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Part 1: "Puppet Master" Killer Set Up The Most Elaborate Murder Plan To Kill A Woman
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In the event of a break in, usually something of value is stolen from a house. But what if someone breaks into your home and steals a single, random item. Your hairbrush. Your pet’s ashes. Your family picture but leaves the frame. Your one spare house key? Daniel Krug, patriarch, calls the police after his wife, Kristil comes home and realizes that the spare key they keep hidden in their garage is missing. They could’ve just misplaced it right? With three young children at home though, the family doesn’t want to take any chances. Especially after Daniel, the father, remembers pulling into his driveway, before the key went missing, and saw someone jump their fence and take off running. If someone had broken into their garage, stole their spare key, and nothing else that can really only mean one thing right? They’re planning on coming back. Daniel reports it to the police and even gives his statement to the responding officer who visits his house. For nearly three months the ...
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Narrator/Host
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
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Co-host/Interviewer
Bada bing, bada boo.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
82 days before the murder there is a break in. And in the event of a break in, usually something is going to be stolen from the house. Most times it's going to be whatever that is within reach and is the most valuable. Nobody is breaking and entering, risking jail time to steal a can opener and the remainder of your laundry detergent. They want electronics. They want cash. They want things that they can resell and make money from. This is a literal cash grab with a side of trespassing. That's what most break ins are. It's devastating, but at least you know that. The motive is very clear. Whoever did this wants money. They're committing atrocious crimes to make money. But what if someone breaks into your house and they take something that is not of monetary value? They don't steal the $1,000 iPad that's in clear view. Or the phone or the car. They steal your journal that you write in every single day. It's not a password book. You don't have some sort of ledger for bitcoin in there. It's just like your deepest inner thoughts leather bound journal that financially would fetch no more than $10 on the market. Resold. Or what if someone breaks in and you check the entire house up and down? Nothing's been taken. Nothing. And it's not like they didn't have time. And then you. You walk by the console under your TV and there's the picture frame. The picture of your entire family that you framed last year during Christmas. The frame is still there, but the photo is gone. They had time to take the photo out of the frame, but they didn't take anything else. No valuables. What are they planning on doing with the picture? Or you go upstairs to try and collect yourself. You're about to shower, and in the drawer, your hairbrush is gone. It's missing. Or maybe they take that one magnet that you have on the refrigerator that you bought during your first time going to Yosemite. What the hell are they going to do with that or any of these things? These are the things that will keep people up at night. It's not just like the random violation of someone breaking into your home, which is typically the only private place that people can truly feel safe, but it's the fact that you don't know who did it. You don't know why they did it. It's clearly not for money. Then what is it for? Are they going to come back for the Krug family house in Colorado, it's even more alarming than all of those. Daniel Krug, the father of three kids and husband of Kristeel Krug, calls 911. Daniel's standing at the end of his driveway talking to the officer, and he's explaining, I mean, as I pulled in, I saw someone run out, jump over my gate, and take off that way. He walked in on this trespassing, on someone breaking and entering. Okay, got it. I didn't think to call you until my wife got home recently and we realized the spare key that we keep in the garage isn't there. So if someone breaks into your house and they only take the spare key, the only reason they would do that is to come back later. But to do what? Over the course of the next 82 days, it will be like the person who broke into that house never even left the house. Strange things are gonna start to happen to the Krug family, almost driving them to the point of being completely parano. And then finally, one of them is going to be killed in that very house. We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the national Network to End Domestic Violence. They are a nonprofit dedicated to ending relationship, workplace, and stalking violence. This episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mango's growing team, and we'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support. As always, full show notes are available@rogotten mangopodcast.com Today's episode includes mentions of stalking DV. So viewer discretion is advised. And please take Care, take breaks. And with that, let's get into it. When you read a lot of fiction books, there's going to be patterns that you're noticing. And it's not just like the tropes. It could be the seven point structure. The hero's journey. Save the Cat is like a popular one. It's the outline of the story. And oftentimes, I mean, I highly doubt authors are even using outlines like this. Save the Cat. Oh, I'm about to tell you. It's like a storyline. A lot of movies and books follow this exact point. Progress. It's like the progression of a story.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Right, right. Like third chapter breakup.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yes, like a third chapter breakup that I always complain about. It's like that. But like third chapter Breakup is maybe more so a trope. But this would like fit into the whole from start to finish. There's almost like an outline of ups and downs. And it's very interesting. I think it's because humans are comfort creatures. We enjoy stories with similar journeys, similar endings. The hero's journey is probably the most recognizable one in the us. Human hero's journey must start in the hero's ordinary world. We have to see the hero in their regular life before the adventure begins. They're bagging groceries at the grocery store. We have to see their family. We have to see what's at stake for the hero. Then there will be a call to adventure, usually not inviting. It's like they hear someone scream and they don't want to go investigate. They get a video that's like, you need to come save me. But they're scared. This is no adventure to Disneyland. It's typically a threat or a massive problem. The hero will refuse the call. They will hesitate. They'll try to go back to their ordinary life. But now they can't bag groceries without thinking about everything that they saw in that video. And they need to go save somebody. They need to be the hero. They're going to cross the threshold into the new world, letting go of the ordinary world. They're going to meet friends, make enemies, friends. Along the way, they get small tests. Then they'll meet a mentor. Usually the hero's journey has a mentor who's going to give them advice and tools. And then they'll start approaching the inmost cape. It's like they're getting closer. The hero's journey is almost like this palpable center, core of the universe type of fight. They're getting closer to the central challenge, or