Black Child | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek – Black Child Episode (June 9, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this episode of ROC Solid, Memphis Bleek sits down with his longtime friend and collaborator, Black Child. The vibe is raw, nostalgic, and deeply authentic, as they revisit their storied pasts in hip-hop, reflect on key moments from the Murder Inc. and Roc-A-Fella eras, and discuss the evolution from street hustle to entrepreneurship. They share untold stories from the golden age, break down the culture of competition in the studio, and drop gems for the next generation about brotherhood, family, and business. The chemistry between Bleek and Black Child is undeniable, bringing rare insights and unfiltered candor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reconnecting and Roots

[02:45–05:35]

• Bleek and Black Child reminisce about old wild nights in Miami and ask how Black Child ended up in Columbus, Ohio ("How the hell you end up in Columbus, my Ohio?").
• Black Child explains his move: touring led him to OH, bouncing between NY and Ohio, and moving family there.
• Origins in Brooklyn and Jamaica, Queens; details the link with Ja Rule and shared upbringing two blocks from each other.

Quote:
“I lived like two blocks from Rue, so we always just started smoking together, writing together. Me and Rue go back, you know, straight back to the... in the hood.” – Black Child [06:00]

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2. The Early Murder Inc./Roc-A-Fella Days

[06:30–09:22]

• Black Child discusses coming up under Jam Master Jay and being signed by him before getting locked up.
• The birth of Murder Inc., being in the mix with Ja Rule, Irv Gotti, and a whole movement that shaped an era.
• Bleek sets the record straight about the close working relationship between Roc-A-Fella and Murder Inc., all the way down to shared promo tours and studio sessions.

Quote:
"Murder Inc. and Roc-A-Fella was really a major team... all the radio interviews, promo tours, studio sessions... before there was a crack crackhouse, we was all in Sony, D&D..." – Memphis Bleek [08:49]

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3. Studio Competition & The Murderers Compilation

[09:33–13:07]

• Both reminisce about the iconic "Murderers" album and the energy in those studio sessions.
• Black Child talks about competition sharpening everyone’s bars, coming home from jail with "a fresh book bag of a hundred clip" (100 verses ready).
• Camaraderie and healthy competition: “Next man up. Straight up. That’s just how it went.” (Memphis Bleek [12:55])
• Black Child breaks down Irv Gotti’s method—pushing artists to go harder, and the focus on family.

Quote:
"The biggest thing I learned from Gotti is family... we made money together. But the way he moved with his whole family... big dinners... everybody at the dinner, everybody on vacation." – Black Child [13:50]

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4. Tales from the Road & Era Shifts

[19:39–21:15]

• Favorite tour memories: Hard Knock Life Tour, post-jail homecomings, after-parties, meeting Drag-On, hitting Philly and Miami.
• Studio and street stories—highlighting the close bonds formed in legendary venues.

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5. Inside Murder Inc.: Artist Relationships and Loyalty

[21:15–23:04]

• Black Child names Ja Rule as his favorite Murder Inc. artist to work with, but has love for Ashanti and especially Vita (“Me and Vita got the closest relationship.”).
• Bleek touches on the difficulties when the crew splinters, crediting Ja Rule for carrying the banner when needed.

Quote:
"Sometimes you gotta carry it on their own... cause sometimes, get to say, like... you gotta get out here and bribe and carry it yourself." – Black Child [21:58]

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6. Beef, Survival, and Lessons for the Next Generation

[23:43–27:27]

• Black Child recalls the raw street energy of the era—beef DVDs, Biggie-era stories, and what’s entertainment versus what’s real.
• Both discuss transitioning into acting (“When slowed down on rap, I said, I’mma start doing movies,” – Black Child [24:27]) and business, and weathering industry downturns.
• Advice for young artists: choose brotherhood over beef, know who the real “ops” are, and remember that unity and entrepreneurship build more than drama.

Quote:
"Really gotta look at each other like brothers, for real... it’s really stopped going to war and then it’ll be different." – Black Child [31:04]

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7. Entrepreneurship After Hip-Hop

[29:00–36:01]

• Black Child speaks on his smoke shop in Ohio ("I opened up on St. Patty’s day like two years ago.") and ambitions to open a car lot and create jobs for family.
• Both reflect on how hustling mindsets turned into building legit businesses. They joke about "coming to buy all the vanilla Backwoods" and supporting each other's ventures.
• Black Child plans new music with Murder Inc. producers (shouts to Chink Santana, [35:42]) and possibly collaborating with Bleek (“We need to do one... just smash them one time.” – Memphis Bleek [36:25]).

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8. Industry Realities: Business Lessons and Studio Politics

[39:56–46:43]

• They candidly talk about feeling overlooked as artists, producer politics, business misunderstandings (“I learned... to open up a studio. My own studio in the hood.” – Black Child [43:32]).
• Gotti’s tough negotiation style when invoicing for studio time is discussed, offering a real-world example of how the industry operates and the importance of setting up your business/LLC properly.

Quote:
"We forgot the number one rule in business... we never put an LLC together for them to pay the business." – Memphis Bleek [45:53]

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9. Reflections on Growth, Transition, and Giving Back

[47:11–52:50]

• Both detail careers evolving into acting, liquor business (D’usse), and focusing on longevity and community.
• Black Child mentions transitioning into health, with plans to sell sea moss and elderberry, and using business to help the community—not just chasing the next big check.
• Bleek emphasizes enjoying family, helping the next generation, and being present in the now rather than tied to past identities.

