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All The Emails Between Bill Gates & Epstein + Bill Gate's Mistress Speaks Out
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One day before Nancy, mother of news anchor Savannah Guthrie, goes missing, the DOJ releases the largest, single dump of documents in the history of the Epstein case. Over 3.5 million pages. More than 2k videos. Approximately 180k images. A little over 24 hours later, Nancy vanishes and the internet starts connecting some dots, suggesting strings were pulled to ensure her disappearance monopolized the national news stage instead of the most recent Epstein files dump. Netizens cite Savannah Guthrie’s 2019 interview with 6 of Epstein’s survivors including Shante Davies who was pictured with the former US president Bill Clinton and the now late, Virginia Guiffre. The dateline special was Virginia’s first ever televised interview, where she sat across from Savannah and specifically implicated Prince Andrew in Epstein’s trafficking ring. So is the timing of Nancy’s disappearance just coincidental or is there something deeper at play? Most importantly, what exactly is in these...
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Doing what?
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Just hanging out. Oh, so there's that. I mean, you know, he can't say that he had no clue about Epstein's crimes and that he failed to do
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a quick Google search on, like, on these photos. Do you know who. Where are those photos from? Is someone just there constantly with a digital camera?
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Yeah.
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B
That's so bizarre. Okay.
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What a lot of people have been doing is a lot of these billionaires, especially in the United States, pretty much anyone, any of the tech founders. Richard Branson, Bill Gates, everybody likes to say, I've never fucking heard of Google. I did not know as a billionaire I should even Google the company that I keep. It doesn't make sense to anyone because even I, who am not a billionaire, I'm a nobody. Okay. I meet someone new, I might Google them, especially if I know nothing about them. And if they're claiming to be a billionaire, I'm definitely going to Google them.
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Oh, you're saying they never Google Epstein
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After 28,008, we never really looked into. We didn't know his past. I just thought he was some rich guy. You're telling me that people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, people who have bunkers, are not security clearancing everyone in their path.
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B
Mark Zuckerberg is in there too?
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Well, he had a dinner. He was in the files. His name comes up a few times. His spokesperson has stated that it was just a dinner along with other, like, key investors and tech entrepreneurs. Elon Musk. Like, you're telling me these people don't Google people, though? Musk has not. I don't think that he said that he didn't Google. He's just been very vague about it. So there were emails where he's asking, like, practically begging Epstein to go on the island for the craziest party ever. Like, this is. I mean, this is crazy, because all these other billionaires, they have very roundabout ways of being like, you are such a good friend. Elon Musk is like, I want to go to the island. I want the craziest party of my life. And everyone's like, you're filthy and disgusting. I don't know what's going on. He's come out, and his only, like, statement, I think, is that, hey, so I've been promoting the Epstein files being released. So it's. Yeah, these people are so bizarre. You cannot tell me that none of them have anything.
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You say he's never got invited.
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Yeah, basically. More, yeah. But Peter Mendelsohn cannot say that he never Googled Epstein because he wrote an email to EPSTEIN June of 2008. And this is when Epstein goes to jail on his work release program. Mandelson emails him, I think the world of you. I feel hopeless and furious about what has happened. I can still barely understand it. It just could not happen. In Britain. You have to be incredibly resilient, fight for early release, and be philosophical about it as much as you can. The whole thing has been years of torture. And now you have to show the world how big a person you are and how strong your friends stay with you and love you. Then in Norway, you have the former Prime Minister of Norway, Jaglund. I don't know if the J is pronounced like that there, but Jaglund. And according to email correspondence, he arranged family visits to Epstein's residences in Paris, New York, Palm Beach. This is all after Epstein's 2008 conviction. And Jaglan had a whole plan to take his entire family to Epstein's island, but it was canceled because Epstein was sick. There are so many people in the files that have come out, and they're like, hey, you guys are wrong. I've never been to the island. And then the emails get released, and it's always Epstein canceling on them, and they're trying to go to the island.
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That's crazy.
