Brother Hahz | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek – Episode Summary

Guest: Brother Hahz
Released: September 30, 2025

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Overview

This episode of ROC Solid hosted by Memphis Bleek features a deep, raw, and inspiring conversation with Brother Hahz (aka Haas the Ripper), an underground legend with Roc-A-Fella history and a unique journey from hard-hitting hip-hop stages to gospel artistry. The conversation dives into untold Roc-A-Fella stories, Brother Hahz's near-death experience, his transition to gospel music, and the broader meaning of purpose, impact, and legacy in the culture. The vibe is unfiltered, genuine, and often hilarious, carrying that classic ROC camaraderie and banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brother Hahz’s Roc-A-Fella Days and Early Encounters

• Memphis Bleek’s Introduction
  • Bleek opens with high praise: “To me, he’s a fucking legend. Been shutting down clubs with some of the greats, doing things you wouldn’t even imagine.” (02:19)
• First Meeting with Jay-Z & ROC
  • Hahz clarifies he met Jay through Clark Kent, not from opening, but being brought out mid-set to perform:

    “Jay never let me open up for him. Jay brought me out in the middle of his set.” (04:42)

  • His first performance came unexpectedly at UConn, where nerves got the best of him:

    “I froze, my nigga. Got on stage and fumbled over my rhymes, and him and Dame, like, rolled me the whole ride back.” (05:10)

  • Quickly rebounded, earning a spot on tour after lighting up Millersville, PA.

2. Claiming the Name “Haas the Ripper”

• Name was given by KG of Naughty by Nature, inspired by a rhyme and a nod to LL Cool J:

  “He took that...‘Haas the Ripper.’ He start calling me that, and it stuck. That’s my name.” (09:42)

3. Why No Roc-A-Fella Album?

• Hahz’s formidable live presence led to plenty of shows but no formal deal:

  “Jay never literally signed me to a contract. I never signed.” (12:54)

• On feedback from fans:

  “Dude was like, his problem was he didn’t know how to make songs. He could rap...but he didn’t know how to make songs back then.” (12:41)

• Bleek and Hahz reflect that some on Roc (and their A&Rs) simply prioritized others.

4. A Near-Death Experience That Changed His Path

• Hahz recounts being shot in a drive-by in 2003, mistaking the shots for a tire blowout:

  “I was conscious, but I was shot...The bullet went in and out. But...somebody else got shot the same night and died. That’s when I was like, wow...I just broke down crying right there in the hospital room.” (16:56 - 18:15)

• Reflects on the spiritual reckoning and true wake-up call:

  “My father was shot in the chest and died. I got shot in the chest and the bullet missed my heart by 2 inches...In that moment, God kept me. I knew he had kept me for a reason.” (21:21)

5. Transitioning to Gospel & Purpose-Driven Music

• Hahz pivots to gospel rap, releases six albums since 2005:

  “I started this 20 years ago. ...I just had an epiphany moment at a high school talent show. ...I said I’m not doing regular rap no more. I’m gonna start doing positive music and...glorifying God from here on out.” (19:26)

• Describes the difference in approach:

  “It’s more strategically done because you’re dealing with souls...I’m giving people hope.” (20:14)

6. On Purpose vs. Chasing Money

• Hahz and Bleek discuss how the next generation is motivated:

  “Doing what you doing is all about purpose.” (21:09 - Bleek) “A lot of people feel they don’t have nobody...if you believe in God and...know that He loves you, you’ll be all right.” (23:54 - Hahz)

7. Mental Health, Persistence, and Overcoming Self-Doubt

• Hahz admits to wrestling with depression, rejection, and self-doubt, even considering quitting entirely:

  “A lot of times I felt like I gave up on myself...dealt with rejection, went through depression...So many emotional roller coasters...But the gift never, never subsided.” (25:39)

• Bleek’s message: “Whether it’s 1 or 1 million, the job was done, bro...Don’t ever think it wasn’t.” (29:11)
• Advice for young artists:

  “Don’t ever doubt yourself. Take the risk. The worst thing could happen is it not happen.” (30:17 - Hahz)

8. Behind-the-Scenes Stories & Hip-Hop Realness

• Hahz reveals writing Roy Jones Jr.’s “Y’all Musta Forgot” and working on an album for Bill Cosby (with humor and inside references, 31:05–33:11).
• Lively recollections of early ROC days, club fights (“bottle wars”), and the roles personalities played in their careers.

9. Authenticity, Lyrics, & Cultural Impact

• Hahz: “Just expressing your true self, who you are. ...Not trying to portray yourself to be something you’re not.” (33:30)
• Bleek & Hahz talk about the power of words and impact:

  “Life and death is in the power of the tongue.” (34:28 - Hahz)

10. Advice on Performance and Craft

• On winning a talent show:

  “You have to say things that are impactful...Have presence, pull on the heartstrings.” (36:51)

• Both critique new artists who perform over mp3s and their own vocals rather than live rapping:

  “[They] rap over their own vocals…That’s so crazy. That irks me.” (37:52)

11. Legacy, Success, and Personal Fulfillment

• Hahz wants to be remembered for overall impact, not just bars:

  “I want to be remembered for how I touched your life…the impact that I had on you...All the testimonies that came into my inbox.” (42:33)

• Defines success as personal—seeing his daughter graduate, healthy relationships, not just music accolades.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Jay never let me open up...he brought me out in the middle of his set.” (04:58 - Brother Hahz)
• “The bullet missed my heart by 2 inches, bro. The generational curse was broken in my life because my father was shot in the chest and died.” (21:21 - Brother Hahz)
• “Doing what you doing is all about purpose.” (21:09 - Memphis Bleek)
• “Don’t ever doubt yourself. Take the risk. The worst thing could happen is it not happen.” (30:17 - Brother Hahz)
• “Whether it’s 1 or 1 million, the job was done, bro...Don’t ever think it wasn’t.” (29:11 - Memphis Bleek)
• “I want to be remembered for the impact I had on people’s lives.” (43:43 - Brother Hahz)
• “Life and death is in the power of the tongue.” (34:28 - Brother Hahz)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:36 – Memphis Bleek introduces Brother Hahz (Haas the Ripper)
• 04:42 – Hahz recalls joining Jay-Z’s set, UConn performance
• 09:42 – How KG (Naughty by Nature) gave him his name
• 12:41–13:15 – Why he never released an album with Roc-A-Fella
• 16:55–18:15 – The drive-by shooting, spiritual turning point
• 19:26 – Deciding to switch to gospel rap
• 25:39–29:11 – Depression, self-doubt, and Bleek’s encouragement
• 31:05 – Writing Roy Jones Jr.’s “Y’all Musta Forgot”
• 33:30 – Defining authenticity in hip-hop
• 36:51 – Crafting performance advice for young artists
• 42:33 – Reflection on legacy and wanting to be remembered for impact

