I ain't really know about my pops that. Because he died since I was so young, you know what I mean? Until, like, I was going to jail, when I was going to jail, I'm seeing old heads and they. And my name. We got the same name.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Albee Al]

So they like, they just look at me, they're like, your name. I'll be out. Like, I'll be out. Your pops. And they just tell me mad stories about my father. Like, I had, like, the most. The most respect from all old heads, old head fiends in the county, all of that, man. They just treated me like, yo, man, your pops, your pops, you feel me? So know what I mean? So it was already in me, you know what I mean? But, like, when it start coming out, I say, just the atmosphere to being in the hood, man. Like, watching and watching the dope boys in the hood in the parking lot, they used to be freestyling off of beats and shit. And I used to be a young nigga, just sneaking around, listening to them niggas and waiting for my turn. One time they let me rap, man, off the head, and I made some shit happen. They was like, yo, you need to do that shit. You feel me? So I just started fucking with it in school, just writing raps in school, and it just became this. It took a while to get here, though. But, yeah, hell yeah, man. You know how to. You know the grind, man. The grind. Never easy, man. Your grind. Can't sleep, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. A lot of these kids think you just pick up the pen and tomorrow you got a deal. They don't know it take 10 years to be a overnight success.

[Albee Al]

Nah, for real. And it's expensive. You got bet on yourself.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. And the expense don't stop. The more you get famous, the more the expense go.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I mean? Like, shit is real. Do you remember your first freestyle or joint that you recorded or released? And you was like, man, hold on. This really good work.

[Albee Al]

Like, nah, no doubt. Hell yeah. It was. We had like, mixtapes in my city go crazy. And I was on my man, DJ Simic Simmich from the Hikes. DJ Simic, he was like. He used to have the mixtapes and shit. So, yo, we did that Shit, like, on a microphone and like a Pentasonic or something.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, word up.

[Albee Al]

That's what it. Like, we did that shit, like, on a microphone or Pentasonic, and I spit some shit off of. I don't even remember what beat it was, but I went off that beat and they start fucking with that shit in the hood, the project's going with it, you know what I'm saying? It just became one of them little raps.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that's crazy. You bring up the mic and the Panasonic. I remember my first mic recording. Nigga had the headphones. You had to hold the other side so it don't give feedback and rap through the other end of the headphones. The first mic I ever used. Word up. It's crazy.

[Albee Al]

That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

But that's dope. Like, early mixtape movements, like, you was definitely on it. I could say your independent grind is one of the things that attracted me to, you know what I mean? They hear you pushing so hard and dropping classics, like, everyday June 30th.

[Albee Al]

Series. Hell, yeah. Hell yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Tell them about that, man.

[Albee Al]

That a day, June 30th. Like, that's like. That's like my. That's my first, like, mixtape that I ever put out. Like, that I put on, like, a streaming platform, you know what I mean? And that ended up being, like, one of my biggest mixtapes. Biggest. Like, I started doing series on it, but it just. It stands for, like, the pain from losing my brother, so, you know what I mean? My brother got killed on June 30th, you feel me? So I'll be. I'm on some shit, like, a day, the same day, a day. I feel the same way. Like, so it's like every day, June 30th, like, no matter what it could. Like, today, June 30th, I'm out. You know what I mean? Ain't a day go by without me thinking about my brother and what happened to my brother. So that's where all the pain with the music and all of that shit come from.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's real, man. That's real. Rest in peace, bro. Man, every day, June 30th.

[Albee Al]

Every day, June 30th.

[Memphis Bleak]

Classic. Classic run. If you haven't tapped in, make sure you tap in, man. Hell, yeah. Classic classic records, like, 10 toes down, don't Compare Me became. I don't wanna say street anthems just became Tri State bangers everywhere. You went out here, didn't matter. New York, New Jersey, you heard those records, all the young boys blasting them. You Know what I'm saying? When did you realize, like, it was bigger than just Jersey City?

[Albee Al]

When I realized that? I think when I start traveling, I start traveling. Like, when I go places, I'm like, when I start traveling and going places and I'm getting recognized and. And people seeing me, I'm like, oh, you feel me? Like, every time I go somewhere, if I go there again, it's always different and bigger. Love.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

And that'd be the Right there that be having me. Like, yo, damn. Like, but that definitely, like, it got. It got so bigger than Jersey. It's crazy. Like, Jersey is home base. You feel me? Like, you know how that go? You feel me? But when that. When I start traveling, moving around, I'm like, oh. I'm like, I was in. Where the. I was at one time. Cali. I was in Cali one time. I'm thinking I'm low. I was so not low. They was on me like, oh, my oldest shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm thinking I'm low. I'm so not low. And that's a fact. When you think they watching you, they not. And when you think you low, they on you.

[Albee Al]

I swear.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, that in the game. I swear, I thought I was loaded on me.

[Albee Al]

Yo, people were sitting there waiting for me outside the store. Like, yo, I'll be out. I'm like, if you with my man, hell yeah. I'm like, damn, we could do something with this. This could go somewhere.

[Memphis Bleak]

Coming. Coming from the streets, being outside, putting in pain, doing whatever we had to do to survive. You know what I'm saying? That's what I call it. Survival tactics.

[Albee Al]

Know that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Going from that to this. People walking up to you, yo, I with your music, yo, I with you recognizing you. I know that. Gotta feel like, damn, this is. This is what I do this shit for. For the people to feel my pain. Like, so is that surprising to you, or was that something you was looking for? Nah.

