Big Face Gary | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

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Podcast Summary: ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Episode: Big Face Gary | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek
Release Date: November 11, 2025
Host: Memphis Bleek
Guest: Big Face Gary

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Episode Overview

On this candid episode of ROC Solid, Memphis Bleek sits down with Big Face Gary—legendary Harlem (Upper West Side) figure and one of the original architects of Roc-A-Fella Records’ heyday. Bleek and Gary go deep on the untold stories, hard truths, and lingering wounds from the Roc-A-Fella era. Their wide-ranging conversation touches on business lessons, brotherhood and division, personal reinvention, and the legacy of one of hip-hop’s most storied dynasties. Fans of hip-hop history, Roc-A-Fella, and candid talk among OGs will find this episode essential.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Reuniting: Squashing Old School Tension

• [04:36] Bleek and Gary reconnect for the first time since the label’s demise.
• They reminisce about how tensions inside Roc-A-Fella evolved over the years, often pitting "Harlem vs. Brooklyn" crews.
• Quote:
  "We started to become more defensive... but me and you always been cool as... like, always, my nigga."
  — Memphis Bleek [05:17]
• Big Face Gary reflects on being "the peacemaker," often mediating between Dame, Bleek, and the rest.

Life After Roc-A-Fella: Resilience & Reinvention

• Both men open up about their struggles and hustles after Roc-A-Fella folded—Gary working as a messenger, Bleek pouring himself into business ventures and family.
• They discuss fatherhood, personal growth, and the hustle required to adapt post-music industry.
• Quote:
  "It was no way to prepare, bro... when Rockefeller stopped for me, I felt like I had to wake the hustler in me up again."
  — Memphis Bleek [38:25]
• Gary shares vulnerability about unemployment, depression, and working his way back:
  "Rockefeller, you get unemployment for six months. 497 a week. I was struggling. I didn’t say that nobody... but I went and got a van and just became a messenger..."
  — Big Face Gary [39:33]

Roc-A-Fella Memories: Inside the Compound

• [06:16, 09:01, 16:38] Stories about life at Baseline Studios, the infamous “pause game,” jokes, and infamous sessions.
• They recall legendary sessions and anecdotes—like Dame calling Bleek’s first verse on “Just Fire" (with Cam) trash, which motivated Bleek to rewrite and improve.
• Quote:
  "In my mind, I was saying, I'mma write the most disrespectful shit you could say to a nigga in the street. And it's no way nigga gonna tell me they don't fuck with that."
  — Memphis Bleek [07:40]

The Bigs, Dame, & Hov Dynamic: Brotherhood, Business & Beef

• The conversation explores individual relationships with Kareem “Biggs” Burke, Dame Dash, and Jay-Z.
• Gary reveals friction and attempted reconciliations with Biggs ("I think we need a conversation, I'm gonna make up my business to make sure I call Biggs today or tomorrow." — [11:01]), and Bleek details why arguments “over beats” can be fixed unless they cross personal lines.
• Honest dialogue about Dame Dash—his intelligence, arrogance, and how “getting drunk with power” contributed to the split.
• Quote:
  "What goes up comes down... I always felt like he got drunk with power."
  — Memphis Bleek [29:46]

The Fall of Roc-A-Fella: Hard Truths & Regrets

• [31:25, 65:43] The breaking of Roc-A-Fella is compared to a magic trick gone wrong; no one saw it coming, and everyone was left to pick up the pieces.
• Debate about what truly broke the dynasty:
  • The introduction of Cam’ron as president and how it made others feel displaced.
  • Dame and Cam standing ten toes on controversial moves, fueling division.
  • Quote:
    "Cam should never thought he could be the president of Roc-A-Fella Records... As I know, I was there and I know how it made people feel."
    — Big Face Gary [66:10]

Industry Game: Podcasting, Business, and Not Holding Grudges

• [40:34, 61:52] Gary shares how building The Big Face Gary Show gave him new purpose; Bleek opens up about his business moves—restaurants, weed companies, barbershops, and why personal pride keeps him from asking even Jay for help.
• The duo talks podcasting hustle, platforms, the myth of "the plug," and building organically (YouTube, IHeart, Black Effect).
• Bleek gives motivational gems:
  "Getting money is not hard. You know what's hard? Keeping money."
  — Memphis Bleek [34:26]

Brotherhood, Loyalty & Legacy

• Stories about mutual support, loyalty (“I would never throw out your dirty laundry—my, that's Hov to me.” — Bleek [18:15]), and perceptions of wealth post-Roc-A-Fella.
• They debate cycles of division, maturity, and whether a true reunion of Jay and Dame could ever happen.
• Quote:
  "They don’t gotta be business partners. They don’t have to be best friends... But just to be cool, you know, because this shit that goes on on the Internet—my, I know it hurts Bleek, and it hurts me."
  — Big Face Gary [97:12]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Handling Criticism:
  "You know how it feels to tell a guy who his runs bled hot, smoked about a pound of weed, and you got to tell him, yo, that verse was horrible. Word up."
  — Big Face Gary [89:31]

• On Personal Growth:
  "Sometimes you gotta look in the mirror. I had a mild stroke... Then I went back to getting money. I said to myself, yo, Gary, you gotta stop drinking."
  — Big Face Gary [87:06]

• On the Industry:
  "I'm not a journalist... I had to get comfortable. And now in this space, bro... I feel like my personality shine and what I'm about is gonna shine through."
  — Memphis Bleek [83:40]

• On Pride and Self-Reliance:
  "I got kids. What I'm gonna tell my son—when you fucked up, ask somebody? That don't even make sense."
  — Memphis Bleek [33:59]

• Reciprocal Respect:
  "Just seeing you as a grown man. You've grown up. Developed to somebody special... and now this is who Bleek is."
  — Big Face Gary [94:43]

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Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• ROC reunion, peacemaking, early crew tensions: [04:36]–[07:21]
• Real talk on fatherhood, post-ROC struggles and getting back up: [05:00], [31:25], [39:33]
• The “Just Fire” Verse Story: [06:37]–[07:21]
• Biggs, Dame Dash, and Jay-Z reflections, conflict, and loyalty: [08:26], [10:37], [16:15], [29:46], [41:16]
• Debate about “who broke the ROC”—the truth about the split: [65:43]–[68:22]
• Money, business hustle, and podcasting game: [34:26], [40:34], [61:52], [83:40]
• Loyalty and the case for reconciliation: [18:15], [97:03]
• Honest assessment of Dame Dash, Jay-Z, and realities of power: [29:46], [48:27], [66:10]

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Tone & Final Takeaway

The episode delivers everything classic ROC Solid promises: raw, witty, vulnerable, and highly personal storytelling. Bleek and Gary keep it 100% authentic—no sugarcoating—while dropping wisdom and never shying from hard truths. Past beefs, legendary studio stories, and the current legacies of both men are balanced with heartfelt advice to the next generation.

If you want to understand the real inside story of Roc-A-Fella deep from the trenches, the dynamics of loyalty and division, and how legends rebuild after the dream, this episode is required listening.

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Follow Memphis Bleek’s ROC Solid for more exclusive hip-hop stories and industry game. Check out The Big Face Gary Show for more untold tales.

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“All I know is what I’ve been told and that a half-truth is a whole lie.”—Memphis Bleek [78:00]

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What up, y'? All? This your main man, Memphis Bleak, right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guides over at Drink Champs. Big whipping. Yeah, Memphis, I'm back at it. Notice the difference. Just more grown. Prezi, no stones. Yeah, y'. All. You already know what it is. Back with another exclusive Rock solid. You know what it is? The podcast. Your boy m greasy. And I always tell you, if you see a person sitting on this platform is one or two things, and this person right here is actually three. He was part of the rock. He helped build the rock. He's definitely a solid. And he my family. So that's, you know, that's what makes it a trifecta right there, bro. Let's welcome my guy, Big Face Gary, Legendary Harlem heavy hitter to the table.

[G]

Please get mad at me. I'm from. I'm from the Upper west side. My second home is Harlem. My crew.

[A]

You from Harlem? Riverdale, son.

[G]

Yeah. Yo, this is just crazy. I'm here with Bleak, man. I haven't seen bleak. I haven't seen Bleak since the label clothes, man.

[A]

Yo, that's what I'm saying, man. How life been since, like, we gonna go back into the past, but I want to catch up with you.

[G]

Well, Bleak, I've been blessed, man. Got crazy when the labor closed. I was having a daughter, man. You had a kid before me. My daughter was going to be born. My daughter's 19.

[A]

College. God bless.

[G]

Your son's 21. You have a daughter growing up. I'm fighting now. Things are finally starting to get better.

[A]

That's what's up.

[G]

And I'm really, really happy because I always liked you. And I thought you always liked me because you were young, not hating me. Your crew was so Brooklyn, you know, You're Brooklyn. Y' all think it used to Be rough, man.

[A]

Yeah, but we wasn't. You know what I think did that? When the. When the separation, it felt like it started to become Harlem against Brooklyn. So that's why on our side, we started to become more defensive. But me and you always been cool as. Like, always, my nigga. Like, every time I used to say certain things, me and Dame would get into our arguments and all of that. You was the one that'll come to the end, at the end of the convo and be like, but bleak. But bleak. It ain't got to be like that bleak. Like, y' all tripping. We family bleak. Nah, man. We gotta put this shit together, like. And I always respected that from you. So I'm glad you said that, because.

[G]

That'S how I felt.

[A]

Nah, definitely, bro. You fought for it. And, like, what was it like, A and R with us? Cause you dealt with all of us, man. We was fucking headaches.

[G]

Headaches. I didn't really do a lot of your music because you had the big homie. Hov. HOV was your backup. HOV was his A and R. HOV dealt with bleak. But I was Bleak's bleak. Nice. Bleak. Come on, come on. Let's get it. Let's get it.

[A]

I remember, yo, listen, niggas don't even know, like, the song we did with Cam the Just Fire.

[G]

Yes, yes.

[A]

Remember I wrote a first verse to that joint. And you the one who came to me and was like, yo, Dame said that shit is trash.

[G]

Oh, yeah, I remember that shit. Ron, answer the question. He did write that. Yes.

[A]

Yo, this nigga was like, yo, Dame said that shit is trash. I was like, face, man. Fuck out of here. Tell Dame come tell me that. Remember Dame came to the studio, and Dame was like, nah, bleep. That shit is trash, man. I think you could write a better verse than that, man. And I'm like, what? I went crazy on this shit. And I'm like, yo, I ain't gonna front. Y' all niggas had me so mad that night that I went back and rewrote the verse. And I thank y' all for that. Cause we would've never got the verse we got if y' all never said that to me. I'm laughing. Cause I remember that shit.

[G]

I was like, oh, be the sucker. They looking at me like, give me G. You need to go tell Bleak.

[D]

Word.

[G]

Yo, bro. Bleak 17 to telling his horrible. Yo, got Money Left is on this. His crew was with him. Yo, I said I got to do it.