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Tone & Style

The episode is dynamic, genuine, and unfiltered—mixing streetwise humor, ROC nostalgia, and motivational energy. Both Bleek and Haas riff, reminisce, debate, and drop wisdom without losing their authenticity or the feeling of brotherhood.

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Closing Thoughts

This ROC Solid episode celebrates unsung hip-hop artistry, resilience, and the spiritual dimensions of culture, through tales never broadcast and honest reflections. Brother Hahz’s journey and impact—voiced here with humor and soul—are a testament to the power of purpose over popularity, and the lasting bonds forged in the ROC era.

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[A]

What's up?

[B]

How you been, my guy?

[A]

I'm here, I'm here.

[B]

Love, man. Good seeing you, man. How you been, bro?

[A]

Been good.

[B]

I know.

[A]

First of all, I just want to thank you for this, man. Come on, this is great. This is great, man. For showing me love. What you did on the Breakfast Club.

[B]

Nah, man, it was due, man.

[A]

That was huge, man.

[B]

Yeah. They asked me, you know, a simple question. Who did I feel didn't get an album or get to just do that he needed. And I'm like, man, my guy Haas, bro. What's up? You know what I'm saying? Cause, bro, from the beginning, I seen you do nothing but shut shit down. And how I met you, I met you after the fact. Cause you don't even know this. I got introduced to you by basically damn near having to hate on you because. Dead ass. Because I went Hollywood after Reasonable Doubt and they clipped me, left me in the projects. That's when Jay did the Biggie tour. Went on the tour with Puff and them. And you went on tour with them.

[A]

Nah, I wasn't on that tour.

[B]

But you did a couple spot dates, I think, with them.

[A]

Nah, I didn't.

[B]

I remember.

[A]

Yeah, I did spot dates with Jay, but it wasn't on that tour.

[B]

That's when I first saw you. I think we was at a Jersey stop. I came to a show and you came out. And I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? And they like a lot of new artists. He on tour with a. Wait a minute. They trying to clip me. Like, what? So that's how I thought it was. Like, they trying to replace me.

[A]

Word.

[B]

So it wasn't that. My guy just was there putting that work in. And I had to respect it, bro, because like I said, my first time seeing you, bro, you went out there, no beat, no nothing. It's been some of the illest shit. Had the crowd going crazy and I'm like, what the fuck is this guy? So how was that for you on the come up, bro?

[A]

Man, it was a great experience, man. Shout out to Jay Z for allowing me that platform, Put me on his platform like that. And a lot of people was thinking, like, and I want to set the record straight to everybody. Jay never let me open up for him. Jay brought me out in the middle of his set.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

Every show he would bring me out in the middle of his set. He never, like, said, go do your thing, and then I'mma go on. He like, prepped the crowd like, yo, I got my man coming out. Blah, blah, blah, how's the rip? Or whatever. And we had some great, great. So many Great, great experiences. I can't even. Can't even, like, go down the line of how many shows. That was just out of this world, man. But the first time Jay put me on, I was telling some of my followers back home, I was telling them how, you know, the first time Jay called me out to perform, we was at UConn. And I froze, Blake. I froze. I froze. I'll never forget, yo, Jay had the white T shirt around his head. He had the orange goggles on, had the cutoff sleeve T shirt, I think. And he was just doing his thing, and I didn't expect him to call me. I was just going rolling. You know what I mean? Rolling with him to the show. And he was like, da, da da, da, da, da da da. He said, how's the ripper? And I promise you, I froze, my nigga. Yo, I got the mic, like, what the hell I'mma do? Like, got on stage and fumbled over my rhymes, and him and Dame, like, rolled me the whole ride back. They was clowning me the whole ride back. That's crazy. But a couple nights later, we went to Millersville, Pennsylvania, to do a show, and actually, Jay was finished with his set. I ain't think he was gonna call me again. And as they was walking off the stage, Dane was like, no house to rippin tonight. And that's when Jay was like, y' all ready for us to go? The crowd was like, no, no, no. He's like, all right, well, I'm bringing my man. Hoist the rip out. And, Blake, I destroyed that place.

[B]

I know, I know.

[A]

It was to the point that the crowd asked for an encore for me to come back on stage.

[B]

No way.

[A]

God is my witness. It was that crazy. So we had some great experiences, man. Then he took me to. That's when he told me, like, you earned yourself a spot on the road and took me to Europe.

[B]

Oh, damn. Yeah, that's where I got left really bad. Yeah, that's where I got left in. It wasn't Detroit. It was Europe.

[A]

Yeah, it was Europe.

[B]

Yo, that's dope, man. But how did you even come into meeting Jada even knowing, like, yo, this guy's ill? I could bring him on my show. Like, what was that interaction?

[A]

So what happened was it was Clark, man. Rest in peace to Clark Kent, man.

[B]

Blast the OG Clark.

[A]

It was Clark Kent. Clark Kent. We was working through him with this girl lady named Gabrielle Smith. She used to work for Job back in the day, and she introduced us to Clark, and that's when I was With a group called Hardware. And Clark was working with us, doing beats for us and everything. Working with us. And that's when he first introduced Jay. Cause I felt like I was like, ain't nobody in the world better than me.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Right. That's how I felt. Like nobody. And Clark was like, yo, I got this dude. He's the Jesus Christ of rap. Ooh, he was talking about J Do.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I never heard him call him that.