[Albee Al]

Like, it's always, like, I'm always, like, overwhelmed with this shit. Like, that shit made me feel so good. Like, I had an overseas tour last year. Like, you feel me? I had. So I supposed to went to the uk, but they stopped me from going to the uk. They didn't let me in. They started some, like, started moving, like, Canada type shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way. Yeah, Canada.

[Albee Al]

But I had other stops, like in Paris, Amsterdam and all of that shit. So I'm an Amsterdam. I mean, like, that shit come from, like, the history books in school, you feel me? With the Anne Frank and all of that. So, you know, I'm going out there to Amsterdam. Like, let me see what's going. I want to go to Anne Frank house. So we get to, like, the Uber. We going. Yo, the Uber driver just kept looking back and shit. So I don't know. I be. I'm. No matter where I'm at, I be trying to be comfortable, but I still be paranoid. Cause of the move, Know what I mean? Traumatized from watching.

[Memphis Bleak]

Take it.

[Albee Al]

You feel me? So it's like, you feel me? Make it sad I don't got no.

[Memphis Bleak]

Already got those skills.

[Albee Al]

Hell yeah. You feel me? So I just be watching this. So the Uber driver just keep looking back, and he just keep looking back. And I'm like, what's up with this tap, shorty? Like, yo, my bro, keep looking back. This human traffic ain't working today.

[Memphis Bleak]

Gonna clip you there it up.

[Albee Al]

So he like, yo. So he just like, are you. Are you? Are you him? Are you? I'm like, he like, are you him?

[Memphis Bleak]

Are you him right here?

[Albee Al]

Like, he listening. Like, he got my music in his.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, that's fire.

[Albee Al]

I'm like. I'm like, yeah, that's me. He's like, you look just like this guy. You look just like. I'm like, yeah, that's me. That's me. He like, no way. No way. I'm like, he like, yo. He's like, yo, me and my wife was looking for you all the time. They said you was out. I'm like, yo, it was crazy that in Amsterdam, my, like now, I mean, so it's like this. This how I feel about it. Like, before all of this was going on, Like, I'm like, like, you ever felt like you so close, but you so far at the same time? Of course I'm like, yo, I could make it, but. Cause everybody telling me I could make it, niggas believe in me. And that's what you don't want followers, you want believers. You know that's right. So. But just to see that right there now, it makes me feel like. It make me feel like I fucked this shit up. You get what I'm saying? Like, nigga, you here. You in the game. It's no longer you trying to get on. N you on.

[Memphis Bleak]

Once they paying you in Euros, you on.

[Albee Al]

You get what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

You on.

[Albee Al]

I'm like, yo, you on. So anything that happened from this, like, you could call me stupid, whatever the fuck it is, I deserve that. Before, it was like, nigga, you don't even know. Like, when I went to Jail. Last time, you man the fuck outta. Y' all don't even know what the fuck a nigga really was going through. You type shit. You get what I'm saying? But this time, it's like, you go to jail right now, nigga, you an idiot. You feel me? So everything gotta be worth it. It gotta be worth it. You feel me? You know I ain't tucking my tail ever, but it's just like, it gotta be worth it, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's like you're not gonna just jump out the window for nothing, man. I pray you don't like, you know what I mean? The opportunity here is greater than it ever been, man. Back in my day, doing the things y' all do was what we dreamed of. We dreamed of having these brands behind us, these sponsorships at the shows. Remember? They didn't fuck with us. We used to just rock clothes or rep a brand, and that was it. You wouldn't see us in the commercial, right? Right now y' all got that path.

[Albee Al]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's like, man, take full advantage of it.

[Albee Al]

Absolutely.

[Memphis Bleak]

All the money they want to give and more. Trust me.

[Albee Al]

Hell yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, I wanted to say, like, your project coming from Marion, it felt bigger than a mixtape. That's like album material. You know what I'm saying? I felt like that stamped your impact, your movement, who you are, what you represent. Like, how did that. Making that project. What was that thought process for you?

[Albee Al]

I was really in, like. I was really in album mode, too. I'm glad you peeped that. You feel me? I was in album mode. I was just even like, with the intro, I'm from Marion intro. It just. I just wanted to feel like, like. Cause first of all, it was like, for me to name the album after where I grew up at, I had to come like that. You know what I'm saying? I had to put on for the hood. So I was just in album mode. I just wanted to give them that shit. Like, give him my story. It's like when I'm putting a project together, it's like building. It's like you making a robot human. You feel me for me. So it's like you need the legs, you need the arms, you need the heart. You feel me? You need to create that shit. So I don't like to just put, like, anything in. I try to have something on there for every aspect of the. You feel me? Of course I'm gonna give you that core albial hardcore shit, pain shit. But I also like to give them everything. Cause Like, I'm an all around artist. Like. So, like, as far as, like, I could talk, I could do shit for the bitches. Cause the nigga fuck bitches, you know what I'm saying? I ain't afraid to, like, that's a fact, you feel me? I don't like to just pocket myself. I could do shit for the bitches. I could do shit for the club nigga. Like partying. You feel me? So. And I could do shit for the streets. Cause I'm really from that. You get what I'm saying? So I ain't afraid to, like, go all around with this shit. You know what I mean? I don't like to just stay in, like, one lane with that shit. You feel me? Like, you know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

I'mma tell you a cheat code that I found out about records with women late in life. Cause I used to look at jai and be like, damn, this nigga killing it. Put it on me. What would I be without you? It wasn't until I got married and I wrote and I'm looking at my wife and I'm sitting there writing a record and I'm like, oh, this motherfucker Ja Cheated. Oh, this nigga been married.

[Albee Al]

This whole.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, he was just looking at his wife. Yeah, what would I be without you?

