Max B | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Summary

ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek: Max B Episode Summary

Podcast: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek (The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts)
Episode: Max B | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek
Release Date: March 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of ROC Solid is an exclusive, unfiltered sit-down between host Memphis Bleek and the legendary “Wave God” Max B. They dive deep into Max B’s journey, musical innovation, the Harlem wave, his years in prison, impact on today’s artists, the power of staying consistent, and potential for future collaborations. The conversation is rich with stories, reflections on New York hip-hop history, and frank wisdom for the next generation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Early 2000s NYC and Coming Up in Hip-Hop

• Max B’s Perspective on Harlem’s Rise:
  • Max B recalls seeing his peers blowing up musically while he was incarcerated early on.
    • "I just was locked up, looking at everything happen and I was like, I know them niggas. I can get in." ([04:16])
• His Introduction of the “Wave” Concept:
  • Max B explains how the phrase “riding the wave” replaced negative terms in the culture.
    • "How about nigga riding the wave? ... when you hear the wave...he appreciating the music. That's what it is." ([09:10])
• DVD Era & Mixtape Grind:
  • Max B was influential in the underground scene, dominating the DVD and mixtape circuits with his raw street energy and distinctive melodic style.
    • On the process behind mixtapes like “Public Domain”: "I just was trying to put me out there, you know, give the people just a taste, a snippet of who I am." ([07:22])

2. Musical Style and Impact

• Innovation of Melodic Rap:
  • Bleek recognizes Max B’s impact on today’s melodic trends; Max is humble, credits those who came before him.
    • “When you listen to today's artists, everything is melodic now... Do you feel like you get the credit for setting that blueprint?” ([09:56])
    • Max B: “Nah. Because before me, there was others. There was hov, there was Nas... I still learned from them. I still took their formulas." ([10:23])
• Consistency and Work Ethic:
  • Max B’s relentless output despite time away, dropping new music immediately upon release.
    • “You one of the most...more consistent. Especially...taking that time off. To see you come home, drop a mixtape, the album with French. Then now...another mixtape, another album.” ([12:22])
    • Max B: "I don't complain. I don't cry. I don't bitch. I don't make excuses. I just go out there, get after it, and do what it do." ([12:09])

3. The Prison Years and Return

• Surviving and Creating While Incarcerated:
  • Max B shares about maintaining focus and writing music throughout his 18-year prison stint.
    • “I worked in prison the whole time. I had my own studio in prison. Had a studio in my cell, had a workstation in my cell.” ([26:15])
    • “I never stopped writing...Even the times I was, you hear it. I release music in prison.” ([26:38])

4. Legacy & Guidance for the Next Generation

• OG Responsibility:
  • Max B addresses the role of older artists in leading and guiding younger ones.
    • "We gotta be the big homies. And we gotta lead them to right step in. We gotta hold them accountable... bridging the gap." ([27:45])
    • "You got drip. You a fly nigga...At the end of the day, you are what you are, nigga. You're 40, be 40. You're 50, be 50. Own it." ([29:29])

5. Max B’s New & Upcoming Projects

• Million Dollar Baby Series and New Collaborations:
  • New installment drops Monday, packed with features (2 Chainz, Larry June, Curren$y, French, etc.)
    • "Million Dollar Baby was going dumb in the streets." ([22:08])
    • "Dropping Monday. A new one, Bang for your buck...I got Two Chains, I got Larry June..." ([22:13])
• Upcoming Album with French Montana:
  • “Me and French dropping the album. April 25th. Cosmos.” ([22:52])

