Episode 4 w/ Young Chris

Summary

ROC Solid Episode 4: Memphis Bleek Hosts Young Chris

Release Date: July 1, 2025
Hosts: Memphis Bleek and Young Chris
Produced by: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction: Reconnecting with a Brother from Roc-A-Fella

In Episode 4 of ROC Solid, hosted by Memphis Bleek, he welcomes longtime friend and fellow Roc-A-Fella artist, Young Chris. The episode serves as a heartfelt reunion, delving into their shared history, mutual respect, and the enduring bonds formed through their time with Roc-A-Fella Records.

Clarifying Misunderstandings: "Jerk Sauce" and Artistic Integrity

Early in the conversation, Memphis addresses a misunderstanding from a previous appearance on Drink Champs regarding the term "Jerk Sauce." He clarifies, “nobody in my crew ever gonna be called Jerk Sauce. These is my brothers” ([01:40]). This sets the tone for mutual respect and underscores their commitment to maintaining a united front within their crew.

Early Careers and Milestones: From Hot 97 to Grammy Nominations

Young ChrisReflects on his early career milestones, including his first radio appearance on Hot 97, where he received a pivotal call from Jay-Z. “This my first time on the radio... I think we probably went, like, on a Friday” ([03:28]). They discuss the pressure and excitement of these early moments, highlighting how these experiences helped cement their places in hip-hop.

Tours and Collaborations: Building the Roc-A-Fella Legacy

The duo reminisces about their tours together, including solo tours and group projects like the Liquid Sprite Tour and the State Property Tour. Memphis shares stories from the road, emphasizing the camaraderie and challenges they faced. “We go to Brutal... We out here moving and grooving” ([67:32]).

Notable Quote:
Memphis Bleek at [25:18]: “Yo. Dang came on. Yo, his face just popped up and I was like, yo, ain't tell me he was gonna be on here.”
Young Chris at [25:20]: “Mr. Jones, he in the Grammys. Yeah, Mom. He took his mom, too.”

Behind the Scenes Stories: Anecdotes from the Road

The episode is rich with behind-the-scenes anecdotes, from mishaps like losing earrings and dealing with on-tour violence to humorous incidents involving their crew. One memorable story involves “Shorty... she swallowed the earring” ([14:52]-[15:21]), showcasing the unpredictable nature of life on tour.

Notable Quote:
Memphis Bleek at [15:09]: “We should the. We took the mattresses off everything couldn’t find.”

State Property Album and Movie: Creative Ventures and Challenges

Discussing the State Property album and its accompanying movie, Memphis and Young Chris delve into their contributions and the challenges they faced, such as missing verses and acting without a script. “I didn’t get a verse on that album... One or two. That's crazy.” ([28:05]).

Notable Quote:
Young Chris at [28:50]: “Like I said, it was actually fun. Cause it ain't like no, no, no script.”

Evolution of the Music Industry: From Radio to Digital Distribution

A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the transformation of the music industry from traditional radio promotion to the digital age. They discuss the increasing costs of producing records and the challenges artists face in distributing their music without the backing of major labels. “They cheating us... digital guy now.” ([38:56]).

Notable Quote:
Memphis Bleek at [37:35]: “I remember when I got the information being in... the cost of producing records is higher now.”

Personal Lives: Fatherhood and Motivation

Young Chris shares personal updates, including the birth of his daughter, which has become a significant motivation in his life and career. “My son CJ... he's flying, boy.” ([11:42]-[12:08]).

Notable Quote:
Young Chris at [36:02]: “My son CJ, man.”

Reflections on Jay-Z and Kanye West: Creative Minds and Collaborations

Memphis and Young Chris reflect on their interactions with Jay-Z and Kanye West, particularly during the creation of the Dynasty album. They recount how Kanye’s innovative approach to beat-making influenced their collaborative efforts. “We started the Dynasty album that day.” ([73:53])

Notable Quote:
Memphis Bleek at [73:53]: “We started the Dynasty album that day.”
Young Chris at [75:20]: “It's a fact.”

Current Projects and Future Plans: New Collaborations and Music Releases

Looking ahead, both artists express excitement about upcoming projects and collaborations with rising stars like Dave East and Ryder. Young Chris mentions, “We got something sizzling right now... super excited for that.” ([41:32]).

Notable Quote:
Young Chris at [41:21]: “We got something sizzling right now. Yeah, I've been cooking.”

Closing Thoughts: Brotherhood and Enduring Legacy

The episode concludes with reflections on their enduring brotherhood and the lasting legacy of Roc-A-Fella Records in hip-hop. They emphasize the importance of staying united, supporting each other’s ventures, and continuing to contribute positively to the culture.

Notable Quote:
Memphis Bleek at [42:45]: “This is rock solid and we rock life, you know.”
Young Chris at [69:08]: “We got more while we here, man.”

Highlights and Key Takeaways

• Brotherhood and Respect: The deep, familial bonds between Memphis Bleek and Young Chris highlight the importance of unity and respect within their crew.

• Navigating Industry Changes: Their discussion underscores the challenges artists face with the shift from radio to digital distribution, emphasizing the need for adaptability.

• Personal Growth: Young Chris’s journey into fatherhood exemplifies how personal life events can influence and motivate one’s artistic endeavors.

• Legacy of Roc-A-Fella: The episode serves as a tribute to the lasting impact of Roc-A-Fella Records and its artists on the hip-hop landscape.

• Future Collaborations: Excitement for upcoming projects indicates a continued active presence in the music industry, promising fresh collaborations and releases.

Conclusion

Episode 4 of ROC Solid offers an intimate glimpse into the lives of Memphis Bleek and Young Chris, celebrating their shared history, discussing the evolution of the hip-hop industry, and looking forward to future endeavors. With candid conversations, memorable anecdotes, and reflective insights, this episode is a treasure trove for fans and newcomers alike, showcasing the enduring spirit and solidarity of Roc-A-Fella’s finest.

Transcript

[Memphis Bleak]

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[Young Chris]

By the way, that energy out your name. Amazing, my bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

I appreciate you, but first things first, let y' all know, ain't nobody in my crew ever gonna be called Jerk Sauce. These is my brothers, right? And if I'm gonna call them Jerk Sauce, I'm gonna call myself Jerk Sauce. We'll be a Jerk Sauce crew. But that was never the vibe right.

[Young Chris]

There we talked about. I ain't even tripping about that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Nah, but I told you, I gotta fix that. A lot of people thought that I was coming at you, but my thing was, I just wanted to clarify that I never heard, like, I hear people talking about the Jay Z stole your style, all this, but I'm like, I hate that, bro.

[Young Chris]

I told them they don't do nothing for me.

[Memphis Bleak]

But that's exactly what you told me, man.

[Young Chris]

Me, my kids, none of that. I'm serious about this. Like, for real, for real. And I told Esser, I'm like, yo, you got. Like, I'll be ready to tell before I do the interview. Like, yo, everything except that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I thought, like, playing the fifth one, that was the route to go. Like, yo, I ain't even. I'm looking past this. You understand what I'm saying, right? But it's like something that. That carried that followed me my entire career, and I've been just trying to, like, work past the comparisons.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, do y' all understand? Exactly.

[Young Chris]

Talking about my.

[Memphis Bleak]

Exactly.

[Young Chris]

Like baby on that label. You talking about the. The. The. The rock was already rock. Rock solid.

[Memphis Bleak]

Exactly. And that's what I've been trying to tell people, that we grew up together. Still. Sharp is still. Everybody learned off each other. That' being in baseline, man. Come on.

[Young Chris]

We asked and I had to come at the all that.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, we had some movies. Yo, look, yo, trust me. Hold on. Let's go back, though. See? Cause we start from the beginning.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, for sure.

[Memphis Bleak]

How you felt on Hot 97 Freestyle when you got the call from the big homie, like. Cause he called everybody. Make sure y' all got y' all shit together.

[Young Chris]

I got your shit ready. I ain't gonna lie. I think I got the call. I think we probably went, like, on a Friday, if I'm mistaken. I got the call the. The two way.

[Memphis Bleak]

We had two ways.

[Young Chris]

Motorolas. I think Karlene hit us and was like, yo, Jay said, be ready Friday. Mind you, this is my first time on the radio.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yup.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying? So I'm up that joint trying to edit my own curse words up there and everything. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

He only 16. Yeah.

[Young Chris]

Coming after all that pressure, man, I never knew that that would be as big as it was till this day, like, to this day, that helped us make our mark. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was great. Come on, man. Don't know, man. The Guns is one of the only groups to be nominated for a motherfucking Grammy, you know what I'm saying? Make some more. You know what I mean? Don't about that right there.

[Young Chris]

We took our moms to the Grammys, you know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

I ain't gonna lie. I was a little salt about that. I was hating on the low, you know what I'm saying? Had the envelope and baseline. I was like, hold on. I ain't get one of those envelopes.

[Young Chris]

That was different.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was a vibe, man.

[Young Chris]

Different feeling, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

What's up with my bro Nef, man?

[Young Chris]

You know, he out there. I just seen him the other day at the tailgate party, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word, Word. Yeah. Y playing. Yo, my G men looking bad. They looking like the Connecticut Giants right now, man. Like, niggas is looking bad out there, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna give respect when respect $.

[Young Chris]

Everybody. But, you know, yeah, the Eagles is.

[Memphis Bleak]

Putting in that work right now. I'm gonna let y' all. My wife from Philly. So I gotta. I gotta somewhat keep it smooth. I gotta keep it smooth, see? You know what I'm saying? But, yo, a lot of people. I know, but the people don't know. They wanna know what was it like making the song Tough Love about Nef? Like, what was y' all going through at that moment? You know what I mean? I was there. I was in the studio when you made the record, you know what I'm saying? So people don't know.

[Young Chris]

What's crazy about it was. Cause, you know, I started rapping when I met Nef. He was already rapping, doing his thing. And I kind of like start taking it more serious than Buck, Even with the Hot 97, you see, you know. But Buck didn't come.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Yep. Yo, he right. I ain't never noticed that. That Buck wasn't there.

