Beanie Sigel | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

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ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek: Beanie Sigel

Episode Date: December 2, 2025
Podcast: ROC Solid
Host: Memphis Bleek
Guest: Beanie Sigel

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Episode Overview

This episode of ROC Solid delivers a raw, in-depth reunion between Memphis Bleek—a Roc-A-Fella original—and Beanie Sigel, one of Philadelphia’s most influential MCs. The conversation blends legendary Roc-A-Fella lore, untold stories from the golden era, personal regrets, brotherhood, beefs, resilience, prison stints, business moves, and the unbreakable bonds that define hip-hop’s realest families. Listeners are brought behind the curtain to hear the truths, conflicts, and love that shaped the ROC’s golden years.

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Key Themes & Topics

1. Clearing the Air & The Nature of Brotherhood

• Addressing Misunderstandings (04:12–05:13)
  • Bleek and Sigel immediately confront rumors about past interview comments and social media drama, making clear their relationship is unshakeable despite Internet spin.
    • Quote:
      “When you see people sitting at this desk, it means two things. One, they my brother. Two, they solid.”
      – Memphis Bleek (03:24)
  • Sigel clarifies his comments about recording sessions (“you, me, him, and her”), dismissing any narrative of dissension.
• Origins of Their Relationship (06:09–08:47)
  • They reminisce about meeting in the studio, their first sessions, and mutual respect forged through competitive lyricism.

2. Roc-A-Fella Studio Stories & Tour Antics

• Early Studio Battles (07:29–09:47)
  • Detailed memories of recording joints like “Crew Love” and “Thousand Bars.”
  • Bleek jokes about feeling out-shined:
    “I used to go home and be hating on you... this nigga too nice!” (09:37)
• Tour Gambling & Hustles (24:25–27:02)
  • Tales of relentless dice games, gambling, and hustling backstage passes for extra cash.
• Dice Rolling in Marcy Projects (10:30–11:19)
  • Sigel tells of refusing to leave Marcy until he literally rolled a 456 for authenticity in his lyrics.

3. Beanie’s Path to the Roc & Bringing Philly with Him

• Accidental Entry into Rap Game (12:20–13:18)
  • Sigel wasn’t planning on becoming a rapper:
    “I ain’t had no demo. I wasn’t trying to be a rapper.” – Beanie Sigel (12:20)
• The Legendary Battle for a Deal (13:18–18:33)
  • Humorous and tense tale of how a dogfight and a last-minute meeting in NYC led to him rapping for Jay-Z and, ultimately, signing to Roc-A-Fella.
  • The importance of staying true to street codes and chance encounters, not strategic career moves.
• Lifting Up Philly and Mentoring State Property (32:23–36:53)
  • Sigel always intended to carry Philly artists with him:
    “I didn’t even ink my contract yet. I bought the Figures up there... I used to want to be a Figure.” (32:23)
  • The moment he met Freeway in a Philly battle.

4. Tour Life, Industry Realities, and Staying Grounded

• Tour Stories (38:02–48:19)
  • Bringing guns on the road, selling fake backstage passes, switching luxury cars, and surviving chaotic cross-country tours.
    • Quote:
      “Yo, we left many guns on the road... the bus company was like, we never giving the bus to Roc-A-Fella again.” – Memphis Bleek (42:51)
• Staying Grounded (37:17–37:33)
  • Beans describes how despite fame, he remained “regular,” showing up at Walmart or Target like anyone else.

5. Regrets, Prison, and Lessons Learned

• Prison Stints & Hindsight (53:15–55:43)
  • Beans reflects on his short window as “Beanie Sigel” before catching cases:
    “I was only Beanie Siegel on the streets for probably two and a half years.” (54:19)
  • Discusses not realizing he had a “career” until it was already gone.
• The Rockefeller Breakup, Loyalty, and Family Business (57:30–68:49)
  • Tackles the infamous moment when Jay-Z didn’t vouch for his release, and the bigger picture of loyalty and responsibility.
    • Quote:
      “I’d have got my boy home... I don’t know how he felt, because we never had that conversation yet.” – Beanie Sigel (57:58)
  • Recognition of personal wrongs and emotional decisions:
    • “I wore my emotions on my sleeve, talked about family business to the public... That eat me up.” (107:58)

6. State Property, Movies, and Cult Classics

• Birth of State Property Movie (77:32–78:58)
  • The story’s authentic roots in Philly street history and the decision to change names due to real-life consequences.
  • Most lines and scenes were improvised to fit real culture.
• Cultural Impact of State Property & Paper Soldiers (78:58–79:26)
  • Beans and Bleek discuss how fans often recognize their movie roles more than their music.

7. Philly’s Legacy, Modern Hip-Hop, and Giving Back

• Meek Mill & The New Generation (102:36–103:06)
  • Beans praises Meek as a product of State Property’s influence but stresses the need for unity in the city:
    “If all the artists in the city come together at some point, then Philly is unstoppable.” – Beanie Sigel (102:36)
• On Regrets and Family Ties (106:57–108:55)
  • While not regretful about any specific action, Beans is pained by any public exposure of private, family matters.
  • Both hosts stress handling disagreements in person, not online:
    • “Before I turn that [camera] on, I get on 95 and drive to Philly before I do that.” – Memphis Bleek (108:55)

8. Resilience, Trauma, and the Next Chapter

• Overcoming the Loss of His Voice (91:40–93:14)
  • Beans speaks about losing his voice (after being shot), the struggle to adapt, and finding new creative energy:
    • “My whole… The way I record is different... But I figured it out.” – Beanie Sigel (92:01–92:24)
• Entrepreneurship & Legacy Building (88:23–89:15)
  • Beans is co-owner of Santucci’s Original Square Pizza with his family and sees this as a foundation for lasting legacy.
    • “We walk through our own kitchen... I just want my slice of the pie. Even if it’s square.” – Beanie Sigel (89:15, 89:18)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I was trying to go to a dog fight... Do I bet on the dog or do I go to New York? I said, fuck it.”
  – Beanie Sigel (13:18–14:19)
• “He wasn’t trying to be a rapper... I just knew how to rap.”
  – Beanie Sigel (12:20)
• “Checking in... That gives you protection. Tapping in, that’s when they give you the pistol.”
  – Beanie Sigel & Memphis Bleek (42:15–42:35)
• “You taught me how to count bars. And you know what else? How to play ceelo.”
  – Beanie Sigel (25:18)
• On Philly's new talent:
  “Too many big I’s and little U’s in Philadelphia right now... If all the artists come together, Philly’s unstoppable.”
  – Beanie Sigel (101:20–102:36)
• "You don't reward fish for swimming."
  – Beanie Sigel (96:14)
• “Flowers? I can’t eat flowers. When people say ‘your flowers...’ I want the check.”
  – Beanie Sigel (122:22)

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Timeline of Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |--------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 03:24–06:09 | Addressing beef, Roc-A-Fella brotherhood | | 06:09–10:30 | First studio memories, writing sessions, dice games | | 12:20–18:33 | How Beans joined the Roc, Philly battles | | 22:41–27:02 | Hard Knock Life tour, Per Diem, dice, hustles | | 32:23–37:17 | Mentoring Philly, assembling State Property | | 53:15–55:43 | Prison, regrets, and life perspectives | | 57:30–68:49 | Jay-Z, legal issues, and family/business conflicts | | 77:32–79:29 | State Property movie, cult classic status | | 88:23–93:14 | Entrepreneurship, food business, legacy | | 91:40–93:52 | Losing his voice, resilience, future in AI/music | |107:58–109:05 | Regret over airing family business |

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Memorable Interactions

• The “Leg-Stabbing” Roc-A-Fella Pledge (30:26)
  • Bleek recalls Beans jokingly initiating a superfan by actually stabbing him in the leg in a limo.
• Philly Hustling on the Road (26:24)
  • Selling passes and making extra money as a rite of tour life survival.
• Family, Fights & Forgiveness (109:19)
  • Open mention of past fistfights, brotherly falling-outs, and always making up.

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Closing Reflections

The episode closes with appearances by Freeway, lighter reminiscing, and a mutual affirmation of brotherhood, hustle, and respect. Beans reflects on his place in Philly’s lineage and the power of leaving a true legacy, not flowers or accolades:

“I can plant my own flowers.” – Beanie Sigel (123:13)

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Listen to This If...

You want an unfiltered look at Roc-A-Fella’s inner workings, or if you respect hip-hop’s storytelling traditions, competitive camaraderie, real-life stakes, and the complexities of brotherhood and business.

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ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek — Where the game always gets broken down, 100% ROC solid.

Transcript

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Beanie Sigel]

Didn't get out much.

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[Beanie Sigel]

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[Memphis Bleak]

What up, y'?

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[Memphis Bleak]

This your main man, Memphis Bleak, right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. Big whipping. Yeah, Memphis, I'm back at it. Notice the difference. Just more grown. Prezzy. No stone.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, y', all.

[Memphis Bleak]

You already know what it is. Yours truly back with another one. Exclusive Rock Solid podcast. Like I told you, when you see people sitting at this desk, it means two things. One, they my brother. Two, they solid. And this man right here to the left of me, man, I don't even know, bro. Like brothers fucking cousins. We, we, we, we, we enemies.

[Beanie Sigel]

We brothers.

[Memphis Bleak]

We cousins. We, we family. That's all that matters. And I. I wouldn't be who I am today if we never signed you to Rockefeller.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's right. Appreciate it.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? Welcome Beanie Seagull to the building. You know what I'm saying? You know what it is? Rock solid, my brother. How you been, man?

[Beanie Sigel]

Great, man, great.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo.

[Beanie Sigel]

Complaints before we kick it off.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, I ain't seen you since the art of dialogue about you. Like, see, you know, I'm a good. And I love my brothers, so I know how the Internet spins shit. They chop shit up and make it seem like it ain't what it is. And this is that. So when I spoke to you and you said, yo, Bleak, you.

[Beanie Sigel]

Come on, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

You my brother. You know I would never go at your neck like that, bro. I was kind of relieved. Cause I thought, damn, why would seek shoot at me?

[Beanie Sigel]

So to clear that up. Cause we ain't get a chance. Clear that up. For one. I understand how you felt. Because I didn't see the interview that Dane did. I never saw that until afterwards. I'm like, yo, why bleed mad? And then when I. I said, oh, that's.

[Memphis Bleak]

You was talking about the coming of age. But, you know, they going to put it to, like, it was everything. And I'm like. I'm like, it's.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I'm. I'mma clear that up, cuz. Not just the coming of age. It was you, me, him, and her. What they said, who I was referring to. So off camera, we was talking about, you know, writing versus. And I'm like, no, I felt as though on you, me, him, and her. You got out on me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, but that's crazy. You don't remember that session, my G. No. Yo, listen. You don't remember you and Jay? Did y' all verse the night before? Yeah, I came to the studio the next day.

[Beanie Sigel]

I wasn't there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, you was. Remember y' all play. Cause y' all was working on that. Is it. Was it Daddy's Home or what? Is it the. The slow song that T.T.

[Beanie Sigel]

Did? Oh, Daddy, where you been?

[Memphis Bleak]

Daddy, where you been? Y' all was working on that, and y' all played you, me, him, and her for me. Remember, every record wasn't for everybody.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You don't remember me saying, yo, how y' all gonna give me a record after y' all murdered it? I gotta take this record home. I can't write this right now. You don't remember that? And I got word I left y' all in the stool.

[Beanie Sigel]

Well, you know, I was.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I came back.

[Beanie Sigel]

I was indulging in.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I know in your mind you like, how. But, bro, it's all cause of you. You, bro. Listen, let's go back. Let's rewind. When I first met you. Yeah, where we was at Right Track Studio. Nah, what studio?

[Beanie Sigel]

We were on that Right Track.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was one of.

[Beanie Sigel]

The first day I met you, it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was one of them spots in the.

[Beanie Sigel]

City we was at.

[Memphis Bleak]

Because that's when. Rest in peace. Real rolling, you know, I mean, Black Friday. That's when they brought you up to the store. Studio.

[Beanie Sigel]

That was the studio with Pac Hip Factory. No, no, Quad. Quad Studio.

[Memphis Bleak]

Quad Studio.

[Beanie Sigel]

You and Banger King.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, me and Bi, we came on the dirt bike. I never forget that. Cause you was like, yo, you rode up here on the Doctor, And I'm like, yeah, you was like. You rode that shit over the bridge. I'm like, you like, yo, you wild.

[Beanie Sigel]

You wilding crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

I never forget that day.

[Beanie Sigel]

The first day we met, we did cool love.

[Memphis Bleak]

Well, wait, that's what I'm about to get to.

[Beanie Sigel]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Chill.

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me get there. Chill. Because we met, you spit. Sadiq was like, yo, ain't nobody in the studio could. With my man. I put anything on him. And you started spitting. And I'm like, all right, cool. Whatever. Son's super nice, but whatever. And Jay was like, yo, I got this record. Y' all should do a record together. And he had the hook on it. Yo, it's cruel love. Remember, we did cruel love. This is my thing. If you thought Jay helped me for you, you, me, him and her I needed help for that nigga. Cause what the fuck you came in that nigga. Listen, no, hold on.

