Learning to listen to sermons does’t just happen by showing up, and the next generation needs to learn how to listen to sermons. It’s by listening to sermons with the desire to grow and think critically, week by week, over many years, that people learn and grow. In this episode, Bryan Catherman and Josiah Walker discuss the idea of preaching as discipleship and training. What is preaching? How does it do the training and discipleship work? Should the Gospel be there every week? What kind of preaching? They discuss these questions and many others. Copyright 2026. In addition, this episode of Salty Believer Unscripted was unsponsored by 9Marks and therefore, shared an unsolicited, unpaid advertisement for the 9Marks podcast, “Bible Talk.” (Seriously, 9Marks didn’t pay us to talk about it and don’t even know we did it. We just like “Bible Talk.”)