[A]

Y. I was hot. My like, it ain't it Bleak. I was like, no way. Said, this ain't it. But then I rewrote it. I was like, yo, in my mind, I was saying, I'm gonna write the most disrespectful shit you could say to a nigga in the street. And it's no way nigga gonna tell me. They don't fuck with that. Yes, you did, baby.

[G]

And that's killed it. Yeah, Dame did appreciate that. I knew you was mad at me, but namely Luca Rousey from Godfather. Cause I do all this dirty work. Word up. So I used to go out of town, go all. Just all things. Shit I used to go do. I say, yo, man, this gonna kill me. But bleak. Please don't be mad, but I'm gonna tell the truth. And I used to be like that with his friend, his big homie.

[A]

That's right, man. Like your relationship with. You know, what was your rel. Individually, we gonna break it down.

[G]

Okay.

[A]

What was your relationship with Biggs?

[G]

Man, Biggs rest in peace.

[A]

No, Biggs ain't real.

[G]

Did you know his brother before he died?

[A]

Hell, yeah, man. We went to Japan.

[G]

You was good with Brock.

[A]

Hell, yeah, man. God bless Bob. That's my brother.

[G]

He was younger than me, but Biggs is. Biggs was young. So I could say now. Cause it's not.

[A]

They.

[G]

Biggs was young with a lot of money.

[A]

Hell yeah. Hell, yeah.

[G]

Biggs was like, 18, 19. Just had bread.

[A]

Bread.

[G]

So rock started, first of all, bleak. Before rock even existed. Bleak is we. All we did was snap and drink.

[A]

That's it.

[G]

Snap and drink.

[A]

That's it.

[G]

And they just kept talking about. That's when Jay was working. They was like, take Jake out of young nigga named Bleaky, Bring it along. And that's your first one song. Besides, you know the boss they done. That don't count. So then I said, yo, Biggs didn't want to be down. Biggie give a fuck about nothing. I know he didn't give a. About block, nothing. All Biggs cared about was bricks and drinking.

[A]

That's. That's why he got the name H. Yeah, yeah.

[G]

Bricks and money. So then we chilling. Chilling and bricks. This is my man. We just. I swear, all we used to do was drink and talk.

[A]

Yeah. Yo, y' all was the most snapping crew. Come around.

[G]

Too serious for me.

[A]

No, no, no. Yo, bro, that was because Biggs and Dane, y' all used to chew niggas up for everything. I remember I came around with the white army fatigue suit. That nigga Biggs first Biggs said to me, I was like, yo, fuck, are you the nurse for the army? Like. Like, you the nurse for the army. And I got the white fatigue. So then I get in. But Jay, Jay, like, nigga, they don't send the white. Where you fighting in the snow? Where you think they going? Yo, they was cutting me up, Jay threw my hat out the window.

[G]

J, don't even slap a while.

[A]

That's what all of y' all was the worst. Like, even if you. You had to pop tags, dame whole thing was, if you ain't popping tags, you a bum ass nigga. You ain't fly today. And y' all invented the pause game, like 100% that started from y' all crew. A hundred percent. Yes, it is.

[G]

So let me finish up. Biggs was just very quiet. If you don't know you, he don't with you. That's right, he don't with you. Don't ask him nothing, don't say nothing. He was very comfortable with me. I was my friend. He was cool with bleak. So my. I love Biggs, man. You know, but you know, Big, I gotta be honestly, I. Biggs grew up and he got to this day. Now me and Biggs has some controversy.

[A]

No way. I ain't know that, man. Come on.

[G]

I gotta keep. No, no, no, no. I think me and Biggs are still cool. I think we need a conversation. I'm gonna make up my business to make sure I call Biggs today or tomorrow.

[A]

That's a fact. Man, you childhood friends, and I always felt like, to me, my rule with my friends are if we never had physical altercation, you never slapped my kid, killed my dog, tried to fuck my wife. All we had was a verbal dispute, man. That can be fixed, bro. That's what I be telling some of these rappers. Nigga, all we had was an argument over beats.

[G]

You arguing for beats. Like when you seen your prom league, you was arguing for beats.

[A]

Think about it. When you dissing these niggas that you never even met, you never had a physical altercation with, that's basically what you're doing. It's just an argument over beats. He say this, you say this, he say that.

[G]

Oh, I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Like, so that's what I mean. Like, that type of shit can always be repaired. When it become violent and something happened to someone, then it's a little bit more to fix that. But so that relationship with Biggs can definitely fix that.

[G]

It'll be fixed and He's Nori's manager. I think he helps Nori.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

That's another reason why I said it's not that serious. Because I wouldn't be here. Yo, nothing to do with that.

[A]

Bringing up Nori. That's my fucking.

[G]

Oh, that's a crazy bro. That's a crazy motherfucker, right?

[A]

Yo, Nori, man, Nori set me up with you.

[G]

Oh, that's. Oh, yeah, I squashed that beat was great.

[A]

Yo, I'm in the crib, chilling, swatching football regular day phone ring. Nori, you know, this is when we was working on setting up the podcast. So I'm thinking he calling me, yo, the contract came in some type of good news. I answer the phone, that nigga said, yo, I got these n on the phone. I need you to hold me down. Click. All you hear is Dame and Big Face going in. Yo, yo, we let, let, let.

[G]

Yo, yo, I ain't saying no bad.

[A]

No, no, no. Nobody wasn't saying nothing crazy. But it. I wasn't ready. I was caught off guard and I'm like, yo, damn, Nor, you set me up. You don't even give me time to get ready, like, prepare me. Yo, I got these niggas on the phone. They coming at my head. It was nothing. But I was glad we had that phone call because you made my day.

[G]

Bleak. You don't understand how dame he was talking all crazy that I know he don't mean because he love you too. Y' all don't need to hear that. Nah, y' all ain't gonna hear. I'm gonna go round, figure the conversation. He was like, da blah, blah. Then I got them on the phone. Yo, I ain't gonna lie, Bleak. That's one of the biggest arguments that I never seen three motherfuckers argue for three hours like that. Y' all was going to war. That shit was a three hour argument. I know y' all be for hours.

[A]

I know you was saying your shit.

[G]

He was saying his fly shit words. That his shit. He went back, he went back, he went back. Yo, y' all niggas was going.

[A]

If that phone call was a was an episode, that shit would have went.

[G]

I swear to God, yo, I've never seen an argument like that, yo went at it, man. Other like I said, we made a trip. That's what he got mad at you. I don't know what you're talking about. He said recently you threw a cheap shot at him. What's wrong?

[A]

He said, we gonna talk about this, but it's because of the shit I probably said on Breakfast Club about beans. But it's kind of impossible to talk about beans without mentioning Dame. Even though I didn't want to mention him. And I had to, but I didn't mean to. But that wasn't about none of that. Dame didn't keep our truce neither. My G. Dame.

[G]

Cause I don't be. Hell, no, Dame.

[A]

I seen the interview. Dame. Sitting there with the cowboy mask on, the hat on, the little fly cowboy on the suede on the shoulders. And that nigga like this. Yeah. Bleep. Take 10 steps and draw.

[G]

Oh, he was giving you hell, too.

[A]

Yeah, but I ain't saying nothing.

[G]

Say nothing. That's mean, Dame. Dame's your big homie. Not on J level, but he's the big homie.

[A]

They a big homie like all of y'.

[G]

All.

[A]

Listen, y' all older than me. What y was a kid.

[G]

Yeah. What y' all did with you?

[A]

Bleaking.

[G]

That's what y' all supposed to do.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

No, but y' all went at it.

[A]

Yo, listen, that phone call was very needed, very necessary and needed, man, because I haven't spoken to you in years.

[G]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean. I haven't spoken to Dame in years, let alone all of us on the phone together hashing out differences, what people felt, what they thought, and, you know, clarifying a lot of shit. So I felt like a lot of things was answered on that call and that led us to be here.

[G]

He commented you the other day, though.

[A]

No. Yeah. He big me up and threw a shot.

[G]

That was crazy.

[A]

But how you big me up and threw a shot?

[G]

That's the Harlem thing. Don't worry about it, yo. That's the Harlem thing.

[A]

I ain't the brightest light in the room.

[G]

Yeah, that shit. Fuck me.

[A]

God damn. I couldn't even be a lightning bolt. Yo.

[G]

He said, OG Man, I can't front, man. I gotta really sat and talk as much. I fucking with bleed about shit. This, this, this and that. And I took a fee with writing your rhymes. Remember that?

[A]

Yes.

[G]

I took off for you.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

Because I will admit that, people, I will say this. Jay helped you with certain things, but so fucking what? But you wrecked your rhymes.

[A]

Everybody got help.

[G]

He's the best rapper of all time.

[A]

Everybody got help. Like if Jay had a hook, Jay had an idea. If Jay saw a vision, he's gonna give it to you.

[G]

And Jay used to get help from not writing J. Ron, but a vision. How he gonna write this rhyme?

[A]

Yo, Hip hop was very important.

[G]

What you think, young Chris? What you think? What you think, Beans?

[A]

That's right. He went at you. That nigga used to call me Yo Bleak. I got this verse. Check it out.

[G]

Big jcg. What you think, Face?

[A]

I said, yo, I don't like it.

[G]

Jay, you could do better. Exactly.

[A]

Everybody took pointers, got helped. It was a thing we were in baseline. To me, baseline was a compound. It was the Carter, bro. We were really in there chopping that work and distributing them bricks on the block, like so we was flowing. So if somebody had a hook, give me that hook. If you had four bars, give me those bars. If I got four bars for you, take those like. We was up, trying to keep it going, keep the work moving. It wasn't about, yo, I write for this. He write for me. I help this one. He help him. He do. It was never that. So when I sing, Beans and Dame get on there and be like, yeah, J wrote all bleak. So it's like, dang. J wrote myth. Bleak is J roll round here. J wrote. What you think of that? J wrote do my J rose. That's your J wrote like, dang, I won't support. You sat there, made me rewrite a verse. That's one of my hardest verses.

[G]

I started the calculation. It's like indirect CEO G go, yeah. And you wrote the verse. So I never.

[A]

Yeah. So I knew Dame, like, it became a point. And what made me back to our point about the conversation and the truth. What made me stick to the truth, to our truths and what we said that we wasn't gonna take shots at each other. Because I look at this podcasting world and I look at this media world now that the artist is into, is that you say something, they say something, you say something. It's the never ending story, bro. And I ain't with that.

[G]

Yeah, you gotta get better.

[A]

Like, I ain't with that. I ain't on. I don't want a platform dragging down nobody. No, no, none of my. Especially nobody that I consider the bro. I'm not gonna be on here throwing out your. Your dirty laundry. My. That's ho to me.

[G]

Yes, sir.

[A]

You know what I mean. The same principles raised me on. I'm watching them not stand on. And that is disappointing. You like a bro.

[G]

Yeah, it was tough, man.

[A]

Like.

[G]

Like, I get mad sometimes.

[A]

Like, Jay don't talking. Never.

[G]

I do get mad because I know he got some good to say, but Jay is very quiet, and that's how he works.

[A]

And he's calculating calculator he's calculating. He's not gonna. You're never gonna know where he feels.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

Unless you buy the album.