[A]

Yes, he. What you call him? What's his name? Oh, what's the guy from Virginia, the rapper name? I can't think of his name. But the rapper from Virginia had told a story about Clark, and he said the same exact thing. That's how I know Clark say that. He said Jay was the Jesus Christ of rap. It's like, man, that nigga ain't better than me. And then he played us some J records. And I was like, wait a minute. This nigga's incredible. So, yo, I never forget. He's like. He did that rhyme about when he had all the rappers in it. You remember that song Bleak?

[B]

No, he was a third. He never made it out, but it was like.

[A]

I think it was like a demo. Demo joint.

[B]

He's like, if you riff on your.

[A]

Ep, you're gonna need an md, so you gots to chill. Cause I chill at will. Like Solid Waters chill at will. Ice Cube. It was crazy.

[B]

Jay always had some ills.

[A]

So that was my introduction to who Jay Z was. And then we had a show at. What was it called? Down Jacob Javits Center. And Jay was there and he saw us perform live. And he was like, yo, them kids is incredible. So that's how my introduction to Jay was. That's when I met Jay. My first interaction meeting Jay was at the Jacob Javitston. Oh, wow.

[B]

And you was with a group. What happened to them?

[A]

The Hardware? Yeah, they doing it there. K Mac. I don't know if you know who K Mac is. Nah, K Mac, he had the Coi Leray he used to manage. Yeah, he managed Coi Leray and now he's doing his thing. He got the girl, the bunny girl. I can't think of her name. I can't think of her name. But he got her. He got her now. Some girl that's doing really good. She doing really good with her songs now. So K. Mac really doing his thing.

[B]

That's what's up, man.

[A]

He was with Missy and everything. Shout out to K. Mac. Yeah, he doing his thing. Heavy.

[B]

How did you come up with the name Hoss the Ripper. I always wondered.

[A]

Yo, that's so funny. Shout out to KG from Naughty by Nature.

[B]

Ooh, big shout out.

[A]

K from Naughty By Nature. Gave me that name.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Cause I had a rhyme. And I was MC Haas at the time. And I said, not Jack Haas the Ripper. Haas the Flipper. The Lyrical, Big Dipper, some junk, right? And he took that. Not Jack Haas the Ripper. Cause you know, LL used to say Jack the Ripper. So he took the. And when I said it in the rhyme, he said, haas the Ripper. He start calling me that. He start calling me that, calling me that. And it stuck. And I said, that's my name. That's gonna be my name. Cause it signified who I was. Like, I ripped stages, I ripped microphones. So that was how the name was.

[B]

It's only a few, a handful of MCs you meet around the world that got Ripper in they name as MCs. And I ain't gonna lie. All of them are legends. Like, there's another guy who passed away in Miami.

[A]

What?

[B]

Mike the Ripper, right? Mike Ripper. Mike Ripper.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

He was your brother. They talk about how ill crazy he was. And when I. When I first heard about him, I'm saying to myself, yeah, y' all need to meet my man, Heist the Ripper. God bless Mike Ripple. You the smoked up. Yo. So what was the moment you knew as a lyricist? Like, these can't with, man?

[A]

High school. I mean, since high school, I think I was confident and very strong about the level of talent I had as a lyricist. I knew from high school that I was going to be something serious. The best with from there. I never lost a talent show. I never lost a talent show.

[B]

That's ill. I remember I did a few talent shows. I never won them. I never won one. I came in second place once and third once. Definitely never came in first. Cause that's when niggas used to be dancing on the bill, too.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

I ain't have no skills like that, so I ain't never win one. But as far as the rap. Oh, yeah, I came in first in that.

[A]

But there you go.

[B]

It was the skill challenge.

[A]

Right, right, right, right.

[B]

I tried to do. I only hit the free throw. I had the hand. I had no handle.

[A]

Gotcha. Gotcha.

[B]

Word, yo.

[A]

Yeah, man. So from high school is when I knew, man. And it just. I just kept at it. And I just, you know, stayed, stayed, stayed. Stayed right and stayed right and stayed right. And I was very hungry back then. You know, you young. You just go hard. And then I got with Naughty by Nature back then and toured with them first. And, you know, story goes on, man.

[B]

Whatever happened with the situation with Roc? A fella, like, why you never put out a album or a single or, like, you know, you was so.

[A]

It's so funny. Somebody put under the comments on your post about. From the. From the Breakfast Club thing. A lot of people said a whole bunch of positive stuff. And this comment wasn't even bad. It was just, like, construction. Constructive criticism.

[B]

I love those.

[A]

Yeah. Dude was like. His problem was he didn't know how to make songs. He could rap his behind off, but he didn't know how to make songs back then. And I remember, like, hip hop. And, you know, they always liked hip hop was like. They was. They had a little. That's tough. Yeah, they had a little, like, issue with me as far as making songs, so that's probably why I never put out an album. We never literally signed a contract. Jay never literally signed me to a contract. Nah, I never signed.

[B]

And you touched the stage. You went on the little. Couple shows with him, and you went on tour. God damn, man.

[A]

I was just roll.

[B]

I was rolling the cheat code, my G. Yeah, I had no. I don't think I was signed. He didn't have no label when we first started doing Coming Age. It wasn't until. It's all right. But, yeah, that ink was dry, right?

[A]

So that's. That's. That's why I never put an album out because, for one, I wasn't ever really signed, but I think I was, like, more hungry. And they was, like, pushing more of the patient method with me, trying to put me to the back burner for a minute. No. Excuse me. I was young enough. I was young and hungry, man. I was ready to roll, ready to rock. Yeah. And they was, like, not ready for that at that moment.

[B]

So. They put you with one of the toughest A rs, though, man. Hip hop.

[A]

Yeah, Hip hop, my dog. And shout out to hip hop, too. Cause I heard you shout me out on another podcast.

