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All?
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This your main man? Memphis Bleak right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. Yeah, y', all, you already know what it is. Yours truly back with another exclusive rock solid podcast. Told you. Like I said before, when you see people up here, that meaning my dog a solid, and they spit us, you know, I got somebody special in the building. One of the young Harlem new guys coming up, putting in that pain. Before I even say his name, I want to give y' all a little story. Cause when I first heard him, I called my man from state property, Nef. Yo, it's a nigga in New York got your name. He like bleak. You lying. I'm like, yo, bro, you gonna have to do something about that. So I said, let me listen to the nigga music. I called Nef back. I said, yo, Neef, you got a problem? My nigga Shorty got some shit, yo. I don't know. Yo, what we. So I called my dog Cheech. He like, yo, that's my man. And then I met him, and then that's how he became my dog. So let's welcome my guy, Neek Bucks to the building. Harlem General putting in pain. And if you ain't got that pen game ready, don't step in the ring with guys like this. Cause he'll make you feel small. You already know what it is, Nick. What up?
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You know it's love, man.
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Love, bro.
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I appreciate you having me.
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Nah, my guy, you know. Come on, man. You know I fucks with you, my nigga. Off camera. You know, a lot of niggas think this should just be your cult. Call the dudes. Let's get this. Now. Niggas don't know. Off camera, we got a real relationship. You pull up in the yams, Harlem, Brooklyn. I don't care where I'm at.
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You pulling up, you know I'm coming. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Shout out to the restaurant in Vegas, bro. Showed me major love out there, you know what I mean?
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I forgot you pulled up the Rome, bro.
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You know I gotta support the bro.
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Word.
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Roma Kitchen out there putting in pain.
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Word, man.
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That's what's up, my G. So what's been up, man?
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Everything good, man. You know, I feel amazing. You know what I mean, bro? Just gassing like I told you earlier, man. Same setup. No let up.
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That's right. Same setup, no letter. I love that. I might steal that.
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Yeah. Nah, for sure.
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I don't know if it's copyright or publishing on that, but I'm jacking that one. But, Joe, like, I wanted to ask you before we get into this how? Like, with the name thing? Cause when I first heard you, of course, you know, Neef being from state, P being Rockefeller, and I'm like, neek, Buck, Neef Buck.
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Yeah.
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How did that happen?
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Nah, so you know, like, of course I ain't. I didn't name myself, bro. You know, when the Young Guns was coming up, I was a little younger. So, you know what's so crazy? I never even knew Neef. Name was Nef. Buck. I always. For me being like, young, I thought it was just Chris and Nef, you know what I mean? That's all I thought. But my real name is unique, so that's where I get the Neek from. And then one of the big bros gave me the Neek bucks. He put the bucks on the Internet because, you know, nigga was young getting to it. You know what I mean? For sure.
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Nah, that's love, Nef. He fuck with you. And that's my dog, you know, we spoke about it. You know what I mean? He know you my dog, and niggas definitely respect what you doing. But let's start back, man. Harlem, you know what I mean? Harlem got a lot. A lot of pressure, a lot of pain out there. So what was it like being the young guy coming up with all that legendary shit that took place in Harlem, trying to make your mom.
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Yeah, I mean, look, I'm from the east side, you know, I ain't grow up. I ain't one of them. I ain't one of them stories that had the cousin that had shit going on or the big brother that has. Like, I had to really, you know, make a name for myself. So, you know, this guy that I am today, you know, it came from just observing, you know, learning, you know, understanding what's right and what's wrong, you know what I mean? I come from a legendary drug block, you know what I mean? Purple City Obsession crew, you know what I mean? That's, like, my background. And, you know, bro, I just came outside, I knew I wanted to be who I am now, you know what I mean? And that's just solid individual and, you know, jump into this music shit and make my mark, bro. That's right.
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You doing it, my G. You been putting in pain, my G. So before the rap shit became serious for you, you know what I mean? What were you focused on, like, back then as a shorty, like? Cause, you know, we all ain't just started as a rapper. Like, you know, some N had hoop dreams, some N wanted to be artists, some N was graffiti artists, some niggas, break dance was in the dancing and shit like that. What was the vibe like before you even stepped foot with the Pit?
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Nah, I was definitely one of them little N s that had a hoop dream, you know what I mean? That's just what we used to do back in the days. Just play ball all day, you know what I'm saying? Shit, I understood. I was small. I understood early, though. Like, you know, that shit wasn't going nowhere. You know what I mean?
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That's a fact.
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I started fucking with the rap shit, you know, Like, I grew up watching N like you. You know what I mean?
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And Jimmy. Oh, my G, come on, man.
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Hell no. But that, like, even this right here, me sitting with you, right? This like a dream come true on some real shit, you know what I mean? Honored to say that, though. You know what I mean? To be sitting here with you, you know, years later and being able to build and you know, call you one of my guys, man.
