Maino | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek — Episode Summary

Guest: Maino
Air Date: December 15, 2025
Podcast: ROC Solid (The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

Memphis Bleek welcomes Brooklyn rapper Maino in a deep, no-holds-barred exploration of hip-hop culture, street wisdom, legacies, and authenticity. The two share reflections from their journeys navigating the streets of Brooklyn to the heights of the rap game, dissecting both the challenges and rewards of realness, loyalty, and adapting in an evolving industry. Both artists speak candidly about their personal growth, business lessons, the value (and cost) of staying true, and the importance of giving back to their communities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Roots: Brooklyn Beginnings & First Encounters

• First Meeting & Early Hustle (03:33–05:43)

  • Bleek recounts meeting Maino through a late friend, Billy Shoeshine, recognizing Maino’s ambition straight out of prison.
  • Maino talks about the “come home energy,” having never rapped before jail, and how support from loved ones upon release fueled his drive to break into hip-hop.

• Navigating Aggression & Earning Respect (06:10–08:47)

  • Maino admits his early industry approach was aggressive—shaped by years in prison.
  • Emphasizes how tough entry barriers made success more meaningful then compared to today’s social-media-driven exposure.

  "If you had a major record deal, it was because you was that good." — Maino (09:07)

Then vs. Now: The Changing Game of Hip-Hop

• Accessibility & Oversaturation (10:15–11:38)

  • Bleek and Maino agree: Rap today is more accessible, but this dilutes its prestige—creating both more opportunities and more "saturated" mediocrity.
  • Difference between rappers and artists, beatmakers and true producers.

  "Rap is like the only industry where it's no standard. You don't have to meet a requirement." — Maino (09:34)

• Early Breakout Moments (12:13–12:53)

  • Maino recounts how the song “Rumors” was his breakthrough and the impact of his first national hit “Hi Hater.”

Lessons in Business & Life

• Business Principles & Emotional Detachment (13:37–15:17)

  • Maino stresses not taking business personally, sharing how artists shouldn’t confuse friendships with contractual obligations.

  “Don't take nothing personal. Business ain't personal.” — Maino (13:51)

  • The value of opportunities sometimes outweighs the check.

• Sacrifice, Ego, and Collaboration (16:15–17:57)

  • Maino and Bleek reflect on working collectively, especially referencing the success of the “Lobby Boys” and the unity across New York’s boroughs.

  “Building business comes without ego.” — Maino (16:48)

Realness, Pride, & the Cost of Authenticity

• The Double-Edged Sword of "Keeping It Real" (33:03–34:59)
  • Both discuss how staying principled and prideful sometimes hindered their career trajectories.

  “I probably swallow my blood before I swallow my pride… but that's not always good. This is business.” — Maino (33:14)

  • Internet culture rewards entertainment over truth and authenticity.

  “We can't out-real a game… Because this is entertainment.” — Maino (34:59)

Community, Giving Back, and Maino Day

• Creating a Legacy in Brooklyn (45:00–46:40)
  • Maino discusses organizing “Maino Day,” an annual block party officially recognized by the city, aiming to offer positive outlets and community unity.

  “I wanted to do something meaningful… a block party… give back for kids… that’s legacy.” — Maino (45:31–46:40)

Reflections on Coming Up, Hard Knocks, & Survival

• Growing Up in Brooklyn (54:22–60:46)
  • Stories about infamous Brooklyn pools, street culture, the absence of community centers, and surviving the rough environment.

  “There was no phones, there was no cameras. You let your kids go out… all you could do is pray they made it home.” — Maino (59:02)

On Musical Legacy, Impact, and the Future

• Legacy over Hits (61:36–62:49)

  • Maino shares his focus on building lasting value for his name and his community, aiming to be remembered for more than music.

  “Now we talking about legacy… building some stuff, that’s legacy.” — Maino (61:54)

  • Bleek points out how rare it is for artists from their background to rise and be included in the cultural canon.

• Modern Industry: Streaming vs. Radio (67:08–69:28)

  • Old school radio hits had national reach; streaming stars can be massive but less universally known.
  • Discuss how artists like NBA YoungBoy are redefining fame and influence without radio.
  • Radio still pays heavily compared to streams, but times are changing.

Final Words to the Next Generation

• Main Advice to Young Artists (72:04–73:50)
  • “Keep going, take it to another level, and live. The name of the game is to grow. Live, get old, not die young.”

  “Ain't nothing more cool than being alive, being free, getting money. Ain't nothing more cooler than that.” — Maino (73:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Come home energy is unlike anything. May he rest in peace… [Billy Shoeshine] was my biggest supporter.” — Maino (04:44)
• “Sometimes, you have to give to get. The opportunity is bigger than the check.” — Maino/Bleek (15:01–15:15)
• “This is entertainment. We're not going to win an award for being the realist.” — Maino (35:06)
• “I tell your little niggas… your opportunity was way greater than mine… when I was your age, [all] I had was cracking the gun for me.” — Maino (47:09)
• “If I didn't have the game, I would be probably like a serial killer… I'd probably be walking the yard.” — Maino (41:51–42:01)
• “You got to not just tell somebody… If you're gonna tell me to put down what I'm doing, give me something else.” — Maino (52:44)
• “You should want to be one of these niggas one day. Because the name of the game is to grow.” — Maino (72:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening & First Meetings: 03:33–05:43
• Entering Industry, Energy Post-Prison: 06:10–08:47
• Prestige of the Old Game vs. Now: 09:07–11:38
• Difference Between Rappers & Artists: 11:38–12:13
• Breakout Song & Career Shift: 12:13–12:53
• Business Lessons: 13:37–15:17
• Working Together/Lobby Boys: 16:15–17:57
• Media & Podcast Transition: 29:47–31:58
• Keeping It Real vs. Winning in Business: 33:03–34:59
• Giving Back/Maino Day: 45:00–46:40
• Community Centers & the Old Neighborhood: 53:00–54:22
• Defining Legacy: 61:36–62:49
• Radio vs. Streaming: 67:08–69:28
• Advice to the Next Generation: 72:04–73:50

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Tone and Language

This episode is marked by unfiltered, streetwise honesty—mixing nostalgia, hard-earned wisdom, humor, and deep respect for Brooklyn and hip-hop culture. Both Memphis Bleek and Maino keep it candid and conversational, oscillating between playful banter and hard-hitting insight, always with a sense of solidarity and pride about where they came from and how far they've made it.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

• Raw Realness: Unvarnished tales of Brooklyn and the music industry—success, mistakes, and everything in between.
• Blueprints for Survival: Strategies for staying relevant, standing out, and staying sane in an unpredictable industry and world.
• Legacy Building: A rare inside perspective on what it means to really build something that outlasts a record or a viral moment.
• Street Wisdom and Heart: For anyone who wants to understand hip-hop’s soul beyond the music—this is where the game gets broken down.

