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Teacher Made 11-Yr-Old Be A Lookout While SAing His Friend In Class- Husband Defends Her
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There’s been a crime in the workplace. Tim, the man in charge, is tasked with figuring out what exactly happened. He calls in the informants and sits them down at his desk. “What did you hear?” They lean forward - “I heard that they meet after hours in her car and they’re having a very inappropriate relationship. She might even be pregnant.” Tim takes notes. He interviews each of the people that could know exactly what happened… before concluding. These are all just workplace rumors. There is nothing more he should do about it. There’s just no way that Teacher Of The Year - Brittany Zamora is SAing her 13 year old student in a classroom full of kids. There’s no way. What would her poor husband say about this? A lot. He has a lot to say. All words of support for his wife.
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Listener 1
Bada bing.
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Listener 2
Bada boo.
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Narrator
There has been a crime in the workplace, and Tim Dickey, the man in charge, has to figure out what the hell is going on. He's got to investigate. He's sitting down with everybody, anybody that's heard or potentially saw anything. He's sitting across from them because all of these people could be witnesses one day. And they all tell him the same thing. Well, everyone talks about them having an inappropriate relationship. Mm, okay, I see. I mean, have you seen anything with your own eyes, or is it just a rumor that you're hearing from everyone, your peers? Well, I've heard a lot from a lot of others that they're dating. It's pretty clear, though, that she has the power and she favors him. He barely puts in any work and he gets all the rewards. Honestly, it's a pretty gross, massive power imbalance, to say the least. Another person tells Tim Dickey along the lines of, I've heard that they met up after hours, that they have these secret meetings in the night, in the. In her car. It's all very hush hush. But the worst part is I've heard the rumor that she's actually pregnant. Others say that's not even the worst part. It actually does indeed get worse. They say that they've heard rumors that sometimes he would stand behind her desk and she would pretend to go under her desk to look for something. Oops, I dropped my pencil. Crawl down there and. And in front of everybody else in the room, she would, quote, touch his stuff. Not to mention some of the notes found in her desk that he allegedly wrote. One just reads, you're sexy. Another reads, I want you. Let's smash six feet long. Whatever that means. The witness's statements are pretty consistent, but Tim Diggy thinks, well, what if. What if they're too consistent? It's a little too convenient, right? I mean, he thinks all the stories kind of sound similar, like they're all just rumors that people have been circulating from desk to desk. But has anybody actually seen anything? It's time to bring in the suspect. They bring in 27 year old Brittany Zamora. She walks into Tim Dickey's office. She's sitting at the other end of his desk and there's already tears just streaming down her face. In it does not appear that she's having a good time. Listen Tim, please. There are really only two things in this world that I care about and it's my husband and my career. That's it. Tim Digi is smiling because that makes sense. She was like one of the first people he hired since he got the job running this place. And she did win the 2016 County Teacher of the Year award. There's no way she's essaying and raping her 13 year old student in a class full of kids, right?
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Listener 1
What?
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Narrator
There's no way she has an 11 year old boy standing lookout while she essays his best friend in her classroom. Even if Tim Dickey doesn't believe it, the least he can do is alert the 13 year old students parents. Correct? Instead, Tim Dickey sets all the other students down that have reported the inappropriate behavior. He says, thank you all for coming to me with what you've been hearing in the hallways. But do you know how dangerous rumors can be? You can ruin someone's career with these types of rumors. And he scolds all the students for spreading rumors. And it gives Britney enough time to target her next potential victim, an 11 year old. This is the case of Brittany Zamora. And what happens when the victim's parents find out and when Britney's own husband finds out? We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Also known as NecMech. They focus on finding missing children, reducing child sexual exploitation and the prevention of child victimization. This episode, its partnerships have also made it possible to support Rotten Mango's growing team. And we'd also like to thank you guys for your continued support. As always, full show notes are available at rotten. Mangopodcast.com disclaimers today's case has mentions of grooming and CSA. Please watch with caution. The names of the minors have also been of course protected and changed. So with that being said, these are all pseudonyms except for the perpetrators and the adults. Let's get started. Do you know what the Pre divorce stage is, is when you see two people in a relationship, in a marriage, and you know that they're gonna get divorced. They just haven't filed divorce yet. They don't. They might not even know that they're gonna get divorced, but you just feel it in your bones. They are in a stage of pre divorce. My biggest thing is, I mean, I guess it's very difficult to say if you can see when couples are gonna get divorced. Everybody's different. But when they are incredibly mean to each other in front of people, I'm like, I feel like a pre divorce is happening. One netizen says, oh, my pre divorce signal is even stronger. He's older now. He's seen all these couples come and go. And he says, when I see a divorce coming and this is not 100% of the time, obviously there's exceptions. Don't get upset people. But he says, when the couple decide out of nowhere, it's not like a big anniversary, it's not their 50th anniversary, 40th, 20th, 25th. Out of nowhere, the couple decide randomly to have an over the top vow renewal, massive ceremony celebration. It feels like they distract themselves by planning the event and then after the last guest leaves, party is over, they go back to reality. The marriage is shitty. Divorce incoming in like six months.
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Listener 1
What?
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Narrator
Yeah. And he's saying, obviously there's exceptions of people who have anniversaries or have been planning it for a long time or they had a life altering moment where someone was diagnosed with something and then recovered. Those are different.
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Listener 1
Yeah, yeah.
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Narrator
He's saying, like so random.
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Listener 1
Okay.