it's a lot of times a central location. Where the challenge is going to be. They're on a literal journey to the top of Mount Everest. Think of this as the part of the movie where they turn the exposure and the brightness down. And then you can't see anything anymore. Everything looks like it's filmed on a potato on a cloudy day. No more sun, more dread, doom, gloom. That's all you get. Then it's the ordeal, the life or death crisis. It's the death or rebirth that's the moment. And of course they're not going to die. They're going to be reborn. And then finally, that's the end of stage one. They receive a reward for surviving. Usually it's some sort of knowledge or reconciliation. It's not like a prize. And then the hero is going to try to go back into the ordinary world. But then the bigger fight happens. You thought the first fight was the big fight? No, this is the real fight. Their whole family is dead. Or something of that nature. It's the resurrection, the final test where everything is at stake. Everything learned up until this point must be used. And finally the hero returns home, transformed with knowledge, with gifts, with love. Ultimately different because they're a hero now. And then you have the similar and somewhat familiar Save the Cat. You introduce the protagonist to the world. The world is flawed and you can tell from the beginning it's flawed. And then a secondary character will say something to the protagonist. It hints at the entire journey the protagonist is going to take. Protagonist is like, I don't know. This is so dumb. She's like reading a romance book. And this old lady walking by, she's been divorced five times and is like, love is never dead. Then there's some sort of catalyst, some sort of incident that will be the protagonist's call to adventure. That's all part of Act 1. Then it's Act 2. For the first 20% of the act, protagonist is on the up and up. They're transforming, they're making friends. They're small hiccups, but they're B rollable. Meaning in a movie, they're usually learning how to use their newfound superpowers. But they superpower so hard that they accidentally fling themselves through the window of an elderly facility where all the senior citizens are playing bingo. And the music cuts. The senior citizen looks up, one of their dentures fall out. Protagonist gets up, brushes off the wrinkles in their shirt, and then they smile sheepishly. It's B rollable. And then it cuts to them walking in New York City, blending in with the normies before the Bad guys start closing in and then the stakes get raised and raised. It's all fun and games. But now something big is about to happen. The threat is huge and the threat is personal. Somebody took Grandpa. And then by the end of Act 2, Grandpa is dead. Act 3, the protagonist is at their lowest point. They're at the what's the point of even fighting anymore? They took Grandpa before they learn or they realize something or they find something in Grandpa's journal that was like, Stephanie, never stop fighting. You were made for this. And then it changes everything and it causes them to stand up. And that escalates typically to the happy ending, the finale, the end saving the cat, who they name after grandpa's favorite snack, black sesame rice crackers, which actually saving the cat is supposed to happen. In the beginning, it was like the whole theory where to show the audience that you should like the protagonist, the protagonist should do something like saving a cat early on in the movie. Movie or the book.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Okay.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
The point is, if you read a lot of bad fiction, you notice these frameworks. If you read a lot of good fiction, which most fiction is good, you won't even notice these frameworks because they either don't follow it to a T or they do it so well that it just feels like a brand new story in a brand new world. But ultimately, most books can be boiled down to the three act structure, which is how I'm going to boil down this case for you. Not because I think that this is reminiscent of a fictional storyline, but because somebody involved in today's case thought that their plan would play out like the movies. They even mentioned movies and fiction multiple times. So with that, let's get started. From Maggie Gyllenhaal and starring Academy Award nominee Jessie Buckley and Academy Award winner Christian Bale, comes the Bride. A lonely Frankenstein played by Christian bale travels to 1930s Chicago to ask a groundbreaking scientist to help him revive a murdered young woman played by Jessie Buckley. And the Bride is born on March 6th. Don't miss the Bride. Starring Jesse Buckley, Christian Bale and Peter Sarsgaard. With Annette Bening, Jake Gyllenhaal and Penelope Cruz. The bride in theaters March 6. Rated R. Under 17. Not admitted without parent. This is a paid ad by Better Help. February rolls around with all the hearts, roses and chocolates and suddenly there is this pressure to have everything tied up in a perfect bow. But here's the thing. No matter where you are on this romance journey, dating, taking a break, focusing on yourself, therapy can actually help you sort through it. All. BetterHelp won't fix your love life overnight, but it can help you understand what you actually want from a relationship, what patterns keep showing up, why certain things bother you, and most importantly, it takes some of that crushing pressure off of yourself. BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform and they do the heavy lifting for you. No endless searching for the right therapist. And thanks to their industry leading match fulfillment rate, they usually nail it on the first try. Plus, you can feel good knowing every BetterHelp therapist is fully qualified and works according to a strict code of conduct. Everyone is still finding their way. Find yours and feel lighter. Sign up and get 10% off@betterhelp.com rotten that's betterhelp.com rotten look, we've all been there. You get your phone bill every month and think, well, I guess this is just what wireless costs now. But it does not have to be that way. For years I was one of those people throwing away money on a big name carrier. And then I actually tried Mint Mobile and I felt ridiculous for waiting so long after switching. Basically nothing changed except my change like in my pocket because I was saving money. Mint Mobile runs on the same networks as the expensive carriers. You're getting unlimited talk, text and data without the markup that exists purely because the industry decided that's what people would tolerate. Ready to stop paying more than you have to? New customers can make the switch today and for a limited time get unlimited premium wireless for just $15 per month. Switch now to mintmobile.com rotten that's mintmobile.com rotten upfront payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for a 12 month plan required $15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra initial plan term only over 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. Capable device required availability, speed and coverage varies. Additional terms apply. CMIT mobile.com. Act one is the promise. You get thrown into the world and you don't really know what's going on and the Krug family house sits in the middle of a residential neighborhood where all the neighbors are closely stationed nearby. Their houses are very close in proximity. The streets are smaller, the sidewalks are well maintained. People like to walk their pets outside. It's the neighborhood that a lot of the houses decorate for Christmas and at night you have to close your blinds. Otherwise the red and green not so jolly anymore. They're gonna drive you crazy when you're trying to sleep. But not December of 2023. Something happens in the neighborhood as the Christmas lights are going off, police are stationed behind do not cross yellow tape. It's been like that for a while. Eventually, a neighbor stops the car in front of an officer and asks, are we safe? Neighbors are asking, are we safe? I mean, it's a good question considering. In one of the houses that looks just like the others on the outside, it's like a regular, nice family suburban home. There is one family that is preparing for something. That's what it feels like. They have a whole gun safe filled with weapons, and there's schedules to go learn and how to use these guns. They have family codes. These are not just shared between parents, but with the children. Orange means caution, near normal operations. Red, high alert. Limit visitations.