[Young Chris]

I remember, like, yesterday, them N on the couch shout out Buck, but I remember smoking the fatwood, eating cheese curls, you know?

[Memphis Bleak]

I mean, I'm like, yo, the car.

[Young Chris]

Outside, you know what I mean? And he ain't go. But, yeah, man, just. Just. I started taking it more serious than him. And I was in the stool a lot more than, you know, we were still one foot in, one foot out. And Buck like to play that block a lot. And that was pretty much what it was about. Like, we here now, bigger than that block.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. That's right.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Young Chris]

So I just, you know, shout out Will Yahogan.

[Memphis Bleak]

I've been out there on Will Yah with my gu. Don't know. Yo, man, Philly, y' all got some of the smallest streets. Don't bring the Suburbans through. You have to park on both sides of the street.

[Young Chris]

You heard?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I'm trying. Yo. And y' all got the major night. Yo, these don't know they got they block on Smash, man. When you're hogging like, they got all.

[Young Chris]

Crib, you know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Blizzard up, big dude, nice town, holding it down, you know what I'm saying?

[Young Chris]

Never left for that. Even at the hype, man, we always show love and do for the community. So it's always genuine love there. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, man.

[Young Chris]

Always don't feel like home.

[Memphis Bleak]

One question they asked, and I was like, damn, that's a good one. I'm like, fuck, I never even thought about this. They like, yo, Gun, how did C feel? Which record would you have wanted to put a verse on? You, me, him and her, or just Fire?

[Young Chris]

Damn. You, me, him and her probably would say. Cause I'm jumping right in on the Dynasty shit. You remember I talked on the Dynasty album?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

1900 Hustler.

[Memphis Bleak]

Remember I was Freeway. Freeway.

[Young Chris]

First time getting on the job.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep.

[Young Chris]

I remember Jay was like. He told me what to say and everything.

[Memphis Bleak]

He was like, damn, Blake, you little bro. Me? How you gonna say. Hold on. Young.

[Young Chris]

Told me, like, go in there, say that. I would have said like, yo, these niggas playing with my advanced money, you know?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I remember all that, man.

[Young Chris]

That was my first grade, too. But you, me, him and her, I had a dance store. Now you're gonna light that up, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I always say, out of. Out of all the state property, me.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Beans is always gonna be up there because he was the first one.

[Young Chris]

Nah, that's a fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

Between you and Freeway, man, I ain't gonna front. Y' all was, like, the most competition for me in the studio. Yes, they hear y' all.

[Young Chris]

That's love. That's good to hear. Because like I said, these think they is all y' all was the big bro. So I got, you know what I mean, drop my shit at. Sometimes I had to wait till y' all left baseline so I can record.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, y' all was the night owls, y' all. That have guru in there strapped, man, sleeping.

[Young Chris]

Literally, literally sleeping in the stool. You know what I'm saying? Mac and free them used to shoot right back. And I think about it now, they was at that age. They hot, you know what I'm saying? This popping, you know, Philly only an hour away. They driving down after they done, they. I'm sleeping in baseline. One time, ho came, woke me up. She throw your bikes four or five in the morning. I'm like, man, left me. I'm like, you know. I mean, they went back to Philly. Yo, I get up. Where I get up. Shout out, T.T. i ain't seen T.T.

[Memphis Bleak]

In.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, that's my bro. I just.

[Young Chris]

But me, him. TT Was at the store. I remember Us leaving. Me, me and ho got in the car. Tt trying racing with his little ass. 300. You know that one thought exactly. You know what I'm saying? I just remember this day like yesterday, man. We go to the store, get some snacks and go in the crib. I go downstairs, pop popcorn concession. This at the little.

[Memphis Bleak]

The Loft joint, even in Fort Lee. Y. Yeah, he had the movie theater.

[Young Chris]

Ones tall as this wall lined up, right? So he like, yeah, you go downstairs whenever you ready, you know, lay down, give me a remote this size. I'm chilling. I'm like, all right, Go downstairs, come get me in the morning. Like, yo, we out wake up. We leaving another. Another five with the driver. Take me to the office. Yo, get him right. Throw some Rockaway on me. Next thing you know, I'm at motherfucking mtv.

[Memphis Bleak]

Joe.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. That day he doing mtv. And next time I seen Free and Beans, that's where they at. They had to do what we doing. Shit. Rock the.

[Memphis Bleak]

So some thought they left me at baseline. Nah, I went, ho.

[Young Chris]

I ain't go front.

[Memphis Bleak]

The crib in Fort Lee was different, was lit. That had the telescopes on the balcony directly to the bridge, man.

[Young Chris]

I was at one of the big shows, too. He had the telescopes, too. That must have been a thing right there.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was. They was on their telescope back in the day. They wanted to look in the city without being in the city. That was on some. Yo.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, that was different.

[Memphis Bleak]

A lot of people want to know, like, why you don't release more music. I know you just shot a video with Dave east recently.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? So I've been seeing you work, you know.

[Young Chris]

Right, right. That's what I was gonna say.

[Memphis Bleak]

They don't know how.

[Young Chris]

Actually, I have been working even from back. I'll go back to, like, Politically Incorrect with DJ Mc Boogie and tapes like that. Or I did a whole network series.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, yes.

[Young Chris]

Five networks.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I was on one of them. Network three.

[Young Chris]

She was on a few.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Young Chris]

I made network pretty bad, and I did that. I did. So I've definitely been working. It's just the shit's changed now. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Definitely.

[Young Chris]

A lot of my shit ain't getting heard without them. When you don't got a machine, it's kind of different. It's tougher to get the records out.

[Memphis Bleak]

It is what it is, though. And they ain't tell us back in the day, see, they cheated us, man.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

They ain't tell us. You need that. You need that. Digital guy. Now, that age change, so it's like, we gotta change. Street guy, the radio guy is now the digital guy. Who in a playlist is now.

[Young Chris]

You know, we come from street teams and really had to.

[Memphis Bleak]

They're hollering at the DJ, CDs and shit like that.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Disrespect to radio, but you got to really think, man. These kids don't even drive. So when they listen to the radio.

[Young Chris]

How about that?

[Memphis Bleak]

You feel me? So, yeah, it's all about that digital.

[Young Chris]

Everything is right here. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. That phone is the most powerful thing, man.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, and I understand. I actually just dropped the project beginning of year, like around March. No expectations, no disappointments.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what they was asking me to. When there's no expectations coming out.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, that's out, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's out now. That's right. Title itunes. Make sure y' all go check that out. You already know Gunna. You don't get called gunna for none.

[Young Chris]

That's Top Gun, you know, man, I agree, though, that I gotta be more consistent. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Consistency is key.

[Young Chris]

That's why I need to be dealing with reality, though. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

How's the fan, man? You got a baby girl. You just told me.

[Young Chris]

She ain't.

[Memphis Bleak]

Never talking about. I know better. Exactly. She just was born.

[Young Chris]

How old. The record is baby A dub now. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's crazy, man. God bless, man. You just had another one.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, my son CJ, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

He's 37, man. Little Virgo, September 2nd.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, it's flying, boy.

[Young Chris]

Flying, right? What?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I had a memory I was thinking about, man, like, funny shit, man. Cause, you know we like to laugh up here, bro. This about you and Beef. Yo, my nigga, this is when Game shout out to Game, you know what I'm saying? He dissing me like a motherfucker.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

400 myth bleak. Dude, this out there. And I remember y' all was going to la, and I told y' all.

[Young Chris]

I'm about to tell you.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm like, yo, is this named Game for la? This coming at my neck. Y' all be careful when y' all get out there. All that. Don't be chilling with Watch your back, all that. So y' all was there, and I guess y' all chill with them. Took pictures. All that I remember. Y' all came home. We always just baseline. You like, yo, yo, game is cool. He mad cool, bleak. We was at the party with the vibing and all that. And like two days later the came with this. Yo, your gun. I mop them up in Cali like. And I'm looking at like damn, welcome to the dis.

[Young Chris]

Wow. Y. I got caught up in your with that one. But you know it's all good.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm rocking rocking. Cuz I never came from.

[Young Chris]

But I knew when we was all at the radio together, me you whole remember was all up there and what.

[Memphis Bleak]

We do we ain't. We said something.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. I think it was the. When he did the Angie twisting your little fingers. I was. He was doing on a freestyle. He felt some kind of way about that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

But he spoke on that and that's when he. You know what I'm saying? Like on some. You know they. They winning. Guilty about association.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you know I was right.

[Young Chris]

I was right back. Gang salute my.

[Memphis Bleak]

But I'm bombing right back. Have mad records. But that one thing, you give up the game, boy that will throw a shot at the Pope.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

If the pope pull up that you heard.

[Young Chris]

I seen my right the other day somewhere, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, shout out. Yeah, definitely a cool man. But he competitive like a man that don't play. He feel like anybody.

[Young Chris]

Anybody can get it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes. And I respect that guy. Respect anybody can get it because that's how we came up, man. So it's so for sure. And then there's another. Another let's go back rock stories, man. You know, I mean tour life before the babies, before all that shit.

[Young Chris]

I was a baby, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

See, I was thinking. Cause you know I'm like damn. Gunna coming up here. We gotta talk about some stories, man.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you remember the shorty. Yeah. Earring.

[Young Chris]

Oh my God.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's one of my craziest choices. Yo. My G finessed it out my head, bro.

[Young Chris]

While I'm hitting her. Yo, she kisses all that type of shit, bro. To suck the earring out my ear, right.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, so. So gun come out the like, yo, looking for my. I think shorty caught my earring. So we like nah, shorty can't leave. We took the bat.

[Young Chris]

From that. That it was you and Shut that came in going crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

We should the. We took the mattresses off everything couldn't find.

[Young Chris]

She said, yo ma, open your mouth. That made her open her mouth. She had to drink. She swallowed it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

I'm saying I couldn't do nothing about it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, yo, put her in the bathroom. Shout out like, put in the bathroom. We Gonna wait till she take a she not airing out. So we. We, you know, we in the room blowing it down like it. Shorty go take that that life. Let me go see what's going on. We go open the door. Shorty was gone.