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Narrator
Another one said, I was at a wedding and I knew this was pre divorce. At the wedding, the groom was making a toast to the bride, you know, the woman that he's marrying. And he talked about how he initially didn't like her because she never shut up, but now she's learning to quote, put a sock in it. And then he jokingly turned and then air backhanded her face. Like not actually hit her on the face, but like in the air, pretended to hit her.
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Listener 1
That is wild.
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Narrator
To the guest credit, nobody laughed. There's just awkward, deafening silence. They got divorced two months after the wedding. One Redditor states that she knew her divorce was coming pretty early on. She says, well, my husband smashed cake into my face at the wedding, even though I begged him for months prior not to. He also introduced me as his friend, first wife at our reception party for our wedding to everybody. He thought it was hilarious. We divorced over the summer And I am so much happier. Another Redditor says, oh yeah. When you can tell your marriage is coming to an end, it's pretty easy. You drive home from work, you come around the corner and if you see your partner's car in the driveway and feel sad or disappointed, that's the sign you need. Another ex wife said, oh, mine was weirder. Right after the wedding, I moved in and you know the thermostat that controls the temperature? He put a password on it and he wouldn't let me have the password.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
For Daniel, the signs were probably a lot more obvious, but he just sped right past them. They went over his head. Daniel, maybe he likes all the signs. I don't know which is more alarming, because the pre divorce, other people saw pre divorce, he didn't see anything. He just gets served divorce papers. Out of nowhere, after everything that they've been through from their proposal, Daniel even wrote this long, sappy message to Britney online about it. He writes, from the moment we first saw each other, we have been falling for one another. So it was only appropriate to ask Britney to marry me while falling. He proposed this whilst on a skydiving trip. And now after four years of marriage, she wants to divorce him. She wants to hit him with divorce papers while she's in jail. Seriously. Britney states to the courts that she would like to separate from her husband because, quote, our marriage is beyond repair. It's broken, and there is no hope of reconciliation. What defines that? A marriage is broken beyond repair with no hope of reconciliation. A few years prior, Britney hands Daniel the phone. This is when they're still married, still living together. Brittany's handing Daniel the phone, and on the other end of this phone is a very, very angry man. He put your husband on the phone. I'm more than happy to talk to that dumb motherfucker too. Daniel grabs the phone. Hey, man. Hey. Don't say, hey, man. And me, you got a fucking monster. If I was you, you stupid motherfucker, I would leave her. So this man on the phone is telling Daniel to leave his wife, Brittany. Daniel's trying to reason with him, man. Listen. No, you listen to me, you stupid motherfucker. I'll cave your stupid fucking head in. You're a stupid, stupid motherfucker, you know that? You dumb motherfucker. Daniel is only briefly quiet before he says, think about it. God, you know God preaches forgiveness, man. Yeah, I'ma preach forgiveness when I put my hands around your throat, you stupid motherfucker. I understand. No, you don't get Shit, you dumb fucking bitch. I would be the same way sir. Like I said, dude, the smartest thing for you to do, do not incriminate yourself. Do me that favor. Leave your wife or else your ass is going down the drain with her. Do me a fav and leave. Your woman is a monster. Do you want me to tell you the whole fucking story? She had another 13 year old in there watching the whole fucking thing. Daniel is on the phone confronted with the fact that his wife Brittany was cheating on him. But he is also confronted with the fact that his wife is cheating on him by raping a 13 year old student of hers. And the man screaming at him on the phone is the victim's father.
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Listener 1
This is how he found out.
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Narrator
He claims he found out right before this phone call. And he was like he said, God preaches forgiveness.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
So you can flag words like baby or, you know, other, maybe drugs. Right. John and his wife, they get Adam, their son, a new phone with this new app installed on their sentry, and they give it to him because, I mean, honestly, they don't feel right about it. They. They were going back and forth, do we install the app? Do we not install the app? We kind of feel bad about it, especially because he's 13. We're trying to give him space to still be a child, but make mistakes and learn and grow and have privacy. But Adam has been acting so weird recently, he doesn't even want to sleep with the door open. They have this whole family rule. Everybody sleeps with their door open. It doesn't have to be wide open. It's just like a crack. You just don't lock your door at night. But he's so upset by this, he's withdrawn during dinner time. He doesn't even want to talk to them. It's so sudden that they're like, something is going on, and if we don't figure out what, we can't help him. The stepmom has the parent version installed on her phone, and she put all the keywords in. And the day after installing the app, she's just getting, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Phone is blowing up. She said. So yesterday I got the alert. I Keep getting alerts back to back to back to back to back. Because the word baby kept getting used, the messages in question read, I guess kind of like any other 13 year old relationship. Flirting, I imagine. I don't particularly recall how I flirted when I was 13, but the messages read, WYD, what you doing on the bus? Texting you. So Adam is texting on the bus texting you. Oh my God, you're so cute, baby. I wish you could have stayed after with me. I know. I wish I could, baby. Heart emoji. Heart emoji. The person responds, I wish I could hang out with you whenever we wanted. Adam responds, same. I think about it so much. I think about it so much too. Aw, baby, I know what you mean. You're all I think about. It's kind of giving like two 13 year olds flirting. Another thread of messages read from Adam, you're mine. Yes, baby. Which again, I don't necessarily recall how I was flirting as a 13 year old. And I'm sure per parent it's different how one feels about their kids sending these types of messages. I don't know, perhaps a child psychologist would know better if this is normal development to talk like this or not. But so far it's not the most alarming thing in the world. But there's more messages that start to escalate and get increasingly stranger. A message from Adam reads, I need more redacted from you heart. Now these are obviously not redacted to Adam's parents, but it's redacted in the police records. But the parents have seen it. You can kind of fill in the blanks on what it says. The person receiving the message goes question mark. You okay? Sorry baby, my parents called me. Ugh, I thought you got in trouble. I gtg do chores. I love you. I'll see you tomorrow. The person responds, ily heart. Okay, they're saying I love you. It seems like it's more serious 13 year old relationship. It's getting, it's getting a little more alarming than Adam receives a message, I want you too, baby, so bad whenever we can. You know I'm down heart like you for real get sexier to me every day. Lol.