6. Industry Reflection & Reconciliation

• Beef with Jim Jones & Possibility of Collaboration:
  • Bleek asks bluntly if a truce/collab could ever come. Max B is pragmatic:
    • "If it makes sense and it makes money, then it makes big vow. Anything else is uncivilized. I don't give a fuck." ([31:10])
    • “We can go in the lab and make history, yo, but just make it make sense, Swizz.” ([34:05])
• On His Own Legacy:
  • Max speaks to the pride in surviving incarceration and returning strong.
    • “The proudest moment for me, Just being able to come home after 75 years, after you get convicted of prison, and to be able to still be in the business and be productive.” ([24:48])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On His Influence:
  • “I just wanna give the people good shit. That they can live with, that they can stay with, that they can have for years to come.” — Max B ([05:04])
• On Resilience:
  • "I don't complain. I don't cry. I don't bitch. I don't make excuses. I just go out there, get after it, and do what it do. And this is the result." — Max B ([12:09])
• On OG Wisdom:
  • "The more you own it, the better it look. The more you try to be not what you is, the worse you look." — Max B ([29:51])
• On Reconciliation with Jim Jones:
  • “If it makes sense and it makes money, then it makes big vow. Anything else is uncivilized. I don't give a fuck. Cause guess what? I'm doing well and I'm giftedly crafted and my shit is up to speed.” — Max B ([31:10])
• On His Prison Work Ethic:
  • “I worked in prison the whole time. I had my own studio in prison...I never stopped writing.” — Max B ([26:15])

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Key Timestamps

• 03:10 – Introduction & Max B reflects on early 2000s NYC hip-hop
• 04:48 – Bleek asks about Max B’s unique melodic style
• 07:22 – Conversation about mixtape grind and underground scene
• 08:17 – On the lasting impact and “Wave” influence
• 10:23 – Credit to predecessors and humility about impact
• 12:22 – Discussion of post-prison work ethic and output
• 15:11 – Story behind hit record “Death On The Bitch” with French Montana
• 21:40 – Where to start if you’re new to Max B: Public Domain & Million Dollar Baby series
• 22:52 – Announcement of new album “Cosmos” with French Montana
• 26:15 – Detailing of writing and recording during prison years
• 27:38 – Advice for younger generation, importance of mentorship
• 31:05 – On reconciling past beefs, especially Jim Jones
• 34:05 – Possibility of a Versus, future collaborations, and closing hype

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Additional Highlights

• Max B’s Sons Playing Him in a Movie?

  • "Man, I got two boys, 17 and 18. They can play me...just like O’Shea Jackson played Ice Cube." ([23:43])

• The Evolution of the Game:

  • Max B notes how the industry and the money have changed, and the importance of staying sharp and setting an example.

• Max B’s Philosophy:

  • “I just be myself. I stick to the script. I stick to what I love. I support my family, my kids, my wife, my niggas, and I just keep it pushing.” ([30:01])

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Recap & Takeaways

This episode stands out as a bold chronicle of Max B’s impact on the hip-hop scene, both past and present. His humility, work ethic, and unwavering love for music anchor the conversation, while Bleek’s genuine admiration keeps the tone authentic and celebratory. Listeners are left inspired by Max’s resilience, candid wisdom, and his open stance about future collaborations—even with past rivals.

Whether you’re a long-time Max B fan or just discovering him, this episode is a masterclass in staying original, owning your journey, and always keeping it "ROC solid."

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For Max B’s music:
Start with the Public Domain mixtape series, followed by Million Dollar Baby. Watch out for the new album “Cosmos” with French Montana dropping April 25th, and a new Million Dollar Baby tape out Monday!

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[Memphis Bleak]

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[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, y', all. You already know what it is. Back with another exclusive. Yours truly, M. Greasy with the legendary wave God, you. When you talk of Harlem, when you talk of this music that moved New York City early 2000s, you cannot mention it without mentioning the Waveguard. Let's welcome my GMAX B to the building. What's up?

[Max B]

My God, the Tangerine Dream got this legendary. And I got the cheat code.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

Down, down. Left, right, left, right. A B start.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill. That was the motherfucking. That was the what? What?

[Max B]

Yo, what game?

[Memphis Bleak]

Contra. Yeah, he did Infinity Lives. That was Contra. Up, down, yo, chill. He had niggas with the old Nintendo code, my nigga. Let's get into it, yo. So early 2000s, you know what I'm saying? Like, New York was on fire. My G, Dipset was just making they move, taking over the city. And here come the waveguard. Max B, what was that like back then for you, my G?

[Max B]

I just was locked up, looking at everything happened and I was like, I know them niggas. I can get in. That was my situation.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn, that's dope, man. So you. This was a case prior to the

[Max B]

situation when I was locked up in like 2002, 2003, about to come home. I seen a bunch of niggas in the magazine that I knew that was making music.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, yeah.