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That's right.
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Right.
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You know that, man. You know, you can hit me whenever my dog. I'm there, man.
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Hell yeah.
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Let's ask a question. You remember the first time people in the neighborhood, like your hood, your projects, your block started really like, yo, you a real artist. Like, you could take this shit serious.
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Yeah, it was probably like 2014. I had some shit called Summertime in Harlem. I did that joint. Then I put vato on the remix, and then it was up.
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Shout out, vado, man.
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You start like, you know, like them bitches from the hood that wasn't noticing you, they start. You know what I mean? Once that shit start happening, you know what I mean? I'm like, okay, I'm here now. You know what I mean?
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That's why I missed volume one.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can only imagine.
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I was coming to Age Volume 1. I thought I was hot. Cause the chickens in the hood was on me. I'm like, oh, I made it. That's all I need. So I got clipped. And they had to realize nah is more. I made it back for volume two. So at least you ain't lose your way.
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Nah, for sure.
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You know what I mean? You stay grounded and stay grounded. Cause me, I thought, oh, they know me now. I'm good. I don't need nothing else.
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And so, I mean, then you had. You had. You had. You know, you had, like, a group of people to look at and be like, yeah, I got it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, look, my shit, Dopely. I'm like the. I'm like, it was people who came before me. But ain't nobody do this shit on my level, though, you know what I mean? Like, to where I took it, you know what I mean? And that shit came from me building. Me just building, you know what I mean?
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That's right. We gonna get into that. My G. Like, early tapes, like, el barrio, man. You know how you say el barrio? El barrio, you know what I mean? I'm from Spanish Harlem too, you know what I mean? El barrio, you know what I mean? Started putting your name on the map in rotation and shit like that. What was the grind like back then, putting that project together?
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Shout out to my big bro, Zah, he passed away. That's like, you know, that was my everything. That was my big bro. That was my. You know, like, you would probably look at Hov. That's my Hov, you know what I mean? But he ain't rap, and he was there for every step of that. He installed, you know, I'm a beast in me. Just kept, you know, feeding that energy to me and letting me know that I'm him. So, you know, me recording that project, I spent a lot of time with him. I'm still in the projects at that time. I'm just, you know, soaking everything up, enduring everything I'm going through. And yeah, bro, that's how that came. That's how that came about.
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That's crazy. You definitely built a career in the catalog. Independent without major, you know what I mean? And I respect that, that you went straight from the ground up when you said, I did this thing different. Nobody did it like me. I understand what that mean. How can you explain that to these guys? Like, you know what I mean? Not trying to get the major deal like everybody doing, just knowing, like, I'm a bet on myself out the gate, right?
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I just understood that times was changing. And, you know, now, even a couple years ago, it was turning into a viral thing. You gotta be viral. You gotta be a certain kind of person to get to the next level. I just wanted to stick with my guns. I wanted to stick with what I know. I'm a student of the game, so the people who came before me is who, you know, I listen to and who I'm interested in. So, you know, it's 1% blizz. Like, it's 1% of us.
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That's a fact.
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It ain't too many. And I just stuck with that. And I wanted to do what I wanted to do. I ain't really want to Change too much. Yeah. So y' all gonna rock with it or not?
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That's a fact. Then you got classics, like records, like, Forever Do Me Die Rich, Connected with myself, the streets, everybody. I feel like those breakthrough records, like, what did you realize in your sound at that moment? That it was resonating beyond Harlem.
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Just when I started connecting with other people, like the Lucci's and the Durks and, you know, Wiz Khalifa, 2 Chainz. These is, like, big names in the game. And once I was able to connect with them, I understood, like, oh, nah, you know, they respect the N craft. You know what I mean? So this shit, it's bigger than ever. You know what I mean?
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That's a fact. You definitely got a major, major connection. Cause shout out Lucci, when he came home, man, I seen he came down
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in New York, and I was running around, do a dinner for my bro. You know, he one of them ones who. You know how New York is. It's hard to push through in New York. And it always takes somebody from, like, out of town to come scoop somebody from the town and just, you know, show them other things and introduce you to their audience. And he was one of them early, you know what I mean? Just coming in my hood, shooting videos, supporting.
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So, yeah, like, was there a specific record? Would you say co sign or a moment? Like, you know what I mean? And anything that you felt like your name really rang in New York. Like, what was that moment? The way you knew, like, oh, shit, they fuck with me in New York.
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See, I can't even really pinpoint a record because I always been like, a body of work, dude.
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Yo, you go hard my shit.
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Yeah, yeah. So I think that people just respected, like, oh, nah, you know, my grind more than a record. And I love that about myself because, you know, sometimes you might be in a spot and you might want to get a DJ something to play, but, you know, everybody might not know it, but you had that crowd that be like, yo, you got me through this. You got me through that. Like, yo, you so, yeah, I would just say my body's at work. Not really a record, you know?