[B]

Hip hop was tough, man. Hip hop never. He never gave me a beat. He'd call me in for a verse on somebody else. Shit. But he ain't never come in my session and give me a beat like, yo, Bleak, I think this beat for you, right? Like, I don't think hip. Nah, he wasn't checking for that. He was. He was state property. Hov, you Know he was mainly hov A and R Lenny. That was it. That's really. Who came through on my sessions, Lenny. Just like, that was it. Then it was guru from there.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, that's crazy, man. Like, so I know you said. I got confused because I thought you was into the ministry thing. Like, he not a pastor, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

All right, players up. I fucked up. All right, players up, right? He don't got a church. He just talk in the churches. So to me, he got a church. So we ain't up on that part. Cause if you ever see me grab the mic in the church, believe me, I'm gonna tell you, that was my church. Believe me. Only person gonna know I'm lying is the pastor and Jesus Christ himself. Okay, but how did you make that transition from, you know, from doing the rap that we was doing to. You said you got into the gospel, right?

[A]

So, yeah, I'm a gospel recording artist, brother haas. I got six albums out right now. I started this 20 years ago, 2005. What happened was I was actually about to get a solo deal with. I had a couple of meetings with Def Jam. I don't know who the other. It was two labels, though. I had two deals on the table. But what had happened was September 19th. Never forget the date. 2003. I got hit in the drive by shooting.

[B]

No way. No.

[A]

The hell?

[B]

No, I ain't know that. What the hell, Blake?

[A]

I got shot, bro.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Meant for you or just on Wrong place?

[A]

Wrong place, wrong time. Yeah, I was actually on my lunch break at work.

[B]

Know what? Damn, that's crazy.

[A]

I had just put a mixtape out. The whole hood was going crazy over the mixtape. And I walked to the corner on my break, and all these niggas from the hood from townhouses in Newark, they like, yo, Haas, blah, blah, blah. Yo, that mixtape crazy, blah, blah, blah. So talking to all the music stuff. So I'm sitting there kicking it with him, and then I said, yo, we gotta get back. Told my co worker. Cause we walked down there together, like, we gotta get back to the building, man. He's like, all right. And when we went to cross the street, car turned the corner, and I heard this real deep sound.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

But it sound like a tire blew. It ain't sound like a gunshot to me. I was like, damn, somebody tire blew. And then I started hearing boom, boom. And I said, oh, snap, they shooting. So everybody scattered, and I became the only one bleep. Walking, running, like, running down the street. It's like a scene from A movie. I'm running down the street going the same way the car was driving. All the shots is being shot at me. Cause everybody else done scattered, so they like, baga baga paga, just shooting at me. And then I dove. And only thing I remember, it was, like, in slow motion. I looked up, all I saw was the gun sticking out the window. And they wrote. I couldn't even tell you what kind of car it was. Damn. And I got up, and I start blacking on the cats from the hood, talking like, yo, y' all niggas in the beef. And y' all ain't tell me, word.

[B]

Up, what the freak y' all doing?

[A]

Like, I start blacking on me. It's like, you guys like, yo, where my man Leroy at? That was my co worker. I was like, where Leroy at? I'm bugging out, thinking something happened to him. Then he come running up the street like, yo, I'm all right. I'm all right. He said, how's you all right? I said, yeah, I'm good, man. I said, y' all don't. And I do like this. And I tap, and I tap my hand, and my whole left hand's filled with blood. Damn. Lift up my shirt like something. Like. Something like the rock side, but had, like, a split in my chest like this.

[B]

No damn.

[A]

No exaggeration. No cap.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And, yeah, man, I was shot. I was conscious, but I was shot. I sat there waiting for the ambulance. They took too long. Told my man go get his car. Took me to the. To the hospital. And, yeah, I made it. Thank God. The bullet went in and out. I was all right. But the crazy thing, Blake, this is what made the transition for me to rethink the direction I was going with my music. Somebody else had got shot that same night and was in a room next to me, had got shot in the chest as well and died. And a doctor came in and told me. And that's when I was like, wow. I just broke down crying right there in the hospital room. And then, you know, I went home and just kind of like, you know, was reflecting on my life. Like, man, God, what is you trying to tell me? Because I've always been a believer in God, man. I've been to church since I was a kid, so I always believed in God. So I just had an epiphany moment at a kids at a high school talent show. Actually. I was booked as the special guest, and I performed this positive record, and, like, a whole row of girls was just boohoo, crying. In the middle of my performance, I had no clue. They came backstage after the show, said, yo, that song touched us so much.

[B]

No way.

[A]

And I said, yo, this is it. This is it. So I said, I'm not doing regular rap no more. I'm start doing positive music and, you know, glorifying God from here on out. That's how. That's how it happened.

[B]

See? God bless that you still here.

[A]

Word up.

[B]

Word up, man. But that's how I had to disconnect, because I see you at the churches performing sometimes speeching, doing the speeches. But then you changed your name to brother H. So it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. My guy got it. He in. He in there. He all the way in. He present back. He went there.

[A]

He got his whole church going, like.

[B]

But the gospel rap, like, how you feel? Like, what's the difference you feel is going to the studio to do that opposed to how it was going to the studio just to talk? You know, the ignorance we took.

[A]

It'S more. It's more strategically done because you're dealing with souls.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And you have people that's going through stuff in life, and you have to be very sensitive to that. So when I'm writing and when I'm coming up with different concepts or God is giving me dropping different types of songs to create, I'm very sensitive and very, like, strategic with the writing and just being very careful to make sure that I'm. I'm giving people hope. I'm being a voice for. For whatever they're dealing with, you know? So. So that's. That's my. That's my angle on how I go about the writing.

[B]

I was like, you basically answered my next question, because I was going to say, what's this? Almost the same question, but, like, what's the. Is. Do you think there's a difference of, like, how artists today, we come up in the industry and, you know, first thing they think, yo, I got to get to the bag. I got to get to the bag.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But doing what you doing is all about purpose.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

So there you go. There you go.

[B]

How did you separate the two? Because a lot of people out here don't even know what they purpose. They just think their purpose is to get money.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Right. I mean, I think what happened for me is, like, once. Once God spared me, like, because the bullet missed my heart by two inches, bro. Like, literally. And the generational curse was broken in my life because my father was Shot in the chest and died. That's how my father died. And I got shot in the chest and the bullet missed my heart by 2 inches. So in that moment, God kept me. I knew he had kept me for a reason.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

You know what I mean? So that's how that went, man.