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Like they're talking to each other. Like, today is coal orange. Or right now it's code red.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. Or like certain activities are orange, red, nuclear. And they have, like a whole. They wrote it down.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Okay.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Nuclear means lockdown. Separate locations, active threat. I think it is a pretty good idea to teach kids about active threats and what to do in case of emergencies. But the level at which this particular family is preparing, it seems like there is an imminent threat that they know about, not just like a potential, what if the whole family has to know? And they have all these thorough, well thought out plans on how to keep everyone safe. On a separate piece of paper, it reads, needs gun training. Add walking lights. Add fence lights. Add outdoor cameras. Add front door security protection orders in place. Trim landscaping for visibility. Add extra security system. Replace sliding glass door with regular doors. What are they preparing for? And do the neighbors know? Like, are they all preparing for the same thing? Why are all the neighbors scared, too? December 14th. There is a wellness check being done at the Krug house. The officer goes to the front door to knock, and there's someone there just standing in front of the front door. A woman in a big puffer jacket.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Outside or inside?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Outside. And she looks a little startled. Oh, I was just. I'm their neighbor, and they called me. They're like, can you go see if she'll answer the door? So a neighbor was asked to check up on the residents of this house, too. And she's like, you got it. You got it from here. She walks off. The officer starts knocking on the door. Nobody responds. He peers inside the window. I mean, the rest of the house and the property, it seems completely normal.
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Co-host/Interviewer
There's police cam footage of these?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yes. So there's no coffee table that's overturned inside. There's no broken glass. There's. There's nothing. According to his official report later, he's looking through the front door window. Nothing is amiss. There's no coffee table that's been overturned, no broken glass. There's nothing. According to his official report later, quote, everything looked orderly, quiet. I gave the door a loud knock. He says that he thought whoever he's checking in on probably isn't even home right now. And he's about to drive off in the patrol car when he decides I'm just gonna see if there's a car inside the garage to be extra thorough. The Krug family garage has those windows at the very top of the garage that let sunlight in, but they're so high up that you can't even really tippy toe and see into them. So the officer walks back down to his car and just when it seems like he's about to drive off, he drives his car right up to the garage, climbs on top of his car so that he can get up to a height to peer through the garage windows. And as he's balancing and peering through the window, he's shining a flashlight through. And according to the officer's police report, he says he very quickly sees a woman lying on the garage floor and she is very clearly not moving. He says he quickly gathers the woman is very close to the steps that lead into the house. So she's not close to the garage door that slides up and down. She's close to the door that goes into the house. She has a winter coat on. The hood is pulled over her head, but her face is showing, so she's lying on her back and she's really, really still. He immediately radios in 151, send medical and 110, I need a forced entry. I got a female down in the garage. He runs to the front, kicks open the front door, books it to the garage. He's not even clearing the know if somebody else is in the house. The first words to come out of his mouth when he opens that garage door is holy shit. Shit, holy shit. And it sounds like he's trying to calm himself down from the panic. According to the report, I noted a significant amount of blood which appeared to be fresh, noted by the bright red color. The blood is running down the wall and the woman's head is about 2ft away from the wall. So there seems to be some sort of blood splatter or a traumatic event enough that blood would end up on the wall. There's more blood underne. According to the report, he says he very quickly sees that she's clearly not moving. And he gathers. Okay, so she's close to the steps and there's blood on the wall, there's blood on her. It seems like she probably might not be alive. This is a life threatening fatal amount of blood. He's calling for backup, he's calling for paramedics. He's administering CPR and he's trying to gather as much information as possible. Initially, he realizes that there's trauma near her right temple, but because of all of the victim's hair, he can't make out what is causing the bleeding. He just knows that she's bleeding. It could have been a fall. Her neck is kind of slanted to the left. It could indicate a broken neck. It also could have been from a small caliber weapon, but he can't be sure. So if it was like a. Not a small caliber weapon, it probably would have left a certain type of fragmentation to the head that he would have been able to quickly identify. So he's so unclear about what even caused this. All he knows is he's not picking up a pulse. He opens the big garage door that leads out into the driveway because he just got radioed in that paramedics are about to pull up. So he wants them to have direct access into the because every second is life or death. He opens the big garage doors, and instead of uniformed officers or medics, there's an older woman softly walking towards the opening of the door. And she catches him performing cpr. She catches a glimpse of someone laying on the garage floor covered in blood. And his report reads, it appeared to me the woman was either a neighbor or a relative. She was visibly upset, clearly seeing me perform cpr. I quickly asked the woman to stay away from the garage, Knowing other officers were coming into the area. I requested via radio that they contact this woman and escort her from the garage. It seems like she's freaking out. There's multiple angles of this, of the older woman walking up to the garage, but it seems like she takes a step back and then she wants to go forward. But then probably her logic is like, no, let the police officer do the medical help. You're not going to be helpful. So then she eventually walks down, away from the garage door, down the driveway.