[Albee Al]

Like, yeah, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

I called him like, nigga, I got the cheat code too. I'm old now. I'm gonna give it to the young niggas.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, yeah, do that.

[Memphis Bleak]

You gotta really. I feel like you gotta really to get those records. You gotta really care. Yeah, that's why I made records. Like, is that your bitch?

[Albee Al]

Right, right, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was kicking them out. I couldn't make up for it. I didn't know what that felt like.

[Albee Al]

Nah, I couldn't relate to that. I understand. I feel you. I feel you.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? So when you say, I'm making the bitch records, it's levels.

[Albee Al]

Nah, I feel that because at the same time, like, when my shit, like, bitches be like. Cause I make good songs for the females. Like, them shits be. They love when I do that, right? But so they be like, yo, you need to put more of that shit on your album. You need to do more of that shit. I'm like, I really ain't got them emotions like that no more. I be really like, fuck y' all bitches. Like, for real, I'm not doing nothing.

[Memphis Bleak]

You gotta really care to write those records. Cause even when you look at DMX and he got those records.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

That nigga was really married to him.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, he was really married too.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? These niggas that be making those records, be. They got shorty tucked away.

[Albee Al]

So you saying I need to get married?

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, nah, no, no. I'm not saying jump the broom. Nope, nope, nope, nope. That's not advice I'm giving.

[Albee Al]

I say that, say that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Live your life and when Tom is right, you'll make the decision.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, say that, but my Tom ain't right right now. Don't think. I'm just saying.

[Memphis Bleak]

You came from Amsterdam.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

They took you to the red light.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, say that. You seen that out there. Crazy, right?

[Memphis Bleak]

Like buying Js.

[Albee Al]

Yo, you won't believe that shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Everything in the window. Let me get that right there. Size 8.

[Albee Al]

Yo, we got a vision of people that never been there. Yo, you know how you walking in the mall, you know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

And you see, you see mannequins dressed up.

[Albee Al]

No, them is moving.

[Memphis Bleak]

Ready, ready, like, like, come on, they moving.

[Albee Al]

They looking at you like, come here. Pain too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, whatever you want, bro. Midgets. The old whatever you want. It's a human porn site out there.

[Albee Al]

I'm telling you, brother, bitches is sitting there waiting to get picked on.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. By Jesus.

[Albee Al]

Some of them got two. It's like. It's like a upstairs, downstairs, you just walking that they say you can't record. You know, I'm from Jersey, I'm like.

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[Albee Al]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Albee Al]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, now you gotta be careful. You know, they roughed up like some of my guys from the Rock got. Dame and them got us some shit out there. Dame went out there recording. Yeah, Biggs Dame, he was out there recording. The RA and the gangsters was like, yo, turn them cameras off. You know, New York, whatever. They rumble niggas up. You rough niggas up out there. I ain't gonna lie. Cause I remember getting the call. Niggas was getting stitched up. Niggas getting f ed up out there in the end, like them niggas. Hey, yo, it's two worlds in Amsterdam, you know, at night, right, you see in the daytime it's mad Europeans, everybody mad white face. It's cool when the sun go down. Who outside? All the Africans.

[Albee Al]

Like, yeah, it look like taken. I'm trying to tell

[Memphis Bleak]

all the Africans like this, what up, man? What you need? You need smoke? You need directing? What you need?

[Albee Al]

Yo, it's rough out there, boy. Like, yo, don't go out there playing

[Memphis Bleak]

niggas Will scuff you up.

[Albee Al]

And ain't nobody there to help you either. I don't see no police or nothing, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, they don't regulate none of that shit. It's just free world, man. It's like, go ahead, do your thing, man. Like, and go to Rotterdam. That's one of the reasons I like Ireland. Because it's that old school before the pistol game. Cause I feel like Pistols, we owe everybody.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Fighting, that's real.

[Albee Al]

Your heart.

[Memphis Bleak]

You gotta have that.

[Albee Al]

You gotta have that. You know what I mean? To put that rumble in.

[Memphis Bleak]

And in Dublin, they'll scuff you up, too. Them niggas love the scuffle. What they live for a fight, my nigga. Yo, like, let's get back when you started getting looks from platforms like my brother Sway, you know what I mean? Shout out Sway in the morning. That's my guy now. I mean, shit like that. Then you got the major distribution through Empire. Did it feel like the world was finally catching up to you?

[Albee Al]

Yeah, hell yeah. Like, it's like I always been. Like, it be glimpse of that shit. You feel me? And that be the weird shit with the industry too, like. Cause I be seeing, like, niggas, I see like the. The top rappers, you feel me? That, like, that's or top industry person, period. And they run into me and they just show me mad love. And I'd be like, yo, why that love? So, like, so private? Like, yeah, if you saying you like. Like, oh, I. With your. All the time, like, what's going on? Like, you know what I'm saying? Why you ain't. You know what I'm saying? Why it takes for me to finally run into you to say that when. Yeah, bro, that should be crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

These industry is. That's one thing. Like, you know, niggas 50, whatever they say, what they say. But 50 got one of the illest lines, man. These rap niggas ain't friends. They know how to pretend. Yeah, that's one of the illest, illest, truest bars of these rap niggas that describe this industry. These niggas know how to pretend, bro.

[Albee Al]

And I want you to know it ain't stopped, though. You get what I'm saying? If it was going on when you was out, y' all was moving around. That shit's still going on today, yo. That shit. These rap niggas is divas, bro. These niggas is hoes.

[Memphis Bleak]

I tell niggas, they just find a nice way to tell you fuck off.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, for real.

[Memphis Bleak]

Be all night. Soon as you walk away. Don't change his number. Don't answer the phone. Put you in the phone. That's. Don't pick up.