[Beanie Sigel]

Before we did cool off. Yeah. We did a thousand bars first.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

We did a thousand bars first. I didn't.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, now you violated on that, too. Why you. You told me, put a verse on that. Cause you smoked it. Then you was like, yo, m. Come on, put a verse on it. I'm like, yeah, all right. After you don't went like 62 on there murdering.

[Beanie Sigel]

But I ain't not account bars. Nope.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, dope never.

[Beanie Sigel]

I ain't out of camp. Yo, Jay had this. I remember Jay trimming with the cool love. True love. He had to trim it down. Cause he was like, nah, that's too many bars. I'm like, just go. I don't know. I do that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. You know. Yo, you probably don't remember this. You know who taught you how to. Who you first asked. Yo, how you count the bars and break it down?

[Beanie Sigel]

You and Ja and Ja rule.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. We was on the hard knock, thinking like, yo, how y' all be breaking down the bars and know where you at like that. Word up. My crew love thousand bars. Even the joint. Old foxy album. Yeah, but I used to always them. I'm just telling you, them records. I used to feel like, what the fuck is this nigga eating? The fuck is this nigga smoking? I sell drugs. I carry guns. Like, my shit ain't coming out like that. I gotta go get the shootout or something. Like, what happened?

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, oh, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I'm telling you, it's all your fault on me. Cause I used to go home and be hating on you like this, too. Nice. Who the fuck this think he is? This tried to come on my turf.

[Beanie Sigel]

It.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, it wasn't to who won what, bro? Yeah, that's when I got my confidence.

[Beanie Sigel]

When I heard that, when I knew. I'm like, when I heard that, just blaze. Yeah, I heard that beat. I said, no, man. Bleak Killer's joint. I remember my boy. I got something for us.

[Memphis Bleak]

You like, yo, we gotta go line for line. I'm like, all right. That's when I felt. That's the first record we did that. I felt like, all right, cool. I'm on some level now. He ain't just embarrassing. And they go on the record.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, but you smoke me on that, too.

[Beanie Sigel]

N stop.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. 4, 5, 6, and 8. Yellow boat, orange boat, Jackson, New York. Making it like, come on, cuz, chill out.

[Beanie Sigel]

Hold on. You remember this I. I had to make that rap real.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Yo, yo, chill. I forgot about that. Yeah, we all flushing out. This nigga would not leave the projects until he wrote four, five, six.

[Beanie Sigel]

No bullshit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, no bullshit. And he wasn't even gambling against nobody. Like, nah, Em, no, my raps is real. We not leaving to the dice at 456.

[Beanie Sigel]

Took me to Marcy projects. We got some dice. I mean, we was out there for, like, probably two hours. Yup.

[Memphis Bleak]

Wow.

[Beanie Sigel]

I could not roll a four, five, six.

[Memphis Bleak]

N A, like, nah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Did not lead into our roll.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, yo, just put this shit on. 4, 5, 6, take. No, like, nah, I gotta roll it, Em. It gotta be real.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that's crazy. Like, I took you tomorrow. I remember the first time you took me to South Philly.

[Beanie Sigel]

Oh, no.

[Memphis Bleak]

First time you take me to South Philly, Allegedly. No, no, no, no. This is the first time I come to South Philly. The nigga like, nah, real. Out here, we can't just be moving around like this. I need one, and you need one. And you gave me. Listen, nigga gave me a gun. You know how when you a project nigga, a hood nigga. I don't care where you from, you.

[Beanie Sigel]

Remember what gun I gave you.

[Memphis Bleak]

Certain guns, you just know. Wait, I ain't never seen one of these. This is nice. I need one of these back home, my nigga. You gave me a baby wap. Yeah, a baby wap with the extended. Yeah, with the extended clip. I had this shit in my jacket. Like, oh, I'm really in these Philly streets now.

[Beanie Sigel]

It was going down at that time.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, bro. What was it like for you coming out of Philly, signing to Rockefeller, though? What was your mindset back then?

[Beanie Sigel]

Oh, man, it was, it was. It was different. I couldn't believe it. Like, I ain't. Because I didn't look to be a rapper. Like, I ain't had no demo. I wasn't trying to be a rapper. You know, I knew how to rap. Shout out to rest in peace to my man Ryeesi. He. He. He really showed me how to, like, stay on song subject. Yeah. But then he was trying to teach me how to, you know. No, this is a bar. You gotta count it like this. Yeah. And I wasn't trying. I'm. I'm just gonna write.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

I have a way to come out. It come out like. But it's crazy because I was trying and I. And I said this story a thousand times. I was going to try and Go to a dog fight. I was trying to go like, big shit. Nah, I was. My man Murder Meal had a dog named Mike.

[Memphis Bleak]

Shout out Murder Mill.

[Beanie Sigel]

Shout out to Murder Meal. He had a dog named Mikey. Mikey was a grand champ. Killing everything. So allegedly, I had just got. I had just got some work from somebody, and I just got done. I had all the money in my pocket, and I'm like, damn. Murder Mill calling was like, yo, I want. You wanna go battle these boys? They want to battle us. 10 grand. I'm like, all right, bet. So we go to battle. These guys so happened to be. It was Philly's most wanted. Philly's most wanted. So we went to the crib to battle him. Battle them. They managers wasn't there, so we ain't battle for the money. We wound up rapping, battling. And me shout out to Bubonic.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, remember Bubonic. World up. Shout out Bubonic.

[Beanie Sigel]

Word, man. After it was done, we exchanged numbers. And so Myrtle was like, no, we gonna battle for some money. So we battle for ten grand. I pull out my money. He pull out his money. Bubonic kicked murder on us. The they ain't had the money, but he went upstairs and came back downstairs with five contracts from different labels. One of them was for like, a million dollars. One of them was like, 500. He was like, that ain't no money. Drop the contracts on the table. It was like, damn, you wanted to.

[Memphis Bleak]

Battle for the contract?

[Beanie Sigel]

No, he just was showing us, like, y' all talking about 10 grand. This about to get this real couple million right hand contracts. So we wind up battling. I ain't gonna call the battle. We wind up rapping. At the end of the day, we exchanged numbers. He pulled me to the side, was like, yo, nice. He was like, yo, my manager's in Cancun. They be back in a couple days. We got a meeting with Rockefeller Records. I want you to come with him. So I'm like, all right, bet. So they managers came back. I got the phone call. I went up to their crib where they was at, and he was like, yo, this is why I was telling you all about Eat Nice. So we was rapping. All right, we started rapping. They went crazy. I was like, yo, you want to come in New York with us in a couple days? We got a meeting. We want to take you with us. But I'm like, all right, bet. I'mma go. But then the dog fight was coming, so Mikey had to fight that day. And I'm like, damn, do I Pay my tab. Or do I bet on Mikey or do I go to New York? I said that I'm out. No, I was ducking New York. Yo, I'm gonna put this. Yeah, you was. Yo, I was trying to duck New York. I had 15 grand. I knew I was going to double that up. I knew ain't nobody beating Mikey. So I'm in the crib, they calling me. They're like, yo, you ready? I'm like, yeah, I'm ready. I'm speeding to get dressed. I'm about to be out. I turned. Turned the phone off so they can't call me. I'm hard ass. And I get out the curb. I lived in an apartment building. As soon as I get downstairs in the Ford, it's real rolling. The pickup truck, he waiting for me outside.

[Memphis Bleak]

What's up, Scrap?

[Beanie Sigel]

So I had to go.

[Memphis Bleak]

He like, dang, what's up, Scrap?

[Beanie Sigel]

Dan Lou just called you five times. You ready? Like, yeah, I'm ready. Come on, we out. In my mind, I'm like like, damn, that's 15 grand. At that time, I'm like, yeah, that's serious paper. So I get car. I'm dressed for the dog fight and everything. I got a dog, Tim's. Cause I know his. It's gonna get dirty real. Roller get in the truck. Roller was like, no, we gonna make it stop first. Luke, we ain't going up there like that. I gotta get you some feet.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that's just how Roller talk too. Nah, we ain't moving like that.

[Beanie Sigel]

We can't go up like that. I gotta get you some feet. So he wound up going to leaves.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, shit.

[Beanie Sigel]

Grab some sneaks. We took that trip. Whole ride, I'm salty calling they fire. By the time we hit the tunnel, it's over. Mikey won. Piss my damn. That's why I go. Did it go to the meeting? Go up there? I wasn't supposed to rap. I just.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was just going.

[Beanie Sigel]

Just going.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, cuz Bubonic and them rhyme.

[Beanie Sigel]

Bic didn't go that day. He ain't show up. It was just Ms. Mr. And Nas. So they battled the boss. It was over. I'm sitting in the back, I'm smoking away, pissed off, cuz I missed out.

[Memphis Bleak]

On the dog fight.

[Beanie Sigel]

Then one of the guys they was rapping with, he said some slick. Like, I guess they knew we was coming. So he said some slick Philly about some cheesesteak. So Jay was doing it's all good a week ago with too short. So I'm sitting in the back so Jay was like, that's it. Ain't nobody else rapping. I was like, it. I rap. I rap after I rap. Ain't nobody rap no more. And Jay was like, that's it. I looked. Ain't nobody rapping. I went in again. Then he asked him again. He was like, it's over. But Jay had the face. He was sitting back. And I'm like, I know I'm killing this shit. Like, he ain't. I'm like, man, I ain't rapping no more. So Jay was like, that's it. So I meant Juan was there. So why I started cursing out the boys? That was from New York. He was like, y' all letting these come up here. Y' all ain't gonna rap. So I was like, yo, put that beat on. Y' all just was rapping, too. Back then. It was the real of real. Yeah. So he put that joint on, and I racked it to that stop. Sat back, rolled my L. Then Jay got up. He say nothing to me. They may say nothing. They all went in the hallway or wherever they went. And Sadiq Ruler and Stevie G. Damn.

[Memphis Bleak]

I remember Stevie G. Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

So when they came back, I'm pissed. Cause I'm like, I know I'm smoking this. But Jay had the poker face on. So I'm like, man, I don't give a. Who am I meeting anyway? So as we leaving, shaking everybody in. I remember shaking J hand. He ain't let my hand go. It's like, I'm gonna be hollering at you, playboy. It's like, all right. Then we went in the hallway, and we got on the elevator. Everybody went crazy. Yo, they don't want you to leap. I got to go. It was like, no, we gonna get a hotel room. Jay wants you to stay. I just gave Paco 1500 packs.

[Memphis Bleak]

Shout out, Paco, my.

[Beanie Sigel]

This Friday. And I remember it was a Friday. I just lost out on 15 grand on a dog fight. I just gave Paco 1500 pack. He owe me a stack. I got to go.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm not staying up here. They begging me to stay to New York. Like, bro, take me to the train. I'm out. We left two days later. It was like, we gotta go back to New York. That's right. Went back up. Rap and jam again at the office. Yeah, it was on from there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, bro, everything just happened so fast. Because I felt like you came up. You rap like you said you came back, then you were signed. And then we went on. We did crew Love Thousand bars for Clue. And then we went on the Hard Knock Life tour.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, crew Love Thousand bars.

[Memphis Bleak]

The foxy came after we was on tour. I think we was on Hard Knock Life already. And we came home. And you did that. Cause remember, I wasn't supposed to be on the record. And you was like, yo, now we need to put bleak on this record.

[Beanie Sigel]

Cause remember, I think that was before we left, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

You think so?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause I remember leaving. You know my timeline, bro.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm. I'm. Yeah, I think that was before. Yeah, yeah, I think that was before. Because that's what I remember. Jay was like, yo, you gotta stop rapping too long. That's too long. I'm like, man, I don't know how to do that, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

But my.

[Beanie Sigel]

You, you.

[Memphis Bleak]

I feel like you pioneered and changed the game not only for Philadelphia, but for new artists. Because think about this, right? I always. This is my personal opinion. I never said nothing to you or talk. My. Think about it. Everybody on tour on the Hard Knock Life.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Ja Rule, he waiting to come out. Can I get her? He take his shirt off. They going crazy. Yeah, I'm waiting to come out. It's all right. They know Jay. They barely know me, but I get a little bit of love. And you was coming down. No song, no beat. Acapella and destroying. Like, my. How did that feel? Just knowing. Did you know in your mind, like, man, these. I'm gonna shut this down every night.

[Beanie Sigel]

After the spy, the second show, second to third show, the first joint, scared to death. Push me to 30, 000 people in arena.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Beanie Sigel]

Got this new artist, Benny. He come out, come out acapella. And they went crazy every night, bro. And I remember the third. The second time, second show, I did it. Then I wanted to switch it up. Jay was like, nah, do the same joint. And I did it. But the third night, when I was coming out, when Mamie was like, oh, all right. I look and I seen Red man meth. And I seen X standing on the side. And it was like, yo, these waiting to see me do this acapella. That's right. I'm like, oh, it's on that one. Hell yeah. Yeah. I was like, he was on for me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, you got one. My like, you came to Rockefeller. My like. Remember? I was the first artist. It was me. Source Jazzo. Then the Rangers rough. No, the Rangers wasn't. Wasn't there yet. It was Diamonds in the Rough and rap.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And then all of a sudden, everybody just started dropping, dropping Nobody was around no more. Then here comes Seagull. First it was me. I was that. It's like being in high school. You that on campus. Then a new fly come through. All the bitches looking at him now like, yo, who this think he is? In my camp, on my set, like, that's how it was for me. And then, my nigga, when I heard you, I was like, yeah, I gotta go to the gym and work out. I can't just fight this nigga. This nigga's got last dragon skills over here. I can't just fight these niggas.