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Listener 1
Wait, which one? Who said this?
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Narrator
Whoever is sending this to Adam. Adam's stepmom says so I'm reading through the conversations and I've done this before with other conversations of his as well, but this time at the bottom she sees something at the bot of the messages and she's, she's looking at it twice. Three times. 479 times. Because there is no way. I mean, there's just no way. The app Sentry will tell you what platform the messages are being sent from and what the account name is. So it just gives you your handle. So if it's on Facebook, it gives the handle, or on Instagram, it gives the handle at blah, blah, blah. And it's Mrs. Zamora, Adam's sixth grade teacher, through Instagram. So she's like, no, no, no. I mean, maybe. Maybe it's just someone with the same name. Or like, you know how kids are. Maybe they'll make an account for their teacher and just mess around.
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Listener 1
So she first only saw that he's flirting with someone.
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Narrator
Yes.
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Listener 1
And she thought maybe this just like. Like a girlfriend.
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Narrator
Yes.
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Listener 1
And when she saw that handle, that's when she realized, oh, my gosh.
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Narrator
She's like, what the hell is going on?
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Listener 1
Okay.
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Narrator
Then she goes on Instagram and she checks that handle because she's like, again, it could just be an account. You can technically name your handle anything on Instagram. There's no law. She goes, and it's the same spelling, same everything, with the real account of Mrs. Zamora. And she knows this because she's messaged Mrs. Zamora, too, about homework before on Instagram. And the stepmom says, but what? Even more confirmed, it was her first name was used in the conversation. So either she wrote it or he wrote it. And they put. So the two were flirting and they wrote, britney. Insert Adam's last name. Other messages read, what are you doing? Thinking about your sexy self? Heart emoji. Heart emoji. And then Mrs. Zamora responds, Aw, baby, I wish you were here with me. And she proceeds to send a video. And I don't know why Diddy is everywhere, but he's here, too. She is pointing at her car stereo with the caption, when the radio plays that good shit. And it's Diddy's song, I Need a Girl. And the lyrics are, I've had a lot of women in my lifetime, but see, it's not a lot of women that got the right mind. I've done a lot of pretty chicks with all the right features, cell phones and beepers. You know how to treat you. You break her heart, she'll walk out and leave you. Yeah.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
So immediately, Adam's stepmom is calling Adam's dad, husband. You gotta do something. You gotta come home. This is serious. He gets home, they confront Adam, and they even see that Mrs. Zamora had sent pictures of her Private parts with her chest fully exposed as well as below. Private parts fully exposed, wearing black lingerie that is crotchless.
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Listener 1
So the app also shows photos.
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Narrator
They confronted him, and they saw those photos. They tell Adam, we need you to be completely honest right now. We already know the answers to everything we're gonna ask, so we just need you to tell us the truth. Who is this you're talking to? Who are you talking to? And have you done anything with your teacher? Adam quietly responds, yeah. He tells them that. Remember that one time he brought home that permission slip to stay longer after school to set up posters for the talent show? That's when it happened. That's when his teacher essayed him. But it would happen several more times. So now Adam is texting Brittany, I want to F. Okay, it's redacted, but presumably, I want to F so bad, baby. Those times weren't enough for me. Adam sends the message, and his dad is standing over his shoulder. The way that Adam's dad describes it, he says, sorry to use this language. He says that, but you're gonna text this bitch, and you're gonna trap her. You are gonna make her tell me everything through these messages. Adam texts her that. And she responds, I want you, baby. I want you every day with no time limit. If I could quit my job and fuck you all day, I would. Adam's dad probably takes over the phone at this point, I presume. And he sends another message, I need more redacted from you. I'll give you whatever you want, baby. And with that, they're immediately calling the police. And they start getting these weird restricted calls. Soon after, like, a few hours later, they keep getting restricted call block, number, unknown number, unknown number. And they're just sending them to voicemail because why are they getting these restricted calls out of nowhere?
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Listener 1
What does that mean, restricted calls?
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Narrator
Like, unknown number, unknown number, unknown number. Because, you know when you get scam calls, they don't want it to say unknown number. They try to make it look like real numbers, but they keep getting literally, unknown caller, unknown caller. They're like, this is so random.
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Listener 1
But they're not answering.