[Young Chris]

Gone, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

She jumped out the window, yo. Got me gone, like, jump out the window.

[Young Chris]

And I'm like, open your mouth, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Shout that. Shout out, my bro. Yo, that was one of the craziest days, man. Crazy, man.

[Young Chris]

Especially mine was hot. I was the beer for the the of rest of the tour, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, that one was a good one, my ugly bro. Yo, and another question somebody asked me to ask you for sure. They was like, not to bring on duh moments. Like I said, we make light of all these situations because we all family now.

[Young Chris]

Absolutely.

[Memphis Bleak]

But how you felt when we not even gonna go to that one. Let's go to this one.

[Young Chris]

Okay.

[Memphis Bleak]

My nigga, I forgot. I gotta give you your motherfucking props, yg, because on Drink Champs, I said about my niggas playing both sides. You never did that.

[Young Chris]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You wasn't in that kitchen rhyming with niggas either.

[Young Chris]

Nah, nah, I don't do that.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm gonna wait till I interview them to bring up who was in that kitchen. When was in that kitchen freestyling.

[Young Chris]

That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

You wasn't there. I respect that. I listened to niggas albums. Gun wasn't on those. I always. I'm like, damn, I gotta tell C, man. You wasn't.

[Young Chris]

Stand down, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

There's a couple niggas. They was like. They was in that kitchen. Loose lips told, yo, don't go back to that kitchen.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

We had a meeting. A had me. He was like, yo, I wouldn't even say what kitchen?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

Somebody do another dynasty. Yeah, I'm gonna make. You know, I'm saying we're gonna make. We're just gonna go double trip without.

[Memphis Bleak]

We gonna do our thing.

[Young Chris]

Back in position. Went back to the kitchen. I'll be one of myself. Did I get caught up in that?

[Memphis Bleak]

We had our last shot. I ain't gonna lie hoving them set us up, though. Cause they gave us our last shot with their first shot. Remember, he had just moved on to death jail.

[Young Chris]

That was crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

And they put us both in the double battle shot and shot us again. Brothers from another damn, yo, they put us in the double barrel, word up. Shot us out there together. Had us on the promo tour struggling. Word. We was out there bugging my ass. They set us up.

[Young Chris]

I Remember me when he left fj?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, get me out of here, bro. They really ain't gonna with me now. Straight up, they set us up, but let's go back. I had to laugh at that one because that was a funny one because, see, you stand. You stood your ground with niggas.

[Young Chris]

I had to, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

But yo, how you felt when. When Bings was going at the big homies, like. Yeah, I know me. I remember watching all the. I forgot street dvd, you know them, the homies from Brooklyn shout out the homie Mrec and all of them. You know what I mean?

[Young Chris]

Right?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's they vibe. They do that so I don't knock them for interviewing who want to on us and do whatever they do. That's perfect to me.

[Young Chris]

Right?

[Memphis Bleak]

But Bean's interview kind of like had me. So I want to know how you feel.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, I mean, you know, it fucked everybody up because we really lock familiar. And when we say that, we mean that we wasn't just throwing that word around. Really Family.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Young Chris]

So I say, you know, I seen my big brothers fight before, but it's different seeing big bros fight in front of the world. You know what I'm saying? I fight always different in front of somebody else. Definitely by themselves. They gonna hatch the put it behind you.

[Memphis Bleak]

Somebody there like, you got cheerleaders.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, it's just. It's just different. So, you know, I. Of course I ain't like it. You know what I mean? I was just praying that you know what I'm saying, could get it, get it together.

[Memphis Bleak]

But, yeah, I'm glad we passed that. Shout out my C. That's my brother.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I see? Don't know see. Used to be the security guard.

[Young Chris]

I used to be drawn, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, we used to add his shows, man. Seek to be the security. Like, yo, we gotta get out of here.

[Young Chris]

These man. One show, one show. He took the gun off my man waist that was with us. We out of Queens on my birthday. That's what we was going through with Nas and all that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Young Chris]

Start throwing. We start throwing the mic in the crowd. DK at the joint. Mac grabbed the turnover. He's like, no, no, no. Cause I think his joint was registered.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was where he let that go off like, hell no. Yeah, Mac was on some, man. I gotta have the bros up here, man. That's crazy. Yo, let me ask you though, this a question off mine. I want to know, because they asked me. So I want to know your opinion. Who is the best producer to work with on Rockefeller.

[Young Chris]

Mine's for me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Who, like.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, your opinion for me, you know, for me, you know, mine was Chad West.

[Memphis Bleak]

Chad west on track.

[Young Chris]

That's who I. You know, that's who I cool with.

[Memphis Bleak]

Chad be on some.

[Young Chris]

All the body work. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

He never sent us a pack. That was. He only. So I can't even pick Chad. I only gotta be if I was with you.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. But aside from. Yo, Chad, man, that's a strong joint, man. But, you know, Friday nights with just Blaze, and you know what I mean, there's some. Man, I would say. I would say just for sure, you know, I mean, shout out to Gabe. We got some great records.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Young Chris]

We missed a few good records. But just. I would say just at that time.

[Memphis Bleak]

Just was in the field with us, man. Just would be out there playing 2k live or some shit. Space invader, some crazy gadgets. Yeah. Come back in the room and give you some heat and go back to Zelda. Yo, this playing Zelda. Hey, he just did. How the. He did that.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, let that play Zelda.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, exactly. Yo.

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[Young Chris]

I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of.

[Memphis Bleak]

My voice is given to me by God, and I love it.

[Joseph Reeves]

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[Young Chris]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Is a safe space. As someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shelves.

[Joseph Reeves]

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[Memphis Bleak]

And then my thing, another question I would want to ask, like, not. I don't. Not me included. I'm out of this. I'm not here. Out of the whole state property. Who would you say was your favorite artist to work with? Like, make songs with? Cause me, I would say my opinion. I love all y' all, but Petey Crack was the fastest. You said Petey Crack, a record that was coming back like that.

[Young Chris]

Petey definitely Definitely, definitely one of my top out of that when it comes to that. I just talked to Crack about doing some records. But yeah, you already know me and E is a group, so I'll sign it out, you know.

[Memphis Bleak]

Okay.

[Young Chris]

Tell each other. I get a lot of, you know, the flows and yeah. Crack from my boy, so.

[Memphis Bleak]

Don't know. We probably all stole a piece of crack. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Young Chris]

I took small, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up, everybody.

[Young Chris]

Yo, damn, you know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Talking about crack, talking about the home. What's up with my Ping Ping out there in the construction world, man. Shout out my Jeep. My brother P, man, you know what I mean?

[Young Chris]

It's crazy. I just told him I'm coming out here with you.

[Memphis Bleak]

No way.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, I talked to him yesterday on the text email.

[Memphis Bleak]

He was one of the first. Besides, Bean showed me how to fly with a strap before 9 11. Fly with that strap, they could told you how to break it down.

[Young Chris]

Everything.

[Memphis Bleak]

Listen, put it back together when you land, baby.

[Young Chris]

Go nowhere without it, man. Word. We was in so much, it's like we had to ride like that. I would never. The Cloud would never ride in New York right now.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell no.

[Young Chris]

It was.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, we done left guns on tour buses, see. Remember that? Leave tour like, yo, who got the fifth? Yeah, it was like nobody grabbed it. Crazy. They're still on the bus.

[Young Chris]

Yo, Lee caught a case on the red carpet, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you ain't lying. Yo.

[Young Chris]

57 Bulldog. How the was gonna be when we hop out?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, hop out.

[Young Chris]

Ain't no getting back in the car. You know the cars drop you off.

[Memphis Bleak]

And keep it point. He like dropped the joint. I forgot. Nef dropped the joint on the red carpet.

[Young Chris]

That's the first time I ever seen. Yo, he never had to go to court for that joint, Biggs, you know, pay that. But I got that out. And I remember Jay called.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was that.

[Young Chris]

That was early know Shout Out. Wayneo, you know, he's.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was Early Shout out way.

[Young Chris]

Jay called Wayne. He called to the studio and, and, and when we got. He told way no. So. Yo, don't ever in your life let that man get in trouble or catch another charge of that shit, man. He could be the reason your mother ain't working again, like, you know what I'm saying? I remember that shit like yesterday. Yeah, yeah, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Real shit, man. God damn, man. Damn, I forgot about Nef Call the motherfucking charge on the Red Harper, nigga. Damn. Nef, you gotta come talk to me, baby. Gotta come talk to me. Definitely. Wow. Gotta come talk to Me, baby.

[Young Chris]

That was wild. My.

[Memphis Bleak]

I know you wasn't on the Hard Knock Life with us, man. Nah, you was on the Liquid Sprite tour with us. Rock the Mic tour. Yo, we was out with Banks and all of them, man. Shout out to you, man. We have fun on that. Talk them got the buses shot up in Buffalo, remember?

[Young Chris]

Yeah, that in the parking lot.

[Memphis Bleak]

Is that the major shootout? The parking lot. Buffalo, Yo. Damn bucket, yo.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. Wartime was different.

[Memphis Bleak]

He was outside, man. But tell me, what's some of your favorite tour stories that you would think like, you know what I mean?

[Young Chris]

No one made my earring in Swallow.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell, no.

[Young Chris]

We was in. We was on the West Coast. We was in the Bay Area, and this went. Can't Stop was new. Can't Stop, Won't Stop was new. And we did the Bay Area, man. Shout out. Wayne. I love. That's my. That's another. Anytime I sent Wayne a record, I got that back in less than 24 hours. Right back. And you know, he murdered it. But, yeah, I see. I remember seeing Wayne. They went. They went berserk, man. They lost it when that came on because. Cause that was one of our biggest markets for that record. Big Vaughn from kmel.

[Memphis Bleak]

Kmel. Shout out. Kmel. It's crazy.

[Young Chris]

I remember seeing Wayne crowd word for word with that shit, man. And after we was done the show, and HOV was asking like, how the fuck how'd that feel, nigga? Cause it seemed like the momentum, that shit was just different, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, Can't Stop, Won't stop, Change.