Quote:
"We want to talk about the life we live now, not the life we lived in. That’s a problem with a lot of these rappers... stuck in the past." – Memphis Bleek [39:21]

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10. Closing Words: Brotherhood and Legacy

[51:41–53:08]

• Final words are about loyalty, brotherhood, and continuing to hustle legitimately.
• Bleek shouts out Black Child as a solid, certified man, and encourages listeners to tap into the legacy of mixtape and Murder Inc. work.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Yo, you had one of the illest freestyles over that ‘Wangsta’ beat... Don’t make me stab you, don’t make me gun you.” – Memphis Bleek [23:04]
• “Every game slow up... Rap game, crack game, dope game. You gotta be able to weather the storm.” – Memphis Bleek [24:16]
• “Sometimes you just gotta be official... that’s why you solid in my book for life, my G.” – Memphis Bleek [14:28]
• “The biggest thing I learned from Gotti is family. Get the value of family.” – Black Child [13:46]
• “Let me speak for one second. The jewel in that is that made Rico open up my own studio... charge. That’s the game.” – Black Child [44:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:45 – Memphis Bleek introduces Black Child
• 04:33 – Black Child details move to Columbus, OH
• 06:00 – Origins in Queens; linking with Ja Rule
• 07:46 – Black Child’s early days with Jam Master Jay
• 09:33 – The Murderers album and studio stories
• 13:07 – Lessons from Irv Gotti – family and business
• 19:39 – Favorite tour stories (Hard Knock Life, Miami, Philly)
• 23:04 – Freestyle wars and street moments
• 24:27 – Transition to acting
• 29:00 – Moving into entrepreneurship (smoke shop, car lot)
• 31:02 – Advice on beef, unity, and knowing your real opponents
• 36:01 – Music comebacks and possible collabs
• 39:56 – Industry business lessons, producer politics
• 47:11 – Shifting into acting, liquor business, community focus
• 51:41 – Final words on brotherhood and legacy

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Takeaways for Listeners

This episode is a masterclass in hip-hop brotherhood, business hustle, and how the real ones pivot and build for the future. Through wild stories and hard-earned wisdom, Bleek and Black Child show that being "ROC Solid" isn't just about lyrics or fame—it's about authenticity, growth, and loyalty that lasts decades.

Stay locked. Stay solid.

Transcript

[Memphis Bleak]

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[Black Child]

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[Memphis Bleak]

What up, y'? All? This your main man, Memphis Bleak, right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network, in partnership with my guides over at Drink Champs. All right, y', all, you know what it is. Yours truly, M. Greasy Myth Bleak Live with another exclusive of Rock Solid podcast right here at the High Tolerance headquarters. So you know it's gonna be gas. And I got one of my brothers. It's only a few I could count on my hand in this game as family. And this man right here, if it was a brother, this would be him. Man, this is my guy. Let's welcome Black Child to the building. Yo, my Jeep is saying word to God since like, 98 my facts. What's up, though, my guy?

[Black Child]

Happy to hear link with you. Yeah, man, this is the hot tolerance edition.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah. This the high tolerance edition, man. You know, I had to bring you the go get high. We gonna smoke out like we used to do back in the day. You know what I'm saying?

[Black Child]

We're backwards. First came out.

[Memphis Bleak]

Before we go back there, though, let's talk about what you into now. Cause I want to know all the nights we spent in Miami. Wilding, south beach, going crazy, Club Crystals, everything. Club Bag, Coco. Oh, my God. My damn. Don't bring no memories back. Oh, my God. How the hell you end up in Columbus? My Ohio?

[Black Child]

Columbus, Ohio. Death J. Vent Editor. We went out there on tour. Me, Red Meth, Nori was on. Yeah, Nori the Guard and Joe Buttons. Some people start doing some verses, some link with some Africans out there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, wow. In. In Ohio.

[Black Child]

In Ohio.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn. That's what's up.

[Black Child]

Mocking in. I ain't down there right away. I used to bounce back and forth.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

York back to Ohio, and then I end up just migrating. I just moved. My mom's down there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, that's what's up.

[Black Child]

Daughter down there.

[Memphis Bleak]

God bless you.

[Black Child]

Get down there next month. Whole family of Columbus.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's what's up my G. Ohio, man. Now I know I got a homie in Ohio to pull up on. Come to the games, go see the Buckeyes. You know what I'm saying? Six, one four, you know what I'm saying? Let's get Bucky out there, but let's go back in the Day a little bit, man. The days of Queens, man. Because that's what, you know, I knew you Daniel my whole life, but I don't even know what part of Queens you from.

[Black Child]

I mean, I'm from Holland. I'm from Jamaica, Queens. I'm born in Brooklyn.

[Memphis Bleak]

You born in Brooklyn.

[Black Child]

It's like back and forth from Queens. Oh, White coffee.

[Memphis Bleak]

Go on.

[Black Child]

You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, your people's from Gowan is. Oh, yeah, you. That's why you a step up. Yeah. That's why you out here stepping on

[Black Child]

Migrated to Queens north side.

[Memphis Bleak]

And then you. How you linked up with Rule, though Rude.

[Black Child]

I lived like two blocks from Rue, so we always just started smoking together, writing together. Me and Rue go back, you know, straight back to the SO2L, to the in the hood.

[Memphis Bleak]

So that mean you Rule, his wife and Don DeMarco, y' all grew up around the same area.

[Black Child]

Yep.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's lit, man.

[Black Child]

That's lit apart. I used to go to the side of that side of the tracks. Yeah. Do my dirty around. Yeah, yeah, go back home.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what's up My G it and then murder ain't just take off my G. Like, what was it like? You know what I mean, in the beginning for you? Like, what was your whole thought process of the whole thing like? I know you know, Ja Rule was the focus. But then what was the thing behind the whole. Murder ain't moving because y' all niggas had one of the illest movements in the gang, bro. We ain't gonna never let people erase that facts, you know what I mean?

[Black Child]

What's up? Yeah, yo, let me tell you, you know, this started put once I moved to Queens. Coming from Queens, moving to Holland first.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Black Child]

I came up under Jam Master J. That's his a lot of. I was signed to Jam Master J, Earl.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn. I ain't know that as a young so Gotti was still an artist back in the days. Rest in peace to the OG Jay

[Black Child]

was gon job because Jay was that. It was just rest in peace. My Gotti, he was just coming up.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

Shout Out Mike Geronimo for real in Blunt Record. So Jay was. Jay wanted to sign J at one point. Yeah. Then, you know, I used to go to the studio and work his wasanta J when J was my. I used to be with John Irv every day in the mdv.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Black Child]

Then that's what happened. I ended up getting locked up in 95. Right. I got bailed out in 96. So 96. I was home For a little while. And yes, you know, that's when it started popping.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's when went crazy. 97.