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Cause you go, you put out records, my G. Like, I ain't gonna front. I know you probably sitting on 3,000 unreleased records in the computer at the crib. Like, yo, which one we going with next? Cause you don't stop, my G. Every time I look, you got a new record, new video. And that's one thing I love about the new young niggas. Y' all don't Take it. You don't need that whole production to get a video done. Y' all like, yo, I got my man, I'm fly set up. Let's do it. We done put it out. Like, that's dope, man. Like, what you think of the impact of that? Like, being that aggressive? You think music has come to that point where you think you have to be every day that consistent? You think that's necessary in music?
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Yeah, I think it's necessary. I mean, it depends on what kind of artist you want to be. If you want to be viral, you record for that. But if you want to do what I'm doing and you don't want to skip them steps, you got to be consistent. You got to build that base. You got to make sure people fuck with you, and you just got to be solid because people. I feel like nowadays people feel that shit, though. You can't cap your way through the game.
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Hell no, man. It's too much. Real shit. Like I said, social media, media, Instagram, they looking at you. They know when the record cut off. Let's see what he really into. They could go right to your socials, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and see whatever you into. And no, he ain't really that. You know what I mean? They can tell you can't cap your way through this.
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No way. No way. It ain't happening.
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Like, working with artists like Davies. Shout out my guy Davies to another Harlem general. You know what I mean? Being a part of that Harlem conversation now, like, you know what I mean, y'?
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Like, I feel like the two newest faces that I see, I know they got the young guy, Fergie, coming out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Fergie, baby. He was just hooping the other day,
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you know what I mean? He moving, like. And y' all all part of that conversation. Like, what does it feel like carrying that legacy from Harlem? Cause like I said, it's a lot of legendary shit came out of Harlem, bro.
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Yeah. Nah, I feel amazing, you know, and no pressure, you know, like, for me, I just. I just feel like my part. My position in that is just to keep it as solid as possible and, you know, keep the name firm. When you speak on me, I don't want nothing goofy coming behind it because of where I'm from. I'm representing that. I'm waving that flag. So, you know, I just want to make sure with me, when you speak on me, everything's sturdy, you know?
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Like, a lot of artists today, right, they drop music. Like, I would say, I put myself in the shoes. I ain't gonna say nobody else. I put myself. I never took the time to focus and pinpoint and lock in who exactly my audience or fan base was. Like I said, it wasn't on social media. It's like, you put out music. People heard it. They showed up to the shows, they showed up to the in stores. If not, that was it. I didn't have no other way to reach back out to them, lock them in. Now, like, artists like yourself, like you just said, man, you got your core fan base. You know what they like, how to cater to them, the merch they want, the records they want. How is that for new artists, even building that up? What advice would you give to another young artist that's trying to capitalize off his fan base?
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I mean, I would say you gotta fuck with the people and learn the Internet, you know, it gotta be a balance of both. I think some people just base their career off the Internet. And, you know, whatever I give the Internet is what you get. But you gotta fuck with the people too. You gotta touch the people. People gotta know you solid so they can support you. You know what I mean? And I'm big on that. I'm big on touching the people. When I go to my parties or my shows, I try to, you know, get out to the crowd. I might walk to the bathroom, you know, on purpose. Might not even gotta use the bathroom. But I just wanna walk through, you know, see what's going on. People really fuck with me. These people pay that money to come see you. So, you know, everybody won't get the opportunity to get backstage. That's right. So if you could get out there and touch the people and, you know, fuck with them, they gonna fuck with you back. It's love out there.
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I believe in that, man. Life outside the velvet rope.
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I believe in that.
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I'm a firm believer. That's how I got a lot of connections. That' you know what I mean? I feel like you meet them people that really fuck with you and you could tap into that culture, that city, that country, that state, wherever you at. You know what I'm saying? And you need those boots on the ground to tell you what the movement is in a certain part of the land.
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You understand that, though? Like I said, like, shout out to my man Seven Streams. I went to go chop it up with him, you know, not too long ago, but he say this thing, it's the 1%. It's only 1% of us. That's right. You know what I mean? I just still sticking to the code of not even no gangster code. Cause I don't even want. I don't want to confuse the youngest like, yo, the cold mean be a gangster. It's just about being solid, you know, the morals, values, them principles, you know,
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showing up for yourself, that ain't here, that's gone. A lot of these young niggas don't even care about morals and principles, man. They just think about fly. Let me get fly, let me get a bitch and let me impress the homies. That's it. Ain't no morals. Ain't no principles no more.
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Yeah, man, that shit dead.
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It's over. And I feel like they just need guidance, man. Cause the OGs want to be young niggas. A lot of them, not all of them. A lot of these OGs out here still want to be the young boys. It's like, you gotta. It's okay, man.
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It's going through that crisis, man. Going through the identity crisis.