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According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gates and Epstein both went to Jaglan, the former Norwegian Prime Minister's house, to talk about Bill Gates work in eradicating polio, which, let's be real, Jaglan was the chair of the Nobel Peace Prize committee. And allegedly, Epstein told someone at the Gates foundation that he's very friendly with, quote, the Norwegians and could help Gates win the Nobel Peace Prize. According to the Wall Street Journal. However, I will note a Gates spokesperson states, Mr. Gates has never been focused on or campaigned for the Nobel Peace Prize or any other prize. Which is exactly something someone says when they don't get one. Meanwhile, in the US there have been a string of resignations, but nothing that really means anything to the victims, like no meaningful change or impact. Just rich people retiring early. Representative Thomas Massie states, over two dozen people have resigned CEOs, members of government worldwide. But I haven't seen any arrests or investigations here in the United States from this Justice Department. And it's because a lot of people in positions of power do not think that there is anything to be done here. Kash Patel has basically stated to Congress that Epstein just trafficked girls to himself that there is no credible evidence that anybody else is guilty. He states that he would have brought the case yesterday if there was any credible evidence that Epstein trafficked victims to anyone but himself. Also, this is the same person that went on podcasts to doubt that Epstein self exited. Kash Patel has even stated to a right wing podcaster in the past before he became the director. You don't think that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress night and day to prevent the disclosure of that list? And now he says there's no list. What list? He says of government officials. Put on your big boy pants and let us know who these pedophiles are. This was before he became the director and now it's there's no one to charge. He only trafficked him to himself. That's it. Now with that being said, we're going to go into the other big names in the US that have come up in the files. And this is not me saying that they are guilty of trafficking, that Epstein trafficked victims to them. The sequence of events in this video just happened in this way that it's right after that segment. But literally nobody has been charged and convicted of anything related to Epstein that I'm about to talk to you about. Richard Branson of Virgin Airlines, whom just lost his wife and a lot of people were showing him much love and comfort during that time period. He. He's in the files. Does that imply guilt? That's not at all what I said, but there is an email from Richard Branson to Epstein that reads, dear Jeffrey, it was really nice seeing you yesterday. Which by the way, Richard Branson has an island in the. Oh yeah, yeah, the Virgin Islands. Yeah. Okay. The boys in water sports can't stop speaking about it anytime you're in the area. Would love to see you as long as you bring your harem, what then? Five bullet points? I think if Bill Gates was willing to say that you've been a brilliant advisor to him, that you slipped up so many years ago by sleeping with a 17 and a half year old woman and were punished for it, you've more than learned your lesson and have done nothing that's against the law since. And yes, as a single man, you seem to have a penchant for women, but there's nothing wrong with that. Anyway, something along those lines. 2. 20th September, sadly I'm in the UK that week. 3. I'll copy Peter Norris. Is there a similar transaction you'd recommend today? Four, we definitely should be using all the information we gain worldwide to trade currencies and trade oil. If you find anybody you recommend for us, that would be great. But I'll start looking again. I'll copy Peter Norris. Okay. The other parts, financially speaking, some people are like, that sounds suspicious. Like what are you saying? Okay. But more than that, the whole Bill Gates thing. Okay, Yeah. A spokesperson for Richard Branson has stated that Richard Branson has used the word harem to refer to adult woman that he brought along, not underage girls and children. The email is from 2013. So there is publicly available information about Epstein's crimes by this point and he even notes it in the email. Like just writing about one of his crimes. Bill Gates could say this about you, that you slept with a 17 and a half year old woman. And a lot of netizens feel like the fact that he even said 17 and a half is so disgusting. Like that tells you what kind of person this is. And these people are fucking old when this is happening.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Bill Gates has obviously been heavily in the news for the allegations that he contracted an STI from a Russian woman that he was having an affair with and wanted to get meds for himself and meds to secretly give to his then wife, Melinda Gates. He has denied those allegations and just he's been in the news for.
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What do you mean he denied those allegations? Wasn't that email.
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Oh, okay. So I'm going to explain it to you. It gets a little complicated. Right? And that's. I mean even the emails, a lot of people are hiding behind. Some emails could display wrong metadata. There's like a whole thing. Yeah, yeah, the metadata. But overall Bill Gates has been in the news for just being chummy with Epstein. Bill Gates has since apologized to his staff for having two separate affairs with two different Russian women whilst being married to Melinda Gates. I did have affairs. One with a Russian bridge player who met me at bridge events, and one with a Russian nuclear physicist who I met through business activities. He states that Epstein later discovered these affairs, but these affairs do not involve Epstein's victims. And then he says that Epstein basically tried to blackmail him with the information. In one email, Epstein writes to a mutual of Bill Gates and Epstein. He writes that if the affairs go public, quote, Bill risks going from the richest man to the biggest hypocrite, Melinda. A laughingstock. Pledges will disappear as a result. Another email is basically Epstein shaming Bill Gates for allegedly being cheap with his mistresses. Writing. So he's talking about the mistress, Bill Gates mistress. I sent her that note. She said she had little money, couldn't afford air conditioner, was living on a friend's couch, really needed money. I sent her some money. Your friend Bill is nuts. His former girl can't afford air con, cannot afford to travel to bridge tournaments. She said that Sharon Osbourne used to arrange. The lawyer helped her with paper, so she is okay, but broke. That story would take Trump off the front pages. The richest man in the world is so cheap, his former bridge girl and toy lives on a friend's sofa. Wow. Wow. Who is this email even to? Which, by the way, the Russian bridge player. A lot of netizens are like, she's a honeypot for the Russians because she was pictured with an infamous Russian spy. Anyway, we're gonna get there in a second. Okay, but who is this email even to? There is so much. This email is to a man named Boris Nikolic. And Boris created Biomatics Capital. But before all of that, his main role was he worked as a scientific advisor for Bill Gates and worked for Bill Gates private office. Boris is also really close with Epstein. Like, really, really, really close to Epstein to the point where he was listed as a backup executor for Epstein's will just days before Epstein died. Apparently when Boris decided he was gonna stop working with Bill Gates and he wanted to start his own company. He wanted Bill Gates to fund his company.