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Co-host/Interviewer
How old is this woman?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
I would say maybe 60s, 70s.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Oh, wow.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
I mean, this is a family member who just walked in at the precise time that her loved one is on the floor, on the garage floor covered in blood, and an officer is performing cpr.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Does she sees exactly who's down there?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
And it's not an accident, and it's not a coincidence. All of this was planned. Even her showing up at that exact moment was planned by somebody else. She's escorted away from the garage, and all the backup officers arrive at the scene. Paramedics rush in, and they realize it's not a head wound that they're working with. I mean, she does have a head wound, but that's not the only thing. Under her thick winter coat, there's one mark. And she has been stabbed near the heart. Who would want someone in the Krug family dead? And does this have anything to do with the break in that happened 82 days ago? Act two of a fictional story usually is the confrontation. It's. It's the structured escalation. It's kind of the why. Why are we even talking about any of this? 35 days before the murder, there is a text message sent to Christeel Krug. Saw you.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Still is.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Christeel is the mother of three and the wife of Daniel Krug. So 82 days before the murder, Daniel Krug calls the police and is like, hey, I just saw some guy break into our house. And I talked to my wife, and we realized the only thing stolen was our spare key. Now, 35 days before the murder. So this is after the break in, Kristeel Krug gets a text message. Saw you at dentist. I like clean teeth for my cock. You got me so sworny and slutty in my car, so I nutted on yours. See you soon. Christeel is like the dentist. How would anybody know that she's at the dentist? Christeel checks her car for a tracker or anything else, and there's nothing. I mean, she hasn't posted on social media, she's barely online these days. She values privacy over everything else. Since the stalking started, she took down all her personal photos, family photos. How would they even know that she's at the dentist? And the dentist. The plaza that the dentist office is in.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Wait, wait, wait. So this is a stalker?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah.
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Co-host/Interviewer
And this is not the first message?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
No, she's been getting messages all month long.
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Co-host/Interviewer
And he said he nutted on hers?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yes, on her car. But she doesn't see any of. This is the first time the stalker is like, I saw you at the dentist at this time. And she knows there's no way. It's not even just a message of like, I. I want you to, like, you know, the stalker was saying all things like, I'm gonna kidnap you. You should leave your husband for me. But now it's very specific. I saw you at the dentist.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Was she?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. And the dentist Plaza has, like, a ton of other businesses in the same plaza. So if someone even just tracked her phone, it would be unclear which business or establishment she's visiting. How would they know specifically she went to the dentist that day? Unless they're tracking her car. Or they're watching her in person. Then another message. He doesn't deserve you. You know it. He doesn't satisfy you. That's why you keep all your fuckboys on the side. You're a dirty slut, and I know how to satisfy you. Admit that no one satisfied you since me. I see you flirting with waiters, almost begging for sex, licking your lips, and you got your boobs out. Don't know how many fuck boys you kept, but I'll save you. I know he's keeping us apart. You don't belong in that big house. You belong with me. I'll get rid of him, and then we can be together. So easy. The stalker sends another message. They have random security that let me park and walk right into his building. Been there for weeks. Give me the signal and he won't come home. Every married bitch I ever banged wanted to get rid of their husbands. I'll do it for us. Help me get rid of him, and then we can be together, just like you want. I'm planning a big birthday party for you. Just you, me, and 20 friends. I know you're a dirty slut, and I'll treat you right. You can be slutty with me, and I'll take you. You don't want the fake married life. You want to be dirty. And I will save you.
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Co-host/Interviewer
So these are all sent, like, separate times?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. Halloween is probably the scariest message to date. It's a picture of Crystal's husband, Daniel while he's leaving work. This your husband drives, like, slow old lady. Can't believe you want to suck his dick but not mine. He needs to drive safe. Don't want to clear rubber hose in his tailpipe, does he?
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Co-host/Interviewer
What exactly is a photo like?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
It's of Daniel getting out of his car going into the work.
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Co-host/Interviewer
How far is it? Very close by.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
It's really close. It's like if someone were to park nose in and then I were to drive right by and take a picture out my window.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Oh, you're driving by their car and snapping a photo, huh?