[Max B]

I was like, yo, this is a no brainer. I know all these niggas. I'm gonna get in fast. Yeah, that's how that went.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, my G. So when you first started recording, did you realize the melodic style that you was using was different from everybody else? Or was that something you planned? Like, I'm gonna come take over this my shit.

[Max B]

I just wanna be productive. Bleep. Look, I just wanna give the people good shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

That they can live with, that they can stay with, that they can have for years to come.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. You did. You did that. Because, my G, why you was locked up before you got locked up? Let's just get back to the 2000 DVD. Come up smack, you know what I mean? Shout out to any nigga dvd I forgot, you know what I'm saying? Come up, the coke boys. Cause French was. You know what I mean? French was behind the lens back then. You know what I mean? Like those DVDs you had them shits on Smash. Anything underground was Max B. Man. Like, I know that had to feel like some type of championship. Like, nigga, I made it. Like, was it ever a moment you felt that?

[Max B]

It's moments like this right here where I can go back and say that shit meant something.

[Memphis Bleak]

So you ain't one of them niggas that dwell on the past? You like. Nah, I focus right now. That's dope.

[Max B]

I love this too much.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's dope.

[Max B]

And I love what I do for the people. You hear me? Like you for. For instance, you a. When I was younger, just coming up like. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with, bro. So to be here at this spot, that's a big moment. I appreciate I. Trevor.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, man, I appreciate it, bro. Cause I'm a fan, you know what I mean? Like, a lot of people I welcome on this platform. It ain't just like, I wanna know your story. I really fuck with you if I wanna know your story.

[Max B]

You fuck with a nigga, you bring

[Memphis Bleak]

em up, you know what I'm saying? Like, you a solid nigga. I welcome you here. So back then, like I told you when we was on Drink Champs, the perm guard out there with the wave tank top on, belt ain't even buckled. They got about 30 grand in his hand talking shit. They ain't outside, they don't want it. I'm a fan of that shit. I love that. Cause we all from that era and that's that grind that got us here. So, you know what I mean? Like during the Public Domain mixtape, man, you was going hard, man. What was that process like?

[Max B]

I just was trying to put me out there, you know, put myself out there, give the people just a taste, a snippet of who I am. Yeah. And you know, domain is one of my ways to do ain't nothing else. Yeah, that's like a mixtape series that when I go in on that, this Max, this, this Max in a rare

[Memphis Bleak]

form, like, you know everybody. I want to definitely welcome you home, ig, because, you know, I know you was dealing with some real shit, but I know it had to feel some type of like triumph knowing how hard French was out here fighting for you. Everybody was fighting for you. And then to see the impact you put with all the new artists out here. Cause bro, Your impact is insane. Like, a lot of people out here, they want to be the Wave man. So how that feel? You gonna start your own unit? The Wave unit. Everybody get down and lay down.

[Max B]

It's love. Bleak. Like, I'm humbled that people fuck on my shit to this day. I'm humbled that even though I did 18 years in prison, people still fuck with my shit to this day. That's a blessing.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Max B]

So I just appreciate it. I respect it. I got love for the people. I got love for my fans. And this who I do it for. Nobody else.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. Like, you know, I say it. You even got me saying it the way, you know, everybody. Every borough got they shit. You know what I mean? Brooklyn, his son, Queens. It was done. Harlem. Now y' all got the wave, my

[Max B]

G. Yeah, I got it. Hot, hot. Get over it. Y' all got it.

[Memphis Bleak]

How was that like for you, Korea? Was that something just in the student just like, man, fuck, man. I'm the waveguard. That was like, nah.

[Max B]

What I was saying was this. I was like, damn. Everybody's saying like, pause. No, yo, bro, on my dick, bro. I'm like, nah, we ain't gonna do that. How about nigga riding the wave? We ain't gonna say dick ride no more. How about wave ride? How about and the wave? Just came in on some. That's how I came in. You know what I'm saying? So when you hear the wave or, yo, bro, dick is not dick riding. Bro riding the wave. He appreciating the music. That's what it is.