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He said we wouldn't get older. We here now. Accept it, embrace it. Get that game back. And you know what I mean? I feel like if you a OG sending young niggas down the wrong path, you ain't og. You just a stupid old nigga.
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Yeah. That's all you is.
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Word out. Like, you just a stupid old nigga. Cause if you been down them paths, and you gonna send another nigga down them paths knowing what it lead to. Yeah, Ain't nothing OG about that.
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It is.
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You just a old guy.
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That's a fact. That's a fact. I ain't gonna lie. A lot of that shit you talking about, that's good that, you know, we even touched on this subject because, you know, when people tap into these podcasts, they need to hit us.
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Yeah, that's true.
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They need to get that game. You know, a lot of people ain't giving that game. And you know, it's coming from somebody that's credible and been through it. You know what I mean?
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I'm telling you, I would never steer a young nigga down the path of no success or knowing it's only two results, you know what I mean? There's no wins, there's only losses. You know what I mean? Like, it's so much loss, like, even in the street, bro. Like, it's a lot of successful niggas who put pain in. In the street. But I bet you, you ask any successful gangster n who really live that life, I bet you the losses he took to be who he is, he'll give all that shit back to be normal and get all his homies back.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Like, that's real shit. Like, it's a lot of shit we go through. Niggas don't know, man. Fuck that. But, yo, like, every independent artist hit, where things, you know, feel like they slowed down. Like, you know what I mean? And it don't go as planned. Like, they panned out. Cause you could put a plan on paper, execute it, and the results don't come out as you wanted them, as you hoped. You know what I mean? What's Been the toughest stretch in the game. You say for yourself.
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I think, like, we were speaking. Like, we was touching on earlier. Just me sticking to my guns and, you know, like, times change, the game get younger. You know what I mean? And somebody might come through with a record. When you feel like when you right there, when it's your time, somebody might come through with a record, and then all the attention shift that way. But, you know, that shit build tough skin.
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That's right.
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Going through that shit and you become who you are. So I feel like even when that happened, I'm still who I am.
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That's right.
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You know what I mean? I still wake up every day, get it a bag. I still got my fan base that I built over the years. And nah, man, this shit ain't never stopping. This shit going up. You heard.
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I could relate to that. Cause I dealt with it. Remember, I was the first artist on Roc. A fella. There was nobody else. Like Source Money went and did his own thing. Jazzo went and did his own thing, and it was Jay and it was me. And then here come Beanie Siegel, and everything changed. I hated them niggas. Yeah, I hated them. But it was motivation to make me, like, wait, I can't hate him to stay away and not work. I gotta learn why he. So I had to learn. So I went and studied with Siegel. I give him a lot of credit to the artist I became because I used the motivation of what he bought to fuel what I had. You know what I'm saying? So I would never take that away. That nigga was super nice. So I know what you mean. When the artist come with that record and it feel like everything shift that way, but you still right here. You can never lose motivation. All you could do is be inspired and keep going with your shit. You know what I mean?
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Using the field with dogs, man.
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Yo, that's what I'm saying. That J and Beans, like, this shit
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is like you was in the field.
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What I'm supposed to do, dawg?
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C
Yeah, man. And even look, even everybody that came.
- [22:49]
B
Yeah, them niggas was animals. Chris Meat Free. Oh, Sparks. Niggas was animals. Them niggas was dogs. Yeah, but that's what I mean. Like, when you hear Beans say steel, sharp and steel. That's a fact, bro. We was in that studio putting in pain. And if you didn't, it's sad to say, but real talk, if you didn't really put in that pressure, you didn't get no studio tires. Remember, it was only two rooms in baseline, A and B, right? Jay had the A room all day. So we fought for that B room and that B room. You wasn't. You couldn't be in there playing with bars, right? You had to spit that shit or go play some pool.
- [23:26]
C
Gladiator school.
- [23:27]
B
Go play some pool. Play some 2K.
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C
Do something.
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B
Next man up. Like, word up. Niggas did not play that going in there. You sitting in here 10 hours and can't think of nothing. Okay, well, go sit over there. You in there now, like, word. So what's the right. What did you say? What's the vision right now for neat bucks? Both the artist and the brand.
- [23:51]
C
Shit, man. Yo, look, like I said earlier, this shit bigger than ever, man. Like, right now, I got. I'm in Allentown, Pennsylvania. I got a.
- [23:59]
B
No way.
- [24:00]
C
Yeah, yeah, I got a juice bar. I just opened my studio, the Compound
- [24:03]
B
studios out there in Allentown.
- [24:04]
C
In Allentown?
- [24:05]
B
Yeah. That's what's up. Gotta come fuck with you, man. The Sands owe me some money.
- [24:08]
C
Yeah, pull up. Nah, you gotta pull up. So look, I just opened up my studio in Allentown called the Comp. And then it's a three story building downstairs. I'm opening a juice bar. I'm gonna announce my grand opening once I clear this last permit. You know what I mean? But hopefully, if you ain't doing shit,
- [24:23]
B
you know, come through, pop up AJ Allentown, right there. They got the low key airport straight to the Oak.