[G]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He speaks all his through the music, bro.

[A]

That's. That's J therapy to me. That's my opinion.

[G]

For you to say that you made my day. I don't drink no more and I'm not drinking. But for you to say, Jay, so that Gary's family, yo, that makes my heart, man. I thought Jay hated him.

[A]

I don't know. I just felt.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

What did you feel?

[G]

You did talk to him. I ain't seen him so long.

[A]

What did you ever do?

[G]

I stopped rapping like the best MC of all time because of the real best mc. I like Nas. I died for Nas.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

And I told Jay Nas is better than him.

[A]

You lied. Yeah.

[G]

Jay got better and Jay just. It's over. I told Jay, you can't fuck with that. Andrew. Look at this, man. He destroyed the house, man.

[A]

Don't start, yo.

[G]

Yo, I'm saying it. That's how I feel. I love Nas. Nas is the best of all five of them. But, yo, I'm sorry. He did it to us, yo. How many sessions mean you sat? Jay just comes in and just talk, stash. Yeah. What can I do, Bleak? What can I do?

[A]

Yo, it was crazy.

[G]

Can I live where I'm from?

[A]

But face, like, your relationship with Dame, like you and Dame grew up together, correct?

[G]

Like 18, 19.

[A]

Damn.

[G]

Real good friends through Rel, Mac. You know Rel?

[A]

Yeah. Yes, yes.

[G]

And that's why I couldn't believe this. Back and forth with them. Dame has. I've never really seen Dame fucked up. I can say this now. Statue of the chase is over. I used to go to Dame. Perhaps I get work on the regular.

[A]

That's right. But this narrative that Dame is broke.

[G]

Niggas don't please Bleak help me with that.

[A]

They don't understand Dame. They know the difference between broke broke and rich broke.

[G]

I know Dame long time. Bleak is. Uncle Bleak has more money than me by far.

[A]

Yo, chill, man.

[G]

But. But Dame, I'm glad. I'mma say to y'. All. Y' all, too. Dame is. Has no problems.

[A]

That's right, man.

[G]

He just smart.

[A]

You seen this view, yo? You seen this view? He posted his view.

[G]

Come on, man. I talk to them every day, man. Oh, all he do is front of me, man. He say the same thing. Yo, G, man, he was mad at you. How the niggas telling me about my money, man? House, Versace. What the These niggas crazy. I got a Versace sweatsuit on, man. This thing's crazy.

[A]

Yo, yo, yo, I remember when they first got the Crimson Palisades, man.

[G]

Oh, yeah, that's. What about an Alpine?

[A]

That's the first crib. Oh, my God.

[G]

You could tell him nothing.

[A]

Winning them cribs was. I'm still inspired by those cribs. Like, what, the.

[G]

J didn't buy a house yet that time?

[A]

Nope.

[G]

Jay didn't buy this apartment.

[A]

No, in that apartment. Yo, you know how I was supposed to get that crib?

[G]

Oh, J crib.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

Why you ain't get it?

[A]

J. Brown, man.

[G]

He bought it.

[A]

Yo, yo, listen.

[G]

Oh, man.

[A]

Jay like this, yo. Bleak Eye. Yo, you know I got the crib. You know, I'm about to move out. Ah, I don't want the crib. I'mma give it to you.

[G]

Just pay the bill, whatever it is.

[A]

Yeah, whatever. Remember, it was paid off. All I had to pay was the insurance. I mean, the taxes. It was paid off. So he was just gonna give it to me. And then I'm like, all right, cool. Just let me know when, you know, pack my shit up, get the keys and go. Like a week later, I got a call, was like, yo, know I love you, right, little bro? It's like, yeah. Why? What's up? What happened? Nigga's like, I don't love you more than $4 million, though.

[G]

That's Jake. That sounds like.

[A]

I think it was like Jay Brown made a deal you can't compete with. It was just going given to you. I made four. I was like, oh, nah, I can't say nothing. So every time I see J. Brown to this day, I tell him, yo, dog, you got my crib.

[G]

He still got it. Yeah, he don't live there all the time.

[A]

Probably renting it out, man. Probably getting $5,000 a week on that because that worth this run back there, Ron.

[G]

That crib.

[A]

Stupid, stupid, stupid. Movie theaters. Yeah, two stores. Dang.

[G]

Crib was stupid. I could at least say that that's how his Dane was paying fifteen hundred dollars a month mortgage.

[A]

Yep.

[G]

And actually it was stupid, stupid, stupid.

[A]

1500.

[G]

I remember that because he told me, this is $15 a month, man. That's when he moved to the Black Door. And I got mad at.

[A]

So, yeah, yo, Dame had mad cribs. The Black Door.

[G]

That's why me, please. I mean, Bleak is talking, yo. Black Dogs is a big.

[A]

Yo, one bedroom, yo.

[G]

No, I say 40 of these rooms.

[A]

Word up. Insane. The Black Door. Remember the Crib in London London.

[G]

So me and Bleak are crazy to listen to y' all say Dame is broke. Y' all out of your mind.

[A]

Out of your mind, bro Dam been chewing for years.

[G]

So Bleak. Yeah, so the day when y' all talked, I was so happy. You made my day. When he took cheap shots, I said, yo, come on Bleak, my man, man, I gotta give him a little. He's a big mama. But you always say Dame's the big homie. He showed you always he said, got you I of deals. You can't do nothing.

[A]

Nothing bad about Dame ever.

[B]

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[A]

Or wherever you get your podcast. My thing with Dang always been what I thought. My opinion is, I just thought Dame got drunk with power. I always felt like that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he got drunk with power. And it just. Because this gang, bro, this shit, what.

[G]

Goes up comes now.

[A]

Not only that, this is like this, like heroin, bro. The same way you see a heroin addict chase that high, I feel like these entrepreneurs, entertainers, rappers, CEOs, bosses that once had that high, they chase that just like a heroin addict. To me, I feel like it's the same thing. They just not strung out. They just, you know, got a better appearance. But I agree with you. It almost look like the same feeling, like the same thirst, you know?

[G]

It's funny you say that, because, like, I look at Dame like, jay's your man. I look at Jay as like, Ax Ron. I don't give a fuck about rocker Jay. Damon's my man.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

Is Damon an asshole? I will say yes.

[A]

Yo, we all are.

[G]

I'm ass New Yorkers, man. Okay? I got ways.

[A]

We New Yorkers, man. We all are.

[G]

We got ways.

[A]

When the doctor says a boy, it's gonna be an asshole. Yeah.

[G]

Cause I'm gonna.

[A]

I know.

[G]

I got some asshole ways, too, but, Blake, it's good that you know. It's just good to know that, you know, that Dame's okay.

[A]

Yeah, of course, man. But my thing is, right with D, I always felt like the rap, we was the strongest crew. We was, bro. That shit. I feel like, you know the magic trick when the glass is on the table and he pulled the tablecloth off and the glasses are still just standing there like nothing happened. That's how I feel. Like, what happened with us with Rockefeller? Like, it felt like the tablecloth just was yanked from under our feet. And there was nothing none of us can do. But I saw it coming. And I used to try to. I used to try to warn these niggas.

[G]

Were you ready? Bleed.

[A]

No. There was no way to come. There was no way to prepare.

[G]

I was broke as shit. I was having a kid.

[A]

I was. It was no way to prepare, bro.

[G]

I didn't see it coming. I thought we was never gonna end.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[G]

It was no way.

[A]

We were spending money like.

[G]

Well, Bleak. You were spending everybody spending money.

[A]

Yo, Bleak.

[G]

Dame Biggs, everybody.

[A]

Yo, Beans had an alligator.

[G]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bit the shit out of me. Ali yo, chill. Ali bit me.

[A]

You lying.

[G]

Everybody knows that story.

[A]

Ali beat me.

[G]

Bean was going to jail, and I came to his house to make sure to see him before last. I'm playing with it. I'm drunk as shit, but I'm like on my 10. 40. I'm just gonna owe 40 a week.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[G]

Oh, e, you used to be smashing. You know me, Blink. I used to be fucked up. I still. Still was a good guy. If I was.

[A]

That's right up.

[G]

Yo, yo, G. I ain't feed him in like a month. I ain't fe him why I said that Ain't don't do nothing to me, man. IG being like this. That bit the out of me.

[A]

You lying bit me, man. That. Yes. Yeah, Beans was wild.

[G]

Yeah, Beans was a wild. I tell beans all if beans Bleak. Bleak almost went platinum. You were like this close.

[A]

I remember.

[G]

850, 860.

[A]

All gold. All gold.

[G]

All go right that close. That's that close right there. Yeah.

[A]

Black Bronze.

[G]

Favorite song you ever did. I think was too was come of age. Oh, I don't think I'll do that Bleak because you was really. That's when you don't even have no money. Thinking about Jersey.

[A]

That's why I spent that, like, in my life.

[G]

Depends. Jersey in one car. You think that's all you think about? Getting out of Jersey?

[A]

Getting out of. Yeah.

[G]

Yo, you was talking that focus. You was focusing. So I'm like. I was bugging. I was like, yo, what the are we gonna do? I was mad at Dane. I was mad at everybody.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[G]

I was mad at you.

[A]

Nori say that. He always say that, man. Big face. Like, man. I think during the breakup, I think big face pause took it the hardest out of everybody, bro. I ain't got.

[G]

I ain't had back. Yeah, man, I still got ways to go, but I'm back a little.

[A]

You know, everybody had to reinvent.

[G]

You said something. I can't tell on the phone that you told Jay Dame that you went through do.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

Jay always gonna be my adversary.

[A]

Like I told him. I hope I never see the money. I hope he live forever, bro. I don't want my now in the will. Yeah. I appreciate it. That's love.

[G]

No. People take it as if Jay is going to make sure you are right now.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't need. I don't want him to. I'm a man, bro. When I. If I. God forbid, if something physically happened to me to where I'm unable to. To provide for my Family, then yes. I'mma break that glass in case emergence. As long as these hands, fingers, toes, and everything you do work.

[G]

You gonna work, bro.

[A]

I ain't gonna never cry to no man and tell like pleading, I'm going out here and get it. I got kids. What I'm gonna tell my son when you fucked up. Act somebody like it's. That don't even make sense.

[G]

This podcast is good, man, for me and bleak because I didn't even know that I'm thinking my bleak. Good.

[A]

Jake, bro, I was born in a. I always gotta remind niggas that I was born broke. So getting money. 78. Getting money.

[G]

I was born 70.

[A]

Yeah. Getting money always been a priority, and it's never been. It's. You know what it is? Like, a lot of people look at getting money like it's a hard task. Getting money is not hard. You know what's hard? Keeping money.

[G]

You still spend. You still going.

[A]

No, I spend. But you know what I spend on businesses, bro, you do pieces here, pieces there, pieces there. So when it's time to go buy, Rollie, go upgrade the ch. This company bought that, you know what I'm saying? Like I was telling you about the business account, bro, I got about 10 different business accounts under 10 different businesses. Like the weed company, different accounts. I got restaurants accounts, weed company accounts, podcast accounts, regular business accounts for my personal business, like real estate business accounts. Like, bro, the profile, the portfolio is diversified. I just bought a barbershop when I came here to New York. York. Right in Jersey. So you know what I mean?