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B
Of course.
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Right? But does Bill Gates want to fund his company? Listen, Bill Gates PR is the most insane shit that I' seen in my life. So out of curiosity, I. I found this book that was written ages ago. Ages ago. Okay. And I was listening to this, like, podcast that was talking about this book on Bill Gates, and I found it really intriguing because I was like, that doesn't sound like the Bill Gates that I always see in the news. It just, you know, they were talking about How Bill Gates was fucking ruthless when he first started Microsoft. He was brutal. Everybody was scared of him. He had this penchant for being someone that was a nightmare to work with. Like the things that you hear about people like Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, like this is what he was saying about Bill Gates. And I was like, oh, that's very interesting because Bill Gates is all about saving the world these days. So I'm like, I never really. He see the white graying hair and he always has like a soft demeanor. Like very not Jeff Bezosy. Not haha, I'm gonna take over space vibes. What's going on? I try to buy the book, can't find it anywhere. So I'm like, now, now I feel like I need to read the book for research purposes because I'm getting freaked out. Why can't I buy it anywhere? And so I ordered it off of ebay.
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B
Uh huh. So this book is written years and
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decades in the 90s.
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B
Okay.
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In the 90s they said that Bill Gates never washed his hair. He had dandruff. He was known for having dandruff all over his shirts, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Like I deal with dandruff too, but. But it was just. It paints him in a light that is vastly different from his public image these days.
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And the book cannot be found anywhere now. No longer in publish.
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Yeah, Like I couldn't find it at, you know, the local bookstore, but it is from the 90s. Couldn't find it even from like big retailers like Barnes and Noble.
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B
That's so interesting.
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Yeah. So I was like, now I need to read it.
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Who wrote it anyways?
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He's like a biographer. He has a second book about Bill Gates. I think that book is nicer about Bill Gates because that one you can buy, right? Oh, and then Bill Gates released his own book, Source Code, which I also bought because I was like, ooh, the minute I get free time, I'm gonna compare all three of them because I just want to see. Because now I got into. This is like a side quest that I try to go on, but no, it's weird.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They said that he was just ruthless. Ruthless. Yeah. But he's like the only one that has good pr. I mean, define good, but like that soft grandpa pr.
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Yeah.
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Versus like Jeff Bezos. I'm like, I'm definitely scared of you just looking at you.
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Yeah.
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That's insane.
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It ended up semi working. I don't know if blackmail is the right word to use. Boris says he has nothing to do with what Epstein was planning. Bill Gates invested in his company because they have a good relationship and Bill Gates believes in what he was doing. But it was in the range of like under $100 million. Was like the vibe. Which if you say under $100 million, I'm expecting $99 million. I'm not expecting $2 million or a dollar.
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Yeah.
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But side note, Boris has now come out to state again that he has nothing to do with this and that Epstein was doing whatever he wanted to do by himself. But Epstein starts Dr. That he's likely gonna want Boris to send to Bill Gates. So this is where it's confusing. So he keeps sending it to himself, but it's all written as if Boris has written them. But Jeffrey Epstein is Writing them. So it's like, imagine I'm trying to send an email to you. I'm gonna write it as if I'm you, but I haven't sent it to you to send yet. So I'm just, like, drafting it in my emails and then sending it to myself so I have an updated copy.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Right.
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One reads, I have decided to resign my position effective immediately, with BG3, which is their private office.
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So basically, all that to say. Yeah, Epstein has that type of control over Boris, right? Like, he can make Boris send whatever the hell he wants to send.
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And all that's to say is, unless, like, in my opinion, in my opinion, I know nothing about Bill Gates. So if I try to blackmail him, it won't work. Not that this worked, but it won't work because none of the information I have on him is true, because I don't know him. Blackmail only works when the information is slightly relevant. Maybe it's twisted and exaggerated, or it's like, that's not what really happened, but the optics already look bad. But, like, you can't do it. Pulling something out of your ass.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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So he says, I've decided to resign my position, effective immediately. With BG3 and the bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, I have not come to this decision quickly or without a great deal of thought. During the past few weeks, I've been caught up in a severe marital dispute between Melinda and Bill. So this is condensed, but quote, in my role as his right hand, I had been asked on multiple occasions and in hindsight, wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that have ranged from the morally inappropriate to the ethically unsound, and had been repeatedly asked to do other things that get near or potentially over the line into the illegal. The things listed in the email are, he helped Bill Gates get drugs. It sounds like STD meds. He helped facilitate his affairs with married women, and being asked to provide Adderall for Bill Gates bridge tournaments, like, the nerdiest thing ever. Okay. But Boris states, these emails were not written on my behalf.
