Guest (3:37)

What?

Host 1 (3:37)

From there, Javier starts posting tiktoks of all these empty streets. Every time he's walking around in a public place, it's completely empty. You don't see a single person. You don't even see a shadow of a person. The stores that he's walking through are completely empty. He posts empty hospitals, airports. He even goes to a police station that's completely empty, finds the keys to one of the squad cars, gets inside. I mean, of course netizens are going crazy with these viral tiktoks. They're very skeptical, honestly. Some are enjoying it for what it is, which is entertainment, but others think that he's playing tricks, right? Maybe he filmed this during the pandemic and he's just now posting them like a year later. Or perhaps he goes to all these places super early in the morning to film before the city wakes up. So yeah, I mean, obviously nobody is there. Which leads Javier to leaving these secret packages in tourist heavy spots. He's trying to prove because he's like, I read your comments. I'm from 2027 and nobody is here. In order to prove it to you, I will leave a package somewhere very secretive. He goes to a tourist heavy spot, leaves a package, nobody is there. Fellow netizens will go to the same spot. It's filled with people and the package is there.

Guest (4:50)

Wait, I don't get it. If he's from 2027 and he leaves the package. How would we find it in 2021 or 2022?

Host 1 (4:57)

Yeah, nobody knows.

Guest (4:59)

That doesn't make sense. The timeline is not adding up, right?

Host 1 (5:02)

The timeline isn't making any sense. Yes, but Javier is like for some reason it's happening. Other things Javier has done to try and convince the Internet that he's from the future, is going out during the night to show that he's not just out during the early morning hours. He also has gone to highly secured locations. Historic landmarks, hospitals, airport backrooms, stadiums, medical labs. Usually places that a random person cannot just walk through for fun or for filming or just to take a look around. He's even walked into a Mercedes dealership, taken a key and just driven off. I mean, evidently Mercedes cars run so well that even after sitting there for years, they're still drivable. The videos are entertaining due to the mere fact that it is weird and strange and eerie to see just so many public places be so empty. However, there's probably an easy explanation to how Javier is filming these tiktoks. It's conceivable that he was able to obtain filming permits. Or maybe it's explained that he's friendly with authorities. Or maybe he's part of the authorities. Maybe he's a cop and he has the ability to get clear clearance to go into these locations. Or who knows, maybe he's a game developer who's capable of CGI everyone out of scenes and this is part of a game that he's working on. So he's testing it out and generating conversation for his future project. That could make sense.

Guest (6:21)

Is he still doing it today?

Host 1 (6:23)

Yes.

Guest (6:24)

Really? It's been going on for years.

Host 1 (6:25)

Yes.

Guest (6:26)

Wow.

Host 1 (6:27)

But it just can't be true, right, that Javier is from the future. Because nobody is from the future. Right? August 10, 2024, 6:45 in the morning. There are at least five Miami based paramedics in the area. That's not even including the other authorities, the police, just paramedics surrounding this little blonde woman. She's laying on the pavement shirtless and she tells them the aliens. One of the paramedics leans down. Excuse me. They're coming. They're coming. They're coming, they're coming, they're coming. What? I'm from the future. I'm a crystal ball. You can live off me. Later they ask her, do you know what happened? Do you remember what happened? And she responds, yeah, I died. The authorities are very interested in what she has to say because obviously there's no way she's from the future, right? I mean, how does one die and come back to life like that? 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We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the Jed Foundation. The Jed foundation is a nonprofit that exists to protect emotional health and prevent substance misuse in our nation's te and young adults. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mingo's growing team, and we would also like to thank you guys for your continued support as we work on our mission to be worthy advocates. As always, full show notes are available@roottenmingopodcast.com with that being said, let's get into it. I have a question for you. If you are walking on the sidewalk, it's morning, so it's bright outside, there's people everywhere. You're walking north when suddenly all the morning joggers, all the fellow pedestrians start running in the opposite direction as what do you do? Do you keep going north where they're running from? Or do you u turn and start running with them and nobody's really telling you what's going on.

Guest (12:06)

They're just running like they're panic screaming. Running?