Transcript

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Shop [e-mail] or visit your closest Pandora store. What up, y'? All? This your main man, Memphis Bleak, right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network, in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. Yeah, yeah, y'. All. You already know what it is. Back with another exclusive. And like I told you, you see many people sitting at this table, but not everybody is like everybody. And this man to the left of me is not only my brother, but he's definitely a Brooklyn solid. One of the guys I respect from the beginning. Ever since I met him, it's nothing but love between us. And I watched them tell me, imma get in this and I'mma make my mark. And you did that, my G. Let's welcome Ado to the building. You know what I mean? Brooklyn in the building.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

What's up, my brother, My dog. What's that saying?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Grind different time, man. Hey, you'll see you shining. Still happy for you, my brother.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Appreciate that, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, you probably don't even remember the first time I met you.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I do remember.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You remember. It was in the club. We was here.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, it was in Brooklyn. It was all. It was over. Rockaway East New York, yo.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

One of the grimiest clubs ever. And I remember I'm sitting in the dressing room and rest in peace. Shout out to the homie from Marcy, Billy Shoeshine, that's who he walked in with. And sure, like, yo, I want you to meet somebody. Bleak. This nigga's nice man from Brilliant. Just came home. Trust me. Got that. And that's how I first met you. Remember that night Word.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Heard the form. Yup, yup. I didn't forget that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That was crazy. And they let them rockets off when we left.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Absolutely. It was a rough. That was a rough spot. I forgot the name of that spot.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Me too.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That was like Rockaway Parkway or Rockaway, Ashley Avenue.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Trenches.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

There was any trenches, though. It was definitely hood. It was big, you know? Yeah, I definitely remember that, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, man. And from that day, I respect. Cause you told me that day you like Bleak, man. You know, I just came home, I'm trying to do my thing in the game. I'm gonna do my thing. I'm nice. Billy was talking highly, you know something there is just up.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That come home energy is unlike anything I believe. And Shoeshine, may he rest in peace, man, my brother, he was like, at a time very early on, like my biggest supporter, you know, we was Coming up in the ranks in jail, I was never rapping, so nobody knew me for rap. So when I started rapping.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

When I.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Got out of the box, the first jail I went to when I. When I got out of box after I was rapping was Elmira. I went back to Elmira, and me and him, you know, he came in and we wound up being next door neighbors. So I would be like, yo, listen to this. Like, you know what I mean? So we had that bond. And when I came home, he was like, yo, he. Yeah, let's go. You know what I mean? So he was. He. He was my. He was. Yeah, he was my. He was my guy, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's what's up. Rest in Peace Shoes was a monster and a rebel. And he. He had that energy, man, that motivation. He definitely could motivate you.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

He did.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

He was telling my guys, like, why are you listening to me?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

He showed that right here. Why you not listen?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

He was the same way in the hood. Used to tell us the same in Marcia, man, that. I'm telling you. Bleak Watch he go take this over. So. And then I watched you grind my G. And then here come absolutely.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yo, before, I hate. It was rumors, though. I don't remember rumors. When it was the song, when I was talking about all the rumors, that's the song that actually got me signed first. That was the song that kind of changed the game. Because before that, it was like the mixtapes and the DVDs. It was that era. We was end up talking crazy.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, Dwayne, going back there, you just sparked the memory, man. I remember back then, too, that's when they used to be like, yo, I ain't go front, man. No squeezing all the DJs. He putting deodorant on everybody. Neck that in the club like this. Yo, let me highlight you real quick, homie. They can say you put D O on everybody in the city.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You know what? I hear that so much, right? And I'm like.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I don't feel like he was like that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Like. Like, I don't think because, like, yo, I was smacking DJs up and I'm like, nah, I ain't never, ever put my. Put my hands on. On a dj. Okay, maybe a couple promoters, but. Oh, yeah, sure, no DJs, right? But the thing was, is, like, sometimes we got it. I was coming from a world where it was like. It was aggressive. I've been to two places in my whole life. It was the streets, and I've been in prison, and I went after Prison, I went back to the streets. So my, my, my. My introduction might have been a little aggressive because the energy of just coming home, you gotta. You gotta understand the mentality of a. That just been in prison all this time. His energy is up. Because we sit in the day room like, damn, fantasizing your bro. Let me tell you, man, I used to sit in the day room and watch y' all understand this perspective of 70 people in a day when watching TRL or Rap City and they doing Rockefeller Countdown or whatever it is. And we just like, man, I touchdown, right? Like, and you could just fantasize. And I tell Proof all the time. I'm like, man, I really to be down with Rockefeller, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm wonder, like. Because everybody like, you have these dreams. You have these dreams.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I tell over a lot, man. I don't think he understand that. He know. I ain't gonna say he don't know, but I think at one point, bro, we could have signed the whole New York City.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Absolutely.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

100. Absolutely.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Absolutely. You know, what y' all did for people coming from, especially where we come from, we from the style, like, when you see somebody do it, that you absolutely relate to you. Like, man, it gives you some hope that you could change some of this shit around in your life. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And back then, a lot of these kids don't understand. Cause it's easy. I gonna say it's easy. But it's easier than it was for.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Back then to get in the game.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You could create a YouTube channel, IG, Twitter, right? Your following up and they see your music. Back then, this was like telling the. You going to the NBA 100%. Like, no, you not.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