[Albee Al]

Like, I had some. One of the illest shit with this rap shit is this, like, niggas will hit me up, right? And they be like, yo, I want. Yo, we gotta do something. We gotta do something. And I be like, all right, cool. Hell yeah. You know? Cause this, to me, it's like. It's a swap.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

If you the bigger artist, I need your fans. Let's swap it out. Come here. Come here. So nigga be like. Nigga be like, yo, send me some records. Let me see what you working on. And then this weird ass. I send these some records. I ain't hear from the nothing. I'm like, yo, this better. I be stealing my.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that's what they catch this thing.

[Albee Al]

I was spanking them.

[Memphis Bleak]

They're not stealing your. Your. What they're doing is biting.

[Albee Al]

Right, right, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

They feel you got the wave.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

So you sending a. Your music. They figuring out how I'm gonna get this wave. And they studying you right here. So that's what they doing. If they. If you send a. Some joints and they don't send them back. Trust me. Yeah, they study.

[Albee Al]

Exactly. Hell yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You the encyclopedia.

[Albee Al]

Nah, I know that. Hell, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. So take it as a compliment, too. And plus, you got here without these niggas.

[Albee Al]

Nah, absolutely.

[Memphis Bleak]

You need none of these niggas, bro. Don't think you need none of these niggas. They need you.

[Albee Al]

Absolutely.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? Always remember that, bro. Like, that's how we came in this shit. Straight from Marcy. We ain't care about nobody. We wasn't trying to be friendly. Be down. They ain't fuck with us from the beginning, so it was like. We ain't fuck with nobody either.

[Albee Al]

That's our energy right there. Me and my squad, we just. We walk in. We walk in the rooms. We already feel attention, but at the same time, they know, yeah, them real just walked in this room. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

They don't respect.

[Albee Al]

Yeah. Tighten the up. You know, I know y' all know

[Memphis Bleak]

who to walk on this, and they gotta respect it. Like the number one thing. It's only two kinds of music in this world. My is good music, and there's not good music.

[Albee Al]

Right, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

And you make good music. And once your music get to the masses. And they're gonna have to respect you and all the people that fake in front of. They gonna come back around and lay down and really be like, yo, bro, I need you. Yo, come do. Pull up over here. Do this. Yeah, I did all that, my G. I just was telling niggas out of all the industry homies, I done been around outside of Roc A fella, I probably only got two real bros that I consider, like, rap niggas. That's my bros. John Norrie, man, that's crazy. I could pick up that phone any given time, and them my dogs. Like, that's my bros. Outside of this rap shit, everybody else, I feel like we cool, but you really my bro.

[Albee Al]

Yeah. And Nori. Nori, let me say this. Yo, we from Jersey City. Like, I'm from Jersey City. We fuck with Nori. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, his music, like, really, like, we really, like, came up off his music. And a lot of niggas don't know, like, how fire Nori was. You get what I'm saying? So now the new people, they know him as, like, the Reggae dawn or the podcasting. Nah, Nori had the streets where I'm from. I even freestyled off a lot of his beats, bro. You get what I'm saying? I can't wait. Meet that. I really want to meet that. I'm a holler.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way, man. Damn.

[Albee Al]

Now I got.

[Memphis Bleak]

And no, stop playing. You gonna pull up the Jersey City man. Word up. And no drink champs, man.

[Albee Al]

Stop playing tap in, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

He a drink. He. He ready.

[Albee Al]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

You know one of my dogs that's. Oh, he ready.

[Albee Al]

Drink champs. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, but this current run you on, it feel like a resurgence run, like, from the new visuals, the major collaborations. You've been class. Shout out. My dog, Freeway. You know that's my brother, too.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, Freeway.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I mean? Y' all been making some heat. Jada, everybody. What's most exciting about what you got going on right now?

[Albee Al]

I think. I think right now, this is this, like. Like I was saying, like, I'm on right now, but this. What I'm about to do right now is, like, it's about to. It's like I'm. It's over. Yeah. It's like it's everything because the I got coming up, the features I got and then my projects that I got coming up, it's like I'm in my own. I'm in my bag right now where it's like, I know where this shit about to go, and it's about to go where it should have been. You feel me? And I'm proud of that. I'm proud of what I'm about to do for the rest of this year. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's really about to happen for me. You feel me where it's though? Like, oh, this shit about to rain on these niggas. Like, all good music, all good. Like, people gonna see these connections and shit that I made. You feel me? Cause, you know, it's like, I got a problem networking, man. I don't be like these. You feel me? I'm terrible.

[Memphis Bleak]

You gotta get one of the homies for you, man.

[Albee Al]

You feel me? So when you see me rocking with a. You see me with some. You see me doing music with a person, it's like, I genuinely like. Like with that. Or we really like. Or. Or he with me, too, and we just made that shit happen. You feel me? Because it's like, it's hard. It's hard for me to, like, rock with these niggas because. I don't know. I just be. They. I just fuck with real shit, bro. It's a fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's a fact.

[Albee Al]

I'm allergic to, bro. I start sneezing when I go around these.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up. Break out in highs. Like, nigga, I gotta get the out of here. I feel you. And I've been that way my whole career, man. Like. Like, I heard you had a joint. Like, y' all was working. I don't know how true it is. I heard through the streets, though, that you and Beans come on. You know what I'm saying? Broad street, that's my bro, you know? I mean, like, you heard me say outside of Rockefeller, but Rockefeller, the crew, yeah, that's my family, man. All of them.

[Albee Al]

That's one of my favorite rappers of all time. You feel me?

[Memphis Bleak]

Bings was a yo. He made me nice. Nicer because he was super nice when he first came out.