[Beanie Sigel]

Shit, but you taught me how to count bars.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, like, yo, and you know what else I taught you? How to play ceiling. You ain't really know how to play ceelo. Yo, that money was rotating in the back of that bus. Every other day, another nigga was rich. Like, think about it. Every other day, somebody else was rich. It'll be one day. Beans got all the money. Yeah, I won 20 grand last night. Tomorrow Ja won all that shit back.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I definitely.

[Memphis Bleak]

The next day, I got it. Yo, that money was rotating pockets on every day. But, yo, bro, you know on that tour, I didn't understand the Lil Kim line until the Hard Knock Life tour. Niggas can't eat without per diem. Remember we was lining up for that per diem. Yeah, yo, it's per diem day. Niggas like this with my name on that mix. Straight up. Bring that envelope.

[Beanie Sigel]

What was we getting?

[Memphis Bleak]

We was getting like almost like 500.

[Beanie Sigel]

About the sand or something.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, we was getting like 500.

[Beanie Sigel]

Shit, I came off that tour with like 60,000.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, word up.

[Beanie Sigel]

All on dice.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, and something else. Yo, you was killing the dice. I ain't gonna front. Cause you and Jay and all y' all used to gamble too.

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, that was. He came up, he was burning me. So look, cuz A, I'mma get you. So we had to remember every day we had the laminates, but they was changing sell the laminates. So I used to go collect everybody joint. So before the joint, we do sound check. We wasn't going back to the hotel at the sound check, me and he was outside selling backstage laminates.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill, y'.

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Beanie Sigel]

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[Beanie Sigel]

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[Beanie Sigel]

O.Com I ran into a nigga. Years later I do a show So a nigga came up to me, was like, yo, what's up now? I'm out now. He was like, you don't remember me? He's like, nah, what's up? He's like, you don't remember? On Hard Knock Life tour, you sold me them fake, baby. Yo, Chill said you showed me them fake backstage passes.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm a reminder.

[Beanie Sigel]

He's like, I rock with you. I said, man, who you with? It's like me and three of my homies. Come on, y' all getting in with me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I'm gonna remind you of something you probably forgot. You know, we got a Rockefeller down with us running around that you initiated back in the days. You remember in the limo, you stand, you told him. He was like, yo, I do anything to be down. I'm not gonna say what city. Cause nigga might come looking for us. But he was like, yo, I do anything to be down with Rockefeller. And you was like, word, anything. You was like, let me stab you in your leg there. You don't remember? I said, limo.

[Beanie Sigel]

Oh, shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

And the nigga was like, yeah. B was like.

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't remember. I don't remember anything. I remember a lot. It was a lot of shit. I don't remember that one. That was wild.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you was on some shit, my nigga. You was on some shit. When you came around, it definitely took them getting used to. I'm like, this nigga definitely stabbed the nigga. Nigga, every. Every time we used to go to. I can't even say the city. Every time we used to pop up in this city, homie used to be there. Like, yo, I'm down.

[Beanie Sigel]

What he say? Remember you stabbed me?

[Memphis Bleak]

To this day, I see homie, bro, you lying. To this day, he Rockefeller for life. Rock solid way, nigga.

[Beanie Sigel]

My bad guys. Yo, they say I'm the first Y. N.

[Memphis Bleak]

You was on some shit back then, but, like, being like it was a lot of artists that came out of now. I ain't gonna say a lot of artists. Yeah, you was like one of the main artists to come out of Philly to really put Philadelphia on the map. Like, yeah, you. It was at a point where you had damn near everybody was under you. I met Philly's most wanted through you. Yeah, I met Dutch and Spade through you. Yeah, I met the whole state prop through you. Like, everybody was under you at one point. Was that your mindset? Like, yo, I' ma put Philly on, and I'm a Suge Knight. Like, not even suge knight. Dr. Dre this. That's a better analogy.

[Beanie Sigel]

I mean, that was. That was. That was the mindset from the rip. Like, I didn't even ink my contract yet. I bought the figures up there free, everybody. Yeah, I used to want to be a figure.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill. You wanted to be major. What? Yo, chill. I didn't know that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Not before I even met Jay, met y'. All. I remember we had a detail shot 12 for 20th and warden. And the figures used to come down. They was the nicest in the city to me back then. They was on. You couldn't. They were signed. They had a deal in my eyes. Yeah. Like they had a mixtape floating. And if you was in the city and you listened to rap and you was figures, was it?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, they was the.

[Beanie Sigel]

So when I met them and I rap with them, like I was on. Yeah, they used to come down.

[Memphis Bleak]

Know that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I used to want to be a figure. Damn.

[Memphis Bleak]

I ain't know. That's crazy. See everybody learning some today. I ain't know that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I used to want to be.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

And it's so crazy because all this was happening within, like, I'mma say, a two month span, like meeting the figures, rapping for them. Then I'm coming down then. My young and me used to mason camp, performed at this spot we had called Bobby Dances. So allegedly we had what they call bandos. We had like five bandos. So all the bros, they would go out on these trips. I would never go. Yeah. Because I get to utilize all the bandals to the wheel. So I taught my younger not to go. We wound up going to dances. They had a rap battle. So whatever the prize is, I forget what the prize money was, but we had that on us. I think me and me, we had crazy money on us. So I'm like, whoever win out the battle, I want to battle them for the prize. But I think the prize money was like 5. Anywhere between 5, 10,000. Whoever won. So they picked the winner. We put out the money. I want to battle whoever went. I said, I battle you for that. So I wind up getting on stage. Battle. It went for me. Battle one person that like five, six, damn.

[Memphis Bleak]

They ain't want to get that bread up.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I'm bad on them. So then as I see another hat all low, he's snapping. I'm like, all right, you can get it too. Pull him on the stage. So I'm thinking I'm about to go at it with him. He stood right next to me. He started going at them. That was Freeway.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's how I met Free. No way. So I'm battling these five. I pulled Free. I ain't. I ain't even know him.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm thinking he trying to get at me. Yeah, pull him on stage. That stood next to me, started killing them.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Beanie Sigel]

And that was Freeway.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn, that's dope.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm like, yo, if ever I get on, yo, we gonna exchange numbers. I'm gonna get with you. And within two weeks time, that's when I met Most Wanted, went up to New York, Rockefeller came back, called Free. He pulled up on the block. I'm like, yo, what's going. They talking about they gonna sign me. You gotta come up with me. And that's how I met Free. And that's how Free guy came up to the rock, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's crazy. I ain't know that, man. I always. When I interview, when I. Cause, you know, of course, I had gunner up here. I had no clue. Clue that all of y' all were from different hoods.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah. If you look at state property, that's the entire city of Philadelphia. Yeah, I'm from South Philly, Free. From north, you got PDO and Sparky, Badlands.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, no, from west.

[Beanie Sigel]

West Philly. Yeah. And you got Chris and Eve. Nice town, but that's uptown. Yeah, that's the city.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's crazy. That's dope, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's the city.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, when they speak, you can't talk of Philly hip hop without mentioning Beanie Siegel and state property. Yeah, like, I know. Like, how does that make you feel to know? Like, no matter what, man, like, you made history. You put on for the city, and it's cemented. Like, it's just like the bell, my nigga. You crack the city like the bell, my nigga. Like, that gotta make you feel like I did my job.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nigga, it is what it is, man. I don't. Yo, they tell me every day, I don't know who I am. I'm regular. Anybody who know me, you could. You liable to see me in Walmart tomorrow. Target. Yeah. Shot right.

[Memphis Bleak]

But that's. That's how we grew up in our town. Member, bro? Remember on the Hard Knock, we ain't know no out of town to call.

[Beanie Sigel]

And get no weed.

[Memphis Bleak]

Remember how we used to go get the weed?

[Beanie Sigel]

We used to go for it.

[Memphis Bleak]

We used to go to the mall and look for a. Who look like us. Yeah, and run down, fam. What up, what up, yo, what up? You got that, like, yeah, we are staying now.

[Beanie Sigel]

Still a Turtle top Take me to the nearest project, yo Shout out to my shot town Yo, I've been through to this day on the road with.

[Memphis Bleak]

You, bro, and a lot of you probably don't remember. Yeah, listen, I'mma tell you two things.

[Beanie Sigel]

I used to drink that.

[Memphis Bleak]

So let's see if you remember these two incidents, Right? You had a show in Boston one time. You like, yo, m. I got this show in Boston. What you doing? I'm like, I ain't doing. You like, yo, pull up out this way.

[Beanie Sigel]

Who won?

[Memphis Bleak]

What just came out. Yeah, like him. You gotta pop out. Gotta pop out with me. I'm like, all right, I'm pull up. I' pull up. There's no problem. Just let me know the time.

[Beanie Sigel]

Whatever.

[Memphis Bleak]

I meet you at the show. You like, yo, bleed. Don't come out into the intro or who want what. Come on. I don't want people to know you here.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, all right, cool. My. Who won what drop. I come out, the crowd went so crazy. You remember? They rushed the stage.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And my man pull out the. The gun. Beans on the front of the stage like this, yo, what's up? And these trying to rush us. I'm like, yo, see, chill. They love us. You want to kill the fans. My like, yo, I don't remember that. Yo. I'm looking at this like, yo, chill. Then another incident. I think we was in Connecticut because we was up north somewhere. It was your birthday. We was up north somewhere.

[Beanie Sigel]

And the girl.

[Memphis Bleak]

I never forget this. Like, I never forget my kid's name. Shorty. Name was Bully. She had the bullets tattooed on her neck.

[Beanie Sigel]

He was doing a meet and greet.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep. And she like, yo, what you talking about? I'm a Beanie Siegel fan. It's your birthday. I love.

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't think nobody.

[Memphis Bleak]

I bought you a gift. So you know me. We all sitting inside the autographs. I'm over here, like, true story. But this boy, I bought you a gift. What she bought him. Let me see. She get this. A box.

[Beanie Sigel]

Brand new 380.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's a brand new 380. And I'm looking at this like, you ain't like me. Like you don't like me, too.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, that's. That was the illness that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, word up, bro.

[Beanie Sigel]

We have a meet and greet. She bought me a gun.

[Memphis Bleak]

Brand new.

[Beanie Sigel]

Brand new box. And the box was like this for you. I'm looking.

[Memphis Bleak]

I hope I said, oh, the straight up.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, like that. Shout out to Bullet.

[Memphis Bleak]

You remember. I'm gonna tell you another incident. You remember the time we was in LA and Suge tried to run down on, remember, we was in front of the club like, yo, Sug, coming through. And he pulled up with all the.

[Beanie Sigel]

And again, my man right here used.

[Memphis Bleak]

To have all the slammers all the time. And you would never know. You just be like, whatever. We with the whatever. And Beans were like, nah, m. Tell them pull up. He's in front of the club in la. Like, sug say, coming through, he want highlight. So Mad was leaving, remember?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

He's like, man, that. Tell that Pull up. We here. Don't matter. Pull up. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm like, bingz, it's only us. What we gonna do? That nigga like, nah, Em, I got that joint pulled out. The same baby Wap from Philly in LA.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I wasn't there. But listen, this post 9 11. Yeah. Remember we used to break the joints down.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was about to get to that. Chill. I was about to get to that. Cause that was another thing. We on tour, right? I'm a project, baby, to the death. We get to the airport, we got a gun. We throwing the gun away. We buy another one in the next state. I tell one of my man's, get on the highway, dry that up. Not my man. My man, like, what? Give me the gun. I'm gonna break it apart. MacGyver.

[Beanie Sigel]

Shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

You hold this, you hold that. You take this part. We ain't fly with the bullets, though, remember? We left the bullets, nigga. Put every piece of the gun in different bags. We checked our bag. Post 9 11, this pre 9 11. We land in Miami, my man put the gun back together. Yo, we good, Em.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, Em, we back.

[Beanie Sigel]

Then I met a couple niggas out there. See this where y' all got. Where people. They take that checking in. We ain't checking. We tapped in.

[Memphis Bleak]

We tapped in. That's a big. It's a big difference.

[Beanie Sigel]

Every time. Yo, we on our way out.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

To be waiting at the hotel situation.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. Situate. You can do them things.

[Beanie Sigel]

It's a difference between checking in and tapping. See, checking in, you got to tap in.

[Memphis Bleak]

You got.

[Beanie Sigel]

Wherever you at, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Checking in, tap in is because I think you soft.

[Beanie Sigel]

And you.

[Memphis Bleak]

You get protection. Tapping in gonna give you that pistol. A lot of these don't want the pistol. Nah, they want to roll like the homie here.

[Beanie Sigel]

You hold it.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that's why they gotta pay.

[Beanie Sigel]

I used to. I used to. I used to lead gang straight.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, we left many Guns on the road. We got clipped from a tour bus company. Cause you and me left a gun on the bus. Them like, we never giving the bus to Rockefeller again.