Host 1 (12:10)

Yeah, like they look like they're on a mission. Something has happened. They're running either away from something or to something.

Guest (12:16)

Oh yeah, I'm u turning.

Host 1 (12:17)

You're u turning? Yeah, that's exactly what Macy Lathers does. She's wearing blue jeans, a red hoodie. The hood is pulled over her head and she's briskly walking in one direction. There's CCTV footage of her. She's like 20 right now. Clearly she is not out for a morning jog. She's wearing jeans. But she does seem like she's sort of in a rush for something. She's walking north, let's say, when a bunch of people start running in the opposite direction. And she has this moment where she hesitates, but maybe someone says something to her because she immediately u turns it around 180, joins the crowd and starts running from where she was coming from. Makes a full U turn which takes her straight to the street where there are three cars that look like they have been chewed up and spit out on a random Miami road. There are firefighters descending. There's one car that's they're having to pry open this crumbled piece of metal. A piece of the car has to come off so that they can get the victim out. There's three cars. A white Mercedes, a black Range Rover and a silver Suzuki. It appears that the white Mercedes ran the red lights going 80 on a 30 road, slammed into the black Range Rover. The black Range Rover and the white Mercedes then both slammed into the silver Suzuki. It caused all three cars to be completely smashed. Ultimately, the driver of the black Range Rover is rushed to the hospital, injured but alive. Two passengers in the silver Suzuki, Abraham Molina and his friend Jesus Rubio. They were in the backseat headed to work and the collision killed them. The driver of the Suzuki that was in the car with them, Abraham's wife Juanita, was rushed to the hospital where she managed to survive, which means two passengers are dead. The driver of the Range Rover survived. The driver of the Suzuki survived, but she lost her husband and her friend. Then who was driving the white Mercedes. As the police are trying to figure that out a block away, Macy, the one that was running with the red hoodie, she is seen. She's the one that u turned right. She manages to slip away from the crowd where one block away, she's now on the ground throwing up just in the middle of the street. There's so much going on at 6:45 in the morning on this Miami intersection. She's now completely topless. Her red hoodie is off and it's maybe like 200ft down the road.

Guest (14:43)

Wait, wait, wait. She made a U turn, ran back.

Host 1 (14:47)

From where she was coming from. There's three cars piled up and Then she takes a turn and starts running down a block. But somehow her top is off, her shirt comes off. She's completely topless in the middle of a street. And she just left her red hoodie like 200ft behind her.

Guest (15:05)

What? Okay.

Host 1 (15:06)

There are two officers standing there guarding the scene and guarding Macy. In a sense, it appears like they're trying to get her up, but it's not working very well. I mean, the whole thing is difficult. She's kind of slugging around on the pavement. There's a whole group of construction workers watching the whole thing unfold. Some of them are filming, which is alarming considering she's topless. But nevertheless, there's this big wet patch on her pants. Evidently, she peed herself. And eventually the officers give up on trying to get her up. They're confused on what's going on. There's a female officer on site who looks like she's thinking through if this career path is even worth it. And in the perfect timing, Macy is on the pavement screaming. Ah. They ask her, ma'am, what car were you driving? My name is Mercedes. My name is Mercedes.

Guest (15:59)

Is her name Mercedes or Macy?

Host 1 (16:01)

It's Macy.

Guest (16:02)

Oh, okay. It's not Mercedes.

Host 1 (16:04)

No.

Guest (16:04)

But she was driving Mercedes.

Host 1 (16:06)

Yes.

Guest (16:07)

Okay.

Host 1 (16:07)

The male cop has to tell her, calm down, calm down, calm down. I'm from the future. Awesome. Amazing. I have a crystal ball. Ma'am, what did you take? Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink, Pink. Pink. Oh, fuck. In Colombia, there is a woman. Not many people know her real name. They just call her the Queen of Tusi. She is the head of this organization called Le Empresa, which translates to the enterprise. They run the Tusi trafficking ring in that region, and it's a fully fledged corporation, if you will, with manufacturing, drop and shipment safe houses that are connected by underground tunnels in that region. Each safe house is guarded 247 by men with giant machine guns. And typically, nobody is allowed in or out unless they're part of the enterprise. Until a vice journalist decides, I'm going to go in there and film a YouTube video. Full body pat down. That's what it starts with. Only then is the vice team allowed into one of the safe houses to see the supplies. And it's just these giant bags of pink, powdery substance.