If you had a major record deal, it was because you was that good.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You had to be.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You was that good. And that's what it said. It was. It was more prestigious. It was like. It was a. Because you had to meet a standard. Like, because everybody wasn't getting record deals.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Everything did not go, yes. And then certain people got in because they got vouched for.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right? But it was. It was still who you knew, though.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact, right?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Which wasn't. Wasn't easy because everybody have access. So it wasn't like now where, you know, the technology made it to where it's like you could go your grandmother basement and make a record and then upload it on your Instagram and your YouTube page. And then you just. You just a robber, right? And I say this all the time. Rap is like the only, you know, industry where it's no standard. You don't have to meet a requirement. Right? You know what I mean? You just can't be a professional boxer. You can't just be.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, you can't wake up and just. You gonna get your shit, Nick, right?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You can't just be a professional basketball player like football, nothing.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You can't wake up and get into no league, nothing.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Just can't just be a doctor. You gotta, you can't just be a lawyer. Like you have to study words, work, study school, master your skill, right? Yeah. Rap, you can let, man, you know What? I got 4,000 followers. I'm going to be rapping.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm going to the studio and then, you know, I'm gonna be lit. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I, I, in the way it's good and bad because in a way it over saturates the game. Yes, it's too, you know, accessible for everybody. But then the good side is more men is making a lot of uneducated people that ain't qualified to get jobs able to feed and provide for. I like that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm always love that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I love that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm always love for sure that it not only give you, gives, gives people jobs, but it gives you something to do. Yes, right, but right, the thing is, it's like it brings down the value.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Of what, it devalues the product. Because if you got a bunch of bullshit, it's just like selling work, bro. You know, you flood the black with tr, they not going to make it to the guy over here who's the headbanger, right? You feel me? And it's the same thing over here. It's all saturated.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It devalues even the idea of being a rapper because everybody is one. And it's like, I don't even want to add me that, but it's not even the same.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's why I have two sayings, man. Even with producers, I feel like in this game there's beat makers and there's producers, right? Beat maker is who going to send you 30 beats and expect you to do his job. Find the hot one.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Producer will sit with you, come with the, the hood idea, he's going to create.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That goes to your point. You're not a rapper, right? You're an artist. That's why though, there's rappers, right? And then there's artists indeed who. This is art. So speaking on that, how did, how would you say how hater changed your life. What?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It was the first sonic that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That really went.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That went for me, rational. You know what that feel like, bro? Like, this is a dream come true, right? Five years before that, I was. I was walking the yard. You understand? Like, this is unbelievable. Like a hit. And you gotta understand, like, it was nobody. Nobody had done really what I had. Like, nobody had came home after doing 10 years in jail and became a. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Half these rappers that are rappers that go to jail, come home, come home trash, right? Like, so to come home late.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah. It hadn't happened like that for nobody prior to that. So I was just like, man, it was a dream come true though, bro. Like, just. Just to make it that far. And I will always say, man, if it, if it ended now, I. I over. I overachieved because I did what. What they said that I couldn't. You understand? Like, you know, I was never supposed to even get this far. Like I was the whole inmate. You know what I'm saying? Real life facts.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Fact that I met. That's so crazy, man, that I met you after you came home. That's right. Meet you before and we had so much mutual friends. My cheers. Like, we know the whole Brooklyn is the same, but it's like, yo. But the fun.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah. I'm from Ocean.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Right down the blast. Like, literally right down the block, my G. So I would say to you, right, what's the most important business lesson you would say you learned and gang you would give to these younglings?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Don't take nothing personal. Business ain't personal.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Sometimes you. You can do business with. With personal people. Yours. But. Yeah, but the business and the moves that you make is. Is not a. Shouldn't come from a personal place, you know? And, you know, a lot of times we, we, we. We tie up our emotions with certain things. Yeah, right. I see a lot of artists get mad at the people that they were signed to.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I thought he was my man, though.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I thought he was like, you know, you see a lot of, you know, Puff getting flack for certain things with artists or whatever, right? Man, I'm just like, no black man contract was worse than the white man contract. Nobody. And I, I've educated myself a little bit in, In. In the game a little bit. So I'm saying nobody did no. No business different than it's been doing.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Than what they've done. Everybody, like, gotta remember. I feel like people gonna do onto others what was done to them. You know what I mean? If we learned the game in a negative way. You gonna repeat the game in a negative way. And it's just. That's just how we come.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Thing is, is it's like you gotta give to get, right? You not always gonna have what you want when you want it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

But the opportunity is bigger than the check.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Oh, the opportunity.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's why it's crazy you say that, because I had. I was just talking to Nori today, and he was telling me about. It's a viral video going on with Steve Harvey where he says about, yo, when the person lose their father is when they realize that's the only man who ever wanted you to be better than him. That there's no other man that you gonna meet in your life that wants you to be better than them. Like, you know what I mean? They could want you to do good, but not better than them. And I'm telling Nori that's true. And I'm the type of nigga, of course I want my niggas. I want to be the vest. But if I know setting you up to get the win for you is going to make the win for me easier. And we'll let you be there. He was like, yo, bleak. Not everybody is like that. So I'm saying with your point is, we need more niggas that's willing to sacrifice the W for the one because it makes the role easier for the. For the many. Because if we all feel like for the W, then yeah, but then we.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Got to learn how to work together and learn what. Just what your power is. And learn with the yes strokes. See, that's the only way that happens.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And your strips might be. Might be a weakness for me, my weakness might be a symptom for somebody else. You know what I'm saying?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But if we come together, right? Find that out, then we. Then we. Then we play to our strengths.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right. And that's how we balance that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's. That's why I love what you and Jim did with the Lobby boys. Like, I respect that because in New York, man, you know, they paint the picture on us that we don't fuck with each other, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And I'll just. I just said that I don't think we get enough credit for actually kind of like brushing that backwards because it's like we. We traditionally known as the people that don't get along with each other. Yes. Here we come. You know, Brooklyn, Harlem, linking up and Fab and East. And all us, all of us is building this friendship and then building Business around it. You understand? Like, and. And that. And that comes by. That comes without ego. That's the only way that's gonna happen.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right. Every. As a. As an artist, as a rapper, we tend to think everything is about us, man. You know what? Why they ain't let me come out.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You know what I mean? Why you ain't call me for that verse? Why you. Everything ain't always gonna be about you.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And you gotta learn to get there. So sometimes I come out. It's just support.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It ain't about that. It ain't about. Right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You know, and then sometimes some nice. It is about me and the homies.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Is just a support. That's right. They gotta. They got us. Right? That's right. That's.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's how they go.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Y' all moving. I love what y' all did. It started with the working out. Y' all think is having me. Yeah. Jim working out with Jim bad. Like, yo, now you turn it into a fashion show. Word up. And then the fucking. The artist to artist, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But that artist. Artist, artist started. But then we did.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

We.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

We branched out and did our own. Is. Let's rap about it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's what it is. Let's rap about it. Yeah. My bad. My bad.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Promote two shows.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Artists, artists. And let's rap about it. Check out both of them. You know what I mean? But, yo, y' all be shooting. Yo. It's like everybody got the sniper right about for like. What's that word?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Words. Everything. And it's a fashion show, so.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Oh, yeah. Y', all, y'.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

All.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

All y'.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

All.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They put four to flies. New York in the room together, y'.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

All.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Major, major battling on camera. Quiet too. That's award outfits.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah. Just for that day.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. I couldn't.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So crazy, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Guys is on that next level. Y' all been on there. You'll be going hard too, with the grab. You'll be on.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'll be trying to have my.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You know what I mean?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Like, you know, it's. It's. It's cool though. And because that's who we are in life.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. So.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So in. In what makes the show good is that we really got that relationship. Is that chemistry.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, man, that's dope.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's why I say.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's why I did this show. Because a lot of people think don't with each other. That's like. Man, I got a lot of relationships that don't even know behind the Scenes Me and such and such kicking in Me and such and such Vacation Me and such and such boys since being little. Like, think about it. Like, one of my main homies is AVL Crew. And I remember the first time I seen them riding around. I'm like, yo, yo, Proof, you kob. Now, I didn't get like, yeah, Blizz, okay, O. B, But I'm always getting low, man. I'm like, that's right, Pete. Yeah, but, bro, I knew. Proof says.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Proof was like, we. We talk about shot all the time or Herb. And we talk about, you know, Haya, you know, Rockefeller get low. We talk about all that. Jeter didn't know you. Shout out Gina Shout out to Jesus K. Van Shout out, shout out, shout out to my man Fizzle success. Oh, I guess because, you know, Pizzo, when I came home, took me to Gay House and we snatched Jeter up because I was hungry. I wanted to do a song with whoever. And you gotta understand, you gotta look at it from my point of view. All y' all lit to me.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

No, All y' all lit to me yeah, Everybody. Because Cheetah was on fire.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Jeter was off Cody without us. Dolo.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I'd never been on the tour with Flex. See, G the was.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

We went to G the house.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Word.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Wake up. Let's go, let's go, let's go. We're going to the studio.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And he had 40 rhymes.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, we was written. Yeah, And. And, and those, those. Those memories, man. Like, it was like, man, I gotta get on. Like, I. You know. So, yeah, shout out. Shout out to them. So we always. We always reflect on that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And I'll be like, man, man, I wanted to be Rockefeller, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I wanted to be down with them.