[Young Chris]

I remember changed everything, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

I remember when y' all niggas was just playing with the hook.

[Young Chris]

No.

[Memphis Bleak]

Just saying the hook in the studio.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Just before. It was no beat beat.

[Young Chris]

Just around with it. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Just saying the hook.

[Young Chris]

I just had. Got it from. What's his name? Ramsey.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. You know, it was no beat. Y' all just was saying the hook. And then I remember coming back to the studio the next day, and I heard the joint, and I'm like, God.

[Young Chris]

Damn, these done wear ham on these shoes and floors. I ain't think you know what I mean.

[Memphis Bleak]

That shit.

[Young Chris]

The glory of having fun in that.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was baseline, man. Baseline. And y' all took advantage of. I ain't gonna lie, man. Y' all was smart start. Because me and stayed in there.

[Young Chris]

I never let. We never left the stew, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

Me and Beans blew the budget.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

In Miami at Circle House. And y' all at Freeway took advantage. That's how y' all did y' all albums.

[Young Chris]

That's how My whole mic came. We was locked in.

[Memphis Bleak]

Had no better love. All that came from Circle. Only thing me and Beans came back with was hypnotic.

[Young Chris]

That was crazy. Because we was out there for y' all album.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep. We do the album.

[Young Chris]

We ended up doing State props.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Yeah. I ended up doing the State Property album. Kind of sick. I didn't get a verse on that album. One or two. That's crazy.

[Young Chris]

Crazy than me. Yeah. I was talking about the movie yesterday. Got my part two.

[Memphis Bleak]

Kill my movie, then don't even call me to the studio. Why? We killed Blizz. What type of was that?

[Young Chris]

That's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

And that just made me.

[Young Chris]

They had me getting down on that one. So I ain't really. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

And dead ass. I just made a State Property playlist. Just because I'm like, damn, damn. You know what I mean? Let me with my niggas.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's no Blizzle.

[Young Chris]

Niggas left Blizzle out.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Niggas ain't ready. I think Beans. That was Beans. Beans did that. That was Beans decision.

[Young Chris]

That was crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm not gonna do that to y' all.

[Young Chris]

Killed my.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, they killed me off in the movie, yo. Damn. How you felt, though? That was both our first time acting. Yeah, you felt doing State Property, bro.

[Young Chris]

Like I said, it was actually fun. Cause it ain't like no, no, no script. I go about la, learn class. I'm with my.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

We was bugging every day, smoking. Yo, my G. Was we not tear Patterson up.

[Young Chris]

Improv' n. Was we not.

[Memphis Bleak]

What was we not tearing Patterson up?

[Young Chris]

Jersey gonna owe us nothing, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, man, we was. Oh, my God. Nothing.

[Young Chris]

You hear me?

[Memphis Bleak]

Listen, my wife, man. God bless you for doing this.

[Young Chris]

Real.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause like I said on Drink Champs, I can't unmarry myself.

[Young Chris]

You see. Can't stop.

[Memphis Bleak]

Won't stop.

[Young Chris]

We shot that video at the All Girls. It was the All Girls school. We shot that shit in Paris.

[Memphis Bleak]

Patterson. Yo, Patterson was, man. We was in Patterson. Hard body. Don't know. Then a whole movie of State Property was shot in Patterson.

[Young Chris]

That's a fact. Word. That's a fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

We was out there doing our thing, man. Shout out Patterson and every little pretty girl I ever met in Patterson shout you out. Boo. Boo. Boo boo.

[Young Chris]

Hey. Hey, baby.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hey. My mom. Straight up.

[Young Chris]

Yo, David, you see why? You see why I'm off the hook?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yo, we had some times. We was out there, man. That's.

[Young Chris]

Wonder why I'M so dangerous.

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me go back, man. Cause a couple people who have some questions for you gunna. They like, yo, I want to know.

[Young Chris]

You want to know what the boy doing, man?

[Memphis Bleak]

They said, when is the tape dropping with. Oh, that's Rider.

[Young Chris]

Oh, damn, that's a good one. I love L. Shout out Ryder, man. That's my boy. That's one of my favorite up and coming from Philly right now.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, Philly got some spitters. I always told that's one thing. Yeah, don't go to Philly thinking these can't fight. All these go to the gym in boxing school since they growing up. And bring your rhymes. You better bring your best fighting moves and your best verses. You want to go to Philly? Like I always say, that one of.

[Young Chris]

The young that give me that feel, man. Yeah, we just been getting it in. We've been locking in, doing little freestyles back and forth, testing the waters. But yeah, they won it. They won it, Ryder. So you know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, rather than, let's go, man.

[Young Chris]

Let's get it, baby.

[Memphis Bleak]

Get it out, baby. What y' all need the distro deal. I get this.

[Young Chris]

We need that distro deal, baby.

[Memphis Bleak]

I did distros too. I told you.

[Young Chris]

Hey, legal gang. Here we have it. Ride and talk to me. Shout out my Sean Sloan ass. Another kid from South Central country, he be in Philly with my boy. I got. I got a wreck. I got a tape with him too. Yeah, about six joint.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, you've been smoking, man. I seen you at Dave east down there. He's taking my spot. I'm lending it out right now.

[Young Chris]

Pablo, what up?

[Memphis Bleak]

I just meant shout out Dave Master homie too.

[Young Chris]

We just did three records in New York the other night, too, yo, and.

[Memphis Bleak]

A lot of people don't know, before the Rockefeller breakup, all that before, you know, when Jay took Def Jam, before everything went down, See, you had an album you was working on.

[Young Chris]

I had an album, man. Solo project, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

You had a bunch of heat, bunch of crazy that I was excited.

[Young Chris]

Like good records, man. I remember, yo, I had the coast to coast record with Bobby Valentino. I remember me, yo, man, I remember Jay was so excited about the record. Was walking around that bitch, he was like, what we gonna do for the vid? And I remember Mac, Mac came home. I remember Mac telling me, like, yo, I told you got better jones than that. You know what I'm saying? Whatever. You know what I'm saying? And yeah, next thing, filling the air.

[Memphis Bleak]

Came out, man, Y chilling in the air, came out. That's real dead ass as far as I can remember.

[Young Chris]

Like, why I never didn't. You know what I'm saying? We was on it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Wanted Beans match his book while I was. Yo, y' all don't know, man. Beans is a foul. I'm married. My wife know I love her. I can tell all these stories, but Beans is a foul when it comes down to the joints. Mac crazy when Beans trying to snipe something. He don't care if you get sniped in the process of it.

[Young Chris]

What we used to call it 211. Yeah, get 211.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, he 211 me. He 211 me in the process of killing. Me, too.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm trying to get something new. He bring a old joint with a new joint, and, like. And I'm like, damn, son, why you do that to me? And he like, nah, she just followed me. What you mean she just followed you? You couldn't tell her, turn around, go back? So she followed you in the same van used to be reckless, man, with the. Yo, yo, listen. You ain't. You ain't gonna. I mean, you and ne2, y' all got 12 on me. Cuz, I had a joint in Virginia that I liked.

[Young Chris]

I liked her.

[Memphis Bleak]

I thought I liked her. You know, I was like, I like you. You know what I'm saying? I like you. And then I come back, she, you and Nef both like this with her. Yeah. So I'm like, yo, what's up, shorty?

[Young Chris]

Go.

[Memphis Bleak]

She was like, yeah, you know, I gave them something. I thought y' all was. Was all cool.

[Young Chris]

It.

[Memphis Bleak]

We all cool. These my brothers. We all cool. I don't like you no more. We like you. That's why.

[Young Chris]

Why niggas so cold, man?

[Memphis Bleak]

When you see.

[Young Chris]

Yo, Tor, life was different with no feelings, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

You hear me?

[Young Chris]

Straight up.

[Memphis Bleak]

But, yo, I remember us being in Philly, man, and this the thing. Like, you know, a lot of people. Lot of people don't know. They think just because I grew up with Jay, my relationship with Jay, that when everything was over that I didn't with and I chose this side. And I remember us being in Philly at Chad West Studio. This one, we did the joint for the Network five or the network three. One of them. One of them we had did. And I remember us being in the studio talking about the breakup and all that. Like, damn, what gonna do what this and all that. None of us. Us. None of us had no clue or where we was going.

[Young Chris]

Right.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm. Man, my. You pulled the OG shot. What kind of shot is that?

[Young Chris]

What the.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, like hold on my. I want to shoot. I don't want to get blown up. I want to shoot while they go. I don't want to uniball myself. It went kind of hard. This was about to be rock watery, not rock solid. Baby. Let's go shout out to Toy Stories and my brother C man. One time. One time. But I remember us trying to figure out what our next play was, what we was gonna do. Niggas like, damn the music big hom. And here we are. Here we are 15 years later, 20 years later. Damn. And is still here doing it. Blessed.

[Young Chris]

Yes.

[Memphis Bleak]

And we, you know, we had no.

[Young Chris]

Idea free was saying that, man. We was blessed.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? We had no idea.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying? Still utilize this.

[Memphis Bleak]

And yes.

[Young Chris]

You know, the opportunity gave us is a lifetime, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

We still.

[Young Chris]

I still do weddings. I took. I still do better love. No better love, nigga. I think I might wife her. You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, man. And that's a blessing. So, you know. So how you feel that even after everything and the way shit went that we still here, man? Like, you know, how you even feel like to even tell the people, like, where you at mentally, what you working on? What you got going? What's next?