Guest (17:16)

Wait, they let the vice team come in to film?

Host 1 (17:20)

Yes.

Guest (17:20)

Oh, okay. So it's not a secret filming. It's agreed upon?

Host 1 (17:23)

Yes.

Guest (17:24)

Okay.

Host 1 (17:24)

And there's just these pink powdery substances in bags called tusi. It looks like sugar. Dyed pink. It looks like something my nieces would bake with. As for what the pink powder is, that depends on who and when you buy it. And even then, each time, you could get something else entirely. Mostly it'll be some sort of variation or mixture of ketamine, which technically can be used to treat medical conditions. Some patients will be prescribed it to treat pain management as well as mental health treatment. Mixed with mdma, AKA Ecstasy or Molly, mixed with meth sometimes, and potentially even fentanyl, believe it or not. Some drug traffickers will even add caffeine to it to bulk it up. Some say it enhances the experience because caffeine is a stimulant. But most traffickers who care about profit margins will say caffeine is legal. It's relatively cheap. It bulks up the mixture. You're adding powder and it's sold by weight, and it reduces production costs while still providing the stimulator effects. These days, the pink powder is known as pink cocaine or 2C. Yeah, it contains relatively no cocaine nowadays, nor does it contain 2C B. 2C B. It's what it's named after. 2C B was actually first synthesized by Dr. Alexander Shulgin. He's an American pharmacologist who is known for creating over 150 drugs throughout his career. He's actually quite a fascinating character. He was well known for willingly testing his creations on himself for documentation purposes, he said in his book, he writes that 2C B was by far one of his fondest creations. I mean, his whole career, he said, he was focused heavily on creating psychedelic compounds that could be used for therapeutic treatments. Therapists who have tried 2C B with their patients said, you know, it actually was pretty helpful. It just created an open space to talk to the patients where they could access their emotions that they would never normally open up about. It would be normally guard. Guard it off. It feels mild, not too harsh of a drug that shocks the patients into some sort of reaction. It doesn't leave them confused afterwards. It's actually quite gentle, at least the way that we've trialed it, that is. A lot of therapists liked what they were saying, but everything kind of falls apart when 2 CB starts getting marketed as a way to increase stamina in intimate settings. People start using it recreationally so that they can see each other naked. The DEA freaks out, because when used recreationally, the effects are unpredictable. If you take too much 2 CB, and some people have reported when they took too much, they become irrationally violent. They don't identify as violent or angry people, but they'll take it and they just want to choke Someone. They classify 2C B as a Schedule 1 controlled substance, right up there with heroin, opium, and cocaine. Meaning the DEA has deemed the drug one of having a high potential for abuse and two, having no accepted medical use in the United States. So 2C B is completely illegal, not even just on the street level, but on the medical level as well.

Guest (20:31)

Is that doctor still around who created it?

Host 1 (20:34)

I believe so. He might be.

Guest (20:36)

Wow.

Host 1 (20:37)

It seems like in the very low dosages, like I said, some patients have noted becoming passive. But the high doses people also report having these intense hallucinations, morbid delusions where they just start doing violent things. Sometimes that lasts up for 12 hours. Some experts believe that the visual hallucinations are stronger than what you get on LSD or even shrooms. And it has been argued that the potential medical benefits are not really there. Additionally, the potential dangers of the drug just might not be worth it either for society. 2C, even though it's named after 2C B, the chemical compound, it no longer contains really any 2C B. So it's called pink cocaine nowadays. Doesn't really contain cocaine. It was called 2C after 2C. B doesn't really contain any 2C B nowadays.

Guest (21:27)

That's so odd why they do that?

Host 1 (21:28)

It's cheaper, more affordable. Okay, Ketamine, Molly, add those in with caffeine, bulk it up.

Guest (21:35)

Okay, so they're just using the same thing?