[G]

Okay.

[A]

Say cheese. Barbershop real soon, man. Okay. Like, that's what I spin on now. Because I don't want my son and I don't want my daughter to ever feel like they gotta do things that they never. They gotta bend the rules to make it. Cause I bent them enough for them.

[G]

You just want them to get out of college and get a job and.

[A]

Whatever you'd like to do, do like my son. I don't even. I don't even care if they go to college, bro. Like. Like high school to me. Cool. I want my kids to be business owners, not employees.

[G]

I do, too. I do, too.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like school. School don't raise business owners. They. They teach you how to be an employee.

[G]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And that's just real. It's not bad. Some people ain't made to be a boss.

[G]

I'm saying this. No one knows this. That's. That's why I. I need to come to Jay's first chicken. Jay's no Jay's gonna be. Could be. Always be. Okay, okay. He said that. But.

[A]

Yeah, but back to what you said, like, I believe my opinion. That's why I'm still here. That's why with me. Because they know like, oh, no want no around. You gotta keep to. Yo, bro, that I need $10 my got 20 today. I need a honey right now. How long you gonna have them around you?

[G]

Yeah, that's not. Yeah, you're right.

[A]

I want producers around me. Not who just ask me.

[G]

I ain't think he was broke anyway. But I just hearing you talk about what you're. What you've done, you have business. You taught me something. So you're doing okay?

[A]

Hell yeah, bro. I got my daughter. My daughter want to go on trips, baby. She just came from Korea. Japan.

[G]

When you got your first bands, I was.

[A]

Oh, I was hyped.

[G]

The coup. The coup.

[A]

Got my shit delivered in front of Rockefeller. Goddamn. They pulled my shit off the truck.

[G]

Ron's first band.

[A]

I thought I was that dance. Yeah, I thought I was.

[G]

That I can say I seen Bleak speak. Come up with his cards and all that.

[A]

I lost it all too. I came up. I lost it all and I got it. That's why to me, man, my wife was a gift from God, man.

[G]

Yeah. Because she's seen her on Instagram.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

She's opposite of you.

[A]

Yes. She's your hood.

[G]

You're from Brooklyn. She's very clean.

[A]

Yeah. She the one who instilled I said in the song on my album that I was living, but she told me how to live. Live. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like. And. And. And sometimes I think Rockefeller, we. We made so much money and we was running so long that the hustler in me lie dormant. I put him to sleep because was coming so easy. Pause. You know what I mean? Just go to Baseline. The check come. Go to Rock. Go to Rockefeller. The check come leave both of those places do a show to check this. It was checks everywhere we went. Bleak.

[G]

You're right. I was walk with Jay. I'm a bigger guy. I lost a lot of weight. But Jeep, you're a big face. Don't let no one take this hat. I think I said, no, I'm winning because that's my man.

[A]

That's right. Tonight, 3,000.

[G]

I said, what the. If that's a lot. I. I took that.

[A]

Yo, yo, I'm telling you, it was just money flowing around, bro. So when Rockefeller stopped for me, I felt like I Had to wake the hustler in me up again. It was no more looking out for cuz. You know all those walkthroughs. Yeah, I got do it for you, bro. Give me 500. Give me 2,000. I pull up, it's nothing. Nah, I ain't leaving my crib. I don't not it just now. You're not doing that then or now you. That's why you didn't see me doing shows so much like that, bro. Because out here running around doing shows for 5,000. Let me tell you something. I'm from the streets. I'm from the same place you from. You hit a in the head. That 5,000 can't get you a lawyer or bail you out.

[G]

So I give you more than that.

[A]

So it's like you're doing it for free.

[G]

So you coming off real money.

[A]

That's it. Or I'm cool. I stay home.

[G]

Mind your business. I'm good.

[A]

I'm good.

[G]

All right. I respect that.

[A]

That's just me, man. So after Rockefeller, what was your motivation to get back up in.

[G]

Oh, you're gonna be mad. My daughter was born. I was popped, stopped. So if you want to laugh, Rockefeller, you get unemployment for six months. 497 a week.

[A]

Damn.

[G]

I was struggling. I didn't say that nobody. Like I stayed home. I wasn't fresh. I stayed home. Fortunately, my mom. My mom still alive.

[E]

Okay.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

I just.

[G]

I can't rely. I just. I was sad. I didn't really have my baby mother. We talked about her on disregard. I love her. She raised my daughter, but she was too cheap. Shot shots at me, man.

[A]

Yeah, I got those.

[G]

I'm not gonna name them. She threw something.

[A]

You just mad your career going down here. She threw cheap shots.

[G]

How you smoke? I was drinking.

[A]

No way.

[G]

Opposite way. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

So it was bad and bleak then I believe I went and got a van and I just became a messenger and started working my way back up. If you don't know, I didn't do nothing in music for 15 years. Everybody.

[A]

I feel you.

[G]

Everybody. I didn't say fuck you. I didn't say you didn't do nothing.

[A]

No, no. But I feel you. I was. I was on the same. The same way everybody.

[G]

All I knew. Take care of my daughter. Find a way.

[A]

That's right. Found a way.

[G]

Bleak. So what's bad bleak Then in 20, I was working with him. My man right here. We got real guy became good friends at a messenger company and he never knew nothing. I had a yellow van. Bleak I used to get my work and go work, work, and yo, yo, I'm cold.

[A]

What the.

[G]

Yo, you big face, man.

[A]

How the are you?

[G]

I said, what? I'm Gary. I'm trying to survive.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[G]

And he ended up. And then life goes on, right? I worked and bleak. I said one day the pandemic came. And bleak. I said to myself, all right, I'm not mad at nobody no more. I was mad at everybody. I had no reason to be mad at Jay. No reason mad at Biggs. I was just mad because I wasn't smart enough to know things.

[A]

And I felt that I wasn't.

[G]

Things end, man.

[A]

I felt like I wasn't old enough.

[G]

To realize things end bleak now, you know. And I listened to your age like last week. I can't believe you're 47.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

I can't believe that shit I seen. You was so young to me, Nick. Grown, grown ass.

[A]

That's right, yo. No, no, bullshit.

[G]

You a grown man. Ho.

[A]

Be seeing me now. That nigga be like, yo, man, you really. I really raised you, man. I took you from the hood. You was 14 years old. Niggas 47.

[G]

Like, yeah, you're really old.

[A]

Even Emory Biggs all them nig when he was 16. Word up is insane.

[G]

I knew all the. I knew Biggs was a young boy rich how it feels. I didn't care when a way Biggs had way more money than me.

[A]

Yo, ask Biggs, yo, how it felt when you made your first million. He said, from music or from the street?

[G]

That's Biggs.

[A]

It's like, which answer you want first?

[G]

And he dropped. And Biggs is a cheap at that day. $7 and go. Gee, I. He stopped at the bank and put the $7 in the bank.

[A]

Yo, yo, yo. That's how he had that million.

[C]

Yeah.

[G]

He put that $7 in the bank.

[A]

48 laws of. 48 laws of brownies.

[G]

Yeah, the brown temp, the beef and broccoli. He wear that bleak with some bullshit shorts. And we'd hang every day. And not knowing this got a whole bunch of money. Next step is I just started podcasting a little bleep. I was a little. I wasn't shy. I was. I was mad. I wasn't mad no more.

[A]

And become him.

[G]

I got 30,000 subscribers. That's what's up the Big Face Gary Show.

[A]

That's what's up to the big Face. Yeah, well. Well, now you do it over FaceTime though, right? Or like disrespect me.

[G]

I'm Your man, man. I've stream yard, man.

[A]

I go hard.

[G]

That's just official. Got nice. Everything is. Yeah, I got the studio.

[A]

I got everything.

[G]

YouTube, every rib league.

[A]

I know. But what I'm saying, I've seen you. Your interviews. You be doing a lot, like calling. That's what I mean. Like, lives on YouTube. All right, that's what I was talking about. Not like a FaceTime. Not like a FaceTime interview.

[G]

And I'm gonna keep throwing this in bleak face, I believe. I don't care if you don't like. I don't have what you have, Lee. But I'm okay. I'm doing my show.

[A]

Yo, I just found this spot. Don't let this fool you.

[G]

No, but I.

[A]

We only been here two episodes now.

[G]

This is good.

[A]

And yo, you know how I found.

[G]

This spot only too, man.

[A]

I felt the spot because of do say my God, Dren Star. I called my. My man Fred C. From Vegas because we've been winging it out here in New York.

[G]

Oh, you just go whatever.

[A]

Yeah. Wherever the artist found a place, I found. I think I found a home now here because. And it came from my bro, Drinkstar from Doucet. I called him. I'm like, yo, you got a spot. He like, yeah, I come down here, come to find out the guy who owned the spot is my bro Armando, who was down with Radu, who we started the clothing line. I am.

[G]

I. Oh, word. This is his spot.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

Oh, that's crazy.

[A]

Insane. My g. That's crazy. Word up and see how it all ties back together. You.

[F]

We all.

[G]

It all clicked at the same time.

[A]

So don't let this fool you. We just got in here. Comfortable.

[G]

Comfortable. I feel good here.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

I got the big Face Gary Show. The big Face Gary show we do out there. I go live every other day whenever I feel like it. When y' all crazy podcasters like you who got lil ways say crazy shit. I seen the Shay Shay show.

[A]

Yeah, I was chilling. I was chilling. I ain't throw no shots at nobody. I'm cool. I don't want no beef.

[G]

Yeah. It's like I was calling. Yeah, man, big beat. My man, man. But he stayed throwing cheap shot. We made a truce, right, Gary? Yeah, Dane.

[A]

But I threw a shot at Dame on.

[G]

No, not on Shay. Not on Shay Shay.

[A]

That's. What about Overall.

[G]

He said that shot you told me you said, you probably was wrong.

[A]

That was on the Breakfast Club he took.

[G]

Yeah, that one. That was on the Breakfast Club.

[A]

But Dame been shooting like a wild.

[G]

Cowboy Right now, Bleak is going to stop.

[A]

He's like, they truth.

[G]

They made the truth.

[A]

Him and Cam all right. And I hope so.

[G]

And you. And I think watching you and him.

[A]

Because I think that yo, yo, you. I'm.

[G]

Y' all grew up, but I'mma keep it a hundred bleak. That was shocked me. I felt y' all should have been. I felt yo shit hard. Ask harder questions. And Cam should have went harder. Y' all niggas was like, real cool. Like, yo grew up together. Nah. Give the world what they want to hear. I'm telling you why I feel belief.

[A]

No, no, no. I respect that. I respect that. But my thing. I think Dame went crazy when he saw me and Cam piece it up and have a smooth, cool conversation. I think Dame realized, like, at that moment, like, damn.

[G]

Yeah, that might make him chill.

[A]

Damn. Like, what the fuck? Everybody could get back cool. But, like, what about me?