[Beanie Sigel]

Bullshit. Straight up bullshit.

[Memphis Bleak]

My nigga didn't like that happened all of that tour life. My like. Then my G, you. Let's speed up to. I want to get to state property. Yeah, that's me. Let's bring state property. Because you had Owen Sparks, Petey Crack, Freeway Chris and Neve.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And y' all just took over by force. The movie, the album Clothes. Like, I watched it. So I just want to know for the people that don't know, what was your mindset? Just all that happened because it happened. It's so fast, bro.

[Beanie Sigel]

I just was watching what was going on. Like, J, they did rocket rocker wear. Yeah. So, yo, I want to do state property clothes. Yeah. So I just was presenting any idea that I had. I just presented it. The movies. I just presented it. We should be doing this. We should be doing this.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Beanie Sigel]

And it just happened, like.

[Memphis Bleak]

And we was always close. I remember when you got the Bentleys. Were both Bentleys. They called me your m. Y' all just heard Jay about to get rid of his Bentley. You should call him and tell him.

[Beanie Sigel]

Give it to you.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's like, what?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, you talked me out of that. I could have had that joint.

[Memphis Bleak]

He wanted to get three. Yup.

[Beanie Sigel]

He was gonna get three.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, nah, bitch, you don't need all three, bitch.

[Beanie Sigel]

But this hot. But to tell you the story on how I got it. So the blue bay. This how I got it. I ain't cash out one of them joints. So Dame had the blue one. I remember Biggs had the brown joint. Yeah. I forget what show we had. What. Everybody was backstage in a room because, you know, it was. We was the B. We was the be. We used to be the big group 100. So we're in the A group. So we. I go in the A room. So you know it's Jay Dang, Biggs, Puff was back there, Steve Stout, all the big wigs. So I think Puff is just talking cash, and he was talking shit to Dane. So Puff was saying something. He couldn't find his Bentley. He was like, I don't know where I parked it. He had the powder blue to azure. Cool. So it's like, yeah. He was like, yeah, I got the nars. Biggs just bought that. And Puff was like, hold on. You got what? He was. I got the. I got the. No. He said, you got the four door. He was like, yeah. He said, you drive your own Bentley.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill.

[Beanie Sigel]

I remember, I swear.

[Memphis Bleak]

Rich Beef. Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

He said, Papa's like, you drive your own Bentley. He was like, I can't even find mine, yo. I don't know where I parked it. And since that day, Dame ain't never driving no more.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, Troy gave you the key?

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, oh, no, he didn't give it to me.

[Memphis Bleak]

He just couldn't find it.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, he. He stopped driving this. Now I asked, what you doing with that?

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me get that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, what you put down on that?

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me get that.

[Beanie Sigel]

And he gave me the number. Came up to the next day, cashier's check here.

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me get that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Let me get that. And then I think we was going through then. Jay and Nas was going at it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now.

[Beanie Sigel]

Went in on. I was like, man, Jay ain't want me to. Biggs was like, giddy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, Biggs always used to be the silent one in the back. Yo, what do you. Go ahead, kill them, nigga.

[Beanie Sigel]

Always pull me to the side. Get that, nigga. It.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

So that's when we went up. I did the.

[Memphis Bleak]

The Hot 97.

[Beanie Sigel]

The High 97.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was legendary.

[Beanie Sigel]

Special delivery joint. I remember it was my birthday. I come up, drew the Bentley up there. So my mom was like, yo, I think my mom came out, was my birthday. We in the studio, she laid it out cook. So all them left. So I go downstairs, I'm like, come on, man, Paco. I go downstairs, I'm looking for the car, and it's not there. I'm like, where my car at? They was like, oh, your mom, she left. How'd she take the car?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, mom used to be like, a B's.

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, nah, your car downstairs. I'm like, it's not there. I don't see it. He was like, come downstairs, man. So he's like, you don't see it? I said, no, I was parked right there. Where your car at? This went his pocket, gave him the keys. Oh. He was like, happy birthday, my dang. That's how I got the brown joint.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's how that went.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's fire. I ain't never know that, but I know we used to switch cars. Like, you know what I mean? I know we used to switch cars. We switched. Yeah, a lot.

[Beanie Sigel]

We used to switch.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause I call Beans and be like, yo, shit hot in New York. Let me hold a bit real quick. Take the bids on it. Or he'll be like, yo, bleak. We did some in the Bit. Take the bit. Let me get the bins. No, we used to switch cars on the turnpike. My at least every six months. Me and this be meeting on the turnpike, switching the Visa all the time. My crazy like, that's the. That I tell all the time that if we had Instagram and we had social media like these people kids today, it would have never been no end around.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, they be putting money on my books. We made drivers quick.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, yo, rest in peace, my man Gordon, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

Oh, my God, G. Yo, listen, I remember G jumped out. He was like, yo, I don't give a. I quit.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm not driving these niggas no more.

[Beanie Sigel]

There's more guns in this car than it is people.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that goy used to come to my crib. I used to be like, yo, Bleed, how the you hang with Beanie Secret. Why, why, why do you always want to go to Philly and be with Beanie Secret? All you do is carry all the guns. He got more guns than he know people. Like, all he do. One day they gonna pull his van over and all of y' all gonna go to jail. I used to be like, yo, Gorgeous. But you know what? When I knew, I'm like, yo, Beans don't give a Man, this nigga's really on some. Like, he. He don't care is when we had it. For some reason, a lot of happened in Boston. We was coming from Boston. It was New Year's Eve. And you told Gordon, yo, I want to be back in Philly before the ball drop. If we don't make it to Philly before the ball drop, I'm slapping you and all my mother. Y' all was like at Exit 6 that they could go and call me this, put hands on me. I look at the clock, it's like 12:05. I'm like, yo, this nigga is crazy. I'm like, yo, he told him, if we ain't in Philly before the ball dropped, I'm slapping you, going.

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't remember that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you was on some bullshit.

[Beanie Sigel]

I plead the Fifth. I plead the Fifth.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, he was on some shit back then, Steve.

[Beanie Sigel]

I plead the Fifth.

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[Memphis Bleak]

It's gotta be tied. Woo. What a vibe we've got, y'.

[Beanie Sigel]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Beanie Sigel]

Mmm.

[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Back and look back and be like, put it like this. Do you have any regrets that you feel like, damn, man, I should have focused more on this and not been on that?

[Beanie Sigel]

I mean, in hindsight you could look, I look back, I didn't know I had a career. It was a link to me think about it. Bleep. I went from being on the block buying 9 ounces of coke, getting fronted 9 ounces, to months later, being signed to Rockefeller Records. And think about it. I was only Beanie Siegel on the streets for two years. My. It seemed like it was a long time, but the truth and the reason. And in between that, we did the Dynasty. I was booked.

[Memphis Bleak]

I remember when you was going to turn yourself in, like, yeah, I was.

[Beanie Sigel]

Only Beanie Siegel on the streets probably two and a half years. Yeah. So I didn't have time to sit back and look like, all right, this is a career. You know what I mean? I was on it. I come from a block where it's like a block. I come from Philly, man. You gotta look over your shoulder with everybody. Yeah. So is this me? South Philly. Anybody tell you that's from Philadelphia? There's no reason for a North, a southwest south, any part of the city to come to South. South Philly just got. Got a up name.

[Memphis Bleak]

I ain't know that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

So y' all like the East New York of Philly?

[Beanie Sigel]

We like Brooklyn.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. That's what I mean. New York. Brownsville, Crown height. I mean, Canarsie. They call that, like, the end. Them don't care.

[Beanie Sigel]

They kill.

[Memphis Bleak]

They. They still out here doing whatever right now.

[Beanie Sigel]

So. And it was just me. I had Deacon Roller. Roller passed away. Then, you know, Sadiq, but it was just me by myself. I ain't nobody that's from my town with me. So I'm doing all this by myself. And I'm used to. You got me?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

You say you got me. You got me.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

So that's how I'm right. Like, I didn't care about nothing else.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you had a lot of OGs around you because you used to bring up a of lot, lot of from Philly. And I remember, like, one thing I'mma always say, man. Brother. Your brother news, man. Yeah, your news. From first day I met him to today, he's always been the same guy. About his business, about his family, about his check. Never for the nonsense. Then you had she with you, too, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's why I said one. She.

[Memphis Bleak]

She was that guy, man, that I felt like. I think it's to keep all of us in check. Cause he'll be telling you some shit. I'll be sitting there like, yeah, he right. I might need to do that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, what's up with she, man?

[Beanie Sigel]

She good.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man. I ain't seen him in forever.

[Beanie Sigel]

I still talk to the old man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what's up, man. Like, out of all of y', all, y' all always brought a lot of people up to New York from Philly. So I always felt like.

[Beanie Sigel]

But it was different. I was part of the family. Like, with me, it was different. People, though, all the time, because that was me, like, giving people a chance.

[Memphis Bleak]

To get out the city. Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Not even a shot. Just to get away from what we used to. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Y' all definitely. I ain't go front. Y' all used to. Always used to be like, yo, bleak, man. We going on vacation. The city is. It's crazy right now. I don't even want to be out there. Yeah, y' all got the crib in Manhattan. Remember, y' all was.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hey, yo, Chips, man. Remember, I go into this crib in the city. This would not walk around the crib. Everything he did was on the Segway. This is when the Segways first came out. This would go to the bathroom on the Segway, go to get something to drink on the Segway. Roll the blunt on the Segway. Yo, M, he's sitting there just turning around doing360.m roll up m Yo, play the beat. Bring the beat back. Yo, y', all, house arrest.

[Beanie Sigel]

Wow.

[Memphis Bleak]

So, like, you know that's a big thing online with the jail, and you coming home with HOV and they saying, like, HOV didn't take responsibility. Looking back now, do you fault him for feeling that way? Like, if you take yourself out of that. Out of being yourself in that situation and put yourself on the outside looking there?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Would you have made the same choice he made, or do you think you would have made a different choice?

[Beanie Sigel]

I'd have got my boy home. Think so, yeah. I'd have got my boy home. I don't. I don't know how he felt, because we never had that conversation yet.

[Memphis Bleak]

Me neither.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I can't speak on how he felt. I could just only speak on what I would have did if I had a chance to get any of my homies out of jail. I don't care what I would have had to do, but I got him out.

[Memphis Bleak]

In hindsight, like you said, hindsight, looking back, he was reckless. See, that's like putting. That's like. That's like me co. Signing on a car on a. Who don't got a license or drive drunk all the time.

[Beanie Sigel]

Would you do that? No, I wouldn't do that.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's almost. It's like, come on, bro.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You had a life like, think about it. When you came home from that time. Right? Because that was the shooting. That was the shooting at the club, right? That case.

[Beanie Sigel]

What shooting?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's when the home.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's crazy. I say that.

[Memphis Bleak]

What shooting? You know what I'm saying? Outside shooting. But I'm saying that was the shooting at the club with your first case where you got locked up when you went to the trial.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah. Right. So what was said is if we allow. I know, yeah. You.

[Memphis Bleak]

You would take responsibility for this man.

[Beanie Sigel]

Would you be responsible for his whereabouts? Meaning would you give us all the documents that we need to know? He's going to be in St. Louis this day. He's going to be in Missouri. They just wanted to know when he'd be able to give up the tour schedule.

[Memphis Bleak]

See, I didn't know that. But my thing is. Let me ask you a question. What I was saying on that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Let me finish answering. So I couldn't look at my homie shackle, ankle to wrist and look him in his face and say, nah. Mm. Because let's say if I would have came home and wowed out and shot somebody, nothing could have happened to Jack.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you did.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I didn't.

[Memphis Bleak]

You didn't shoot nobody. But you wowed out how, bro? You went back to jail.

[Beanie Sigel]

Tax evasion.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, no. This was. That was after Rockefeller breakup, bro. Remember you got caught with a gun or some ill like that when you were speeding on the run, where the police are doing.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's all the same case. That's all the same this. I had a state case for the gun. Then I had to.

[Memphis Bleak]

But there was the shooting case.

[Beanie Sigel]

Feds pick a duck. No, I had attempted murder in the state.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Beanie Sigel]

I had the gun and the fed at the same time.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was all one case.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, it was two different. Two different cases.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. I remember. I was there. My nigga like you did come home and wild out nigga went on a high speed chase with me.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, no, no, no.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's when you made the song with Cam. Run it.

[Beanie Sigel]

Listen, I caught attempted murder.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's the first case. Yes.

[Beanie Sigel]

And I caught a gun case.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Beanie Sigel]

Both of those cases was in the state. Both of them. The fed. I beat the gun case. I still had to go to court for the attempted murder. The feds picked up the gun case. But still it's.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was just running concurrently.

[Beanie Sigel]

It was just run at the same time.

[Memphis Bleak]

Two different cases.

[Beanie Sigel]

So when the feds picked it Up. I went to the federal courthouse, the feds. I was out on bail for the attempted murder. I was trying to get Bell for the gun. So when they pass, would you be responsible for his whereabouts? Just letting us know where you're gonna be at. Tour schedule. This, that, and the third, same.

[Memphis Bleak]

You my brother.