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B
What's bridge? I'm sorry?
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Bridge is like an old card game. It's like a strategy game with four players. It's like a card thing.
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B
Oh, so it's not a sport?
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A
Oh, no.
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B
Oh, I thought it was a sport.
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It's like if someone were to ask you to get Adderall for, like, a chess tournament.
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B
Okay, okay, got it.
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Yeah. And so Boris states, these emails were not written on my behalf or my request. Epstein inserted himself as a Mediator and then used lies to pursue his own agenda. But I guess netizens are wondering, even if it wasn't done with Boris's consent, which even that is up for debate to some netizens. But even if it was done without his consent, would Epstein just make things up out of thin air? And would Bill Gates even care if he did? Gates and his team believe that this is evidence that, quote, this is another example of Epstein's repeated attempts to claim a role in Gates orbit. Also, we do believe that Boris left and received funding from Bill Gates because he did email and copy Epstein on an email to confirm that he was receiving a wire transfer. The email reads, I see wire transfer for $5 million in advance. Okay. I don't know. I don't want to say dollars because there's no dollar sign in the email, so don't sue me. But it says, like, I see wire transfer for 5m advance. I'm assuming it's dollars. It could be something else. I'm scared. Just started showing processing thank you in all caps. So, like, I don't know.
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B
Thank you to Bill Gates.
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No, thank you to. He copied like a different person. And then he copied Epstein.
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B
Epstein, wow.
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Yeah. Inside there is a video of the bridge player, the Russian bridge player, talking about Bill Gates during a bridge conference. So she's the one that had an affair with Bill Gates. She was in her early 20s when she met Bill Gates. There's a picture of them together. She looks really young and like, early 20s. Yeah, you look young, but she looks really young for her age, too. That's not me saying that I doubt her age. I'm not doubting that. She was an adult at the time. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying she just looks young. That was an observation that I had had. Maybe it's jealousy, you call it whatever, right? But she quotes a very famous actress, Mae west, and she says, good sex is like good bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you better have a good hand. And she shows a picture of her and Bill Gates, and she says that she had always had plans to meet Bill Gates. Nobody believed her. And to give you some context, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are really big bridge players. Like, they've invested a lot of money into bridge tournaments. They go to bridge tournaments in, like, Washington, D.C. that's how they met. And they will fund bridge tournaments for schools, local schools. So they, they love bridge. They've always been very vocal, avid bridge players, which is why some netizens feel like she could be a Russian honeypot Russian being like, the Russian government sends people to go and have romantic relations with high profile people in other countries to get information for the opposing country, because that would be the perfect way. Or maybe I watched too many K dramas, I don't know. But also, she was pictured with a Russian spot. Anyway, but she says, quote, what do you. I'm gonna get into it. There's a whole Russian thing in a second. But she says, I played against him at the same table at the National Bridge tournament in Washington, D.C. i didn't beat him, but I tried to kick him in the leg. And now the top comment on that video now reads, bill heard good sex is like good bridge and just went for it. Or quote, bill told her, it's only micro when it's soft, babe. So Bill Gates has apparently apologized and stated to his Gates foundation staff, quote, I did nothing elicit. I saw nothing elicit. He alleges that the pictures that were released in the files with women whose face were redacted. That was after meetings with Epstein. He. Epstein's assistants wanted to take pictures with him, so he would take pictures with them because they're like, oh my gosh, Bill Gates, I'm such a huge fan of Microsoft. I don't know what you would say. Right, End quote. It was such a huge mistake to spend time with Epstein. I apologize to other people who were drawn into this. Because of the mistakes that I made, I never stayed overnight. He states that he never visited the island, though he did fly on a private jet with him and met with him in Germany, France, New York and Washington. But to his defense, I never stayed overnight, I guess. As for why he met up with Epstein in 2011 after his crimes were already pretty public, Bill Gates states that he did not properly check Epstein's background because, you know, he sees all these high profile people around Epstein, so he just assumes he's a high profile person. The way that these people scare me, I went through a rabbit hole, okay? The whole Bill Gates rabbit hole happened. And then I started just like buying books on some of these other people because I'm like, they scare me. We should at least know, like, when Oracle. I bought a few books on Larry Ellison because I'm like, Oracle's taking over TikTok. You get the whole vibe and the Paramount. Anyway, these people will study their enemies to every little, every core of their being, every cell of their body, just to dismantle them. And these are not big enemies. It's not like Microsoft Going after big companies. You're talking about the little fish of the sea. Because that's just how these people tend to operate. If you're small up and coming, they will dismantle you for game at the itself. And you're telling me you never googled Epstein?
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B
Yeah, they don't care.