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Narrator
They're not answering for the first few times. Finally, they pick up the fourth one, and it's Britney Zamora. It appears maybe Adam had let her know that they had alerted the police or something. But she calls them, and Adam's dad is not messing around. He starts a conversation. What type of perverted person are you? I want to know right now. You are a fucking monster. You're a pedophile. You're a child molester. Do you understand me? Britney on the other end has the audacity to say, why do you say that? Oh, bitch. See, I'm a lot smarter than you. I am so much smarter than you. You do not understand how much smarter than you I am. I got you. I want you to know that. I got you. Do me a favor, do not call this number back again. Next time you hear from me, it will be in court. And make sure you let your husband know that you fuck 13 year old boys. I want you to do me a favor, okay? Do that for me and I am coming for you. Which, by the way, Adam's parents did, like everything right in this. They did not say, oh, it's a boy's dream. They didn't do any of that. They didn't victim blame, they didn't victim shame. They didn't get upset with Adam. They took all the right steps. I think even in this phone call, he is so clearly he has a lot of emotions coming out, which is rightfully understandable, but he's pretty poised. Nothing he's saying is uncalled for or not true. To which she responds, okay, yeah, you have a wonderful evening. Okay? You stupid cunt. Can you like, explain to me, can we meet to talk about this? And she tries to like have this soft voice. There's something like, we can settle outside. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, that's what we can do. So I can give you a chance to do it to some other kid. Yeah, that's exactly what we're gonna do. No, Ms. Zamora, do me a favor, do not call me back again. Do you understand me? And make sure to tell your husband what's going on. He's right here. He's right here. Can he talk? Can we meet to, you know, talk about this? We can settle outside. Side note, in a later report, it says that Britney reassures Adam's parents that she's not pregnant and that she's very clean from STDs, which, like, what kind of reassurance is that lady? I believe she even tries denying a picture that she sent a nude photo because it doesn't have her face in it. But the dad tells her pretty bluntly, I know where your birthmark is. Okay? I know where your birthmark is. So Adam's dad goes on to say, make sure to tell your husband exactly what's going on. By this point, the parents know that he's been essayed, their son has been essayed by their teacher. They know that these messages have been taking place. Inappropriate pictures have been sent. They're about to file a police report, but they're on the phone with Britney and her husband. They don't know the exact details of when these incidents happened. They're gonna find out soon, but they know everything that's happened, the crimes that have taken place. And now Daniel, the husband, is getting on the phone. Britney's husband is on the phone. There's almost this level of frustration that you can feel Adam's dad having because it's like, how are you not getting this? His fist is clenched. His wife is recording this. We have this whole phone call. We foa the phone call. And he's just saying, she's a monster. Like, do you. Do you understand that? Do you understand that? Dude, be smart, you stupid ass. Leave. Kick that bitch out of your house. And Daniel's like, listen, man. No, you listen. You're lucky that my wife is standing right here, you stupid motherfucker. Talk. You got 30 seconds. Which side note? Adam's stepmom whispers at one point, he might be a pervert too, talking about Daniel. And he continues talk. You got 30 seconds. Don't waste my time. You had the nuts to call me and now you don't want to talk? Look, man, this whole situation is crazy, and I've never heard of anything like this in my entire life. And I'm sure as a parent, you've got to be livid, pissed, downright hurt. You trust the system. And honestly, this sucks. As a husband. As a husband, I am distraught, let down. I mean, I understand. And I'm sure as a husband, you know, you know what this would do to you. Well, dude, the thing is, I don't get with a fucking monster. I know, I know. God is the worst for me. I'm pretty much throwing up. She confided in me just now and told me the truth, and, man, I am shaking. Well, explain to me what she told you. Which side note, when he says I am shaking, I don't feel like he's shaking. I understand that everybody processes shock differently, but I feel like this is my reaction to an Uber order getting canceled. It doesn't sound shaken. And the dad continues. I want to know. You said that she confided in you. Let me know what she told you so I can see if she told you everything. Grab some nuts and talk to me like a man. What the fuck did she tell you she did to a 13 year old boy? Listen, to be honest, it's just more of the messaging. Oh, so she didn't tell you everything then, man. I mean, I'm hearing it from you, sir. I'm hearing it from you. We are not gonna hear another fucking thing from me. So what I'm asking you is if you could possibly just. Brittany has been a great teacher for a long time. Five years. She's done so much for so many students and raised so many people's lives from the ghetto. That's literally what he says. Like, don't even get me started on that.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
She's been to, you know, homes to talk to students again, not the one you think it is. Done a tutoring program. She's done so, so much. And she's made a huge mistake. The biggest mistake anybody could ever make in this whole entire world. She got invested in a very, very bright, smart and great student. He's trying to spin this like, Britney got invested in your child because he's so great, which I'm sure he is, but what? Yeah, what kind of advertising manipulation, scheming, honestly, and a great person, which probably comes from y'all. And I get you, I get it, man. He's like marketing her crimes what's happening right now. And you probably don't want to hear my voice. And I wouldn't want to hear my voice either. Oh, I'd like to hear your voice when I get my hands around your throat. Your wife decided to be a monster and prey on a. She scarred my son mentally. Do you understand what a 13 year old boy did? Do you get all of that? Listen to me. I am not going to settle outside of court. There's not enough fucking money you could possibly ever ask and offer me to settle this. I get it, man. Get that through your head. And with that, he hangs up the phone. He calls the police, Adam's parents do, and a whole investigation begins. And it just gets messier. There are two main interviews that are done. One with the victim, Adam, and then another hour long interview with the victim, victim's best friend. Now the interview with Adam, you don't see him because obviously his identity is protected, but he just sounds so young. There is like a certain cadence that children have. Obviously some people don't shed it for a while. There's nothing wrong with it, but the way he answers questions is incredibly childlike. His voice, his way of responding. So for example, the interviewer will ask him, tell me about a few things you like to do. He responds, I like to play football, write and draw. The authorities are just trying to understand, okay, how does something like this even happen? Like she's had to have a certain level of grooming already established in order to send these types of messages to the victim. And they're wondering, how did you guys even start messaging? There's this app called classcraft. Classcraft is supposed to foster a positive school climate and educational outcomes. It's a message board. You can message your teachers and ask them one on one about questions of homework under the presumption that this is a well monitored communication forum. And likely nobody uses the chat function to do anything but ask questions about school or class times. Because let's be so real. What teacher wants to talk to their kids outside of school hours? And what student wants to talk to their teacher outside of school hours? Unless there's a problem with schoolwork. But Britney tells her class, one day, I'm going to be out of school tomorrow. You guys are going to have a substitute teacher, and I'm just going to be really bored. So if anybody else is bored, you guys should message me on class craft. It's not about an assignment. It's not about their project. It's just, I'm bored. Adam messages his teacher that day, hi, Mrs. Zamora. And she texts back, hi. She starts asking him these weird questions. Would it be weird if I sent you a winky face? Adam said that he was confused and he just responded, no, it's just a winky face. Lol. And Britney responds, I'm bored. Lol. I am too. Come over. And he says, on my way. Car emoji. But obviously JK, because he's 13 and that's crazy.
