Ashley Flowers (8:39)
Yeah, they're huddling, and the press pews are just trying to figure out. And I don't even know how this rumor, I don't know who started it. I don't know if it was valid. If it's not valid. I imagine, again, if this were true, we would have heard about it by now, because that would be a very big deal. But it's just like, we don't know. We don't know. That's what they said. And then they're like, I don't know. That's what she said. That's what he said. And then it's like, okay, the rumor kind of dies down. Because we're like, what are the odds of that? And then another rumor comes through. Okay, so we heard that Kanye west is trying to get in. And we're like, wait, what? What do you mean he's trying to get in? But that doesn't make sense, because if he's trying to get in, why would Diddy be so upset about it? Like, why would it cause an hour in the roping room? And then why would it cause him to be so passionately angry? And then also there's so many other questions, like, why the hell is Kanye here? Because sure, we can simply say that Kanye is trying to get into the courthouse to support Diddy, a friend. But it seems a lot deeper, perhaps even a lot darker than that, with a lot of people starting to speculate, well, it's because he's next that he's going to be the next one that the feds take down after Diddy. We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the New York Immigration Coalition. They're an umbrella policy and advocacy organization that represents over 200 immigrant and refugee rights groups throughout New York. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mango's growing team. And we'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support. As always, full show notes are available@roottenmangopodcast.com now some of the quotes and statements have been shortened, combined and condensed for brevity. Any and all observations in the courtroom were made by either my researchers or my in real time. However, please understand that these are just our own personal experiences. There are many people in the courtroom that might have had different experiences, different thoughts, different opinions. A few content disclaimers before we get started. Today's episode includes brief mentions of dv, physical and essay childhood essay sex trafficking. And additionally, there are discussions surrounding topics like racism, anti Semitism and hate speech. So please watch with caution, take breaks if you need to. And a few disclaimers about Diddy and Kanye, the people involved in today's episode. I mean, as we both know, Kanye has Not been indicted for any crimes. He has not been arrested. He has not been charged with any crimes. There are a few active civil lawsuits against him, but as of right now, those are just allegations at this point. Sean Combs as well, he has been charged. This is a sex trafficking trial, racketeering, RICO trial. However, he has not been convicted yet. So everyone is innocent until proven guilty. And in the most recent years, as some of you may know, Kanye has become incredibly anti Semitic, which is never okay. He has made so many public tirades involving antisemitism and hate speech. He genuinely has said things that are unfathomable to, like, come out of somebody's mind, let alone someone with that massive of a platform. I mean, Kanye's lore is almost as deep as Sean Combs lore and we would need 10 hours, a four part series to even truly cover and report report on it all. So for the purpose of this episode, we are specifically focusing on Kanye's actions, A few good, mostly bad, that relate to Kanye's involvement in Diddy's trial. So I want to be super clear that we are not intentionally ignoring these moments, nor are we trying to somehow minimize them by not including them. It's just it would take so long to go through every hateful thing that he's ever said about any group of people. So with that being said, let's get started. 2024 is a very, very bad year with Sean Combs. I mean, that much is clear. He's not having a good time, but it's also a very, very bad year for somebody else in the music industry, Kanye West. And interestingly enough, a lot of people think it's not a coincidence that Sean Combs is having a bad 2024 and Kanye west is having a bad 2024. It's all connected. And maybe Sean Combs is living on a faster timeline. That's what people are speculating, that maybe Kanye west, his trajectory is going to look oddly similar. So we're going to Skip January of 2024, but keep this in mind because something big happens in January of 2024 that involves both of the rappers. But skipping January for right now and going straight Into February of 2024, Kanye drops a new song. So at this point, February, Cassie has dropped her lawsuit four months ago, November of 2023, there has been no raids on Diddy's house. He hasn't been arrested. He's a free man. There's just been a lot of media controversy over her. Cassie's lawsuit know is that she's settled and that's about it. Everyone's wondering what's going to happen next. Is he just going to, like, wait for a comeback? We don't know. February of 2024, Kanye drops a new song called Carnival, which did end up peaking on the Billboard Hot 100 at the number one spot, which is kind of insane considering nobody thought Kanye could ever make a musical comeback after all the insane stuff that he's been saying online for, like, the past two years. A lot of people argue online that the song itself sounds good, but when you sit there and you listen to the lyrics, they're like, suddenly it's not so good. Okay, so first off, the first few lines on the song, there's one part that reads, pull up in the trenches, like Columbine, a reference to the school. However, that lyric is not rapped by Kanye, but nevertheless, in another verse, Kanye does indeed rap. Anybody pissed off? Gotta make him drink the urine. Now I'm Yay Kelly in reference to R. Kelly. Now I'm Bill Cosby. Now I'm Puff Daddy. Rich. That's me too, Rich. Side note. Yeah. By this point, like I said, all we know is that Cassie sued Combs and settled a day later. We have not seen the CNN video. Combs homes have yet to be raided. He has yet to be arrested. So it's an interesting mix to put those three people together in a song. R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, and Puff Daddy. Now, all three men have been accused of crimes. He also raps. This is for what they did to Chris. They can't do with this. It is believed that he's referring to Chris Brown for getting blackballed in the music industry after he physically assaulted Rihanna. Wow. So another reference that is not necessarily the most. I mean, look, I don't even know what these lyrics mean, but it doesn't appear to be great connections that he's drawing here. Like, those are not people that you want to be connected to. He also names dropped Taylor Swift, which this Carnival song, it has everybody mad for different reasons. So some people are pissed off because they're like, why are you bringing up Chris Brown and Rihanna? Some people are like, leave Rihanna alone. Other people are mad because they're like, why are you name dropping Taylor Swift? Like, her fans are like, leave her alone, please. Like, why?