[Memphis Bleak]

See, that's another reason why I love doing this shit, my G. Cause I had no idea it was the opposite of dick ride n riding the wave.

[Max B]

Nah, chill.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's a lot of N riding the wave, my G. Like, you fucking kidding me? That shit is in the vocabulary now. That's added for sure, my G. When you listen to today's artists, everything is melodic now. Everybody sing, everybody harmonize. You know, it's a lot of pain, a lot of struggle. You know, a lot of these young kids. Do you feel like you get the credit for setting that blueprint?

[Max B]

Nah. Because before me, there was others. There was hov, there was Naj, Yeah,

[Memphis Bleak]

but they wasn't harmonizing.

[Max B]

But I still learned from them.

[Memphis Bleak]

No, that's a fact.

[Max B]

We all know I still learned from them. I still learned from Naho. I still learned from them. I still took their formulas and whatever they. I took a grab a piece from that and I work on. So all that shit Count. You know what I'm saying, man?

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what's up, man. What surprised you most about hip hop that changed since you been home?

[Max B]

What surprised me most about hip hop to this day right now? That. Listen, we a young gang. Mm. We not even 50 years old.

[Memphis Bleak]

I think we are hip hop just celebrating 50 years right there.

[Max B]

Yeah, we right there. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

And correct me if I'm wrong, y'.

[Max B]

All.

[Memphis Bleak]

You know we smoke weed up here.

[Max B]

Just us being in that stratosphere and me being able to tap into that. I'm with the shit. Yeah. Know what I'm saying? I'm with the shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo. Like, you came straight home. Straight to the jets game, straight to the studio. Straight. Or the jet to hit Minx. Like you feel like you still on that high or you. You got time to settle yet?

[Max B]

Did. Did you really get to that reality? I just do what I do, Bleak. I never was on high.

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[Memphis Bleak]

That's just life.

[Max B]

And this what niggas is. Oh, Max. I never was on the high. I come out. I wake up every day. I execute. I get it done. I go about my business.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

I don't complain. I don't cry.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

I don't bitch. I don't make excuses.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

I just go out there, get after it, and do what it do. And this is the result.

[Memphis Bleak]

You one of the most. I don't want to say workaholic or worker. More consistent. Especially, like, taking that time off. You know, A lot of rappers, even like myself, niggas get lazy n get lax. And then to see you come home, drop a mixtape. The album with French. Then now you working on another mixtape and another album.

[Max B]

Drop Monday. Another one.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm saying. I know I'm lazy. Like how you ain't lazy, as Jay would say. As Jay would say, you bullshitting with the bars. Bleak. Like, yo,

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[Max B]

That.

[Memphis Bleak]

A little bit of that, too. And the Doucet, you know what I mean? Got me chill, chilling a little bit. But what give you the motivation to just keep going, knocking them joints out like that?

[Max B]

Just the money.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

The fact that after all this time, niggas still fuck with me. That's a drive for me right there.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah.

[Max B]

So I don't care. Bleak. I just go out there and eat, man. Yeah. I feel like the whole world is the Internet. You could do what you want. Nobody stopping nothing.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. It's a free world now.

[Max B]

When I came out, I was like this. Yeah, Lil P, I came out, I was like this.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, you ain't lying. It is easy. They opened it up and made it easy for. Nigga.

[Max B]

I'm not gonna. I said this.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, bro, I used to be telling these artists when we had the label warehouse. I used to be telling these niggas, yo, bro, if I had it like this, bro, I would have been able to do XYZ. Nigga, I'm 40 years.

[Max B]

This is easy.

[Memphis Bleak]

Give me 20 years back. I'll show you. N what like. And n looking at me like bleak. What you mean? It's like, nigga, you get to promote yourself. You have fans following you, watching you. All you gotta do is drop the heat.

[Max B]

Go out there. Go out there and get a good old work. Yeah, good music. Just get after it.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep, good music changes. I tell everybody every day, man, it only take one record to change your whole family's trajectory, bro. It's insane.

[Max B]

I used to be in jail listening to the tapes. I was in prison listening to the tapes. So for me to be sitting here right now, it's a privilege. It's an honor. You know what I'm saying? It's some love shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, man.