- [24:28]
C
Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do.
- [24:30]
B
I just don't know, nigga, I do gotta make moves, man. They got the low key airport. That's dope.
- [24:35]
C
But that's just a little sign of what's next for me. Of course, you know, we putting the music out, the music go hand in hand.
- [24:41]
B
You ain't stopping with that.
- [24:42]
C
Sure. But, you know, I'm just learning how to be a better hustler. You know, just the right way, the
- [24:46]
B
correct way you doing it. I could say out of a lot of the young artists, you one of the first I see showing you investing. Cause I remember when you first posted, you bought a building. You know what I mean? I'm like, that's how you do it. You know what I mean?
- [24:59]
C
Grooving.
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B
That's how you do it, my G. That's the play to go. Like real estate. It's three things that you are never losing in the world that's always needed. Food, real estate, clothing.
- [25:10]
C
For sure.
- [25:10]
B
There's three things people gonna need till the day they die. So you get the right building, you Serve the right recipe, you get the right clothing, yeah, you roll, it's over.
- [25:19]
C
I remember Kiss that in the song, like, Things I've Been Through. It's a song called Things I've Been Through. He said a line like, once they let you in, you supposed to keep, though.
- [25:26]
B
That's right.
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C
I can't give you the formula. I'm on it, though. That line right there stuck with me, you know, Once they let you in a little bit, once they give you the check, whatever they give you. You know what I mean? You supposed to keep it after that.
- [25:36]
B
That's a fact, man.
- [25:37]
C
That's just my motto, bro.
- [25:39]
B
So what would you say at this point in your career, what the game taught you about patience and timing,
- [25:48]
C
man? I see people come and go, you know. For real, though, I see people come and go. So with that being said, you know, you stay patient, your time gonna come eventually. I see mad people time come, you know, whether it's late, whether it's early, your time gonna come. Be patient and be ready.
- [26:04]
B
That's a fact. Projects like The El Barrio 3 joint, you know what I mean? That's the latest joint you said you dropped. That shows growth, you know what I mean? Perspective. What are your most focused on? What are you most focused on at this point in your career? Like, where you want the music to
- [26:23]
C
take you now, you know? Like, right now, I want the music to just. I could say it like this. Right now, the music probably like just a little hobby for me now. You know what I'm saying? It's still like business. I still love it. I still put my all into it, but I'm just. My mind just so open to so many different things. Because, you know, social media just introduce you to a lot different ways to get to the bag, different ways to rebrand yourself.
- [26:50]
B
That's right.
- [26:50]
C
So, you know, I can't just fully be focused on one thing, you know, just as an entrepreneur, you never fully focused on one thing. So. So the music is just one of many things, you know, that I love to do and that I'm good at.
- [27:03]
B
New York, like, yeah, where would you rank New York hip hop right now, man? In the world, you know what I mean? You got, of course, Atlanta doing they thing. You got the west coast been doing they thing, the South, Miami, the South, Atlanta, you got St. Lou. Everybody been putting in pressure. Memphis right now. Where you think New York at on that scale, man?
- [27:24]
C
Shit, man, I say if it wasn't for niggas like me, this shit would be finished. That's What I say, I'm respectfully, though, you know what I mean? I just feel like, you know, this shit changed. Niggas turn into groupies, you know, like dick riders and shit like that. Nah, for real. I'm being honest, though.
- [27:41]
B
I ain't telling you to stop.
- [27:42]
C
Yeah, nah, nah. Real shit, though. I just feel like, you know, the way this shit going, it ain't It N be divas. You know what I mean?
- [27:47]
B
That's a fact.
- [27:49]
C
It ain't too many. Yeah, bro.
- [27:51]
B
Attitude come before the bag these days.
- [27:52]
C
Yeah, yeah. I can't say too much good things about it, you know, like. Like, even, like, the OGs and shit, you know, they kind of stepping away from it and getting into podcasting. If you look at, you know, all the big dogs and shit, everybody.
- [28:03]
B
A lot of people. I went. Nori brought me into this shit. Don't yo niggas gass me up to do this.
- [28:09]
C
Don't think. Nah, nah, nah, nah. You know that.
- [28:11]
B
Don't gas me, dog.
- [28:12]
C
I wouldn't even sit down with you if I feel like that about you.
- [28:14]
B
Nah, nah, I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. But just for y' all niggas out there, I still burn y' all niggas.
- [28:19]
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not real shit, though, but I just feel like, you know, like, even the OGs kind of wash their hands with this shit a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
- [28:28]
B
I think it's the politics of it. While we did not the love of the music. I just feel like me, from a New York perspective, I think we lost our identity.
- [28:36]
C
Yeah.