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He says knowing what I know now, you know, makes it a hundred times worse in terms of not only his crimes in the past, but now it's clear there was ongoing bad behavior, he says, about Melinda Gates. To give her credit, she has always kind of been skeptical about the Epstein thing, which, like, yes, she has been vocally so. But also some people think it's kind of like, well, you'll kind of see it with the Clintons later, where a lot of men are using their wife, propping up their wives now or ex wife now, but it still benefits them, you know, because it is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Melinda can continue the legacy. Same with Hillary Clinton. You know, Bill Gates is like, you guys shouldn't even be talking to my wife. She's never even interacted with Epstein. But it still is going to be beneficial for Bill Clinton. So it's just, it's kind of an annoying feeling, probably for women, not those women specifically, but women. And though ultimately he admits to no wrongdoing, there's just continuous building suspicion against Bill Gates. Then, you know, sometimes we the people are very strange. Not as strange as anyone in the emails, but we spend our time doing very odd things, like waiting in line for things just to hope we like it. Like a protein bar. There's this protein bar. It comes in like a gold wrapper. We tried it. I ordered a bunch. Okay. I ordered three bars in New York, too.
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B
I'm confused. What are we talking about?
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The little protein bars in the pantry, they're gold foil. I was like, you should eat the protein bar.
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B
Yeah, I did eat it.
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A
How did you like it?
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B
It just tastes like those really healthy protein bars.
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So this was a big hyped protein bar, David's protein bar. They launched in 2024, and when they launched, there were 40,000 customers on the waitlist. The first week, the protein bar.
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B
40,000 customers on the waitlist, A wait
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list for a protein bar. Why the first week, a million dollars in sales. Because the protein bar is 150 calories and it has 28 grams of protein. Nearly unheard of. This is insane to get that much protein with that little calories.
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Okay.
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You can already imagine the type of crowd that you're getting. Workout obsessed you're getting Pilates moms, you're getting all this crowd foaming at the mouth to pay for really expensive prote protein bars. People posted on Reddit saying, if it's too good to be true, it's because it is. None of my farts are safe now. Like, there were a lot of joking comments of, like, it's so dense, there's no way. Like, it just tastes creamy. How is it creamy? Some people are saying that they were diarrheaing. But even with all of that, David Protein bars is valued at $725 million within a year of launching. And now it's become almost a meme. A Mean Girls meme. Regina George. Okay, okay, so in the movie Mean Girls, Regina George is the mean girl. And the main character, Katie, she gives her these protein bars and she's like, oh, these protein bars help you lose weight. So she only eats these protein bars. But then turns out they're basically like extra calories. Extra calories. And so there was a consumer lab testing done on the protein bar, and instead of 150 calories, each bar was allegedly 229 calories. And you have to understand, many of the people who consume David's protein bars are tracking their macros. They track their calorie count. And instead of the two grams advertised on the label of fat, one bar showed in testing that instead of 2 grams, there was 9.7 grams of fat in one singular bar and only about 23.6 grams of protein rather than 28 grams of protein. Which leads to a class action calorie lawsuit being filed against David Protein. It's just been damning across the board. Usually the FDA will allow some leeway. So the nutrition labels, there's no way that it's exact and they give about a 20% leeway. You can be 20% wrong, but most food labels, they stay within like a good lower percentage. But David protein bars, some of them were tested at 271 calories after being advertised as having 150 calories. However, I will note this is huge. David Protein is fighting this. They are reportedly planning to counter sue and they state that the lab tests are simply wrong. And it's because they use a very special ingredient, epg, and it's non digestible, so it actually cannot be metabolized by the body. So the way that calories are tested, the way that they're saying the other people have been testing it, they're looking for energy output, whereas there's some energy in there that is not going to be metabolized by the human body.
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Okay.
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So you're not actually, if you're not metabolizing the calories, you can't count that as the calories. Right. But that, weirdly, is not the biggest scandal to hit David's protein bars recently. The biggest scandal is Peter Attia. The chief science officer for David Protein bars is in the files. Peter Attia has always been occasionally controversial in the longevity space. Who? You know, he was on the quest of trying to. The doctor.
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The famous.
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Yeah. Mm. Peter Attia. Okay.
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Wow.
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He was on the quest of figuring out why are Americans so fat. Those are the major headlines involving Peter Attia for the longest time. Those are the words they use. And I don't know, maybe because we're all depressed eating, because nobody's being held accountable or really investigated for even being in the Epstein files. And maybe we're not fat, maybe we're just not invisible to the naked eye. Okay. But he has a small bespoke clinic of high paying clients you can't even get in unless you're someone with deep, deep pockets like Hugh Jackman.
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Is he.
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Yeah, the X Men. Yeah, and tech founders. And I'm not saying Hugh Jackman knows about any of this. Like these emails are between Peter Attia and Epstein, you know, but he's the longevity guy for the rich. Go get a $3,000 elective MRI scan. Go spend X amount of money on this and that and this and that, and take time off of work to exercise. Obviously that's an exaggeration, but that's where much of the controversy at least is from the beginning. Peter Attia wants to say, if you're not even going to invest in your health, what are you going to invest in? Like he's that type of guy. So what the hell are you doing with Epstein? June 2015, Peter Attia sends Epstein in an email. The subject line is got a fresh shipment. The picture that he includes in the email is Metformin bottles.