[Young Chris]

I felt great, bro. I feel like I want to change nothing because everything we went through made us who we are today. Regardless of how the shit look outside looking at. You know what I'm saying? I just got a different perspective on this now. Like I said, I got my son is definitely my motivation. He definitely gave me another spark, you know what I'm saying? And I've been active, man. It's just time for me to learn this new wave so I can get the music out there to the. That's asking when I'm gonna drop because I def. I'm always working. It's never time when I'm not working. I just gotta deliver this now. Well, just know new format. You say you got the plays for the distribution.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man. You know, warehouse we've been working. So I, I, I done found out a little bit of things that they never taught us as artists. Being in the in the other seat, I never knew what it took as us as artists. We just went to the studio and rapped and we gave Bobby Dash the record. We didn't know what it took. So when I I remember Structure record we were Just wrapping.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I remember when I got the information being in. In his seat, you know, when I signed Manolo and Cash shout out to Manolo Casanova, you know what I'm saying? And we putting out records and they like, yeah, 15 grand this record, 5 grand for that record, 10 grand for this record. And I'm like, God damn. That's how much records cost now. Like Bleak that done. Back in the day in Rockefeller, Hope used to spend a 20 to a 50 pack. Every record y' all drop. Damn. I had to call that like, yo, my hold on on you spent 20 to 50 grand on all my records, even the ones that didn't work. And he like, yeah.

[Young Chris]

And then think of the ones that we shot videos that should know better. Love like a buck and some change.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm saying. And I'm like. It made me grateful. Like, damn, my. You. You bet that on me?

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Thank you. Cause if I look back, I wouldn't have bet that on me. I'd have been like. Like that. We buying a building, you heard. What you think I'd have been doing that same. My mom was on, you better put the raps the away word. Like, so it made me appreciative. Like, damn. So saying that it. Dude, you know, niggas think the payola is to the dj. Like, you greasing the DJ pocket. You greasing this guy pocket. No, it takes money. You have to pay the guys that's gonna go to these DJs and tell.

[Young Chris]

Them everybody has to get paid.

[Memphis Bleak]

The guys that's gonna go, remember these guys that on these playlists, right? They regular everyday guys making regular salary.

[Young Chris]

That's right.

[Memphis Bleak]

So they gonna put you number one in the playlist, watch you blow up while they still just making 20 an hour. No. So now they the. You gonna have the gatekeepers you're gonna have to grease. They promote, have access to certain things that these need. Like, back in the day, ain't no Bobby Dash was sending out packs of that rockerwear that was like a. Like. Like. Like a ounce.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah. More than an ounce.

[Memphis Bleak]

A T shirt was like a zip. Oh, yeah. You send a. A box that was like a plate. Like, yeah, I got a plate. I got a plate. All that Rockefeller think you send a. Right now, get the whole rock kit.

[Young Chris]

Rock boxes, you feel me?

[Memphis Bleak]

So you got to think about what these in. Go get these. A Kubi outfit. You throw that on.

[Young Chris]

That's a fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

I bet these throw that on and that kiff H be like, he gonna Definitely. That's my everything he dropped. Even do a Christmas record. I'm playing straight up. So, you know, it's a little bit of perks. And one hand. I learned that from Vegas, man. Shout out my bro, Fred C. Out there in Vegas.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, Fred. What up?

[Memphis Bleak]

The movie ain't live, Ginger, man. You gotta. It's one hand wash the other, and it really moves on that way, way the higher you go in life. Like I told Nori, you know, I gotta get in the Watch Club. So first I gotta buy my wife.

[Young Chris]

A club, then I gotta go on.

[Memphis Bleak]

Vacation with him first. Yeah, so it's like other, you know what I'm saying? Before you get in the club, learn.

[Young Chris]

How to pronounce it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? So we gotta do like that first before you, you know, it's one hand wash the other. It's all good. Both wash the face, like they say, right? So you know, what's next for my bro, man. You know what I'm saying? It's always a pleasure. I want the people to know. I want you to know, first of all, yeah, this is your house. This is rock solid. You help build Rockefeller. And we always family. So anything you dropping, anytime you're doing anything right here, hit me first, send it to me. We, you know, we blast it out, let these people know what it is. What's next for you? What you got going?

[Young Chris]

I've been locked up, man. Man, speaking of rock solid man salute. Shout out guru man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, my man.

[Young Chris]

We got something sizzling right now. Yeah, I've been cooking. I've been cooking with big bro, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I talk to Goo every day, and he ain't tell me. He ain't tell me nothing.

[Young Chris]

Had to let it out here. It's on Goo.

[Memphis Bleak]

We gotta talk Goo.

[Young Chris]

This the first they hear it. Yeah, we said we weren't gonna say nothing, but, you know. You know what I mean, it's just. It's all love. Rock solid, it's rock team. But we got something sizzling. I. I'm. I'm super excited for that. Like you said, shout Out Ryder. We got a project.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Young Chris]

All that coming. Sloan, all the projects. I got Shout Out, Dave east, we got the six pack, yo. Yeah, we got a few videos out on that joint right now. You seen that joint?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man. As you talk, though, memories coming back. I remember I had the crib down there, my great adventure. And C was leaving New York, like, yo, I got this joint with me. Bleep she talking about she want to go home, but that your crib closer. Let me come through real quick. Kill and I' ma send a home real quick. I'm like, yo, pull up, yo. Don't know, man. Word my right there. Damn, man. I've been with yo, man.

[Young Chris]

Get it from these.

[Memphis Bleak]

I love all y' all, man. I want y' all to know, man. Ever thought anything was different in our team? We family. You my bro. Yeah, I love y' all for life, man. And like I said, this your house, my bro.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying, baby?

[Memphis Bleak]

My man.

[Joseph Reeves]

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[Young Chris]

I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice is given to me by God.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I love it.

[Joseph Reeves]

Books that validated our identity.

[Young Chris]

The library now for me is a.

[Memphis Bleak]

Safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off.

[Joseph Reeves]

Of shelves and how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Let me ask you this, my bro.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Outta everybody that be thinking they verse is ready, they this ready. Give me. It's a two part question. I want to know who would you want to battle in versus solo and who would you want to battle as the rap army, who you think we all could go up against?

[Young Chris]

Damn. Okay.

[Memphis Bleak]

And we ain't calling niggas out, so don't go make 400 videos, please. All right, stop. We cool.

[Young Chris]

I think a good one. First off, I'm gonna say this. I'll go against anybody. I'm gonna say that's a fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. You heard it here.

[Young Chris]

Smokey know me from the the hit records. Can't stop, won't stop no better love, but I really get busy.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying? I ain't tripping. Whoever. But from the. I would say from the outside looking in, from the world's perspective, what they would probably Think is a good one for me. Maybe. I would say like a. Like a pusher maybe, baby. You got the clip.

[Memphis Bleak]

I like that.

[Young Chris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

I like that one. That's a good one.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. Active.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. You know he gonna bring all the coke. All the coke. He bringing all the coke. All of it. You already coming with the slash.

[Young Chris]

Before.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. Push the fan, man. The clips. They. The fan, man. Like, don't ever. They don't want people getting twisted. We'll make 400 videos.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all love, man. It's all.

[Memphis Bleak]

But then as the rap, who you think?

[Young Chris]

As the rock. Damn. I don't see too many, man. You see, because at that time, it was only a few of us groups.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn. I would say you guys three parts, because even that state property.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, yeah. Rough Riders. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, but we gotta have the hologram for my X, though. You know what I'm saying? Or it won't be right. We gotta have X. God bless. You know, X was the. Was an animal different, man. And put pressure on us on that.

[Young Chris]

For a state property. I would say we should have did that joint against the locks instead of Dipset. Shout out.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a good one, Swiss. Holla at me, man. Y' all want to cancel it on my. We just announced, like, four bangers right now. Is wrong with y' all. We could read. We could read. Restart the engine. We can restart the engine. What y' all need, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Young Chris]

Yeah, cuz.

[Memphis Bleak]

State property vers. You know, I mean, kissing beans had history like.

[Young Chris]

Dog, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that. Yo, yo, hold on. You got me like, damn. That's a good one right there. Yeah. Cause them don't win.

[Young Chris]

Nobody else really. Spitting and getting active. Yeah, like, just.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Damn, man, that was a good one. See, you stopped me. That one said state.

[Young Chris]

You know, I love the locks, but it.

[Memphis Bleak]

But it only got a. It only could be three of y' all, though, cuz. It's only three of them.

[Young Chris]

Okay, so what?

[Memphis Bleak]

Three of state property. All right, cuz. It is a lot of y' all. Remember, you got old sparks.

[Young Chris]

You.

[Memphis Bleak]

You neef. You got free beans, Petey. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Young Chris]

Yup, it be me, Siegel and Petey.

[Memphis Bleak]

Mm, mm. You seagull and Petey. Mm.

[Young Chris]

Nah, for sure.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a good one right there, nigga.

[Young Chris]

Sure.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a good one. I wanna see that. Fuck. Fuck. The people wanna see that. I'm gonna Be in the crowd like. Like you said Lil Wayne was like. Yeah, what up my. You heard, let's go. Nah, that's a good one. See, damn me up with that one. My n. Real rat damn. Real rat damn.

[Young Chris]

I was looking at it like we belong up that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell, yeah, man. State property, man. I don't think.

[Young Chris]

Favorite version, too. I love that drink, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

I don't think the albums, the movies got the respect due. I don't think the album had the respect. Yes, cuz. I even told Freeway I had to call free and tell him. Yo, my G, some of your best verses was on these stink property out.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, like my.

[Memphis Bleak]

You was stepping Philadelphia.

[Young Chris]

Freeway was so classic, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

So classic.

[Young Chris]

That man is different.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, it's so classic. I told yo Cadence.

[Young Chris]

That's a different type of cadence. Yeah, I used to run out of stadium. I used to run out.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell yeah, man. We just did the show, man. Shout out my Freeway. Shout out Freeway all day, man. Doing the school thing, man. Be out there.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, he doing a lot of positive, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, man. The kidney drive.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, kidney drive. He got his kidney. He been moving forward, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man, that's a good blessing, man. But you me up with Ping, man.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

My niece, my dog, man. We got to get you up here, man. Baby. Nef, you gotta come holla at me.

[Young Chris]

Tell you about them cases.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. You can't just be booking shows for me, Nef, and disappearing with your cut.

[Young Chris]

Tell you about the case.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nef set me up, too. Last show. You seen that?