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

T o.com them days, man, I ain't going front, bro. Rockefeller. I think I took them days for granted.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Why you say that?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Because I was young. And you know, when you didn't prepare for the ending, you don't see an end.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

He told me the same thing.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, like, you don't see an ending, bro. Like, it's like this is forever. So I didn't cherish it. Like, one day this can be gone. Like, I feel like that situation has trained me to realize that everything ain't forever. Cause I really believe Rockefeller was forever.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This thing of ours, I could see that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Like, you know what I'm saying? Remember, I was 14 years old, bro. I didn't know anything else but Rockefeller, you know what I'm saying? So when it was coming to an end, that shit was devastating.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You didn't even see it though.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, I did.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You seen it, bro? Yes.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You know, I used to be trying to tell niggas, and they used to be looking at me like, blizz, man, we get money. Shut up. It's like, okay, okay, let's see. Like, word. I used to be trying to put on.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And it just said, you feel like. Because me and him had had these talks, Me and. Me and living proof, right? I'd be like, man, I had to work for every. Everything I got, bro. I'm like, nobody gave me. I had to b every bit of it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

So he said.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's the difference. He said. With us, you know, a lot of it was. Was given to us. And we, you know, appreciate it. Appreciate.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Like, the. Think about it, bro. We had a studio, Baseline Studio, where it's two rooms. You can go to this studio any time of day. I don't care if you showed up at nine in the morning or four o' clock in the morning. And there's just Blaze, Guru Bink, Kanye west in the studio. And we don't have too much level of records that exposing this is what I'm saying. Like, if we in there playing old.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Was telling y', all, man. What he was telling y'. All. Like, y' all need to.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's what I'm saying. It was too. I think we were too young, seeing too much too fast, bro. And me thinking, yeah, we all from Marcy. These my. They watch me grow up this shit forever, right? Like. But as far as, like, position in the team, that wasn't given. Cause it's a lot of niggas that was on the team that never got a chance to drop an album. What you mean? Like, think about it. Osino and Sparks never dropped the album. Petey Crack never dropped the album.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Oh, wow.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They only was on the State Property soundtrack. And I. And I wanted these guys to drop albums. But that's what I'm saying. We was on tour so much. Already had chains, already had bins. Houses was like, nigga, we made it. This what we rapped for.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

From the outside, looking at that, it just looks so tremendous.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It was, bro. It was.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Their movement was just so tremendous. It was Brooklyn and Harlem.

[Commercial Announcer (Sprite)]

Harlem.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

We had Philly. Philly, yo, and then think we moped odb. Rest in peace. We've had the singers. Nicole Ray.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, bro, we had everybody, man. We was. We was low enough. That's what I'm saying. We could have signed everybody, man. Like, for real. But enough about us. Back to you, man. You on a major. Like, you stepped into this media wave. Like, I'm. I'm fresh, I'm new. I'm the rookie of wylock. I'm not gonna act like, because I've been in the game for years, I know this media space. I'm the rookie on the block. You are the veteran on the block. He bit of this. Nah, bro. You've been doing it from Kitchen Talk, right?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Loving hip hop, hosting the radio show with Angela Yee. You know what I mean? Then doing the part with the homies right now. Like, what's that journey been like for you?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm a hustler, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And the thing about it is, like, it never was easy for me, bro. Nothing ever was easy for me. I had to work for everything, bro.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I had to grind for everything.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Everything that people seen me accomplish, I had to really go get it. You know, I gotta be on time. I gotta make sure I'm there. Cause I don't want them to use that as an excuse. So I feel like I was always coming from a deficit, you understand? So I just feel like, you know, we all got talent. It's just tapping into different things, you know, we all got things about us, you know, and as far as, you know, media or television or radio, that's your personality. Let that shine.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right. It shine.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You understand how to talk.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right. You know, I was nervous of this. I. Yeah, I did it. Nor they told me. I'm like, man, I don't think I do it. Got it, though.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You got it. You got it, though.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You've been holding it down. You did so much, like. And you like a pioneer in my eyes, bro. Like I said, bro, you started first the Kitchen Talk move.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Like, I should have never stopped Kitchen Talk. I stopped that because, you know, I see a lot of people, they, you know, oh, you did Kitchen Talk and it didn't work. No, it did work, but it worked so well that I actually got a deal for the Kitchen Talk that we. I did with Fox, with Fox Soul. But then the problem with that is that once I did that deal with them, it. It stopped being a podcast.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And I didn't. And I was only doing it now when you got my check. So if you got my six figures, I give you these 10 episodes doing this.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

So now, Right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It's not. It's not about it being a podcast no more. So once that stopped, it's like, you know, sometimes. Sometimes it's hard to go back and pick something back up, you know, But I Learned a lot. And I'm glad I did it because it allows me and it helps me to do what I'm doing today.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You know what I mean? So everything to me is like, ain't no book for us.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Bleak. Hell no.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Nobody could have sell us how to do something. We gonna figure it out. You give me like a. Like a little bit like something small, like just an opportunity. That's all I need.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's all I need the opportunity. And like me, I feel like we've been on the same path a lot. Even though we never collaborated on music, but we've been on the same path in music. So I never been able to really ask too many people this question. But I gotta ask you this. Cause I know you're. How do you feel? Cause we stand ten toes, you know, that's the code we was raised by. I don't know if it's the area by parents, the niggas we grew up with. Like the trauma you lived through, I live through. But we always been. Say what you mean, mean what you say. Stare 10 toes on you. And they call that keeping it 100, keeping it real, whatever they want to call it, I just call it being the man. How do you feel or do you feel that has helped or hurt your career in any way?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It hurt me a lot. I feel the same way because we don't. I'm a very principled person.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And I'm.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

A very prideful person. I probably swallow my blood before I swallow my pride.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You understand? And sometimes, you know, that's not always good. Because this is business, right? I had to learn. I had to tell my guys, I said, listen, we can't out real these niggas. The reason why guys like us are losing and they be like, why all the goofy is. Is prevalent is because they don't have no parameters. We out here saying, okay, we don't do this, we don't do that. We don't go back and forth with Internet. We don't do the Internet. We don't do that. Right?