[Albee Al]

I'm like, nah, I want ridiculous, bro. I could imagine how the studio sessions were. I just want to be a flower. Yo, y'.

[Memphis Bleak]

All.

[Albee Al]

Y' all be bugging. Oh, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was on some Beans. Like the studio dark.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Beans want the studio dark. Lights, like, color. Put the red lights on. Yeah. Matter of fact, make this purple.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like the incense go. Put the candles on, rolling up sticks. And he just. Just sitting there.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, m. I got it. Be like, what? I got it. Let's go.

[Albee Al]

Damn.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, nah, Beans is different that. Go to sleep, bro. Like, literally sleep with the beat playing.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Wake up and be like, Yo, I got the verse.

[Albee Al]

N. That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

And like, yo, I spit it. Let's go.

[Albee Al]

That dreamed that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. I'm telling you, Beans was on some different. He one of the illest working with, like, besides, of course, Jay Jay, that just. You be in a limo ride, going to the airport with this. Like, you get to the airport, like, yo, I got a hook for you. Like, what hook? Yo, this one. Yo, just blaze. I need you to make a beat that go like this. He'll tell the beat and everything. Me, I need the beat.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Without the beat, you. I don't know what I'm writing. We lost, we got. We gonna pick some shit out the air. Play a beat. I got you. Yeah, Say that type of nigga, I tell you, make the beat like this.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause I wrote the words like this already.

[Albee Al]

Right, right, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

So that's next level.

[Albee Al]

Damn. Say that.

[Memphis Bleak]

See, was different with it. Word.

[Albee Al]

Like, Beans fuck with me. Heavy, too. Like, real, real heavy. We got, like, a good relationship. Every time he see me, I was just honored the fact when I seen him and he was like, I'm just. I'm coming to give him his flowers. You know what I'm saying? And he was just like, nah, nigga, you. Nigga, you the Broad street bully right now.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's why I'm telling you, man.

[Albee Al]

I ain't gonna lie. You my favorite rapper right now. Let's just show him. Give me. I'm like, what?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, bro, when I like. And this is all honest. When I see you. When I first see you. And I don't like comparing niggas, but the vibe you give me is not to one nigga. Like, it's multiple different movements. When I see you, I see the hunger of Beans. I see the grind in the crew like a true life in them. I see the pain of a little dirk in them, you know what I'm saying? I see it's a lot of elements and your whole movement, bro, and it's all classic niggas, like, they like. It's some fraudulent fruit cups.

[Albee Al]

Nah, never know that your shit is

[Memphis Bleak]

authentically real, my nigga. Trust me all the way, 100%. Like, you got records. Like, come back outside. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, approaching music differently. What would you say to the younger Alby?

[Albee Al]

The younger me? I feel like if I could talk to the younger me as far as, like, making music himself, I think he just should have been outside more, you know what I'm saying? Cause, like, you know, I Was just. I was just. And still is. Like, I was just. I was just a newspaper bro. I was just like a. Like I was just talking about what's going on where I'm from and what I'm going through and what my city going. You know what I'm saying? That type of shit. So I didn't understand the fact that me talking about where I'm from, that the world would be able to relate to that because they going through the same. Cause that the younger me ain't been out. That wasn't out of that element. I never left the projects. I never left my city. You know what I'm saying? If we. If we left the state, we went to Times Square with our. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like that. So I didn't know this could go that far. I didn't know if I step outside of my. Of my comfort zone that these niggas right here in New Orleans would be banging my shit because they going through the same shit. So that's what I tell myself. I'd be like, get the outside. You fire. Like, the world gonna love you, not just the city.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

I'm saying. So that's one thing. And even these young need to see that too. Like. Because a lot of from our projects, like young boys is coming up. All they know is the projects too, you know, I mean, I just took some of my young boys to Miami, put them on a yacht. Just to their brain up, man. Had bitches little. They never been on the airplane before, you know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, so it's just like, I can't knock it. I ain't been on one to come an age, bro.

[Albee Al]

You feel me? So it's just like that shit motivate them differently that. I mean, so it's like. And then one of the little bros, he couldn't go because he was on an ankle bracelet. And they was cutting his ankle bracelet off at that time. He could know what I'm saying? But that's just. That just shows he gonna learn from that, like. Cause he watching stories like, damn, I could have been there. So if you wasn't out here doing stupid shit, you wouldn't be on that bracelet. You'd have been with the rest of the bros. So it's a lesson learned from both of them. They had. They had an experience. And now he watching like, damn. You feel me? So, like, damn, I could have been there. I could have been a part of that, But I wasn't doing dumb shit. You Feel me? So I try to move my little young niggas the right way. Word up.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that's a real thing because, like, you know, each. I always felt like every artist, no matter if you from a different city, different country, different borough, in New York, everybody bought their own story. What they environment was. Nobody's story is the same. You go from Woo to Biggie to Nas to J to Ja to you to Fab me. None of our stories are the same, right? Me and Jay live in the same building and our story wasn't the same. It's crazy, you know what I'm saying?

[Albee Al]

Exactly.

[Memphis Bleak]

So like, Jersey City always had like a different grip. When back in the day I came through here, Jersey City was Brooklyn. The shit was different. It was two ways. You come out that Holland Tunnel, you go left grimy, you go right grimy. It was no way to go. You go straight to 95, you buy your bitch.

[Albee Al]

Uh huh.

[Memphis Bleak]

That shaped a lot of your storytelling and seeing the city build up. Cause now Jersey City look like fucking mad.

[Albee Al]

Hey, what the fuck?

[Memphis Bleak]

You fly over. I don't know the difference.