[Beanie Sigel]

No new case.

[Memphis Bleak]

You my brother. I'm gonna be all the way. Honest.

[Beanie Sigel]

Me, you would have left me in jail. You ain't. You left, at least you are.

[Memphis Bleak]

This got your man, like, yo, this keep going through all this. Cause you gotta think back.

[Beanie Sigel]

It wasn't nothing new.

[Memphis Bleak]

But let's take it back. What up? Remember the incident in Baseline? Remember that? I don't want to get into detail, but all of that piles up to that decision. Yeah, you gotta remember that, bro. It ain't one thing that needs to.

[Beanie Sigel]

Put it that way.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying?

[Beanie Sigel]

What happened in baseline?

[Memphis Bleak]

You fucking turned this shit into Hiroshima. What do you mean, what happened in baseline? Nigga, you want me to run down. I don't wanna bring up open old wounds, but if you want.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nah, don't do that. Don't do that. But I wasn't wrong, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

I wasn't there. Remember? I came and it was just blood on the wall. And I'm looking like, yo, what the going on? It's blood everywhere. And you, like, think I'm playing. I say your beans, listen. No, I don't know what's going on.

[Beanie Sigel]

But, y', all, you were murdered. I remember you were murdered. Called me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. No, we came up there, y'.

[Beanie Sigel]

All.

[Memphis Bleak]

You was like, yo, what the going on in the studio?

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't think you should come back up baseline. He was like, yo, don't come back.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, like, what you mean?

[Beanie Sigel]

It was like, yo, don't come back up here.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, listen, it was Tata's sister. Thais is the one who called me. She was like, yo, bleak you in the city? Cause remember, I was the one who came to Baseline early in the morning. Y' all used to be there. Vampire hours.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

She called me like, yo, bleep. You in the city. I'm like, yo, I'm on my way to the city right now. And she was like, yo, please, whatever you do, get to the studio now. Bees in them up here wilding. So I said, what, they flipped on you? She was like, no, but when you.

[Beanie Sigel]

See, you gonna see it wasn't no girl in there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, she was the receptionist.

[Beanie Sigel]

She wasn't there, though. Yes, she was. When that happened.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was in the front. Remember? It Was remember the front, you had.

[Beanie Sigel]

To go through the floor. So people don't know this, what happened? So I go to Atlantic City. I win some money in Atlantic City. Smoked them probably about one like, like 80 grand.

[Memphis Bleak]

Atlantic City, I got a casino story too.

[Beanie Sigel]

So we left Atlantic City, we go to studio. Go to the studio. I'm in the B room, we chilling. You know, I'm on my leisure pleasure. Just say that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Libations.

[Beanie Sigel]

You heard. You hear me? I'm on my leisure pleasure. So back then, you see how short Bleak Chain is? Back then we used to wear it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Long as a motherfucker.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I'm in my leisure pleasure. I go under. When I come up from out of my joint stretch, I look on the floor and there's this mad hundred dollar bills all over the floor. So I'm like, what the? So I checked my pockets like, damn, I know I ain't good. So I'm picking up all the money. Caught me in my sleeping. Yeah, when I was sleeping, was two fingering me, money out of my pocket. This man's all honeys. So I'm worrying about the money and I'm like, dang. Then I look. So I'm like, hold up.

[Memphis Bleak]

When I came, like, I'm like, hold up.

[Beanie Sigel]

The money, it was about that Rockefeller piece. Like, that's a badge of honor. That's right. That's like a bulletproof vest. That's right.

[Memphis Bleak]

It meant something.

[Beanie Sigel]

It meant something. That's right. You can't get upstairs and baseline without somebody busting you in.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I wake up everybody that's with me, yo, you got my chain? You got my chain? Don't nobody got the chain. Everybody done.

[Memphis Bleak]

Wait.

[Beanie Sigel]

My mom like, yo, I woke up, can see the money hanging out my pocket. It's all on the floor. I must have came out and they dip. So I said, okay. I go to the front. For some reason today, the cameras ain't working. I need to know who came up in that chain. Don't come up the money. Mop this shit. Cameras ain't working.

[Memphis Bleak]

Mop this.

[Beanie Sigel]

But. But did this though. Uh huh. Not only did they take the. The chain, he stole J from records. They're summer. See, they ain't putting that together. They ain't just take the chain. Remember J music. But they don't talk about that. They stole the music too. But they don't talk. They this talk.

[Memphis Bleak]

So yeah, went left, went left, went left.

[Beanie Sigel]

I paid for it though.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm about to the time.

[Beanie Sigel]

That Cost me like an M. Yeah, before.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that was before what? Your second album.

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't know.

[Memphis Bleak]

I think that was around the second, like, going. Yeah, that was. I think it was either the third album or the second album.

[Beanie Sigel]

Right.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you gotta remember that's what I was saying, Beans. It was so much that, like, yo, I don't think homie listening. He gonna get it. I can't.

[Beanie Sigel]

I can't mad on what I done enough. If you. Well, you already said you gonna leave me in jail, so no matter what I did, nothing would have happened to nobody but me. I'm not gonna leave my homie in jail under no circumstances. But that's what. Under the br. I get it. Yeah. Cause I look back and like, damn, I was drawn.

[Memphis Bleak]

We all was drawn crazy.

[Beanie Sigel]

Like I was. I. Not just that. Not just that. I understand. No, because another level, another incident that happened. I don't want. We gonna talk about that off camera, but I feel. But I feel Jay, I felt him. And that might have been a nail in the coffin is another incident happened. I don't want to talk about it. But, Jay, mine was in the studio. I didn't know. And something happened. And that might have been a nail in the coffin. So I don't know.

[Memphis Bleak]

Something happened with mom around.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, Nothing happened to Mom.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, no, not happening. But with her being around. I never heard that story afterwards.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I didn't never hear that story.

[Beanie Sigel]

That might have been a nail in the coffin.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's crazy. And me understanding Jay, he's a silent assassin. He don't talk and he not gonna tell you what he thinking. He just gonna move.

[Beanie Sigel]

So that might have been the nail in the corner.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hov is different when it comes to that. Like, and you were around, like, remember me? I grew up with these. Like, I'm always little bro in their eyes. They never. Like. I always felt like they never gonna let me grow up. Like, it's like my son. My son, 22, but you still a baby to me. I don't give a how old you get. You my son. And that's how I feel. J and them little bro me that they don't just allow a to grow up. Like, remember you used to get invited to all the. All the gambling. I was never. Remember you used to be at all the gambling events with Mike Kaiser, all of y'. All.

[Beanie Sigel]

But they quit that bread.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause you was taking that bread.

[Beanie Sigel]

Remember on the J. Remember you. Oh, gamma. Yo, let me tell you about what you did to me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. What I do?

[Beanie Sigel]

What you where's in Vegas? Where's in Vegas? I lose all my. All the bread I had on. You was sitting there. I think you was playing three card poker with Franny. You ain't even know how to play. This nigga win like winning.

[Memphis Bleak]

30 racks.

[Beanie Sigel]

30 racks.

[Memphis Bleak]

I never forget.

[Beanie Sigel]

I tell you, I said, bleep, let me get a dime till we get back.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep.

[Beanie Sigel]

He said, no.

[Memphis Bleak]

I said, no, no way.

[Beanie Sigel]

He said no. I said, okay, yo, you went call home, got Western Union some money.

[Memphis Bleak]

He went to the table 60, 60, 70, something, stupid.

[Beanie Sigel]

You better put like two more zeros behind that.

[Memphis Bleak]

You want some?

[Beanie Sigel]

I wound up winning a box something.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Then he has to tell a story cause I had to get his chips. Delaney. Yeah, like five minutes, yo, you want some? He wound up losing. I got on the jet and I was doing nut. No, don't give me all honeys. I want it 20s. I had the book bag. So bleak, still think I'm broke. He was like, yeah, he's showing off his money to Jay. I'm like, yeah, Jay, this wouldn't let me get 10,000. He ain't even know what he was doing. And I told him, yo, put the money right there. Nah, they meant bleak, put it right there. Yo, he put the money on the joint. Bang. This hit a straight. A royal flush.

[Memphis Bleak]

Royal flush.

[Beanie Sigel]

One like 30, 60,000. Man, I got on that plane with a buck something in a book bag.

[Memphis Bleak]

Poured it out in the tank.

[Beanie Sigel]

I said, bleed, let me get. I said, bleed, let me get his thousand until we get back. He said, nah. He was like, use some. Some. I said, I don't need it. Who wanna play guts? Zipped open the book bag, dump that on the like. Yeah. He like, yo, yo, you don't remember.

[Memphis Bleak]

What I told you after that? Ah, nah, nigga, you gotta teach me how to play craps. That three car poker, nigga, we gotta go to play craps, nigga.

[Beanie Sigel]

N what he was doing? No won 30,000, yo, straight give me ten grand.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I was on some. I don't remember that. I thought I would have gave it to you. That's some. I gave Jim Jones 10 grand for a bet. And I ain't give it to my dog.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I didn't give it to some.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was on some.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, but I don't know why you didn't give it to me. Because remember I had money. I had crate, but I lost it. I had like 40,000. He was like, bro, you didn't just lose all that money.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, yo don't understand the Crazy we was doing back then.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, my.

[Memphis Bleak]

You had a alligators?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I remember asking this. He in the Bentley, the alligator in the passenger seat with a diamond collar on. Yo, Beans, you want the alligator Word. You like? Yeah, look better. This just bit Big face, you better look out. And I'm like, yo, what's the name of the gator? Said Ali. Short for Ali Gator. Yo, chill, chill, chill. I'm looking at this nigga like, yo, he definitely on some next level shit. Nigga riding around the city with a fucking alligator, my nigga.

[Beanie Sigel]

So look, I gotta clear shit up too.

[Memphis Bleak]

What happened?

[Beanie Sigel]

Cause Free was when Free did the joint. But cousin E. What cousin E do lying.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill to you. What?

[Beanie Sigel]

He said his name cousin E, right?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, he said you named him cousin E. But why? He said, because I don't know. He didn't.

[Beanie Sigel]

Cause you was trying to figure out why.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Cause I'm like, your name start with an I. How your name cousin E? He was like, beans, just start calling me cousin E out of nowhere. He never gave a real explanation. Now that you say it, E, I'm getting.

[Beanie Sigel]

You know, I told you y' all was up there doing lunch. You do a lot of lying.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill. What he doing?

[Beanie Sigel]

You know where cousin E come from? He had these glasses.

[Memphis Bleak]

Not Urkel. Don't fucking tell me Urkel.

[Beanie Sigel]

You had these round joints. They was Moschino joints. They was the same year the buggy eyed E class came out. Yo, so cousin E come from the bids E class, yo. Shit, yeah, E, stop.

[Memphis Bleak]

He definitely didn't keep it real about that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Ye, that's where he come from.

[Memphis Bleak]

Niggas said the buggy eyed bins on them.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, the E class. Yo, crazy told y' all it's gonna get you.

[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Let's get into State Property.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah. Movie.

[Memphis Bleak]

How would that like who I did that? Like if that was a crew from Philly, like a real crew, that's they wasn't named state property, they were doing something else. Else. Like the story was real, right?

[Beanie Sigel]

So the story was about a crew from Philly called the JBL junior Black Mafia. So when I got with Big Tron and I read this script, the name of the Movie was called jbm. And I was like, no, we can't do that. Cause there's still people to this day that's got appeals in trying to come, come home from that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

So we got to change that. So it went from JBM to abm.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that was our name in the movie.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, the abm. So we had to switch it. So a lot of was just too close to the real. So that's where we did that. And then a lot of the dialogue, I'm like, bro, we can't do this, bro. So we switched it up. And a lot of you remember we was reading the scripts.

[Memphis Bleak]

Little, little lines.

[Beanie Sigel]

It's like, oh, I don't know.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like that.

[Beanie Sigel]

We can't do that. Remember? Every day.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Who they call Dallies or the sides, we'll just get together. Look, they want us to say this, but we gonna flip it like this. So that whole state property movie we imprompted, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

And none of us had an idea that we was gonna make a cult classic. Like, that movie is a classic to this day, bro. Like, more people know me for Blaze than my music. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, that happened to me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, I tell you. No, I get more people like, yo, that Blaze character than walking up on some music.

[Beanie Sigel]

See, I get that. That's beans. But you know what I get more than anything? What? They gonna stew from paper soldiers. That's right.

[Memphis Bleak]

They go stoop.

[Beanie Sigel]

Younger kids, they stoop.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's paper soldiers. Damn. That's another thing, man. Like, not only making history, rapping in Philly. My. If I'm not mistaken, you put Kevin Hart in his first movie.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nah, I can't say that wasn't his first movie. It was, but I'm not gonna take that credit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, nah, you did it.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I didn't. You was with. Dang. Right, Right.

[Memphis Bleak]

Dame did it right.

[Beanie Sigel]

You.

[Memphis Bleak]

You was the lead actor, right?

[Beanie Sigel]

Why you gonna say I was with Dame?

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause you was. You was on the movie tip. I ain't talking about the breakup game with Dame or some shit like that. I'm talking about you don't do that. Yeah, you know, you and Dame was click.