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Metformin? What's Metformin again?
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It's, I think it's like the anti diabetic prescription drug that people would take for longevity. It's like one of the longevity ones along with like the elective GLP ones that everyone who wants to be fucking immortal takes these days. And I'm like, why do you want to live forever? The world is ending. This is crazy. We're just trying to live to tomorrow. And you guys want to live until you're 2000 years old. Epstein responds, me too. And he sends a photo of A woman that is redacted. Peter responds, please tell me you found that picture online. Bastard. Epstein responds, fraid not. Peter, you know the biggest problem with becoming friends with you, the life you lead is so outrageous and yet I can't tell a soul.
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That's crazy, man.
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Peter Atia also sends Epstein's assistant an email. I go into je withdrawal when I don't see him. Jeffrey Epstein withdrawal. Oh, okay. Peter idea is in the boat with like Elon Musk where it's like they're so desperate to be on Epstein's island.
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Has he. Okay, is there more about him?
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He also emails Epstein pussy is indeed low carb. Still awaiting results on gluten content though, which netizens were are disgusted commenting at him. You also have a daughter and also Peter Attia is a physician. He's not. He didn't go through residency because he dropped out to be like a longevity doctor, but so I don't know if he can actually practice in hospitals. That was like another controversy of his. Like, he's not like a real doctor. Like, why would you want him as your doctor if he can't operate on you or like help you in most major hospitals you go to anyway? For him to associate with Epstein after 2008 and then to talk about women's body parts like that while being a physician, while having a daughter, while being morally bankrupt, in my opinion, feels personally past the point of just being a bit alarming. Peter Attia has since posted a statement once these emails have gotten viral that reads, the following email is what I sent to my team last night. I sent a similar version to my patients also. And it's like this long little. My fault. My fault. Okay, but not really my fault. He expresses that he let everyone down, but also he was not involved in any criminal activity, that he was never on the plane, island or present at any service sex party. But he does admit to being at Jeffrey Epstein's New York City home on seven to eight different occasions. And he did email Epstein that he would like to visit the island. Quote, I need to visit sometime. So, Peter, I don't know if it's the fact that you didn't go to the island out of your own moral judgment, but rather you didn't get the invite. He also states that he never went to Zorro Ranch, which is the massive New Mexico compound that Epstein had, but again, he had planned a visit to the New Mexico ranch, but Epstein canceled on him. He also weirdly writes, I Met Epstein In 2014, a prominent female health care leader While I was raising funds for scientific research, introduced us. It's giving a little. It's always a woman's fault. Who cares who introduced you? He says, I'm not asking for a pass from you. I'm not asking anyone to ignore the emails or pretend they aren't ugly. They simply are. The man I am today, roughly 10 years later, would not write them and would not associate with Epstein at all. Whatever growth I've had over the past decade does not erase the emails I wrote then. I do want to note, when he wrote those emails, he was like 42 years old. So it's not like he was like a 12 year old boy. He was 42. Side note, there is a running theory backed by an email in the Epstein files where Peter Attia is emailing Epstein to confirm a meeting with him in New York City. And his wife is home in San Diego and their infant son just suffered from cardiac arrest. So Peter Attia is in New York City.
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Oh, my God.
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And he wrote about this in his book.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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He's in New York City working on business. His wife and his son are back home in San Diego, and his infant son suffers from cardiac arrest. And his wife is, I believe, thankfully a nurse and was able to like take him to the hospital, perform cpr. It was a whole thing. And she's begging him to come home. He said that he writes in his book that he, quote, I stayed in New York busy with my, quote, important work, redacted. Son, cardiac arrest happened on a Tuesday, but I did not come home to San Diego until Friday of the following week, ten days later. I mean, this is all like in the public eye. So people were able to find the exact dates that they think the cardiac arrest happened because, you know, it's a big life event. They've been talking about it before. Yeah, they cross referenced with the emails. And while he's in New York, he's emailing Epstein to meet with Epstein while his son is under cardiac arrest.
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That's crazy.
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Also in his overly long, rather full of shit and carbs statement, he's got a thing with carbs. Anyway, he says that he didn't know Epstein was a bad person. He never googled him, I guess. But in 2018, the Miami Herald came out with an expose on Epstein. And that's when Peter Attia, he says, was repulsed. He said, I was disgusted. Insert dramatic word that he probably doesn't ever mean. That's what Peter says. But there are emails where four days after the Miami Herald investigation is published, Peter Attia emails Epstein in a thread titled are you in Florida? And he asks you know what is the fallout from the recent story. Epstein responds same as usual, just tougher. Legally, any change? 0 Peter Attia appears to have stepped down from David protein bars AG1 and 8 sleep where he was all on like a. Wow. He was also like a CBS consulting correspondent along with he was like the newest round of announcements along with Andrew Huberman and yeah, on what CBS. Yeah. 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Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com rotten go to shopify.com rotten that's shopify.com rotten. Now. Other key resignations include Brad Karp, chairman of Paul Weiss law firm, which this is like a huge big law law firm. He resigned from his chairmanship after 18 years. And people like a lot of people were making a big deal about it because it's like, oh, finally justice, right? He still remains at the firm as a partner. He's making a shit ton of money. And also apparently he had been planning on stepping down his chair even before all of this because he suffered from a heart attack last January. So this isn't even something that he's having to do for justice.