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Listener 1
That's how it started.
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Narrator
Yes.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
Eventually, they start talking about the school dance, and Brittany is asking Adam if he's going to the school dance, which he just casually responds, I don't think I'm gonna. I might, though. And she responds, oh, Salty bae. Calling herself Salty bae. From there, Brittany guides the conversation and she moves everything onto Instagram. Adam says, I don't remember how it got really intense, but we would flirt and she would say things like, oh, my God, I love you. And I would say, I love her too. And then she would talk about how she wanted to do stuff with me, and I would tell her that I wanted to do that too. He says, yeah, we would flirt a lot. Like, we would be at recess and I would talk to her. We would flirt at recess. But then the principal kept getting all these reports of an inappropriate relationship going on, and he said they were all just rumors and that he told them that they can't flirt or, well, I guess he didn't say flirt. They can't talk during recess because it feels like Britney Zamora is picking a favorite.
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Listener 1
So they were doing do this in front of everyone.
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Narrator
Yeah.
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Listener 1
And people are reporting because this is that bad.
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Narrator
Not only are people reporting, so the students are. Some of them are reporting it to principal Tim Dickey, but some of them are even messaging Brittany Zamora on Classcraft. There were like three girls, students, 13 year olds that were messaging her saying, if these rumors are true, like, this is a gross use of power and you should really be ashamed of yourself, blah, blah, blah, like telling her and.
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Listener 1
The principal, Tim Dickey was, you know, like he was trying to protect what Zamora or the reputation or the school image, whatever it is. Right.
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Narrator
There are a few netizen theories and maybe it's a compilation of all of them. Some people think that Tim Dicke finds Brittany Zamora conventionally attractive, and maybe he was blinded by that. Other reports say that Tim Dickey's reputation could have been on the line because he was an assistant principal at a different school, got promoted to principal at this school, this final school where it happened. And the first person that he hired from that other school that he used to work at was Brittany Zamora. But that could also be. I don't know if that's because she's a great teacher or if perhaps her conventional attractiveness was. You don't know. Right.
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Listener 1
Yeah. Wow. But either way, he brushed it off.
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Yes.
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Listener 1
That's crazy.
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Narrator
He just thought, you know, naturally some teachers will inevitably have favorites. And she is being unprofessional by showing that to the other kids. As for the physical assaults, Adam says it started with her kissing him after school one day. He says, the first time we kissed, I was saying bye to her. I gave her a hug and she started kissing me, so I kissed her back. He says, we were doing a talent show thing and yeah, it was like when I was saying bye and he says, quote, she's like, you want to go in? I was like, sure. I didn't take off my pants or anything, but she was wearing a dress, so she just pulled her underwear to the side. And then I was in there for like a minute and then I was like, okay, I gotta go. It appears that he is trying to explain that she forced him to digitally stimulate her. It appears, he continues, she said she wanted to give me a blowjob and my stuff was really big and stuff like that. He's telling the police interviewer all of this and the interviewer has to keep asking him like, what stuff do you mean? And every time he says it, he just hesitates and he whispers really shyly because he's 13, penis. Like, he doesn't even like saying that word. In the interview, they go over all the other instances that she wanted him to meet up with her. He says, I told her that I was at my grandparents house and she said, let me come over. And I said, lol. And then I put these heart emojis. And she was like, no, I'm serious, like, okay. And she came over. I went to her car, she was parked on the end of the street. She texted, okay, I'm here, I'm outside. And I walk to her car. And that is where she essays him for the first time. I think at this point people were expecting that because we already knew that she had essayed him. So they're just trying to get the details of when and how it happened. I'm not saying it's not unsurprising or it's expected, but it's like when you already know the balloon popped. Now you're just trying to figure out how the balloon popped. Right? I don't know if the balloon is a great analogy or like the cake dropped or something. You get it. You already know this event took place. Now you're just trying to figure out how it took place. But the interviewer, I don't think that she knew that this part happened because Adam starts describing. They have this thing in class called CNN 10. And Brittany would say, it's time for CNN 10 where they watch CNN's 10 minute recap of the news day. And this is around 2:40pm right before school ends. She would say, get your snacks out, go find a place to sit down. Brittany would walk over and turn on CNN 10. Walk to the back end of the class so everybody's facing forward. She would be standing behind Adam and putting two and two together from the redacted reports. She would force Adam to digitally stimulate her in the back of the class while everybody else was watching the news. They're in the classroom.
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Listener 1
That's freaking insane.
