Cousin E | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek: Cousin E (October 21, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this episode of "ROC Solid," Memphis Bleek welcomes his longtime friend and “cousin,” Cousin E—a Philly legend with deep ties to Roc-A-Fella history. They reminisce about wild road adventures, Roc-A-Fella slang, legendary parties, and the grind from backstage hype-man to Philly’s top party promoter and beyond. The episode rings with nostalgia, hip-hop insider stories, blunt jokes, and honest reflections on loyalty, hustle, and what it means to be "ROC solid"—all in the fast, lively banter Bleek is known for.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Origin of "Cousin E"

• How did E get his name?
  • E’s real name is Irving, so the nickname stuck through crew wordplay, not initial logic.
  • “My name, Irving, start with I... So Dean's was like, nah, that name ain't right... he just started calling me E. Like, let's see if it stick with you. And it stuck.” —Cousin E, [03:19]

2. Road Stories: Early Roc-A-Fella Days

• Bleek’s first solo show and building the team
  • Bleek recounts trusting Demarco and Cousin E on the “Hard Knock Life” Tour, which launched E’s journey as hype-man and DJ.
  • Hilarious stories of hiring (and firing) security, and on-the-road antics—joining the ‘mile high club,’ wild groupies, and friendly crew competition:
    • “You the only that joined the Mauha...Met the kill at the gate...that’s legendary, cuz.” —Memphis Bleek, [05:53]
    • “Jay and Dane, they wanted to raise. We was going to San Francisco...put it on the radio. They gave me a shout out.” —Cousin E, [05:57]

3. Philly Meets New York: Crew Culture and Slang

• “Y’all bought mad slang, too, when y’ all came — all that ‘Joe,’... Everything is the jaw. Everything. I don’t care if you got the girl, the gun, the car... the sneaker is the jaw. And you gotta know, you gotta listen to the sense.” —Memphis Bleek, [07:18]
• Reflections on how Philly culture and vernacular reshaped the Roc-A-Fella circle.

4. Memorable Studio Sessions & Lost Footage

• The infamous "Crew Love" session at Quad Studios and a VHS that disappeared into ROC folklore:
  • “I had all that recorded...I never got the tape back.” —Cousin E, [09:14]

5. Tour Life and Women: The Groupie Olympics

• Bleek and E swap stories about women (flowers, underwear, and even firearms as gifts) and the wild, competitive adventures on the road:
  • “Remember Beans got a gun bought to him? ...a brand new .380 in the box... I’m like, damn, nobody never, not nobody bought me a gun.” —Memphis Bleek, [12:16]
• Legendary private jet flights, parties with high-rolling fans, Ferraris and Lambos in Miami, and wild mishaps trying to out-flex other rappers.
  • “That’s how you know when fronting goes wrong…we thought we burnt out the clutch in the Lambo.” —Memphis Bleek, [17:53]

6. From Hype-man to Party Promoter

• Bleek grills E about switching from stage support to dominating Philly nightlife:
  • “One day…you call...yo, I throw parties now. I’m a party promoter. Like, oh shit. N went from on the stage and now it’s my party. I’ma do what I want now.” —Memphis Bleek, [25:12]
• Open discussion on hustle, friendly rivalry, and booking Fabolous at incline “12” while Bleek jokes about being “on incline 4.”
  • “He definitely was bringing more bitches than me. I was on a little decline. He was on incline.” —Memphis Bleek, [27:08]

7. Connections: Kevin Hart, Tour Management, and Grand Carmino

• E recalls how Philly ties led him to throw early parties for Kevin Hart, develop deep industry relationships, and eventually run tequila brand activations with Hart’s camp:
  • “Kel looked at me like, yo, I'm gonna give you this. Don't it up. ...I took it and ran with it. Ain’t no turning back.” —Cousin E, [33:29]
• Bleek reflects on supporting and pushing each other to new lanes:
  • “Now you got me some tickets, ...E take care of you. He show love.” —Memphis Bleek, [34:32]

8. Party Life: The Wildest Cities & Most Dangerous Events

• Detroit and Myrtle Beach top the list for “scariest party environments.”
  • “Detroit…that’s one of mine too...Then I got another city: Myrtle Beach.” —Cousin E, [37:03]
• Bleek shares tales of wild nights in Cleveland and Detroit, weighing safety vs. money:
  • “It’s only two cities I ever been booked in... made me feel like, ‘let’s give these n**s their money back!’” —Memphis Bleek, [38:16]

9. State Property & Movie Memories

• Iconic moments from filming State Property, including the legendary “What hand you roll up with?”
  • “That script was never in the movie...We freestyled the whole thing.” —Cousin E, [47:53]
• Hilarious stories of on-set improvisation and how Bleek didn’t know his character was being killed off:
  • “I walk in the office, I’m the killer…so today we kill you. Today you die, Blizz. So I’m like, ‘whoa, whoa, whoa!’” —Memphis Bleek, [52:04]

10. Hip-Hop Beef: Roc-A-Fella vs. The LOX

• E provides a blow-by-blow on the origins and escalation of the Beanie Sigel-Jadakiss beef, including “Powerhouse” disses, DMX’s neutral stance, Busta Rhymes’ encouragement, and Puff Daddy’s offer of shelter:
  • “Soon as we walk in, DMX is like, I ain’t got nothing to do with it. My pups and pups. I feel though, y’all gotta get it off yourself.” —Cousin E, [62:35]
  • “Buster make you feel like you a king... He make you feel like you royalty, God to the utmost.” —Memphis Bleek, [63:19]
• Behind-the-scenes of squashing beef at Russell Simmons’ suggestion—and how battles reignited just as quickly:
  • “So they talk, hug, shake...then next thing I hear freestyle...I don’t want to talk to Russell. I’m like, ‘What the fuck!?’...that beef was wicked.” —Memphis Bleek, [68:13]

11. Life Lessons: Living, Learning, and Evolving

• Much laughter over past errors—like accidentally flying with a duffel bag of weed—and what old school OGs like Russell Simmons and Jay-Z later taught about moving wisely:
  • “Russ like, young man, let me tell you...you just in the wrong places. That’s why you feel you need that gun.” —Memphis Bleek, [71:31]
  • “If y’all feel y’all gotta take a gun out, y’all need to bring the party to y’all.” —Cousin E, echoing Jay-Z, [72:45]
• Reflections on family, raising daughters and sons, and changing perspectives with age.

12. Reflections on Roc-A-Fella After the Breakup

• Bleek and E express the emotional hit of the Roc split but underscore ongoing respect and loyalty across divisions.
  • “I was campaign... always been good from both sides of the camp.” —Cousin E, [75:27]
  • “Yo, I guess it was just like how I was with the parties. You wasn’t checking for me with the parties. You was like, fab, get Paul Kane on the phone.” —Memphis Bleek, [75:53]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• "His name don't even start with an E."
  Memphis Bleek, questioning the origins of 'Cousin E' [02:06]

• "You joined the mile high club... that's legendary, cuz."
  Memphis Bleek, sharing infamy [05:53]

• "I had all that [studio] footage... I never got the tape back."
  Cousin E, on lost Roc-A-Fella history [09:14]

• "Girls just give me underwear bras... Nobody, never, not nobody bought me a gun. Beans was definitely certified for that."
  Memphis Bleek, [12:16]

• "One day you call...I throw parties now. I'm a party promoter...N went from on the stage and now it's my party."
  Memphis Bleek, on E’s transition from hype man to promoter [25:12]

• "Detroit…that’s one...that’s one of mine too...And Myrtle Beach."
  Cousin E, on the roughest party cities [37:03]

• "Now you got me some tickets...He take care of you. He show love."
  Memphis Bleek, about E's loyalty and support [34:32]

• "That script was never in the movie... We freestyled the whole thing."
  Cousin E, on State Property's iconic “what hand you roll up with” scene [47:53]

• "DMX came with the pits, had the lobby wildin"
  Memphis Bleek, on classic tour shenanigans [45:13]

• "Russ, it's active out here...that's why you feel you need that gun."
  Russell Simmons’ advice to Bleek on moving wisely [71:31]

• "You just in the wrong places."
  Russell Simmons, life gem repeated by Bleek [71:31]

• “Roc-A-Fella broke up...man, what we gonna do now?”
  Memphis Bleek, [74:47]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:10 – The origin of "Cousin E"
• 05:53 – Wild tour stories, “mile high club”
• 07:00 – Roc-A-Fella & Philly slang crossover
• 09:13 – Studio session memories, lost tape
• 12:16 – Gifts from fans and the wildest birthday present
• 25:12 – Transition from hype-man to promoter
• 34:32 – How E looks out for people on his way up
• 37:03 – Most dangerous cities to throw parties in
• 47:53 – Iconic “what hand you roll up with?” State Property scene
• 62:35 – The night of the Powerhouse beef with Jadakiss & DMX
• 71:31 – Lessons from Russell Simmons on why security isn’t always the answer
• 74:47 – Reactions to the Roc-A-Fella breakup

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Tone & Style

The conversation is funny, candid, loyal, and unfiltered—filled with brotherly jabs, inside jokes, and nostalgic energy. Bleek and E keep it real, balancing laughter about wild antics with wisdom from OGs and the value of true friendship and hustle in hip-hop and life.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you want to understand what it meant to run with Roc-A-Fella in the golden era—and how that brotherhood, hustle, and history still echo today—this episode is a must. From street-to-stage, wild cross-country adventures, and iconic beefs, Memphis Bleek and Cousin E pull back the curtain on two decades of hip-hop history, keeping it 100% ROC solid.

Transcript

[Memphis Bleak]

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[Cousin E]

My G. All right, this is.

[Commercial Announcer]

So.

[Cousin E]

My name, Irving start with I.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Cousin E]

So Dean's was like, nah, that name ain't right.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, we couldn't call you Cousin I. Yeah, nah, we couldn't call you Cousin I.

[Cousin E]

So he just started calling me E. Like, let's see if it stick with you. And it stuck.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, Cousin fucking E. I remember when I first found out. Cause for me to find out. Remember I met Beans in the student Beans like, yo, he brought his team around State Pride. First it started with E is cuz. Now you're my cousin. Cousin E. We on the Hard Knock life running around doing mad crazy shit. It wasn't until I got my first show because my first booking happened on the Hard Knock. I don't know if you noticed that. Like, my first time ever having a show without Jay, without anybody, was on the Hard Knock. That's how you got hired, you and demarco. I remember they like, yo, you got a dj? And I'm like, nah, let me check. And I remember DeMarco like, Yo, I DJ. And then you was like, yo, I know the words. I got hype, man. And I'm like, word N like, let's roll. And then when we started booking the flights, you know, you gotta get in. They like, irving. I'm like, but we call him Cousin E. How the fuck we call this Cousin E? And his name start with an I? Yo, that shit had me bugging my nigga. Like, yo, we done been all around the world touring, did mad shit. I gotta say one thing. Out of everybody we tour with, it's been a lot of on the road. You remember the security guard, Sean?

[Cousin E]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Remember he went over to 106 and park? You remember why he got fired?

[Cousin E]

Nah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You remember that was doing work at the airport. It was doing leg put, leg stretches and everything in the airport. I'm like, yo, we can't have that. We're too cool out here. Security guard working out on the set. We had to let that one go. But talking about crew on the road, security, all that, E, you, you like a legend on the road with us. My, you the only that joined the Mauha. Everybody talk about the Mauha, yo. And it don't count if you bring the kill. You gotta meet the kill. My man. Met the kill at the gate. Yeah, that and proceeded. That's legendary, cuz. I gotta give you your props, man. I might have been hating a little bit. Like, tell her, come give all of us solo.

[Cousin E]

No, I went back of that plane for that work.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that was. That was legendary, E. Man, I ain't going front.

[Cousin E]

Jay and Dane, they wanted to raise. We was going to San Francisco. And they remember. They put it on the radio. They gave me a shout out celebration.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, they was on the radio, shot at you out and all that. That's what I'm saying is crazy. Yo, but how did it feel coming from Philly, right? Because, you know, we already. Rockefeller was on to see your cousin Beans get the deal. Then all of y' all just move out. And being on the road with us from. From one day, I was just regular in Philly. Then the next day, I was the face of Philly, right?

[Cousin E]

It was like. It was crazy. Because I remember the first time I met you, right? We was in the studio, right? It was. What's the studio that Pac got hit up in?

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, Hit Factory.

[Cousin E]

Hit Factory, right? So I'm outside Quad Quad.

[Memphis Bleak]

My mistake, Quad.

[Cousin E]

So I'm outside the window right there like a ledge. And I think fiends had to come up there and do his verse. Y' all did crew love.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Cousin E]

Do a crew love.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Cousin E]

Do a crew love. So we came up there. So I seen you pulled up. You was on the dirt bikes.

[Memphis Bleak]

Me and Bi. I remember Beans was like, yo, you on the motorcycle up here. And I'm like, yeah, you take the sock over the shoe.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, I'm out the window being Joe as shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, bleak. We up here. You like, all right, yo, shit, yo, like Joey, shit. Yo, chill. Yo, y' all bought mad slang, too, when y' all came see all that? Joe, I remember first. First like, yo, bleak Draw. It's like, I ain't draw nothing. What the fuck you niggas talking about? He draw like, what? What? Like everything is the jaw. Everything. I don't care if you got the girl, the gun, the room, the car, the room. Key, food, a blunt, anything. The sneaker is the jaw. And you gotta know, you gotta listen to the sins. Cause they like, yo, yo, you got the joint. Like, what's the joint? The joint got them joints on you, Young boy.

[Cousin E]

Young boy got them joints, right?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Yo, y' all bought a lot of slang up there, man. Beans and all them. But I ain't let you finish. How you. You know the transition Everybody moving. We did crew love. Beans killed me, by the way. But go ahead.

[Cousin E]

So we came. So, like, you fresh off with hey, Poppy video.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, no, this was crew love. Was before. Hey, Pop.

[Cousin E]

It was.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. It's all right.

[Cousin E]

So. Oh, it's all right.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's all right.

[Cousin E]

All right. So I'm like, damn. Like, last month, two months ago, I'm just watching them on tv. Now I'm actually in the studio.

[Memphis Bleak]

I kind of think, like. I know it. Like, please. Thinking like, yo, yeah, we be out.

[Cousin E]

There like, jealous shit right now, right?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you savage.

[Cousin E]

Y' all came up there and did that joint. So at the end, I don't know if you remember, like, everybody left out the studio. So it was like, you and Jay still the only ones in the studio. So I had my man with me, Kareem. I. Like, he had the camera. He had a VHS camera.

[Memphis Bleak]

I don't know.

[Cousin E]

They stole my video. So I got all that recorded. All that.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way.

[Cousin E]

I had all that recorded and being like, yo, we need this. I think Lenny Emmanuel, like, yo, we need this for, like, the documentary, Manuel, man, I never got it back.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way.

[Cousin E]

I never got the. I got all that footage of that day.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn, man, that studio session was crazy, cuz. I remember that, man. That was the first day, remember? God bless. Real Roller. That's when I first met Sadiq. Real Roller Beans. You all of us. That's why I'm confused. When Beans did the interview talking about, yo, Jay help bleep. If Jay helped me, why he let me get Smokey Crew love like that, yo. Like, think about it. I would have needed the verse right then, yo. Oh, spice it up, baby. Throw that sauce on there. You heard Little sprinkle on there. Killing me. I'd have never let that happen.

[Cousin E]

Hey, you really came there. Dropped your drink and chill. In and out.

[Memphis Bleak]

Dr. Blizzle, right before was going to doctor. I was on the doctor through the City, man. Wild, yo. Then we went on tour, man. I remember bringing you and DeMarco. Yo, listen, I can honestly say the best times of my life is being on the road with these two guys, man. Cousin e and Dawn DeMarco are the wildest you could ever tour with. Because these back then, this is when roadkill groupies, the liv. It was. It was cool. Remember these niggas walk in the room, yo, you can just. I can just be taking a picture with a girl. It ain't even gotta be about nothing. Just a picture. These niggas. Yo, what's up? She ready to Jump off. Yo, what's up? Yo, that's the Liz. That's the lift. Yo, one shot. We got one shot. Nah, that ain't it. That's hot Doo. Yo. Hot Doo used to kill her as Skio. Yo, Skio Tote used to kill him with the Skios. My nigga. Like, y' all niggas was the illest. And be like, then you'll fill the van up. And these niggas trying to kill before we even get back to the hotel. To where we get to the hotel, Niggas like, yo, Bleak, we gotta get rid of these joints. Like, yo, we just got them. What you mean we gotta get rid of them?

[Cousin E]

They ready to live.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. Yo, y' all niggas was savages, man. I ain't gonna lie. Eek.

[Cousin E]

The best times ever, yo. The best times. It was to a point where, though I used to be the hype man for Bleak, and I was the hype man and DJ Slash for my cousin Beans.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, Beans used to be sick.

[Cousin E]

They used to be back. They like, yo, I got a show. I'm like, nah, I'm going with Bleak.

[Memphis Bleak]

I had the girls at my shows.

[Cousin E]

Bleak had it. I used to get flowers, underwear I had tossed on the stage.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. He bought Beans. Remember Beans got a gun bought to him. Yes. I never forget. We had a show in Boston, man. Shout out, shorty. But we had a show in Boston.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And the girl, literally, it was Bean's birthday, and she bought the. A brand new.380 in the box.

[Cousin E]

Yes.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like this, huh? Happy birthday. And I'm like, damn, girls just give me underwear bras, little birthday card, you know what I'm saying? Nobody, never, not nobody bought me a gun. Beans was definitely certified for that. I gotta give him that respect. We was on that road, baby, tearing it up, going crazy. Niggas took the jets, man, the plane. Life was ill. Like I said, you joined a mile high club. We rode private jets together. We took the shortest private jet ride in history. Yeah, I'll let you tell them about it.

[Cousin E]

It was All Star Weekend. It was All Star Weekend. We thought we was lit in Philly. Jay had to do a show. So Jay did a walkthrough, was at temple All Star Weekend in Philly. Till Jay, like, after this, he's like, yo, we going to A.C. he like, bet we got turtle tops out there and everything. We like, all right. We about to.

[Memphis Bleak]

We leaving.

[Cousin E]

We about to drive with A.C. we going to. At the airport. I'm like, what we doing? He like, we flying over there. You talking about a 8 minute, 5 flight from Philly.

[Memphis Bleak]

You see, on the jet, on the private jet. And we thought we was lit. Like, yo, we getting on the jet with Ho. Yo, we gotta go do this show. Crazy.

[Cousin E]

What about Spring Bling?

[Memphis Bleak]

Spring Bling?

[Cousin E]

Oh, my.

[Memphis Bleak]

Jesus Christ.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, them days right there, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Miami, my Memorial Day weekend.

[Cousin E]

Jason.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, God bless Jason. Talking about Jason. My G, Jason.

[Cousin E]

So we met Jason out here. Jason happened to be walking. He like, yo, y' all Rockefeller, right? You're like, yeah, Jason got all his money.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, when I tell you I thought.

[Cousin E]

He was a cop, he's like, yo, I want to do a party with y'.

[Memphis Bleak]

All.

[Cousin E]

I'll pay for it. Yeah, War Day weekend.

[Memphis Bleak]

He booked. Booked us pool party, flew us down here. Had the Ferraris in front of the airport. Remember the Lambo? He had the Lambo and the Ferrari in front of the airport. We take us to the crib. Star Island.

[Cousin E]

Star Island.

[Memphis Bleak]

Two cribs on Star Island. Facts insane. My, like. Then we get to the crib, remember? Jason was like, yo, bleak. You ain't checked the glove box? Box? And I'm like, nah, it's like, open the glove box. It was 10 beds in the glove. And he like, yo, that's just for going out. That ain't even what I'm paying you for the show, right? So from there, I thought he was a cop. Ain't no way. Just giving me extra 10 on top of the 10 foot of show. Talking about, that's just party money. Play with it. But then I remember, I told him, bring me some weed. I done been all over this world. Africa, New Zealand, all over. I done had the illest. Bring me some weed. God bless the dead. Jason was the man. He bought a barrel like a laundry basket, yo. Full to the top with the smoke. Like, I'm like, he gotta be a cop. There's no way. Then he had cars for all of y'.

[Cousin E]

All.

[Memphis Bleak]

He used to give all of them a car.

[Cousin E]

All of us.

[Memphis Bleak]

Everybody. Demarco, bi, Murder, et Skis, Jet skis, everything. Anything they wanted. He had a crib. No hotel. A crib for us on Star Alley. Y' all live there for the week. Y' all do y' all thing. I'm telling you. I used to be like, nope. Put me at the Lowe's. Nope. These used to be at the crib. Like, nope. Put me at the lows. I don't trust this. Something ain't right. No, if something ain't right, then remember we used to go to the club with his wife. What? What his wife used to say. What his wife used to tell him we go to the club. She'd be like, he. She be like, how much we bring into the club? Yeah, she'll go like this. And he'll be like, no, like this. He'll bring out the bread, cuz, you know, after the first show, we got cool. So let's fast forward. Like, they got cool. We booked us a lot, so we was around a lot. And he'll give my whole crew a. Everybody, two, three bands. Everybody. Yo, we going to the club. Everybody body own bottles. I don't want the bridges to be looking at like one nigga's the man. Everybody is the man. Like, Jason was on that vibe. Like that was. Yo, that was some of the illest times we had in Miami. Yeah, that's how I met Trick. Being in Rolex. Remember we be out here with all that. Yeah. Oh, crazy. Yeah, that's how. That's how round here came about, man. You know what I'm saying? Met Rick Ross, pit bull. All of them. We all these was around before.

[Cousin E]

Before they was who they was.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, Ross.

[Cousin E]

Ross used to be at the crib every day with us. Every day.

[Memphis Bleak]

Circle House.

[Cousin E]

Circle House.

[Memphis Bleak]

Wasting. We was wasting that budget like a over here blowing that breath.

[Cousin E]

They give us that money to go to the circle. Circle House with a pool, a chef, everything. I was no artist, so I'm just gonna live this experience.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that's what we was doing. Living the experience. Like rap. We rich. We made it. We was buying lock bins. Whatever. We rich. We was in there. Like we rich. This is the life. We don't gotta work no more. But it means rap. We did it.

[Cousin E]

It's a circus. We made it with everything in it. Like that was. Wow. Yo, exactly. Nothing get recorded.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nothing. But talk about Jason. You remember Jason? Yo, one year, right? I'm be. I'mma keep it all the way funky. This is how you know rap with rappers, man be having in their mind that other rappers don't even know you even thinking about. Because Nelly, right, He was out here Memorial Day weekend. Nelly rented a yellow Lamborghini. Remember? This is with down down, baby. 10 million bleak is. Wasn't even a million. Why I thought I was as hot as hell. So I'm like, he got the yellow Lambo. I want one too. Rennie, the Lambo. I. I even seen them out here in the Lambo. We went up, pieced it up, whatever. But what Nelly didn't know is the next day, we was push starting the Lambo because we thought we burnt down. Remember, I ain't know how to drive stick shift, so I, you know, riding motorcycles my whole life, I thought I burnt out the clutch in the Lambo. So we on south beach, trying to push start the Lambo. Dead ass. Serious. Trying push start a Lambo and the N. Yo, it took us, like, about a good hour. So we, like, fuck it. Leave the car there. It wasn't until this white man walked up on us and was like, yo, what are y' all young boys doing? And we like, yo, we think we burnt out the clutch, right? Like, we trying to start the car. The nigga looked. He was like. None of y' all thought about checking to see if the gas tank was empty. That's how you know when fronting goes wrong. Like, even with that Joe you wanna talk about. I fronted on Fat Joe. Let me tell you a time I thought I was fronting off Fat Joe, and it backfired on me. We here in Miami. We at AHA. This where AHA was booming on Collins. It was on, like, 67th at Collins. The littest shit. Cause everything out here was Dennis, right? So that AHA was the spot. Me and my man Murder. Tata, brother. We like this. We got the Drop Top bands. We eating. We just finished eating when they pulled up. So we like, yo, let's spin the block. Let these know we out here. Drop Top young. Think they. Oh, geez, let's flex on these. So I'm like, come on, Murder. Put the top down. We spin it. See them. I turned up some whole. I think I was playing you only a customer. Loud beats bumping my. The sky open up when I tell you. The sky opened up on us. It rained so hard, and we could not put the top up. Listen, listen to me. I'm in the rain trying to put the top up my. We pull off. Of course, we ain't stopping for the eye. I'm like, pull off, pull off, pull off. Like the 50 skit shoot. Pull off, pull off, son. So, yo, bro, it was so bad the way I got on the phone with the. And I'm like, yo, something broke in the car. The roof don't want to go up. He tried to tell me how to do his shit. Not working. I'm like, fuck this car. I'm leaving this shit. So we left the car. Me and Murder took a cab back to the hotel, left the car, and of course, we new to Florida. We ain't know 15 minutes it stopped raining. So you know we project niggas, yo let's go get the car, yo we go get the car, yo the cup hold this. Everything had puddles in this car, yo. Even the inside of the backwoods was wet. So we pull up to the hotel in the car, the nigga hov see us, he said yo, what y' all did? Drove the car at the beach, yo. I'm telling you boy, Miami was bad, man. We had some times down here, man. This mailchimp horrific jingle is brought to you by mailchimp mailchimp your marketing with AI and more advanced automations to connect to your store. Mailchimp your marketing and boost your clicks multi channel campaigns now with SMS light slit mailchimp your marketing today with the number one AI powered email marketing and automation platform Intuit. Mailchimp number number one based on publicly.

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Listen, let's get into this cause don't know eat my cousin from another cousin as my cousin, but he on me. I don't think he know he on me. I'm gonna tell you how you on me. You know you on me. No, no. See that Philly, you heard that? That's north Philly too. No, no, no. I' ma tell you how. Cause I put my dogs on you and DeMarco. That's why I can't wait till toe come up here too. We gonna keep it rock solid. I put these niggas on. He ain't know nothing about that party life, nightlife. Ah, ah. He on stage with me. Meth bleak is money. Meth bleak is money. What you think of that? What you think of that? All that my hood to your hood rocking. I got you, nigga. I got you. He held me down. I'm not gonna knock you. Then one one day, you know you call a yo, we got a show. Nigga like, yo, I can't make it. Why, what's up? Yeah, I throw parties now. I'm a party promoter. Like, oh shit. N went from on the stage and now it's my party. I'm gonna do what I want now. Then it just became every party Etho and Shad mysteriously performing no Memphis Bleak. Like I used to be like, yo, E, what's up? Like don't care. Throw me a little hosted, co hosted. Everything in Philly became fabo F A B O L O. It was like, yo, my just became street fitted in ammo nuts, yo, you know it. Cause you Used to see him and be like, e, what's up? Became street fitted in it, dude. Yo, but how you do that to me? What happened? He was giving you a better price. He was. He definitely was bringing more bitches than me. I was on a little decline. He was on incline. He had shit on incline 12. I was on incline 4. I was on incline 4. He has on incline 12. So if that's the reason I gotta give it to you. Hit you with the. He just drunk a soda. Nah, no, no, no, no. See, they could say no. That one was coming. Yeah, went all the way. Street fitted in the damn on me. No, never. No hard feelings. Cause even let Don DeMarco call him. Yo, my was shot. Got a show. Yo, I can't. Yo, what happened? I got a DJ for my cousin. Who, your cousin? Ja Rule. What? Since when Ja your cousin? We've been on the road 20 years. We see ja 4 million times now. That's your cousin? All right, cool. Y' all both my whole crew. I even got got no D.J. now I'm back to DAT tapes. Nobody hype, man, I got used to TV track bad. Y' all left me, man.

[Cousin E]

I come back, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you can't. You out here. Call me no Kevin Hart now.

[Cousin E]

Nah, man, what happened was. Nah.

[Memphis Bleak]

What happened was. Yo, but how to Promote a Life, man? Put me on. Let's talk about that. How to Promote a life.

[Cousin E]

It's good right now. It's good. It's real good.

[Memphis Bleak]

I mean, it's great. You shining like a. It's doing real good. Hey, Toast, do it real good. I mean, that do. Said Greg Camino do it real good out here right now.

[Cousin E]

Nice. It's cool, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

What I. I just did. We just did a party. That was when I fell off already. I wasn't. Yeah, I was done. I was cooked. You heard. Fried. Deep fried. Nah, I was deep fried. Like my man. The words of my man Debo would say if he was here right now. You was French.

[Cousin E]

We. We killed it that night.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, cuz I'm still going. I was on incline fold. The girl still going come out. But Fab been on incline 12 for like, 25 years. That's why I want to know, what was it? Was he bringing more girls out than me? Was he giving a better price?

[Cousin E]

Nah, I ain't gonna say the price.

[Memphis Bleak]

You got the two for one. Clue and Fab.

[Cousin E]

Nah, Clue.

[Memphis Bleak]

Clue ain't really come out yet.

[Cousin E]

I had clue recently, but before then.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, see, he on. He on incline 4 now. He not on 12. No more clue. Not. He down here with me. Nah, you don't go for that clue on incline, folk. He down here with me.

[Cousin E]

Nah, nah, I ain't like that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah.

[Cousin E]

Fab. He definitely looked out for the price. He always gave me a. A family price. He always took care of me, you.

[Memphis Bleak]

Know what I mean?

[Cousin E]

That's it. I mean, he looked out. Same thing you do. You always look out.

[Memphis Bleak]

I bet I do. You look out. I bet I do. I bet you. What's the fab family price? 30. 30? 30. And two months of my condos. He's like, yo, bleak. I got that 35 for you.

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[Memphis Bleak]

Pull up for me. I'm cousin. They can hit you with the. With the Five Heartbeats. We cousins, though. Used to on me bass. Nah, you bought Shabazz. The OG with you, you knew you needed some backup. I'm talking to Greek today. I gotta bring to bass the OG out here just so can keep it funky with us. Shout out to og man. Yo, you got some of the jury from the og because he helped me get some jury, bro, for back in the days. You know what I'm saying? Yo, he helped me with some jewels back in the day. We had to do a little, you know, little we had with the. Don't know. There a lot of feisty out here. And I'm down with all of them. Yo, Check. Yeah, Bass definitely caught me with the ah. Yeah, Bass definitely caught me with the ah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Ah.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's like word niggas did what tell them Brooklyn out here, we. This shit dank, huh? Taking it blood. Come see us. We never saw them again. Yo, chill. But, yo, how did you get the. Yo, listen. So listen, all right? We go from promoter never booking me E onstage, holding me down. E. This hitting mile high and flighted tendon E. Yo, you was roadkill, man. I gotta give you that. But how the hell did you end up with Kevin Hart? How'd that connection? Of course I know it's Philly. Everywhere we used to go. Philly. Oh, yo, Philly. Yo, this Philly, Philly, Philly that. Stick together. I ain't gonna front.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, definitely this.

[Memphis Bleak]

Mad Philly love. Brotherly love.

[Cousin E]

I was. I used to do Kev parties. Parties. We used to come through.

[Memphis Bleak]

See, you booked Kevin R, too.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, I booked Kev back in the day. I definitely booked Kev a couple times.

[Memphis Bleak]

Never booked me with Kev, though. Not even the plastic cupboys.

[Cousin E]

You forgot him. But they did paper soldiers together.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was in that, right? One little cameo. Yeah, one little Cameo. Yeah, but little in and out. They gave me that part, you know what I'm saying?

[Cousin E]

And so me and Wayne and Spank got cool. I was always cool with Spank, and then me and Wayne got cool, and then it just started trickling from there, from me rolling out with him, then going on tour with him. Then Kevin's like, yo, they got the. Like, they got the tequila coming out, and this is what you do. You the party man.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying?

[Cousin E]

It shouldn't be hard for you to do this. And then we actually out here, and Kel looked at me like, yo, I'm gonna give you this. Don't it up.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what they say. I heard the same thing with this. They gave me do say, don't it up. Don't go to the meetings high. It's like, all right, I'm just not gonna smack hell high, but I'm gonna be high, right?

[Cousin E]

I took it and ran with it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Ain't no.

[Cousin E]

Ain't no turning back, you know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, man. Now you got me some tickets, you know what I'm saying? Kev was just in Brooklyn. My man B. I thought you was going Lenny Yes. So.

[Cousin E]

Nah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause Lenny yes violated bi. Ah, yeah, man. He called Lenny for some meek tickets. He put him in the bleeds. Wow.

[Cousin E]

Lenny. That's crazy. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Lenny gave Lenny be out of bleed. He violated. So when I told him, yo hit E, he was like, man, nah, man. Playing that E. My man. I don't want to be mad at E. I don't want to get. I'm like, trust me, E going to look out E. Take care of you. You looked out for him. He was like, yo, he show love.

[Cousin E]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm talking about. You show love.

[Cousin E]

I don't forget. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Family, you do.

[Cousin E]

I don't forget. I don't know if we, our family.

[Memphis Bleak]

Do like, yo, how many poet parties you did as a promoter? Let's just get to that. What's a rough number? Just give me a rough number of what you think. How many parties? I think about 3,000, 5,000. Between 3,500 to 5,000 parties between 1999 to today. From Toronto, Philly, Texas, Miami. This had mad parties out here in Miami. None of my Miami ever been to one.

[Cousin E]

How many you think that sound about right?

[Memphis Bleak]

35. In between 35 and 5,000 parties. How many parties was Bleak booked at? You said you never forget. I don't I just wanna be real. How many? I think three, four.

[Cousin E]

Nah, I gotta be more than that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Three, four, five. Out of 3,500. Even if it was 20, it's not enough. I just wanna know out of 35. About five. I say five.

[Cousin E]

That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that shit is wicked. That's crazy up.

[Cousin E]

Damn, we had some good times, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, we fun. We've been everywhere. But ain't book bleak, like. Nah, bleak. What I brought. I. I ain't never was no violence at my parties. We never got no shootouts.

[Cousin E]

No, not at all.

[Memphis Bleak]

Where I. Since you the major party promoter, we know you don't book bleak. But, yeah, we're the wildest party. Cause I was just having this conversation with Bi the other day, so I want to know your opinion. Have you ever booked, like, rented a club, thrown a party and went to the party and was like, yo, we sure we want to do this shit? Like, this shit look a little too hood. This shit too gangster over here. You ever felt like that? That?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

What. What city? Keep it real, cuz. All these cities got murder rates. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You ain't on nobody.

[Cousin E]

It was Detroit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that's one. That's one. That's one of mine. That's one Detroit. Yo, that's one of mine, too. And then I got another city. You got. That's it. That's your top, cuz. I got two that ever.

[Cousin E]

And Myrtle Beach. Believe it or not, Myrtle beach.

[Memphis Bleak]

Shaking. The Carolina's definitely cracking. Definitely. I can tell you a story about both. But listen, I was just telling B, I'm like, yo, this rap is crazy. I'm like, we've been all over the world doing parties, but it's only two cities I ever been booked in. That made me feel like, yo, let's get these their money back. Like, this ain't this serious bugging. Like, we gotta go in there. No. How much they paid us? Send that deposit back. Two places, Ohio. We was in Cleveland. And my. No, we. I don't know what. What I was thinking. I'm like, yo, bring the tour bus. We went to the club on a tour bus? Bus. We get to the club is fighting the cops. So the promoter like, yo, you gotta wait a minute. Hold on. Stay on the bus. The police about the blitz. Yeah, you was there? Yeah. I'm like, I don't know if I want to go in there. Even B. I remember B. I went and got the money and came back. It was like, bleep. We done did some gangster, but we could get this back and keep it spinning. And Detroit, my that like I did a strip club in Detroit. First of all, Miami taught me after like 4 or 5 in the morning, if you see too many dunks, it's a problem. Too many cutlets with the 45 inch rims, it's a problem. Ray Ray in the middle, like, it's just a club full of Ray Rays. So yo, we pull up to Detroit. That's how it works. It was, yo, it was a strip club and they had strippers outside stripping and they was outside throwing money. And I'm like, yo, tweet, put one in the ad right now. We don't want no safety, nothing. Cock it, put in that right now, walk in with one in the chamber. Yeah, yo, I'm the only two cities that had me like get a money.

[Cousin E]

Back, say some in depth. Detroit, I don't even say cracking.

[Memphis Bleak]

A lot of places get it cracking. But Detroit, definitely, definitely, definitely. I wonder if other rappers feel like that they go to certain cities and be like, hell yeah, yo, what the hell? Yeah, like even the gun, like the gunners. My Free, all of us been on the road wild. And I told Free, I say, yo, Free, I got cousin coming up. He like, yo, cousin E, don't be trying to off me like you're free. Like Free. We ain't, we ain't on that. Free.

[Cousin E]

Nah, Free. Nah, you good Free.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you still a liar though, yo, chill. What Free lied about Free still a liar. What? Free lied about everything. Oh yeah, no, the kitchen. You did. I ain't go front. He did. I let him slide with him too on the pod because I wanna, I wanna pressure him. You know Free been through a lot, right? I don't want to pressure him. Then they might bleak on some bully. Free no was in that kitchen. And we just gonna let the Internet speculate. Who kitchen? What kitchen? They was in there spitting for that chicken in the kitchen.

[Cousin E]

In the kitchen.

[Memphis Bleak]

And told her don't do it. And they listen. All that round chicken spin, kitchen listen shit. Yeah, but Free Cab Chris, Gunnar kept it real. Gunnar was like, was in that kitchen. He was like, I wasn't there. That's why gunna Kevin real. Cause he wasn't there. Yo, I was just telling off camera, right? Cause Doug said, yo, out of the rock, who was getting the most joints on the road. So I'm like me. But then I had to put some respect on my man Gun.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, Gunna was running down.

[Memphis Bleak]

Gun was always first. I used to meet joints and be like, yo, who you just be in Chicago, just somewhere. Be like, who you met? They be like, I know young Chris up sitting over there. No, I'm cool. Get out of here. See, And I ain't going French fry my man. Cause I could french fry one of our cousins. Cause you introduced me to the joint. And they just went and wowed out with it. We can't do it. I never tried to do it, E. Don't worry. But you know niggas wow with it. Damn, yo, is been a lot of wilding on the road, man. I remember, yo. You know who was always. Who was the fun, as you would say, out of state property, on the road. Cause me, my take. I gotta say. Beans. Beans was wild on the road.

[Cousin E]

You.

[Memphis Bleak]

You been on the road with them a little more than me.

[Cousin E]

The funnest or the wildest?

[Memphis Bleak]

The funnest is the wild. Wildest.

[Cousin E]

I'mma go with Buck.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nef.

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Buck.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, Nef. Buck don't speak much. Buck was wild all along. He was a. He was a sniper.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, Buck was a. Hell yeah. The gunners. Both of them were snipers.

[Cousin E]

Me and Buck had Free N. But Free. Me and Free had. Ah, damn. Free single.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now, he had some times, right? Yo, but we talk about back then, if your girl get mad about back then. That's a little girl. You doing something wrong.

[Cousin E]

I'm gonna go with Free right there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Free. Yes. Yeah. Free was wild. Free was a snap.

[Cousin E]

Free was wild.

[Memphis Bleak]

Free lock in, though.

[Cousin E]

Boston crab freak.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, but Free tuck it roll. Free a grab, son. And you won't see him till the morning. What? He'll tuck and roll like a motherfucker. You be like, yo, we're free. Like, free guys. I just throw you that. Ooh, Free guy. I just gave you that. Tuck it, bro. Can I get a Batman? I got to say, you know, yo, you know. You know who else is like that on that squad? Wise from the Rangers. You remember that? Remember? Had something. And Wise locked in, was at his door like, I can't believe you act like Arrow. All right, y', all, I'm out. I let it be known, though.

[Cousin E]

All right, y', all mouth.

[Memphis Bleak]

But I. I never. I never handcuffed. I tell you, if. Yo, this my 88. We. We didn't used to say that. This my 88. Anything else? If you said, you know, Marcy, we was on our shit. If you said this was my 88, that meant I liked her a little bit. Kind of a lot, too. But if you didn't claim 88. That meant it was up for anything.

[Cousin E]

Do you remember that?

[Memphis Bleak]

Back in the days was. It was, yo.

[Cousin E]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

It was almost too real. Because as a kid, I'm from the era where my. You kissed in the hallway for two hours, so you needed some gum. That's how long you kiss. To get some was like, what? You gotta wait, right? So when I first started going on the road, and girls like, where you stand tonight? We on the mic now. We stand at the highest on. On such and such Avenue. Everybody beat us over there. You heard, like, we was giving it up. Like, talking about, don't tell her where you staying now we at the Double Tree on Peach Tree right there. Pull up, pull up. Hey, right. Be in the lobby like this. Yo, yo, remember, DMX came with the dogs, chasing all the girls out the lobby.

[Cousin E]

Yes.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. DMX came with the pits. Had the lobby. Because we on tour. We shouted out the. The hotel. X wasn't feeling it. Lobby was going crazy. That said, all right, y' all want to play? That came down with the Pit chasing everybody out the lobby like this. Get them up out of here.

[Cousin E]

X is crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, yo. Tour life.

[Cousin E]

Tour Life. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I never replace it, man. Tour life. Hard Knock, Liquid Sprite tour. Going to Canada. What's your best cities, man? What's your top five? My top top five? Top five.

[Cousin E]

Atlanta.

[Memphis Bleak]

Okay. Okay. 10 to 1 in the A. Detroit.

[Cousin E]

Even though they crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Detroit, you know, Detroit get.

[Cousin E]

Oh, I had a great time.

[Memphis Bleak]

Detroit, Detroit. I'll give you that.

[Cousin E]

I want to say Charlotte.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, sleeper.

[Cousin E]

Charlotte was a. That was a good one. New York, definitely. New York, New York.

[Memphis Bleak]

Of course you want to say that. I'm from New York. New York.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, you. I definitely would say me. I'm say Detroit, Chicago, Toronto.

[Cousin E]

I ain't really get to Toronto. Have no fun in Toronto like that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Chicago, Detroit, Toronto. I gotta say, I don't care where you at, taxes. And then I. I come on, man. My wife, she from Philly. So, you know, put Philly up there. Cause I used to be in Philly looking at y' all like, God damn, Aki, this. How y' all doing it? I'm about to get me. What? Get me some motherfucking dude. I got you.

[Cousin E]

Don't even worry about it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, yo held me down in Philly, man. Yeah, I mean, that's why, yo, you know, it's people on the road to this day, that's like, yo, you from Philly. Yo, y' all never listen to the music. I scream, Marcy on every record. How am I from Philly now But that's how much I roll with y' all and used to be in Philly with y' all but we never talk. We ain't get into this. This is what you most know yo what hand you roll up with, what hand you roll up with? That's what these know you yo yo State Property my G high felt doing State Property my It was cool.

[Cousin E]

Because the crazy part was that script was never in the movie.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, we freestyled that. That whole.

[Cousin E]

We freestyled the whole thing.

[Memphis Bleak]

The whole.

[Cousin E]

It was never there. It like being like, yo, I gotta get you in. We gonna make up something. And that's how I happened.

[Memphis Bleak]

Make it through your roll up said man I ain't rolling up. Yep, I gas you up Talk that talk that e that beans thought he was a bully man Talk that e.

[Cousin E]

Be shot.

[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Imma keep it all the way real. One thing that slept on in state property that no one never ever say. Beans ratted on me that called the cops to get me. Yeah, yeah, Blizz on some. He over there. Get that. Yo, no one ever said nothing like watching the movie master be like how he snitched on me.

[Cousin E]

Yeah. Yes, he did. Damn. Damn, cuz.

[Memphis Bleak]

He definitely saw me. But yo, you. You was there the day I had to die.

[Cousin E]

No, I wasn't there that day.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, E. Funniest day of ever. My life. My cause you know I never read state property script when they said they were shooting a movie, I walk in the office, I'm the killer. Whoever killing is shooting the most, that's me. So they like, all right, you this character. We changed the in the blizz. Let's go. So today we shooting months and months shooting, doing shit, chilling. Then they like, yeah, today we kill you. Today you die. Blizz. So I'm like, whoa, whoa. What part of the script is this? They like, yo, you ain't read the script. So I'm like, no, I ain't know I was supposed to die, nigga. Like yeah, we killing you today. So I'm like, nah, why we can't rewrite the script and write me in it? I gotta stay. I want to live. Especially this when they announced a year we doing part two, so I'm not even gonna make it to part two. Like, damn. So, yeah, they killed me.

[Cousin E]

Part two.

[Memphis Bleak]

Neo, Tata. Yo, listen, Tata was there. Hey, they did like, if you got the DVD of state property, they have the cut scenes, like behind the scenes. And Tata literally used to tease me every day. Yo, Bleak, you the worst dying on camera ever. My, like, that was the worst day ever. But definitely know you. Cause my man's over here. I say, yo, they like who you interviewing today? I like, I got my fam cousin E coming today. Hey, who that, like, what hair you roll up with? Like, oh, yo, you're a movie star.

[Cousin E]

Oh, I still hear that 20 years later to the day. I'll be out be like, yo, what hand you roll up with? I ain't gonna never get over it. I'm 50 and they still ask me what hands.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, you was older than me, cuz. Blood. Yeah, damn, you a og, cuz blood. You hit the fifth floor.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, I'm at the fifth floor.

[Memphis Bleak]

The fifth floor. I'm almost done with the.

[Cousin E]

I'm at the fifth floor.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I'm almost done with the fourth floor. Gets spooky. You gotta give me some tips on the fifth floor.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, man, I'm scared, but I'm.

[Memphis Bleak]

And congratulations, man, raising two beautiful daughters, man. You got one that's a grown ass lady now. Remember when she was a baby? I know you be looking at her. Cause I never really got to meet your. Your youngest daughter. But the oldest one, she was around all the time. That's just like, I know when you see, when I see her, just like when you see my son, I know.

[Cousin E]

You like, God damn right.

[Memphis Bleak]

What the hell? Where did time go?

[Cousin E]

Leaving us on the road, like, yo leak about to be born going, you going to the hospital? Hell yeah, you left us on the road.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell yeah. I remember I left on the road with the weed. You remember that day? I left with the weed. Yo, on some G, we had a whole duffel bag full of boof. This shit was boo doo bink. That's how bad it was. And I had my clothes in the bag. So I'm leaving my wife. Talking about, not my wife, my baby moms. Take that back. I'm so used to saying my wife, my baby moms. At the time she was having contractions, son, talking about the baby coming. So I'm like, oh, me get my. Get on the flight. I'm out. So beyond them called me. They like, yo, Bleak, we can't find the weed. So I'm like, yo, y' all is bugging, man. Why would I come through the airport with a half a pound of weed? I'm not stupid. My, but me, I never go in the bag. So they like Bleak. I'm telling you, you took the weed with you. So for like two days, I'm gone. I get back on the road like, yo, you never checked your bag? I'm like, nope. And my was a half a pound of weed in the bag. And I'm looking at myself like, I flew through the airport with this. Yeah, I was bugging. I gotta thank Rap man and Method Man. Any rappers ever like, I know, I. You better let know Bleak changed your life. Because Red man and Method man changed my life.

[Cousin E]

You definitely did. I appreciate you.

[Memphis Bleak]

You got on that stage. Yeah, and they got the soul glow from there. Like, I'm out. I was still looking back, yo.

[Cousin E]

Looking back.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, but looking back, talking about that booth, I remember when I got to la, Red and Meth is the first. Introduced me and Beans to some real raw like. Like, yo, y', all, what y' all smoking? All we show them like we met the plug. And from there now we on my right. Exotics, baby. Outside gas everywhere. But yeah, I only smoke gas because of Redman and Meth. I was smoking Voodoo Bing before then.

[Cousin E]

Ain't smoking that, Reggie.

[Memphis Bleak]

But yeah, Reggie, though, before, not Reporter Reggie. He was still in the game. Smoking Reporter Reggie. That is super garbage. What's next for you, man? You know you got the Grand Carmino moving. They got out there managing tours for Kevin Hart, throwing parties that I'm still not booked at. But I got new heat out here, so maybe I get booked this time.

[Cousin E]

You definitely got some new heat. Let's toss to the new heat.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying?

[Cousin E]

I heard it.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know What I mean? Apartment 3D. Killing, you know what I mean? Can't with me still. And I'm almost on the fifth floor. Wow.

[Cousin E]

Oh, so we. We back on the road again. We back on tour again. So we about to do. Go back overseas. We just left overseas. I took off because I just had a son.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, man, congrats. Words. They have a baby boy at 50. I had never too old.

[Cousin E]

Junior now.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, man.

[Cousin E]

Carry on my legacy.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, man. Boys is different, man. Yeah, boys is different. See you Got to do it the opposite way, where you had your daughters first and then your son. So what's the difference? You would say, and. And, like, what?

[Cousin E]

You see, he only been a month. It's only a month now, so I don't really still.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's still a difference. Nah, nah. That little. You still. You still.

[Cousin E]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

When they turn like, five is when I'm gonna see everything change.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, I'm gonna see. But right now, it's like, damn. I just keep looking at like, man, I finally got my boy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah, you might. You might. You might be a little different. Because me, you know, it was my first. My first as a boy. So it's like, all right, first thing is like, yeah, this is my little junior. But first thing as a man, you like, hang on. Gonna be no sucker.

[Cousin E]

Right, Exactly.

[Memphis Bleak]

And. And you know, you trained as a man. When a little boy cry. Man, shut up. Stop that whining before man get up. Wipe that off. Man, don't cry like that. And then it ain't till I had my daughter, till I realized, damn, that's a little bit of a. To myself. I was on some. Cause with her, I be like, oh, it's okay. Don't try mommy on some bullshit. We ain't messing with us Team Daddy right now. What she do to you? She said, no. I said, yes. Like, right? It's like. And then you think back like, damn, I ain't never give leak none of that. That's why. Leak me like that. Peace. You talking about hang out. I ain't hanging with you, nigga. I'm out with my friends. Fuck you, nigga. But that's the difference. I see with raising a girl and a boy, I'm way more aw, you know, I'm soft. Like, my daughter knows she's the boss. Yes, she knows. She says to me, daddy, you work for me. She knows, like, you. You my maid. You make my food. You do the things for me. You work for me. You my employee.

[Cousin E]

You must be cursing me out. I'm like, huh?

[Memphis Bleak]

See that shit different, my G. But Joe, so way no shout out, Wayne, another Wayne, another Rockefeller loyalist, you know, soldier that came from the camp. Gotta get Wayne O. Up here. He brought up something very interesting the other day. He brought up the Beanie Siegel verse going, that kiss, you know, all these years, I never asked Beanie Joe, what the fuck? Like, why niggas this kiss? But then, you know, over the years, like, even you said, yo, it was cause of the stuff. Styles, Versal, Reservoir Dogs. Then was taking Pop shots. And Beans was just like, hey, it's on.

[Cousin E]

So that beef was crazy. First of all, yo involved in that was just like, wow. Like. Cause like, when we first got there, like, you listen to the locks. Like, we really used to listen to the locks.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. But they was major in Philly. They was major.

[Cousin E]

Like, Philly was the locks. So doing the beef shit, like, it was funny. Cause they took their shots, we took our shots. So what happened was Kiss Teller in itself, like, with. He went to Philly. He performed at our powerhouse.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep. I remember.

[Cousin E]

So doing a powerhouse, he kicked his disperse towards Beans.

[Memphis Bleak]

I remember, hey, somebody had it on video, right?

[Cousin E]

So me and Beans, we sitting on a block. We have. We just happen. It's the first time we never really did power. We used to do powerhouse every year. So this the first year we really never did power. So we sitting on the block, we get a call from a radio personnel. I don't want to put him out there.

[Memphis Bleak]

All good. And we passed that. What Kiss going to do? Go choke him? Kiss him. He's getting money. He ain't worried about that kiss chewing out here. He definitely. He ain't worried about that kiss numbers when I took.

[Cousin E]

I don't know either.

[Memphis Bleak]

Patrick chewing right now.

[Cousin E]

He called us down. Like you kissing them on the stage. They just hit the diss song. They going crazy in here. How fast can y' all get down here? Ben said, yo, we out. We be right there. So the Raven is like, I'm gonna come to the back door. I'm gonna let y' all in. Y' all just come through the back. He came to the back door. He let us in. He disappeared.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way, Radio nigga. Like I'm not getting blamed for this. Fuck that. Yo. Yo, y' all ain't. Y' all good.

[Cousin E]

So God rest his soul, the first person we walked through the door see was dmx.

[Memphis Bleak]

You lying.

[Cousin E]

First person we see.

[Memphis Bleak]

God. So, yo, Zooby walking.

[Cousin E]

It's just me and B. As soon as we walk in, DMX is like, I ain't got nothing to do with it. My pups and pups. I feel though that's y' all gotta.

[Memphis Bleak]

Get it off yourself.

[Cousin E]

He from the rip.

[Memphis Bleak]

From the rip. From the rip.

[Cousin E]

I knew it. I like y' all pups. Y' all gotta handle it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Y' all family handle it.

[Cousin E]

I bet.

[Memphis Bleak]

So that's crazy. I never even heard that one.

[Cousin E]

Next person walk up, Buster. Oh, Buster come up. He give us.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I with Buster. Buster make you feel like you a King.

[Cousin E]

Yes.

[Memphis Bleak]

When he show you love, he make you feel like you royalty. God to the utmost, my brother. Solar system revolve around you, my brother. That definitely make you feel like I'm that nigga. Fuck this. Niggas talking about I'm fucking royalty, nigga. Like, so. Yeah, I fucked with bus.

[Cousin E]

Y' all shouldn't even be doing this. Like you say, y'.

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[Cousin E]

Y' all gods.

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[Memphis Bleak]

I'm telling you, they are gods.

[Cousin E]

It shouldn't be like this. But the other one person came up to us, like, what y' all gonna do? Cause y' all can go up there with me for.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, who Eve? Eve.

[Cousin E]

Who was Puff?

[Memphis Bleak]

Puff Diddy riding Diddy was like, that. Y' all with me. Them probably just told. This is probably when they told they gonna drop a refrigerator on his head.

[Cousin E]

Nah, this was right. This right where they said, let the locks go.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, he was pissed. They was Rough Riders, right?

[Cousin E]

So they. The campaign. But it's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, then he tried to use you. I think this right. He needed the muscle.

[Cousin E]

But it was funny because we were just at Summer Jam. Rock and let the locks go.

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[Memphis Bleak]

We rock. And then it's beef. Yo, chill. I'm like, oh, man. Yo, the game was crazy. Like, the game was crazy.

[Cousin E]

I'm like, I'm new to this stuff. Like.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, what the. Like, yeah, I'm just. Knock yourself.

[Cousin E]

Like, yo, come on.

[Memphis Bleak]

Don't go up.

[Cousin E]

So Beans got up there and did his diss, and did his diss and puff bring us out. By the time we got there, they was gone.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. So I remember they had the major powwow meeting in front of the spot, I think. What? Who tried to dead it? Russell Simmons.

[Cousin E]

Russell.

[Memphis Bleak]

Russell's trying to dead it. Shout out to OG Russ.

[Cousin E]

Shout out to OG Russell Simmons. Word up.

[Memphis Bleak]

I got a story about Russ. I'll let you get yours off.

[Cousin E]

So we flying there. Me, Sadiq, Beans. I want to say it was Paco. Remember Paco?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah, Paco. But listen, everybody in y' all crew name was Paco. Once Paco left, it was one Paco. He left, got locked up. It was like, four more Pacos. It's like, yo, everybody named Paco. All right, cool. I get it, Paco.

[Cousin E]

We. We just flew in. We had a show somewhere, so we had to fly to New York because things had to do. Some studios, some. Some meat. And so we get to New York. So Russell called like, yo, y' all need to chill. Y' all need to squash this.

[Memphis Bleak]

Everything.

[Cousin E]

I'm Gonna set it up. So Sadiq out there like, yo, we need to meet somewhere neutral.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Cousin E]

I don't know why they said they felt, though a park in Harlem was neutral.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

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[Memphis Bleak]

That's a lot stopping ground.

[Cousin E]

So we go, we fly in, rest in peace to gmx. Gordon picks us up.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, my gmx.

[Cousin E]

Gordon picks us up.

[Memphis Bleak]

Rest in peace.

[Cousin E]

He take us to Harlem to a park. I mean, park. So we sitting there kissing or pull up. There's four of us.

[Memphis Bleak]

They pulled up like, 12 deep. More than that. Yeah, I know.

[Cousin E]

So you had these coming from this side, kissing them coming from this side. I'm like, shit, it's about to go down. So Beans and Kiss went over there and talked. So, you know we sitting there. Well, I grizzly on, like, the whole time. My stomach like, shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was in New York, Philly, and y' all flew. So you ain't got no pistol.

[Cousin E]

Ain't nothing at all. So I'm sitting over there watching them the whole time.

[Memphis Bleak]

When I said, call me for this at this time in New York, that's crazy, because I ain't even know about this powwow.

[Cousin E]

Yeah. So when I see. Finally seen them talk and hug and shake, well, I think I let out some gas.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, oh, yo, chill. They get like, oh, they pieced it up. Everything good now. So that's crazy to them.

[Cousin E]

Everything straight down, right? I'm like, man, what's cool can listen to the locks again.

[Memphis Bleak]

He said, put that Clue tape on, cuz. No chip.

[Cousin E]

Next thing, though, I hear freestyle. It's back and forth. I don't know what the fuck just happened between them two times. But next you know, I got a freestyle. I don't want to have meeting.

[Memphis Bleak]

I don't want to talk to Russell. I'm like, what the fuck? It was just two weeks ago. Y' all was just hugging. Yo, chill. He come right back at each. How he throw Russell the drama, though. I don't want no men. I don't want to talk to Russell. Like, damn. Through Russ all the way in the drama. Yeah, that beef was wicked because it was like we were so close and nothing never happened, right? Was like, is it beef or is it just studio raps? Is it. I didn't know me. I never had no issue with the locks in them. I didn't know how. Which way we was going with this. It didn't feel like real beef. It wasn't like, yo, look out, the locks is coming. And I'm pretty sure they ain't feel that Way about y'. All. Yo, look out the Rock. Cause it wasn't no threat. The threat level was yellow.

[Cousin E]

Team Summit. We was in Florida.

[Memphis Bleak]

Team Summit was in va. Like, right outside. No, not Team Summit.

[Cousin E]

Spring blink.

[Memphis Bleak]

Spring blink.

[Cousin E]

Yeah, you're right. Spring blink. Yeah. Florida. Daytona Beach. I look outside, I'm like, yo, they had the locks. Bus this when you know everybody had their bus covered. Yeah, we flew in again. These on the tour. Busy. Sound check.

[Memphis Bleak]

They sit you by yourself. Oh, man. E do sound check by yourself. Oh, man.

[Cousin E]

For instance, say I'm on the 10th floor. We get to the 9th floor, the elevator open. The whole fucking lock's getting in the cellar.

[Memphis Bleak]

And you was by yourself?

[Cousin E]

By myself, Rock Tater. I was like, them niggas gritting on me. They looking at me walking. I'm like, shit, next floor. Open up here. Go Ashanti. Hey, y'.

[Memphis Bleak]

All.

[Cousin E]

I don't even know Ashanti. Mm.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hey, I walked in, act like, yeah, she talking to me. I'm here. That's my cue. I'm out.

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[Memphis Bleak]

Time to go, baby. Get off this elevator. I get shot the horse. Yo, you walking fast. You a asshole. Niggas like, yo, I don't even know Shoti, but that's my cue. How you doing, baby? I'm out of here right off. April back up to Chipotle.

[Cousin E]

I ain't going back down here the next time.

[Memphis Bleak]

They're deep as. Yo, I ain't never been to no shit like that with no rappers, man. Yo, that's crazy. But, yo, I got a story about Russell. I remember one day being in the office. This is when niggas was outside. We was outside anything in the city. We always was strapped, right? And this is when wearing shorts, holding the straps. Used to tie it around your leg with the shoestring or cut the belt. We had all type of shit we would do, right? So we in the office, and Jay, like, I don't know what happened, but Jay was like, yo, call me upstairs. Going out of that Russ. And I'm like, all right, come on, let's go. We go holla at Russ. I'm sitting there all day kicking. We sitting at Russ office for like an hour. They chopping it up, drinking, whatever, talking. We get up to leave. I go to give Russ five. The biscuit, fell on the floor in the middle of the office. Russ, ho. Everybody look like, oh, you got one gun on you. So I'm like, picking this up on Marshall. Like, put it in my pocket. Russ like, young man, you know he hit you with the major Major. You feel like God talking to you. Like, young man, why you carrying the pistol? I'm like, russ, it's active out here, man. Like, it ain't like how it was back in your day, but it's still shaking out here. I got to protect myself. Like, man, let me say something to you, young man. He's like, I'm Russell Simmons. I know you ain't as famous as me. Like, you famous, but you ain't Russell Simmons. He was like, I checked my bank account. I got triple of what you got. So I know know they ain't that. Like, the people that's looking for you will be looking for me, too, if they want to just rob you. So he was like, young man, let me tell you, you just in the wrong places. That's why you feel you need that gun. And I remember leaving that office, saying to myself, this old man bugging, is he talking about I need this gun everywhere? But then, you know, as an older, mature man, Russ was a hundred thousand percent R. I was in a rob the wrong place. What was I thinking?

[Cousin E]

That's crazy, because Jay gave us that same conversation. Jay gave us that same conversation. He's like, yo, y' all feel like y' all gotta take a gun out to wherever y' all at. Y' all need to be there, bring a party to y'.

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[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. See, that was new rich. And no, Jay always been rich. But that was Rockefeller successful, rocket rare booming. Oh, we in business now, Jay. Because before industry, J Strappolini, he was strappolini. You heard me? It was everywhere. I remember falling in love because watching Desperado, you know, busting the P80s, you like, oh, he got some nice guns going in J Grill. I seen that was like, let me get this. Took that like, yeah, strappolinis, all that. Every time Biggs come to the crib, we find another gun in our heads. See, this was before the Rockefeller rockerwear. Oh, we could make billions. Yeah. Put the gun away. Bleep. Stay away from us. Now it's bleep. Nope, nope. You can't. No, no. Y' all think it's too hood. Stay over there. But yeah, was Strappolini before. That's how I learned growing up with the. With the OG's wilding. But now you couldn't even man go around Tata or Emory J, any one of them, and even mention bun wrong. If they even think you said they kicking you out. Like, you said, what you like. Nah, I said, honey bun. Niggas like, you short Cause assistant. Get him out of here. You sure he go right back the tape. They gotta bring up the ESPN highlights on you run back the tape. Did he say honey bun or gun? Yeah, yeah. It's too much money, too much opportunity. Yo, so when Rockefeller broke up, how did you feel about. I know you felt like me, like, what the. What we gonna do now, cuz?

[Cousin E]

Blood, yo, I was hurt.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's all up now. What are we gonna do?

[Cousin E]

I got that call from Jay. Like, the audacity.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was like, damn, yo, but you. I know that, yo, listen. I always said too, E, you was on some bullshit. Because hov like, I don't get dropped, I drop the label.

[Cousin E]

I was campaign.

[Memphis Bleak]

But he was in. He still was around. Like the whole Philly crew. Clip. You don't pull up to the party, eat like this. Link, what up? I was campaigned. You like? I thought everybody was dead. Like, I guess, E. Everybody. Cousin, for real.

[Cousin E]

I was campaigned.

[Memphis Bleak]

Always. That's right, E. You always been good. Like, from both sides of the camp. That's what's crazy.

[Cousin E]

Cause niggas, I got them calls.

[Memphis Bleak]

Niggas got them scissors. And E was be there, like this wristband on and everything. Yo, where bi at? Yo, murder ain't with you. I'm telling you. Yo, I guess it was just like how I was with the parties. You wasn't checking for me with the parties. You was like, fap. Yo, get Paul Kane on the phone.

[Cousin E]

Yo, shout out to Rock Salad.

[Memphis Bleak]

Malik.

[Cousin E]

It's my brother for life. You know, they tuned in.

[Memphis Bleak]

They tuned. Tuned in. This. Yo, listen. Nah, man. Let's go. Listen, this is my real brother right here, man. I told Free I want to have a state property. Everybody. I want to have them all up here. But first I got to get on the phone with Beans. Me and Beans gotta talk before we talk. And he ain't called me yet. Yo. Why he called me yet? Thought he was my man. Thought he was. Yo, he say he's a Broad street man. Bully, right? Call me Cup. Yo, that's your cousin. That's my cousin. Make that. Get on the phone, cuz. We gotta talk. I definitely, right?

[Cousin E]

Yes. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I definitely need to talk 100% right. Do we gotta meet up in the park in New York? Nah, nah, right?

[Cousin E]

Conversation.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's it. He can meet me at Food Chases. Cause he's still a fat nigga. He won't eat. He can be here. Food Chases. We both can eat that. You already know what it is, man. You know what it is. It's been a dope episode of Rock Solid. This my brother, Cousin E. If you don't know what hair he roll up with, learn what hair he pour with. Cause it's grand. Comino and Doucet sponsorship we here?

[Cousin E]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Outside, yeah. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding, flag them. What kind of man would let this.

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