Host 1 (21:37)

Yes. Yeah, it's just. It's. The whole thing is very dangerous because every trafficker makes 2C differently, and sometimes each time that they make it, it's different. One netizen writes, it's not a real drug, you guys. It's a Frankenstein monster, a random shit that should almost always be avoided unless you send it to a lab for testing. Another netizen said, it's the fish soup of drugs. Do not buy the fish soup. One of the cartel members states, tusi is like an explosion that has arrived in the world and it's here to stay for a long. It's a gold mine. It's a number one among young kids. It's for kids who don't want to sleep for three to four days. Yeah. The Queen of Tusi even states, the pink color attracts more people. You know, we know the harm it causes in the central nervous system, so I don't use it.

Guest (22:25)

Wow.

Host 1 (22:26)

But now the vice journalist is standing in the Queen of Tusi's safe house with armed guards telling him, you should try it. He's like, what? And they're serious. They're not really giggling with him. And he's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Thank you. Thank you, though. Thank you very much, though. This time they're a little more firm. They're trying to signal to him in a subtle way that they're not joking. They do want him to try it. They point a machine gun at him. Try it. Okay, I'll try a little bit. That is how he gains their trust. That is how he tries pink cocaine on video.

Guest (22:57)

I don't understand what's going on. Like, yeah, why are they allowing this guy to come in and record all of this?

Host 1 (23:04)

I don't know.

Guest (23:05)

Just flexing, like, what's going on?

Host 1 (23:08)

Nobody knows. Yeah, I mean, he ends up trying to see for the first time that night, and only then do they invite him to see how they make the products. I'm not entirely sure what I was expecting, but I definitely wasn't expecting a cartel member to be in front of a stove with a normal pan adding random dashes of liquid ketamine sprinkling in ecstasy, food coloring. And then he would take his gun and mash up pills, using his gun like a pestle. And at one point, the vice journalist asks him, have you ever thought about buying a professional grinder? The quote unquote chef stops grinding the pills with the back of his gun, looks up at the journalist. What? No. He goes back to sauteing the now pink mixture on the stove, using two credit cards as cooking utensils. Just sauteing it. In his downtime, as he's letting it simmer, he takes hits from his crack pipe. It's crazy. Their operations, just this one enterprise alone, cooking on this stove brings in $20 million a year from the pink powder.

Guest (24:11)

So you're saying the visual looks just like those movies? Yes, like guns and credit cards. And they're taking the hits at the same time. It's just like the movie.

Host 1 (24:20)

Just like the movies.

Guest (24:21)

Oh.

Host 1 (24:22)

One doctor says people can die. And the worst part about it is there's really no quality control out there on the street. So you don't really know what your are getting. I mean, they're referring to this as cocaine, and they're making it pink because it's easier to market and easy to sell because it looks cool and it sounds like cocaine. So you're like, I know what cocaine is, but it's very concerning to law enforcement because whatever drug is out there is going to alter someone's mental state. And you don't even know what's in there. You're playing Russian roulette. With these types of drugs, everyone's concoction is going to be different from the next person's. One netizen states, I got a bag of it once. For me it was like ketamine, more so, but I was a little more awake than usual. Friend of mine tested it but found it also had meth inside. So there's that. One netizen claims they've seen a supplier make a batch and said they just use whatever is left from the other drugs. They don't measure anything, like whatever's on the table just now with pink coloring, it's like leftovers. Another netizen agrees, writing, it's just a cocktail of whatever random drugs the cartel janitor swept off the floor the previous night mixed together and then dyed pink. There is not one standardized form formula for pink. 2c. One person who has been high on it says, I honestly thought I was losing my mind. I mean, everything went psychotic. I saw demons everywhere. I thought my brain broke and I was going to be left in this psychotic state for the rest of my life. I never took it since. Not worth the fun. Another netizen says, same thing happened to me. It felt like time stopped and I was stuck in this single moment forever. And then everyone around me turned into demons. Everybody's heads all turned 180 degrees and looked directly at me and started saying, he knows, get him out. He knows. Like I had unlocked some unknown reality straight out of a scary. I still have nightmares about it to this day. Wouldn't wish that kind of trip on any of my worst enemies. Another netizen writes, I took it with my boyfriend. We quickly realized that it was going to be a bad trip. I couldn't formulate sentences. We were completely in a different dimension. And then he got super. He couldn't recognize me, started throwing around stuff and talking about weird things. At some point he started choking me and repeatedly saying that he wants to kill me. I was glad that I could escape because he didn't recognize me and he wasn't gonna stop. Never again after this experience. Please, everyone be careful with this. That is what 2C is. That's also what Diddy has reportedly been allegedly addicted on that all of his staff have to carry around a bag of pink cocaine. 2C, right?