[G]

You know, we waiting for it. We waiting for the big homie. You told me Bleak let him chill.

[A]

We gonna wait me. Shit. Anytime he ready to pull up, he know I tell him all the time, hey, doors always open. You wanna come holla at the young God?

[G]

Me and my man Ron sitting right there.

[A]

You wanna holler at the young God, pull up.

[G]

Cause y' all motherfuckers is. Dame is like your uncle. Dame's your uncle, man. Yeah.

[A]

Yo, I wish I could get the time to holla at Dame, but, you know, I just gotta make sure the coast is clear on my side. Cause it's a lot of things. No, no, no, please.

[G]

You need to see the Internet. You'll wake up in the morning and your YouTube will be a black. Yeah, homie. Big homie. I'm gonna teach my little nephew don't.

[A]

Play yo your black.

[G]

Yeah, because he's very powerful. He's my friend, but he's very powerful. You're doing right. Let that is gonna heal some way somehow.

[A]

I would never do that. But how does it feel for you to see a man just black? Cause he black on everybody at a point now he's cool. If he was black, then everybody Dame is Dame.

[G]

I don't even know what to tell y'.

[A]

All.

[G]

I knew Dame before Rockefeller, so I know how Dame is. This is Dame. But Bleak. I will say y' all hard on him. All right. We told you he ain't broke. But Dame's done for me. He's giving me stuff. And I was self working for a shelter out of jail. Remember? I did a little.

[A]

Yep, yep, yep.

[G]

I came out and accident like you bleak. I'm a man's man, living with my mom, buying a fallout of Bacardi, putting in a Coca Cola bottle and drinking my. And hanging out with y' all who had way more money than me. One day I asked Jay for $20.

[A]

Jay said, that's it.

[G]

That's all I want. You talking about he ain't giving to him. Give me $100.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

He'll never give it to him. Jay's a real.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

So my point is, I was like. So I stuck in that Dame, he's. You gotta know Dame. He's a good brother. First of all, Dame has diabetes. One everybody knows.

[A]

Yes, yes. Dame used to take the shot in.

[G]

Front of a. Dame ain't shy about it.

[A]

Who was in there that like this? Hey, what up? Right in the middle of the meeting. You want the album to drop? What day we got you, man. Don't worry about it.

[G]

Dame don't play straight up. But one thing about Dame. Bleak will say this. He's very intelligent. He's not. He's very smart. Super smart. Dame is just super arrogant. And that's a Harlem.

[A]

That's.

[G]

Yes, but he's arrogant and he's smart, so he's dangerous. It's hard, Bleak, like you said, you got to know Dame. I love Dame. I'm loyal to Dame. I was working the show her. I had nothing. I wasn't poor because, you know, my mom wasn't poor. She worked hard. I was living my mom's. And Dame just told me one day, how much you get paid a week? Y' all may laugh. I get. Hang with y', all, bleak. 250 a week. Dame laugh. I'm not lying to y'.

[A]

All.

[G]

About 45 minutes on the floor. Then he finally got up. He said, man, you gonna work me for a thousand? What do you. What we do? I don't know, man. I ain't got no job for you. I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars a week because you my man. This come with me. This is ridiculous. I said, all right. It I work for. And then. Then I didn't have no money, but them was super fresh. I had no money to buy clothes, so what am I going. I had jewelry and I was getting money, but I got locked up. I pounded my jewelry and said. I came to Dame said, yo, I want to get some. Give me the wholesale. Guess what the. I said, why I love him. You think I'm going? He called his. His crew. Yo, Gab, Big Face, I need a box center his house every Month I had so much Rockefeller, I was giving shit away. Like you bleak. Y' all niggas had so much rock. I gave it away.

[A]

Yeah. I was giving boxing. Yeah.

[G]

It was too much. It was too much. It was too much.

[A]

Yeah. Every week.

[E]

Yeah.

[G]

Dame was giving everybody. So. So Blake. My thing is Dame is tough to know and tough to deal with. And he's getting older than when you get older, you get stuck in your ways.

[A]

But I love him.

[G]

I stick with him and I wait. That's all I can say.

[A]

I wait like I'm right. Don't matter.

[G]

That's my bro. What you do with Jay, you can't see until. Jay never got you before.

[A]

Oh, you just over decisions about music. Yeah.

[G]

You just. No, you never.

[A]

I don't get in in the middle of with them. I stay in my place.

[G]

No, I mean with you, Jay. No. I don't get in their business.

[A]

I say like I could say I get mad at certain things that I might feel he overlooked and not paid attention to.

[G]

But personal shit, I'm like that with Dame. I don't give it to none of that.

[A]

Nah, I don't like also.

[G]

Okay, so you like me. I really don't get and please. Oh, you know Dame fucks with me too. I'm being a good nigga who don't never say nothing to him. And he's trying to destroy me. Yo, Snapping on my crib bleak. I'm paying my rent surviving right now and he ain't helping which I don't need but he's snapping on my crib.

[B]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

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[E]

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[D]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled Do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.

[E]

Talking about health in a different way.

[D]

It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.

[E]

What our health says about us and the way we're living.

[D]

Like our episode where we look at.

[E]

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[D]

How preventable is type 2?

[E]

Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

[D]

Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible. But like you don't even know.

[E]

You don't know, you don't know. It's going to be a fun ride.

[D]

So tune in, listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[F]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[A]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy.

[F]

A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[E]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[F]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[A]

I did not know her and I.

[G]

Did not kill her or rape or.

[D]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[B]

That y' all said.

[A]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[F]

From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[A]

America, y' all better wake the hell up.

[G]

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[F]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[G]

May 24, 1990. A pipe bomb explodes in the front.

[A]

Seat of environmental activist Judy Berry's car.

[G]

I knew it was a bomb the.

[C]

Second that it exploded.

[A]

I felt it rip through me with.

[C]

Just a force more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe.

[G]

In season two of Rip Current, we ask who tried to kill Judy Berry and why? She received desperately threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing.

[E]

The men and women who were hurt.

[A]

Had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods.

[D]

The timber industry, I mean, it was.

[B]

The number one industry in the area.

[D]

But more than it was the culture.

[G]

It was the way of life. I think that this is a deliberate.

[A]

Attempt to sabotage our movement.

[G]

Episodes of rip current season two are available now listen on the iHeartRadio app.

[A]

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[G]

Yo, Lee, I'm s Tovi right now. David's fucking. He's never in my house right now. What you like that? How you like that? You don't even. My man. Not one time. The motherfucker say, yo, let me. Let me send you something. And something that's the same is.

[A]

How did him and Nori have a fallout? I thought everything was fam with him and Nori.

[G]

Nori don't give him Nori and give him the plug. That's one of the main thing.

[A]

I know you said Nori was a gatekeeper.

[G]

No, he won't give him the plug.

[A]

Yeah, Nori a gatekeeper.

[G]

The plug.

[A]

Like, no, don't let you get a big dog.

[G]

You plug newer. You don't give. And I ain't gonna front. Y' all get mad at me.

[A]

I give the plug.

[G]

But I know what the problem is with why y' all don't give him a but you ain't gonna say this because your name is so smart. His mouth is filthy.

[A]

Give him the plug.

[G]

He said don't Give him the plug. None of y' all say no call whatever, whatever. He connects this.

[A]

Yo, he argue with the plug. He said inside of the plug.

[G]

That's the problem, yo.

[A]

He sat right in front of the plug and told the plug, damn, I'm putting this out to the world.

[G]

It's all right.

[A]

But he sat in front of the plug. He called the plug gay.

[G]

We have nothing against gay people, y'. All. No, I'm hoping you are a little older than you. We have nothing against gay people.

[A]

When you're not. No, listen, listen. Homophobic. None of that runs in my system. Have family members. Yeah, on both sides, bro. On both sides. Men and women.

[G]

It is what it is.

[A]

And I love them like. Yeah, yeah, regular family. He argue with the plug.

[G]

Okay? That's his beef, man.

[A]

So give you the plug. Bleak.

[G]

Don't give the plug. Don't give the plug.

[A]

Cam.

[G]

Nori don't give.

[A]

Nor.

[G]

Nori didn't give him the plug.

[A]

So that's why he mad at Nori. Because Nori ain't give him the plug nor a give him the plug.

[G]

Plug. I think that's really the issue. He didn't. Has not given him the plug. And Dame wanted the plug. And I guess Dame away. And when we did that thing that argued for three hours, he called me your things, big face. Dame is human. He said, Damon's human. He said, he's cool. He's cool. So that's, I think, was to be the plug. You said you give the plug. He don't want to get a plug, man.

[A]

He right next to the plug. He argue with the plug. He dissed the plug. They on the Internet, beefing. I don't think he even know it's the plug.

[G]

You know, he. You know everything. You know, he compares evidence to the plug. You know, he compares everything to the drug.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't think he know he got.

[G]

He got the Kinect. He got the coke, the keys. He won't give me the Kinect, man.

[A]

Yo, this game is crazy because him and the Kinect, who give it all the work away, boatloads of it are on the Internet. Beefing.

[G]

Yes. That's how Dave is like crazy motherfuckers.

[A]

He arguing with Pablo and out here looking for him.

[G]

Yeah, yeah, you're bugging. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.

[A]

It don't make no sense.

[G]

Not when you want to. You're going to say, oh, you funny. I'm not arguing with the plug.

[A]

No.

[G]

What you need, Pablo?

[A]

Once I found out this certain somebody was Pablo. Hey, dog, you need somebody whacked? I got some Brooklyn for you.

[G]

We stupid.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, yo, anybody ever short you, you call me.

[G]

Yeah, call you. Because that's what it's gonna do. My main thing, I may be wrong. Dame wanted the plug, and he feel Norique was Revolt. He's there.

[A]

Oh, I don't got the Revolt plug.

[G]

Well, I don't really. Well, why don't you tell the world what you're plugging?

[A]

I thought the plug for the platform, the podcast, everything. No, I'm thinking the Revolt plug. Revolt ain't the podcast. They. The they.

[G]

They're feeling.

[A]

Yeah, they're the three portion of the podcast plug. But they're not the plug plug. They not the plug plug. See, even looking at the wrong plug.

[G]

You teaching me because I. You threw me because I'm thinking revolt. All this.

[A]

No, man, you out to revolt mine.

[G]

I thought Revolt did all this shit, yo. I mean, Nori is big in Revolt. Cam's Revolt, Nori's Revolt.

[A]

But that's after. After they got their platform launched and they got the following. Then Revolt came and said, you know what? Let me give you this bag. Cause we want to put your show on my network.

[G]

So you gotta put in the work first.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

They don't launch pad. You ain't no. Yo, there is no launch pad.

[G]

So I'm gonna hit you. Malik, you're putting the work. If this your money, you fucking besides.

[A]

Doucet, nigga, Doucet ain't even give me a check.

[G]

No, I mean that they'll give it to. Cause you know, I just bought this.

[A]

Bottle just for this show.

[G]

But you're not gonna send me Oxy bottles. You send me bottles out your pocket.

[A]

I needed it right now. No, I needed it right now. I can't wait for a messenger. We shooting.