[B]

Nah, that's what's up, man. That's crazy. You inspired a whole generation of artists. When it come down to freestyling now with your word, all of that, man, what do you think the culture is missing when it comes down to everybody is. Everybody defines living right? In their own way.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Everybody thought of righteous is not. Isn't everybody thought. It's not the same.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

What do you think? How can we, you think, fit that into the culture to where these kids. Because these kids need some something to believe, right?

[A]

You got to speak their language, man. You got to speak it. Speak their language. And you got to dig into the root of where they're having these issues from these. A lot of these kids are traumatized from their upbringings with their parents. Things that happen to them as children that they still live with that they haven't faced. A lot of kids don't go to therapy and communication. A lot of kids don't talk. They hold a lot of stuff in and they wait for situations to happen to their life to just burst out into all these different emotions, you know what I mean? So I think you just have to, you know, deal with from that angle. You gotta really dig into the root of what's going on with these kids, man, and talk and talk about the issues that they're dealing with.

[B]

Nah, definitely, man. I think it's like I always say, everybody have a gift. Just have to find out what it is and find out how to use it.

[A]

That's facts, you know what I mean?

[B]

So, like, when you out and you doing these speeches, do you. Do you do speeches at schools or just at churches?

[A]

I mostly, like, do performances and I speak. Speak in between the songs, like, you know what I mean? And I like. I'll talk. I'll give the reason behind this song or why it was written or whatever the case may be, but I really just talk through my songs, man. And I performed at high schools and everything.

[B]

It's crazy what you would say. Your main message is that you want the people because it's adults, children, everything there. That what you want them to walk away with the message, like, get a.

[A]

Relationship with God, get religious, whoever your God is. My God is Jesus Christ. I'm not Knocking nobody's religion, but get a relationship with God because a lot of people feel they don't have nobody who they feel that loves them. So if, you know, you believe in God and have a God that you love, that you know and that know that loves you, you'll be all right, man. You'll be all right. You have someone to go to, talk to.

[B]

See, man, you should be a. A pastor, man.

[A]

I'm not a pastor.

[B]

Give me a church to go to, man. I gotta know the pastor, man. These pastors now wear jor. I know they right.

[A]

I said, hey, listen, none of us is perfect bleak because we a church. We all trying to walk right.

[B]

Bleak, bro, listen, you cannot be at.

[A]

The Enemy is heavy out here, man.

[B]

And James, like, come on. I can't even.

[A]

Where say that. You can't bleep.

[B]

No, it. Don't say it. It's just, you know, you can't.

[A]

Like, where's the formality of how you dress for church? Tell me. The Bible says nowhere. Please do not.

[B]

Be.

[A]

You not conformed to Jordan's.

[B]

Yo, but hold on now. So the next speech. I want to see you in the fe Lava lawsuit. I want to see you pull up.

[A]

Dress down, though you saw I just performed yesterday.

[B]

Nah, I ain't.

[A]

And I had on joints. I had on joints.

[B]

Glee, pick me up.

[A]

Chill. I had on joints, he said.

[B]

I had on Joyce, I had on.

[A]

Jeans, and I had on Jorge.

[B]

See, but you not a pastor.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

But you was given the word.

[A]

But I was given the word through rap.

[B]

I fucked with it, man. I love what you doing, man.

[A]

That's what's up.

[B]

Yo, at any moment, any time in this journey that we've been on in life, do you think there's a moment you ever felt like you wanted to give up?

[A]

Like, stop music in total, man. I don't even wanna go down that route. That's an emotional. That's an emotional road to go down. But, yeah, Blake, I really have, like, I really. A lot of times I felt like I felt like I gave up on myself. It's like I dealt with rejection a lot. I went through depression. I felt like I was. In my own way. It was a lot of things that I went through, man, that. That. That. So many emotional roller coasters that I went down, man, because of different seasons of my life, feeling like, this should be me. This should be me. I should be here. I should be there. Because the gift never, never subsided. Like, it never weakened. Like, it just got stronger. Like, I still Was top tier in every aspect of my gift.

[B]

Yes, you did.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I can perform at a club on Saturday and do a Hosta Ripper record and have a crowd go crazy and go tomorrow, Sunday morning and perform at a church and everybody be in worship. Not too many people can do that.

[B]

Heck, no. No, no, no. You right, you absolutely.

[A]

So, like, just knowing that about myself and just. It not. It just not, you know, just never getting over that hump. Yeah, it made me, like, want to just like. Because I didn't. Then fear stepped in. Now it's the fear of having all these situations you had in the past that never worked out for you. You just jumping out there, just jumping in the middle of water, hoping something gonna happen and fear and just scared to try because you don't want to deal with that again. You don't want to go through that experience.

[B]

But like they say, it's almost like love. I'd rather have had love than to not have had it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you have to try. Nothing is guaranteed, nothing in this world. Like, that's one thing. That Biha, my manager back in the day, you know what I mean? He used to always say to me, like, this is just a dream. You know what I mean? Like, Jay was signed to Priority Records at this time, and he was like, yo, bleep, this is just a dream. Rockefeller Records, it may not never happen. How about Jay drop these records and nobody give a fuck who he is. Rock Fella might not never come to fruition. So you got to start thinking of life if that never happens, right? And I remember looking at him like, I don't think I could think that far, right? You know, cuz, it's like, if this don't happen, then I don't know what else to do.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You know what I mean? So it's like, you don't know. You uncertain, but you have to try. Like I said, people look at it and be like, yo, bleak, you had the illest career. You had this. But then you get niggas up there that be like, yo, he was the wackest nigga on Rockefeller. Like. And it's like, at least I threw my hat in the race. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I say about you, bro. Like, to you, you probably didn't think, yo, I got as far as I needed to, but God put you right where you was supposed to be, right? Like, that's one thing. I look at it like, yeah, I wanted to be triple platinum, right? I was one of them. All this struggling to go, go, you know what I'm saying? Like, but that's where I was, right where I was supposed to be, right? To get me to these moments, you know what I'm saying? So don't never think, doubt yourself, bro.