[Medical/Pharmaceutical Announcer]

We.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, if you're not gonna win.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So. So the thing about being a principal person, you gonna stand with in your space and everybody may not get it. And the time, you know, you, you, you may have to not be here for them to really feel that. Because sometimes it's like the world that we living in is not about that no more. It's just like, everybody's just like, you know, what do you mean? I, I Don't understand, like, what we like, you know, man, everybody's offended. Every. Nobody has principles. Nobody stand on morals. It's like nobody cares about true, right? Because on the Internet now, it's just about entertainment. It's just about content. Whether it's true or not.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's the thing. I love what charlamagne say, man. Why they care about the truth and the lies. Knowing the tank.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This is what I'm saying, yo.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It's when he said it, I'm like, yeah, it's kind of. It's concentrate, the lies, entertainment. That's what they going with. These people want to be entertained.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And I'm out here trying to be real. That is not true. Trying to be real.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

We can't out.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Really. We can't out real a game. We gonna always lose like that. Because this is entertainment.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yes.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This is not. We're not gonna win an award for being a realist.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Hell, no.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It's no.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It's no category for that. Right, right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But you know the awards that come with being a real. Like Casket scars.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. That's the knowledge.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

The scar. Either. Either. Either. Either. You scarred physically. You scarred mentally, mentally, emotionally. Scarring your soul. Right? Because you want to stand on business. You want to stand on what you feel like, what you represent, but the whole world doesn't see what you retroceive.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They don't even care about it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I care about it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They just want to get to the next day.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So I'm not out here trying to be the realest nigger, you know what I mean? Because, yeah, that ain't gonna get us nowhere.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Why I asked you that is because I never forget, bro. Young Saf, man. Shout out, Young Sav. You know, out here got the Lola, Brooke girl, Vermont thing.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Move.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

His family. Yeah, that's family. Like, he told me something 20 years ago, bro, when he was an intern in death.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Intern. That's what I know for.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

He was an intern.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

His brother is. Was that man school, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Rest in peace.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So I remember him from being spot.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Right here, too, man. Yo, he told me something. He was like, yo, bleak. You know why you ain't gonna never be successful, bro, like you dream to be? Cause you keep it too real, G. These white people don't want to be. They don't want to hear the real. They want to be lied to. They want to hear that it might be like this or you can possibly do this. They don't want to hear that is. Is real.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And he was like, yo, you never. And I'm like, yo, Bro, I don't know how to lie to a nigga. I don't know how to shuck and jive and front to these people. Like, that's not me. But I didn't understand what he was talking about. And now, now you see, I see bro was too, too, too.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Stand on sitting right. You standing on this, this, this moral mountain that you done built for yourself.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It only exists in your projects or on your block with you and like 10 of your homies. That's it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And them niggas ain't never in the room with you when you negotiate, neither is it, right?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

They not even there. They not even there.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

We're hurt. They ain't never in the room with you.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But you know the great thing about it is though, still being here, being alive, being to figure that out.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's what brought up. That's my next thing to you. I was going to say, yo, bro, you live through hell, man, Being incarcerated, you know what I mean? Coming home, enjoying all this, man. What do you say? Your strength behind all that's been resilience, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Resilience, bro. Like, I'm a strong spirited person, bro. Like, I ain't going. Like, I'm gonna push through. You understand? We all still deal with, with, with the things that like those at us, right? But I'm, I'm gonna always, always push through. Like no matter what, you understand, and no matter what the situation is, I'm gonna figure it out. This is why I'm still here in this era.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact. Like, that was one thing too. I was gonna say how you stay grounded because we all go through a lot of shit. But whenever you look on the Internet, it's Joe Smo from over here, Joe Smo from over there, this girl from over here. Everybody just got some opinion, something to say.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Everybody.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I just say grounded and blocked. You know, let's get these people some advice who just love to crash out.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Got a whole load. Listen, I got whole homeless K2 drug addicts going at me, talking crazy on the Internet, making up stories on the Internet. It's all these made up stories and it just, it's just a lot of noise.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, man, like, gotta block it out.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You gotta block it out. You got. Especially now when we, we already see what the motion is. Okay, I' ma say this and get clicks so I can. My time, I. My size, my page. I'm gonna go viral. I'm getting money. So everybody is just saying everything and anything just to, just to try to get these. These eyes on their pages. I just. I just like, at this point, like. Cause I used to get bothered by the things that. That wasn't true.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And I was always trying to like, what, nigga?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Answer it. Yeah, correct. I was the same way. You can't now. I learned to laugh it off. Yeah, I joke it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I ain't even write this shit.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, I joke it off. Cause like I said, bro, nobody gonna be more disrespectful than the we grew up with. You know what I'm saying, my friends was the most disrespectful. Like I said, you came out no clothes off, no new sneaks. First day of school or Easter. Your mom's a crackhead.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's right.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

As she wet, she spends all the money on that pack. She couldn't buy you those sneakers. I got the Ewings. You couldn't get them.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm thinking that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's all I'm saying. Your own family smoke crack. They stood up standing. That's coming from. And thinking. That's coming from a who just was playing Nintendo with it. Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

There you turn around and tell you, yo, yes. Yeah, you owe your own crack. You smoke too, probably, you know, yo.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You seen the game like me from every angle, you know what I mean? From past to in the our time to present. How you think it changed for better or. Or for worse, bro, I mean, we.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Talked a little bit about the fact that the game is now is just so accessible that it don't have the same value. It don't feel the same. As far as like, you know, calling yourself a rapper, you know? You know, we. We. Every day we wake up, we see somebody in the paper for something, and it's like this rapper, and you like, I never even heard that. So I. That I hate that about the game. The fact that it's just the value of the child, right? You got a certain limit. Be like, oh, he just a rapper, nigga. Like, it's just then you got in the street. I get more money to rap. So he's just trying to take away what that is, you understand? Because it was a time where you work hard to be that, because that was a way out, you know? Now it's just like. It's just so accessible. So I don't like that for the game, but I always. And I'm gonna always love the fact that the game gave opportunity to so many people. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. No, that's. Love that leap.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Definitely, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Because without this, I don't like, if I didn't have a game, where would.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, bro, I always say that too. Where would I be if I didn't have this opportunity? I have no clue.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This is what I'm saying. If I had a game, it's like, I would be probably like a serial killer.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, yo, like, yo, this is raised up. I'll probably be. I'd probably be walking the yard. Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This is what I'm saying. Like, no, serious.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, that's a fact, bro. Without this, what was gonna do? Ain't we not carpenters? I'm not a plug.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I would have been out here, like.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Good with my hands. I know how to fight the Iceman. Like, they don't out of mo alone. Like, yo, one of my homies, right? Yo, I would tell you some funny you said, like, what we gonna do? I remember when I first moved to Florida, right? I'm telling the homie. I'm like, yo, I gotta find some landscapers to come through, cut the crib, you know what I mean? I will not do none of that. I was like, yo, you don't not a motor law. That was like, you see these hands? These shits get manicure. All these hands do is write checks. I know how to do anything that a check pay for.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

For. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I was like, yo, that's a good. That's like, no, I know how to do everything. You bugging. Once I pull this checkbook out, it's get done. So I know how to do everything right. So when my chick be like, yo.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You know it's getting done.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Two seconds.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, call the homie.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, it's done.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm on the same side.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I don't.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I ain't with the manual label, man. Nah, man, I ain't with the manual label. Because I brother be like, yo, I want a man that, you know, like a man's man. Like, yeah, you know, lift my car up and take the wheel off and fix the flat tire. We going to leave the car there that call the that. We got to help that. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It come with roadside. It come with roadside. All these little car now come roadside.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It come with roadside either.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And if you got OnStar, it's automatic. Shorty, push that button. Stop playing with.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I ain't going past. You know, I ain't going past hanging up a picture or something.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, that's a fact. And sometimes I might need to do that because I want it, like, organized in a certain pattern, right? My. My hanging might be a little off. So a Little degree off.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You need homie to come. My man Jay. No misty, no eyes right here. Come bring his love lever.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, the level.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, the level up right, and that's it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I ain't gonna see that little bubble hit the middle. He got it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Exactly.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

He's like, all right, you got it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I do got a drill, though. I do got a drill.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I think he got the drill. Just in case he like, I get one of you, I clap you and you live. Imma drill your ass. That's not the print. Never know when you had a drill.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Some though, you know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, usually fill up or fly. You be feeling like a major limit sitting there like this. That's why I know I couldn't. I wouldn't have survived, man, if this didn't work. I wouldn't have survived.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So the game, the game gave. Gave us all opportunity to feed our families and, you know, make our parents proud, you know, fact. And do things that we never dreamed of doing, like, you know, traveling. We've been to Japan five times, you know, Africa, like real tours, European tours, and you know, just off of music.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, and. And what you said, like just kicking off on that, making them proud, bro. Rest in peace, you know, I know you lost your mom not too long ago, man. You know, you do the main old day or birthday on swastika, right? Every year and then it be one of the illest turnouts because all my is there. I hear it all the time. No matter where I'm at night. I don't call anybody in Brooklyn what you thought they are at may know.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This is so easy.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I love that you do that for the community. Yeah, we gotta do that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, we gotta do that. So the, the. The main old day is a real day. Like I'm actually got the day from the city. The city gave me the day because I was going in my hood, I was doing the coach rides. I was, you know, I was doing as much as I could for hood and just trying to, you know, get. Get that motivation. So I. They really gave me the day, you know, the Brooklyn broad president. So I didn't want it just to be like, you know, like a day and we just throw a basket. I wanted to do something meaningful. Yeah. So I was like, yeah, we need to block these streets off. I'm going to have a stage set up over here for the, for the local artists. I want to have, you know, stuff for the kids. I want to have vendors. I want to have. It's like a. A block party. Festival event, Give back for kids. So, you know, it's. It's huge. Okay. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I block off.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I block off green all the way to Lafayette.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I know it's to your lots, bro. They talk about it in the paper.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Radio. Yeah. News coverage, everything. That's amazing. You've been doing that, I think. What is this your fourth?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Merry said gonna be the third. It's gonna be a third.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Yeah, man. See, that's amazing, bro. We need more people like that, that wanna, you know, show the community.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It's other ways, because I feel like we were shown. We were shown in a negative way, but we still was shown because think about it, the drug dealers and I ever was getting money, indeed, they was getting money, and that's what made us want to get money. Like, wait, we ain't know what to do with the money. Remember, we knew we needed to get money. And that's for, like, we the generation, showing the young kids who getting money what to do with the money.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I tell. I tell your little niggas, I'm like, yo, look, your opportunity was way greater than mine.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Niggas only had when I was your age, Nays only had cracking the gun for me.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact. You asked for some advice. Here you go, cracking him down.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Right?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So that was. That was our opportunity. Right?

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You got to not just tell somebody. I feel like the lessons that was taught to us was like, yo, you.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Got to do the right thing.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And you gotta. If you gonna tell me to put down what I'm. What I'm doing, give me something else, Fred.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Show me, show me, show me. Better than you could tell.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And that that still applies. I can't just tell these kids. Stop chilling, going chill, stop whatever you.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Go, Alec, put the gun down. Back. Man set up. You was just like me.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

His homes on drugs. He ever met his father. He lived with his grandmother. He in a gang. It's the same story. So you gotta actually give them something. And the problem is we don't have no more centers and stuff like that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Remember that I was out of the.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Voice club and imca.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

All of that. Maybe kidding me? I just happen to school all of that. The shit, the BRC out there, East New York, all of that, man, there's no more sinners. You right. Shit, it ain't even no Yogi Bear.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I'm a Yogi Bear, yo.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You know, I found. You know, I found out that that was one family who funded that that wasn't from the city. Really? Yes, that was one family. Like as if you and your wife or me and my wife just paid. That was One family who funded.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

We need to shine light on them because they. Between that and free lunch.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

In the summertime.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Oh, my God. Really?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Beer came what Saturday morning? Saturday mornings it was.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

But I am up front. That bus ride, you had to be certified.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It was rough.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They just was taking your can be. It was rough. You had to be certified.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah. We going all the way to Bushwick, right? Yeah, it was rough. Yeah. Oh, stop.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's the fact. The whole sit down with that bus like this. What you got? What's in that bag now?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Now you think about it. WB was kind of led into what spoff it. We feel like later on, you understand.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, that bus ride was serious. Then you get to the center member everybody from all the hoods in there. Yeah. You were just two, three homies. They linked up. Y' all need to go get cool. Or a lot of relationships and plugs came out of Yogi Bear.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I got cool. I got cool with a lot of. A lot of. A lot. A lot of other kids from nog. Yeah. Yeah. In Yogi Be. I guess we was on the same route, you know.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Like Yogi Bear was that. And you talking about free lunch man, now. Yo, bro, Big Apple was it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Remember? They were.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, this was the time when they were shut down. What was it? I think it was the junior high schools because it was 33. Even higher.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

70, but even certain public schools because my public school. 256.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yep.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Was open across the street from Marcy Poole. He has too much in there.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo. Yo, you see, I always joke. I always said I wanted to be in the era of how did Marcy pool become Marcy Pool? And it's not in Marcy.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Marcy Avital.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, but it's decal.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Now, listen, Marcy pool. Oh, we was. Oh, you tell you Marcy. Oh, the Marcy pool was rough.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You. Would you lose your sneakers, everything if you wasn't certified?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Listen.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And you took them sneakers off. It got in that pool. You got out. You walked home.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

He was in there fighting. We was in Marcy pool. Fighting everywhere. Fighting the lifeguards. Like, you was in there. Oh, my God. It was robberies going down like it was. Oh, injuries, yes.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Now that I heard, they got it on the timer now.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Remember you in the Metropolitan pool? Cause remember Metropolitan?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's the inside one. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They used to let everybody there to give a time. Like. Yeah, I ain't have a. Y' all come back at 2:30. Yeah, I heard that's how they go. Yeah, I didn't Know that?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, we used to actually go to Marcy pool when it was closed. When it was closed.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Climb the gate. Climb the gate. Be in there with your little joint.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

And cops come around.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Flashing the flashlight. You know, they had another part that was closed off, I guess it was open years ago. Right. The deepest point was the deep. Right. And it had. We used to play on the top of that. The Fed, they have fence on top. And we used to.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Was where I never got.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So I fence.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. I ain't never get on the.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

One of the homeless. And it was dirty in there. One of the homeless stopwatches. Yeah, one of my homies dropped his stopwatching and. And went in there and got it.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Oh, yes.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It was filthy.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