[Max B]

I respect it. Like.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, let's talk about when death on the bitch, man. That's the motherfucking. I don't want to say the something. That's the year record. If y' all niggas don't win a Grammy for that shit, they rig the votings. Like, that's how hard that record is, my G. What was your mindset? I know we talked about it before, but my people probably ain't hear it.

[Max B]

I don't make hit records. I make records, but, nah, them shits is hits. I don't know. That's probably the weakest part of my game.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, chill.

[Max B]

So when you got a nigga like French, my brother, he comes to me, he go, yo, listen, close the door. Get all these niggas out the room. I got something for you. He opens a fucking. This is for us. What's that? It's a hit record. I've been holding this for you.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, French are good niggas.

[Max B]

Like Jumanji. You remember when Jumanji opened the box,

[Memphis Bleak]

he found the game.

[Max B]

Yeah. This nigga was like Jumanji opening the box for that record. And I still ain't get it. So I don't want to take credit for that record.

[Memphis Bleak]

But you got to you on it.

[Max B]

I'm on it, but I'm not gonna take the credit for it you on it. It's my boy. Shit, he said he the one that say, yo, this the one for us. So gotta get a shout, gotta get props to bro. French mother. That's bro.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. Nah, bro, he hold it down, man. I seen French come from, like I said, Coke, boys, DVDs to now touring the world, hitting your favorite.

[Max B]

What the fuck was you doing?

[Memphis Bleak]

Cause I was locked up, yo.

[Max B]

Like, when you stopped and got with this, like, yo,

[Memphis Bleak]

nigga got questions for me. I love it when you stop and did this.

[Max B]

You know like, Nori, how you fuck

[Memphis Bleak]

with this Nori, man? Yeah, I did drink champs, right? So I did drink champs. I ended up doing drink champs three times. I'm gonna keep it all the way. Fact with you. I did drink champs twice. So it was the third time, Nori calling me, yo, Bleak, I need. And I'm like, yo, my nigga, like, for what? What you gonna ask me? We spoke about everything. Nothing else. So he like, nah, trust me now. This the new Word algorithm. Now I know the algorithm, Bleak, I got it. Trust me. I'm gonna put you in there.

[Max B]

You lit.

[Memphis Bleak]

So I end up doing it. We go major viral. Listen, major viral. So now I'm like, oh, this algorithm shit is lit Word. So then Nori calling me, yo, bleep. They want you to do your own show. I'm like, and no, I'm not a journalist, my nigga. How I be asking n questions? I don't know. He like, nah, they just want you to talk your shit.

[Max B]

That's right.

[Memphis Bleak]

And talk to the niggas you fuck with and all that. And I'm like, all right, let me try it. So I did it. You know, of course,

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[Memphis Bleak]

You know how I go. When you first start, you call.

[Max B]

You probably don't even know the clout you got till you make the calls, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, my G. Yeah, you probably like, damn.

[Max B]

I know mad. I got mad niggas.

[Memphis Bleak]

The one that shocked me was Cam. And Cam said, nah, I do. It was like, I had to call my man.

[Max B]

He's like, yo, you were calling favors. Look how you calling them favors like.

[Memphis Bleak]

And niggas pop up n pulling up.

[Max B]

I pulled up, I was half dead. I forgot. I said, oh, big fella said, you got bleak. I said, oh shit. Cause she popped. You hear me? That's a fact. I was brought up like it was

[Memphis Bleak]

over, but I respect the gang, man. You super lit, man. I appreciate you even pulling up. Cause, bro, when you on fire, like

[Max B]

you on fire, yo, I don't even see it. I just work.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, you on fire, Captain.

[Max B]

I really work.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, you on fire. You see, I interview a lot of people. My nigga, my room don't be packed. My shit looking like Drake Champs right there. My shit lit back there. Shout out the homies that pulled up. Word up, man. Yo, so if somebody new discovered Max B music for the first time,

[Max B]

what

[Memphis Bleak]

would be the first record you would tell him to start with?

[Max B]

You go to domain one and you bring yourself up to speed. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and a half, 7. And it just goes on.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

You can't go. You just get up to speed with the Domain. I wanna give her some xb, get you some Domain. Then I got the million Dollar babies. One, two, three, four. I got em all, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Million Dollar Baby was going dumb in the streets.