Guest (26:55)

That's where it's from.

Host 1 (26:57)

Yes, I see now 2C is what Macy tells authorities she's on when she's laying one block away from a three car pile up that killed two people. She's laying on the Road, completely shirtless. And she keeps saying she's from the future. She has a crystal ball. And the aliens are coming. They're coming. They're coming. They're coming, coming. I know the answer to heaven. I know it's in the crystal. The cryst, the construction worker that is around, tells the officer she was trying to jump into someone else's car. What car was she driving? The white Mercedes, I think, down the block. She's the one that caused the accident that just killed two people. And now she's topless on the ground, talking about a crystal ball. Eventually, when the paramedics come, she starts. She's just staring up at the sky. I mean, it's clear that she has urinated on herself. She's out of it. The water. The water. We live in a dome. This is the Hollywood scene. Go in the white car. My phone. AI. Oh, my gosh. It's a curse at the White House. Art we need to create. Art, we need to create. We need to create. My mole. My mole. My mole. I died under the crash. The officers asked her, ma'am, what car were you driving? The white car. What kind of car was it? Mercedes. My name is Mercedes. My name is Mercedes. I'm from the future. I'm a crystal ball. You can live off me later. In the ambulance, paramedics ask her for her name. What's your name? Put me in a coffin. Gold. What's your name? Macy. Love. Love. You love me? You love me? You love me? You love me? You guys love me? You guys love me. Please. Please. The answer is numerology. Go look at numerology. All right. Macy, do you know where you are? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Earth. You're where? Earth. Yeah, we're all on Earth. Do you know where you are? What city? Oh, Miami. Do you know what happened? Do you remember what happened? Yeah. I died. She's laying there, staring at the wall of the ambulance. I don't know. Into the crystal ball. Into the void. Just repeating like a voice note on repeat. Pink, Toosie. Pink too see. Pink too, see? Go, go. Go now. Go now. Go, go, go, go, go, go. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. The answer is in the sun. Go to the sun. Go in the sun. The answer is in the sun. Look at the sun. The sun, the sun. Everyone lives at a different pace. The answer is in the crystal. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. In reality, Macy is clearly not from the future, nor can she predict when the aliens are coming to our planet with greater accuracy. Than your conspiracy theorist neighbor. She's high on Pink two. She just killed two people. The most notable thing that she's done, at least from what I can find online prior to this incident, which makes me so angry to even say this because how is this the most notable thing that she's done? She is a self proclaimed Instagram model, but her most notable online appearance is on a red pill podcast, which don't even get me started on the brain dead things that come out of these Gremlin podcast host mouths. The host of the controversial yet not so successful podcast loves to say things like, a key that opens many locks is a master key. A lock that opens with many keys is a shitty lock. Men and women are not the same. We are not equal whatsoever.

Guest (30:27)

Wait, wait, wait. What? What does what. A key that opens every lock is a master key. And then what? What about the lock?

Host 1 (30:34)

But a lock that opens through many keys is a shitty lock.

Guest (30:39)

Okay, okay, that. That sentence makes sense, but what is he referring to?

Host 1 (30:44)

Private parts are keys and locks. He's basically saying, oh, so if.

Guest (30:49)

Oh, I see.

Host 1 (30:50)

If a woman has slept with many people, she is a shitty person. But a man who has slept with many a woman is a master key. Yeah.

Guest (31:02)

Wow. I don't see how is that related at all.

Host 1 (31:06)

But okay, yeah, he's saying all of this in the episode that Macy is a guest on. He says, a man with a lot of bodies is successful. A woman with a lot of bodies is a failure. A woman's value is intimately tied to how many sexual partners you've had when it comes to finding a man.