[G]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

I'm gonna tell you, yo, face, we ain't got nobody the messenger.

[G]

You thought I was still drinking alcohol.

[A]

Yeah. So I got the bottle for you. I thought we was gonna get lit.

[G]

We ain't doing that no more.

[A]

No, I respect that, and I love that about you. Because, you know, it's a lot of people out here who deal with demons who can't shake.

[G]

I'm not.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? So.

[G]

Yo, Bleak.

[A]

So. But no, this is.

[G]

This is how Bleak said, I'm working to get to the plug.

[A]

You see the room is red. Yeah, we in the red.

[G]

And bleak. I feel kind of good Bleak. Because I was. I'd be Getting mad like, I know Bleak. I know. So major. But Bleak said, nah, G, you gotta work your way up for Revolt sake. Let's do something.

[A]

Yes. I'm not even on Revolt.

[G]

I thought you was. You schooled me, Nori.

[A]

Twice.

[G]

Nori got something going.

[A]

You know how I've been on Revolt? Cause I did Drink Champs and I did Cam's show. Cam was on my show.

[G]

I've seen.

[A]

I remember that shit ain't revoked nowhere. That shit just voting on the YouTube, that poll voting.

[G]

Basically saying, no, you got the vote. You gotta get your weight up.

[A]

Yeah. Versus YouTube, you know? Then it's like, I heart the Plug. I heart Black Effect. You know what I mean? Get your followers, your subscribers, your downloads weekly on your podcast. That's what dictate what network want to holla at you. Me, you talk. HBO might holl at Blizzle. Then what you gonna say? I'm holding the plug. You cheating.

[G]

Bleep is your rapper. You over the XR.

[A]

How about VH1 come at me and be like, hey, we want to run your show. It's the commercials of love and hip hop.

[G]

You're right.

[A]

They the plug.

[G]

But bleep, I'm here for you. Kind of cheating. BLEEP because you're a rapper. And people say, people look at his, too. I ain't go front and I'll be true. The world knows now you're Jay's man. People don't know BLEEP how. I stand on my own, man. He's my man. I stand on my own. But listen, he has two cribs. I stand on my shoe.

[A]

I'm not cheating. Yo, bro, listen, Nori, I told you my wife is like a blessing in disguise, right?

[G]

Okay.

[A]

I look at Nori in the same light, bro, because even though I'm doing my thing, I'm coasting. I'm over here investing in different businesses, making music just for the fun of it. Not like it pays my bills or anything.

[G]

Iran, just for the fun of it. He's an old nigga like me. He don't need to be rapping hard.

[A]

But Nori. Nori convinced me to do this.

[G]

Oh, he did?

[A]

I didn't. Yo, bro, I told him the other day, if I was him, I would have gave up on me. You understand that? Like, if I tell you something, your face. I gotta wait for you to do this. You know, you could come up, feed your fam, and you like, nah, I ain't with that bleak. All right, cool. I'm gonna give you one more Shot your face. I'm telling you, my. This shit might work.

[E]

Work.

[A]

You. You playing and you like. Nah, I'm not come. I'm telling you, this is me. That might be it. Yo, he don't want to do it. I'm cool. Nori was like, no, you're gonna do. I don't know. I don't care.

[G]

You're gonna win. Bleak.

[A]

So that was convinced. You made for this, bro. I didn't. What he saw in me, I didn't see in myself.

[G]

Well, I'm here. I was. I'm gonna give you my, man. I don't like. I didn't like the way you podcast either. So I'm sitting with you because I feel that you're very smart. But you. You put a B boy style that the world don't need to see all the time. You know what I'm saying? No, not bleak. You bugging smart.

[A]

You see my part, my real.

[G]

No, no, no, let me finish. Now that I'm sitting with you, talking to you, absorbing you, this is who.

[A]

You got to be. Yeah. This is me. My always been.

[G]

No, no, I said wrong. Am I lying? I said that. I'm back. I'm saying I'm wrong. This was a noise. I know you're smarter than that. This is who you got to be.

[A]

Yes, this is me, bro.

[G]

This is who you got to be.

[A]

Yes, my real talk. My like. Because even in the rock. The bad days. Even with dipset face. Even with that.

[G]

Yeah, that was rough times, man.

[A]

You ain't never seen me slander them like that, bro. I wanted. I wanted this to work. I was the like, damn. We. We had something brewing and blew it up. Because Ego. Yeah, because Harlem, Brooklyn.

[G]

Harlem Brooklyn, bro.

[A]

Don't even go there. No, my. When the last time Dan was in Harlem, when the last time Jay was in Brooklyn.

[G]

Yeah, I know. When you come to Harlem in Brooklyn.

[A]

I just was in Harlem last night. I was with Jim Jones.

[G]

You ain't call me until I told you. Come on, man. My man told you to come here. You're bleak. I know you. Yo, all I got is love in Harlem. Ain't nothing happening in Harlem.

[A]

I know. I was vamping, though. You wanted to vamp last night.

[G]

There was vaping.

[A]

You mean I was vamping? No, I was with Jim Jones. Vamped last night. Life.

[G]

Oh, you was running around with them.

[A]

We was vamping. That's his crew. Vamp life.

[G]

Oh, that's what you did? The show last night?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[G]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Artist to artist. And. And we did a collab that's my brother. You know, we was talking hash this out. And just, you know, speaking about the what ifs. And it's like I always think about that face. Because we had the strongest crew in the world, bro. You had State Property. You had J. Biggs and Dame. You had Dipset. Just when they first started brewing. Then I was there. Then you had my crew get low running with us. Like, bro, we had an unstoppable crew. Everything in the game would have been domino effect. Fell right into the lap of Rockefeller.

[G]

You wanna know what went wrong? You wanna know what went wrong? What my opinion. What really, really, really, really, really went wrong?

[A]

Yeah. I wanna hear from your side, my perspective.

[G]

I saw. I know your crew. I know Dean's crew and I know Jay. I know Big the biggest mistake he made. And I don't care what comes after. I don't think anything does. Just how I feel. Cam should never thought he could be the president of Rockefeller Records.

[A]

That's a fact.

[G]

And not because of you. Because as I know, I was there and I know how it made people feel.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

He was wrong for that. He might have not meant it to come out this way. It was wrong, but.

[A]

But it's so whack that it took 30 years to say it. Yeah. To admit that, like, Dame stood on it, bro. When Jay came home, it was saying, hovie's home. Dame stood on it. He didn't backtrack it and was like, yo, he was bugging. He went on it. These my. I'm with them.

[G]

Regretted. He said so you. He said that he regrets it.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? So we, in hindsight, he kind of fueled the lie.

[G]

Yo. Bleak, you're right. And Damon, he regrets.

[A]

That's a fact.

[G]

He should have said when he came home. Straight up, you're not going to be the fucking president. I mean, I was thinking of doing something.

[A]

You know what's so ill about that, though? Because I even said it on my part with Cam. Damon J had a conversation about that. I put these two men on the phone before Jay even came home. And the words from Dame on that phone was things were going to be, this was bullshit. It's nothing. But when Jay came home, it was opposite.

[G]

So it was with Jay. Didn't have the conversation. What did Jay say?

[A]

Jay was on some. Yo, I don't know what's going on, but fix it. And Dane was on some. All right, I'm on it. Don't worry. By the time you get home, gonna be Right. And Jay got home and niggas stood ten toes down on it. Jackhammer.

[G]

And he never corrected it.

[A]

No, that's.

[G]

That's okay.

[A]

Okay. So that's what did it, bro. It drove the knife. In my opinion, it split up a family. We had a family of Harlem and Brooklyn together. And because niggas stood ten toes on that, it separated our family and it became that side versus this side where niggas fired all the employees. That was from Brooklyn, Remember? It was only Harlem employees in Rockefeller at the coming in the days. Because everybody damn. Fire. Jay Hop fired.

[G]

He hired Lenny. Well, he didn't fire. Well, yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

He took Colleen.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

He took all the crew. Bottom line is that, man. I'm with you, man. I was like, yo, what the is going on? And that's when I just thought Bleak didn't like me no more.

[A]

Nah.

[G]

Everybody was so tense. Beans is crew, you know, like crazy.

[A]

And I always felt like them like me. I ain't gonna lie. I never said it, but I said to you because we family.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

And I just put it, brushed it off. Like, ah, maybe I'm bugging. I ain't going look too. But I always felt State Property played both sides of the fence with that.

[G]

Really?

[A]

Yes, all of them. I always felt that because would be over here with us, then you would hear albums and is on it.

[G]

That's for you.

[A]

So. And niggas never like. And I felt like if it wasn't nothing, then you should have been more vocal on trying to piece it up.

[G]

That's what you. You ain't all of us. Me, I didn't know what my place was. I knew. I want to tell Joj.

[A]

Fix that shit, please. But, yeah, nobody was. No. It was only me and you.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

That's it.

[G]

You right.

[A]

Me from our side, me from outside, and you from their side. That's it.

[G]

They would never be brought broke good every bad, yo. Cause I got the money, Jay got the mouth. They're gonna hate Dame.

[A]

Everybody was looking at me. Everybody was looking at me like bleak out my face with that you talking about. Dame said we gonna be millionaires. You don't hear this. And I used to be looking at.

[G]

Like, it takes time.

[A]

Okay. You think gonna find the million and give it to you Cool. If that's what you believe. You believe that. Because I know I ain't giving no. I find the millions. I'm not giving it to none of my homies. We could live together. I. I use some bread. But I'm not giving you the Million, then me go find my million. No, it don't work that way, bro. Like, and I used to tell that gonna give you something they're not. Remember Dame retired? Told they gonna retire like hoe when we was in the garden.

[G]

He did.

[A]

So anybody retired like that. When I said none of us is gonna retire like that, Dame looked at me like bleak. You ain't with the team? No, I just was with reality. None of us was that lit. That's it.

[G]

Yo, it's hot. But you took my money. Hot.

[A]

My. No, nobody ain't in no position to throw no walk away concert in the Apollo, let alone the guard in.

[G]

Yeah, the rich people. The rich people were Jay, Dame and Big.

[A]

That's it.

[G]

Yeah, they were rich.

[A]

Yeah, that's it, bro. Like, everybody else was just getting by, man.

[G]

That's why we got eight on his team. Who from the hood. He gotta make sure they survive it. Beans got his people, so he got to take care of them. He gotta make sure they okay. And so Bleak, you're absolutely right, man.

[A]

Yo, I'm telling you, no one remembers.

[G]

That was only me. And Bleak really was like, yo, yo.

[A]

What the is going on, man?

[G]

I cried.

[A]

Yo, how can we fix this, bro?

[G]

I don't know.

[A]

Yo, listen, the day Lenny has called me and told me, yo, Bleak, I got to go to Philly, man. I got to take they release papers and yo, bro, I couldn't believe it. It felt like my world ended.

[G]

That was. I remember that day. I don't know. I remember that day. That day.

[A]

And you know I got my release papers too.

[G]

You, you was damn jam.

[A]

No more Rockefeller, no more nothing.