[Beanie Sigel]

We was.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you was blood. He was cuz y' all was cuz blood.

[Beanie Sigel]

I was neutral. And it's documented.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you was a little neutral, but then it's neutral. Beans. You. Y' all chose a little bit of sides. Cause when the smoke got on, I.

[Beanie Sigel]

Didn'T choose no side.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, you did.

[Beanie Sigel]

It's documented.

[Memphis Bleak]

Think about this. All right, all right.

[Beanie Sigel]

Go back and look at. Look at the document. When I got picked up from the jail, I was asked on the tour bus, then came and got me. Who was I going with? And I see it to this day. That's like asking a child, what parent? What parent?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, we seen that footage.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I didn't pick a side. Now, Dane was coming to see me. He was coming to the jail. But I never chose a side, ever.

[Memphis Bleak]

I felt like y' all did. You wanna know me because remember when it was getting. When the smoke with Dipset was getting real? Like, when it was becoming. I ain't only. It ain't only. Tension in the air is talking on the radio. Is making records. Is on the mixtapes with K Slay. Rest in peace talking. Y' all did records together?

[Beanie Sigel]

Oh, you. You did records?

[Memphis Bleak]

Cam is on running.

[Beanie Sigel]

You pick up. That was way before that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Pick up. No, this was all in the middle of it the same time.

[Beanie Sigel]

But Cam got on running when I was in jail. I wasn't home when Cam was on that.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's another point, Drew. That's a good point.

[Beanie Sigel]

Come on, remember, let's keep it rock solid.

[Memphis Bleak]

The Gunners was on. The Gunners was on Jewel's album.

[Beanie Sigel]

So did they pick us high?

[Memphis Bleak]

No, it looked like y' all was down with D. Harlem how?

[Beanie Sigel]

When I was in a jail cell, I heard Harlem Shake. Never all them Shakespeare.

[Memphis Bleak]

Listen.

[Beanie Sigel]

I got. I was in jail in my cell. What song they did. It's time to set it off.

[Memphis Bleak]

It wasn't set it off. It wasn't set it off. They was on Santana album. Santana wasn't on the album. They were on his album. Song on his album once set it off.

[Beanie Sigel]

I was in jail when that came out.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Beanie Sigel]

Was Book ne said something about weirdos thinking. You heard? He said, wanna I forget the line, Weirdo.

[Memphis Bleak]

De Niro and Paris. Yeah, I remember the line.

[Beanie Sigel]

But he said, the smartest choice that we made, we running with Coach Carter. So Coach Carter was Jay Neef. Told you on that record, he rocking with Jay.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Mm.

[Beanie Sigel]

So how he pick a side? Any side he pick, he pick J side.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you seen girls jump double Dutch, right? No, it's two feet. Play both sides, cuz.

[Beanie Sigel]

You know what a pair. You know what a pair of lips to do, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

They ain't say anything.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that's right. You know that when they in front of this person, that person. But that's just the way one thing with me, that's the way it seems. I'm never gonna say that's the way it was. It's just the way it seemed. But I never let none of that ever get in the. In the way of our relationship. Because I always felt like if this was a real family, y' all was really like my down south cousins. My like. And I would really give me cousin. You was my brother, bro. We started this. My all of y' all free the Gunners. All of y' all became my brothers.

[Beanie Sigel]

But you was first. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And me and you locked in together from the beginning. And all of y' all became family to me. We all became family. And then come Dipset. And then it just felt like everything shifted where it was one side against the other side. But state property never, ever picked a side.

[Beanie Sigel]

Never.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like y' all was on both. It was like we with them, we fuck with y'.

[Beanie Sigel]

All.

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[Beanie Sigel]

Cause me, you, and Jay is in baseline. We was having a powwow.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. You know, Cam talk about that on the pod. When I interview him, he like, yo, I come in the room and shit just got quiet. We was in there chopping it up. That's what I'm saying.

[Beanie Sigel]

Shout out to Killer.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up. But like, I look back at that type of shit and just say to myself, like, damn, just imagine if we put all that ego bullshit to the side. Cause if you think about the problems with. Was about nothing. That was just.

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't even know.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was about nothing.

[Beanie Sigel]

Listen, I don't think it was about nothing.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cam said it, Jimmy said it. Big Face said it. Me and you. I don't know what it started with. I just know I'm riding with my Mary to the death Whatever they say it was Brooklyn we ride you in.

[Beanie Sigel]

A wheel somewhere yo, you bleak in the wheel somewhere so you know it's.

[Memphis Bleak]

They said China just came out With a potion to make a hundred to 150. Listen, let's get at the ho. Cause we don't want niggas he ducking.

[Beanie Sigel]

Ass leaking the wheel somewhere I wasn't even mentioned on that record.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, you was. He said Beans made millions. Beans made millions. But he'll tell you if he wasn't in his feelings.

[Beanie Sigel]

Wrong record.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's the same. No, it's not. That's the Dynasty remix. Am I lying?

[Beanie Sigel]

No, that's Diamonds Are Found.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, that's the same record.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's not it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cam made millions. Beans made millions. That's a different record. That's what we talking about. One thing about me, that's what we talk about. I'm going solid. So you mad you didn't get a shout out on that album.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I wasn't mad on that.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, not mad. But I'm just saying, you like, damn, ain't even mention me and that line, you know?

[Beanie Sigel]

Damn it. No. I got Marcelli.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know how you play Battleship?

[Beanie Sigel]

No. My Sally. Huh? He used to grind me up about that. Cause, you know, in jail we had the joint. So here playing. My man Hitchy, he like, damn, Cannon. Your man ain't with you, huh? This how I first heard him. Yeah. In the jail. He was like, your man ain't with you? I'm like, what you mean? He took off his joint and I heard it. He killing. He said, said, listen to it again. I'm like, what you talking about? He said, you know, we on that rocket, cuz. Dang, that's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

But look, you play Battleship, you know how it go. Hey, dog, you sunk my battleship.

[Beanie Sigel]

I probably sunk my own battleship, I think.

[Memphis Bleak]

I think that line played a part in me. Cause after that, I can't have a conversation with that. I like, hey, dog, you up?

[Beanie Sigel]

You in a will.

[Memphis Bleak]

See?

[Jacob Goldstein]

See?

[Memphis Bleak]

You see what I mean? So when I used to start.

[Beanie Sigel]

Hold on, do. Say when. I used to go, it's all part of the will.

[Memphis Bleak]

When I used to go, say, check the DJs and be like, yo, fam, I need you to play this record. And these real DJs flat enough. Everybody's looking me clue.

[Beanie Sigel]

Ah, Brick, you don't need this.

[Memphis Bleak]

Exactly. You don't need this.

[Beanie Sigel]

You good. What?

[Memphis Bleak]

I need this. I'm not good.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I don't want to break glass in case emergency. Y' all want to see me break the glass? Like, help me stay away from it.

[Beanie Sigel]

At least you could break one.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, dawg, nah. That shit might not break. It might be plexi. We don't know. I never tried to break it.

[Beanie Sigel]

You in a well, yo. It's bleak.

[Memphis Bleak]

Good, yo, but listen, he in a well.

[Beanie Sigel]

He in a well somewhere.

[Memphis Bleak]

My man gotta die for that. I don't want that. I don't want that bread.

[Beanie Sigel]

I respect that.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, I told Hope that with my daughter. When he told me that, he came to me and was like, yo, m. You know, that real. And I told him, I hope I never see that money. You feel me? I want my man to live forever. You feel that? That ain't.

[Beanie Sigel]

That's. That's.

[Memphis Bleak]

I love it. I love the gesture. That's my brother. I love it. But I want my man to live forever, man. You know what I'm saying? I want us all to live forever. I don't want no, like, let's ball together.

[Beanie Sigel]

I want ball.

[Memphis Bleak]

Ball when you're going.

[Beanie Sigel]

You did right.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, and, like, that's another thing. Like, I've been trying to set this. You've been on tour, you know, Ice Iced Tea Tour. Now. Y' all on another tour right now, right?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, with the cash.

[Memphis Bleak]

Been trying to catch up with you. With the. The Cash Money Iced Tea Tour. The LL Tour. Y' all on tour. Tour. Life Been trying to catch up with you. To sit down.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And when I spoke to you, I spoke to Freeway, I spoke to your brother News, and he was like, yo, you want to catch Beans, man? We got a new restaurant. Pull up to the restroom. So I said, y' all got a new restaurant? Hell, yeah, I'm pulling up, Nigga. I'm a fat. I'm a fat nigga. I gotta eat. You feel me? So we here at my nigga Bean's establishment, Cintucci's Original Square Pizza. I want to congratulate you, my brother. Thank you. Cause this is the shit we work for. This is the shit we dream of. This is the shit we can leave our kids. Facts, you know what I mean? It's real. And I'm in this. That. We in the kitchen, like you said. We walk through the kitchen on Think it's a game.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now we really in the kitchen.

[Beanie Sigel]

We walk through our own kitchen.

[Memphis Bleak]

You feel me? You dig? Real shit, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

Hey, Bleak. I just want my slice of the pie.

[Memphis Bleak]

Literally.

[Beanie Sigel]

Even if it's square.

[Memphis Bleak]

Literally. You feel me?

[Beanie Sigel]

Even if it's square. Literally.

[Memphis Bleak]

Babe, what. What gave you the idea to be like, yo, that, man, I'm getting in the food because you always been a cooking ass on tour. I ain't gonna lie.

[Beanie Sigel]

I mean, just me, my brother, my sister, putting our hands together and just think we. I ain't getting no younger. I ain't gonna be torn forever. I ain't gonna. You know, I'm. I'm working on a project right now with this AI thing, but I think this. They might get that, and I'm done with it.

[Memphis Bleak]

You done? That's it?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I'm done with it.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's dope, though, man. Like, I. I'm not a fan of the AI because I watched the Terminator, dog.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

John Connor out here, kid. Yeah. I mean, I got the Pistols, we ready. You still got the baby wap for me? I might need that again, just in case AI take over.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm a civilian.

[Memphis Bleak]

But the way you use it AI I think that's the way AI is meant to be used to restore something. You know what I mean?

[Beanie Sigel]

Come on, Doc. I hit you up two years ago when I first heard about this.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Beanie Sigel]

Let's go, Doc.

[Memphis Bleak]

I ain't even think about that.

[Beanie Sigel]

I think we the only two that this AI thing will get accepted from. Me and the Doc.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's dope, man. I ain't even think about Doc. But like, one of the things I always felt like I'm like, man, you know, we lose a lot as men. We go to jail, we lose friends, we lose family, we lose money. Like a could sacrifice a lot of things, man. And I feel like if they want to take something from me, take something, take a toe, take a finger. I know when I spoke to you and you was like, man, like, look what they did to me, my G. I. I couldn't express it to you then because, you know, I was my first time seeing you. But bro, like, my. That. That shattered my heart, my. Cause I know you and I know us, our voice is how we made our living, how we made our fortune, how we fed our family, man. So for that to be taken away from you, my. Your strength, your resilience that you use to push through and still perform, still make music. What's that like, man? Because it's like I said, you know, we could talk about stuff off camera and deal with it, but it's people out there who don't know what we discuss us and might need that inspiration.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, that rough, man. What I mean, you know, I. I was 400 pounds and can go forever in the booth. One take. And now my whole. The way I record is different because I write, you know, we.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

Picked it up from the big homie. We don't write nothing down when I'm writing in my head. But when I go in the booth and try to the delivery, I gotta do certain. I gotta punch in.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I could take a lot to.

[Beanie Sigel]

Give the people what they want. But I figured it out because I always played with the tracks.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

And learned how to use a lot, utilize the track. So, you know, it's something that I always did. So I just figured it out. That's right. The puzzle to put it together. And I think this album right here is a well deserved album that I think is really needed like right now. Because you know, we come up right now in this music era, we in a deaf culture. Right now. Everything is just deaf. Everything is dying. They say drill music. I call it the Deaf culture. And I think this. This album, I'm really talking to the youngins, you know, and a lot of the music, and then I'm talking, you know, in their perspective. Cause I understand. Cause I was a Y. N. That's right. You reminded me, especially saying all the shit that I used to do. That shit. Crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. It's just a few things I want to tell them. We can't tell them everything.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, not.

[Memphis Bleak]

Come on. We can't tell them everything. My g. But yeah, just your resilience, your strength. You like, you inspiration. You inspired a whole generation out there. If somebody never told you or you don't know, like, remember, I'm. I took myself on the outside. I had to look in. Yeah. You know what I mean? I had to accept what was lost. Even though I might not have took a physical loss like you, but my. To lose everything that you thought was your life and have to reset, start over and go another path. It's almost like losing everything, too. So I had to take a step back from rock.

[Beanie Sigel]

I think that's. That's where a lot of my. How can I say this? That played a part a lot of my. The animosity. I might not knew how to express it, but it was like, what the.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, this can't be over.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

I felt the same way, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, what the fuck? I was raised off this mob. This thing of ours is forever. You feel me? I was even hopeful one day we might even got back together. It's a reunion shit. But it never happens. 25 years later, bro, and it still never happened.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, I think. I don't know.