[Max B]

Dropping Monday.

[Memphis Bleak]

A new one.

[Max B]

Yeah, a new one. Bang for your buck. Me and I, baby 4 Ow. I got two chains, I got Larry June, I got low, I got currency, I got wrenched my dog I got cocky cops. I got niggas on my shit.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, yo, listen, listen, listen, listen. Million Dollar Baby on Monday. That mean this shit dropping Tuesday. You heard? Cause we doing a million dollars baby over here. We ain't playing with her. So after Million Dollar Baby, what's next for my dog Cosmos?

[Max B]

Me and friends dropping the album. April. April 25th. Cosmos.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, I'm on some bullshit. I'm bullshitting with bars like these niggas just got project after project.

[Max B]

Y' all fucked up after project.

[Memphis Bleak]

Like, do you think about stepping into acting or anything outside of music?

[Max B]

I mean, listen, I'm always open,

[Podcast Host]

you

[Max B]

know, for different opportunities and things of that nature. I would love to act one day.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, I love to be a flashy movie come get you. Definitely. You definitely should do a documentary about your life, my G. Cause you should be doing that.

[Max B]

See, but the.

[Memphis Bleak]

It's already working.

[Max B]

We doing the Max B dot right now. But the movie is different. Yeah, it's a different.

[Memphis Bleak]

Who going? You gonna play yourself or you gonna get somebody to play you?

[Max B]

Man, I got two boys, 17 and 18. They can play me.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

Just like O'. Shea.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right. Jackson holding down Ice.

[Max B]

Ice Cube.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, his son.

[Max B]

So my boy look like me more than his boy. Damn, they can.

[Memphis Bleak]

Damn, Mom's damn Cube. Damn. Them niggas ain't swim upstream my Boy

[Max B]

look like me more than Ice Cube. Boy look like him. Come on, work with me. Let's get it.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right, man. That's a fact, man. Like, that's dope, man. I would definitely watch the Max B movie. Cause, like, I was about to say, you survived some shit. My ghost.

[Max B]

You gonna have fun.

[Memphis Bleak]

You been through some shit. You lived a hell of a life, man. You did a lot of shit, man. Like, what would you say? Cause there's a lot of life to still keep going. But looking back, what would you say was the, like, the proudest moment besides your kids? Cause that's the first thing they could say. You be like, yo, what's your proudest moment, nigga? Like, yo, my kids,

[Max B]

I tell a nigga in a minute. I love this music shit more than anything on the planet. I've said that. No offense to my babies. I love them. Everybody know. But the proudest moment for me, Just being able to come home after 75 years, after you get convicted of prison, and to be able to still be in the business and be productive.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

I'm good with that.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yep. And step back on niggas neck. Like, you never left, my nigga. Like, I know to you, it's like, nigga.

[Max B]

Cause I was on these niggas necks before. I know, but when I went in.

[Memphis Bleak]

But it's not easy, bro. Everybody don't come home. Everybody don't come home from jail.

[Max B]

Lit, listen, let me tell you some shit. I don't look at it like that, man. I look at it like this. I'm back on y' all asses.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact. You really are, though.

[Max B]

My chick straighten up. Ship up or ship the fuck.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's what I'm saying. A lot of rappers, like, I'm an artist, so I know, man. You walk in that studio, everybody think, yeah, I'm gonna make this, that shit right here, this, that joint. But to really, really come home and do it, my nigga, it's a big difference, man. We watched a lot of artists go to jail, come home, and they ain't got it no more. It's just like they lost a little step, you know what I mean? I feel like you got better, you got new flows.

[Max B]

Cause I worked in prison the whole time. I had my own studio in prison. Had a studio in my cell, had a workstation in my cell. I was wrote and writ music and rhymes from the day I was in prison. I never stopped writing.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's fine.

[Max B]

I never gave up on my craft. I love my craft.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

So you hear it. You don't not hear it.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

Even the times I was, you hear it. I release music in prison.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yeah, you definitely there. And you could tell it's hard to.

[Max B]

Sean Po. Shit, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Shit.