- [28:37]
B
You know what I mean? Like a lot of New Yorkers, I be like, he from. No way. No way. He from, nigga. Like, where he from? Over here be like, fucking lying. So that's what I think it is. Like, we lost our identity. We fell in love with. With just one sound. And you know, the Drill music. I love it. I fuck with all the Drill shit.
- [28:57]
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
- [28:58]
B
That shit don't. You know, it don't fill up a room.
- [29:00]
C
Hell yeah. Yo, look, I got a thousand little niggas from my block that do drill right all day. I be telling them, though, right? Like, see, I can't promote this shit. You feel me? Because that'd be me, you know, being a hypocrite. You know what I could do? I could pay for the studio, though.
- [29:16]
B
That's right.
- [29:16]
C
You know what I mean? I could put y' all in there, but I can't. I'm not Promoting that shit. But I pay for the studio.
- [29:21]
B
Yeah, but.
- [29:21]
C
You get what I'm saying?
- [29:22]
B
But why Drill? Why, yo, listen, that's what they know how to do.
- [29:26]
C
I just look at that shit like,
- [29:27]
B
I like the style. I like the style of the music. But why gotta be a actual crime? Like why it just can't be. Yo suspend a hot verse. Why gotta be an actual move he did for it to be drilled. That's what I. My old brain care process of the young boys that it had. Like, if I go in the crib right now, just write a rhyme over a drill beat. It's not drill unless I really did it.
- [29:59]
C
So I'm saying, look, back in the days. Back in the days, right? Look, you saying N wasn't really rapping what they was.
- [30:04]
B
No, we was selling drugs. When you hear me say blue tops, yellow tops. Yeah, 34 Taj Mahals. I took Crackhead's ID, the first at 50. That's. That's all facts.
- [30:16]
C
Right? Right. Real shit.
- [30:17]
B
But you didn't have to say that for it to be considered rap.
- [30:23]
C
Right? Right.
- [30:23]
B
This is what I'm saying. That was just me expressing my life today. I feel like if it's not a real crime, it's not drill. If I ain't smoking on you in the pack for real like you in the air, it's not drill. I just wanna know why.
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D
Why?
- [30:40]
B
Nigga just can't make that hypothetical he spin it and he really never spun and be lit.
- [30:48]
C
Niggas ain't having that. These little niggas ain't having that.
- [30:50]
B
They got nah, he faked Drill.
- [30:52]
C
Yeah, niggas ain't having that.
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B
It's no fake hip hop, unless you just don't know. You know what I mean? The ancestry. Like, you don't know the history of hip hop. And you just jump in this shit thinking, oh, I'm gonna get a bag real. Then, yeah, you faking it. But there's no way you gonna learn how to rhyme to a beat, make, you know what I mean, Poetry on paper, and you consider it fake. Like, that shit just don't make sense to me. You know what I'm saying? That's where I feel like we losing our creativity. It has to be real. And for that to be real, we losing our artists. You niggas going to jail. The da life.
- [33:33]
C
Yeah.
- [33:33]
B
What's the latest record? Didn't this crime just happen? This shit just came up on my fucking. What's the. On my app, Citizens shit just popped up and he rapped about it.
- [33:43]
C
Rapped about it.
- [33:44]
B
Go get it.
- [33:44]
C
That's the same thing right there.
- [33:46]
B
Now we don't get another record, and now it's no more music.
- [33:49]
C
Nah, real shit.
- [33:50]
B
So.
- [33:51]
C
Nah, I be telling them, though. I tell them that shit all the time. That's my position in this shit now, though. You know, it's to get a game. You know niggas gonna listen to it or not, but I did my part.
- [34:01]
B
But one thing about that, you a young boy, so it's like, it's kind of hard to look another nigga the same age as you in the eye and give him game.
- [34:10]
C
I did the shit early, though.
- [34:12]
B
I'm not gonna lie back. And I'm putting myself now back in the day, Lil Bleak. I'm in the stool Beans or Freeway. Anybody like, yo, you wildin'. You shouldn't be going to the club like that. Yo, you should be doing. I be looking at niggas like, you don't get the fuck out my face. But that's just natural. Cause you the same age of an older said nigga gonna be like, they're not old. She been through.
- [34:40]
C
Maybe, maybe.
- [34:41]
B
Nah, back then. Back then, no, you knew it wasn't no squares. Like, that's the thing today, right? Everybody look alike. When I was a shorty, it were groups of people. There was the backpack kids that. You know what I mean? They hung out, did they skateboard thing, wild out doing, you know, on some break dancing shit, doing that. You had the graffiti niggas. Who was on that spray can shit. You had the drug dealers, you had the niggas. It was a style that don't even exist no more. Ain't even no GQ niggas out here where they at? Cause I wanted to be a GQ nigga back then, but my moms ain't had no bread to get the polo boots and shit. So I had to be a street. It couldn't be gq. But that's what I'm saying. You had them niggas, the fly pretty boy niggas. You had the basketball niggas. You had the rapping then you had the back in the days, for some reason. See, they don't exist in your era. You even had ninjas. It was a group of niggas that walked the fence, wore open toe shoes, threw ninja stars. Nigga, I wanted to be a ninja, too.