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Narrator
And then according to Adam and another witness, she would have Adam stand behind her desk. And because he's 13, he's, you know, not that tall. I guess his, his private part would be below the level of the desk. And she would pretend to drop something or pretend to look for something under the des. And she would quote, touch his stuff. There's a whole classroom full of kids.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
I mean, how can they be so bold? Because they have a lookout A boy, Adam's best friend, let's call him Brady. He's also interviewed, and he said this happened every day. CNN10 they did it every day at 2:40. I was one of the witnesses, one of the people that saw Mrs. Zamora and my friend touch each other. And they would ask him, was Mrs. Zamora saying anything? They were just doing it. It was very uncomfortable. So that's why, like, the second day they were doing stuff, I just left the room. He says, yeah, we tried to tell Mr. Dicke. Mr. Dickey came and he talked to us saying, well, you guys as students should stop saying these rumors and talking about, like, how can we solve this situation by next time we hear rumors like this, tell the principal or solve it by telling the teachers. We wrote on a piece of paper how to solve the situation of rumors.
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Listener 1
What does that mean? We wrote on paper?
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Like, next time I hear rumors, I will do this.
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Listener 1
That's so sketchy. I feel like this principal is way, like, you know.
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Narrator
Yeah.
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Listener 1
I feel like he needs to be investigated or something. How this is. Yeah, yeah.
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Narrator
I mean, I think it's very sus that he doesn't even alert Adam's parents. It's one thing to think that it's a rumor. Fine. Right. I think it's your weird opinion. I don't agree with it, but you should still at least alert the victim's parents. Yeah, like, hey, this is what's been going on at school. These are the rumors that have taken place. I just want to give you guys, like, a heads up in case you've seen anything or alert authorities to investigate because, like, you're not an investigator. It's just so weird. He also doesn't even put Britney on leave so that they can investigate further. He doesn't do anything. He just takes notes on his investigation, which at this point are as useful as, like, keeping a diary. He also just tells Brittany to stop spending so much time with Adam, and that's about it. But the best friend, Brady, he continues in the interview with the police that Mrs. Zamora started asking him weird stuff too. He says, Mrs. Zamora asked me if my thing was like, uncircumcised or circumcised. And I didn't know what that means. So in the middle of class where there are students everywhere, Mrs. Zamora went on her phone and looked it up and then showed me. She also asked if he wanted to see nude photos of her as well. And he says, she didn't touch me or anything. But by all accounts, it seems like she's prepping him to be her next victim. And he is 11 years old.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
He can't even properly explain the things he's witnessing because he's that young. He kept stating that Britney and Adam had sex. Now the officer has to ask him what that means to him, to which he says, it's like they kissed. He also confuses the word virgin and Virginia. And this is like Britney's next alleged target. Potential target 11.
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Listener 1
What grade is that?
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Narrator
This is. So they're in sixth grade. Adam is 13, so he might have been held back for a year or two, but wow. I mean, that's crazy. As for why, I mean, Adam's parents want to know, why did you freaking do this? Why risk your whole career and your marriage for what? And she just responds, I asked myself the same question. I just got really close after everything went down. And we're like, how could that happen? We just got so close. I don't know. They arrest Brittany Zamora. There's body cam footage of this. And when they're taking her in for arrest, they're taking off all of her jewelry. And she asks the police, do I have to take off my wedding ring? As if she's in so in love with her husband. It's so weird. Then, right to when she's being taken in to be questioned, she asks if there's any way she can talk to her husband. They say no. They take her into their interrogation room and they ask her all the pertinent questions. You know, did they tell you why you're here? Did they tell you why you've been arrested? It's involving a relationship with Adam. I mean, I guess I just want to give you an opportunity because there is really little doubt on what happened. And she says, can I have an attorney? You can. Is that what you want? Yeah. Will I be going home today? No. They tell her she's going to jail. To which she says, I'm little. They're gonna tear me apart. You know who else's little? 13 year olds, 11 year olds. To which the officer just straight up tells her, yeah, I mean, if you have problems with somebody, you can voice that to somebody. And if you have problems, they can isolate you. And she starts sobbing. I just have the best husband in the world. And I'm so ashamed. I mean, I do believe calling her a pick me is the nicest description I can use considering her crimes. But she has this moment where she's arrested, she's handcuffed behind her back, and she has to get into the back of the cop car. The cop is like, here, like, let me help you. I know it's a big step. I'm gonna help you. And she saw. I'm only five foot. Okay.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
Yeah, fascinating. I don't even understand. Even when they said bail, they ask her, is there anything you'd like to say? And she goes, I guess I would just really like to go home and be with my husband.
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Listener 2
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Narrator
And so for a moment, because of how much Britney harps on how much she loves her husband whilst r wording a 13 year old, I thought maybe, maybe there's a chance that Daniel did an Olympic level of mental gymnastics to somehow believe that she did not do this. I don't know. No. But authorities found text messages between Daniel and Britney while Britney is on the phone with Adam's parents and he's texting her. Cry, seem helpless, be apologetic a ton. Don't say anything incriminating no matter what.
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Listener 1
The phone call you just described the whole time Daniel was like, man, you gotta understand.