[Albee Al]

It's like, yo, yo, what the fuck?

[Memphis Bleak]

So I know that had to inspire you. Being there, watching the city change, it's like, nigga, do you feel like you evolved just like your city did?

[Albee Al]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In some points. You feel me? Most definitely. Cause I ride through that motherfucker and I don't even recognize shit. I'm like, what the fuck? We just went through the hood last night to go pull up on my cousin for his birthday. And I'm just like, the block don't even look like the block. You know what I'm saying? I go to my projects, but I grew up in two areas in Jersey City, you feel me? So I grew up in the projects, but I also grew up on a block. So my mom's working two jobs. She dropped me off at my grandmom's house. So now I'm on a block, you feel me? So I'm up there yesterday just like, damn, this shit just look crazy like, you feel me? Like, it don't look like they really like got our shit looking like. I mean, that's a good dang 42nd street, man. It's a beautiful thing. They cleaning it up and all of that shit, man. But like, damn, they still look. They knock, you know, they knocking all the projects down, all that shit, you feel me? So it's like, it just don't look the same, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what my advice to you would be? Grab all that shit up you can out there, bro.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, most definitely.

[Memphis Bleak]

Anything, any lot. Anything you see available. Call me if you don't want to do it. Bleak. I see a lot right here. I'mma pull up, we go grab it together.

[Albee Al]

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Straight up. Cause they about to build that whole shit up. I watched them do it.

[Albee Al]

It's the house I grew up in. House I grew up in. And it's a. What you call them? Brownstone.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Albee Al]

So back then we didn't even really notice that it was a brownstone. We from the yeah yeah crib.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Albee Al]

You feel me, man?

[Memphis Bleak]

That shit worth like 10 million now. 8 million.

[Albee Al]

It's the house we grew up in. 8 Park Street. Google it. 8 Park Street, Jersey City. That shit worth some bread.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's how it is in Brooklyn, bro. Going to certain places. Like I used to go to Hart Street. Used to be house that had. You had to put the two wires together. Cause they bell was broke. You put the wires together to ring the bell and they bring the weed out to to you. Yeah, bro, that crib probably worth 15 million right now.

[Albee Al]

Crazy in the middle of the train. I can't even ring the bell and be like, yo, that's the lit, right? What the.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I'm telling you bro. Like I look at Hoboken like that. I used to drive through Hoboken was the same. Cause you know, it's all connected. That wasn't like it is now.

[Albee Al]

No way.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now Trump moving Hoboken. Good luck.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, for real.

[Memphis Bleak]

Good luck. You got a better chance. I got a call now. Hov, I need you to co sign on this crib for me. Me these talking about 20 million. I only got five.

[Albee Al]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now I need help.

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[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, hip hop has always been like, you know, a turning point, turning pain into purpose. How has the truth shaped the music of survival for you? Like, you know, a lot of people, a lot of artists. When I'm saying that, I'm saying that like a lot of artists always say, yo, I'm keeping it real. Or, you know, I'm 100 in this. But then you could get there, you could listen to the music and see them and know you ain't you, ain't you. You come to you. Like I said, everything is authentic. So what's your advice to the youth that's pushing that pain for purpose? Trying to turn pain into survival?

[Albee Al]

Right?

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying?

[Albee Al]

I just think, I think, I think it's like, it's like everybody don't Get a chance to, like, make it out. You feel me? So with the music you gonna, like, you gonna go through this shit. Some people gonna make it talking about what they going through. And some people gonna make it, but everybody ain't gonna make it. Like, you ain't gonna go through that bitch clean.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

Something gonna happen scuffed up. You get what I'm saying? Exactly. You not about to go through there clean. Something gonna happen. It's either the shit you rapping about that's a lie. The shit you talking about, you might end up going to jail for that shit, bro. But then again, you might get signed by somebody that's gonna. And you be able to change your whole team life, your family life and all of that shit. Just understand that it's a risk you taking.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

And with everything, every reward that you want is a risk. You gotta understand that. So you can't just dink like, oh, why? I bet why? I ain't knowing yet. I'm told this was going on. Yeah, you fire, bro. But everybody don't make it, bro. Everybody don't make it. But you gotta. If you keep grinding, keep going, you gonna be further than where you at if you ain't do shit. So it's like, try, nigga.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. Build up. I always tell niggas, man, you gotta tell me. Knowing another language for me to stop.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, for real.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? And I had homies. Like, when you say that, like, everybody ain't gonna make it. Everybody. But at least try. Like, I feel like that's how my dog, H. Moneybags was. You know, he was so he like, he remind you. He remind me of you, too. Like, he's the same light skin, Muslim, hazel eyes, running around on some straight goon. Didn't understand the meaning of chill. The check is in the mail, my G. Like, yo, we just did my right remix. You rhyming right after hole.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, just relax. Just relax, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

Money coming, bro. And he didn't understand it, you know what I mean? In jail cost us a run, you know what I'm saying?

[Albee Al]

Right, right, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

To hear you say that is, like, that's real good advice. Cause I wish I was smart enough to see it then to tell them better. But, you know, when you in the circle, niggas don't listen. They only listen from outside the circle.