He a savage. Yo, I ain't gonna front. One of the wildest pools I ever been to in Brooklyn is best pool in Brownsville.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I remember that was work now, you know. That was worse than mossy pool.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I know that was. Listen, I was too young to be certified. I was in there with my cousins in them. I used to be in there. Yo, bro. Rest in peace, Shaw Price Ruck Steel, my cousin. Yo, bro, these niggas used to be in there going crazy, wowing. And I'm a shorty. Just like. I remember one day sitting in Vetsy at pool. I'm sitting there with my mom's just on the couch on one of the little bleacher stands. We on the towel. Whatever. A nigga climbed over the fence in a hoodie, jeans. Timbs jumped in the pool, swam to the other side, got out and walked out. Yo. Oh, mommy. I was a shorty. Like, yo, what was wrong? What's wrong with the horse? Me. Yeah, he was hot as.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, he was from Brownsville.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Yeah, different.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So usa.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Different birds, different DNA.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a Different people.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Different DNA. Brownsville, East New York, yo, different.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I used to tell people, because, you know, going to school, growing up in Brooklyn, that's one thing. Go. You know, in the summer when you go back to school, you know, all the kids used to be like, the teacher be like, yo, so what y' all did this summer? You know, a lot of kids be like, yeah, I was in Virginia with my cousins. You asked the phrase. I was in drove. Yo, my. He was in the field like that. Oh, my God. I spent my soul. Tilden, Marcus Garvey and Rock.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You know, that was like a third world country, bro.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It was another world.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Mother gas thing still look crazy. So imagine what it was like then.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, it was, yo, bro, it was the terror dome, though. My grandma's God bless her soul, bro. My grandmas used to pull out the Bible when I used to be like, I'm going outside. Or mommy. She used to be uncut. Y' all better watch him.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You gotta think, though.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It was what it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

What it. What it. What it was for a mother or grandmother fall in the 80s that had kids in the ghetto. It was no phones.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Nope. Was no cameras.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

There was no cameras. You let your kids go out, you could just. All you had to do was. All you could do is pray that they made a hell.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right. And it was. Yo, bro, basketball. That's my first time seeing a body. Was in the ville, a hundred percent. That's where walking the fence was the. But you was a shorty. Like, yeah, I'm on my ninja. Let's walk the fans. I see two arguing. But in Brownsville back then, they had like, the logs. It was like the tree. Like a tree cut out. And it was the logs around.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

So I'm walking that and I see two arguing with, like, nine in the morning. I'm the only outside. They arguing. I ain't paying no attention to it. I get around the other side. So I just hear. Say what? Take that. And then they know I'm thinking, no, no, he run off. It's like, yo, it's nothing. It's cool. They arguing. Homie run off. It's cool. Y' all get around, walk around, may not look. The had a knife in his neck. Yo, bro, I jumped down and ran to the crib with Joe, my cousin. Yo, T. White. Yo, I think they just stabbed somebody. And we come out and, bro, body in the. Yeah, body in the park.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And then that's what police used to be like. Anybody saw anything? I ain't. Cause you better not tell them. I saw. I wasn't outside.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Why he was on camera. Yo, it was the only way.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

First time ever seeing it go down. And I was like, oh, he left.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

The knife in his neck was crazy. That's a gangster, though.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Left it in his neck.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

If you leave your knife in a neck, you definitely agree. Gangster. You. You a whole killer.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

For real.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Leaving it there. You gotta understand when leaving a knife in a left.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's what I'm saying. You left your prince everything as a kid. I ain't think nothing of it. But now it's like, safe. Dad, he wanted to go down me.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's a bad though.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, he was on some. They was see that now. Oh, he Caught, you know that all his DNA forensic. His ass is booked, man. Yeah, that was my first. First time seeing it go down. It was probably like 9, my G. Like what the word. But back to this, man. So me like, when it's all said and done, man, like, you did so much, my G. From the movement, like I said, from being incarcerated, coming home, taking over the gang, the media space, everything. When it's all said and done. What you want people to say about main people, though?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's what I'm building now, bro. Legacy. I feel like. I feel like I haven't done enough still work. Because damn, it's still working progress, you know, everybody's story different, but I feel like now we talking about legacy. So now when we talk about main O Day, that's legacy.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

The music is in. Entertainment is. You know, you could do all that and pass away. They won't.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

They won't remember you.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But when you doing things like what I'm doing, man, all day and. And building some stuff, that's legacy, you understand? Like that's.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's gonna be here when you're gone. 100 music, too.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Me correct music will be there right where they may. They may not remember you. It's you, right? Like, and what for something, right? Like what.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Who are you?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Like, why should my kids know about you? Because you had a couple songs, but too many rappers, nigga. Yeah, you understand, so.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

But you different. But you're not in that. Too many rappers. You made an impact. My job and trust, and I'm trying.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

To keep making an impact that's gonna last forever, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You did, bro. You did make an impact. It's going to last forever for Brody Straw. Like, my. What you did for Brooklyn.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Just even.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Just think of. Fuck the rap game. Let's think of how many niggas came out of Brooklyn to even be on that list. For our name to be on that list to be mentioned. We accomplished something we didn't even think was possible, bro.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Because it wasn't.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, it wasn't.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It was fucking.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

We did the impossible, literally.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

What you mean you gonna come home and rap?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Even our mom said that. Even my mom's used to be like, boy, put that notebook away. You told you better put out that homework. I bet you moms won't ever utter those words to me now. She like, pull that book back out.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Bad like I used to get on. My brother was my number one hater.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Really?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

What I used to be like, yo, Dre, how this sound? They could be Like I should sound like a pack ass. You trash. Yep. But my brother used to on me. It wasn't until I dropped mine right. With him and his.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So this is even after you was.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Literally Bleak is all that. You trash. I'm telling you, my brother was a hater. Me and my brother used to fight all the time, bro. That's right. Biggest hater. So that's why I know if he likes something, it's really, really.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It was one of my favorite songs. I grew up just a regular cat, my brother. That's one of his favorite, y', all, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That. That song. Caleb out, man. Shout Out Jay Runner and what you think of that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I love what you think of that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And yo, them two songs you bringing up is crazy because there's a movie behind both of those songs, man. Rest in peace, my man. Skins from Marcy, you know what I mean? That's how regular cat came about. That's why I say the. He was a dude from the hood. Nobody had to, like. Nobody seemed to like him. That was my dog. So nobody had to like him. Like, he was. He was one of those. But he was one of my guys. You know how, like, everybody. Parents try to tell your mom, yo, your son should hang with him. I'm like, he was trying to kill him. He's getting. It's like, think I don't care what. That was my dog. And that's how that song came about. Because I lost the homie. And what you think of that? Shout out to Buck. Wow. Buck Wild did that. And we. That was supposed to be the first single. There was no Myth Bleak is.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I went all like. Did y' all put it out as a single first, though?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, it came as a second.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It came. Oh.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