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
It's not from five parking spaces away. It's like if you're at a Trader Joe's and you're driving by One of the parked cars, and you just stick your hand towards the passenger seat and take a photo.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Okay. What was like the first message though that she received? Are you going to go over that? Yeah.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Okay. Now whoever the stalker is, they're now following the entire family. But how? I mean, it's like they have eyes and ears everywhere. How do you follow an entire five person family? Four days later, a picture of a man's private parts come in with the question, what do you think? Think it's only escalating. And this all started October 2, 2023. So the break in happens earlier than this. But the first message, the very first message comes in October 2, 2023. Christeel gets this. It's hi, Christeel, it's Anthony. Hope it's okay. I looked you up. I go to Boulder, Colorado every few weeks and I thought we could hook up. Christeel doesn't respond, Mainly because it's like a really odd message from an old, old friend of hers. It's her old high school boyfriend. Christeel is now married. She has three kids. One of them, I think is in high school now. Like she. Who's thinking about. Yeah, who's thinking about their high school boyfriend from decades ago. It's not like they have the same circle of friends either. He knows she married a guy named Krug and they have three kids. Why would she even meet up with him? They haven't even spoken in so long. But the next day another message. Are you there? You should say yes when I offer a pity fuck. Whatever. Saw your pictures. You got fat, but your loser husband won't fuck your fat. Just. You should kill yourself
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Co-host/Interviewer
that just second day.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah, but it's not just text messages. Emails are coming in. Your license plate expired. Gotta fix that. She checks, her license plate is expired. You and your husband down to eiffel tower. Then the dentist messages and Christeel starts feeling rightfully paranoid. But there's also nothing that indicates that some. Somebody is following her. I mean, she's been tracking what cars have been on the street outside her house. All normal cars that always pass by. Nothing abnormal. I would imagine that there's more than one exit out of the neighborhood. So if Christeel switches it up each time, then how would he even follow her out? Christeel calls an officer to the house to check out her car. There's nothing. There's no tracker, there's nothing. But they can't even do anything. Even though every day there's a new message. If it's not from the stalker. It's from somebody else. Like a text message from someone else. Seemingly unrelated. Hi. Saw your post on Ioncanto. Are you still looking for some men to join you? So I guess it's like a group sex. Yeah. Can you tell me which ad this was for? About you wanting a train? I believe someone may have taken out an ad with my number. Could you share the link or the title of the ad, please? No response.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Whoa.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
The entire Krug family has this heightened sense of anxiety about all of this. I mean, the pictures, the stalking, the threats, it's just starting to become overwhelming. They try to track down the number sending the messages. It only leads them to other dead ends. And the stalker keeps switching numbers. Sometimes the messages would have thinly laced threats of kidnapping Christeel, killing Daniel. This seemingly very normal suburban family, the Krugs, they start changing their entire lifestyles. They have lockdown protocols in the house. They're installing cameras outside, around the house. Christeel is getting a concealed carry license. She's learning how to shoot guns. Daniel, the husband, he's freaking out. Daniel's kind of a geeky guy. He's the type at work where if he has his work credentials on a tag that he clips onto a backpack, he will do these elaborate swirls in front of the key readers, the key card readers to hit his backpack on it, rather than get a retractable lanyard of some sort. And this is not me trying to give you an analogy of his personality. I literally saw him do this. So it's like that's what he does. That's the type of kind of geeky energy that he has.
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Co-host/Interviewer
What does he do?
- [29:20]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
He works for the Department of Public Health. For accounting.
- [29:23]
Co-host/Interviewer
He's accountant.
- [29:24]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah.
- [29:26]
Co-host/Interviewer
Huh.
- [29:26]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. For the government.
- [29:28]
Co-host/Interviewer
Interesting.
- [29:29]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Now, during an interview with the police, because Christy and Daniel have talked to the police frequently about this stalker.
- [29:33]
Co-host/Interviewer
And what does she do?
- [29:35]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
She is a bioengineer, but I believe that she is a full time mom at this point. But, yeah, she was focused on engineering. Everyone that has spoken about Cristeel says she was just, like, whip smart. So smart. Yeah. And like, even the way that because we foyed requested this case, the way that she was able to log each of the stalker's messages, I mean, she was methodical about it. She did not play games. She would have these ways of calming herself down. Even when she talks to Detective Martinez, which is the guy, the officer that's helping her with catching the stalker, she even tells him, like, she has folders. She's Presenting all the evidence to him. And she's telling him, I know the whole point is to freak me out. So I'm trying to keep that in mind.
- [30:22]
Co-host/Interviewer
So she's like logging all of these. And what is the police saying? There's nothing they could do about this.
- [30:29]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
The police have put out warrants for these cell phone companies to get extra data. But these cell phone companies, they're very sensitive about giving out any sort of information until it's too late.
- [30:41]
Co-host/Interviewer
Is it like a known caller or is it a fake number?
- [30:45]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah, it's like text now, numbers where you can generate like a Google number. And then if you give a warrant to Google, they're gonna stall until maybe somebody's dead. Then you can get an expedited warrant to catch a killer. But at that point, it's kind of too late. So during an interview with the police, you know, Daniel is just saying, like, I was at the grocery store briefly on Tuesday and someone behind me dropped a can and I panicked. You know, like, what am I doing? I'm panicking and I'm doing a job of protecting my wife, so I'm not doing good. It just seems like this whole family is falling apart because of this stalker. Christeel, on the other hand, she's not putting up with this. She's ready to go to war for her safety, as she should. She gets the meeting with Martinez and she's. Martinez even says she came into the interview room and just kind of took over and just told me everything. Like, this is what's happening. She's bringing out papers, files, documents. She got a full blown report from the PI.