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What did he do? Just emailing or.
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Yeah, and I believe he was at one point representing Leon Black. Remember the Head of Apollo, the hedge fund that Epstein was like, if I were you, I'd give me $40 million, remember? But Brad Karp has also been seen in the files emailing Epstein, not about Leon Black, but quote, jeffrey, I can't thank you enough for including me in an evening I'll forget. It was truly, quote, once in a lifetime in every way. Though I hope to be invited again. You are an extraordinary host and your home. Dot, dot, dot, exclamation, exclamation. Thanks again. See you soon. Brad Epstein responds, you are always welcome. There are many, many nights of unique talents. You will be invited often. Then Brad Karp responds, you are amazing. Thank you. And I don't know, for all the alarming reasons, he wanted perhaps to use nepotism. This is a weird one to get his son in a Woody Allen movie. So Epstein has always been very good friends with the disgraced filmmaker Woody Allen, and he says, jeffrey, can I raise a personal issue with you concerning my son David? As I mentioned, he graduated Cornell last weekend and is hoping to work on interesting projects and make films this year and then hopefully attend NYU in the fall of 2017. David is working on a project for a Peruvian company in Lima from mid June through mid July. He would love to work in any capacity capacity with Woody on his upcoming film project, if that's a possibility. He certainly doesn't need to be paid and he's a really good, talented kid. Thanks so much, Brad. Then you have Faith Cates, who owns a modeling agency that represents a ton of incredible models. Obviously she's not a reflection of those models or the talent. And then she also represents, like Diplo, I don't know. She's since retired, but the emails have been released and of course she writes to Epstein. I know you don't believe this, but I really do love you like a brother. Is your brother a trafficker too? Perhaps. And I feel so sad this is happening. Lay very low and quiet. You should know who your friends are. The rest are a piece of crap.
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The fuck? Like, when did she send this?
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After his 2008 conviction. But these are all just. There's a bunch of other resignations. But these are all just resignations. These are rich and typically old people taking early retirement. And those are just the business people. That's not taking into account. Count all the failed parts that made Epstein who he is. A tiny group of people are resigning. But what about everything else, like the system itself? It's revealed through the files that back in 2015, the DEA Drug Enforcement Administration opened An investigation into Epstein and at least a dozen other individuals. They were investigating money laundering, drug trafficking, funding, and distributing ecstasy, ketamine, and methamphetamines. So the DEA is investigating additionally for Epstein's proclivity to procure Eastern European sex workers for high profile clients. That was another thing that was open in this investigation. Which begs the question, just how much did the feds know about Epstein's crimes? For how long? Because documentation of his crimes go back in the justice department to the 90s. Not even like, oh, to 2002, before the 2008 to the 90s. And if the feds knew about him, is it really believable that none of these high powered people knew anything about him? Him? Because I feel like. I feel like I would be more nervous for a background check to be a right hand person to someone like Bill Gates than a government background check.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm like, I feel like you'd be 20 times more thorough.
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Yeah.