[A]

It happens, though.

[B]

It's a natural instinct outside. You inspired me, bro. Seeing what you used to do, you made me. You made me realize punchlines mean a big factor. Because you used to go up there and say, the whole crowd like, oh, I'll be like, God damn, he murdered that. So, you know, like, whether it's 1 or 1 million, the job was done, bro. You know what I'm saying? So don't think it wasn't. Yeah, the job was done. You accomplished what you needed to accomplish. That's why we sitting here talking. Because you affected me. God knows what other person in the crowd or any other show you did that you affected that cell speaking about you the same way. They just don't have the cameras on, right? You know what I'm saying? So the job is done, bro. Don't ever, don't ever think it's not my G100. So with that being said, though, like, going through that dark time, like you said, the fear and all that, what. What advice would you give a young and up and coming artist who might doubt himself the same way?

[A]

Like you just said, don't ever doubt yourself. Like, you answered the question. Like, don't doubt yourself. Take the risk. Take the risk. That's. I mean, the worst thing could happen is it not happen.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

You never know. It won't happen until you try.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So you gotta take the risk.

[B]

And did faith play a big part in reshaping this path? Like your whole new path was your faith?

[A]

Yeah, that's always. Yeah, always had my faith, man. That's. That's what that kept. That. That keeps me keep my head up, bro. You know that and my daughter. You know what I mean? My faith in God and my daughter is the two things that keep me going. You know what I mean? So. Yeah, and like, God blessed me, man. Cause, like, I was. I don't even know if you know. Remember I did the song for Roy Jones. Y' all must have forgot.

[B]

I forgot you wrote that.

[A]

Yeah, word.

[B]

I forgot you wrote that. Y' all must have forgot. Knock on their. Yo, you have Roy talking that shit. Yeah, that's my shit too.

[A]

Word.

[B]

I must have forgot you killed that, bro. Word.

[A]

Yeah, so I Had that. Had that whole situation with Roy Jones.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a lot of people don't know. I wrote an album for Bill cosby.

[B]

Bill cosby was trying to spit.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

Like, nah.

[A]

He was just like, the face behind it, actually. My man at that. I just. The man. My man. My man Jace is here. My man that I did the album with. Me and him did it together.

[B]

I'm about to say, you can't sell us jello. And then be like, I was on the blitz. Nah, fam, nah.

[A]

He was. He was. He was putting a positive message out there, like, you know, speaking hope, trying to, you know, help the community. You know what I mean? And we put a album out. It never came. It really never came out.

[B]

Right. Jace sort of dropped.

[A]

Yeah, we performed on Jay leno and everything.

[B]

Oh, no way.

[A]

Yeah, we performed on Jay leno with the album major. We did NBC morning show. We did a few things with that Bill Cosby. It was called cosnerati Cosnarati. Yeah.

[B]

That was the day with the album. Hell, Cosby was trying to put his print on shit out here.

[A]

Yeah, we did an album. Bill Cosby came to Newark, sat down with us in the room, and just went on.

[B]

That's when they started watching Bill. That's when they was like, we gotta get him outta here. That's when they got hot. Once you get into the rap game, you see they giving rappers rico. Bill was the first. We just didn't know.

[A]

They was.

[B]

Bill did the fittings. They like, Newark got him.

[A]

Oh, snap.

[B]

And he named the album cosarati. I would have been like, watch him, daddy. Watch him. He bucking over there.

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah, that's hilarious.

[B]

What do you think defines authenticity in hip hop today?

[A]

Just expressing your true self, who you are. I think that's it. When you. You just being your true self, you're not trying to portray yourself to be something you're not.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

You're just being very vulnerable, very open with who you are, what type of person you are, you know, from. From your strengths and your weaknesses. Just being who you are, that's authenticity. Your authenticity, man. That's it. Like expressing who you are.

[B]

A lot of these artists today say stuff just. I think they. To me, I feel like a lot of rappers just say things to just rhyme just to sound cool. I don't think they think about the consequences of their words. Like, you know what I mean? Like, how serious is something? Cause, you know, like you said, when you doing the gospel, you talking to souls, you talking about people's life so you know you got the consequences of your actions and your words is serious. So what would you say to people that you think should.

[A]

Should be more conscious that life and death is in the power of the tongue?

[B]

That's a fact.

[A]

That's what they need to know and understand.

[B]

That's a fact. Speak life. You got to speak life.

[A]

Exactly. You have to be very conscious of your words, cuz. Words have power.

[B]

That's a fact.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Yeah, man. So do you ever see, like, the spiritual impact, like, things that you've been through? Like, do you think that would ever. Like I asked you this earlier, but I think it's a way for some type of conscience back into our culture. I think that's where we lost our way. It's no consciousness. People just shooting in the dark, eyes closed, hoping anything hit. So do you feel like we could ever restore the feeling, man? Like, if just honesty in music, it's possible?

[A]

I think. I think it depends on the music itself. Like, it has to be dope at the end of the day. Bleep. It has to be something that's very catchy. People gotta be able to relate to it. It has to pull on the heartstrings of people. Like, you have to make those type of records.

[B]

With you saying that a artist today, he got a talent show. Say this right? I'm a young kid right now, 13, 14 years old. I got a talent show coming up. I'm like, yo, I gotta kill this dog. I gotta write the illest bars I got. What, what, what would you give? What advice would you give that kid to ensure, like, to let him know. Nah, this how you go in there. Shut down.

[A]

Sign up to my writers academy.

[B]

Yeah, shout it out, cuz. What's the name for the writers? Whatever the. We start one today. Yeah, they need a coach.

[A]

Sign up to my. Yeah, sign up to my writers academy. Listen, I'll get you right, get you.

[B]

Right, right as academy, we just got the name llc. Y' all hear it get you right. Writers academy sign up now. Don't worry. The ink dry soon as we said it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Your guys in the back drew up the LLC paperwork.

[A]

Take care of that right now.

[B]

You know you can do LLC on your phone right now. It's good, it's done right. But nah, for real, man. What type of advice would you give that kid at the writers academy?