- [31:42]
Co-host/Interviewer
So the first message saying, this is from Anthony, right? That's the first person of interest.
- [31:48]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
And yes, and she's tracking. She got a PI to check all of his addresses, all of his associated phone numbers, but they keep moving from different parts of the state. She's handing this all to the police, all of this. And she's like, this is my ex boyfriend from high school. This is his name. I think this is his current address. Officer Martinez opted not to go talk to Anthony because his problem was there's not enough to arrest him. So if they go and talk to him without arresting him, that could set him off.
- [32:21]
Co-host/Interviewer
Okay, so what?
- [32:23]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
So they need to gather more information. They need to wait for these phone companies to come in with the data to have enough evidence to arrest him. So Officer Martinez is like, I mean, I could go talk to him, but if I don't have that evidence, I can't arrest him. So we don't know what he's gonna do after we stop talking to him.
- [32:42]
Co-host/Interviewer
It's because. Because that. They only have a message saying, that's his name, but there's not evidence linking it to his number.
- [32:48]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. So they have a message saying, hi, it's Anthony. And then all these crazy messages, and then a PI who separately finds Anthony's home address. There's no evidence to say that that is Anthony. Anyone could send a message and say, hey, it's Stephanie Hsu. But, like, you have no evidence that it's Stephanie Hsu. Right. So he's like, I could go talk to him. Him. But if it is Anthony, that could set him off. Like, he could go crazy after that. And I don't know if that's a good risk. Now, do I agree with that kind of sentiment? I don't know. But that's how the laws are. So I would say blame the laws more than Officer Martinez. I don't know. Maybe I'm too personally invested. There's a lot of body cam footage, and there's a lot of footage of people, family members, rightfully initially, being upset with Officer Martinez, but later, all of Cristeel's family have come out, and it seems like Officer Martinez took it very hard. So we'll get into it, but because the way the laws are set up, it's not like Martinez doesn't want to go and talk to him. It's not like he's being lazy. It's more so I can't even arrest the guy.
- [33:47]
Co-host/Interviewer
Yeah.
- [33:49]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
And Cristeel just keeps telling Martinez, like, I get it. I keep trying to remind myself this is intending to be terrorizing. This is intending to scare me. Christeel tells her family members it's either going to be me or him that's dead, and I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure it's not me. If this were a fictional story, which it's not. And again, the only reason we're comparing it to one is because there's somebody in this case that thinks that this is going to play out just like the movies is going to be this theatrical, beautiful, cinematic ending. And it's not. But Act 3 is the resolution. It's typically where everything collides together. The clues start clicking into place. The story's central question is answered usually, who did it and why? At the Krug house, backup officers, paramedics have all arrived. But it is too late for Kristeel Krug. She's dead. She's been killed. Someone Stabbed her in the heart in her own garage. One by one, all the family members are arriving to the house. Kristeel's mother was the one that saw when the garage first opened.
- [34:54]
Co-host/Interviewer
That was her own mom outside.
- [34:56]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah, that was Christiel's mother. And she is now being comforted on the street by the neighbor in the puffer coat. Nobody knows if Christeel is dead yet. The officers don't want to tell the family members until everybody's gathered. Christeel's dad, Lars arrives. Christeel's brother Lars Jr. Arrives. Her sister in law, Kate arrives. The last person that they need to wait for is Christeel's husband, Daniel. Thankfully, all the kids are in school. The police don't want to tell anyone until they're all gathered. Daniel's the last to arrive and he parks further away because there's cop cars all surrounding the house. He runs up to the cops, they're telling him, back up, like, under no circumstances are you going into that garage right now. He freaks out. They tell him family's on the side. He books it to the family. Nobody's giving him information. Finally, an officer walks over and lets them know that she's gone. Daniel's on the ground, he's on his knees, he's sobbing. Even Crystal's mom is comforting him because there's just a lot of guilt coming in. Daniel is hyperventilating, saying things like, I didn't protect her. I was supposed to protect her. Christeel's autopsy states that she was attacked from behind with a blunt object, bludgeoned in the head, rolled over before being stabbed in the heart. All everyone knows is unless the police catch this guy, Daniel Krug is probably not. And if this were a fictional story, if this played out like the movies, this is where the resolution would come in. They would all find the guy, Anthony, the guy that's texting and stalking Crystal. They would arrest him and all the questions would get answered. Anthony's a bad guy. He'll get what's coming to him. The story isn't happy at the end because how is it gonna be happy? But you get to see Anthony rot in jail. But this is not like the movies or the books. I mean, this is real life. It never happens that way. Through the body cam footage of the officers at the Krug's house house, there's this one part where all the officers are pulled to the side, away from the family members, away from the neighbors. And one of the officers tells the others, I don't know the Backstory. Husband said there was a dude who's been stalking her, threatened to kidnap her. Martinez was involved. Detective Martinez, I don't know, dude. I don't know the history of that. Martinez does, though, and he's gonna come in. So other than that, we're just kind of securing the scene, waiting for detectives, see what they need. They all point to the blue piece of tape. So over the Google Nest camera on the front door, there's blue piece of tape covering the camera.