[Memphis Bleak]

I think certain niggas in the crew went too far. Yeah, I think they went too far.

[Beanie Sigel]

Too far.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, it's a lot of us still.

[Beanie Sigel]

I accept my part. I accept mines.

[Memphis Bleak]

And you and Jay spoke about that like y' all seen each other at Clark Kent funeral, you know?

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I accept it.

[Memphis Bleak]

And, you know, I heard that from Biggs. Yeah, I spoke to Biggs the next day.

[Beanie Sigel]

Cause I wanted to tally myself. I didn't want it to go through third party because I ain't gonna say no names. A couple people from the crew was cj, and I heard, like, Jay's like, high beans doing it. Oh, no, he cool. Yeah, I'm cool. What the. But, like, if I could never tell a billionaire that his homie that he ain't seen in years, no, I'd have been like, oh, no, he up. Word. He needs you. What do you mean? I'm cool. Yeah, nigga. I'm out here doing.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm grinding foundies.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm cool. You crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's a fact.

[Beanie Sigel]

Far from cool, man. Hey, yay. I'm still waiting. I know you're going through some, but hey, still waiting.

[Memphis Bleak]

He said yay said yeah, I'm still waiting.

[Beanie Sigel]

Still waiting.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yay. Come through, huh?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yay. You ain't seen.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nah. You ain't got a lot on his.

[Memphis Bleak]

One is place they dealing with some right now.

[Beanie Sigel]

He dealing with some and I don't even. Like I said, I don't. We don't reward fish for swimming. You know what I'm saying? You got a lot of killed that.

[Memphis Bleak]

You don't reward fish for swimming.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, sir.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, you killed that. I ain't heard that one. I heard a lot of statements in my life. I ain't heard that one.

[Beanie Sigel]

My. You killed that one.

[Memphis Bleak]

I like that one.

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[Beanie Sigel]

All.

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[Memphis Bleak]

I remember being. I wasn't with you, but I was in Philly when. What's my man name? Fucking the comedian. He was down with dipset Cat Williams.

[Beanie Sigel]

Cat fucking Williams? Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Came to Philly and bought you a fucking Lambo.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah. I had to get that back. I couldn't keep that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Gave it back. Yeah, you a good man. Yeah, you a good man, Cat. Listen, that shit would have been imallable right now.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nah. So what happened was Cat came to a show, he gave me the car. Right. He was like, yeah, that's yours? Uh huh. I didn't know him and Cath was.

[Memphis Bleak]

Going through drama like that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah. So you know that was part of the like how you said. I put cabin. I'm not taking. I didn't take Kev on that was Dane did that. So yeah, me and Kev. I was in a movie with his first movie with him. But I don't take no credit for that. So he gave me the Lambo. So I got a show. So that there. I got a show incident happened. His documented and Kev got. I mean, yeah, Cat Williams got into something with some on the stage and I knew him and they went too far with that. So it was on my watch.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I couldn't keep that. I wouldn't feel right as a man keeping that. So go ahead Kev. I can't take that.

[Memphis Bleak]

You're a good man. You better than me, dog. Like I said, cash, you would have been on no stranding park right now in front of the Chicken Spot. Blizzle back, Yo. Like, how do you feel about the state of Philadelphia hip hop now from where you took it to where it's at now.

[Beanie Sigel]

I think there's a lot of good talent in Philadelphia. Hell of a talent. I think it's too many big I's and little U's in Philadelphia right now. And I think everybody should just work with each other. Everybody want to make it and that's cool. Everybody want to be the one. I think a lot of people put. I won't even say pressure, but they look at one person to be the savior. And they look and, you know, they think me is the be all end all. And I think that's not fair to me. Everybody who don't make it, they like, yeah. Cause Meek should do this, me should do that, and he should put us on. That ain't fair to me, am I in my eyes, I think everybody work hard. And if every. All the artists in the city come together at some point, then Philly is unstoppable. That's a fact. On the music tip.

[Memphis Bleak]

Speaking of Meek, Meek is a phenomenal artist. Young boy put. Philly took it to another level.

[Beanie Sigel]

Whole nother level.

[Memphis Bleak]

Listen, when I listen to Meek as a. From a fan, I hear every one of y' all from state property in me. I have Petey Crack. I have Freeway. I hear you like, there's no way. Meek is a product of state property that's undeniable. Every time he rhyme, I hear different flows or different. That sound like. I'll be like, that's that state P bag. He in that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying?

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, that's everybody. Yeah, that's anybody that came out. That's when you listen to me. You gonna hit big. You gonna hit Scarface.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that's another thing, man. Like, do you feel like. Damn, yours face should have made an album together.

[Beanie Sigel]

I wanted that so bad.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn, man. Cause that Mac and I think I.

[Beanie Sigel]

Wanted Zach and Brad before Kiss the Max. I wanted that. I used to, bro. I used to. Yo, this is crazy. You remember Cisco, the drink?

[Memphis Bleak]

Drink? Yeah. Apple. Yeah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Rest in peace to my man, Skinny Toots. We used to drink Cisco and listen to Scarface before we used to go out Robbie.

[Memphis Bleak]

God damn. Y' all was on some real drill. You talking about. The drill is bucket. Y' all was drilling before drill. That was drilling gun that. Like, allegedly.

[Beanie Sigel]

But we was doing it for the money.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Beanie Sigel]

They killing just to kill.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, cuz, they killing just because said, yo, you pussy on Facebook and 35 people liked it.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nah, they like killing. They in Philadelphia. It's sad, but you is only good as the last body.

[Memphis Bleak]

These young boys on some shit, they.

[Beanie Sigel]

Don'T even want no pussy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill, chill, chill. Cause I just heard a song where niggas said, half of these killers is virgins. And I'm like, facts.

[Beanie Sigel]

It can't be facts.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that's insane, man. Before, I wanted a gun, I wanted some pussy, dog. Yeah, straight up after the pussy. Then I knew I needed more money. So now I needed the gun to get more money.

[Beanie Sigel]

Shout out to fs to Bendy.

[Memphis Bleak]

You feel me? Everything goes together. First it was the. The pussy showed you you ain't got enough money. Then you needed the gun to get more money to get more. Like what? They going about it the wrong way. You feel me? It was a cycle to this my G. But.

[Beanie Sigel]

And it's so crazy, cuz once you in it, like, I. I got a youngie, he booked right now and talent. His name FS the Bender. We had. We had some conversations and he don't want to be. He don't want that part of it in his life. He don't want to be what he is. The bending. But he feel as though it's too late. He wanted he in his music. Oh, my God, his music is phenomenal. If he had a choice, he would do music all day, every day. But he's so afraid of being a rapper 24 7. Because he know his background. That's right. And he gonna get slipped. He won't, you know, get caught out there slipping. Being a rapper and not being on top is his business. And I think like, that's sad for him. And you know, I rock with young boy. His music is crazy, but he just caught up.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. No, I feel like shit. I'm with homie. Cause I always say if you want some criminal shit, like, when you a killer, being a rapper is one of the worst shit you want to be. Cause now your face is on the fly. They know where you gonna be at every week.

[Beanie Sigel]

I can't see the face of. And I ain't chase this drink. I feel sorry for those who did.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, do you. Looking back, do you feel like it's anything you left on the table that you or you just like, man, I live with no regrets. I did everything I needed to do.

[Beanie Sigel]

I mean, Nah, I have no regrets. Man, that's right. I have no regrets. I have no regrets because all my music come from a real place. So if any of that changed, then I wouldn't be the artist that people receive. The artists that people got have no regrets. There's a couple things. Things that I wish I would have done different, you know, Is it. You know, sometimes we wear our emotions on our sleeves. And that's one thing. One thing that I feel as though that out of anything that I ever did, I exposed family business to the world. And that. And that eat me up that I.

[Memphis Bleak]

I feel you for even admitting that, because I. You know, I know a lot of going on with y' all and Oskino and all that. I told.

[Beanie Sigel]

I ain't talking about that, because that's. That.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's free. My dog. We got my brothers. I love y'. All. Y' all got proud to me. All of y' all in my family, I grew up with all of y'.

[Jacob Goldstein]

All.

[Memphis Bleak]

All y' all was introduced at the same time. So I treat all of y' all the same. I never had a problem with none of y'.

[Beanie Sigel]

All.

[Memphis Bleak]

So when I said spoke to. Oh, that was my thing. It's like, yo, my. It's a thing to have a problem with. But when you address in personal.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And like family business, then it's a line that you going across that it's like, no point. It's no return. You know what I'm saying? And that's where I feel like us as brothers. Like, put it like this. I would never turn that camera on the address. Because you my brother. I get on 95 and drive to Philly before I do that. Yeah. I pick up that phone.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, we cool.

[Memphis Bleak]

I mean, I text. I don't give a if I gotta DM you or write you on Facebook.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

But all of those actions are gonna happen before I turn that on.

[Beanie Sigel]

Fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

So you know what I'm saying? And that's just my opinion. Cause y' all my brothers, and I feel like if a want to fight me for being real or telling you what I feel, then it. We gonna be wrong stumbling my.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yes.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like brothers do. And then when we done, you gonna understand what I'm saying.

[Beanie Sigel]

You almost fought before.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. Yo, I've even fought.

[Beanie Sigel]

You remember Hard Knock Life?

[Memphis Bleak]

We were shooting the intro to the Hard Knock Life. Yo, chill, baby. Yo, that was some real young boy shit. That nigga Jay was on some bullshit. Jay was instigating that day, too. Yeah, Jay was instigating. Cause Jay was with me. And this is back in the day, you know, when you first. The last thing y' all do is play with each other. Government.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

So that Jay was calling me my middle name. My middle name is Deshawn. So this bean's like, oh, oh, your name Deshawn.

[Beanie Sigel]

That wasn't it.

[Memphis Bleak]

What? What else?

[Beanie Sigel]

It was your last.

[Memphis Bleak]

My last name. Oh, yeah. Mr. Cox. Yo, this like, your name. Deep Malik. The. Ah.

[Beanie Sigel]

So in Philly, we say when you was younger, you know, getting. You know. Yeah, we getting caught. So, like, this last name cop. Like, you don't get no cop.

[Memphis Bleak]

I got so heated by. But, yo, not because you don't understand. As a shorty growing up in school, I had to fight for that every day.

[Beanie Sigel]

I know every day.

[Memphis Bleak]

So, like, when I first met you and you grow.

[Beanie Sigel]

Once I knew you was mad. Oh, I drilled it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that Jay was like, damn, y' all really? You really want to fight him for that? I'm like, yo, Jay, fight me. Yeah, we want to fight. I want the fight. I ain't going to lie.

[Beanie Sigel]

I remember two times you was.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that was it.

[Beanie Sigel]

That was it.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was. No, what else, Mac?

[Beanie Sigel]

State property. The movie. Yes.

[Memphis Bleak]

What happened?

[Beanie Sigel]

Remember they was ordering our food, our breakfast every morning.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I think, what? I ordered some pork shit.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I know I ordered something pork. I will order egg and cheese on.

[Memphis Bleak]

A biscuit with the bacon.

[Beanie Sigel]

No bacon.

[Memphis Bleak]

Uh huh.

[Beanie Sigel]

Egg and cheese. That's it. They keep bringing these bacon, egg and cheese joints. So I'm like, what the.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I remember.

[Beanie Sigel]

So we was on the bus. This the fourth day, we did it again. She bring the box in, I'm checking them. I just start throwing them joints out. Bleed like, nah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, you was throwing all that.

[Beanie Sigel]

Throwing all the biscuits at. I be like, I don't give a fuck. I drink bacon. Not today. I was slinging them joints.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I forgot about that. Yo, you said even with the Junior Bacon cheeseburgers from when I know, even going to Waffle House. Remember I used to get this shit smothered and covered. Yo, chill. This nigga like, bleep, yo. Not the chumps.

[Beanie Sigel]

Bleak. My man went to the Waffle House. Now, you know we can't eat nothing out the Waffle House but a waffle and some eggs. Everything else on the grill. I said, I know bleak ain't this one. So excuse me, ma', am, what was our order again? You ordered three eggs scrambled with cheese and a waffle. I said, but what did he order? He ordered steak with the waffle and he wanted hash Brown, covered in chunks. I said, what the fuck is covered in chunks, yo? Nah, El, it's hash browns with the gravy and chunks of ham on it. I said, he don't want that. He like, yes, the you do. It ain't like that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, my yo, we used to have so much smoke on talk, yo, these niggas would be like, no. Oh, you can't eat no pork three times. What happened?

[Beanie Sigel]

I remember one more other time. What we was at Amsterdam.

[Memphis Bleak]

What I do in Amsterdam.

[Beanie Sigel]

Remember they had the, the ride levers, they had these tricky ass color ride levers. The ride levers, they hadidas.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh.

[Beanie Sigel]

So I think I ordered like six pair. You ordered six pair? And you was like, no, I got so. And you was trying to get J a pair. I'm like, no, I'm getting these for my brother. Like, how many pair you get? I said, look, I'm getting these and I'm taking these home to my brother. You like, let me get two pair of them. That's whole. That's J side.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep, yep. I remember this.