[Black Child]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I think it's had a major run. I give it like so.

[Black Child]

So yeah. So that ever. I got locked up when I went to jail.

[Memphis Bleak]

Irv.

[Black Child]

Right before I went to jail, Irv had me X ja all us doing for Mike. Geronimo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes. Then damn, that's crazy.

[Black Child]

Came home in 98x job and Mike was up here. They was on Fire in 97 every time. Can I get a king more MTV my. I went to my cell and wrote a verse. Yo, you knew I was coming home to some.

[Memphis Bleak]

You see, it's crazy. They tried to say ho stole that record from Rue. Oh, man.

[Black Child]

Like don't be Ali running the plate down the court sometimes.

[Memphis Bleak]

Sometimes the play look better for you than it does for me. But long as I get my verse, then it works. That's a fact. But ain't out here stealing no records. It's a family. That's the. That's the thing. Didn't know too that Murder Inc. And Rockefeller was really a major team. Like everything we did then, it was together. All the radio interviews, promo tours, studio sessions. Before there was a crack crackhouse. We was all in Sony dnd. Right Track quad, all that together. Baseline.

[Black Child]

Word.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was. They didn't came to crack house. But that was later on in the day in the. In the. Like that. But let's talk about the Murderers album, bro.

[Black Child]

Said the Murderers album. Yeah, that's what I came home to. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm saying fresh off. No. First we did remix the Can I get her? And I ain't gonna never forgive Jala. Yeah, holla, holla, holla. I ain't gonna never forgive Ja for trying to get me to wear leather pants in the video. You remember, nigga like, yo, you bugging. Please leather look good on camera. I was like, I don't give a fuck how good it look. I'm not wearing no leather pants, my nigga. Fuck that.

[Black Child]

Yeah, the leather jerseys, that was all

[Memphis Bleak]

I did was the leather jersey, the pants.

[Black Child]

Nah said I ain't doing all of that.

[Memphis Bleak]

And they go through was wild.

[Black Child]

You know, back then they always had the stylus for the video. Yo, Lisa used to lace us up. She used to do fly.

[Memphis Bleak]

I miss them days you had mad in the trailer now got to show up. Video ready? Yeah, straight up.

[Black Child]

You.

[Memphis Bleak]

You might not even have a change of clothes at the video. One. One. One outfit, three shots.

[Black Child]

One outfit, two locations straight.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, but the Murderers album Like, that was ill, my G. Like, I feel like it's one of the. We don't get compilations from out from labels anymore, you know what I mean? I think that was one of the most dopest and slept on compilation albums because I still got like three, four of them joints on my playlist to this day, my G. I stepped on that. So you know what I mean? What was that like working with everybody collectively? Because it was. You shout out my girl Vita.

[Black Child]

She said, what's up?

[Memphis Bleak]

So word up.

[Black Child]

Coming up.

[Memphis Bleak]

She gotta pull up, man. So they don't know me and Vita locked in. We was. We was. You know what I mean? Well, I forgot the county, they called it in Jersey, because I've been out here for a minute. But I remember pulling up to the car wash and see Vita in there with the major nice bit. It's like, damn, Vita, you get money

[Black Child]

like that, she's still pushing. See, she'll pull up on you. I'm selling dollars.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, word up. So you know what I mean, working with Vita, of course. Rule, Ashanti, Charlie Cadillac, Ty. Like, what was that studio. Them studio sessions like back then? We Gotti quarterback in the whole was hungry.

[Black Child]

I know I was hungry back then. It was like competition.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

Really. It was like, yo, whoever got the hottest version on the song, whoever is the artist, so you had to go hard on your first album. I was coming home with a fresh book bag of a honey clip. I had a honey clip. I had 100 verses or something in the chamber, whatever. So I used to just definitely. They called me the Peacemaster because I take the hottest from all my verses

[Memphis Bleak]

and make it one.

[Black Child]

Make it one if I. You know what I mean? It's all me. Ain't never hear it. So it was like a competition. But actually it also sharpened kills go harder because, you know, if you were slipping, you know what I mean, you. You wouldn't really even get the shot in case of getting.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I mean? And that's how it was. That's how it was back then. If you didn't come with that heat.

[Black Child]

That too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

Like everybody.

[Memphis Bleak]

You didn't come with that heat.

[Black Child]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Next man up. Straight up. That's just how it went. And y' all all. Gotti made sure all y' all shine. Like, out of all the producers you worked with in the industry, where would you put Gotti? Where would you rank him at?

[Black Child]

You know, I'm ranking my God number one. Crazy. Rest in peace to my og. I think it have been in a lot of ears. When they. Before they went in the booth, Gotti done sat down with hov and was like, yo, come back.

[Memphis Bleak]

You should do it like this.

[Black Child]

Pretty sure. Cause that's what Gotti do. You know what I mean? He done did it with X, you know what I mean? X done did songs. Got an X in like, nah, N go harder.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, Gotti was a visionary. So you worked with him closer than me, like y' all was. You know what I mean? What's something that you would say? Like, something like one of the gems that you would say Gotti left you with, that you'll be like, man, you would pass down to another youngin out here.

[Black Child]

Yo, you know what the biggest thing I learned from Gotti is? Family.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Black Child]

Get the value of family. You see that Gotti, that's like out of all the industry.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

Like, I learned a lot. We made money together. But the way he moved with his whole family. And Gotti got a big family. If you go to his page, you look back. He got 10, 13 brothers and sisters, nieces, nephews. Who's the whole family be moving? Yeah, big dinners. I know. I mean, everybody at the dinner, everybody on vacation. You know what I mean? So that's the biggest thing I'll take from Gotti. I just had dinner with my whole family yesterday.

[Memphis Bleak]

All right, now, let's do Word up. And you flew today. I ain't going front.

[Black Child]

I ain't making yesterday.

