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In episode #14 of season 6, Anna Nadeina talks with Pieter Boon, co-founder of ImpactPilot, a Customer Success (CS) platform designed specifically as an add-on for HubSpot.

Pieter spent his career in post-sale roles — from Google's ads team to a SaaS startup he helped sell to a unicorn. Now he's building Impact Pilot, a customer success tool that lives inside HubSpot, not next to it. Three months after launch, HubSpot announced a competing feature. Here's what happened next.

In this episode:

→ Why standalone CS platforms create "ghost towns" of stale data

→ The difference between customer support and customer success (and why it matters for retention)

→ The classic first-hire mistake that sets CS teams up to fail

→ How to use AI in customer success without damaging real customer relationships

→ Why Pieter raised only $500K — and what he used it for

→ The one tactic that keeps customers renewing: celebrate their wins with them

This episode is for B2B SaaS founders and revenue leaders thinking seriously about post-sale growth, churn, and when (and how) to build a CS function.

----------- Episode's Chapters -----------

0:00 — Introduction & Welcome

0:34 — Pieter's Background: From Google to SaaS Startup Founder

2:04 — Customer Support vs. Customer Success Explained

3:11 — Do All SaaS Companies Need a CS Team?

5:05 — Why Impact Pilot is Built Inside HubSpot (Not Standalone)

10:09 — Why HubSpot Over Salesforce? Narrowing the ICP

12:21 — Bootstrapping to Angel Round: The Fundraising Mindset Shift

15:04 — How to Start Customer Success as a SaaS Founder

19:07 — Using AI in Customer Success: Use Cases & Guardrails

31:02 — What "Being Active on LinkedIn" Actually Means

34:42 — Building Your First CS Team the Right Way