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Narrator
And then there's more. Britney responds he wants info. He's still asking. He keeps saying to tell him that he already knows. So it appears like maybe he had come home, you know. And he says he's not recording. He's still asking me what happened. He says don't even hint around anything or agree, of course he's recording. Say we have to meet because you want to tell him face to face. That's the right thing to do. Tell him you do not feel comfortable over the phone. I know he's not going to like that, but be firm. Do not be gullible and tell him anything. Don't admit to any relationship because we both know there isn't one and nothing happened. Just stupid fantasy texting that went too far. Call me after even if he gives you an ultimatum. Don't say anything, Britney. Insist on meeting. He hates you and wants nothing but to burn you to the ground. Rem, I'm getting worried. What's going on? Please don't be stupid and admit he won't meet you. He's recording. No way. Don't believe it. Why can't he meet then? Please, please, Brittany, don't say anything. What's going on? Tell him that you're going to the school right now and that you have to hang up. Hang up now. Don't say another word. He's going to fucking kill us if you say anything, Britney. Also, who says he doesn't change his mind? He will say one thing now and fuck you over later. God knows if anything or admit fault. He's got us and you're going to be done. I think the usage of us is interesting.
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Listener 1
You know, Britney sounds just extremely, extremely.
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Narrator
Dumb and obviously evil. Yeah.
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Listener 1
Evil. But he's like, that's. I don't even know what, what's going on here.
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Narrator
Yeah, like he doesn't sound okay. So a lot of people thought that he's the biggest simp husband in the world, but this doesn't sound like a simp husband.
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Listener 1
Yeah, and also if you're a simp husband, when you find out about this news, wouldn't you be be devastated then?
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Narrator
I guess they're trying. Like some netizens feel like this is him trying to protect her at all costs because he's a simp. But I think the usage of us is weird.
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Listener 1
What's the context again?
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Narrator
He says he's gonna fucking kill us if you say anything, Britney. He also says don't mit to any relationship because we both know there isn't one and nothing happened. Just stupid fantasy stuff. That also feels like, like it's weird. Yeah, like you never really say, like we both know. If you really both know, you're saying.
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Listener 1
That he supposedly he found out about everything just now.
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Like that day?
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Listener 1
Yeah, that day. And this is his reaction. I don't know. This is.
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Narrator
Yeah, it's very weird. Everybody in this is weird.
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Listener 1
It's very weird. It's not normal. This is not a normal relationship.
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Narrator
And that's not to say that Britney's not at fault. You know, I do see some netizens conspiring that maybe he was pushing her to do these things. I don't really care if he did or not. I think she, she's the one that did them. Like if my husband was trying to convince me to do anything like that, I'd be like, okay, so I'm gonna go to the police station and then I'm gonna go find a divorce attorney. That'll be my two immediate steps. So I mean, I don't care. This is not to diminish her responsibility. I'm just saying those are some netizen theories out there. While all this is happening, the authorities come to do a search warrant on Britney's house and Daniel is outside. The officer just asks, probably for protocol. You guys have no kids, right? No, sir, I wish. Now this is in the middle of Brittany, your wife being investigated for r wording her stumen. What do you mean you wish you had kids? I mean you want to have children around your predator wife. Even the cops are doing a double take. What do you wish you had kids now? Oh, so I can have like, you know, I don't know all of what's going on and what's. I don't know what's gonna happen right here, you know, so I can have a little more like pieces of her. Basically saying if she goes to prison, he can have a piece of her.
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Listener 1
What?
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Narrator
Daniel keeps going. Brittany has been an awesome teacher for a long time. She won teacher of the year, really straight A student all through high school, college, bachelor's degree and her master's. Ah, that's awesome. She's impressive. She's done so many good things for so long for the students, for the school, like really, really invested. She's really invested in her career. It's so weird. Some netizens are confused. Some think Daniel is as dense as a forest. Or some think that he's somehow involved or knew or got off on what Britney was doing. Some people point out she would sneak out in her car in the middle of the night to go meet up with the 13 year old. She's married, she's a teacher. What excuse would she have to go in the middle of the night?
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Listener 1
Let's say he just simply loves her. Right? But then you found out the love of your life is a monster doing these type of crimes. The fact that you still love her, like into this level, like, oh my gosh, she's the best. She's the best. She's the best. That then you have like, what does that mean about you? That. Yeah, exactly, right? How, how can you still think she's this perfect wife or whatever that, you know, so crazy. So that says a lot about him too.
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Narrator
Yeah. Yeah. And he probably should also not be around children then because like, you think your love of your life is fine after what she did to a child. Yeah, you should not be around children. But very quickly, Britney divorces him in prison. Some sources state that it's because she was trying to protect their assets. Because right after all of this, Adam's parents file a lawsuit against the school board, Tim Dickey, as well as Britney's husband. And he's listed on the lawsuit. I think it was like a $2.5 million lawsuit. They did settle privately, but maybe it's to protect him from, I guess, division of assets because they're no longer together. Some people say no, it's just Britney moving on. He stood by her during the entire trial. Other sources state that she was actually very upset with him and felt like all of this was his fault because he kept telling her to tell Adam's parents to meet up. And some sources say that she believed that got her more years in prison versus just like talking to them. Frank admitting, confessing and being remorseful. Really interesting crossover. But the judge that presided over this is the the judge that presided over Jodi Arias trial, also assigned to Brittany's case. But nevertheless, in a statement to the court, she starts. Good morning, your honor. I'm going to start off by apologizing to the victim and his family. I'm sorry for the undue stress or pain that I may have caused. I'm ashamed of my actions and I'm completely remorseful and truly regret what took place. I'm known to be a caring, responsible, happy and thoughtful person, which, like, sometimes the truth slips out in really almost unnoticeable ways. She says I'm known to be not I am. Which I thought was interesting. The rest of the statement is more of her talking about how great of a person she is in a condensed manner she's going through. Prior to all of this, I've been nothing but an amazing teacher and citizen. I started programs while teaching to help stop bullying. I taught girls about nutrition and fitness. I created fundraisers to help with autism, which, like, I don't even know what that means. That sentence is bizarre. What do you mean, help with autism? Are you helping students with autism that are struggling to adjust to certain aspects of school life? Like help with autism? Like, what does that even mean? It's very bizarre. I filled out 25 plus desks with school supplies each year and even won teacher of the year award in 2016. She asks for leniency in her sentencing. If that isn't already bad enough, her attorney just like hook, line and sinker, let's go down together. Her attorney states that because Britney's father abandoned her when she was 13. She was struggling with anxiety, depression and OCD. Her attorney states she's a great candidate for rehabilitation. She wants to change her life and she's already started that. I have represented Britney Zamora for almost 16 months, and I can tell you that she is not a monster. Britney is not a predator. And this was not between a young child and Britney. This was a teenager.