[Memphis Bleak]

I respect the fuck out of you. Cause you know how many niggas you could call and talk to today? And they tell you, I'mma catch a flight tomorrow. And niggas be like, yo, something came up. A black really hit me, yo, I just landed, nigga never even text me, yo, I got the flight. I land at this airport. Nothing N just called me. I landed. I respect that. You always been an official nigga with me, man. And that's. I take that to the grave with me, dog. You my brother. My word, always my. One of the realest work on and off the mic. That's what I'm saying. Don't know how we was moving out here. All these clubs stomping, going crazy. My.

[Black Child]

I think it was one time. I remember one time you had a show out here and get your mind right. We was tearing clubs, yo, out here,

[Memphis Bleak]

yo, I ain't gonna front. We used to have a wireless cruise, too. Because it'll be me. You.

[Black Child]

Oh,

[Memphis Bleak]

what's my man? What's my man name from? Damn.

[Black Child]

Damn.

[Memphis Bleak]

He gonna be mad at me because his name is a pause. I gotta you my bro, but your name is a pause. Mr. Chinks. Remember Chinks. We be with him and fucking corrupt. Yeah, I remember. We all was hanging together like. And I sat there back like, yo, this is a wildlife. I think I went the wildest gang right now that we love it. Early yo wilding scooters.

[Black Child]

She ate queens. He was outside before us.

[Memphis Bleak]

And you know what's so up though, my G. Out of all that mob and everything we did, we never got one in. We never even tried.

[Black Child]

My one time I was supposed to

[Memphis Bleak]

meet you at May Slide, and you ain't pull up.

[Black Child]

No, you something happened and we ain't get the link. I had one in the chin before,

[Memphis Bleak]

so that's what I never forget. Y' all pulled up the baseline. I called rule to do murder to do mine. Right? Remember, they just don't know. That's really ja on the ad libs going, it's murder. I got my mind right money right ready for war. This leak is murder. That's him really singing it. And y' all niggas got the call and this shit went yahya sway and got bucky. After that, we ain't got to talk about all this. That's. I never forget that. Yeah. All that they talk about in the studio. Lights getting cut off. That happened at the session of my. Right went there and then came right back with mad bottles of Remy. We blasting the music that night.

[Black Child]

I forgot recorded it that night. Studio hopping there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes. Y' all went over there, did what y' all did, and came right back with mad bottles of Remy in the studio.

[Black Child]

Yeah. N was drinking Remy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Yeah, I was on the Remy gang.

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[Black Child]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Black Child]

All?

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[Memphis Bleak]

Hey, let's talk about like, what what you. What's your. What's some of your favorite memories from tour, man?

[Black Child]

Tour Life Hard Knock Life Tour. I came home when I came home from jail, that's when I met you.

[Memphis Bleak]

I know.

[Black Child]

I came home hard.

[Memphis Bleak]

Not think that was the end of 98, beginning in 99.

[Black Child]

Yo, the after party was in Philly. Y' all was doing Philly that night.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was on. That was. We had it on the boat.

[Black Child]

No, I think we all had limos. And we went from New York to Philly.

[Memphis Bleak]

It must have been the train club Transit. I think I remember that. Yeah, something like that. It was the downtown. We used to walk the brick road. Crazy, yo. Damn. Yo, hold on. You brought up a major. I remember that. We went to Philly back to back, doubled up like we was Frank White and them. And we had the square limos too. We ain't at. We had a nice joint.

[Black Child]

Then we came to Miami. And we was at the Delano. Yeah, we was at the Delano. I Think Rough Riders. Because I remember Drag. I met you and Drag on the same time. I was Drag.

[Memphis Bleak]

My shout out. Drag. That's my dog right there, man. You know, I hate when do this to me, but I gotta ask you, because they do it to me. Out of all the artists on murdering, it's your favorite artist to work with my favorite artist? Yeah.

[Black Child]

It's gonna be Rude.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, nah, man. No, ain't nobody else. You can't say that.

[Black Child]

That character up his back. I see Rude take that from every stage from when we first started from battle rap in the streets. And then he took it all the way to commercial.

[Memphis Bleak]

So that's a fact.

[Black Child]

Speak on Murder Inc. You know what I mean? And I love Ashanti, too. Ashanti is like, no, her shit is magic. I think me and Vita got the closest relationship. So it's different levels to this. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's what's up, man. Come on, man.

[Black Child]

That's my. I don't see that start from all the way. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I ain't gonna lie. One thing I was mad at about the whole situation when went left with y' all is that Rude stayed away from, like, you didn't come to the team. Left the team. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know what was going through mind at that time.

[Black Child]

Sometimes gotta carry it on their own.

[Memphis Bleak]

Sometimes.

[Black Child]

Cause sometimes get to say, like, you probably go through it like, oh, that's hov, man. You gotta get out here and bribe and carry it yourself.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's no matter what I do.

[Black Child]

See what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

My hov paid for you to get here.

[Black Child]

Yeah, exactly.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, that's how far I go. That whole thing for you to get

[Black Child]

here while we talking. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

He said, yo, he need black on this joint.

[Black Child]

Exactly.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's how far go with the whole. Did like, yeah, it's bad.

[Black Child]

So it's like that with Rule. I think sometimes he got to show the world he could carry it on his own. Yeah. And I think he did a great job.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, my G. Because we all.

[Black Child]

And you know what? That's better, too, because it make niggas like us stand on our own. You see what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Black Child]

Then don't really gotta carry a.

[Memphis Bleak]

And y' all held it down. My G. Nobody out here through all the drama. I ain't gonna front my G. Yo, you had one of the illest freestyles over that wangster beat. My. Don't make me stab. Don't make me stab you, don't make me gun you.

[Black Child]

Yeah, yo, my, at that time, yo,

[Memphis Bleak]

Black, you was on some. And that's the ill thing. You was on the block in Queens. Was living in Queens still for a minute, shooting videos, all that.

[Black Child]

My, I was out there. That's when I realized that a lot of that these be doing is entertainment. And during the ever, yo, because at first we was real serious, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that was the time when, remember Biggie and them was kicking his studio doors True life and them was running up in studios.