- [35:46]
C
That's crazy.
- [35:47]
B
We was outside, but it was groups of different shit now. Everybody just blended in one pair of kasubis on some ass on they could throw fitted on. You don't know what he into, right?
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C
That's a fact.
- [36:00]
B
This nigga be a painter, but he look like he trapping,
- [36:05]
C
yo, straight up. That's a fact, though.
- [36:07]
B
Everybody look the same, so there's no identity anymore. I feel like that's where we gotta fix it like it's cool to be cool. So when you giving this game to these young boys, I feel like they looking at you like you in the same position as me. For you to be a young boy, to give game to young boys, you Gotta stand on a block that's higher than the block they on, right? You know, it's like preaching from the podium. You know, you can't preach from eye level. They ain't gonna listen. You gotta be higher. And the shit you doing, you see what you say? I'm opening up a juice bar. I bought a four story building and I got a building in Harlem. Like, that's how you lead by example. My cause a lot of niggas lead with this and they ain't never accomplished nothing.
- [36:50]
C
That's a fact.
- [36:51]
B
So to give out game and still have accomplishments, that's.
- [36:54]
C
That's a fact.
- [36:55]
B
That's what these kids need to see. They need to see results. Cause will tell you a bunch of shit. But then it's like, all right, what did you do with this information you just gave me? Like, you still broke. Get out my face. You know what I'm saying? So when you say a lot of the OGs ain't giving, a lot of the OGs still trying to fix they mistakes. Nah, real shit, you know what I'm saying? Niggas ain't the 80s. Like N did they thing, but niggas thought that shit was gonna last forever, you know what I'm saying? A lot of niggas ain't prepared for today.
- [37:24]
C
Yeah, that's a fact.
- [37:25]
B
And so everybody trying to find their way. And it's like you just gotta identify what you want and what you are and get it. That's my game. To anybody. Old, young, fucking 80, 90, it's never too late to figure out your lane. And your lane is definitely this type of platform that I built. Like, I see it's weird hearing you talk the way you talk because it took me 20, 30 years to talk like that, bro. You talking like this already. Young, I was 45 when I got it, when I realized. But I said it's never too late. You gotta it early. So you know you got a super head start, my nigga.
- [38:07]
C
Real, I ain't gonna lie. I think a been through a lot
- [38:09]
B
early, you know what I'm saying?
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C
You know what I'm saying? Like, word I understand. Like, I got shot twice, bro. The most crucial places though, head in the chest. Niggas don't come back from those. You heard like two separate times. So me just understanding, that's why I wake up every day and just chase this shit. You know, Technically ain't supposed to be here.
- [38:26]
B
That's a fact.
- [38:26]
C
But I'm here though. You heard? I'm a squash these niggas. While I'm here.
- [38:30]
B
You heard? That's a fact, my nigga.
- [38:31]
C
Nigga, you kidding me?
- [38:32]
B
There's a reason, man. So what the next level for you look like, man? Like after this, like, what you think the next step for Buck is going? Where you see yourself going next, man?
- [38:45]
C
Man, just big dog status, bro. You know, everything just colossal. Everything big dog status. What I mean by that, you know, it's just expanding. Expanding the brand, expanding the team.
- [38:54]
B
That's right.
- [38:55]
C
You know, putting other people on, you know, just. Just helping. That's a real thing, you know, you got people gotta help more out here. Ain't too much help, too much selfishness.
- [39:04]
B
Too much selfishness.
- [39:04]
C
Everybody feels really enough for everybody in this shit, though, you know, like. And you know, for the solid ones. Not nobody who gonna do the weird shit and just understanding who people is, just loving people for who they are because that shit get in the way. People might see a flaw in somebody and that be the end all be all. But nah, you gotta learn how to understand people and love em for who they are.
- [39:24]
B
That's right.
- [39:24]
C
That's how we expand.
- [39:25]
B
That's right, man. Like, I ain't like one thing Jeezy. I never forget, man. Nigga Jeezy says some shit, man. N say, yo, Blizz, man, you know one thing about Atlanta niggas, man, on the outside, y' all niggas think we love each other. He say, yeah, when it come down to get that bag, you my man, right? But once that record come on go off, we all looking at each other like, man, get the fuck outta here. But to get that bag, we gonna come together. And I remember looking at him like, nigga in New York? Hell no, nigga. Like, I kill you and the B you talk about. So wherever you say that, look, nigga
- [40:02]
C
be like, yo, this shit wide open. The game wide open. How the game wide open? You got niggas like Fergie, baby. You got niggas like East. You got niggas like me push niggas through the door so we could bring more niggas through. But the game wide open. Like, y' all don't see niggas going crazy?