- [37:13]
Co-host/Interviewer
It's like a ring camera, right?
- [37:14]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. And they just covered the. Someone came and covered it with blue tape. And the cop is like, did you do that? The guy's like, no. So, like, that's interesting. It's really interesting. The officer that first arrived at the scene, obviously adrenaline was rushing. Once he saw a woman down in the garage. But he said that when he kicked the front door, he didn't. He didn't feel a lot of resistance. He doesn't think that it was dead bolted. Like maybe there was a lock, like the bottom lock, but it wasn't dead bolted. Maybe just the handle was locked. But the most interesting conversation the police have away from the ears of family members and neighbors is that this is still an active investigation. We are going to treat every single person here as a potential suspect. Hair damage is scary, but with the K18 molecular repair mask, there is nothing to fear. K18 hair has been breaking rules and records since day one. And now soft, strong, bouncy hair is possible thanks to patented K18 peptide, the greatest discovery in hair history. It reverses damage from bleach, color, chemical services, and heat in just four minutes. Where it matters most. There was this dead hair test going around for a bit where you take the ends of your hair and you see if they can stand up on their own. My ends were. Were standing up to attention. Just, they were dry, brittle. They felt completely dead. I tried everything. Combing instead of brushing, silk, pillowcases. And then I discovered the K18 leave in molecular repair hair mask. And it wasn't even like I discovered it. My hair stylist used it on my hair and I was like, I need to know what you're doing. And it was that. And I'm telling you, life, shine and softness seem to just like, bloom up after a few uses. For breakthrough results, the K18 mask gets molecular. Want hair like new? Shop at Sephora or get 10% off your first order@kteenhair.com with code Stephanie. That's code Stephanie 18hair.com from radio silence directors Matt Bettinelli Olpin and Tyler Gillette of Scream and Abigail Fame, Ready or Not to Here I Come picks up exactly where the first film left off. Our heroine, Grace Battle, worn and drenched in blood, stumbles out of the carnage, thinking she's finally free. She's not. Surviving has made her the target of a mysterious cabal of eccentric, power hungry, lethal billionaire families. When her estranged sister is pulled into their trap, the two must fight the High Council for the seat that controls the world. Double or nothing Ready or Not to Here I Come is Only in theaters March 20th. Picture this. It is the end of a long week. You're unwinding in the tub, listening to your favorite true crime podcast, and then chronic hives come back again in the middle of the episode. Like what a wet blanket looks like. Another spell of itchy, swollen, red or skin colored hives. If you have chronic spontaneous urticaria or csu, there may be a different treatment option. Worried about your chronic hives interrupting our next episode? Learn more@treatmyhives.com Rot. That night at the police station, Daniel, Cristeel's husband, is about to leave after answering questions along with the rest of Cristeel's family. So they're all coming in for interviews and he turns and before he leaves the police station, he stops in the police lobby and he's talking to one of the officers and he says, he took my children's mother before Christmas. They're never going to get over that. I don't care if you capture him. I don't care if you kill him. Find him. Don't just assume it's me.
- [40:58]
Co-host/Interviewer
Don't just assume it's me.
- [40:59]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah? What do you mean, assume it's me? Daniel is Cristeel's husband. Daniel says so himself. I've seen the movies. It's always the husband, isn't it? But you need to find him inside the Krug house, near one of the action plans in case the stalking escalates. There's a tiny little post it sticking a bookshelf and it reads whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. If you stare long enough into the abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
- [41:32]
Co-host/Interviewer
Nietzsche Handwritten.
- [41:34]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Handwritten. What does any of this mean? Informing the adults of the Krug family of Crystal's murder is one thing. To inform her three kids is a totally different situation. And this happens to be one of the okay, like I could Sometimes words are very bland. I feel like the words heartbreaking, gut wrenching, horrendous heinous. They're all pretty empty at this point, I think. It's just so shitty. I believe it's the eldest daughter. She's in high school, and she already knows that something is wrong before police and family members come to pull her out of school. She's in the guidance counselor's office when the first officer shows up. And she's explaining like she saw a lot happen through her phone because this family has been stalked. They likely all have access to the phone cameras. And she's like, in high school, so definitely she does. And they're probably all alert, watching for any suspicious activity. And she's crying, and she says, my phone notified me of my house cameras going off. There was police at the house and an ambulance, and there was a stretcher. I couldn't bring myself to see who was on the stretcher, so I called mom and dad. My dad picked up and he's crying and he. He, like, wouldn't tell me what's going on. He told me to shut off my phone and my aunt is coming here to pick me up. So the officer is trying to gather intel because the officer knows everything that's happened too, what's been going on at home. So this dude has been threatening my mom, stalking her, taking photos of my dad, saying that he's gonna kill him. Do we know who this person is? One of her exes. I don't know his name. Like an ex boyfriend? Yeah. Okay. And they broke up a while ago. They ended it as friends. So this has all come as, like, a really big shock to my mom. But she mentions to the police officer he's been contacting her from different numbers, sending pictures of my dad, saying that he's got to kill him. He hasn't mentioned anything about me and my siblings yet, which is good. He posted something to a website trying to recruit guys to help him with whatever plan he's going. And he's been contacting my mom through all of this. And so my mom has contacted the police and she has, like, a whole bunch of people on this case. But the thing is, he's making it sound like she's helping him and she's not. So we're really afraid that the police are going to turn on us. So she's been trying to protect herself. So she has a gun and she's in the process of getting her concealed carry license so that she can protect herself and us. And then, yeah, when I saw the camera, I assumed that she would have to use that gun. She tells the officers that my parents don't have the best relationship. It's not violent whatsoever. They just haven't been getting along. They won't get a divorce. They say it's for the children. It's best for us. But at least you know, I know their marriage isn't doing the best. But it's not like it's never bad enough for her to pair up with this guy. So she's explaining the stalker is making it seem like Crystal and the stalker are gonna kill Daniel so that they can run off together. And this little girl, like the daughter is like, that's not like I'm telling you. Like, my mom would never do that.