[Black Child]

So like my it was going with him on the beef dvd. Yeah, Ving Reigns have plugged it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, listen, Vin reigns only with crazy and he only with you in true life. So of course y' all linked with each other like. Like, yo word speak of it, right? Then you do your movie thing for a minute, right?

[Black Child]

I did, I did a few joints. Yeah. Moving him and Terrence Howard.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I remember. Yo, listen, I remember sitting in the crib with wifey, seeing him in Raymond. I think it was the animal. And you came on. I'm like, yo, this my wifey. Look at me like, you know him. I'm like, yeah, you know him too.

[Black Child]

Yeah. Cause when the slowed up on rap, you know, Slowed down.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Black Child]

I ain't going front every game, slow up every game.

[Memphis Bleak]

Rap game, rap game, crack game, dope game. You gotta be able to weather the storm. My GS in every hustle. Yeah.

[Black Child]

I said, you, I'mma start doing movies.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, that's what's up. How was that?

[Black Child]

Doing movies?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, how was that? Was it easy for you to transition into movies like this?

[Black Child]

Easy? It was easy.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was definitely because I see my BJ ain't playing.

[Black Child]

Remembering the lines, this was like verses, like remembering the song.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

So that part was easy. And a lot of times the characters Gotti had threw me an alley oop and it mostly will be in my lane. Yeah, I mean, he had to tell Siri. A lot of times they put me in the gangster lane. Anyway, yo, in the gang to make it call black, you know what I mean? I was like, all right, let's get it. So it was right in my leg. I look. Know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Said we need a gangster called black.

[Black Child]

The big 50 movie out of Detroit. That was on the bet. I did a few joints. I did.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell yeah, man. I seen you pop up in a few joints. That's from like my black out that big 50.

[Black Child]

She played the chick from Deondra from Detroit biopic. Remy Ma played her.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Black Child]

And I think pretty V was in that, too. Damn, it was serious.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what's up my. The acting. I had cold feet at first, but then after a while, I was like, man, I wanted to do it especially for some New York on some comedy. I feel like we ain't really got one. A good one.

[Black Child]

You was killing them in motherfucking yo

[Memphis Bleak]

state property, my nigga. I picked up.

[Black Child]

Yo, you're in state prop, too, right?

[Memphis Bleak]

I wasn't in State Prop 2. They killed me. Beans called snitched on me, got me clipped.

[Black Child]

All right, money, right. I'm ready for.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that was. That was paper Soldiers. You know, I ain't even want to do that movie. I duck dang for, like, three months. Angles calling me every day. Yo, Bleed, where you at?

[Black Child]

Yeah, pull up, tell her I'm on

[Memphis Bleak]

my way and I ain't never show up. I ducked that for a minute. And then he called HOV on me. And then HOV was like, yo, you gonna do that? And I'm like, nah, it. I pulled up, and that's when Dane was like, yo, you with HOV more than you with me. Like, what the is you doing? Like, I've been calling you

[Black Child]

now you hit me back. Nah. But sometimes be skeptical about Rose, yo transitioning, and.

[Memphis Bleak]

And it was at the same time.

[Black Child]

It was a good move. But it's history.

[Memphis Bleak]

But it's at the same time. He was doing Death of a Dynasty, so it was. I didn't. I know what type of time niggas was on point.

[Black Child]

Take that serious, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

But it was really happening.

[Black Child]

Spoof. I know, but it was.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was depicting life. Not life. Supposed to depict art. Like, that was imitating life right there, my G. That was really happening. So as you making the movie Death of a Dynasty, the dynasty was literally breaking up. So it was like, nah, I don't want to do nothing with the other side. I'm on this side. And that's what it was like. And murdering. Did y' all ever have an issue like that where it was. Yo, ain't with them right now, man.

[Black Child]

All the time still. Right now. Right now. Surprise. They don't with. Cause my don't with, and they don't with me. You know what I mean? And that's the way it's supposed to be when they.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, family, man.

[Black Child]

Yeah, I respect that. But it's still supposed to be a certain line of boundaries when you got history with prior to it, a certain level of respect.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a lie.

[Black Child]

Have a certain. A dame. Expect a Certain level of respect from you.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. I would never he know. And that's one thing they know. We spoke on the phone. He know all of my OGs. Dang, bigs J1, any of them, man. I don't give a what's going on. I would never disrespect the who gave me a shot, bro. I don't care what all I got to do is take. When the give you a shot, it's on you to make the shot or practice for the next shot, pass it to a to make a better shot. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's on you to take that and run with it. So I could never disrespect a who passed me the rock my G like. And. And I don't care what you dealing with, what you going through. I got nothing to do with me. But my love and respect for them is always gonna stay 100.

[Black Child]

That's how I've been too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, word up, bro. You see me. Yeah.

[Black Child]

The whole.

[Memphis Bleak]

The whole time, man. What's your. Of course you a rule. Still got a good relationship with my brother. Word up.

[Black Child]

I pop out. I hit him up. He popped up. Tomorrow I got a smoke shop and all Ohio.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man. Talk about that talk. Let's talk about it.

[Black Child]

Yes. I opened up on Saints Patty day like two years ago. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

He got the smoke shop out there in Ohio. So you know what that mean. We gotta bring the high. The HT gotta touch down with old town. HT gotta touch down popping.

[Black Child]

We about to have a car lot. Popping.

[Memphis Bleak]

Car lot. Oh, you opened up a car lot out there.

[Black Child]

Up a call lot. I just. I just got my niece in position to open up the call. I told you. Biggest thing I learned.

[Memphis Bleak]

I've been doing my little research. Yeah. Tell niece we going car shopping. They come cheap off the. Where you got the dealer license. I know, I heard. We get. We get the major, major middle finger in your face when you walk on the showroom floor with that extra 20 pack put on top of the car.