[Max B]

Let's Google it. Negro spiritual house money. Fuck y' all up with that. Not no Sean Post shit. Your boss, Dawn Big Bell shit. Fuck with me.

[Memphis Bleak]

You already know, man. Like, yo, yo. Seeing. Seeing. Like, how do you know the money is different now? It was money. The money was great back then, but the money is greater today. That's a fact. Got a lot of different corporations investing in this shit. You know what I'm saying? Sponsor you what? Wasn't sponsoring us. Seeing all these young boys make all this money and jeopardize it, throwing it away, going to the system. A nigga who lived that life, been through it, man. What would you say to these guys? You know what I mean? Cause there's too many young boys that's just throwing it away for nothing.

[Max B]

They just don't know. They naive. They naive to the shit we've been through.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

But we gotta be the big homies. And we gotta lead them to right step in. And we gotta hold them accountable. We gotta take initiative and bring them up. Cause we the big homies. That's a fact. They look up to us. These young niggas out here don't got nobody to look up to. When I was in Jersey jail, them old niggas didn't give a fuck about none of them young niggas in there. I'm like, why y' all niggas don't fuck with these, man, Fuck these young niggas. That was like the whole mindset. And I'm like, look, this shit make the world go round.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact.

[Max B]

The more y' all niggas step up and take the initiative and hold these young niggas accountable and we bridge the gap, the stronger we gonna be.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's a fact, man. They definitely need guidance. Cause these little is lost, man. But you know, what would you say to the little that don't listen? Cause I was a little who listened, but a lot of my homies didn't.

[Max B]

Cause it was different when we was coming up bleak. I'm 47, so we the same age. All right? The I was coming up with that. That brought me up. We looked up to them. They really had something to show us. They like, look, you all want to be like this. Look, follow this.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

These niggas out here today is like, man, fuck you. You don't want to listen to me, Fuck you. That's not the mindset.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nope.

[Max B]

You can't leave these niggas out here like that.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's why the game is not what it is, what it used to be. Man. I definitely agree. You can't leave these little on the island by themselves with no guidance.

[Max B]

You can't. They need us.

[Memphis Bleak]

A lot of these OGs, so called OGs, want to be the little.

[Max B]

Listen, it is what it is. You got drip. You a fly nigga. Right? You wear your clothes good.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

They look at you as a Y N fine. At the end of the day, you are what you are, nigga. You're 40, be 40.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

You're 50, be 50. Own it.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

The more you own it, the better it look.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

The more you try to be not what you is, the worse you look.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

So I just be myself. I stick to the script. I stick to what I love. I support my family, my kids, my wife, my niggas, and I just keep it pushing. My nigga, this shit works.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's all it tells. That's all it works.

[Max B]

Like it or love it, I don't give a fuck.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, but you know I ain't gonna hold you. I know we all got. We got busy schedules, life to live, shit to do, we got music to hear. You know what I'm saying? But I want. This is a personal question. I wanted to always know from you, like, you know, we grow, our mentality change. You got Million Dollar Baby dropping Monday. You got Cosmos on the way. You know what I mean? I know you and Jim had a major turbulent, you know, past, you know what I mean? Do you believe that in the future? Or would that. Is it a possibility that could ever be put to rest? Where you ever see a day where y' all be cordial? You don't even gotta be cool. Could be cordial.

[Max B]

If it makes sense and it makes

[Memphis Bleak]

money, it always gonna make money.

[Max B]

If it makes money and it makes sense, then it makes big vow. Anything else is uncivilized. I don't give a fuck. Cause guess what? I'm doing well and I'm giftedly crafted and my shit is up to speed. So I really don't give a fuck who on my level or not, I'm gonna do what I do. But if it makes sense and it makes money, then it makes Max bigger. Valve.

[Memphis Bleak]

I definitely believe it's gonna make money. It'll make a ton of money.

[Max B]

Kidding me.

[Memphis Bleak]

Max Bigger valid. Jim dead. The drama is bags on bags on bags on bags.

[Max B]

I get his up. His algorithm's a little.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, his lit. He been lit. He been lit. Yo, chill, chill.

[Max B]

I'm outside.