[Albee Al]

Yeah. Like, my last charge before I went to jail, my last time, like, I think. I think where I'm at right now, I had to Put the Reese reboot and get the blood, sweat and tears and keep going again. But before I went to jail, like I think I was like, I was outta here, like outta here. Like where I'm at, I'd have been there. Where I'm at right now, you get what I'm saying? Because I had just signed a big deal with Empire Ghazi and I couldn't miss, you get what I'm saying? Like everything I dropped was just going crazy. And then that last album, I dropped this shit called King Opp. That's what. Don't compare me on it. That's right. That shit is a no skips and it was gone crazy, you get what I'm saying? Shit was gone, I went to jail, the album out, you feel me? I'm like like billboards. Cos coming in there, I just seen your billboard. I can't even experience that I'm facing life. I'm like, yo, what the fuck, you feel me? And then niggas coming in jail, yo, your new song going crazy, this in the dirt. And then I sit in there doing Covid locked up, facing life, you know what I'm saying? Three years in that bitch. I beat my case.

[Memphis Bleak]

God bless, you know what I'm saying?

[Albee Al]

God bless. I beat my case. So when I beat my case, niggas just keep telling me about don't compare me. I didn't know what was going on. I knew the song was fire, but I didn't. I come home, I see the views on this shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like like, nah, that.

[Albee Al]

Then I perform this, it's stupid.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm telling you.

[Albee Al]

I'm like, oh man, classic, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I see the growth. So I know you, you being there, being the one. Me, I watched it from the outside. I've been tapped in, shout out. My guy, Puzo Jers, he was the first one Bleak. I'm telling you, niggas ain't fucking with Al B Al. I'm like, who?

[Albee Al]

Like let me hear it.

[Memphis Bleak]

And ever since that went home, let me study this nigga, see how some shit let me go on his YouTube

[Albee Al]

real quick, see what's really cracking.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's how I been on it, my dude. Appreciate that. When people hear Albie Al, what you want them to associate with your body at work, you know what I mean?

[Albee Al]

That motherfucker lit that shit. He on that for real, you feel me? He ain't misguiding, he ain't misleading, you feel me? He really about this shit and that. He a stand up individual. You feel Me, he a honorable man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

Word up. So when they hear my music, they know what they about to get into, you feel me? And I know. Know people that probably listen, like, oh, I be talking about this, this, and the third. This my life. It's that I've been through that. I witnessed all of that. Like, this real life, what I'm going through, I'm gonna give it to you. You know what I'm saying? I'd have seen this, bro. Like, a lot of. A lot of. I got friends that died at 14 years old. You get what I'm saying? Like, not me to this. You feel me? And we still here dugging. We still here pushing this, pushing this shit. So it's like, I love that shit. I love when motherfuckers see me and give me my flowers. I love when motherfuckers see me and tell me to keep going. You feel me? You know what I mean? It makes me feel like I'm doing something right. Word up.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, bro. Like another piece of advice. You just made me. Like I'm telling you, when people be saying certain things, it triggers certain memories, man, knowing how real your shit is, right? Jay always told me this as a kid. Bleep. Only rappers that fall off or the raps get whacked back. It's been the lies run out. Lies run out. The rhymes run out bleak when they gotta. When there's no more lies to tell. So that's how know. Yeah, this your life. Cause you can't lie about it.

[Albee Al]

No, I know that. I swear to God. You're only gonna do.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm gonna run out of. If I'm trying to be Biggie, he gonna go on vacation. I' ma miss a week. I don't know what he did.

[Albee Al]

That's crazy, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, what's next for you, my G? You know? I mean, what does the future look like from here? What. What's the next drop? What's the next tour I'm on?

[Albee Al]

These rat ass ass.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. I see you, yo, yo, I see you.

[Albee Al]

He been spraying the rain like a rat ass, man. You nobody. Nobody's safe, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's.

[Albee Al]

Nobody's safe. I don't care where you from.

[Memphis Bleak]

Trying to move the goal post, bro.

[Albee Al]

Nah, we ain't with that, man. Cause you my father. Motherfuckers. You been putting a lot of music out for years, man. We've been believing in you, man. I swear to God, bruh. Oh, that man. Trust that nigga Gucci. Oh, man, that he gonna get it. You gotta get it, bro. You know how many I used to be down state arguing? That's what I said, and I said it before. I used to be down state arguing with niggas from Patterson. Patterson, they love Gucci.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep, yep.

[Albee Al]

Fetty Wap that comes from Gucci.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Albee Al]

You get what I'm saying? Fetty Wap that comes from goo. Y' all ain't know that Fetty Wap comes from Gucci. You understand that? Patterson love that, bro. And I was a Jeezy I used to be about to get busy with. Cause they with Gucci, I with Jeezy. Who more hard? Who more thorough? Oh, I'm about to fight in prison over that. These cat. These misled us, man. They did us bad, man. Oh, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, these rappers, man. Trust me. Don't believe these guys.

[Albee Al]

Don't do it, bro. Don't do it, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's easy. See the industry. One thing I love about the game now today, social media, Twitter, the fans is more invested. You can't hide behind a source interview, a vibe interview. Remember back in the day, we did that xxl that source, that vibe. You didn't see or hear from us till we went on 106 and park.

[Albee Al]

Right, right. Bet, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

You didn't know what we was into today. You could do all like, I just seen this at the drive through. He lying. He just was over here at McDonald's. I love that the fans are more invested and can pull this out so you get to see who really real and who not. You know what I'm saying?

[Albee Al]

Exactly.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was too much, bro.

[Albee Al]

Not for real, though. You got it. People got to do their math on this. How these be talking about they from the trenches and all of that. And they did all of this trenchery shit. But like I said, you're not gonna go through this clean.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nope. You gonna get scuffed up.

[Albee Al]

So why a lot of these take so long? These niggas clean? Like that is clean. We ain't been through nothing. You ain't never been to the youth house. Like, what the. Like, when is these niggas is like, come on, bro. Like you like. It's like, come on, bro. Like you gotta read between to stop misleading these kids, man. You feel me? For real, man. Stop misleading these, man. That was a kid you misled. That's why I went to jail for all you chopped up niggas. Ms. Lamb.