[Black Child]

And we gonna help the people at the same time. Because everybody credit and money ain't right. Yeah. You know what I mean? Sometimes all be bust ahead. But it's just about entrepreneurship and growing and just hustling outside of music and other things.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Black Child]

You know what I mean? Because there's several ways to get it the right way. Just gotta know how to get it.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. And gotta focus and stay focused to get it my g. A lot of people start something and then start this and then start that and miss the opportunity because you're doing too many things at once. But being through the war, y' all been through murder Inc. You know what I mean? Well, like it's seeing the game the way it go now where all these kids is hyped up on the beef. And what would you. What would your advice be to the shorties that focusing on this beef, man

[Black Child]

that sometimes you gotta really, really know who the real ops time I own people ain't really that on. Like one thing I learned from traveling this whole world. You know what I mean? Is that I always notice it's always one side against another side. East side gets the west side.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Black Child]

Like the south side. In every hood, every town, anywhere you go everywhere.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's never both sides with each other.

[Black Child]

So really gotta look at each other like brothers. For real.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Black Child]

And need to the night a little bit. It's really stopped going to war and then it'll be different.

[Memphis Bleak]

This earn too much money, man. I can think about that. Yo, yo, black man, just think about it, bro. All the shows we used to go on the road, just imagine going to pick up a 50 pack of was getting like 10, eight. And you thought you was that. You got that, that, that eight. You felt like better not play with me.

[Black Child]

Sometimes I used to get subjects and think they made a mistake.

[Memphis Bleak]

Joe, this ain't for me.

[Black Child]

These that made it before they tell me say that all this money. Yo daddy, you know what's zero?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that's a fact. I ain't gonna lie. What's one of the illest places you've been to that you feel like, yo, damn, this shit's crazy. It's paradise.

[Black Child]

Been to so many places, it's hard to think one place I've been. I'mma tell you my is a little different. A Sedona. Sedona got the vortex.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you go to wow places.

[Black Child]

Got the vortex where the Indian spirituality first started. I went up there. That felt so peaceful. Yo, when I came down, I didn't even want to shake nobody's hand or when nobody touched me to bring. That's how peace for it fell damn serious. And then I hiked up there a little bit. Google it. Sedona. Some people know about his vortexes out there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you're going to the thing and that.

[Black Child]

That was like one of the most peaceful places I ever went. I came out that mountain. That felt crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

You might be the Only I know that go to the middle of America. Everybody else I know, I go around the crust of this motherfucker.

[Black Child]

X went to Arizona for a while. X went to Arizona early with Swiss for a while. He was probably one of the first niggas out there.

[Memphis Bleak]

One time I remember looking at the map with the homie and I'm like, yo, I don't think we ever been to the middle of the map. Like, we only the furthest in the middle of America we've been is Chicago, Detroit. Other than that, everything is on the outskirts. Even la, Seattle, Vegas, all that on the outskirts is not over there in North, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

[Black Child]

I might have hit one or twice. Once or twice. See, I knew it. Because rule was big.

[Memphis Bleak]

I knew it.

[Black Child]

Ruger Test, a lot of markets.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Y' all was in the middle of America where them got sundown towns. Yeah, you gotta watch out. Especially you. Me, they gonna keep both of us. We ain't got no wins, nigga.

[Black Child]

That black nigga, like, automatically they getting nerdy like this. This right here, yelling murder, nose all for a fresh side of the jail. All they see is the criminality. That's what I'm saying. They'll see the entrepreneurship, leadership and all the other skills.

[Memphis Bleak]

Don't Dave Chappelle live in Ohio too?

[Black Child]

Yeah, Springfield yellow. Yeah, yeah. Springfield, Ohio. Yellow Springs. He buying up the town out there. You know what I mean? Come on. Having events.

[Memphis Bleak]

You out there. Let's buy him the town too. Right next door could be the Chappelle Black Child. Bleak town.

[Black Child]

Yeah, definitely. Real estate is awesome.

[Memphis Bleak]

Got us, right? She got a ring to it, too. The Chappelle Black Child. BLEEP towel.

[Black Child]

Come on. Yeah, like this. I like that. Come on, man. Facts. Thanks.

[Memphis Bleak]

Come on, man, let's buy us a town out there. So what's life like out there, man? You this peaceful? Is it. Is it like Sedona?

[Black Child]

No, it ain't like Sedona, but I think I was able to slow down. New York was like a lot of every talk, every corner you turn, it was some going on in New York, so you know what I mean? When I got out there, I was able to slow down and just reproach, regrouping and get my business mind together.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's fire. You got a smoke shop, car lot. Anything in the music? You ever with music again, my G

[Black Child]

or you done some in the chamber? Hell, yeah, I got some in the chat chamber, you know what I mean? I'm about to link up with Chink. Yo, I'm doing some other. I got some. But I got a few of the Murder Inc. Producers getting together.

[Memphis Bleak]

I just heard you about to say Ching Santana Y. That's my dog right there, man.

[Black Child]

Well, now, I mean, if I could get fingers in a few of them. Yeah, I'm gonna just cook up something just. Just because.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Black Child]

Every once in a while I keep in the chamber, you know, real artists always working.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm working.

[Black Child]

We need to do one.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I was going to say that to you, bro. It ain't never too late. Me and Smoke Dizza just did a little four pack together, you know what I mean? I got a project with Cool and Dre. I'm working on that Rule just built a studio in his crib. He working. So that's why I'm making sure you working. Oh, jeez. Is back outside, man, right now.

[Black Child]

So we all working.

[Memphis Bleak]

The OG is back outside. Outside my G dots and put some

[Black Child]

together and just smash them one time. Just hit them with a little something. I think the people will appreciate it. Of course, it's authentic and it's from an ever where, you know what I mean?

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[Black Child]

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[Black Child]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

It's like I told my man we can't come back now. Talking about we run the block or we clapping shit down. We gotta get the shorties the game you gon lie. It's your business. Businessman. You're entrepreneur. You're an actor. You do movies.

[Black Child]

You know what I'm saying kids trying to entrepreneur.

[Memphis Bleak]

We want to talk about the life we live now, not the life we lived in. That's a lot of that's a problem with a lot of these rappers are stuck in the past on who they used to be. Don't want to talk about who they are.

[Black Child]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying That's I

[Black Child]

feel good talking about I had fam dinner with my whole family yesterday.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, man and kid that's what life is about.