[Young Chris]

Yeah, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I like how you laugh, yo. Nef called me, yo. Bleep. Yo, I got a. He won't pay you to sign autographs for a couple. You know what. For a couple joints, right? So I was like, all right, cool. We knew it. How much he got? He ain't gonna put no number on it. But I know Neef took his cut. Cause the way he got the fuck out of there. He took a cut, he said he should have cut to me, too. Don't word out, nigga show. And I seen Fred B. Side of the world. Yo, bro, this nigga had at least everything. 15 of each album.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Then the Dynasty albums, posters, pictures you post on Instagram.

[Young Chris]

You like, hold up, my G. I said, yeah, where you at?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I'm down on South Street. What? Don't get back to that friend, nigga. Yo, so I definitely gotta get Nef up here. We gotta find out all this booking information Nef doing out here. Crazy. We gotta find out all this info because I ain't got my booking in my bio. I don't know what's going on.

[Young Chris]

Run that check.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, man. Yo, that's my man. And another thing I wanted to get. I wanted to ask you, me personally, you know? I mean, nobody asked me to ask you this, because I did. I took a play out of Nori playbook, you know? I mean, because he like. He like, Dean, Dean. What's the culture? Dean Smith, he like the old coach. I gotta take a play out his playbook, you know what I'm saying? Send the tweet out. I got Chris coming up. What questions y' all want to ask. So this ain't one of those questions, right? We gotta talk.

[Young Chris]

I see you got your.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man, we about to put some pressure out there, man.

[Young Chris]

Fire, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

My G. Appreciate you about to put.

[Young Chris]

I got picked up at the airport.

[Memphis Bleak]

With that shout out my bro Cheech. You know what I mean? Cheech out here running the beach, nigga.

[Young Chris]

You heard? Yeah, we outside on the beach tonight, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that's right, man. You know, Mr. Jones, Coco's booby trap.

[Young Chris]

Gotta do it while at the house. You know what I'm saying? We have been staying, too, huh?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah. Yeah. Yo, I hit, yo. That's another thing, yo. Certain things just don't change. Cause I'm like, yo, see, yo, you free for Tuesday to come to Miami. The nigga said, hell, yeah. I'm like, all right. I'mma got. I'mma book the flight. How long long you want to stay? Said how long I got? That's right. That's my like up. Leave me. I'm good. Good. He said, yeah.

[Young Chris]

Cause I gotta leave him.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm good. You know, Certain things don't change. I said. I said, yo, you probably got it. You probably got. He like, nah, you know, dog, I'm just in Miami, baby. I gotta go out. Say, yeah, then go hit Mr. Jones or Coco's tonight turn up, man, why not?

[Young Chris]

Not why?

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? Do what you do. Mama G, man, fucking love you, man. You know, bro, man, it's rock for life if you ever get Freddy, baby. That's why you here watching Rock Solid. Cause you already knew that, baby.

[Young Chris]

Rock solid, baby.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, shit, man. You know Dame Dash, man. That's my bro. Yeah, he always welcome here to come express his feelings.

[Young Chris]

Like I said, we gonna have recently him FaceTime. Salute. Dane, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Free set me up, though, love.

[Young Chris]

Dang.

[Memphis Bleak]

Free ain't tell me what's gonna be. Yo, hold on. Let's get to that hold on. Let's get to that freeway. Set me the up. Yo, listen, Free, call me. Yo, Bleak, you know, I'm doing out here with him. You know, I'm doing the school, Bleak. You know, they asked about you. Come through. Yeah, so I'm like, yo, Free, for the kids. Blizzle is all with it. So he like, yeah, I'm gonna send you the time. We gonna have a zoom with everybody, right? So I'm like, all right, send me the zoom link, whatever, right? I get on the zoom. You know, when you first get on the zoom, it's always you and, like, two other people before everybody get in the zoom. So I'm with two teachers like this. Yeah, I'm with, like, two teachers. They talking major fly, like. Yeah, with the school, Bleak, you could do this, you could do that. Come through, talk to the kids. You know, they would love this. Then all of a sudden, Dang came on. Yo, his face just popped up and I was like, yo, ain't tell me he was gonna be on here. So now I gotta keep it major. Like, I ain't want. I don't wanna say nothing crazy' cause, you know, we on there with all type of deans and principals and teachers from all over the country. So I'm looking in the Zoom camera at Freeway, though. But, you know, in the camera, they don't know who you looking at. But I'm looking at Free, like, as. I'm like. Hanori said, yo, you gotta look at your phone during the text. Free hit me as I'm looking. Yo, I forgot to tell you. Yeah, he seen it in your face. I said, yo, Free, what's up, Yo? So you know me. I'm like, dang, what up, my? How you doing? Yo, Bleak without kid, you good. I say, yo, Dang, we on the school, baby. Let's keep it going. Y arg, yo, yo, Nori always bring that up. Nori say y' all be acting like y' all was sleep that night, you know? Yeah, that's what Nor put us on the. Nor put me on the.

[Young Chris]

We in the back bathroom smoking.

[Memphis Bleak]

Almost got us kicked off.

[Young Chris]

Nor had me drinking that Pinot.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, my God, bro, was we wasted.

[Young Chris]

When we got to London.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, my Dang, yo, what? That show was crazy, dude. He argue like a day go at it. We always used to go at it.

[Young Chris]

Man on a jet. Rich problem, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, where yo on this zoom, right? So me and Dang, we chopping it up. I had to give Dame his flowers. At the end of the day, Dame is My bro, I love that. He the OG he saved my life. I had a bad contract that when Dame saw the contract that said you scientists that made the call, he knew the lawyer that was like, don't you ever play with my little bro.

[Young Chris]

So right.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, he saved my life. So it's a line of respect there that I would never cross with that. But just on the strength, on how hard he go at the team. It's like that. My.

[Young Chris]

What you want me to do? They understand him. He's at the Grammys. Yeah, Mom. He took his mom, too. When we seen Dane, he was crying, laughing like. You know how he's just laughing before he even spoke.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know, he understand that nigga. Yo, Dane, man. Yo, listen. They ain't put pressure on the whole rap freeway, though. You it. Oh. When I call that favor in you. Oh, yeah. Yo, that set me up with that school shit, man. But how you felt when Dame did Death of a Dynasty?

[Young Chris]

I hated it.

[Memphis Bleak]

You.

[Young Chris]

I love Dame, but I hated that. Like, I love. You know, I love Dame, but I just. You know, I ain't never watched the movie.

[Memphis Bleak]

Did they have the fake Chris in there? Cause they had the fake bleak in there. Had me acting like a major lemon drop, too. Yeah, like I was a major lemon drop. Like. Like. Ah. Nah. Damn. That's how I was. Damn. My Thought we was cool.

[Young Chris]

Oh, man. Yo, I hated that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. Death of a Danish Misty was bad, man. Yeah. Even the. Even the what was the album they dropped? The Rock army album or Rock Something they dropped with everybody. They got my face on the COVID Hell, no. They took a song off my album. But it's a couple songs that I wish I'd have been on there. Like the Rap army song with Kanye and all of y' all. I'm like, damn. Believe you bumped your head. Yeah, I bumped my head really hard on that one.

[Young Chris]

We gonna cook every time.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man, that's the thing.

[Young Chris]

Situation. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Don't know. We used to be in that studio running through. You get that room. It was locked in time. Couldn't get in there without spitting no acid. You had to spit some.

[Young Chris]

Or it was called every got their own separate crew.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, honey. Yo, but I remember, yo. My get low, man. Shout out Hbody bags, Gay Cali.

[Young Chris]

We seen G. The recently at the show.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep, yep. In Virginia. Yo, listen, you probably don't know, cuz I never said nothing but. Yo, y' all taking car service from Philly to New York.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Was major drama in Mary was Like, how could you? They got to take car service. We got to ride the train. What type of is this? I used to be like, these coming from Philly. You live to 10 minutes from baseline. You can literally ride a bike to Baseline. Them was like you and state property. Give me a grand.

[Young Chris]

Leaky stole. My man. Remember on the tour.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill.

[Young Chris]

Come over like, yo, my commit, she ain't move.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, he kicked the chick out the car. I ain't want to do that to my man Chad. Chad know we love him. Yo, listen, yo, don't get my publisher deal clip. Cause he be with my G. Don't tell them that Water chapel. Don't call the on me. Shout out, Ryan. Yeah, don't tell Ryan on me, Jazz, man. But, yo, my man Chic, man. Shout out, little Chic, man. This is my man.

[Young Chris]

You remember. You don't remember the pimps had to had the little chi in North Carolina.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that wasn't North Carolina. It was Dallas. It was. That was Dallas.

[Young Chris]

My.

[Memphis Bleak]

That was. Yo, listen, chill. Yo, chill.

[Young Chris]

One of the craziest joints, bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, that was the tour together. My. Yo, listen.

[Young Chris]

That was bad, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

First, let's start with the Chad west now, or we gonna skip Chad. Yeah. I don't want you up my deal, Ryan. I love y' all so. Chad chic. Sorry. He's still saying sorry. All right, I apologize for him. That's my bro. But, yo, listen, another story involving Sheik, my man Don DeMarco. You better fucking send Leaky at least a hundred dollars every month for just saving your life. Yo, we in Dallas crazy. And the girl said we leaving Houston. The girl like, where y' all got a show at the next day? We like Dallas. She said, oh, y' all niggas better be on point. Cause them Dallas boys love to fight. So we like, all right, cool. We good. We strapped up. We ain't trying to fight none of these niggas. We gonna do our show and go.

[Young Chris]

Back to the whole guns when we get the tag.

[Memphis Bleak]

So the gang members, the pimps and everything running around in Dallas going crazy. So we tell. Remember me? You and me standing downstairs like, yo, get your chick and go to the room. Don't come back out. Don't be running around nothing.

[Young Chris]

Go chill.

[Memphis Bleak]

For some reason, my dj, he ain't understand. He ain't listening to this part. And remember, I had to a room where the window you could see to the lobby. It was indoor, cuz. Remember? Had the indoor. Yes, cuz I. I didn't Even go downstairs. I was just looking out the room and I see flower pots being tossed, chairs being tossed, everything. So I'm telling the girl. I'm like, damn, whoever downstairs get they ass with.

[Young Chris]

Whole time it's your dj.