[Memphis Bleak]

Niggas said I was mislab, man.

[Albee Al]

I was mislab.

[Memphis Bleak]

Chill. Yeah, stop misleading the youth, man. And that's why we got guys like you that really live it, really been through it to tell these niggas it ain't the path they need to walk, man.

[Albee Al]

These kids who you would stand bleep like, not your.

[Memphis Bleak]

My crew?

[Albee Al]

Yeah, not your crew. Nobody in your crew. Nobody from New York. Who you in the industry that you. When you hold war, y' all was moving around. Who you was like, yo, nah, this nigga really like that in his area. I know you pulled up. Y' all been on. Y' all had wild tours, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, nah, we had mad tours. I ain't gonna front. It's a couple niggas I thought was really like that. Like, I don't like kicking niggas when they down, man. But shit, you asked the question. Mr. Cool was really like that. But I ain't know he was really like this.

[Albee Al]

He fucking yo ain't fucking yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

I had to figure out how to answer that, like, you know what I'm saying? He was like that, but I ain't know he was like this.

[Albee Al]

Hey, yo, nah. Cause my nigga Fif is doing interviews about this we gotta do. We gotta find out what's up with Mr. Kobe bucking the up. Yo,

[Memphis Bleak]

who else? Who else was like that that I thought was like that? It was like, nah, you ain't. Who else let me down, man? Like heartbreak. Who else? Man, I ain't really fuck with too many niggas, but my crew, I could say niggas in my crew let me down and see them going out the way they going out, you know what I mean? Niggas turning into YouTubers for views, trying to air dirty laundry that you don't even know.

[Albee Al]

Shit is crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Niggas laundry ain't even dirty. You just talking about stupid shit, you

[Albee Al]

know, some G shit. I don't respect that because it's like. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you was running with a

[Memphis Bleak]

nigga, everything was cool.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that's another thing I don't like. If you gonna tell a nigga dirt, why wait till the fallout if it was cool when you was down, that mean you was a dirty nigga, too.

[Albee Al]

Exactly. That's like you sitting there, a nigga leave the camp. He was with you for 10 years, and as soon as you leave the camp, man, that nigga Pussy, he soft. Nigga, You. You.

[Memphis Bleak]

You was with the.

[Albee Al]

That's right. When he was pussy and soft.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now you wanna sit there.

[Albee Al]

You ain't say that for 10 years.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Albee Al]

Now, the first the first three months, y' all ain't cool. You said a nigga pussy, ho ass out here.

[Memphis Bleak]

I don't like that, man.

[Albee Al]

I mean, with that, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

As far as the rappers telling, man, I'm. I'm pleased. Listen, stop making gangster music, leading the youth on that. You gonna live this life knowing good and God damn well. Ever since you signed on that dotted line, you ain't live that life, man.

[Albee Al]

For real.

[Memphis Bleak]

Please stop.

[Albee Al]

Stop.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, I made the records back in the day. I was a kid. I was really outside. We was really putting in, got the

[Albee Al]

proof to see that shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause from the projects, I got niggas that went to jail, lost. Like, I wish. Like, that's what I'm telling you. Sitting here. I wish my man, H. Moneybags had the I opportunity.

[Albee Al]

Like, right, right, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

Beat the case, come home and got on the run.

[Albee Al]

He didn't.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, did 12 years.

[Albee Al]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

He came home. I'm sitting here podcasting like, hey, I got a job for you right here. Co host with me. You know what I'm saying? But didn't have. Like, we really took them losses. Everything wasn't all good at Rockefeller. As you see, a lot of telling certain stories is true, certain stories is not. But everybody got paid. Nobody got robbed. Nobody had a bad deal. Notice nobody will never come out and be like, yo, Jay took my money.

[Albee Al]

Right, Right.

[Memphis Bleak]

J robbed me.

[Albee Al]

Nah, you don't never.

[Memphis Bleak]

I ain't get paid. These niggas just blew the bag. And now I'm mad.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, exactly.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, he was supposed to be the accountant and the CEO.

[Albee Al]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's crazy.

[Albee Al]

That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's crazy.

[Albee Al]

That's fucked up. Cause he project nigga himself. Like, nigga's project.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that's the thing. They don't realize that Jay really don't give a fuck about this.

[Albee Al]

And I love that shit. No matter what room walking home let you know where he came from.

[Memphis Bleak]

Straight up, like, think he cared. Like, he one of them super up there that ain't down in tune. He in tune. He don't give a. To respond to these niggas or even give them a sin of a taste.

[Albee Al]

And I feel like you gotta be from the project to really know that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, man.

[Albee Al]

So niggas be sitting there, put, voicing their pen. You gotta really know project niggas, man. All project niggas is the same.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Albee Al]

They got so many similarities, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Albee Al]

Any project. I met niggas from Magnolia. Nevermind.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I love New Orleans.

[Albee Al]

I love New Orleans. I gotta show out there, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

And know In Chicago, that's 12 of my favorite cities, man. Them show love.

[Albee Al]

Hell yeah, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up. Yo, so like I said, man, I'll be out of truth, holding it down. New Jersey, New York, the movement. You know what it is, man. When it come to that real, this is who you tap into. It ain't no chatty patty over here. It ain't no telling. We ain't even getting in trouble to tell no more.

[Albee Al]

Yeah, I like that.

[Memphis Bleak]

I like that they getting in trouble. It's nothing to tell. All we gonna tell you is get money and stay solid. My G. It's rock solid. Appreciate you.

[Albee Al]

Appreciate you having bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

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