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Though I will say the DEA investigation went through a secret unit. And it's the same unit that apparently had a lead role in capturing El Chapo. So this is like, I guess, a highly focused unit. And it doesn't seem like the feds at the DA thought that this was just a giggle gaggle, oh, look, this is a rich guy doing ecstasy with his rich friends type of situation. They even ran a target profile on Epstein, which they will go and scrub a person up and down. They'll get all their financial transactions and comb through them for any suspicious activity they're looking into. You. And his profile states illegitimate wire transfers which are tied to illicit drug and or process prostitution activities occurring in the US Virgin Islands in New York City. The memo notes that from 2013 to 2015, banks alerted the feds for about at least $5.7 million in potentially suspicious transactions regarding Epstein's accounts. Then apparently, in a separate investigation by the same secret unit of the dea, they were looking into human trafficking and drug trafficking tied to Russian organized crime. And Epstein's name comes up repeatedly in that case as well. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon states, to this day, there has not been a comprehensive follow the money investigation of Epstein's network performed by any federal law enforcement agency. I find that totally inexcusable. So now there's all these whispers about, is Epstein connected to Israel? Is Epstein connected to Russia? Because Bill Gates and Russian girls and there's a lot of Eastern European women that were victimized by Epstein. And the Epstein and Russia ties have only gotten stronger with the newly Released files because for years Epstein was trying to get a meeting with Putin himself. Remember, he was cozying up to the Prime Minister of Norway, saying things like, I know you're going to meet Putin on the 20th. He is desperate to engage Western investment in his country. I have his solution. Another email is a bit more enthusiastic and casual. Would love to meet with Putin, exclamation. But again, there's no evidence that the meeting of Epstein's dreams ever came to fruition. Putin's name appears more than a thousand times in the release files, but most of that are references from the news clippings and Epstein talking about Putin rather than any sort of meaningful correspondence. There is an individual, though, that has definitely raised a lot of alarms in the files. Belyakov. So Belyakov was the Russian deputy Economic Development minister and he becomes fast friends with Epstein. He would send him cryptic sounding emails that now, in my opinion, sound a bit ominous, but our meeting was really interesting for me. I do not know many people like you who can open new horizons and prospects. He also thanks Epstein at one point for a gift. But the most alarming email is Epstein emails Belyakov. July 24, 2015. I need a favor. There is a Russian girl from Moscow. She is attempting to blackmail a group of powerful businessmen in New York. It's bad for business for everyone involved. Suggestions? Now, there is a situation where Leon Black, Apollo hedge fund manager, he was blackmailed by a woman, a Russian woman that he had an affair with. But he says businessmen, so this could mean multiple. Maybe it's just referencing Leon Black. We don't really know. Epstein says that this woman was claiming ridiculous, nonsensical things that have never happened before in the history of this planet, such as, quote, powerful men taking advantage of women like her. Belyakov, according to the files, offers to meet up with someone who knows said woman and he alleges that she, that she's in the sex and escort business. And in another email drafted presumably for the Moscow woman, Epstein writes, I've decided to help you. However, I am very disappointed by the fact that you felt it necessary to threaten me. I think you should apologize to me. You and I have been together a long time, so I know you must have been quite upset to do such an outrageous thing. You should also know that I felt it necessary to contact some friends at fsb, which, which, okay, kind of, but not really, but just for simplicity's sake, is like the Russian FBI. They explained it to me that in no uncertain terms that especially right now when Russia is trying to bring in outside investors. As you know, the economy there sucks and desperately needs investment that a person that would attempt to blackmail a businessman would immediately become the enemy of the people and would be dealt with extremely harshly. So I expect never ever to hear a threat from you again again. That being said, I think $50,000 per month for the next two years, which would equate to $1.2 million. And I will help you get a visa is very generous if you decide to stay in Moscow. That's also okay with me. Wow. That's why I think it's a different businessman from Leon Black, because Leon Black had this whole. It was a big fiasco and he ended up paying quite a bit. And then countersued her attorneys. She was at one point he sued her and her attorneys. Doug Wigter's firm that represented Cassie Ventura in the Diddy case, I mean, it's still represent but like, you know. So a lot of Russian connections in the files. And another odd one is that when Trump takes office for the first time back in 2016, Belyakov sends Epstein a message. Congrats on your president. Epstein responds with one word, fun. And back to the bridge. Right. So. So unrelated to Trump, but the Russia connection, Bill Gates was having an affair with a Russian bridge player. She was photographed with Anna Chapman, who has been deported from the United States on charges of espionage. Basically, people believe that Anna Chapman is a Russian spy. That has led a lot of netizens to believe that perhaps Bill Gates mistress was also a honeypot sent by Russia. But that's just a personal thought. Netizens having. It's just been weird.
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Why is it called honey pot?
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It's like a honey trap. Yeah. And now, I mean, at this point, this is where I'm going to leave you with the second audio because there's going to be a third part to all of this where we're going to go through the depositions and what's been going on with Trump in the files. There's a lot there also there they want to subpoena. They haven't subpoenaed, but they do want to interview. So far, as of the day that I'm filming this, the House committee has stated that they want to interview one of the of the prison guards. A transcribed interview, a prison guard when Epstein died, because it just released in the files that she was googling him before he was found dead. There's so much happening in part three. But I'm gonna leave you with a few things to expect because Republican Representative Jamie Raskin along with a few others, Ro Khanna and others were able to view the unredacted files. So members of the House House Oversight Committee are allowed to come in and go through the files. Unredacted files. But apparently you can only have four members and there's only four computers and you can only be there from nine to five to view the unredacted files on those computers. Only that itself has been heavily criticized. Representative Jamie Raskin told Axios that he was able to go see the unredacted Epstein files and Trump's name was in there, quote, more than a million times it's been reported that Trump told a police chief at the time looking into Epstein in the early 2000s and allegedly told them, quote, everyone has known that he's been doing this and suggested that the police chief should also look into Maxwell as well because, quote, she's evil and to focus on her. That's what a lot of people are alleging. And. And there's more in the files about that that has been redacted as the allegation. And there's just there were like 16 pages that were not released that were later found and then reuploaded that have to do with Trump. And there's just a lot of allegations and just a lot of things that are going on. So with that being said, that is where I leave you with part one and part two, and I will see you in part three very, very soon. Stay safe.
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