[Memphis Bleak]

Whole time it's my dj. So listen, I had no clue. So listen, this. I'm sitting there chilling, right? I get a knock at the door. I open the door, this is leaking like a. He like. I'm like, yo, what happened? No, his only words was, they got me, my G. But see, you got it late.

[Young Chris]

Cause you was upstairs. You what's whiz downstairs? You say he owe Leaky.

[Memphis Bleak]

Dude was on the bus. Leaky was on the bus.

[Young Chris]

So put the trash back over the mic stand.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, what happened out there?

[Young Chris]

Act like it was the ballistic joint.

[Memphis Bleak]

So what happened? That's the only reason they pulled up? Yep. Cause what happened is the was with some. Some hoes, some prostitutes, some hookers or whatever. So he must have fucked the bitches and not pay. And they called they pimps. So the pimps was out there giving him that work in front of the hotel. So just so happened. So just so happened, my man Chic was on the tour bus looking like, damn, who getting that work? And realize it's DeMarco. So he run off the bus with him acting like it's the shotgun these pull off, going crazy. So I wasn't there for none of that. I just see the after effect where this locked on your door. And that nigga, they got me, my G. Yo, I laughed so hard. We had to do Rap City the next day. That had the tone Lope shades on me. Jim Shisty before the Shisty, Yo, I was like, yo, what the. Yo, I love you, dog. Demarco. My. But that story going down in history, yo, I forgot about that. Dallas, they want niggas. They like the fight out there. He got the message live and direct.

[Young Chris]

It was crazy.

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[Memphis Bleak]

Hello, Queer.

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[Young Chris]

I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of.

[Memphis Bleak]

My voice is given to me by God, and I love it.

[Joseph Reeves]

Books that validated our identity.

[Memphis Bleak]

The library, not now for me, is a safe space. As someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off of shelves.

[Joseph Reeves]

And how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, they work, my man. Damn.

[Young Chris]

See on the boats when got booked in Puerto Rico.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, man. Remember when y' all did the. That was when they used to do the Rockefeller retreat. Yeah, I remember. I left because they had dip. Said they're mad deep. And I was pissed. I was like, I'm getting the out of here. These trying to set me up. I'm out Them freaky Zeky Jimmy cam. All the in the pool with the. I'm by myself. I'm looking off the balcony. These trying to set me up in Puerto Rico. I booked that flag. I the up out of there.

[Young Chris]

You heard?

[Memphis Bleak]

You crazy. So, yeah, now when I think about it, no more rock retreats for bleak.

[Young Chris]

This thing is crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up. They had the whole dipset in Puerto Rico. I was like, damn. On some. Not one Brooklyn, just me. Oh, my God, man. Yo, you a funny for that one, man. That said, yo, Leaky. Leaky was the funniest on the road, man. Yo, it's a story. Even with Santana and Petey. Crack with Leaky.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, at the. At the photo shoot, what we was doing. For what photo shoot we was doing. We was doing it in Brooklyn.

[Young Chris]

Was. It was. It wasn't. It was something we was doing all together.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, it was a rock joint because it was Santana.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, they all was there out.

[Memphis Bleak]

All of us was there. And Santana asked Petey, yo, who that? And Leaky heard him, and Petey must have said, oh, that's just bleak, man. Yeah, I don't know why he said that, because Leaky was like, oh, I'm just bleak, man. Oh, I just. That with Craig, you know, the I am Marcy you got playing with. Yo, them was in there like, bleed tell your man chill. I think it was like, yeah, it was like, bleep. Tell me Chill. Bleed gonna tell me kill all y' all. Yo. Used to say myself, yo, yo, and that's. That's my. That's my bro, man. I went to school with Leaky. That's Tata, brother.

[Young Chris]

But, yo, murder too, man.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I used to get on, yo. Tata used to on me. You idiot. You with this stupid ass dick all the time.

[Young Chris]

Uhhuh. No they definitely used to tell us, don't hang with Leaky on the road.

[Memphis Bleak]

On the tour. On the tour, definitely. We used to start, yo, bro, even J brother, like, everybody got a brother that they like. Yo, you better stay the away from my brother. Don't hang with that even ho brother, E. I remember we on tour with.

[Young Chris]

E N. Crashed motherfucking Go Karts on tour. All kinds of chill.

[Memphis Bleak]

Remember in. In Bermuda. My. Oh, yo my, yo, listen.

[Young Chris]

Was it no guns out there? Remember? That was the first we like.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo my. We go to Brutal. This was their first time on the road with us.

[Young Chris]

Remember? Beans was sick us riding the bikes and all that. Remember?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, we. These was in the room. So me and my man Bi and us telling them, yo, come outside, man. Come on. Come with us. Yes. Yo, so we riding the scooters with these wilding in Bermuda.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, that's all I got lost on the bike.

[Memphis Bleak]

He always remember yo Ne got lost on the bike before and we had to ride around looking for D. 4 to 4 on the. On the bikes in Bermuda, man. Word. I never forget me. You Freeway. Bi.

[Young Chris]

Leaky.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, Leaky wasn't there there because his passport was always up. He was always on some.

[Young Chris]

That was a good joint right there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man. G, that all y' all used to be on tour wilding, man. But yeah, get low. Did not like state them bleak. Why you so cool with them? Like you bugging. Yeah, yo, that's so when people see me and they be like, bleak. You from Philly. I'm like, don't mention that for the. Get loaded. Ain't gonna tell you again.

[Young Chris]

That's crazy. When you think about what you think about.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, them man, Leaky did. Leaky was the only one.

[Young Chris]

And murder.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's it, man. We had our times, man. God damn, bro.

[Young Chris]

Always tell these more is more to come, though.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell yeah, man. We got more while we here, man.

[Young Chris]

You need to drop some music on their ass, man. I know you're doing the podcast, but once. You know what I'm saying? Hey, once in the blue, I got some.

[Memphis Bleak]

I got some cooking, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Young Chris]

About to go to Huey and the Huey problem.

[Memphis Bleak]

Shout out my Huey V. Man. About to go to doctor. Just.

[Young Chris]

I gotta get a joint. I'm with him.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's. That's nothing, man. I got you my G. That's easy. We gonna do that. That's. That's nothing.

[Young Chris]

That's a fact.

[Memphis Bleak]

Whatever, y' all. Y' all get in the studio. He'll be out Here tomorrow y' all lock in.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know what I'm saying? I got a joint with Huey. We about to shoot a video too. And all call more money, more problems. Right. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Again, Shout out my bro, Cheech v Spence on the beat. You know what I mean? That's that warehouse play. We out here moving and grooving, baby. Warehouse, you know what I mean? Don't get too comfortable. We gonna come take that spot. All right. Yo, this like a rhetorical question, both of us, right? Like, I got memories of ye. What's your memories of ye? What's your first memory, you think or you know? Cause ye in a lot of controversy right now and a lot of people who look down on my g. Cause you know, he probably going through some things.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And I want to bring light to the situation. I don't want to. I don't kick nobody when they down. I want to uplift them when they down. That's what I'm. I'm into. And yay is our brother. So what. What's some of your mem like, your first memories, you think?

[Young Chris]

Okay, I know what we was in because yay. Early when he came around, we was moving around together, us and ye. We did a college tour together. You know what I'm saying? We used to go to radio stations and shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

I remember that.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. Every time we go to radio stations, you know, we spitting, getting busy. And I remember, yeah. Asking me like, yo, dang. Cause I was spitting. I did some different shit. He's like, yo, every time you rap, you switching your up again. You like. You know what I'm saying Now you switching your shit up again. Woo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Woo.

[Young Chris]

He just, you know, was always real competitive. And just the tour life, just a tour life in itself. Like we did what's the drain out LA.

[Memphis Bleak]

Live.

[Young Chris]

House of Blues, drinking. I remember Martin was there and one of the nights we did. We had.

[Memphis Bleak]

Remember Beans pulled the strap out on Sug at the House of Blues.

[Young Chris]

We played House of House of Blues. Yeah, right. We. That was going so crazy. We did a House of no bleed four nights back to back.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Young Chris]

The tour, the college tour we did, Dang. Like, that's how impactful was for real, man. When we came out here, when we came out, Miami Ho came out. Ain't nobody know he was coming out. Me and. Me and Nef asked him to come for the set. It was a big thing. It was taped on the dame. Everybody was out, nobody fighting. The was coming. He Came out this. They went so crazy. He couldn't even perform. He was set. It was like three, right? I forget which three records he's going to do or two records. But when he came out, they lost it to the point he ain't even Rush. Yeah. Gave him the Michael Jackson joint. Remember that?

[Memphis Bleak]

In and out wave. I'm good. You heard Peace.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. That was some my good memories of Yay. On the road with him and just create with him. Grown man remix legend.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I forgot you was on that.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, that's how it was the first one for our album. And yeah, they did the beat for the second one for the second album. You know what I'm saying?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I forgot about the grown man remix that was getting played in the Bay every second.

[Young Chris]

When Chris came around, he was. He was. He used to. We was in London, you know, me and Ne on our cool. Performing can sound better that standing on the table.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, he used to take the center of attention in the parties. Freestyling. Yeah. Yay.

[Young Chris]

Yay. Different.

[Memphis Bleak]

My first meeting with Yay. Man, I remember when it's both. I met Guru and just blaze all them at the same time. Remember Goo. We mean Beans and us was in the stool. And Goo like, yo, what y' all need some beats. So I'm like, yeah, Goo like, I'm gonna call my two people peoples. It was me and Beans and he's like, yo, I'm call my peoples to the stool. We didn't know the two peoples he was calling was just blazing Kanye, you know what I'm saying? Dumble with it.

[Young Chris]

You know what I mean?

[Memphis Bleak]

Them walked in the studio and started playing beats. I immediately did this. Jay, you better get your ass down here. They got some down here. You heard they got some aliens in the studio. Get down here. And we started the Dynasty album that day.

[Young Chris]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's my first time meeting us and then my next time.

[Young Chris]

So them two produced the Dynasty by themselves?

[Memphis Bleak]

Just them two, basically.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. Majority the body work.