[Black Child]

Houses helping your community and family members out. They grow because that's what it's about. Because night lasts forever. Like I like I said when one lane so if you got to be able to zoom in and the only way you going to do that is while keeping it authentic. I mean the present.

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me ask you a lot of artists like you know what I mean like and that was in your shoes. My shoes. You hear a lot of disgrunt from a lot of these artists mad at the exact or though this contract wasn't right or this A and R didn't focus on me or this producer didn't give me the beats. Did you ever feel like that like niggas was overlooking you?

[Black Child]

I felt I one time I felt like that. I think a lot of artists go through. I remember one time, right, I was trying to get some beats from different producers in the game. And I didn't know that it was a business side going on. And I romped on every. Every beat that was in the studio to try to force these to give me new beats. Like, all these is done. It probably was 50 beats. I need some. But at the time, it might have been politics behind the game with producers feeling like they want more credit than what Herb was giving them. And I ain't know. I'm just like, damn, it ain't no beats, really. But really, the producers might have been like, oh. Instead. But now they look back, I bet you they happy that they had that opportunity with B. That that whole robbed on the Holla remix came through and killed that one time because he was fire without Gotti. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, bro, so we do gotta rank.

[Black Child]

We do got. So. Yeah. But at that time, I think when they was going through some and transitioning, I felt like that. But looking back and now I know why. Yeah was like, oh, what, we want more money or something? And back then, we want more credit.

[Memphis Bleak]

And back then, producers was getting that bag. Cause I ain't gonna front. I remember when Gotti. Cause you know, he did Infatuated. He sent me the invoice for Infatuated. I remember looking at Hov like, I love that, but not this.

[Black Child]

Mikey, one of my husband.

[Memphis Bleak]

You wild. We giving him this. That nigga like, nah, you know, that's the fam. Just take care of that. I was like, I think I'm on the wrong side of this music shit. I need to start making beats. The fuck yeah.

[Black Child]

Gotti definitely yo production.

[Memphis Bleak]

And he was like, this. The love price a lot of you. I don't think you love me enough like that. It ain't my money. Def Jam. I love y' all niggas. I got a couple jokes.

[Black Child]

Body was a shoe businessman.

[Memphis Bleak]

When they kept those numbers, my.

[Black Child]

He stood firm. That's one thing. Two, he used to alley oop. He was, yo. Selling the insurance. Like, this is what I need.

[Memphis Bleak]

Gotti. I just. I used to think. Just used to happen to me. But I was with Nori recently, and Nori told me a story that happened to him. And I'm like, damn. I ain't even want to say nothing to him. Like, yo, I used to feel that way too. I thought it was just me, but it was him, too. Gotti was so much on. On his bread from Def Jam that. If you came to the crack house to just kick it, you didn't even have to record. If you. If nigga played you a beat. He invoiced you.

[Black Child]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like.

[Black Child]

Yeah, he did. But, you know, we'll be in the

[Memphis Bleak]

office like, yo, you was at the crack house last night. I just went, set it up to John Blacking them.

[Black Child]

I ain't record nothing, of course.

[Memphis Bleak]

Why I gotta pay 1500?

[Black Child]

Yeah, yeah. No, that's how Gotti was on it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Anyway, I'm gonna check Julo.

[Black Child]

Right? You know what? That's the business side of that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

So you know what I did early? That's why I love Gotti. I went and opened up a studio. Studio. My.

[Memphis Bleak]

I early.

[Black Child]

My own studio in the hood. Then I built Gotti. Well, you don't. And you know what he did?

[Memphis Bleak]

He ain't paying you. He paid you.

[Black Child]

Yo, he told me to come back again. I went. I forgot to go back and get some more money. He was like, yo, come see me.

[Memphis Bleak]

I gotta. I think I gotta call.

[Black Child]

Here, take this right now. I took what he gave me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Supposed to.

[Black Child]

No, but he had to take that. Oh, listen, I knew he had me. He told me to come back. I never came back and got it. But let me. Let me speak for one second. I learned the other side forced me to point the. The jewel in that. Is that made Rico open up my own studio.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Black Child]

And charge.

[Memphis Bleak]

Exactly.

[Black Child]

That's the game. No, I mean, I ain't say, oh, my charge went crazy. I said, oh, that's how we gotta eat. Let's go open up a studio.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I'm gonna go and sit down. I'm tell you a story.

[Black Child]

Business, you know? I mean, some people could get like. Some people could be like, oh, yo, when you jerk me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Black Child]

Some with me, I was like, oh, that's how we're eating. I need some extra money. I'm gonna record this at the crib. In the crib basement, and I'm gonna invoice him.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm saying.

[Black Child]

Positive for me.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm about to tell you. I tried that. I think we all tried that. But you rather remember Gotti was different. I think Jay is like, yeah, yeah, little bro.

[Black Child]

It's hard to squeeze that one in, little bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

You went, when did what? So me and Guru, we looking at the studio budget like, yo, you spit xyz. So, you know, Goo was the engineer in A and R. So he go to the office like Bleak. We got this much left in the budget. We should record the album at the crib. Yeah, we could keep all the money. Yeah, you know us. Let's do it. Called the album at the crib. Making up invoices. Trying to turn these invoices in. We give them the Rockefeller. Rockefeller. Gotta give him the def jam.

[Black Child]

Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

[Memphis Bleak]

Invoices never got paid. You know why the invoices never got paid? Because we forgot the number one rule in business.

[Black Child]

Which work.

[Memphis Bleak]

We never opened up a business. We never put an LLC together for them to pay the business. The like. We're not paying y' all individually.

[Black Child]

Like.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, it was like. No, we basically. Yeah, so we basically turned in a free album. 534 was. 534 was a free album straight out. Only people got paid was the producers. No studio time, no engineers, no mixing.

[Black Child]

It's about time for the masters to come back. For my bleak. They better. They better send my masters. We still in the game. What year was that?

[Memphis Bleak]

That was 2005.

[Black Child]

All right. That was.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was the year to fall off too.

[Black Child]

And I thought I was getting for my. To get big homies, get my young.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you see how crazy that is. We thought we was coming up.