[A]

I would just teach them how to just have to be. Like, when you performing in front of people, you have to have presence and you have to say Things that are impactful. Like I said, you have to pull on the heartstrings of the people. You can't say nothing to have people that sit there like, what is he talking about? You have to. You have to come from that angle. I always try to come from that angle. I'm pulling on the heartstrings. I'm saying something that make people be like, wait a minute. What?

[B]

What's this?

[A]

You have to have that type of mindset when you come in, when you talk about performing in front of people. Getting a crowd to like you is not. That is. Or to enjoy your performance is one of the hardest things to this day. And most. A lot of artists that you love and know still have trouble with that. Yeah, they still can't rip a show.

[B]

No, that's a fact.

[A]

They songs like, really, Max. Their, like, it's the songs that make their performances get by. It ain't them.

[B]

These kids perform over the MP3. They don't even perform just instrumental.

[A]

No, they rap over their own vocals.

[B]

Yes. That's insane to me.

[A]

That's so crazy. That irks me.

[B]

Yeah. That's like going to the club and just playing Apple music at the show. Like, fuck it, huh?

[A]

Right?

[B]

I know Milli Vanilli pissed. I know they somewhere like, y' all shitting me, right?

[A]

I was doing this 20 years, 30 years, 40 years. I put these niggas on, right?

[B]

They need some money. Yeah.

[A]

He took his a. Reparations. They need some reparations.

[B]

That's a fact, yo.

[A]

Word.

[B]

So, yo, when the Hostile Ripper chapter get told, how do you ensure. Do you feel like people gonna have to read it twice?

[A]

Definitely.

[B]

That's how real it is.

[A]

Definitely.

[B]

I believe so.

[A]

Definitely.

[B]

I believe so, bro. Because like I said, you played a major role in the beginning of formation of Rockefeller. Cause it's like, soon as I came off the promo run with Rel and Diamonds in the Rough, they left me in the hood. Y' all went on tour, and then we were shooting Hard Knock, like video in Marcy Wild. Then we in the club, they throwing bottles. We had the ill fight with Fat Joe and them. Remember?

[A]

Right. Oh, yeah. That was crazy, yo. That was crazy.

[B]

That was bottle wars.

[A]

We ran out together. I was like, yo, I was telling niggas, like, don't run, don't run.

[B]

Yo, we get out the club, nobody was there. We like, where everybody at? Yo, it was bottle wars like a motherfucker. Now, look, Fat Joe down. I just seen them today.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

They want me to come on the show. I told them we gonna joke. I'm be up there. I'm captain.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you. Your podcast interviews be so dope, yo. You should do, like, a podcast tour. Just. Just go on a different podcast because, yo, your junk is so, like, entertaining and, like, intriguing. Like, everybody be like, your stories be immaculate, bro. Your stories are like.

[B]

I just try to tell it like it is, man. And be real, though.

[A]

That's what the. That's what's so dope about it.

[B]

You know what's so crazy? Jay told me years ago, right angle was like, yo, why you don't put your personality in your music? And I'm like, yeah, man, what you mean? When you cut that mic off og Bobby Johnson, nigga, fuck you talking about? I'm not fucking Curtis. I'm not no rapper. Like, I'm not no comedian. But when we, you know, we joking. And Anakin Jay said, yo, you don't get it, man. When the world see your personality bleak, your life gonna change.

[A]

Wow. Yeah, you got it. You got it, bro. You got it.

[B]

I guess this is the way, because.

[A]

I'm intrigued to see the new joint you got coming on drink chats. Because I saw the little content, and I was like, bleak. Doing it again. He's doing it again.

[B]

Yeah. No, man.

[A]

And that's why they keep having you. Cause you really, like. You do very well with those.

[B]

Appreciate it, man.

[A]

Super dope.

[B]

Super. Thank you, bro. Super dope. Yo, I had Nick Cannon on here. He looked at me and was like, yo, man, you really got a talent for this shit. Like, he looked at me like, nigga, I think I gotta have you on my show. Like, word. So people say, this is my calling. I'm a very.

[A]

Like you. Very. A very organic and genuine person. I never forget the first time, like. Cause every time I used to get around Jay, I was nervous. Like, I used to be. I get around Jay, and I used to be nervous. I remember one day. I don't remember, we was at the office or something, and something happened, and you said something, and you snapped at Jay. And I was like, no way. Like, nigga, I ain't.

[B]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

You told me. You told me and Jay be like, nigga, blah, blah. Like, y' all went back and forth. I'm sitting there like, oh, snap. This nigga snapped that J. Like, I said, oh, they really got. I said, they really got a relationship.

[B]

We still be on it, man.

[A]

I just really got a relationship.

[B]

My daughter. Cause you know, hov be on some bullshit Hov don't be the one to take pictures if it's not like a professional. You pull out that iPhone HOV, like, it gotta be professional. Like, if there's a professional camera there, he gonna snap away that iPhone pic. He looking at you like, you know better. But my daughter ran down on him. It was like, I want a picture. So I looked at him like, don't do it. Tell her no. You gotta shoot five.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

So it was. That was cool. But, man, Jay is crazy with certain shit, man. He definitely. We definitely always had that Marcy relationship, and I love that, that we never let that waver. No matter how famous or whatever niggas been through, still gonna see you and be like, hey, you suck. Well, you soft. You ain't doing nothing. You ain't out here. You soft.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

I love that about Jay.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So what do you think you want to be remembered for? You want to be remembered for. You think your transition now or the bars? How you was the bar?

[A]

God, I. I want to just be remembered for brother Haas the Ripper. Like, I just want every aspect of my talent. You know what I mean? It's not just about just the bars, like. Cause I've impacted so many people on the gospel side, so I would never just want to be like, oh, just remember me for my bars. No, remember me how. I want to be remembered for how I touched your life. You know what I mean? The way the impact that I had on you, all the testimonies that came into my inboxes from different parents on how my music got the. Yo. One dude delivered his baby. His. They had a dua labor type thing where they. The mother was sitting. I mean, in the water type thing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, they got the water birth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know what it's called, but, yo, he's.

[A]

He's like. He's playing my music in the background while his wife is giving birth to their child.

[B]

That's insane, bro.