[Memphis Bleak]

And then I remember after the Dynasty came out, this is when I knew Yay. His project Water was different from my project. Cause we all drunk project Water. But his pipeline. And I think Huey got a little bit of it too. Cause I think Milwaukee and Chicago is connected. So, yeah, they both got the same pipeline. Cause Huey a little weird too. But I knew Kanye was crazy. Yeah, the nigga bought a brand new G wagon. Had it delivered to Baseline. Now, mind you, I told you I had the 600 and I'm like the G Wagon was the like it is today. Still the upper echelon of the bends. They wheeled it off the truck. First time I remember, I go to the dealership, get my car and drive away. They backed his shit off the truck. Still was peeling plastic off everything. They did all of that. That got packed up and left. So we out there looking at ye like, damn, you killing that nigga turned around and looked at me and said, bleep. Yo, but do this look like a girl car? I said, did a girl buy this? If a girl bought it, then it's a girl called. Is a baby called girl car, anybody?

[Young Chris]

It's the.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's a G Wagon. Like, why did you buy it if you didn't know?

[Young Chris]

He was like, just because that's when you knew.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes, they told me.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, he was different.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's the best bins to have. It was like, okay, yeah, I want to have that kind of money where they could just tell you, yo, that's the best. Like, it gives. Give me it. Me, I do research before I buy a car so I know I like it. I don't care who else like it. Because imagine I always say to myself, when I think about that, if I'd have been like, nah. Yeah, that. Yeah, I wonder what he did where he called the truck back like, yo, pick this up. Bleak said this, wow. Like, yo. So it always make me wonder, like, damn, Bleak, what happened if you would have went against the grain. Yeah, just did some like that too. Just bought. When the new Cadillac pickup trucks came out. Just bought the truck. Had me call my man, shout out Ralph, God bless his soul man passed away. This was my guy who put all the twenties, all the TVs, doors going up in the round here, videos on my trucks, everything. And just wanted to get his truck done by him. Just brought an avalanche. Paid to get the system done. TVs, rims, everything. And never drove the truck. Yeah, never, ever drove it. He went to sell the truck. The truck had about 25 miles on it.

[Young Chris]

I don't know who was the wearers who was just so. Yeah. Who was the crazy?

[Memphis Bleak]

They both equal. They. To me, they both equal. Because I always tell just thing. Kanye speaks his weirdness. Like, people like, yo, yay, bug. Just ears weirdness. Cause just to sit there and hear, make a beat. I see people make beats in the studio all day. They use 15 tracks, 8 tracks, 10 tracks. Just literally tapes the board. Write it all the way down to about 60. Then take that tape up and put new tape and write down to about 100. And that's how many different sounds is in one beat. And I say to him, how the fuck you heard a whole 100 sounds.

[Young Chris]

While he playing a game?

[Memphis Bleak]

Ill. While he playing Zelda. You right. He be playing Zelda. Yeah. I heard this beat like, yo, what the. Just like, how did you just do that? Like, even with round here, a lot of people don't know. Just made round here. And he didn't even want to give me. You lying.

[Young Chris]

You ain't like, Southern right there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, he didn't even want to give me the beat. I walk in the studio, yo, Jess, was this Nah. Some I'm with. So I said, nah, this hard? Nah, Bleak, this ain't all that. Give me the beat. What's wrong with you?

[Young Chris]

Dang.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, he didn't even want to do it.

[Young Chris]

He did Friday night on the bus. On the tour bus.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Young Chris]

Yo, that beat on the bus.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm telling you. Just that.

[Young Chris]

Be on the bus.

[Memphis Bleak]

See Kanye. I never seen Kanye cook up. I seen just cook up. Yeah. That's why I can't wait to have just ink guru7 separately on this show.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause a lot of y' all don't know I got my own verses. I'm setting up. You wasn't there. Just blazing Guru on the wheels of steel. We gotta bring that up. That was a battle of all ages. They gonna make 400 videos on they shaheem behind this. I don't care. Bleak got the world right now. Don't do that. No, it's all love, Chris. It's peace and love. Nori say that now. So. And he in the Watch Club, so I'm trying to get in. So it's peace and love. Peace and love, my brother. I'm like, yo, my brother and all of that. It's new language over here now. You feel me? We gotta get in the Watch Club. So it's peace and love. They don't want us gang bangers in there. They gonna kick us out. They not even gonna let us buy the watch for wifey. Like, God, you got a gangster, they gonna think we Apache. Is she from Philly?

[Young Chris]

What?

[Memphis Bleak]

They definitely gonna be like, get her ass out of here. Yo, yo, you seen them bugging in Philly, man. The cops, man, got off for shooting the ball. That's crazy.

[Young Chris]

Oh, yeah, man. It was looting. Crazy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, God bless homie soul. That's some bullshit. You know them cops gotta be held accountable. Accountable for what they did. Yeah, the city went crazy. Yo, they taught. Yo, bro, they went crazy. Them ran in the weed store. I respect that. The Apple store is like, ah, whatever. But when I heard they ran up in the weed spot, like, pharmacies everywhere, like, they tore the city up.

[Young Chris]

I ain't gonna lie, I messed some of them little, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, but, yo, tell them holla at me, DM me. You know what I mean? DM me. I buy hot, hot sweaters, hot TVs. I'm still outside the Watch Club. Ain't gonna hear this part. Where that shit at, yo. Yo, well, listen, a lot of people don't know for the long Philly got they own language. And I had to learn it because everything I did. Chill, chill. Everything I did back in the day, these yo, bleak draw. Yo, you draw. Yo, bleed, you draw. So I used to be like, what the am I drawing? I didn't pull a gun. I didn't draw nothing what I'm drawing. So I had to learn. Yo, when you wild it, you draw. Everything is the draw.

[Young Chris]

Yeah, everything.

[Memphis Bleak]

The gun, the girl.

[Young Chris]

Man, everything is.

[Memphis Bleak]

The jaw, the draw. Yo, you got the jaw. Jaw. I was with the jaw in the jaw. Yeah, yo, yo, it's his own language in Philly. So when you go there, you gotta know the jaw means everything. Everything. All right? It don't just mean women is everything. The joke could be a star. Yeah, yo, you seen the draw flapper like, yeah, the jaw. The flying jaw.

[Young Chris]

Yeah. We're going to the other joint tonight.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, see, they going to the joint, see, Telling y' all. Y' all better catch up, man. Every city, man, but Philly, they always mistake me from being from Philly. And it's like, I don't know why. I got a song called Murder, Murder Marcyville and still see me bleak you from Philly.

[Young Chris]

Like, yo, my and you on the South Philly killer, will. Yo, that's why.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's like, they adopted me, so, you know, I accept it. I love Philosopher Philly. That's my second home. Philly showed me Mad love. Freeway put me on to the Muslim spot, get my oils from. I go to win Yahaga with my guys. You know what I'm saying? Get my. You know what I mean? That's easy. You know what I mean? Then I hit South Street. Correction. I used to hit South Street.

[Young Chris]

Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Now I hit food chases.

[Young Chris]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Memphis Bleak]

Bibbles Ishka out of here.

[Young Chris]

It's out of here. Soul Fish Ishka out of here.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, you heard they Ishka out of here. We can do a versus if they want food Chambers Is it Ishka? Bibbles Versus.

[Young Chris]

Versus.

[Memphis Bleak]

They don't want that smoke, yo. But Philly is my second home. I love it. You know, y' all my motherfucking brothers. I told you 400 times, you're more than welcome here, you know? You know what I'm saying? This is rock solid and we rock life, you know, My man Young Gun, he on Instagram. He don't follow nobody. So y' all can go follow him, though. But he don't follow nobody. But mysteriously, he comments. So I say to myself, how the.

[Young Chris]

I saw the post. I see. And if your page ain't private, I can comment on your shit if it's over.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, but I'm like, how you don't follow nobody. Nothing comes up on the feed, like explore. He saw this because it'll be a gunner post, and I'll be like, yo.

[Young Chris]

I'm always in the know.

[Memphis Bleak]

But, yeah, my man followed Young Gun, ent? Right?

[Young Chris]

Yeah. Young Chris nt.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Young Chris]

It's for nice town. Yeah. Young Chris nt. Y O U N G C H R S N t, baby.

[Memphis Bleak]

The YouTube, all that, you know? I mean, what's your YouTube channel?

[Young Chris]

Young Chris, man, everything is young because I kept it. Everything else is solid. Twitter, Young Chris. You know what I'm saying? YouTube, everything. Yo, I got forever Young.

[Memphis Bleak]

Listen, be trying to steal names. I don't like none of this shit.

[Young Chris]

Young, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, it was another Young Chris. Nah, this the real Young Chris. Now they got. I ain't gonna front. I ain't gonna front. Nef got a problem. I called him, too, when I first heard of the kid. Nick Bucks.

[Young Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

I was like, yo, Nef. Niggas taking your name. But then I heard homie spitting.

[Young Chris]

I was like, bucks.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn.

[Young Chris]

Niece nice, too.

[Memphis Bleak]

You got a problem? I called the back. You got a problem. Homie might take this. So you know what I mean? I gotta talk to nefax.

[Young Chris]

How you feel about that?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's my bro. Shout out Nick Bucks and Nef Bucks.

[Young Chris]

Shout out Nick Bucks. For sure.

[Memphis Bleak]

My man Nef out here on his modeling 2, 7 pictures everywhere he go, showing the watch, you know what I mean? Everything. The sneakers, you know what I mean?

[Young Chris]

He said he ain't rapping no more. He doing this.

[Memphis Bleak]

We need that booking info, Nef. Don't forget. That's what it is.

[Young Chris]

He booking all the shows.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, my brother. Man for life, man. In with a shot. Definitely, man. Me pull one up. I'm poor, baby. Shot bleak. Don't really with Doucet like that? Yes, he do.

[Young Chris]

That's your baby shot.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, yeah. That's a baby shot.

[Young Chris]

You heard. Damn, I'm scared of a grown man shot.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, yo, YG love, man. Rock solid. It's been a solid one. Let's go. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding Flag? This is an I Heart podcast.