[Beanie Sigel]

Nope, nah, nope. Squand my brother, he's like, you gon do that to the God? What I said to who? He was like, nah, you can't. I said, jay won't get these. Riley, you was hot.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yup. Now remember that? Yo, you know I said, still got me back of us in that smoke shop in Amsterdam. The first time we went together, you remember, we didn't have no backwoods. Remember we was smoking Snoop blunt raps.

[Beanie Sigel]

The first time, nigga, yeah. Cause look, when you go in, you had to push the button and then.

[Memphis Bleak]

The menu would light up.

[Beanie Sigel]

And the menu would light up.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, it's still like that in the Bulldog. Dang, my G, still with the menu.

[Beanie Sigel]

You push the button, the menu light up in Amsterdam.

[Memphis Bleak]

And we go to the Bulldog and light up. Yo, yo.

[Beanie Sigel]

I remember the first time we was walking. Remember I jumped because I didn't know the chicks in the window was real. Oh, yeah, Yup.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, going through. Yo, going through the red lights. Red light district, remember niggas trying to take crazy. Like, nah, you smoked so much in Amsterdam, when you came back, he stopped smoking.

[Beanie Sigel]

He stopped smoking.

[Memphis Bleak]

He stopped smoking. That's a fact. Stop smoking. We blew it down so much our first time in Amsterdam. We came on Egg of bean, said, I quit, I don't smoke no more. Like, why say, yo, we smoke too much, man. Like, I'm done. I'm not doing this shit no more.

[Beanie Sigel]

But guess what, Biggs? Biggs Really? Biggs gave me this shit called Heroine. It was weed. What the fuck? It was called Heroine.

[Memphis Bleak]

I never heard of that strand.

[Beanie Sigel]

You remember this, yo, that sent four people to the hospital? I smoked this. I'm in my crib, we chilling, smoking this. And I look over and I swore I seen a pool ball moving on the table. Yo, smoking this. I'm like, no, I put that down. Next day, I go to Chad west crib.

[Memphis Bleak]

Chad west on track, my G. I'm.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'm about to record. Gotta have it. So I bring some of the weed with me. So I. I tell. I roll up. Chad, he smoked, then smoking a weed, he smoked. I go in the booth to record my verse. So I record, I lay it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Boom.

[Beanie Sigel]

Chad, you got that? He keep telling me, no, do it again, do it again. So I'm like, all right, I'm going in, I'm doing. Come out, Chad, what's up? He was like, one more time. Put a little. So I come out the joint, out the booth. I look at Chad, I'm like, chad, what you mean? He stopped?

[Memphis Bleak]

Ain't never pressed record.

[Beanie Sigel]

He was smoking the weed and was.

[Memphis Bleak]

On the booth just listening to you, bro.

[Beanie Sigel]

And he said. He was like, yo, what you put in this weed? You rolled it. Yo, I ain't put nothing in it. I go home, I'm telling everybody, yo, Chad, it parked him. He's smoking again. I smoked this weed. Then something said, you know you weren't supposed to smoke that. So I put the L down. It was like, oh, my. Started beating fat. I'm like, damn. It was like, go upstairs and get in the shower. Get that off. I went upstairs. I'm listening to myself. Go upstairs. I get out this shower in my head, son was like, you know that ain't gonna work. Lay the down. So I lay down. I go downstairs, I tell my brother. I'm like, yo, y' all gotta take me to the hospital. So now they laughing at me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Jokes.

[Beanie Sigel]

They like you bugging. They laughing. I get to the hospital, they telling me I'm having an anxiety attack, it's off the weed. So I hide the weed, put in the shoe box, put in my crib. Rest in peace to Uncle Doc. Yo, Uncle Doc always rummaging in my closet. He felt the pack, found the pack, smoke the weed. Link, why was you there when Link, Uncle Doc, Doc had to go to Spittle.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill, Mac. Uncle Doc and Cousin Carlos to the hospital off heroin. No, it was two of them, Mac, not telling the whole story. It was heroine.

[Beanie Sigel]

And it was Another one called Hash Plant. Hash Plant? Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I don't know. Heroine, it was.

[Beanie Sigel]

Hash Plant.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was washing clothes. He was washing some of matt clothes and found it in his pocket. He felt like about 4 or $500. You know, Mac just throwing dirty clothes. He found 400, about 4 or $500.

[Beanie Sigel]

And the weed?

[Memphis Bleak]

He took the money, got smoked it. Hospital, yo. Kept the money, found the wind. Oh, no, that was a hospital, yo. Like I said, rest in peace, my.

[Beanie Sigel]

G. You know, like I said, I used to indulge in my leisure pleasures. So that was.

[Memphis Bleak]

I know, my nigga. You fell asleep on a Breakfast Club.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And hoe was hot at you, my nigga. I would never forget this day. That Hoe was so hot at this. That Charlamagne was saying, son, that be just kept saying no, no, like yo. But the no, Jay, like, yo, what's up with this nigga? I'm like, yo, J, that lit. We was out last night, baby.

[Beanie Sigel]

I remember, yo. I remember. I wanted to joy. I had the zoo. I was in dame office.

[Memphis Bleak]

You had your chair.

[Beanie Sigel]

All I remember is Roller telling Sadiq, don't wake that bear about his hibernation. He all right. Yep. Yo, that was.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was the day.

[Beanie Sigel]

But that was my thing. That was the thing between my mom, my sister. They used to argue over who was gonna wash my clothes.

[Memphis Bleak]

Wow. Cause they knew that bag was in there. That's right. Yo, listen, bringing up sis. I seen sis today, man. Yeah, she grown woman now.

[Beanie Sigel]

Remember?

[Memphis Bleak]

She was the little. Yo, bro. Beautiful, beautiful. Everybody grew up. Amazing, man. I seen your son in the city too. Not too long ago.

[Beanie Sigel]

Which one?

[Memphis Bleak]

Like about the oldest, right?

[Beanie Sigel]

Like about score.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, right. Like probably like about a year ago. He was up in New York partying with me. Became the word as least.

[Beanie Sigel]

Oh, that was Lee.

[Memphis Bleak]

New York, you know him and Mujah live in New York.

[Beanie Sigel]

That was Waleed Shakur. 30 something.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, no, it wasn't him then.

[Beanie Sigel]

Tall, dark skinned.

[Memphis Bleak]

He was short. He was short, brown skin, beard. Mudah.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, beard. Had to be Samir.

[Memphis Bleak]

Then it might have been your son. Cause he definitely was like, I'm Bean, son. And I'm like, oh, no. Yeah. He said, I'm Bean, son. He's like, bro, you know me, I'm Bean son. Used to be at the crib.

[Beanie Sigel]

Bleak.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I'm like, nigga, you. You a grown man. Don't matter. You beating something. Come on, you coming out.

[Beanie Sigel]

Don't matter.

[Memphis Bleak]

You said the right name. Let's go. Had that in the club with us all night. Made sure, he was good. Got home safe and all that, man. Word, yo, you put on and did so much for the city, for the culture. You feel like the culture don't give you the flowers you deserve.

[Beanie Sigel]

I don't care about that. For those who know, I can't eat flowers.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill. That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

I mean, I can't eat flowers when people say you're your flower. I don't want no flowers. Give me the check.

[Memphis Bleak]

I want the credit.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah, I don't want. I don't even want the credit. It is what it is. You know what I mean? My thing is, at the end of the day, we all gonna die. So when I go, I want people that I know and my kids. Nah, that's Max, son. That's Seed, son. You know who that is? That Seed, son.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

No, chill out. No, you ain't doing that. That's Seed, daughter. That's. See, nephew. That's. That's it. That's it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Then you know you did your job, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

You know, I could plant my own flowers.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill, chill, chill, my G. People.

[Beanie Sigel]

Say I want to give you flower special. Them flowers before.

[Memphis Bleak]

Before I let you. You know, we get back to the Santucci Pizza. The party. No grand opening. I just want to say, if this is the last time you ever do an interview, a podcast, anytime they hear you speak, is there any truth that you feel like somebody got misconstrued on that you want to correct it? One left people know about seeing.

[Beanie Sigel]

I think I said it. One thing that I. That I. If I had any regrets, And I hate that, cuz I know better. Wore my emotions on my sleeve, talked about family business to the public. That's enough, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, that's one thing I always carry with me.

[Beanie Sigel]

That. That's it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, bro, I just want. I don't say this because I be over here and y' all over there. I tell you this to your face. I tell Free this every day. I tell Chris Buck, I love y' all niggas. Y' all my brothers, bro. Like, even when the breakup, people would think, yo, he with Jay. He don't fuck my nigga. Where was I at?

[Beanie Sigel]

Right here, Philly, with niggas. Even.

[Memphis Bleak]

Every day.

[Beanie Sigel]

How many shows. We still do shows together. My kick it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Think about it. I'm in Philly every time. Yeah. This year, the way your brother hit me, yo, it's that time of year. Get, bro, you back. I'm like, hell, yeah, I'm back.

[Beanie Sigel]

You know you're coming for that turkey that bagged up turkey. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Thanksgiving, yo. Yeah, I'm gonna see this, man. That's right. Thanksgiving, Christmas, my free in the building freezer.

[Beanie Sigel]

Freezer slid.

[Memphis Bleak]

Dude pulling up on us. Icier than a motherfucker, nigga. What's up, my guy?

[Beanie Sigel]

Come on. No, I ain't going free.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's a chair. Come on. Come around this way. You sit here.

[Beanie Sigel]

I'll go right here.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, you sit here. Step over the wire, Free, you go right there.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yep. And blink, you in the middle.

[Memphis Bleak]

Freezer in the motherfucking building. This is the first time we got an intimate intermission with an extra guest in on the show. You know what I mean?

[Beanie Sigel]

Welcome, my brother Free to crash my interview.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up, right? Crash. And what's up, my guy?

[Beanie Sigel]

Like I crash that freestyle dances? No, hey, I just told him about that. Yeah, my G locked in that sense. What's up, my brother, man?

[Memphis Bleak]

What you was doing, man? Pulling up. Just moving around the city. Yeah, you gonna have to come through for the soft opening. That's what's up, man. Young Frieza in the building, man. You see my notes, dog? You see my notes? Chill. I was on my Stephen A. Yeah, Stephen A. Blizzle. You know what I'm saying? We in the building free. What's going on, man? You got anything you want to tell the people? Let them know what's coming out. What's new here with my brothers, man? Me and Max in here kicking it, right?

[Beanie Sigel]

Right?

[Memphis Bleak]

Come on. I've been hitting you, right? I've been chasing them down, right? I have my sneaks on. I'm just happy to be here. You know what I'm saying?

[Beanie Sigel]

Love, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

My brother, man. I appreciate you, bro. You know I love you, my brother. No matter what the go on in the public, people could read and look into these interviews and see what you see. But I want y' all to know, this is my family, man.

[Beanie Sigel]

This guy right here is the glue. Listen, for those who live on the Internet, all that.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Beanie Sigel]

It's one of the realest, humblest, honest person that you ever be. No, that's a fact, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Philadelphia, Freeway, the realest ever.

[Beanie Sigel]

Like, we got. Cause it's.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's a lot going on, man. And like y' all gotta know, man, free is the glue. Cause there's a lot of shit that go on in Philly. And one person I could call to make sure everything is straight Free. No matter if it's a problem with. Because what I had a couple of. Me and Gilly had a disagreement Free put us on the phone. Me and Beans had a disagreement. Free put us on the phone. Have a disagreement with traffic out here. Free gonna put me on the phone with them. You heard he's the glue and he makes your shit right. And I love you for that, my brother. Make sure we all good families stay together. And you know what this is, man? It's rock solid. And if we rock solid, you solid. And you my brother and this my family. So when you see them, you see Blizzard, you see the rock. It's rock solid.

[Beanie Sigel]

I just want my slice of the pie.

[Memphis Bleak]

Let's go, man. Saying two.

[Beanie Sigel]

Even one of these squares, even the triangles.

[Memphis Bleak]

Bring it in the pants.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah. Rock solid for life.

[Memphis Bleak]

Know it.

[Beanie Sigel]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

My guys, man. Let's go.

[Beanie Sigel]

Forget about it.

[Memphis Bleak]

For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding, flag them.

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[Beanie Sigel]

All.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Amazon Five Star Theater presents real customer reviews performed by Ed Helms. Tonight's review, Tactical jacket. I was living a simple life. Didn't get out much.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Then I bought this jacket and everything changed. Women came flocking to me from lands domestic and foreign on the 245 day sailboat voyage home. I was attacked by a shark. I knew it was the jacket he.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was after giving up the jacket in.

[Beanie Sigel]

Exchange for my life.

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[Memphis Bleak]

Get ready for your next TV obsession. All's Fair Starring Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts.

[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Leave a male dominated firm to start their own. Filled with scandalous secrets and shifting allegiances both in the courtroom and within their own ranks, these ladies know that lawyers are a girl's best friend.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Don't miss the two part season finale.

[Memphis Bleak]

Of All's Fair on December 9th on Hulu and Hulu on Disney. For bundle subscribers. Terms apply.

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Beanie Sigel]

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[Beanie Sigel]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Beanie Sigel]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Prepared by BlackRock Investments, LLC.

[Jacob Goldstein]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.