[A]

Dude, and then you messing up, and.

[B]

Then you thinking you didn't achieve what you was to.

[A]

Supposed.

[B]

Supposed to.

[A]

Man, that jump was crazy.

[B]

Come on, man. Look at.

[A]

That was incredible.

[B]

I never. They not playing nothing to bleak during no birth. Listen, trust me, there's no song I ever made that's getting played during childbirth.

[A]

Yeah. So, like, stuff like that, man. Just like, I want to be remembered for the impact I had on people lives, man.

[B]

And that's. That's a blessing. That's the blessing right there, man. Like, I want to know. Excuse me. My definition of success to me is health and the smile you put on people faces. Well, how do you define success to you?

[A]

Good question. Success is. Wow. Watching my daughter graduate from college. Cool. Nah, let's change this. Cause I'm about to start getting emotional.

[B]

Nah, nah, I' ma make it funny for you. Cause success to me, I watch my son graduate, but that nigga graduated just to ask me to help him get a job. So it's like, hold on. How much success is it, homie? Hold on.

[A]

It's a little bit of success.

[B]

Success, like, that sucks right now. Yeah, like, we need to find cess now.

[A]

Like, it's outside of the, like, music for me. Like, it's like me as a man, me as a father, you know? I mean, just watching my daughter grow up from childhood, you know, like me. Me, two inches from almost not being able to watch her whole journey from a child to an adult because I could have lost my life, you know what I mean? Just to see her graduate from college.

[B]

That'S a blessing, you know?

[A]

I mean, and with high. With high honors and all of that, and. And actually moving to her own place and continue schooling, go to grad school to finish, to get her masters, man, that's the success I like. That's. That's what success is for me watching.

[B]

My daughter, and that's what it is, man. But now I know that you got a daughter that graduated school to move, moved out, did all that. So you one more name on my list for therapy. Cause my daughter is seven. All I'm doing is buying guns. Every year, I buy a new gun.

[A]

Let me tell you. I'm gonna be honest with you, Blake. Your daughter's seven years old. I'm gonna keep it straight, G. With you. You got about four years.

[B]

It's over.

[A]

No, I'm gonna give you six. Six, five.

[B]

Five.

[A]

About five. I give you five. By the time she 12. It's gonna hurt.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Ooh, bleak is gonna hurt. I know she ain't beat for daddy no more. I know she ain't gonna be beat no more. Yo, she gonna have her own little circle of friends, dude. It's gonna be a rap.

[B]

Damn, man. Yo, I heard this, though, before. When I first met my wife, my son was like.

[A]

I went through it. They come back, though.

[B]

Yeah. My son was like 6 years old when I first met my wife. And she was like, damn, that's dope. The relationship you got with your son. And she was like, you better enjoy that. Cause in like, five, six years, all that hanging out with daddy on the weekend, he gonna be like, pops, I'm with my friends. Can we hang out next weekend? And then next week it gonna turn into, I forgot dad. And that's how it is today. I gotta call him to be like, yo, what's up, homie? You ain't checking how Pop's doing?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

He called me and I know.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

That's all he tapping. He want that Zell.

[A]

Right? That's all they be wanting.

[B]

You want that Z? Okay. Nah, man. Hots, man, I appreciate you pulling up, man. Like I said, bro, you've been a staple to Rockefeller. Without you, it wouldn't have been the direction I think I went in my career. You played a major role in my life. Not only as a friend, as a label mate, you know, the shows, everything we, we've been through, the tours, and to see what you doing now, bro, I, I, I commend everything you do, bro.

[A]

I appreciate it. And I want the people to know, like, me and Bleak wasn't in communication before he even stated my name on the Breakfast Club word. We weren't even in communication. No, this was just genuine, genuinely just mentioning me and giving me my flowers. And I'm like, super, like, grateful for that, bro. Nah, man, seriously.

[B]

Seriously. And that's why when you hit me, I'm like, bro, you gotta pull up the rock solid, man. Like, for real, man. Bro, that's what this platform is for, man. Brothers like you, myself, the ones who stayed the same, never wavered, you know, we, we shot. The shot might have not hit the target, but it landed somewhere, right? Like I said, when there's Wet, whether it's 1 or 1 million, right? The job was done.

[A]

Amen.

[B]

Because when you first started rapping, bro, you ain't think nobody was, you know, wasn't guaranteed.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So to even accomplish 10 people, 20 people, like, yo, that you won my G. Appreciate that. Word up, man. And I'm glad to see you still doing your thing, my brother. Let them know where they can find you. Where you giving the good word at.

[A]

On the beats, though, you know, Like I said, I got six albums that's on itunes, man. Just look under Brother Haas. Haas is spelled H A H Z. It should be spelled on the YouTube channel.

[B]

Anyway, we gonna have it spelled. Don't worry. We got a little bit of Brad on here.

[A]

Now we can put your name under you, right? So, brother H on all platforms, brother. Underscore highs on ig. Follow me, follow me on Facebook. And yeah, that's about it, man. And I'm working on My last album, last album is called I hope this helps. Look out for that in 2026.

[B]

That's going to be a big record.

[A]

Big, big wreck.

[B]

Come on, let me get a verse. I. I think I got some little bit of. I got a little bit of righteousness to talk a little something. I'm not gonna go gangster on them. I'll give him some righteousness.

[A]

I get a regular freestyle.

[B]

No curses.

[A]

You got something?

[B]

He got.

[A]

Yeah, okay, go ahead.

[B]

Nah, not right now. No, I got, like you said, it gotta be thought playing with souls, right? You gotta be strategic. I won't be the soul snatcher, dog. Won't be the soul healer, yo. And with that being said, that's a wrap, man. We appreciate Doucet always being the sponsor holding us down. We appreciate drink champs, black effects. I heart and I definitely appreciate my brothers at home team.

[A]

Hold up, let me get the church. Mad Doucet.

[B]

Yo. He turned into wine, baby. We doing the same. We over here at home team. You need them fresh kicks. You need that drip. Pull up the home team.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Don't be scared of Dyckman, though. It's rock solid. We outside. Yeah.

[A]

Peace.

[B]

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