Guest (31:25)

Oh, yeah, no, what I was saying was like, I don't know how key and men and women are related at all is what I'm saying. I guess the only relation that he found was like, okay, you gotta stick it in.

Host 1 (31:37)

Yeah. Which is like the most ridiculous, lobotomized comparison of like, okay, inanimate object.

Guest (31:45)

Yeah.

Host 1 (31:46)

What are you talking about? He also says, man can't be hoes because we're the ho makers. Women don't really have this concept of violence and how the world really works in general. Most girls don't know, and that's why most girls are not fit to be leaders. Men are better decision makers. Men are better problem solvers. They're the ones that create society. I can't really think of a female inventor in my head.

Guest (32:12)

What podcast is this?

Host 1 (32:14)

Fresh Fit Fit Fresh Fresh to fit. One of those. It's that stupid podcast. Yeah, which to comment on that last thing, I can't really think of a female inventor in my head. Your stupidity is not proof of a concept. It's like very small, limited worldview. But regardless, he continues to yap hysterically and emotionally. Your opinion is irrelevant because you're not a man. The takes that these podcast hosts have are so overdone. Their whole job is to be a misogynist and they're not even really good at that because it's not creative, it's just very dumb. But in it, Macy responds. My Name's Macy. I'm 22. I'm from upstate New York, from a small town called Fort they ask. Highest level of education completed. I have my bachelor's in business from the University of Albany. Right now I'm a bottle girl and I kind of resell things, you know, like sneaker drops, you know, shit like that. But I'm getting my real estate license. She also says, I'm celibate, I swear to God. And then she kisses her hand and sends it up to God. I'm just on a different timing. I'm just here to get opportunities and money and shit like that. After sitting through the entire hour, I think it was an hour and a half of the two smooth brained co hosts like giggle gaggling, sharing their quote unquote independent thoughts that are just spoon fed. Basic red pill rhetoric you can find in one Google search or on Reddit. Macy says this about them. I like this. You know, it's cool what you guys are doing. No, seriously, I like, you guys definitely have a strong mindset and I like how you know, you go hard, you know, you make it hard for us to have our own opinion and like good for you.

Guest (33:51)

Wait, she said you, you make it hard for us to have own opinions and good for you.

Host 1 (33:56)

She, she does make it clear that she does not agree with their viewpoints. But the same thing that can be applied for the Red pill podcast host and Macy is there's a quote. Okay, it goes. Remember when you are dead, you do not know that you are dead. It is only painful for others around you. The same applies for when you are stupid. These are the podcast host, this is Macy. They're all on the same side. There are a lot of things that just kind of happen on a day to day basis that improve our lives tenfold and don't require much thought. They just kind of work so well. It feels like magic, like Bluetooth, wi fi. I cannot explain to you exactly how it works, but I know that I love it and I need it every single day. And one of the best things to improve my life tenfold Something that works so well, it's both literally and metaphorically magic is Shopify. Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. 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It's like a factory line of people. Next up, judge reads through his paperwork. Arthur Booth. Charges include burglary, grand theft, fleeing, resisting arrest. Hi, Mr. Booth. How are you? I'm okay, ma'am. You actually have three arrest affidavits, Reckless driving, damage to property, leaving the scene of a crash with serious injuries. He looks confused. With no serious injury. I'm sorry. No serious injury. The Bond on count one is $7,500. And she's about to read off the rest of the bonds, but she looks down at the paperwork, looks up at the defendant, Arthur Booth, and starts writing things down. Okay, Mr. Booth, I have a question for you. Yes, ma'am? Did you go to Nautilus for middle school? Oh, my God.

Guest (39:12)

I was just looking at this case.

Host 1 (39:14)

He says yes. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. And you see Mr. Booth look very happy and surprised, and then he starts crying and rubbing his head. A lot of netizens believe in the first few moments, it's nice to see someone that you grew up with, especially in a rough situation. But also then to get hit with the Reality of what's happened to you versus what happened to them and how things used to be.

Guest (39:38)

Yeah.