After Myth Bleak is the story about that is we couldn't clear the sample. They wasn't clearing the sample. It was no J verse on it or nothing. I had three verses on. What you think of that? So then Jay. We took one of my verses off. Jay heard the record like, yo, I'm gonna put a verse on there. He put a verse on it. They cleared the sample. And we already did the video. And then MF Bleak is already. So that's why we went with that first. Crazy.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

No. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Now your business.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Oh, yeah. I was. I was. I was sitting back, you know, being a student of the game, my brother.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You know, definitely trying to, you know, show my reach, you know, because that was back then when the game everybody was on. Some major, major gangster, you know, everyone.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Job. Was Lincoln a Lot. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I Steal My Brother. Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That song on his album, Murder for Life.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Murder for Life. Rest in peace, Irv Gandhi. He produced Android. Yeah. Murder. Whole Life Was it.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

God, that first Ja Rule album is classic. I love that album.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Classic.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I don't think a lot of people give him credit.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Oh, my God.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It's like they erased that for Jai and just remember, like, put it on like a girl records. Yeah, they know. It's like. They didn't.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But he had melody and all that on that, right?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It was different.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

He was different. There was more street.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, that album was different.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That album, I think, is my favorite Ja Rule album, Man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You know that album was it I told y' all to this day, bro. That's my dog. That album just, you know, once he got that commercial success, he went to it like, you gotta take. So that commercial, that record with tk, man, you TK just plays my. You know what I mean? Got that gray boy back to Brooklyn. Yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

What one back?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. I'm saying let you get that radio run. They has a different look.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Different. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's why I be trying to tell the artist that that viral YouTube, Spotify, you got a million streams is lit. But that radio hit run is different.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah. You know, it's nothing compared because it's like they can't escape you. No. So nowadays. Nowadays you got artists that are like stars, but you'll be like, I don't. I never heard of him. I don't know his music.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yes.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

When you. When you on that radio, and it's like city to city, national, hands down, undeniable smash record. Nobody can escape you. Nope.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You coming.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

They all know where you is.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You coming on morning, on the night, whether you requested it or not.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It's rapid.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

That's the difference.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

And that's why I tell these kids, man, that's what you want to experience. Because that's what, bro, I send you that.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

He might not ever experience that. Because the game is so different nowadays with them.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Because these kids this. They. They on the ready. Yeah, yeah.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yes, bro. He might right you.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You. We need the DJs. Remember? DJs and the rapper go together, bro. Right? It's like a center and a point guard.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

A point guard ain't without a good power forward or center, and they ain't without a good point guard. It all goes together, bro. It's teamwork.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

But now, because of YouTube streaming platforms, the radio is not the place where. Where. Where people discover new music from no more.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No. Because you don't have to. You got. You could just put your music to your fans where it's cool. But radio still pays the most, bro. Look at a publishing check. Put it like this.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

What's up, mix?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. What's the company for the digital stuff?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

The sound exchange, bro. That's all digital.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

My sound exchange check is never. Not like what, ASCAP or bmi.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right. Because it's all radio. But sound exchange can be good if you went all the digital. Yeah, right. So I mean, I just think the feeling of having that. That radio smash and you not being nobody escaping you, you know, is just different. Different what it feels like nowadays, it's like you lit, you got. You got all these streams, but everybody don't even know who you are.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Because remember, the promoters ain't on Spotify. They not on YouTube.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I think that's starting to change though. Look at. Look at NBA young Boy.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, NBA Young boy is a phenomenon. That's a difference. Some people start.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Yeah, he's anomaly.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yes. They just. It's just they have to set the new for the new. It's the one that pushed the envelope for everybody else to follow. Now what people follow up is pause. As big as what NBA did. Who knows?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Maybe not this, maybe not bigger, but. But they now they realize. I think that they realize now that these kids can actually be stars in their own right without the radio.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

But it's a difference with NBA, because remember his influence. And this is just my opinion. Like, I don't know too many NBA young boy records, but I know who the NBA youngboy is. So that means his influence is bigger than the music, Right? More kids want to be him. I go outside, all these niggas look.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Like him being him with it, with the music. Resonates, though, to the concert, No?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I see the videos. 48, 000 in the Barclays, bro.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

In the bar place.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, first of all, hold on. You want to talk.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

How is that there?

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I didn't even know we had that many y ends in Brooklyn.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

This is what I'm pointing.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

I'm looking at the videos. Like where the these wires be at?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I knew three or four records. Everything else, they going crazy word for word. Some of my. Some of my young boys live in diebot, yo.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, I know he's the so out. I. I relate.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

So. But what I'm saying is that that mode of. Of not having radio hits and. And being so strong online is here.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

No, definitely. It's definitely. I'm just saying the pay is different once they figure out how to compensate artists equally for the stream.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

They know.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Like, they know broadcasting does.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Streams ain't about nothing. Like, they're not.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Because there's no. It's like, I don't know.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

I don't burn streams. And you're 35.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying, bro. And think how many artists go get a billion stream.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Right, Right.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

It's not gonna happen for any. Like, it's not gonna happen.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Oh, the game, in that way is definitely. Is done.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Today. So just. What would you. What's. What's your words to the generation coming behind you? What would your message be to them before we get up out of here?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Keep going, man. Keep going. Take it to another level.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Take whatever was already done to another level, you know, and. And live, man.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Just so so you know. You know, when we young, it's just like, we don't see the world the way we see it now. So a lot of these young, they think being young is like, is they gonna get an award for it? You should want to be one of these niggas one day.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Because the name of the game is to grow. Live.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Get old, not die young.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Still, man. Name of the game is the grow. Okay? That's a fact. Right?

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You should want to.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Ladies.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Ain't nothing more cool than being alive right now, bro.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact, bro.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Ain't nothing more cooler than being alive, being free, getting money. Ain't nothing more cooler than that.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yo, I. I say it all the time, man. Like, I give, bro. I give all the money away so some of my homies could see the. That I lost as a kid. Can see some of this I done live. You know what I mean? I give all this back. If the mansion, they come back and live this with me, and we'll go get it together. That's right. And that's what I. These kids better know, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Living, live.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Live, man. Enjoy this life. We only here for a minute. That's it. When that number get called, that's it. Can't put that call on hold.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Ain't no more. Ain't no space.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah. Ain't no. I' ma call you back. Be hitting the call, y' all call you back.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

It's over. So live.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

You should.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You should. You should embrace, you know. You know, getting further in your journey.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's right.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

You understand, like, because that is what we supposed to be doing anyway.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

That's a fact, man. That's love, man. I appreciate you Pulling up. But you know, yeah, brother, man, you know what it is. Yeah, we got real Brooklyn in the building, kobj, you know what it is. We outside, man, and it's rock solid. And we always gonna be solid. And you know when you see Maine, he wanted the last solid left out here, man. So put that respect on them and show that love. He honorary Rockefeller member. Cause I said so. Tell at me, man.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Get my shame. Get my shame.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Yeah, baby.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Leave my la dog.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

Appreciate love for life, bro.

[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

Love for life.

[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Interviewer/Host (Possibly Dre or Dwayne)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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[Main Guest - Rapper/Artist (Possibly Maino)]

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