[G]

Oh, you got the official release?

[A]

Yes, the whole Rockefeller was gone. That's why when Jay said the song I don't get dropped, I dropped the label. Like, hold on, dog, you dissing me too? My I with you. Why you gonna on me, dog? I was in that blender.

[G]

I didn't know you got that paperwork. Yeah, you was up the whole day, right?

[A]

I got. I was devastated, bro. That's why I never dropped another album. Because my thing was that day, I was raised in a system and I was comfortable in a system. And I never wanted to learn another system. That it was like, fuck it.

[G]

And that's how I was a Rockefeller.

[A]

That's all I'm living my career just gonna die.

[G]

And that's how I there.

[A]

That's all I do. That's all I like. Dang. Like Bobby Dash, Karlene, Chaka, all of us, Dara, Omi, we love we had.

[G]

A fan like all dressed fresh every day.

[A]

You kidding me?

[G]

Feeling good. It was a good situation, man.

[A]

Yo, bro, it felt like going to Rockefeller from. From the. The build from the office on what? West street in the Village somewhere. Then we went to Varick. Then we went to 50th street, bro. Every single office felt like family. And it felt like the family was growing and getting bigger and getting bigger. And then we got Dipset. It felt like, yeah, the family we really. We going now. We got Mop, we got Philly.

[G]

Everything was in your pocket, man.

[A]

Yo, bro. And then n just got got drunk with power and ego and couldn't just admit their wrongs. That's my opinion, bro. And now it took 30 years for to say yo, I was wiling. That's a slap. He think camp slapped him in the face with what he said. That's a slap in the face that every artist that was on Rockefeller, including.

[G]

Me because I hurt bleep. Like you had some money saved up. I was up.

[A]

Money saved up. No, don't. This is what you're not hearing where you look good.

[G]

Good.

[A]

Listen, it look good. I'm from the projects, bro. Number one thing a project know how to do is get fly. You ain't gonna never know if in the project's up. If you know a in the project's us, cuz he getting high.

[G]

Yeah but if he.

[A]

If he's sane in focus appearance, you will never know what's in that man. Bank. Bank account. Not a Brooklyn.

[G]

Let me refute you wasn't you. You wasn't up, but you wasn't what I thought I was like, yo, what's but bleak? I'm gonna keep real until you schooled me. I thought bleak good. Jay got him. He said gee, are you crazy?

[A]

He do but I don't go there.

[G]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You didn't go to him.

[A]

Yeah, I don't go there for that. I have kids, big face. Like if I was a single, if I was out here just winging it, no kids, then fuck it. Who knows where my pride would be.

[G]

Yeah, but right now you can't.

[A]

But the man that I was raised to be and come up in the prince principles that they taught me from them Biggs dang J B high tata. You ever seen them ask anybody for help? The created a wave on their own because they don't act. So how the could a like me do it and sit back and wait? Come on my. This is real life, bro. Them kids need Pampers and food every day.

[G]

All your kids are the parents minds out of it.

[A]

But yeah but my my work.

[B]

What a matchup we got y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

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[A]

Mmm.

[B]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[D]

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[F]

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[F]

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[A]

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[B]

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[F]

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[G]

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[F]

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[A]

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[A]

My daughter just told me she want to do karate, gymnastics, ballet and volleyball. I'm looking at her like I'm about to move back to the projects. You can do all that in front of the building?

[G]

Yeah, that's, that's what that cost. That cost. That should cost. That's what we did. Straight up said we did it.

[A]

Yeah, do that right in front of the building. You ain't got to go nowhere.

[G]

But because of you, you're gonna fight, you're gonna find a way and you're gonna pay for the.

[A]

That's a fact.

[G]

That's what we do.

[A]

That's, that's what a parent does. That's what a man does. You, you, we here to be a provider. I just had this conversation with my son like probably a year ago. The was sleep on the couch and I'm like, yo, you better enjoy it. It's two o'clock in the afternoon. You sleeping. Life is great. Enjoy it. Because this one time you start making money. You gotta make money till you die. You're the provider, nigga. Remember that. You're the man. There is no couch to go to and lay on. So when mommy done with it and you decide to be like this, my lady, you're the provider. She can help, but you're the provider. And that's a man's job. It's not to be sitting there and watch your man get money to be like, oh, my man came up, he gonna hold me down. That's some fucking. Might as well g get on a pole if you thinking that. Not to make you laugh out of here, man.

[G]

Not to make you laugh. So I moved on and I said this. I, I took time and time and I, I, I know the podcast game now. I can get better. I'm learning from stuff that he taught me. And I know the I got a personality.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

They not take that from.

[A]

That's right. They can't, they can't duplicate you.

[G]

I used to get mad. Why ain't calling me for a deal. I'm big face. You ain't got a deal.

[A]

No.

[G]

So so my I'm not on revolt. No, no, but I thought you were. No, I'm not going to sit in lock. I thought you, you were.

[A]

Hell no. Hopefully you speaking it into existence.

[G]

I thought you were.

[A]

So if they listen, it's in that check.

[G]

Your system is right because Cam built the up Denver.

[A]

Yes, you're right. Yes. You got to build the file, and then you got to look at who's sitting there, bro. You big face. Yes. We never going to take nothing away from that. That's Cameron and Mace, man. Yeah. It's not. Forget that, bro.

[G]

I don't want to look. You can. You're the same status they have. So you cool. But I might need a thank you. Thank you. You're welcome.

[A]

You're welcome. No, they are but that two entities.

[G]

But you chose whatever you're rob me. I like to do my shows on my own. But I'm starting to stop.

[A]

Yo. You know I'm gonna be honest.

[G]

I'm gonna stop being stubborn.

[A]

I didn't. I didn't want to do it by myself. I was nervous. I'm telling you.

[G]

Yeah, you can tell you getting better. I think you real. Come on me because when I see you, you don't seem to me bro.

[A]

No, I got. I got way better.

[G]

Just do you.

[A]

Yeah. Now I'm way better. I'm comfortable now. I'm comfortable. Like now. Now I'm comfortable doing this face. I'm not gonna stunt you right now. This was way uncomfortable for me. I remember telling Nori I don't give a what thought process was making their album. Yo, how you felt today? Like, how you doing, my brother?

[G]

Like, this is what I'm saying.

[A]

I'm not a journalist. My. Like. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I had to get comfortable. And now in this space, bro. Yeah. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I feel like my personality shine and what I'm about is gonna shine through. And I just want niggas to respect the platform and be inspired.

[G]

Bro.

[A]

We ain't up here trying to kick dirt.

[G]

Inspired beak man motherfucking like, he's gonna pass out yesterday.

[A]

Yo. Chill. Yo.

[G]

Yo. I don't give a. I say what I want to say. I can't be mad at me. I'm not mad at him.

[A]

No, it.

[G]

No. No. Sami.

[A]

Bleak Talk Bink didn't even. A lot of. A lot of people. Yo. And I'm gonna be honest with you and I'm gonna speak on that. When the audio dropped the next day, a lot of guys I feel like since the down. I won't say the downfall of music since they decline individually. Like all of us, everybody from our era on a little bit of a slump trying to get back to where they once were. Right? People forget how much people love you. And I was one of the. I didn't I had no clue, bro. I'm in the crib. You start. You start reading the hate comments more than the love comments. So it sticks out more like, I remember a time looking at my Twitter, and I could see, man, Memphis Bleak ain't shit. More than I could see. Yo, that shit you did was dope. The hate stood out more to me. And Bink called me and was like, yo, bro, I thank you for doing the interview. You brought me out this slump. You know, I was in the crib. I had no clue. Niggas fuck with me. Me, I needed this vibe back. So when you see the video, that's him still in his element thinking, you know, ain't. They don't know, bro. And then you sitting here with me, you don't know if I'm gonna bring up some. You did back in the day on Some. Because we live in the journalistic world where everything is clickbait and every want to know, yo, so I know what you did last summer set up.

[G]

If you do, you bring it. I bring it up. I decided we'll talk about it.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? So sitting here with me, me, they don't know if Bleak gonna be like.

[G]

Yo, my element was like, yes, he didn't know. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

That's fair, you know? Cause remember, we've been through personal with Bing.

[G]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I could have brought up certain. But I'm not gonna throw homie under the bus, and I'm not gonna force him to.

[G]

Yeah, yeah. Just a lot of. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it either.

[A]

So his rules, his principles and his guidelines.

[G]

That's why I take a little long. But you got how many you got? Like 80? Hundred? You're a big boy.

[A]

Subscribers to the pod now. I'm about 100,000 on YouTube.

[G]

I got 30. I'm grateful for 30. You have a hundred. And you're a rapper who's well known, who's so reckless. And people fucked with you.

[A]

And I'm glad they fuck with me doing this, bro. Cause this I always tell people. Jay always told me, when the world see your personality bleak, your life gonna change.

[G]

Yeah, well, I'm be honest with you. I felt you could have been more. But now that I see you, I'm here.

[A]

Yeah, this is the.

[G]

This is you. This is you.

[A]

Yes, my G. Like, I'm.

[G]

I thought you was more.

[A]

I give the. The interviewee what they give me. The interviewer, like, I can't be hype. And you sitting there all calm, and this Just don't look right.

[G]

I just enjoy talking to you.

[A]

I'm looking at you know what I'm saying?

[G]

I'm like, really bugging out how beak is a grown, grown ass man right now. You look good, bro.

[A]

My G. Back at you. See what I saw you. I'm like, face, you lost mad weight. Looking good, my nigga.

[G]

Yo, Bleak, man, I was drinking, man. I was just drinking, man. I had a lot of going on, man.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[G]

Sometimes you got. You gotta look in the mirror. I had a mild stroke.

[A]

No way, man.

[G]

I was fucked up for a month and a half. Then I went back to getting money. I said to myself, yo, Gary, you gotta stop drinking.

[A]

I stopped, man. That's good, man. God bless, bro.

[G]

Thanks, Bleak. I'm looking at this shit like, yo, man, I gotta change. I don't want to be rich. I don't care about money. Bleak, again, I don't put you on blast. You got more than me. I don't give a fuck. You got more money than me.

[A]

I don't care about money.

[G]

I don't think you do. Cause I don't care about it' cause.

[A]

Money, though, it don't make you happy. I think I was the happiest in life when I was broke. I had more money on the Hard Knock Life tour than the Liquid Sprite tour. And I was caked up by the Sprite tour. Hard Knock Life tour, I couldn't eat without per diem.

[G]

Sprite tour. You was good. Yeah. Yeah. So then, now that I'm not drinking, I'm looking at God. Look at how you grew up. Two kids and you. 10 businesses. And I got 30,000 subscribers. You got a hundred. You're wrong. We ain't doing that bad.

[A]

No, fuck no, nigga. You doing fucking great.

[G]

We doing actually great.

[A]

30,000. Yo, I ain't gonna say name. I went and checked, cuz.

[G]

30,000.