[Memphis Bleak]

He lit on the algorithms, though.

[Max B]

That smoke, I said, look what you thought. Bro in the loop. Yeah.

[Memphis Bleak]

Hell yeah. They loopy right now.

[Max B]

They loopy.

[Memphis Bleak]

They the. Listen, y' all is y'. All. So look, so I just want to say to you, before you say. I'm gonna let you say what you say, but I just want to say welcome home. From one real one to another, from a fans to a nigga that I like. Don't stop, continue to put pressure. Stay on niggas necks, my nigga. And keep the wave going. Cause you keep inspiring, my G. We the same age, but to me, Nigga, you got 10 years of youth on you.

[TextNow Announcer / Sean Duffy]

Thank you, B.

[Max B]

Thank you, my nigga.

[Memphis Bleak]

Word up, my nigga. You got anything to say before we get up out of here?

[Max B]

Listen, I got no problem with me and bro going back in the lab.

[Memphis Bleak]

That's right.

[Max B]

But his shit gotta be up. Cause my shit is next level. I'm in the Matrix. So for you to get in the lab with a nigga like me, you got to be here.

[Memphis Bleak]

I'm here.

[Max B]

It's just that simple. I'm a Libra, nigga.

[Memphis Bleak]

I ain't gonna cap Jim. I ain't gonna cap. Jim is nice now. Hold on. He nice now.

[Max B]

So, look, all y' all want to see Jim and Max Bigaval. Y' all make. Y' all make it make sense.

[Memphis Bleak]

Put the bag on the table. Put the offer up.

[Max B]

Millions of dollars. You heard. Come on in.

[Memphis Bleak]

Listen, Jim, I'm kicking the door with you. And they say they got it. Don't worry. Call me. I'm coming. You know, Big, we riding.

[Max B]

We right here, yo.

[Memphis Bleak]

Nah, we don't want them on no verses. No, we want, we want. I'm a nigga who buried the hatchet with niggas that I had problems with. And if we gonna lead the youth the right way, we gotta show them the right way.

[Max B]

Nigga don't wanna do no verses with me, though. They don't wanna do that. It's a bag. You don't wanna do verses with the big valve. Oh, shit. Cause when it comes song for song, nobody can fuck with me. So let's just call it is what it is. You don't wanna do it. Versus yo, listen, but we can go in the lab and make history, yo, but just make it make sense, Swizz.

[Memphis Bleak]

Holla at me. You know what I mean? You need a promoter. Holla at me. I'm good on both sides.

[Max B]

Hey, Swizzle. Hey, Swizzle.

[Memphis Bleak]

Yo, holl at me, Swizz. Talk to me, baby. I don't want no beat this time. Max B Jimmy the city on fire.

[Max B]

Hey, yo, yo, they do a Burg Gang 2.0.

[Memphis Bleak]

Oh, my Jesus.

[Max B]

And you see I need the money.

[Memphis Bleak]

And shout out the homie Jim. Shout out the whole bird gang, dipset. Man, Y' all niggas created a wave and forever historic. And Max, you continue to keep making history and telling your story. Like I said, my continue to keep winning.

[Max B]

Thank you.

[Memphis Bleak]

And don't stop, baby. Love for life. I appreciate you solid, my nigga.

[Max B]

You getting.

[Memphis Bleak]

You got that pl going on growing up a little bit that green, artless. I'm on my veggie diet, baby. I'm on my veggie diet. Yo, Cheech, we outside. Max, I need a drop from you.

[Max B]

What you need?

[Memphis Bleak]

I just need rock solid, baby.

[Max B]

Yo, it's your boy, Max bigaville.

[Memphis Bleak]

Get out of here.

[Podcast Host]

Hold on.

[Max B]

Shout out to my nigga Bleak. This is rock solid. We just pulled up. Max Bigavale, man. Bleak the legend.

[Memphis Bleak]

We here, nigga.

[Max B]

We outside. Rock solid. Million dollar baby, Million dollar baby coming Monday bang for your fucking buck.

[Memphis Bleak]

Million dollars on the neck, million dollars on the wrist, nigga. Fuck niggas, you heard. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at. And you can follow me on any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody frauding, flag them.

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