Host 1 (39:39)

He leans forward. He's hiding his face. He. He starts sobbing and Judge Glaser continues. I'm sorry to see you here. I always wondered what happened to you, sir. He starts wailing, oh, my goodness. And he's crying. Listen, guys, this was the nicest kid in middle school. He was the best kid in middle school. I used to play football with him and all the kids and look what happened. I'm so sorry. He keeps sobbing. Oh, my goodness. Apparently, he used to be a promising student, but he fell into drugs, gambling addiction, which really set his life off course. One that is in comments, he wasn't crying because she recognized him. He was crying because right at that moment, he realized what he had become. Another comment reads, I think the realization that at some point, more or less, they were equal in some regard, going to the same school. I mean, obviously we don't know their personal environments. But then they took opposite paths. I'm sure with different circumstances, he could have been the judge, and that must hit you really hard. That's what Judge Mindy Glaser has gone viral for. For Macy's case. However, the judges are not nearly as empathetic. In court, the judge is reviewing her case and realizes that Macy wasn't even supposed to be in the car that day because she doesn't have a freaking driver's license. Furthermore, even if she wanted one, she couldn't get one because she's banned from getting a license. Her license has been suspended indefinitely. We don't know why, but we can imagine it's not a good reason. There's this quick back and forth between Macy's attorney and the judge where the attorney states, she doesn't pose a danger to the community. She's a college graduate. She's been in the state of Florida, your honor, for over almost two years. So I don't think that there's anything to suggest that she's a flight risk. To which the judge responds, she is an absolute danger to the community based on the killing and driving when she shouldn't have been in a car, and she's clearly impaired based on her statements. And if it wasn't for the citizens or witnesses nearby who stopped her, she would have completely fled. So it seems like she was running away in her red hoodie, sees the crowd of people running towards the scene, and it doesn't sound like anyone says anything to her, right? I don't know. The CCTV footage of the street level camera after the car accident where she's running away from the scene, it doesn't seem like someone says anything. It seems like she joins them because she knows she sticks out like a sore thumb running in the opposite direction.

Guest (41:57)

Why are they running?

Host 1 (41:58)

They saw the crash. They're trying to help. They're just.

Guest (42:00)

Oh, really?

Host 1 (42:01)

Pedestrians, Joggers that are like, oh, my God, we gotta go. And they're running to the scene of the crash. So she u turns, runs with them, goes back to the scene of the crash, but manages to take a turn and starts running away. She takes off her top. Maybe in her. Who knows what state she's in. Maybe in that state, she thought, okay, that red hoodie is so red, people are going to remember it. So I got to take it off. I don't know if that's what happened. That's just a presumption. Takes it off, tries to get into somebody else's car. The construction workers stop her. Then the police come and they're like, what are you doing? That's how she gets caught. But if none of these people had done anything, she would have just fled.

Guest (42:40)

Right, right, right. She could have ran away, but instead she's like, super. She's thinking under the influence. So she's doing a lot of weird stuff.

Host 1 (42:48)

It's like, she's doing a lot of weird stuff, but clearly the motive is to flee. I think even her joining the crowd is a pretty conscious decision. I think if you're really out of it, you would just lay there on the scene and be like, oh, my God, I'm dead.

Guest (43:02)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a lot of weird, weird, fleeting.

Host 1 (43:05)

Yes. So while I do think that. I mean, just from my unprofessional knowledge of watching the body cam footage, she does seem high on drugs. Right. But it's very fascinating that she still makes heavy conscious decisions to flee, to get away with the crime.

Guest (43:23)

Yeah.

Host 1 (43:24)

Multiple times. Even the aspect of thinking, if I'm running this way and all these people are running that way, I should probably join them. That is very. That's meticulously planned.

Guest (43:36)

Yeah.