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Co-host/Interviewer
Please. So does she is kind of thinking that the mom was self defensing her, like.
- [44:25]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah. And maybe killed the stalker.
- [44:28]
Co-host/Interviewer
Whoa.
- [44:29]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
And I know she's not lying and plotting anything because she's terrified. I've never seen her so terrified. And like throughout this, she's breaking down. And because in the foyer request, they. It's all blurred, thankfully. But you actually see the moment when the kids are told. I'm not going to include it. It's. But I think it's important to know it's like a very heavy moment because all of this will. The importance of that comes full circle later. But there's almost this speculation from the daughter at least that the stalker was trying to kill the dad and make it seem like the was part of it. Trying to frame the mom. But how did Chrysteel end up dead then? Whoever's out there stalking Christeel, it is not their first time. It's not their first time creating multiple identities and creating multiple phone numbers and changing their locations just so they could stalk a woman. And there is a lot of potentials to debate here. The messages show that the stalker would have an idea of what their end result was going to be and then completely change their mind and then think about something else. At first they want to kidnap Cristeel and likely hold her captive. There are messages of kidnapping her. And then the stalker believing that Chrystile would finally be happy with him. Or if that's too hard, they could just kill Chrysteel. Maybe that's the better plan. Or how about they kill Daniel Chrystile's husband and frame Chrysteel for it. That way Chrysteal won't have anyone. She'll have to come to him. Her stalker. Right. A nationwide arrest warrant is put out for Anthony, the ex boyfriend, the stalker. And while they're looking for him, a woman named Carrie is brought into the police station. She explains the same exact thing happened to her during her breakup. I mean, this was a long time ago, so this was when she was in college. So like, 15 years ago. And she says, you know, I broke up with him a couple months into my freshman year, and he was pretty emotional. I would say sort of desperation would maybe be the word I would use to describe him after the breakup of just kind of like, please don't do this kind of crying, that sort of thing that I can recall. And then I started to get messages from his roommate. That person's name is Tom. And she starts getting these messages and quote, and I know Tom is real because they're roommates. If I called him, sometimes Tom would pick up the phone, and they had, like, a joint phone and a joint room. She says that Tom would message her, talking about how her ex wasn't doing well because of the breakup and maybe was gonna be injured. But then turns out Tom isn't Tom. I mean, Tom is real. But Carrie says Tom's messages were being sent by her ex boyfriend to try and push her closer to her ex. Again, they're not from the real Tom. They're not from the real roommate. The stalker also created other identities to try and separate her and isolate her from her friends. It kind of ruined her entire college life. Ultimately, all the leads led back to a public library, even though she and one of the officers that she was working with, I mean, they knew who it was. It was the ex boyfriend. They just didn't have enough evidence to get him. But, yeah. And so the police were like, okay, and your ex boyfriend is Daniel Krug.
- [47:38]
Co-host/Interviewer
Damn. So this lady Carrie, right? She showed up by herself, or was she?
- [47:44]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
Police brought her in. There was. In Daniel's sealed records, there was an incident between her and him in college. And the police are like, what are the odds that Christeel was being stalked and Daniel has an ex girlfriend from college that was stalked by Daniel?
- [48:04]
Co-host/Interviewer
Oh, she was stalked. She wasn't just.
- [48:07]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
No. She got these threatening messages, weird messages from all sorts of people that were not the people they claimed to be for.
- [48:16]
Co-host/Interviewer
From decades ago. That's.
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Main Storyteller/Investigator
Yeah.
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- [48:19]
Co-host/Interviewer
Now. Now the police. Did they suspect him from the gecko or was it a while? Like, how did they even go down that path?
- [48:30]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
They suspected him the minute that he came into the police station. Because it's like the movies. He was sitting there, and he's just gonna give information like all the other family members. But I think that is a whole Pandora's box that we're about to open in part two of the audio. So in part two, we're gonna go through all of the ways that the police are looking at Daniel because he's just acting very strange. He keeps bringing up fiction and movies, and the way that he's acting is like a fictional character. None of it feels real. It's very. He's whispering all the time, and he keeps saying things like, I couldn't protect her. And it's just so unsettling. And so the police are trying to figure out they have to find Anthony to rule him out. They also have to find evidence against Daniel, if it is Daniel. And also in part two, we're gonna go through a ton of jailhouse calls because I think this is one of the very few FOIA requests that I got where we were just like inundated with all of these video calls from jail of Daniel.
- [49:38]
Co-host/Interviewer
With whom?
- [49:39]
Main Storyteller/Investigator
With his parents. And he's telling them he is being framed. That will all be in part two of the audio. Stay tuned, stay safe, and I will see you in the next one.
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