[A]

Like I was going to say before. Before I started this, I thought I needed a co host. Cuz I felt like, you know, I'm an artist. I don't. I don't do this journalist. I'mma holl at a few journalists. And, you know, I reached out to a couple people and they shot me down like, nah, Bleak, I don't want to do the show with you. You did that to you. Word up on God. I ain't going to say no names because it's all good. I wish him the best.

[G]

You're looking good.

[A]

But I go check what they into. Got 15,000 subscribers. 12,000. So you say you had 30. 30.

[G]

30.

[A]

You're doing better than. Put it like this. You doing better than some niggas who got a degree for this.

[G]

I have no idea.

[A]

All right.

[G]

All right. Thanks, Bleak.

[A]

Remember that?

[G]

I gotta say this. I got. I gotta say this. Mad Blocks got Nick. Nick got brothers on the block with nicknames. Big Face guy was named by Bob, who was killed in 03. But bleak, I have a nickname that means something because of Jay Z, Biggs, and Dame.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

Tell y' all thank you again. That means a lot to me.

[A]

Yo, bro, you.

[G]

You a lot, lot, lot.

[A]

A lot of.

[G]

I'm a peacemaker.

[A]

And I just want to say to you, right, you probably thought ain't ain't with you. Cause you was definitely the voice of Dame. Like, you was the. Yo, Dame ain't like some. Yo Dame. Yo, yo, Bleak, I gotta tell you.

[G]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Dame said them beats on them last three records, ain't it? You better. You better tell. Just Blaze. Go back to the drawing board. Kanye better give you something. What the.

[G]

You know how it feels to tell a guy who his runs bled hot, smoked about a pound of weed, and you got to tell him, yo, that verse was horrible. Word up.

[C]

I don't think it's horrible.

[G]

I would've. You told. Told me the CEO of the company. CEO.

[A]

Yep.

[G]

Said, yo, I hate to say he is the boss.

[A]

That's right. He was your boss.

[G]

Your man, Jay's your boss. Everybody here.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

He don't like the lyrics.

[A]

He was the boss. And he used to be on me. Like, yo, you gotta. He was hard on.

[G]

I know why he's hard on Bleak. Cause everybody know Jay and Bleak are like this. And Jay Bleak is like his nephew, his son.

[A]

He loved, yo, you know, so he took up.

[G]

He thinks Jay saw Dame wasn't having that shit.

[A]

Yo, you know, I found out something later in my career about Dame that I never even knew when we was together. Like, I found out during the breakup. And it made me like, damn, Dame really, really with me. Because in my whole career, Clue is my brother. I have nothing against Clue, right? But I felt. I always felt like with Clue in my face, Clue show the most love when I'm not there. Clue always gave me the vibe. He don't fuck with me. Clue don't play my music. Music. Clued on. You know what I mean? I only was on the mixtape. I was only on the mixtape when Jay invited me. I'm on the song with Jay. You know what I mean? Or I'm on some with Beans, like Clue never really embraced me being a part of Rockefeller. Always. I could be wrong. I don't know. You know what I mean? But I found out something later that made me understand maybe why Clue was like that. Somebody told me, me, at Dame, on my first album, bet Clue that I would do more numbers than Fab first album.

[G]

And I like Fab.

[A]

Shout out to Fab. Me too. Shout out to Fab. I fuck with him. Seriously, I would never compare us.

[G]

You got two different rappers.

[A]

Yes, he had a way better career than me. He still winning, right? But just for Dame to even bet.

[G]

That on me, that made you feel.

[A]

Like I was like, damn, Dame really, really fucked with me. Like, so those type of stories and the things I know what he did for me and who he was. Regardless of the arguments we had on the jet, in the studios, at video shoots, at the movie shoots, at state property, too. Yo, I could name all the arguments.

[G]

I had with Dave then when he get frustrated. I ain't got to do with the shit. That's J, man.

[A]

He did that.

[G]

Am I doing that shit? I ain't doing.

[A]

I ain't got to deal with you, Bleak. That nigga. I still got respect for Dame. The only time I could say Dame hurt my feelings, where I was like, damn, dawg, that was a low blow, my nigga, I know what you asked for. We was at the Change Clothes video shoot and we had an argument. And that nigga was like, man, you talking like you don't wanna be here. If you don't wanna be here, nigga, I drop you tonight. Like, what, nigga? You ain't got that power.

[C]

Power.

[G]

But he need two to go with him.

[A]

Yeah, it was like. But for him to even say that to me was like, hey, cuz, you want to meet me in the alley?

[G]

That's all Bleak knew. That's all I knew. I got down. That's all I knew was, Rockefeller, you blood. I take a blood test. Rockefeller coming out my blood. I don't know nothing else.

[A]

That's a fact, bro.

[G]

So had no. I was Jersey man.

[A]

You, they bought you on as an A R. And you had a tough role, a tough position. But you was very important, bro. I just want you to know that. Cause I never got a chance to tell you that a lot of raps, a lot of rhymes, a lot of songs, a lot of features with me and Beans wouldn't have been what they were if you wouldn't have said what they sent you to say.

[G]

Yeah, it was hard to Believe. I don't think I like hurting feelings.

[A]

Man, you know what I'm saying?

[G]

But you want me to go tell the snake? Yo man, I told you what the fuck?

[A]

But that breeds. And you know who's a real warrior and who a real soldier when they can take the inside and turn it around and make it back. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't one of those guys like man, this. I'm done. I'm going home.

[G]

Took out the pen.

[A]

Oh yeah, just go to work, bro. So you was very important and instrumental in that, man. You know what I'm saying? Like thank you.

[G]

Thank you. I. I just want to say a couple things because I know we've been talking again. I gotta use your platform. I have to do it.

[A]

Oh yeah, my G. Oh, I forgot my bag. What we got? What we got?

[G]

You can smoke a my face. I only bought this for you.

[A]

Yo, chill. You gave me a rolling tray, my brother.

[G]

Yeah, this for you, man. Cuz you smoke weed. I just want the world to know. The Big Face Gary Show.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

This is from. This is my. My platform. I'm going to have this. I'm going to be selling this for like we haven't decided. Probably 15 only because of the shipping. But it is what it is. But it's a very important trip, Trey. I made it and I'm giving it to Bleak so he can smoke his weed and whether. Smoke on My Big Face. Smoke on My Big Face. And the Big Face Gary Show. I come on live every Tuesday at between 8:39. Please check in. I'm at 30,000. Just did it last week and I'm growing. I feel better now. Cause we got 100 weak's a rapper and he's down with the Big Homie. That's real I'm geese stuff right now.

[A]

My brother.

[G]

You got a honey.

[A]

Appreciate you. Thank you.

[G]

I swear to God I wasn't nervous coming, but just seeing you as a grown man. You've grown up.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[G]

Developed to somebody special. I. I kind of knew, but I didn't know. And I was like, well, why Bleak was talking so. But now this is who Bleak is.

[A]

That's right, man.

[G]

Stay this way. But I know you don't feel like with your wife out of you.

[A]

Yes I do. My, you bugging. My wife knows. She know the vibes.

[G]

This how you talk.

[A]

Even my daughter know the vibe on your. Yeah, my daughter know the vibes. Hey yo.

[G]

Hey.

[A]

Don't play with me.

[G]

That's it.

[A]

Yeah man, this. This Is this is project Baby Malik.

[G]

Is going to do very well. This podcast, Big Face. Yes, I see that.

[A]

Rolling trays.

[G]

Everybody. And I don't know whatever you have. What else you have to say there. But state property get low. Bleak, I feel you should come platinum. I don't know what the happened to you. Yeah, it was right that was going that week. Yo, Dame, look at the numbers. Yo, dang, we gonna make it.

[A]

Nah, big Face, Nah. Right there.

[G]

That's gonna cheat and buy them.

[A]

850. That should stop that.

[G]

850.

[A]

First album.

[G]

Second.

[A]

Second album. Yeah, yeah, second album. But all the joints went gold, man.

[G]

No, no, you're a gold artist.

[A]

I appreciate everybody that purchased went out there and copped anything, man. Cause this streaming era, it's.

[G]

Oh, yeah, I'm learning. It's old, it's new shit. Bleak learning. He just said I'm learning and I'm getting better. Better at it. And I'm glad I'm here and I'm. Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Come on, Face, man. I'm glad we had this conversation, man.

[G]

And I want y' all to every Tuesday and more. The Big Face Garrison oblique. I really appreciate you.

[A]

Nah, bro, you my fan, man. And I'm glad you pulled up. I always wanted to hear. Cause I never got a chance to sit down with Dame and really talk a personal conversation yet. So I never heard what he thought or what y' all perspective was on, what went left or who fought. It was on this. And I always felt like, yo, bro, we stood on what we stood on. And we just wanted niggas to clarify something. And they just stood on it. And it grew so big when big.

[G]

Homie feels way and you feel he's all right. And I work with you. I work on my side.

[A]

I got my side.

[G]

You work your. And we're gonna try to get this right. Right?

[A]

Yeah, bro. Since the beginning.

[G]

It may take another five years. They got to get something.

[A]

I definitely would love to see them.

[G]

His, man. His. Well, I don't give a fuck. That's his man. They're beefing. He's filthy. He stands on his own.

[A]

That's right.

[G]

You stand on your own. Same thing.

[A]

Listen, like me, I would love for them to have a conversation just to.

[G]

Be called you just to stop cameras.

[A]

They don't got to be business partners. They don't have to be best friends. We don't gotta go golfing. We don't gotta babysit each other kids and go Kumbaya. But just to be called you, because this. That Goes on. On the Internet. My.

[G]

I know it hurts Bleak. And it hurts me because I know Jay. I know. These are my friends. I see is 1450. Bleak is a grown man with two.

[A]

Yeah, we don't represent that.

[G]

Yeah, we don't represent that.

[A]

But that ain't what we still in our heart, Bleak.

[G]

The truth. We're gonna try to get them together.

[A]

That's a fact, bro. You know it, man.

[G]

I don't know if you have more. I love all your. Thank you.

[A]

Thank you, my brother.

[G]

And this I. I already know. And get the views up for this because this is incredible.

[A]

Now we doing that thing, my G. We doing that thing, man. You know.

[G]

Thank you so much, y'.

[A]

All. You know what it is, man? This is rock solid. This is Big Face Gary Legendary. What you said Upper west side.

[G]

I'm from Upper west side. Harlem's my second home. Every Tuesday between 8 and 9. I come live every Tuesday.

[A]

So Harlem legend, man. Harlem legend. Upper west side. Riverside producer.

[G]

I love all your peace, yo.

[A]

You already know Rock solid, y'. All. Nori. Yeah. Drink champs, Black effects, Doucet. You know, winning. Yeah. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding, flag them.

[B]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The bed is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Asheville fans, school class colors everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[E]

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[D]

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[E]

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[D]

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[E]

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[A]

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[F]

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[E]

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[G]

We call the shots.

[A]

In what way is that degrading?

[E]

That's us taking hold of our Life. Listen to Genaworld on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

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[G]

It's okay not to be okay sometimes.

[A]

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[G]

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[A]

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[F]

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[G]

Listen to season two of Family Therapy.

[A]

Every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever.

[G]

You get your podcasts.

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast.