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Hunter
This is an I Heart podcast. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. Stories like Erica Hunt, a young mother vanished without a trace after a family gathering on 4th of July weekend 2016. No goodbyes, no clues, just gone. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Memphis Bleak
I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is eas.
Dave East
Ignoring is easier.
Memphis Bleak
Denial is easier. Complex problem solving takes effort. Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dave East
What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trapped nerds and all October long, we're bringing you the Horror.
Young Gunner
Boogity, boogity boogity.
Memphis Bleak
We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first. And it's the return of Tony's horror show side Quest, written and narrated by yours, Trul. We'll also be doing a full episode.
Dave East
Reading with commentary and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle Royale. Open your free AHA Radio app and search Trapped Nurse Podcast and listen now.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you.
Memphis Bleak
100% of women go through menopause. Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Memphis Bleak
What up, y'? All? This your main man, Memphis Bleak right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. Big weapon. Yeah, Memphis, I'm back at it. Notice the difference. Just more grown. Prezi. No stones. Yeah, y'.
Dave East
All.
Memphis Bleak
You already know what it is. Back with another exclusive of Rock Solid. Like I always tell you, when it's going down, it's only two type of people that represent the show. Either you from the rap or you solid. And these two brothers right here is both one from the rock, but they both solid. I got my guy Dave east and Young Chris in the motherfucking building. You know what it is. What's up, my guys?
Young Gunner
What up, Greasy, my brother?
Memphis Bleak
What's up, boy?
Young Gunner
Gun, my G. Yes, sir.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, Gun, had a mission getting here, man. I'm glad you made it safe. Crazy, you know what I mean? My G got pulled over. He like Bleak, yo. Yeah, he said, yo, Bleak, they don't be with you with the weed no more. I'm like, hell, you gun down, my man.
Dave East
Why?
Young Gunner
My man? He threw his butt away. He.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, you lying. I swear.
Young Gunner
Damn, dog is legal here.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
What you say?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, yeah, he w. Go ahead.
Young Gunner
You gotta go to the bodega next.
Memphis Bleak
Word up. Yo, East. What's up, my G? I see you got the album dropping. 10:15, you know what I mean? 10, 15, 25, man. Congrats, my brother. Yo, so what. What. What they could expect on this one, man?
Dave East
Me, man, like, without the. Without the influence of. Of the outside. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's my first indie project. Yeah. Me, I really. I feel like I was able to sit and take my time with this joint, you know what I mean? I ain't had to rush it, you know what I mean? I was able to put out other projects in the meantime of still cooking this one and everything.
Memphis Bleak
Anybody special you work with? Producer Wise on here?
Dave East
The home team, definitely home team. Buddha and Grants. Mike and Keys.
Memphis Bleak
Mike and Keys, the fam, Mike and Keys. Buddha.
Dave East
He got that smoke locked in with them. It's a lot of different. Some new producers I worked with. Nick Craven, though, he from Canada. He got that soul food.
Young Gunner
Yeah, I've been seeing me all over.
Memphis Bleak
The place, shout out the new producer.
Dave East
I got new producers and, like, day one, you know what I mean? All producers I've been locked in with, so.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, but y' all just dropped Fine dining, too, man. Going crazy. Get a plate going crazy on them, yo.
Young Gunner
Yeah, man.
Memphis Bleak
Like, y' all niggas both is individual assassins when it come down to spitting. How was it going in the booth together? Was what. Did y' all do a lot of songs together or was y' all sending the verses to each other?
Dave East
The majority was together together. You might have sent maybe one or two joints. Yeah, everything else. We was in the Booth together.
Young Gunner
Yes, we were.
Memphis Bleak
Keep it real. Who Y' all niggas was trying to murk each other.
Young Gunner
I ain't gonna lie.
Memphis Bleak
I was.
Dave East
But she get busy. So it was like, damn, I got the up it.
Young Gunner
That's the mindset every time. It's friendly competition. But one thing I say about bro, this had a good pace.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Young Gunner
His pace is different in that. So.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, y' all definitely, definitely gave him ball for ball for ball. Y ball niggas to death on that one.
Young Gunner
Pablo and Gunnis, the better the artist. I'm going with, the better the bars, you know? You know what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, man, raise the bar.
Dave East
And I not to cut you off big. I told C. I'm a. I was a fan. I am a fan of y' all early on. I grew up to that. You feel me?
Memphis Bleak
So.
Dave East
So to be able to spar with a. I was already. I was like, all right, let's get. Let's get it. You know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
Gun the only one from the Rock that's really a cheater, though. Nobody don't know that, cuz. He came in young, so he's still young. With the new generation, they be like, these old niggas get out of here. He the only one still.
Young Gunner
Yeah, that work all these years. All these years later, working my.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, he snuck in, he back in the club like, hey, baby, my boy don't age, man. Nah, that's facts, man. That's dope, man. I'm glad to see, you know, two artists working together. Cause you don't really get to see that no more, man. You know, a lot of these artists, they make albums, years, especially, without no ego type shit. And they make albums years later when it's. When it's over. Y' all still in the prime of y' all career, where y' all still putting it down, man. You know what I'm saying? So what's that even like, man? Like, do you feel like you accomplished what you needed to? Yes. See?
Young Gunner
Nah, I ain't done. I'm just getting started.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Young Gunner
You know what I'm saying? So, for me, it's a blessing in itself. We talking 23 years later.
Memphis Bleak
23 years later, and that nigga's still in his 30s, y'. All.
Dave East
He cheated.
Memphis Bleak
That nigga cheated.
Young Gunner
Y' all take the man upstairs every day. I don't take it for granted, you.
Memphis Bleak
Know what I'm saying?
Young Gunner
But one thing I do, I always work, man. I never got off my bike. Even when they haven't heard me mainstream. I was delivering.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Young Gunner
I got a network series from 1 through 5. I dropped politically Incorrect with Mick Boogie. Last man stand, revival, reintroduction.
Memphis Bleak
I can go on forever.
Young Gunner
You know what I'm saying? I got great bodies of work out there. Wasn't checking for it.
Dave East
They said no, it's always.
Young Gunner
And my boy was tapped.
Dave East
I was tapped. I'm calling.
Young Gunner
No expectations, no disappointment. Shit with man Rider just dropped. Case closed.
Memphis Bleak
You know what I say? See to that you can't say wasn't checking for it. The right people. Who with you checked for it.
Young Gunner
Right?
Memphis Bleak
You know what I mean?
Young Gunner
Right?
Memphis Bleak
Because I listened to it.
Young Gunner
He listened to it.
Memphis Bleak
I was on a few of the. Nah, you definitely.
Young Gunner
You're right.
Memphis Bleak
You're definitely a corner.
Young Gunner
Yeah, for sure.
Memphis Bleak
Like, you definitely put your work in. It was doing your thing. And the link up with east is crazy because I remember when I first met east was with Wayne though. That's what way big shout out to Wayne. You know what I mean? That's a rock affiliate. Rock nation. Rock fella. Original. Original.
Young Gunner
Yes, he is.
Memphis Bleak
And you know, that's who introduced me today when he first was coming out killing shit, doing this thing. So what was that like? Even, you know, coming in with the tutelage of a. Of a nigga who was. Who was down with the.
Dave East
I got mad stories early on and you know what was dope with it? Like, like I was saying earlier, I was a fan of the rock and which I. Which I put out so to. So to come in the game with somebody that came from that family from Harlem, like, you know what I mean? Like, that was. That was just like a. Almost had like a cheat code to knowing how was gonna kind of play out. How act all. Just all. All of the shit that come outside of the. The lights and all that. Wayner was putting me on to that early. He was having them combos on the train all like before the whips and all that. Like. You know what I mean? So Wayne O. Really, he walked me in this shit. You know what I'm saying? I always salute Wayno. He walked me in this shit. Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
Wayneo was a pup when he came through to the Rock at first and he left. Yeah, he was more. And when he came in, he took more to Gunner.
Young Gunner
He thought Wayne was from Philly. My brother was in the city.
Memphis Bleak
Everybody thought Wayne was from Philly. I used to think it's. I'm like, wait, nah, he's from Harlem.
Young Gunner
Boy was from the city that from.
Memphis Bleak
The east side all the fact, man. East. You went into the movies by G. The Wu Tang.
Dave East
That was fire. Bleak.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, man. And I ain't gonna front. You killed meth. I think you might have killed meth better than met. Shout out meth. That's my mother.
Dave East
Big shout out to meth. That's big bro. Man, that was. I feel like that was one of them once in a lifetime experiences, like, you know what I'm saying? I can't redo that. Like, that was one of the moments. Like, I'm always appreciative of that. Shouts to rza. You know what I'm saying? Big shouts to rza.
Memphis Bleak
The whole world, man. Ray. All of them, man. You know what I mean?
Dave East
But I was on set with RZA day in, day out, so you know what I mean? It's a big, big shout out to rza, you know what I mean? But meth, everybody. Like, I just feel like that was dope. Cause that was like really my first. I had acted before. I was in a movie called Beats with Anthony Anderson.
Memphis Bleak
Talk that shit before I did Big, big actors shouts to set free.
Dave East
Set free. Put me in that world. You heard. Big, big shout out to set free, my boy. But the Wu Tang, we did three seasons, so that was three years of me filming, you know what I'm saying? Driving to Staten Island 5 in the morning, doing makeup for two hours. Cause they gotta cover all my tats up and all that, you know what I mean? But I'm around actors Shanique Moore and Ashton and people that do movies. So I'm learning, you know what I mean? As I'm on the set, I'm picking up this from that one. Yeah, picking up that. So it just. It made it easier for me to just be more comfortable in that room.
Memphis Bleak
Normally.
Young Gunner
My mother used to play characters of people that's gone. How was it to have like meth coaching you through the.
Dave East
That was crazy. And the fact that he kept giving me the. Yeah, he like bodying that. You say anything. I'm seeing you. Yes.
Young Gunner
That's different right there.
Dave East
That's all I really needed was him seeing it. Because that's somebody that I'm reenacting, like you said.
Memphis Bleak
But he here.
Dave East
So a can easily be like, nah, I wasn't moving like that.
Young Gunner
Like.
Memphis Bleak
Like y all killed that. That movie. That. That show was fire. Then you went into the ads with the Puma. Like one thing led into another.
Young Gunner
My was just modeling what the he was just doing recently.
Dave East
Public service.
Young Gunner
That was cool.
Dave East
And Kiff shouts To Ronnie. Ronnie Fe. My brother Ronnie had me in the kif show.
Memphis Bleak
See, that's another thing. Y. Check my boy out. This do the wuang symbol. This. He only 16. Been the sex symbol since then. Then they link together. Fine dining.
Dave East
Yo.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, so out of, like, y' all both from competitive. You from Philly, bro. Top spitters in the world. Some of the, you know, some of the best boxers in the world. You out of Harlem. My. That legacy to follow from Harlem is insane. Do y' all feel like y' all made y' all mark amongst the legendary marks everybody else made? Where you from? Like, being from Harlem, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got mace.
Dave East
You got.
Memphis Bleak
You know, Puff ain't really from Harlem, but he claimed Harlem, right? You know what I'm saying? And you got what they did and what dipset did. You know what I'm saying, though? You feel like you made your mark.
Dave East
Hell, yeah. For this generation.
Memphis Bleak
For the.
Dave East
For the. For the youth. If you was born in 2000, you know what I mean? Or 2005, he's been carrying.
Memphis Bleak
I feel like.
Dave East
I feel like you tapped real. You 25 now.
Memphis Bleak
Word out.
Dave East
Word up. So I feel like that. That generation, like, everybody you just named, inspired me. Yeah. To do it.
Memphis Bleak
He definitely like, yeah. Dave and them niggas spitting. And my man BG out of motherfucking Miami. That nigga like. Nope. That's Nas guy. That's my guy off the rip, yo.
Young Gunner
We're talking generations, so I definitely feel that way. You my started back coming out of Philly. Still putting on today. I carried it the right way. Still carrying it.
Dave East
Yeah.
Young Gunner
It's always room for growth.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Young Gunner
You know what I'm saying? So always.
Memphis Bleak
What's next for you, Gun?
Young Gunner
You got any projects Made in Tokyo. Salute. Okay, we ready to bomb, Kenichi.
Dave East
Wow.
Memphis Bleak
What?
Young Gunner
Hey, that's about. I think that's done. 95 done.
Dave East
He did the whole joint.
Young Gunner
Yup. He did the whole team Made in Tokyo as the producer.
Memphis Bleak
Oh, no way.
Dave East
He did a journal. Me and Ransom. Yeah.
Young Gunner
The one producer joint with him. You know what I'm saying? So that 95 done. And I'm talking about the rapping and dump to my mixing and master that's in the bank. I see you had bank up here.
Memphis Bleak
Oh, yeah.
Young Gunner
Me and the homie cooking one.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, the monster that.
Dave East
Yo, I'm creeping on that, too. I ain't gonna front. We already spoke. Yeah, I'm pulling up.
Memphis Bleak
That's one thing I love about doing this show, cuz. Niggas like Bink, you know what I'm saying? He don't know how much. I don't think he understood how much of a legend, how much of an impact he was, until he seen the.
Young Gunner
Response from the pod.
Memphis Bleak
And then he hit me like, yo, good luck, bro. You know, sometimes I think guys gotta be reminded of who they are to remember what they got in this for.
Dave East
Absolutely.
Memphis Bleak
You know what I mean? So I heard you even say that, too. Where you was, like. When you was talking about your album, you was like, this is me. I'm doing this for me, not for the feds. Like, not the outside voices. And that's something I always say. Me, I can look back now and say on my career that that's where my train went off track. Because you know when you first start making music, you making music for yourself. Like, you ain't making music. You don't even know. No fans even fuck with you. So you do it for yourself. That's what I'm talking about.
Dave East
Building.
Memphis Bleak
And then when you get paid, that's it. You like, hold on these niggas like that. All right, Let me make this. Let me do this. Then you start making music for the niggas and you lose your way.
Young Gunner
So gotta stick to the script, baby.
Memphis Bleak
So for you to say that and to recognize that this early. Me, I recognized it too late. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a blessing, bro. Cause I know for a fact, just by you saying that there's some classic material on this shit, bro.
Dave East
You gotta think about it. When I came in this shit bleak. It was 2015. This is my 10th year.
Young Gunner
All that had ice in it.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, yeah.
Young Gunner
I'm put ice. I'm gonna pour some champagne.
Dave East
Ten blink. So I came in with Nas. Big shout out to Esco. Love you, bro. You know the vibe. That's how I got in. You feel me? Jungle, Nas, you know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
That's major.
Young Gunner
That's heavy.
Dave East
Then I got with Def Jam. I want to say 2018.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, yeah.
Dave East
About 18. I got with Def Jam. This my.
Memphis Bleak
So I always had.
Dave East
And not even Nas per se, but Mass Appeal. Yeah, I always had a bunch of different. Nah, do this type of song, do that type of song, do this type of record you need. The girls love you, you need this type of song. And not knocking. No advice coming in. But that started to throw me off a little bit. Cause the shit I was making is what attracted them. Attracted them to me.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Dave East
You get what I'm saying? So I thought about that. I was like, yo, this ain't. I ain't making this shit I made.
Young Gunner
Coming in, don't fix it type.
Dave East
You know what I mean? So I think this is the first time I really was able to get back to that. Like, you know?
Memphis Bleak
And that's why I told you. That's why I know took a decade.
Young Gunner
Like mixtapes. When you do mixtapes, you just be.
Dave East
That's when you get right. You're not thinking about nothing. That be the best music, bro. When you're not thinking about it, that's the best music.
Memphis Bleak
That's a fact. Y. Like, I feel like a lot of artists gave away their best work on mixtapes.
Young Gunner
Absolutely.
Dave East
Like, should be better than the album. You know why? Because the album is so strategic. You got, like. I'll never forget with Def Jam. I play my album, it'd be a table full of people.
Young Gunner
Yeah.
Dave East
All these pants, I'm sitting at a table full of. He might be people that don't know shit. He might be from Idaho. He might be from Texas. He might, like, not knock him. Where nobody from. But this you not dancing. My world.
Memphis Bleak
You don't know my world. Then when the project done, they say, I don't hear a single. All right, but which one is the single?
Young Gunner
Yeah, I ain't asked you to be a. No, the market, that should do your job.
Dave East
I'm giving y' all the package. Go get this shit off, man. That's it. I don't need your opinion on what. You know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
Too much, man. Definitely be too much pressure put on the artist. Like, yo, you need this kind of record. You need that kind of record. To me, it's only two types of record. Good and not good.
Dave East
That's it.
Memphis Bleak
Facts. Like, think about it, bro. We listen to records that we don't even know. I got a playlist on my phone called Spanish shit. I don't know nothing Spanish. I only know the curse words.
Dave East
Shit.
Memphis Bleak
Fire, though. Fire.
Dave East
There's flavors on it.
Memphis Bleak
You can't tell me these niggas ain't killing shit. I know vibes, and I know this vibe is lit.
Dave East
This shit sound good. That's a fact, bro.
Young Gunner
If niggas can pick a hit, they'll.
Memphis Bleak
Pick him every time.
Young Gunner
We all be wealthy.
Memphis Bleak
You gotta let the fans choose.
Young Gunner
You never know what it is.
Dave East
Cause it'll be the song that they ain't jacking. That the world love.
Memphis Bleak
Yup, yup, yup.
Dave East
And then it's like, you know what I mean? So that's for artists out there. Don't make your art, bro. You know what I'm saying? Don't really let nobody distract your.
Young Gunner
Never talking. There's like a lot of records that might have came out. We might not have liked it when the shit first hit, but constantly play, they gonna force the on you. After a while, you find yourself singing it, you know what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
That's 85% of the music that you hear today.
Young Gunner
Yeah, it start off like that was control of the masses when it was already, yo, but now we got this Internet, so. But it's kind of fair game one, especially for new artists.
Memphis Bleak
One thing I'm gonna bring up, and that leads me, congratulations to you, Dave, for getting a billion streams.
Dave East
That's heavy.
Young Gunner
I've seen that as amazing.
Dave East
Apple, yo. Yeah, that was heavy, man. But shout out to everybody that.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, cheers, bro.
Dave East
I super appreciate that, world.
Memphis Bleak
My only thing with that is to have a billion people play your music is amazing, right? But the money they give you for.
Dave East
Streaming, we should equate it to a.
Memphis Bleak
Billion dollars, you feel me? Like this. Even if it was 25 cent to spend, you feel me? But that's my point, right to where I feel like the way the game went for y', all, they tricked the new generation out of the methods that made our generation rich. Because how we got rich was radio. Radio produced the publishing checks, you know what I mean? Them spins on the radio matters. If you got a hundred thousand spins on a radio, you can literally go buy a house, you know what I mean? Think about it. A billion streams on the Internet, it's like, that's a major feat, but it don't. But what?
Dave East
What is it?
Memphis Bleak
That's what I'm saying.
Dave East
To me, when I seen it, I was like, oh, that sounds good. Yeah, I might get a plaque or something.
Young Gunner
So just let you know, you outside.
Memphis Bleak
What I want the new generation and people to realize, man, get back to radio, bro. Don't. Don't give up on radio. Don't give up on the dj. The DJ is very important, bro. It's like, yeah, NBA players know how to play the game, but you still need the coach. You still need the assistant coach, you still need the conditioning coaches, you know what I mean? Like, the DJs is that important, bro. And I feel like a lot of.
Young Gunner
People, all the DJs, yes.
Memphis Bleak
Just like, forget about them and feel like, yo, they chased the playlist, where the playlists bring you popularity, but they don't bring you that paper, right?
Young Gunner
Dj, enough. I say it all the time. Salute. Dj, enough.
Dave East
He heard us.
Memphis Bleak
That's the. That's the one thing I ain't gonna front. I hate all y' all new young. And he got. He crept back in. He ain't really a young. He's just a young by default.
Young Gunner
But y', all, I started earlier. Y'.
Memphis Bleak
All. Y' all get the modeling. Brody's, the companies. Mountain Dew, Sprites, Pepsi. All these companies just flooding. They was not with us back in the day. Like, you rap.
Dave East
Ew.
Memphis Bleak
Hide your purse. Girls now like that. Gotta feel amazing, man. Like y' all pushing it forward, man. And I. I commend y' all for that. You know what I mean?
Dave East
A lot of the brands that I grew up to, grew up on Sprite. All of them. I didn't got a bag. Actually got a bag. Doing something with them. McDonald's.
Memphis Bleak
See, look.
Dave East
So all that is. Yeah, that's crazy.
Memphis Bleak
You know what?
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Bag?
Memphis Bleak
I got out bags, too.
Young Gunner
What's up, Bag? What's up?
Memphis Bleak
He got a bag out of McDonald's. Only bag I got was the bag of Big Mac coming. But you got the big bag of fries. Take your bag and keep it spinning.
Dave East
Used to go to McDonald's this year. I said, oh, life came full circle.
Memphis Bleak
That's dope, man.
Young Gunner
That's heavy.
Memphis Bleak
Get the money back for what they did to Pusha and them, too. Man, fuck that. They raw. Pusher.
Dave East
All right. I'm loving it. Right?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. For the jingle.
Dave East
Damn. I know. That was. That's. That's a billion right there.
Memphis Bleak
We gotta pull the gun out on Pusha. I'm a ride for you, but I need PC you parts of that.
Dave East
Get Push's credit on that.
Memphis Bleak
They made the jingle, my G. And you got a bag for. That's what I'm saying. Back in the days, ain't no. Wasn't no brands thinking about what even.
Dave East
Collabing with a rapper, right?
Memphis Bleak
Like, think we had the Hard Knock Life tour. Rock the mic. Now you look at J and M festivals, all the festivals, everybody doing.
Young Gunner
Come on, we did the Sprite tour. Ain't no way in the world. Niggas didn't do no Sprite.
Memphis Bleak
We ain't even have no Sprite in the dressing room on that tour. Shit was cool. We had no Sprite that would have been hot.
Dave East
This a Sprite tour.
Young Gunner
We have a Sprite in the dressing room.
Memphis Bleak
I think that was the first time niggas got in. Was like, okay, we ain't here. New game. New game. We ain't here. Back to the but yeah, man, Gun, man. Let me ask you this, bro. On some Rockefeller the breakup, I don't think Rockefeller ever coming back together. Let's just keep it all the way above.
Dave East
Yeah, I don't think. Hold on. Run that back. I'm telling you, turn the AC down, AC up. The blizzard, I had to put the blood out.
Memphis Bleak
I said, yo, I don't think Rockefeller ever coming back together. Now.
Young Gunner
The nasty outside, man.
Memphis Bleak
Bad. You know what I look at it.
Dave East
Like, And I ain't got nothing to do with it. Nah, fuck that. This my young. This is my younger opinion, you heard? I feel like. And this just go with life. Some shit just gotta did what it did.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. It gotta go embrace what it did.
Young Gunner
On to the next.
Dave East
You know what I mean? That time, you gotta remember, like now when I see all of that coming out or whatever. Cause I ain't see none of that with none of y'.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
All.
Dave East
When we were sitting watching the state prop movie or hearing them albums, it was like, that's crew.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, we fucked with it.
Dave East
Real shit. So to grow up and be like, oh, them niggas really wasn't. They might have not really been like, you know what I mean? I don't wanna see that. I don't even want to click on this shit and see. I don't want to see that.
Young Gunner
You ain't saying get back together like over again. You telling like reunion type, like, you stand on that.
Dave East
It's money. It's money on the table.
Memphis Bleak
It's millions on the table.
Dave East
It's definitely a bag on the table.
Memphis Bleak
Absolutely.
Dave East
So if niggas can't put them differences to the side for that, you know, my lead to.
Memphis Bleak
That was leading to. Do you ever think it's a possibility? State property.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Property.
Memphis Bleak
We'll do a reunion with all that's going on with the prop. See, we all up, man. Yeah, I think that all up now. This. That Puff was saying on big albums, it's all up now.
Young Gunner
It's all up.
Memphis Bleak
I ain't even know what he was talking about then, but I get it. It's all up now.
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Memphis Bleak
Shit. Crazy gun.
Young Gunner
Yeah, it's bad.
Memphis Bleak
Get the young money. Fuck this old shit.
Young Gunner
You see I'm outside.
Memphis Bleak
That's right. You know what I'm saying, Dave? He modeling. Get your up. That still out here sniping?
Young Gunner
He's fine.
Memphis Bleak
Nah, nah, he say sniping no more. He said he tired sniper. He put his rifle away.
Dave East
Put that right. I put that up. This sniping is over, man.
Young Gunner
Yo, that was cool, but it's still.
Memphis Bleak
It'S still sniping, right? Let's, let's, let's get into this.
Dave East
This.
Memphis Bleak
I'm mad at Gunner cuz he cheating. He had old sniping and new sniping. I gotta get out the gang.
Dave East
Generational sniper.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, he's A he. The D.C. sniper. He was the D sniper. Yo, because back in the days east, you said that you was like, yo, it was crazy. Y' all had the era before the cameras, before the media. Yeah. Before they catch you in the bed sleep and they hit you with the picture like none of that. Like it was none of that. None of that.
Dave East
Anything was back then. Word of mouth. I got older cousins and from that.
Memphis Bleak
Era, all they got was a T shirt or something. You had to be there if you.
Dave East
If you too many miles away. That word of mouth ain't even making it, man.
Memphis Bleak
You know who I always said y'.
Dave East
All from a different.
Memphis Bleak
I'm not gonna say they single handedly did it, but they played the major part in the game up the unit, G unit. When they made the song Groupie Love.
Dave East
Give me, give me, give me, give.
Young Gunner
Me that grouping Love.
Memphis Bleak
That was a smash.
Young Gunner
They really didn't, if you think about.
Memphis Bleak
It, because the start said, I ain't no groupie. When that song dropped, that's when you. You didn't hear that before that record Gun, right, we used to call the Skios. They be like, what's that? They be like beautiful black woman. She'd be like, yeah, I was sk.
Young Gunner
When you think about the dog pound.
Memphis Bleak
Been on their west coast. That was west side. Yeah. But think about it. That's why. That's why. But think about it. You meet a West coast, girl. They automatically know you ain't. They automatically know, like, ah, let's just have some fun. These ain't. Anyway, they treating us like the niggas talking out there on the west side. East coast was different.
Dave East
They've been being called bitches.
Memphis Bleak
It's just East Coast. The east coast was different. The girls really thought you loved them. They was down with the it's my boo boo for sure. But then niggas fucked it up when start saying, I ain't no groupie now. And think, back then, wasn't no Uber. No Uber eats. So if you ain't stop and get nothing.
Dave East
No Uber. No Uber eats.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. Before you get to the hotel, bitches basically was eating. And y' all me muster packs.
Dave East
Yo, put it this way. Half of the joints today that are getting the Uber would have not gotten a yellow Cab.
Young Gunner
No, for sure.
Dave East
Yellow cat would have not a quarter cab.
Memphis Bleak
But now, back then, we used to have. It was more expensive. Cause we used to have to call car service for them. If you wanted to move a joint back in the day, you had to call car service, and that was that 200.
Dave East
We had car service in the projects. We used to call it. You know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, that black truck, they like, stay long.
Dave East
We had a big friend.
Young Gunner
We was.
Memphis Bleak
We was.
Dave East
Yeah, yeah, that $100. We had a call day today.
Memphis Bleak
Shit is bad, man. Like, the girls, yo, listen, this is why y' all young getting so much money, I guess. Why all the bottling deals and all this? Cause the girls want to eat. They won't go to Capitol Grill. Philippe.
Young Gunner
I was greedy, man.
Memphis Bleak
They won't go to steak 48. You know what I mean? Yeah, yo, sure, y' all young nigg is ballers.
Dave East
The most we y' all is ballers is getting it.
Memphis Bleak
Yo. The most we used to do was Cheesecake Factory, Justin's.
Dave East
That was like.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I'm saying. But that was like elite back then.
Young Gunner
In the basement at Philippe's, too, though.
Memphis Bleak
Fridays, the Jack Daniels thing, you got a joint, a Jack Daniel. Shrimp or steak?
Young Gunner
Pluck you, cheese your figures.
Memphis Bleak
So Boston Market, you was that guy. None of that should have worked today. That's why I got out the game.
Dave East
I got Boston Market, baby.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I'm saying.
Dave East
The is that young Drake might not know what the that is. And that used to be paying you.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, Boston was that. That's what I'm saying.
Dave East
Like the rotisserie.
Memphis Bleak
I couldn't even compete with a girl today. Like, if I Just met a girl and be like, yo, let's go on a date. And she like, yeah, I want to go to Ruth. Like, what? The roof of my projects. Do you not talk about Ruth, Chris?
Young Gunner
Yeah. Cause Chris right here.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, we gonna go to Chris crib. Go to Chris the first date. We gonna spend a marriage.
Dave East
Let's go to C. Ruth. Fuck are you talking about?
Memphis Bleak
We go to Chris roof. Yeah. Yo, that's why I'm like, damn, man, today is different, man. Like, am I bugging or what's up? That's wild.
Dave East
The scammers, man, I blame. They approach you like scammers. Oh man, I think the scammers did it.
Memphis Bleak
But think about that. If you take a joint out in the peace.
Dave East
Scammers and the grammars, I mean, I think they.
Memphis Bleak
But imagine being a scammer. You take a joint out and your piece don't hit.
Dave East
Gotta. Gotta run up out of there immediately. Yo, I'm going to the bathroom.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, that's one thing, you gotta leave.
Dave East
A joint right there.
Young Gunner
They get in the bottom of that.
Dave East
Joint going to the bathroom. I got a pee. Yo, this piece ain't hit. I'm going to the bathroom.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, scammers in the grammar. The gram is bad, man.
Young Gunner
Bad bro, bro.
Memphis Bleak
The gram is bad curse, baby.
Dave East
I think it's a give of the curse word. I agree with that.
Memphis Bleak
Why you say that?
Dave East
Cuz I feel like you could, you could literally, you could have your talent, you know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
And.
Dave East
And don't have no connections to nothing. But you could, you know, upload your on the Internet, put it on the gram, keep you. I mean, create a following from that. It's to the point where like, you don't even got to really be talented. You could just keep doing the same dumb shit over and over and you gonna get viewers, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I think in that space of getting whatever you think your talent is, getting it out to the world, I think it's a good look.
Memphis Bleak
Nah, nah, that's a fact.
Dave East
I think the curse of it is everybody is too familiar with everybody. So, like back in the day, you couldn't dm, Bro, I get mad DMS.
Memphis Bleak
From people this real.
Dave East
And I'm not knocking the people. I'm not gonna say nobody name, but I actually get DMS from people that's telling me, yo, I'm about to get evicted and these are people I don't know. It's not family. These are complete strangers. Yeah, so I had. I'm telling my girl I'm like, yo, what make a person? They like, yo, they shooting, they shot. You might be one of the people that say, all right, bet it.
Memphis Bleak
I got you.
Dave East
But I get DMs that say I'm being evicted. It's me and my eight month baby. The dad is in jail. I'm being put out of the.
Memphis Bleak
Could you send me?
Dave East
I'm like, y' all never got, like, back in the. Like, you could never just hit hov. You couldn't just hit nas. You couldn't hit these dmx. You couldn't hit these people up.
Memphis Bleak
Nah.
Dave East
Through a message.
Memphis Bleak
No, no, no.
Dave East
They probably had fan clubs.
Memphis Bleak
We used to get the letters.
Dave East
Yeah, but nigga letters. The message is like, you seriously hit me up.
Memphis Bleak
Just the Access.
Young Gunner
Like, the Access. Motherfuckers got that.
Dave East
You get what I'm saying?
Young Gunner
I feel like y' all can wear your outfits.
Dave East
Y' all can wear your outfits more back then, like, you know what I mean? Like, just not spend 3,000 on a coat, yo.
Memphis Bleak
That's a fact.
Dave East
You can wear that a few times, yo. You know what I mean? Now, don't post it, yo. Don't get caught in the picture on the gram with it.
Memphis Bleak
Can't wait to keep it funky between the gram and this part. Oh, I don't got a closet no more. My shit is crickets right now. It's like, oh, I wore this on the park. Damn. I post this on the grid.
Dave East
That shit in your conscience now. You think about it, it'd be be.
Memphis Bleak
Like, oh, I got these new feats. I'm we.
Dave East
I'll be like, ah, I had that on in the video.
Memphis Bleak
I can't wear that.
Dave East
Can't wear that again. You know what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
Get this off, pass it off. See, but I thought y' all would have changed that, cuz. That was some whack. I felt like from our era. We wore it once. The video. If the video ain't drop yet, I'm wearing it again.
Dave East
I put months between it, like back to back in the. In the same. I put some months between. If it's something that's like stand up out.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, yeah, certain.
Dave East
I, I, I double up like jeans and I do that back to back. I don't care about that. But certain pieces, you know, in your mind, like, yeah, I can't do this straight up for a minute. It's too, you know, I mean, they, Especially if talking about it, that sweater was crazy. Yeah, it's over for that sweater.
Young Gunner
Yeah, it's a sweater.
Dave East
It's over for that hoodie, that jacket, tech, all that you can.
Young Gunner
You could do that week with a bank roll on you. You know what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
That's a fact. They talking about fucking hustle weather. One thing I commend y' all on, like I said before, is, you know, the camaraderie. Do y' all think. What do you think? Being from New York, what do you think it'll take to get New York all on the same page? Like, you know what I mean? You think the city could come together, get money? Like, put it like this. I was at a show with Jeezy one time, right? Shout out Young Jeezy.
Dave East
Jeezy my dog.
Memphis Bleak
And he said the realest shit to me. That nigga was like, yo, Bleak. A lot of niggas don't fuck with each other, but you know the difference with us in the A, he was like, even if we don't like each other, we'll come together. Get that bag after the bag is made back to you. But we gonna get that money. We ain't gonna leave the money on the table, right? And I feel like we need to pick that up.
Dave East
And ny.
Memphis Bleak
Do you think that's ever possible?
Dave East
Yeah. And no. I think a New York attitude is just different than the average person.
Memphis Bleak
That's a fact.
Dave East
So a lot of times our ego go get in the way nine times out of ten, you know what I'm saying? I'm not speaking me personally. I don't have no problem working with anybody in New York City.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Dave East
That's me. But I'm talking about as far as a.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
A.
Dave East
A whole. Like, I think it take more of the. The. The top artists in the city to. With the artists that don't really got a name. I think it take more of that because you'll go, like you were saying, you'll go to Atlanta, and that's all you hear on the radio. And you might not know who that artist is. Never heard of them, never seen them. But they keep playing. It's hot in Atlanta.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Dave East
And everybody in Atlanta with it. You know what I'm saying? All the clubs with it, the DJs. But you come to New York and you don't hear New York on the radio. Like, I mean, no knock to the radios or the DJs, but you. Not really. It's like a certain hour, you get to hear the town, and there's certain DJs that play the town, you know what I mean? So I feel like that I think.
Memphis Bleak
Because you know what I mean, a lot of the young boys coming up, they don't fuck with the DJs. Like, they don't go to the parties, mingle with the DJs.
Dave East
Cause they got their own loop.
Young Gunner
They don't feel like they need them to do that.
Dave East
They created their own loop. They got their own parties where it's lit, it's sold out, it's packed. There's a line around the corner. So now the DJs gotta come to their party.
Memphis Bleak
They only like to make that connection. Because, like I said before, you need radio, man. And I feel like always need radio. It's so much money on the table. If niggas want to be rich like they say they are, like they dream they are. You only better. You only stronger together than solo. We can't win the war by ourselves. Same thing in Philly, my G. I got so much talent in Philly, and I always felt like. Like Philly shouldn't have been as difficult as New York because it's small, smaller.
Dave East
Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
You know what I'm saying? New York, we. Every borough is probably the size of Philly. You know what I'm saying? Real talk. But y' all segregated, like New York. You know what I mean?
Dave East
Everybody made it tougher, though.
Memphis Bleak
It was smaller between North Germantown, you.
Dave East
Know what I mean? It's only a select group to get.
Memphis Bleak
On out of that state. I feel like. I feel like y', all, though state property, y' all made the biggest impact pack coming out of Philly.
Dave East
And we.
Young Gunner
And we covered every part of the city. So that's what each.
Memphis Bleak
I was from y each part of the city. Yeah. Like, I feel like y', all the.
Dave East
Whole Philly, you feel me?
Memphis Bleak
That's why everybody that come through Philly, they got to grab one of y' all to come out on stage on this. You free be. You know what I mean?
Dave East
Absolutely.
Memphis Bleak
I just had Sparks up here, too, man. Shout out Zuzu too, man. Word, man. And that's what I'm saying. Like, even from you being from New York, man. So many spitters out of New York just to make your impact that you did, bro. You gotta feel like, damn.
Young Gunner
Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
Like, bro, it's.
Dave East
I still ask myself that sometimes. I still know what I did and the work I put in. But sometimes I be like, yo, it's wow, nicer than me. Me is that never got that light or never got that. And I can still pull up on them in the hood, and they still got a thousand balls for me on.
Memphis Bleak
The spot some new.
Young Gunner
But, you know, it's all pause the package. You gotta have everything. Today's world not just spit. You know what I'm saying?
Dave East
Can't just rap no more. I feel like no more. I came in just rapping, but I learned quick getting the gym. Them make it make your image a certain way. Where they seeing you that is just a rapper. You know what I mean? Like, stop drinking it. Get off the lane. Get off this. Get off. I stop. I got my together because I start peeping. I'm about to be in a light, bro. I'm about to be. Cameras is about to be on me. I don't want to look up on these cameras.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Dave East
You know what I'm saying?
Young Gunner
Because you see fall asleep on these interviews.
Dave East
I never wanted to. Because that'll make a judge you in the wrong way.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah.
Dave East
I mean, it'd be somebody that you might be intelligent as a somebody. See that one and be like, that nigga's a bozo. Yeah.
Young Gunner
I ain't had cussed down for that.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Yeah.
Dave East
I ain't gonna be that gunning.
Memphis Bleak
Them used to be tripping too. Coming up front with their league. Used to be looking at these like.
Young Gunner
And we come from city where drinking straight up. Like when I seen mixing it, that was new to us, like. You know what I'm saying?
Dave East
I know. I know. Texas is known for. But the first time I seen Lean in the city was in Philly. And it was in little jars. It was not mixing that with soda or nothing.
Memphis Bleak
Me too.
Dave East
First time I ever seen it. You feel me?
Memphis Bleak
Yo, these used to be dead on the tour bus, bro. I used to hate these. We used to go to the show, go to the after party and wonder.
Young Gunner
How function off all day.
Memphis Bleak
You get on records, cuz.
Dave East
A be your. Your body know it.
Memphis Bleak
You get on the tour bus. These especially. C. Come on. M chill. M N. Not right now.
Dave East
M. You drawn.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, you draw.
Young Gunner
Remember, bro, we had the a bus to beep up. We had a few buses on that, remember?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, I used to come with. That's all season. You draw. M. Not right now. M draw. I'm telling you, the biggest used to have me pissed. Only one who was up with me was free him beans in them in the back of the bus dead. Like just filmed Scarface 8.
Dave East
I should have a. A walking zombie.
Memphis Bleak
No, that's a fact, bro. I'm glad both of y', all, you know, was able to. Let's get off these storms, baby. That's a fact, man. Cause these young boys is wild. That's crazy wild. And it's the drugs that went so far, man, is. Is insane, my nigga. Like, the amount of, like, weed and liquor always been my vice. I feel like ain't no higher than high. I don't want to skydive.
Dave East
I don't want to get highway. I can't come back. Yeah, somehow you can't come back.
Memphis Bleak
That's a fact. I had a. I ain't gonna say a name, but we had a in.
Young Gunner
The way before, it was cool. They make the street cool.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I'm saying.
Dave East
That's why start dropping.
Memphis Bleak
We had a in my. That. That what you said. You get high and can't come back. I knew a who was with you. Know what I mean? What was Them shits. They used to put it on their tongue paws and I think. I. I don't know what it's called the tab.
Dave East
This little dab.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, that disappearing them.
Young Gunner
Yo, he was on something else.
Dave East
Acid, though. He going off. Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
Go was starting a dog chase. You. He chased dogs? He was a dog.
Dave East
That all that.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, I'm telling you, he never came back, bro.
Dave East
I with the shrooms, you heard, like, before, like. And I feel like the shrooms.
Young Gunner
Give.
Dave East
You the kind of the effect of acid, but it don't fry you out.
Memphis Bleak
Like, you ain't never lose a limb on shrooms before, right? Because Red man lost his feet.
Young Gunner
Being the Matrix.
Dave East
But I seen some off it. I definitely didn't.
Young Gunner
Like.
Dave East
They definitely hallucinated off them.
Memphis Bleak
They had the rat on Hard knock. Red man lost his feet.
Dave East
Nah, I ain't losing some shrooms.
Memphis Bleak
I lost my feet. Yo. I got no feet. That's why I knew. Yeah, that's why I knew. Oh, I never take that. I need my feet.
Dave East
The real shroom.
Young Gunner
Like the actual mushroom.
Dave East
His.
Memphis Bleak
Not with me. Don't do that. We was together.
Young Gunner
I ain't say you take the.
Memphis Bleak
I ain't say you chill your word, man. That was a bad B. I missed the X era. Yo. I never took it, man.
Dave East
I missed the X era.
Memphis Bleak
I never with it. That's what I'm saying, man.
Dave East
Don't.
Memphis Bleak
Don't say you miss.
Dave East
I was a youngin. No, I was a youngin when the Ex was rocking.
Memphis Bleak
Because I miss.
Dave East
When I got outside, it was miles.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. But I knew a who took mad X. That. That stuttering Stanley now B off the X. Yeah. He can't talk, say a straight sentence. Shit crazy.
Dave East
Now pill to me, a pill is never the Vibe.
Memphis Bleak
Cause I feel like you can't control it.
Dave East
It do what it do once you take it.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, you can't tell a pill. Chill. I'm high.
Dave East
Like, nah, nah, stop. You can't stop it.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. You can't be like, pill. That's enough.
Dave East
That's enough.
Memphis Bleak
We had our limit.
Dave East
We had our limit.
Memphis Bleak
That shit's still going.
Dave East
That shit in motion. That shit doing what it do.
Memphis Bleak
That's why I only fuck with weedy.
Dave East
That shit doing what it do. Gangster. You can't stop. You gotta get by yourself somewhere. Like, get me outta here, bro. That pill pee. I done watch pill whoop a nigga ass, bro.
Memphis Bleak
Whoop?
Dave East
Pill didn't whoop my ass. I ain't, uh.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, no liquor, everything.
Dave East
You can stop. You can be like, all right, I drunk enough, I smoked enough, I could put the blunt down. Yeah, that pill is in motion, bro.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, that shit keep going as your.
Dave East
Night going on roller coaster. Whatever going on. You like, oh, this is still rolling.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. Was different, man. Was different. Them pills has never been my vice, man.
Dave East
Only young be.
Young Gunner
Young swallowing dog be.
Memphis Bleak
Like, I take a challenge. I take a perk. And your like, huh? I take a perk. I'm falling asleep on your bitch. That bitch robbed me. I took a perk.
Young Gunner
It's over.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, that's the new shit, too. You gotta be careful with these bitches out here drugging and robbing niggas. I know two victims. Yeah, the white yo, yo, yo, yo.
Dave East
Oh, I wanted to ask you that.
Memphis Bleak
God, I heard it. I heard it off the back. Yeah, I wanted to. Nigga through the way, alley, you.
Dave East
How you feel being considered the original first.
Memphis Bleak
Y. N. Yo, I seen that video.
Dave East
They calling you the first y&l and.
Memphis Bleak
I'mma tell whoever post that video. Yeah, he also.
Young Gunner
Because on some coming to A though early bleak, though.
Dave East
That was first yn.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, that was. That was reckless bleak.
Dave East
You're not standing on that. You're not the original. You not. That's the same.
Memphis Bleak
I'mma stand on. We was outside. We ain't give a fuck. But I'm not gonna stand on the message of that video.
Dave East
If they had the Y. N OG Awards and they. And they.
Memphis Bleak
Oh, yeah, we in there.
Dave East
You gonna get the Google. Get the. Yeah, all right. Bet. Bet.
Memphis Bleak
I go get it because I was the youngest nigga performing in the tunnel. Used to be in the skate Key empire. 16 years old. Meth bleak is shutting it down.
Dave East
That was crazy.
Memphis Bleak
Like, think I wasn't even old enough to be in the tunnel. I'm in there like 17, 18 years old. Let's get it it. You feel me? So we was outside first, like. But that video that's circulating, I'm be honest. True life gas me.
Dave East
Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
Shout out. Lindsay the kid. Lindsay was outside blobbing. So I'm looking at him like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how we do it. These. So I went crazy. Lizzie. It was his fault.
Dave East
One thing about footage, man, that shit never go away.
Memphis Bleak
Hard Knock Life tour. I was about, what, 18. Damn. Hard knock. Yeah, 18 on 19. And that tour was wicked. Cause y' all niggas had it easy. When y' all started coming on tour, you was able to bring your homies. Yo, this my man. This my manager. This, that me.
Young Gunner
You had to go dolo.
Memphis Bleak
You only could bring one nigga bleak. That's why I ain't got no friends. See, this is that talk is the reason why don't with me. Yeah. From that still affect this day today I go to the hood like you left me still watch this. I don't with that. He ain't bring me on tour. He picked bi.
Dave East
That was the 90s, man. Yo.
Memphis Bleak
D, they really mad like that. Bring me on tour.
Dave East
See the fun. Be really seeing the fun.
Memphis Bleak
Like we was jumping out of cabs on that tour. See? Running from the cabs like we was pop. Like this what I mean, this is why y' all gotta thank social media. Because we didn't have none of that. You know how we had to go find the weed on the Hard Knock Life tour?
Dave East
Huh?
Memphis Bleak
We had to go to the mall wall and look for a who look.
Dave East
Like us that might know.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. And then you run down on him like, yo, fam, what up? We out here on tour. We need that. Just imagine you do that today. Clapping you. You mean. I got the Wii, you police Bang dead Now, back then, that's how we had to find the Wii. And no, literally damn near every I ever met in the mall and bought weed from. Still my man to this day. Oh, God.
Dave East
Now get 20 dms before he get to that city.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, I got everything.
Dave East
I got it, I got it, I got it. Yo, I'm gonna meet you here, meet you.
Young Gunner
And I got some chrome heart bags.
Dave East
Smoke, bro.
Young Gunner
All kind of crazy ass designs.
Dave East
I feel like weed now is way.
Memphis Bleak
It's way more like they flooded.
Dave East
I feel like it always was probably mad weed, but it didn't feel like it was mad weed. You feel like you could get certain weed from certain. You could go to Uptown, go to Dykeman. Get certain. But I'm going tell you, I mean.
Memphis Bleak
Like, it's because they gave out so many licenses, you know, I'm in the game now. So I see what's going on. All the licenses they gave out for Canada, Colorado, so everybody license. Yeah. So they growing. And then in a lot of these cities, in a lot of these states that they growing the weed, the price of a pound is so cheap. So once they figure out, hold on, on. It cost me 300 to grow this pound and I'm selling it for $600. And I could sell this same pound for 2,000 in New York. I send all this to New York.
Dave East
Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
So that's what happened. How they, how the streets is just so flooded with so much weed, bro.
Young Gunner
Before coming from Kentucky, everywhere, even fly nowhere without it. But now I'll be like, now when.
Dave East
I get there, somebody is there.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, that's a fact.
Dave East
Only place that I ain't gonna make it hot when I take my little, my vacations and when I go to the islands and like that I break. I'm bringing that with me everywhere I go. Cuz I don't really know when I get over there. All right.
Memphis Bleak
It depends on what islands I got you plugged.
Dave East
Not, not. I'm, I'm Beijing. Like my, I'm, you know, I mean, I got family that's out there and all that, but a lot of times it be like, you know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
I like to bring that gas.
Dave East
You get what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
I ain't going to start over if you going overseas. Like, like me, bro, I did so much footwork because I always watch my crew behind the velvet rope. And I used to be like, nah, I'm going over here. Let me see what it's really like outside. So, bro, I don't give a fuck if you in Africa or Finland, hit me.
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Dave East
Oh, it's there now. You done, you know, global man, like.
Memphis Bleak
You know what I mean? Like boogieing. The Them a boogie. And it was in Paris, right? They hit. My little man called me, was like, yo, Bleak, you know somebody out here? Yes, I do. I got you. Took care of them. My little man was just in Egypt.
Dave East
Be needing that.
Memphis Bleak
It was like, yo, Bleak, I need a plug. I was like, I got you that. Say, he came home and said, yo, I'm never gonna tell. No, you the. You the greatest plug in the world. You got me in Egypt. My. I don't care where you go.
Young Gunner
I was in the States. I just called you number two weeks ago.
Memphis Bleak
I got you now. Egypt.
Dave East
Got it.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, he was in the O. Yep. That ain't a gun like that.
Dave East
We gonna just skip past that, like, yeah, Egypt is crazy.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I'm telling you, bro.
Dave East
My man is in Egypt right now. Don't worry about me. On the way to Egypt, I don't.
Memphis Bleak
Care where you go. I got you, bro. Finland, Africa, New Zealand. Wait, hold on. We gonna get to that. But listen, Finland, Africa, New Zealand. I don't give a. What part of the globe you land, bro. I just had family in Santorini. She hit me. She said. I said, where you at? Santorini, Greece. She was like, yeah. I was like, all right, give me 10 minutes. Got the plug there. Done. Listen, Blizzard, he was everywhere, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Blizzard, it's like I'm the connect. Just like y' all was on the song Casino, man said, the earth is my turf, baby. Yo, anywhere, I'm the plug, man. But, yo, the song Casino, y' all went dumb, man. How was that over here?
Young Gunner
Another record. We was in there together. See, when we in there, me and Cuz, we'd be cooking about at least three. At least three.
Memphis Bleak
So y' all got leftovers. So from Fine Dining, y' all got leftovers. Everything ain't make the cut. They like that one we gotta put. We might gotta give them the leftovers.
Dave East
Definitely got leftovers.
Young Gunner
They gotta get the leftovers.
Dave East
Yeah, man, that's a whole. Another tape. The leftovers.
Memphis Bleak
There we go, man.
Dave East
That's the project, y'. All.
Memphis Bleak
See, you already know A and R Blizzard.
Dave East
But not Casino. I feel like that's, you know, we flip az. That's. That's classic. Classic, right? So just to even fuck with that beat for me. Yeah, yeah.
Young Gunner
When that was on in the studio, it just took you back. It's just nostalgic, you know what I'm saying? That's why, even when I came with the verse, almost like the delivery. Cause I was thinking about the record, the original record, you know what I'm saying? That's why I'm about to lift delivery like that.
Memphis Bleak
I ain't gonna front. They tried to steal az. He from Brooklyn. Stop.
Dave East
My boy.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, my man. Let's bring up my man BG Real quick, though. Miami. That say, yo, Bleak, you interviewing Nas protege. If you was young, like, him talking that Nas, y' all have beef like that.
Young Gunner
That's funny.
Memphis Bleak
He was like, yo, y' all talking about beef right now?
Young Gunner
Oh, man, that's some shit.
Memphis Bleak
I was like, damn, word out time.
Dave East
Yeah. Depending on the year that might have been, like, man, I ain't doing talk with this, man.
Memphis Bleak
You know what's crazy, right? I was telling Nori, right? Because Nori was like, yo, who do you think you want to interview? Like, who would your dream interview be? So I told him, yo, I would love to sit down and talk to Nas, right? That's cool, because I want to ask him, right? Because one of the little homies from my projects, my man, the one who called me and told me, yo, son dissing you on this track. And that's what made me go at him. So I said to Nori Story, Imagine I sit there and I ask the yo, son on this record like, yo, was you talking about me? And he like, nah.
Dave East
That'Ll up your whole.
Memphis Bleak
That means I started smoke for nothing.
Dave East
You ain't talking about you.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, right. Yeah, yo, that'd be some crazy. That would be like, bleak. Oh, he made a good time in hip hop, but he up, dog. Like, so what was that like? Like, you ever been in the stud, like, direct when Nas getting. Getting pointers from him?
Dave East
Thousand percent.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah.
Dave East
Thousand percent. I feel like with him, it was as hype as I was to know it was real. Like, oh, nah, he really fucking with me, like, the way he was. And, like, the vibe we caught, like, the hype went away immediately. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, nah, that's really my.
Memphis Bleak
My dog.
Dave East
It's my nigga right here. You know what I mean? Like, the fan shit kind of of went out the way. Like, it was always there, but it was like high years. It was like, oh, nah, I. With this. Like, you know what I'm saying? Solid, solid, dude.
Memphis Bleak
I was a goat Man, I bought it. Ain't hard to tell, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was a fan, you know what I mean? A lot of these. You know what's so crazy? I was telling Cam that that is whack. That being from the same city. Of course, your music is all playing on one or two stations, so I'm forced to hear your music. And when you get in smoke with. It's like, now I'm not supposed to like your music, right? Know they be playing your on the low like this, like, nah, he killed.
Dave East
This stuff like that.
Memphis Bleak
Like, yeah, nah, sir still get busy. Yeah, like, gotta salute it.
Young Gunner
That was hot, you know what I'm saying? Can't knock the. You feel me?
Dave East
See, but like we were saying earlier with the. The difference where Atlanta and it's the New York nigga. It's the ego of a nigga from the town, you know what I mean? Like, we just feel like. Like you from Brooklyn, you. Y' all feel like, what. It's Brooklyn. It's Brooklyn over everything we was raised on. You feel like that up. Like, that's. That's just a new. That's some New York, bro. Like, and Queens feel the same way. Bronx feel the same.
Memphis Bleak
Like, I feel like we just need to put that energy towards getting that check.
Dave East
Why not?
Memphis Bleak
Instead of putting it towards each other?
Dave East
The bag been there. It been there.
Memphis Bleak
And it's waiting.
Dave East
Yeah, it been there.
Memphis Bleak
You know the. Like I said, unity brings checks, man. You seen Queen Latifah for ever since she made you. And I ty right out of here. Out of here. You know what I'm saying? And you on that same wave, like, as rapper turning actor. And that's. That's dope, man. It's not many of us who survived in that game. I did what, two, two rows. And nobody never hollered back like, nah, get bleak out of here. Pack them up. Pack him up.
Dave East
You was clapping.
Memphis Bleak
You was finishing.
Dave East
Stay probably in that movie. You was my. He was my. And stay proud. You was finishing.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, the day they told me I'mma die, I'm like, no way.
Dave East
Nah. They gonna clip, bleed. Don't do that.
Memphis Bleak
And yo, I ain't gonna lie. They ain't never gonna never bring up how Beans ratted on me, though. Beans called them people on me, like, yeah, get that. Yo, word A. Put me in part two. Cause they know how to tow they toe. Cuz.
Dave East
They killed my son Blizz, man.
Memphis Bleak
They had me run down on seat. No, Beans ran down no seeing, though. I Was with Beans. I was the muscle. Was like, yeah, get down.
Dave East
She said, get down. She said, get down.
Young Gunner
He had to drop on us, dog. Dang.
Dave East
He threw that up the street. That said bow.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. Yo, that move so fun.
Dave East
My, like, we y' all legends for that, though. Like, in the hood, that won an Oscar in the trenches. You crazy.
Young Gunner
Cutting class to be in that movie.
Memphis Bleak
Hell, yeah. And we shot it in the school.
Dave East
That's crazy. You feel what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
Like, think about it.
Dave East
That's classic to us, right?
Memphis Bleak
And our dressing room was in the school. Yeah.
Dave East
These were really young. And it's like, n. We ain't going to math today.
Young Gunner
We ain't going to school today. We going. Yeah, right, bro.
Dave East
See, that's hard. That's hard. That's hard, bro.
Memphis Bleak
And all that, bro.
Young Gunner
Everything used to get on. It's like, I got to go back to school, man. D was on our ass. But, you know, man, this too kept going up.
Memphis Bleak
Music business, man, this, that.
Young Gunner
My homies wear the Jerry to school. I'm dropping my folks off the school.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I mean, man. Like, just think about it, bro.
Dave East
Yeah, that's different.
Memphis Bleak
Just the words you think in your mind that you put on the paper, you was able to make a way to feed your family, man, that's a blessing, man. And. And to continue, like you said, you've been in it 10 years. You've been in it 23 years. See, different. Like, bro, just to get one year run, just five years is insane. I gotta feel like we've seen so.
Young Gunner
Many come and go.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I'm saying, bro. And to still be here, bro, like, that's a blessing. People still checking for you. Like you said, you got the joint. October. I mean. Yeah. October 25th. Coming out 15th.
Dave East
Yeah, the 15th.
Memphis Bleak
Comma, 4.
Dave East
We here, man.
Memphis Bleak
You still moving. That's insane, bro. Like, I commend y', all, man. Y' all the next wave. Gunner, you really. I'm. Yo. Well, bro, this cheating.
Dave East
One thing with me, I ain't getting this.
Memphis Bleak
Oh, yeah, though. Oh, yeah, what you said.
Dave East
No, I was saying I ain't getting this To. To. To. To not keep doing what I'm doing. You know what I mean? I ain't. I didn't look at it as a. I'm gonna do this for five years and get out this.
Memphis Bleak
It ain't. No, you don't put. No.
Dave East
I ain't never look at it like that. You know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
I'm just saying, just for the people to even still be checking, because I think about the niggas that I came in the game with. Excuse me. How many of them still here? Only really kiss, you know what I mean? Rule still touring, right? Who else? Everybody else background dances now. You feel me? Like, they back there. Put your hands right behind. Put your hands with my eyes can see. Hey, they hype it up, pump it up before I get on stage. You know what I'm saying? Like, who else? They not outside no more, bro. So that's what I mean. To have that run and still be here is insane. But, yo, I definitely gotta say, yo, my man, you wowed out D East. You wow. You told niggas holla at bleep. They wanna speak.
Dave East
The hoes holla at Myth, man. No, don't.
Memphis Bleak
These don't hot, yo.
Dave East
They go waiting on this, yo. Yeah, I'm like, when I said that, then I was like, oh, I might have said that in a bar.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, it was a bar.
Dave East
Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm just popping.
Memphis Bleak
My man said, holla. I be seeing certain in my dm, too.
Dave East
Like, yo, they took that to heart when I said that, right?
Memphis Bleak
You get the word to hov, and I be looking at like, nah, I can't.
Dave East
I'm not doing that.
Memphis Bleak
I even bring your name. I might be kicked out the whip for six months. Like, no ho don't want to hear from you.
Dave East
He don't want to hear from you, dog.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, I remember, see, I went through.
Dave East
That rascal for the last 10 years, man.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, bro, you think Nas wanna.
Dave East
No, bro.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, bro, when I had.
Dave East
Bro, he don't wanna.
Memphis Bleak
You think we just not this song.
Dave East
In mind for this song, right? He don't want to hear that, bro.
Memphis Bleak
When I had the warehouse, I'm not.
Dave East
About to be the middleman.
Memphis Bleak
Remember when I had the warehouse where I'm at, I had a lot of artists on the warehouse. And I remember ho on me. I called them to talk about certain artists, and that was like, yo, bleak. Like, yo, you know, to you, it's regular this, bro, right? But you know when you talk about these, this like, I'm Jay Z. Like, you know what I do in my day? I don't want to hear about these. Like, you. You kidding me? Like, damn. I was like, I had to sit there and really think about it. Like, this could be on the phone discussing billion dollar deals, $100 million deals, and I'm over here talking about some mixtape. This, like, don't call. What.
Dave East
What levels, man. Yeah, always levels to.
Memphis Bleak
That's a fact. So that's why when you said that, it was like, nah, I don't want him to think, yo, he gonna be calling me about these now. No, I'm not hov. I'm only calling you about me, baby.
Dave East
That went with the rhyme. I ain't gonna find. It's cool, though. It's cool.
Memphis Bleak
It look like they can holla at me.
Dave East
I ain't had no intent behind that.
Memphis Bleak
They just better have that check. I'm. I'mma tell them hov we gonna do it like we used to do, yo. Yeah, yeah, let's hov on the phone. Yeah, take care of my bro and them. You know what I'm saying? Drop that bag.
Dave East
You heard? Get that right?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, they got that bag.
Young Gunner
We could go to home, crack it on the phone.
Memphis Bleak
We definitely got to get the dog. We got to get him with us. Want to talk the whole. At that deposit. Here he go like, yo, what up? I'm telling y', all, man. Take care of the bros, man.
Dave East
They going to say, I just spoke the old skit.
Memphis Bleak
Where a talk about. About he ordering the J voice ordering from the restaurant, talking to me. I want 100 orders of chicken. And the lady was like, I don't believe this. Jay Z come in. He was like, bleak. She ain't going for it.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Damn.
Memphis Bleak
Why I'm in the car?
Dave East
You was in the whip.
Memphis Bleak
Please.
Young Gunner
She ain't going for it.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, that had me dying. My. The game is crazy. The skits, Internet. Yo, do y' all see? See, I just seen you on the part with Jim in them, man. Shout out Jim Fab Mayo, my guys. Yeah, man.
Young Gunner
Y' all ready to start one?
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. Y' all starting one as a unit?
Dave East
Yeah.
Memphis Bleak
Nah, that's dope, man.
Dave East
That's dope, man.
Young Gunner
That's gonna be hot.
Memphis Bleak
That's dope, man.
Dave East
It's dope for me, for sure. Like, I feel like I'm the. You know, I'm the youngin out the. Out the group, so I get the.
Memphis Bleak
But you just.
Young Gunner
You just as important give my outlook, like you said.
Dave East
You know what I mean? But I'm also outside right now to them as well, so it's like, you know, I mean, for sure. And this whole for me be dope because, like, I. I feel like I'm still the. The young and you still learning who I'm the fans of.
Young Gunner
No, that's heavy.
Dave East
You know what I mean? And I get to do different. Yeah. I mean, whether it be the music, whatever it be like.
Memphis Bleak
That's right.
Dave East
It'd be. I feel like I'm where I supposed to be at, you know?
Memphis Bleak
One thing I. One piece of advice I would say to all the, the young guys getting money now. Man, man, please, man, invest your money wisely.
Dave East
Yeah, 100%.
Memphis Bleak
Please. Invest, make moves. Because I never thought about the game stopping. I never thought about Rockefeller being over for sure. So when they pulled the rug from under us, you know the magic trick? When they pull the tablecloth and the. The glasses are still standing like nothing happened. That's how I felt when Rockefeller ended.
Young Gunner
Absolutely.
Memphis Bleak
It was like I didn't feel it shift, but it shifted, shifted, you know what I'm saying? And when it did, I wasn't prepared. So I always said to myself, familiar, so the next time I get a look ounce, I'm acquiring businesses all day. Because if it ever stop, you never want your income to stop. So that's my, my word of advice is like, whatever you love, bro. I don't care what kind of business it is. And like, don't be the guy too trying to chase 100% of businesses. 100% of a business is a failed business. Anything you own 100% of is not making no money. Like, you have to break bread with everybody. So this for it to make money, you know what I'm saying? Like, people look down on percent of me. Shit, give me 1%. That 1% turned into a billion. That's a hundred million for me. I'm good. You feel me? So.
Dave East
And I gotta deal with the stresses of having 100% of it and running.
Memphis Bleak
It, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to run the business day to day, but definitely get your portfolio up and invest your money, man. Like, because y', all, y' all making way more money than we did for a show, bro. Like, in my heyday, top, top day, the most I ever got paid for a show was about 13 bands. I laugh at that. Y' all ain't just hitting the stage. Today, I be hand getting 60, 70,000. Like, huh, make I take your kids to school tomorrow, you give me 50 kids to hit the stage. Don't worry, you got a babysitter tomorrow, you and wifey could go out. I got it. Straight up, straight up. 50. Send the kids to the crib. Don't worry. Disney right down the block.
Dave East
But you know what off of that, what you saying? I wonder what was the shift? Cause back then I felt like you made more money off your album going platinum or whatever.
Memphis Bleak
Not necessarily. You had to recoup First. So a lot of went to the studio was ordering Cleco Chris style.
Dave East
I came back on that.
Memphis Bleak
Instead of going to Chris roof, they was ordering roof. So all that studio budget was hitting, bro. Like, blew millions. Like, I remember looking at a budget to where Guru looked at me and was like, bleak. You bugging. We gotta finish this in the crib. Ain't no way we could finish this in baseline. We don't have no more money, like, you know what I'm saying?
Dave East
Y' all budgets was way bigger, though.
Memphis Bleak
Yes.
Dave East
We had a budget like that.
Memphis Bleak
We didn't think about the recoupment, you know what I mean? So once you recoup, a lot of people never recoup.
Dave East
Never recoup that, bro.
Young Gunner
We spent well over a hundred thousand for no Better Love video.
Dave East
Look for the vid, just for the.
Memphis Bleak
Video, you know what I'm saying? And now niggas hopping out with just the one nigga with the red on the blocks.
Dave East
Shoot this and that.
Memphis Bleak
Go viral straight up, two hours away from Cali, like.
Dave East
But used to sit and wait to watch that video. Yeah. Whether it was Rap City 107, whatever.
Memphis Bleak
It was on, like, they doing the same thing. You know how many barber shops and how many cribs I go to? They just got you rocking all. Yeah, just rocking all day.
Young Gunner
That's why I hit you one day and told you, like, you got some.
Memphis Bleak
You been working all day, just rocking. That's what I'm saying. East, I see you all over the place. My. You got video videos with everybody everywhere you working. Can't say you ain't working. 100. You got over probably 10,000 videos.
Dave East
Word up, bro. That's the new. That's the new, though. You gotta stand it, you. I mean, the phones, bro. They on them phones, man, so.
Memphis Bleak
And I'm glad you got my bro working because he been a quiet assassin. He just wasn't single.
Dave East
C been one of my top. My top for forever, bro. And the funny part with me and him, we been locked in. Yeah. For years. You get what I'm saying?
Young Gunner
The better the chemistry, the better. That's why the music sound like that.
Dave East
It was finally like, all right, look what we doing.
Memphis Bleak
Cause he did a lot of work. He just didn't shoot a lot of videos. Absolutely. That's a fact. See, then you dropped a lot of projects and you ain't capitalized on the videos.
Young Gunner
Visual's more important than audio today. Now, as you can see, me and Bro shot majority of the team shooting.
Dave East
We shooting.
Memphis Bleak
That's What I'm saying?
Young Gunner
And we ain't done.
Dave East
Cause nigga want. You know what I mean? What I learned now, bro.
Memphis Bleak
The youth.
Dave East
Is on these, bro. Like, so they, like our age and older is listening to what we actually saying. Everybody else want to see something.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah.
Dave East
You know what I mean? They want to see the video. They want to see what we got on. They want to see where we at.
Young Gunner
Niggas lazy.
Dave East
You got put it in their face.
Memphis Bleak
You know what I mean?
Dave East
They want to see camaraderie, want to see the holes in the video. They just want to see the vibe.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. They want to make sure they want.
Dave East
To be able to sit and watch that, bro. You know what I mean? So you a fool at this day and age, if you dropping music and you don't got a visual to follow it. You gotta. The visual is just as important as the audio to me. Sometimes it's more important, probably more now. You know what I mean?
Memphis Bleak
Sometimes it is because it's a lot of artists today. Like you were saying, like, you. Like, in my day, you had the people. Like, I heard this both from the Damn. You know what I mean? God bless both of them. DMX and Irv Gotti, man. Like, they both was two people on it. Like, you trying to write the best rhyme that nobody gonna remember. They only gonna remember the hook. So it ain't about being the nicest, you know what I'm saying? So that's one thing that used to stick in my mind, like, bleak. It just get the verses done. Known as the hook. Bang. Get the verses.
Young Gunner
When we did set it off, man, and Swiss was telling us, like, yo, just do eight bars versus. It's like anytime the hook big, like, you always want to hurry up and get back to that hook, you know what I'm saying?
Memphis Bleak
Yo ain't got to ball them up.
Young Gunner
Too crazy.
Dave East
That's what they going to sing along.
Memphis Bleak
To producers to work with. Like, out of everybody, y', all, you got a favorite producer you love working with. Like, who your favorite or you would want to work with?
Dave East
I feel like I worked with the majority of my favorites besides, like, Alchemist. Yeah, that's crazy. I ain't get with Alk yet.
Memphis Bleak
That's crazy.
Dave East
You know what's crazy? I've rapped on Alchemist beat, but I was a feature on somebody else's joint. Me and Alk ain't. We ain't got to sit together.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, no, I make that happen.
Dave East
I got with the majority of the people I wanted to work with.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, you seen Like a maybe.
Young Gunner
Like a doctor dream.
Dave East
Dre. Yeah, Dre.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
For sure.
Young Gunner
For sure.
Dave East
Doc.
Memphis Bleak
Timbo.
Dave East
I got with Timbo on survival. We did a joint. I got to go down there, lock in with him.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah, yeah. Nah, that's dope. Swiss was always one of my favorite producers, of course.
Dave East
Desire.
Memphis Bleak
Yeah. Swiss will give you that, and he'll coach you through it, too.
Dave East
You ain't.
Young Gunner
You ain't leaving Swiss without nothing.
Memphis Bleak
But that's how you got. Set it off. Y Cuz I went down there and made like that. It's. Yo, bro, it's so crazy like that. The song was wrote out of sync. The third verse was the first verse I wrote. You know what I mean? And the first verse was the last verse I wrote. And Swizz was like, sound first. Do this one and do this. And then when I said the slow down. And then he like, yo, put that in every verse. I'm like, all right, I got you. And that's how we made the record. And I remember going to the office because that's when they was playing their records, too. We dropped the album at the same time, and it was like, yo, we looking for a single. I'm like, yo, Swizz got that shit. Was like, for real. Like, yo, go down there right now.
Young Gunner
My.
Memphis Bleak
Them niggas came back with two singles for sure.
Dave East
Swiss, Swiss, different, different.
Memphis Bleak
I'm telling you, he got that shit. My nigga, that's one of the best producers I like working.
Dave East
For sure. Yeah, for sure. His energy, too. Beyond the beast.
Memphis Bleak
Swiss, he'll sell you a corny beat just by how he moving.
Dave East
Swiss Energy. One on one.
Memphis Bleak
One.
Dave East
I lost for Swish to give you some.
Memphis Bleak
Just sitting there like this. You like that? Gotta be hot.
Dave East
Look at me. That.
Young Gunner
Gonna sell that.
Dave East
Word up.
Memphis Bleak
It gotta be hot.
Young Gunner
Sure.
Memphis Bleak
Like told, man. I appreciate y' all coming up. Kicking it with the dog, man. Dining out Leftovers coming. Dropping on the floor. Fifteenth. Yeah, fourth.
Dave East
The fourth joint.
Memphis Bleak
Yo, listen, y' all niggas, man. Keep killing. Keep getting to that bread, man. Stay healthy, man. Family, you know, make sure family good. And keep winning. My guys, man. I love that y' all ain't involved with none of this hate that's going on, man.
Dave East
Ain't no room for that, man.
Memphis Bleak
Nah, man, that fucked up.
Dave East
You know what I learned? You know what I learned, bro? Like, and no knock to nobody. That be going through it out here with the rap shit. You know what I mean? But I feel like when you really have been through it before rap, you don't want. I didn't get. I didn't get here. I don't know. I never met.
Memphis Bleak
I don't.
Dave East
I ain't grow with y'. All.
Young Gunner
We got in this to get away.
Dave East
I'm trying to get to it.
Memphis Bleak
That's what I be trying to say to these kids.
Dave East
Study the kids up and go and go see the world, bro.
Memphis Bleak
That's millions to be on some. Yo, I'm a drill, y'.
Dave East
All.
Memphis Bleak
Well, I'm spinning the block right now.
Dave East
I ain't mad at you. I ain't got time to be mad.
Memphis Bleak
At you in the show foot car. That's how I'm spending. And I'm gonna say what up to everybody outside, too. But word, man, like I said, I appreciate y' all keep killing. Keep doing your thing, man. Stay healthy.
Dave East
Appreciate you keep winning, bro.
Memphis Bleak
Man, got my cheese, man. Rock solid, man. Anytime, yo. Anytime y' all wanted. My house is your house. My door is always open. Family, man. You know you my brother, dog.
Dave East
Absolutely, bro.
Memphis Bleak
Anytime. Even if y' all want to come up here and curse out a baby mama or two, it's all good. You know what it is. Rock solid, baby. Do sa Mafia J. For more podcasts from I Heart red radio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding, flag them.
Hunter
I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. Stories like Erica Hunt, a young mother vanished without a trace after a family gathering on 4th of July weekend 2016. No goodbyes, no clues, just gone. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, Chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you.
Memphis Bleak
100% of women go through menopause. Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia, had 30.
Dave East
Agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
Memphis Bleak
Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?
Young Gunner
Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.
Memphis Bleak
The flash of light.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
Listen to the Chinese Chinatown sting on.
Memphis Bleak
The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.
Dave East
What's up, everybody? It's snacks from the Trap nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the horror.
Young Gunner
Boogity, boogity, boogity.
Memphis Bleak
We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.
Dave East
And it's the return of Tony's horror.
Memphis Bleak
Show side Quest Riddle and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary.
Dave East
And we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free iHeartRadio app and search Trap Nerds podcast and listen.
Memphis Bleak
Now.
Dr. Elizabeth Poynter
This is an iHeart podcast.
Episode: Dave East & Young Chris
Release Date: October 14, 2025
Host: Memphis Bleek
Guests: Dave East & Young Chris (a.k.a. Young Gunner)
In this lively, freewheeling episode of ROC Solid, Memphis Bleek sits down with Harlem’s Dave East and Philly’s Young Chris for an unfiltered rap session. The conversation dives into the making of their collaborative album Fine Dining 2, the challenges and changes in hip-hop over the decades, the grind of indie artistry, stories from the Roc-A-Fella era, acting, business insights, and keeping it solid through legacy, growth, and competition. Laced with true hip-hop camaraderie, humor, and nostalgia, the podcast delivers honest industry reflections and advice for the next generation.
Dave East and Young Chris discuss their process recording Fine Dining 2, emphasizing how most songs were created together in the studio, not by sending verses.
"Keep it real. Who y'all niggas was trying to murk each other?"
— Memphis Bleek [05:12]
"I ain't gonna lie… But bro, he get busy. It was like, damn, I gotta up it."
— Dave East & Young Chris [05:16]
Dave East explains his approach to his first indie project, highlighting creative control, no outside influence, and a blend of new and longtime collaborators.
Young Chris reflects on a 23-year career, emphasizing work ethic and appreciating the journey.
"I ain't done. I'm just getting started… Never got off my bike. Even when they haven't heard me mainstream, I was delivering.”
— Young Chris [06:57–07:14]
Young Chris discusses his past projects and underground success; Bleek stresses that the "right people" always checked for his work, regardless of mainstream buzz. [07:45]
"Wayno really, he walked me in this shit. Yeah."
— Dave East [09:11]
Dave East talks about his acting journey—playing Method Man in Hulu’s Wu-Tang: An American Saga was transformative.
“I feel like that was one of them once-in-a-lifetime experiences... shots to RZA... But Meth, everybody... that was dope.”
— Dave East [09:50–10:10]
The conversation touches on hip-hop artists’ evolution, with Dave East and Young Chris’s work in modeling and brand partnerships (Puma, Kith, Sprite, McDonald’s).
“For this generation… If you was born in 2000… I feel like that generation, everybody you just named inspired me to do it.”
— Dave East [12:59–13:21]
Bleek and Dave East reflect on changes in the music business, warning against losing your voice to industry or label pressures.
“When you first start making music, you making music for yourself… then you start making music for the niggas and you lose your way.”
— Memphis Bleek [15:29]
Dave East emphasizes returning to his artistic roots now that he’s independent.
“I think this is the first time… I really was able to get back to that.”
— Dave East [17:00]
They discuss mixtape era freedom vs. album pressures and major label strategizing.
Celebrating Dave East’s billion streams accomplishment, they critique streaming payouts.
"To have a billion people play your music is amazing… but the money they give you for it… we should equate it to a billion dollars."
— Memphis Bleek [19:46–20:00]
Bleek urges new artists not to neglect radio and DJ relationships, as DJ support is crucial for building sustained success.
“Don’t give up on radio. Don’t give up on the DJ. The DJ is very important, bro…”
— Memphis Bleek [20:55]
“Some shit just gotta did what it did. Gotta embrace what it did. On to the next.”
— Dave East [24:51–24:54]
The trio poke fun at changes in the dating scene, the pressure for expensive dates, and the impact of social media on expectations, image, and hustle. [27:43–34:59]
Dave East and Young Chris talk about how Instagram and online culture are a gift and curse: heightened exposure, but also stranger DMs and 'access' to celebrities.
“The curse of [social media] is everybody is too familiar with everybody…”
— Dave East [34:20]
"Our ego go get in the way nine times out of ten… not speaking for me personally.”
— Dave East [38:05]
“We might gotta give them the leftovers.”
— Memphis Bleek [56:05]
Dave East shares what it’s like working with Nas, the advice received, and how initial fan awe quickly turned into a real relationship.
"The fan shit kind of went out the way… solid, solid dude."
— Dave East [58:53]
Humorous exchange with Bleek on how former rivalries (e.g., with Nas) sometimes start on hearsay and could be avoided.
"Imagine I sit there and I ask the… yo, son on this record, like, ‘yo, was you talking about me?’ And he like, ‘nah’… that means I started smoke for nothing."
— Memphis Bleek [58:12]
Bleek stresses, "unity brings checks," pointing out Queen Latifah and others who've converted a music career into multimillion-dollar brands. Dave East is praised for parlaying his image into acting and endorsement deals.
Dave East notes rappers must keep evolving and investing, for music is no longer a secure, lifelong income stream on its own.
“I ain’t getting this to not keep doing what I’m doing… I ain’t never look at it like that.”
— Dave East [63:46]
"Anything you own 100% of is not making no money... break bread for it to make money... give me 1%. That 1% turns to a billion, that’s a hundred million for me."
— Memphis Bleek [70:10]
“Swiss Energy One on One.”
— Dave East [77:20]
"I ain't gonna lie... But bro, he get busy. It was like, damn, I gotta up it."
— Dave East & Young Chris [05:16]
“Don’t give up on radio. Don’t give up on the DJ. The DJ is very important, bro…”
— Memphis Bleek [20:55]
“That be the best music, bro. When you’re not thinking about it, that’s the best music.”
— Dave East [17:11]
“To have a billion people play your music is amazing… but the money they give you for it… we should equate it to a billion dollars.”
— Memphis Bleek [19:46]
“That was one of them once-in-a-lifetime experiences…”
— Dave East [09:50]
“I get DMs that say I’m being evicted… It’s me and my eight month baby… These are complete strangers.”
— Dave East [35:01]
“Half of the joints today that are getting the Uber would have not gotten a yellow Cab.”
— Dave East [30:14]
"You a fool at this day and age, if you dropping music and you don't got a visual to follow it."
— Dave East [74:17]
“Our ego go get in the way nine times out of ten.”
— Dave East [38:05]
"Invest your money wisely... Anything you own 100% of is not making no money."
— Memphis Bleek [70:10]
"I ain’t getting this to not keep doing what I’m doing.”
— Dave East [63:46]
The episode is full of rapid-fire banter, inside jokes, competitive flexes, unfiltered real talk, and nostalgic storytelling—true to ROC Solid’s tagline: "raw, unfiltered, and 100% ROC solid." It’s both a masterclass in industry wisdom and a celebration of hip-hop’s evolving culture.