[Black Child]

Going get you the masses.

[Memphis Bleak]

Me and Go thought we was coming up, but that was the year to fall off. 2005. Wing yoink y. Yeah, I think.

[Black Child]

I think we got rough force around 03. Around the beef and the police and all of that had got rough for us around then. If you. If you was 05 for like it was for us, it was 03.04. Start changing up. That's when I became an actor.

[Memphis Bleak]

Started changing up.

[Black Child]

I started acting. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Start changing up. I became selling. Selling Doucet. You see me, they got me in the liquor business. You know what I mean?

[Black Child]

Facts.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up, boy. Nah, my. It's a blessing. We came out in the opposite. Opposite side of that man. And we both looking back to give out game from an entrepreneur side now business structured way, way more intelligent. Cuz was ready to let that cannon off at any given second. We used to be out here now riding around out here with licenses for the cannons. We used to be out here in

[Black Child]

the car with 10 cannons that you

[Memphis Bleak]

lay in back then.

[Black Child]

We didn't.

[Memphis Bleak]

We used to have 10 cannons in the car. No, with no license. You barely had a driver's license. That's when they used to let you rent the car. And the memo on the permit. Yeah, barely had driver's license.

[Black Child]

Bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

You didn't even need a license. To get a. The mopeds out here. We used to ride around with the

[Black Child]

stick like this all day, up and down, columns all.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, bro, it ain't like that.

[Black Child]

They got cameras. They got.

[Memphis Bleak]

They only got. The more the police.

[Black Child]

He said they don't even got bikes.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, it's no more bikes.

[Black Child]

No more.

[Memphis Bleak]

Miami is not the Miami.

[Black Child]

We know one store in the whole

[Memphis Bleak]

100 of them ships, everybody, we be

[Black Child]

up,

[Memphis Bleak]

it's no more bikes there. No more, no horns, none of that, man, that.

[Black Child]

I used to love that Miami and then used to take me to. To pork and bean project out there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Not everybody seen pork and Beans.

[Black Child]

Different places. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I used to end up going triangle, all that. Not everybody that come to Miami was able to see pork and beans or, you know, you had to be legendary to see that.

[Black Child]

I remember Trina's sister used to be doing here and some of the apartments in the hood getting money. I was out here since then. I. I end up in spots like that, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

Remember we used to be in the back of Rolex rhyming with tricking them. Hell, wilding back.

[Black Child]

That was when ain't no near drop.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm saying.

[Black Child]

My first experience, Miami, that was like at the highest peak.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, that's when Miami was Miami. When only thing was on the beach was KFC and the Ralph Lauren store.

[Black Child]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was it nothing else on the beach?

[Black Child]

And I think they had a night towel store or something. A night store?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. They need by the Ralph Laurence store. It was like a Nike store right there. You right, my G. Yeah. So what's next, man? You know what? You want to lead the people with my G? Tell them what my black got working, man.

[Black Child]

We working with these films, you know what I mean? And that's the main thing. I'm gonna do some films. I'm gonna work on selling these cars.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Black Child]

My make sure the smoke shop.

[Memphis Bleak]

We coming to buy a car from black.

[Black Child]

I got smoke on the head and I got health on the ad. I'm transitioning. So we gonna be doing Seymour and Elderberry and like that.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's fire.

[Black Child]

Yeah, we transition into health.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's fire.

[Black Child]

So eventually, that's the direction that I want to go, and I want to take this now.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's fire, man. You're looking good, my brother, man.

[Black Child]

Through the grace of God, we still here. That's right, my G. You know, transition. Just keep pushing these movies and keep pushing Hell from money.

[Memphis Bleak]

Got smoke on the Ave out there in Columbus, Ohio. I'm coming out there to buy all of vanilla backwards. They got his stock. So let my let everybody know don't buy them. I'm buying them all black. When you get your car lot I gotta come cop a car. Just because.

[Black Child]

See what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Just because it's your life.

[Black Child]

And guess what? You know what the up is cuz sometimes we rap rappers. I know you got this entertainment that try to hit you with the high price. Think you got it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Black Child]

And that's showing you the love.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, but I know you got the dealer license, you know what I'm saying? And it's the dealer license we gonna sell the you know what I mean?

[Black Child]

Ain't gonna try to bust your head over think as though you eating.

[Memphis Bleak]

We gonna do our thing. My G, I'm pulling up. That's on mommy. I ain't. I ain't never had a good I don't want to say I never had a good time in Ohio. I never been shown a good time in Ohio. You feel me? Because I had a good time. But we in and out. I never had one of the bros there to be like nah, we pulling up this way. We going over here. This the spot we need to be able. Because when you got boots on the ground, it's different.

[Black Child]

Yeah, it's different.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's definitely different.

[Black Child]

Navigate you right to the right location,

[Memphis Bleak]

right food, all of that. That's what I'm saying. So we definitely locked in my G. And from here you know, we bros for life. My always. I love you to the death. My appreciate you pulling up like what I'm glad to see you doing good my you know what I'm saying. Word to God, you know what the it is black child, man. And if you don't know, tap into all that mixtape work. All that murder ain't work. If it wasn't for my black Ja Rule might have went and turned into Teddy P on us.

[Black Child]

Never would have did that. Let me tell you. About Daddy O Daddy always did for the street they brought do some commercial for the ready.

[Memphis Bleak]

Y' all know I don't with him cause he can sing. He know I don't I rapper job

[Black Child]

yeah this job I always say I'm

[Memphis Bleak]

going to go hard.

[Black Child]

I fuck yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

They say come in there and hit you with the Usher bars on this

[Black Child]

control do what I do. He know I'mma just spit.

[Memphis Bleak]

John know we got a battle on the R B. I'm practicing in my up baritone Blizzle

[Black Child]

freestyle.

[Memphis Bleak]

You already know what it is.

[Black Child]

I'mma let y' all ride.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what it is man. It's rock solid, man. And if you on this platform, you know it's only mean one thing. You as a solid man. You certified black child. One of them my brother. High tolerance, rock solid. We in the building. Bang. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding, flag them.

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[Memphis Bleak]

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