- [40:17]
B
You know what it is?
- [40:18]
C
Putting that work in the game wide open.
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B
I think it's the, you know, it's a thing niggas say, yo, the gatekeepers, I think n rely too much on ready where radio don't dictate the movements anymore. Like, think about it, right? Benny the Butcher, Westside Gun, all of them niggas the whole Griselda. Them niggas on tour for six months, three months at a time. I never heard one record on the radio.
- [40:45]
C
Right.
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B
You know what I mean? Smoke Dizzle on tour, I never heard a record on the radio. Fucking, what's my man Rock Marciano? Niggas consider him the God of this shit. Never heard a record on the radio. Like, I literally. These people, I gotta go and type they name in and hear they music, and it's like, okay, this that shit right here. You know what I'm saying? So with that being said, bro, it's nobody in New York that's gonna push you through with you.
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C
Yeah, nah, that's a fact.
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B
You know what I'm saying? There's no person that can do that. You know what's gonna do it? Consistency, what you doing.
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C
And heat.
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B
That's undeniable, my nigga.
- [41:28]
C
Nah, we understand that shit now. We had no choice. But basically, what I'm trying to say is why nigga gotta go through all that if you got. You know what I mean? Look, say, for example, Harlem niggas who got already in that position, you know, just say, he the guy. He the guy. He the guy. You push him through. He say, the next dude, this the guy. This the should be a. It should. You know what I mean?
- [41:50]
B
But unfortunately, I'mma keep it real with you.
- [41:52]
C
You know how this go.
- [41:52]
B
A lot of niggas scared of they spot, bro. They don't want you to come in and take their spot. My. It's people out here who actually say this shit. Like, I'm not helping niggas. Then they take my spot. Then what I'm supposed to do. You know what you supposed to do? Grow, nigga. The. You mean what I'm supposed to do? You gonna stay in the same spot forever. It gotta be the next man up. And you move on to the next next thing that's cooking or reinvent some shit, you know what I'm saying? And I don't fuck with those type of guys, bro. Like niggas who scared, who protect what they think they own. Cause we don't own this shit, man. Success is not owned, my nigga. It's rented. And rent is due every day, my nigga. That's a fact. It's a tab on this shit every day. And the tab is no sleep. Birthdays, missed celebrations and graduations and shit with your kids. Missed. Missed. Like, I enjoy more with my son now than I did when he was a kid. Why I had to go on tour. I be back. Little, you Want them bikes and shit or you want to eat sardines out the can, right? So that's what success costs, man. It costs you your life, man. Like, you got to really give your all of this shit to obtain it for real. It ain't just, yo, let me go get successful and go back to the block and party with the homie. No, that's the B roll. For sure, for sure, for sure. Word. Like, you got any music? You working on anything dropping soon?
- [43:18]
C
Yeah, I'm about to drop something with me and Cocky Kai. You know, New York shit.
- [43:22]
B
Another nigga moving out here.
- [43:23]
C
We dropping that joint, then I'm gonna drop another joint with Lucci. I got shit in the bag. I got shit ready. Yeah. Hell yeah. You know what I mean? I've been so busy on this. Fucking trying to get this building open, you know what I mean?
- [43:35]
B
And working out. I gotta get with these young niggas, too, man. Ja fucked up. I ain't get in the gym with you when we was young, man. I'm old now. And the young niggas got they shit together, so I'm gonna fuck with them. These niggas be in the park on the block, and you know it's safe. Cause we done needed a gun back in the day.
- [43:51]
C
Nah, that shit real out there. But you know, I want niggas to look out the window and say, yo, bucks out there.
- [43:57]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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C
You know what I'm saying?
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B
I love that shit, man. Y' all niggas be out there putting it paint. I be watching you doing this shit. Smith and Wesson doing this shit. Then you would see Jada kids get up there and do some other shit. Method Man. Yeah, meth was a different shit. Meth, diesel and a camera.
- [44:11]
C
Yeah, man.
- [44:12]
B
Like, what's going on out here? Niggas getting super powers.
- [44:14]
C
What's going on out here, man? You know, it's a lot of bullshit, but it's a lot of good shit going on.
- [44:19]
B
Hell yeah, man. It's a lot of niggas. That's why I did this platform buck, just for shit like that. Cause I feel like it's a lot of negativity out here on N. And it's like, I don't want niggas to interview you because you did some off the wall shit. You got caught with some chicken heads or you clapped a nigga, or y' all jumped the nigga at the club and now they want you on they platform. That shouldn't deserve an ending. For niggas like y', all, that's a fact. Just off the work you put in should be on. You should be invited to all these platforms to promote what you going on. It shouldn't have to be negativity for niggas to know who you is.
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C
Definition of rock solid, you know what I'm saying?
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