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Listener 1
Wow.
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Narrator
There were issues with this case. For example, Principal Dickey refused Britney's request to move the teenager out of the classroom. Brittany Zamora implored Principal Dickey to move him because the teenager had boundary issues and was obsessed with Britney.
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Listener 1
Whoa.
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Narrator
I am not making that up. I learned that from Principal Dickie. Odd things that were outside of the evidence that you probably all received. She goes on to just victim blame in a bullet point list. Adam's family filed a civil lawsuit within hours of finding out what happened. So. So what? Adam had two cell phones trying to imply that he's not the nice little kid that you think he is. Okay, he's still a kid. And so what? He had multiple social media accounts. Okay, so do I. And he had behavioral issues. She's just talking, opening her mouth and letting all sorts of thoughts spill out that she should have just kept in her drafts, in her notes app because of how ridiculous she is. Everyone in the room is staring at her like, this woman cannot be serious right now. Yeah, defend your client, do your job. But what? She confronts everyone. I see some of your faces frowning. The teenage boy was very aggressive. He was even very persistent in asking Britney about her birthmarks, molars, or anything else that could be an identifiable piece of information. This was before the authorities were contacted. Trying to imply that the kid is like, forensically trying to get knowledge on Britney to pin her to the crime that she clearly, so clearly committed. She also proceeds to read a statement from Brittany where she says, where Brittney, the child molester, says, good afternoon, my name is Brittany Zamora. After going through the court process for the last 16 months, I can truly say that I have been unfairly treated by the state of Arizona. It's shocking to me how others are so quick to judge based off hearing accusations from only one side of the story. It was made clear to me that the state had already made their decision well before I was given a chance to prove my innocence in any way, shape or form. She goes, girl, are you not tired? She goes on to talk about how she did these risk assessments, psychological tests, evaluations and polygraph tests that all showed her to be the highest degree of character. I don't ever think that I have seen a polygraph test where the results just come back highest degree of character. Like that isn't even, that's not even an option. Moreover, I feel like a risk assessment test in terms of evidential value, very low compared to explicit photos she sent him and testimony from the victim. They also try to argue that her polygraph shows that she does not have an interest in children. Again, I don't know what we're trying to get here. The argument just diminishes the validity of the polygraphs. And if that's not the case, it just makes her look more sinister because she's able to pass a polygraph when there is photographic evidence. And with that she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. The school board and Tim Dickey settle outside of court with the civil lawsuit. But I guess they, they stand by their decision. Tim says he didn't want to blow it out of proportion what he thought were just rumors. By alerting Adam's parents, they said that they conducted a two day investigation and deemed nothing inappropriate was happening. They have less sense than children. The 11 year old Brady, he says it's just weird how a 27 year old can like love a 13 year old and stuff. Stuff. It's just crazy. She's not a good person. Adam's dad says if we didn't have the app and we didn't take all the necessary steps, we would have never known that this happened to our son. And how much longer could it have gone and how many other boys would she have done this to? They say it's affected Adam individually, it's affected our family dynamic. It's affected his behavior and his schooling. It's disrupted his schooling, it's disrupted his living situation. We had to uproot our entire family and move. His childhood is already gone. He's 13. He's going to miss out on so many important emotions and feelings when it comes to relationships with women for the rest of his life. All because his trust was betrayed by a sixth grade school teacher. I'm also angry at those who say they think this abuse like this of a woman on a young man is somehow less serious than if it happened to a girl instead of a boy. Every child, no matter their gender, deserves to have their period of childhood free of monsters. And there truly are monsters in the world. As parents, you teach your kids that there's no such thing as monsters at all. There's none. But in the real world, there are monsters and Britney Zamora is a monster. What's crazy is there are so many netizens defending Britney Zamora. They say When I was 13 we were smoking cigarettes, drinking and making other people pregnant. Some of us even carried around knives and messed around with other people. Yeah, 13 years old is young and is wrong, but stop making the 13 year old look like an 8 year old. I think for her to get 20 years is insane. If that's the case, you need to increase prison time for other crimes as well that are even worse others. Just write every male middle schooler's dream. Another reads, damn, I wish she was my teacher. I would have said nothing or that's the funnest extra credit assignment I've ever heard of. I will say most netizens are not on Britney's side. I don't know how true this is. This is just an Internet comment. What someone writes she was a TA for my English teacher in 5th grade. I vividly remember a male classmate blatantly hitting on her like the TA Britney Zamora multiple times and she would just say things like aw, thank you, you're so sweet instead of telling him to stop and how it's inappropriate signs were there. She was a creep. What are your thoughts on this case? Let me know in the comments and stay safe. I will see you guys in the next one. Bye.
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