Host 1 (43:37)

The chain reaction crash that she caused killed Abraham and his friend Jesus while they were both on their way to work. Her counts are two counts of dui, manslaughter, aggravating factor of failure to render aid. One count of DUI causing bodily injury to another. One count, reckless driving causing serious injury. Three counts of driving without a driver's license resulting in injury or death. Two counts vehicular homicide caused by failure to stop One count of leaving the scene of an accident involving death. It seems like the defense is going to try and argue that Macy was not in her faculties during the time of the crime because she was on pink cocaine. It appears that that will be quite a difficult thing to defend because regardless of the drug, she should not have been behind the wheel, she should have not taken the drug, she should have not fled the scene. The defense might even try to argue that technically she was not fleeing or leaving the scene of the accident. They might also try to claim that she was involuntarily intoxicated, that she was drugged, but she did herself admit that she took pink cocaine. Pink Toosie if you will. So I'm not sure how that's gonna play out. It would also heavily impact her case considering she was driving home from a party. She's not supposed to drive. She drives to a party, does drugs, drives back home. Those are a lot of decision makings that's happening.

Guest (44:52)

Wait, that happened 6, 6:40am you say.

Host 1 (44:55)

6:45Am she was driving home at 6:45am and since then Juanita has been unable to work since the incident. She is the driver of the Suzuki her husband and his friend passed and I'm sure the idea of even driving to work will become this never ending battle against PTSD. She says Abraham's 16 year old son has been left without the love and care of his father who was his entire world. I am now unable to work due to my injuries and the boy's life has been turned upside down. Abraham's mother who lives in Nicaragua, suffers from Parkinson's disease and is now not only grieving but also left without the financial support from her son. Juanita said that she went to court to see Macy during the bond hearing and quote it felt horrible seeing her. She didn't look remorseful. She's a dang to society. Those are the thoughts and things that are going on in Juanita's life. But as for Macy, if you find her Instagram which is still active, her bio reads that she is quote one of one Gemini lit in real life money emoji on my brain emoji. One netizen comment reads she will now be modeling only in orange jumpsuits. A lot of netizens are also calling her out for her self proclaimed status as a model. They comment anyone with a cell phone camera now equals model model. Another reads what does she model? A shitty personality. Unfortunately for Macy her most too viral pictures that she is known for as a model now are one her mugshot and two, another of her posing in front of her dented Mercedes before the accident. The caption reads, 24 birthday cake emoji aging like fine wine.

Guest (46:44)

Wow.

Host 1 (46:45)

Other netizens have pointed out to this one part in the body cam footage where Macy is being pulled out of the ambulance and she tries to tell the paramedics the devil is real. And netizens comment, yeah, and it might be you. And that is the case of what has been going on with Macy Lathers, the girl that was on the Red Pill podcast. Self proclaimed Instagram model that ended up killing two people, people on pink cocaine. And it I think with this and with the Diddy case, there are a lot of mainstream news outlets now reporting the dangers of pink cocaine. And it's only getting more popular in party cities. New York City, Louisiana, Miami are like the hot spots. So be careful because it's just. You don't even know what's in there. How can you even recreationally do that if you don't know what it is?

Guest (47:38)

So because it's not cocaine. It's very misleading.

Host 1 (47:41)

It's like it could be anything. And the minute that they start adding more fentanyl into it, if not already, I mean that, that could kill a lot.

Guest (47:50)

They don't know what she's actually on. Right. Like they didn't test her because she said they did.

Host 1 (47:55)

Oh, just a lot of different drugs, but alcohol is not one of them.

Guest (48:00)

Wow.

Host 1 (48:01)

Yeah. So I mean when you test for like 2C, it doesn't come up pink cocaine. It comes up like ketamine, MDMA and.

Guest (48:07)

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because she was in what a state that she was in. You know, that's so terrifying. That's what happens when you don't know what's going on at all.

Host 1 (48:16)

Yeah. This was very strange. I know the Stephanie Malgoza case where she was drunk driving. It's very different. This was truly. There's same and different. This was different in the sense there are moments where it's very strange to watch. And her tone of I'm from the future while this is all happening is very creepy.

Guest (48:37)

Yeah.

Host 1 (48:38)

Like there's two people who passed away a block away that you caused. And it's just I'm from the future.

Guest (48:45)

And we don't know how long she's doesn't. It's still ongoing.

Host 1 (48:48)

Yeah, she's gonna head into, I think pretrial hearings soon. And that is the case as of right now. What are your thoughts? And please stay safe and I'll see you in the next one.