Boo Thang Cheating & Credit Card Stealing Biathletes w/ Emily Fleming

Summary

Scam Goddess: "Boo Thang Cheating & Credit Card Stealing Biathletes"

Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Emily Fleming
Release Date: March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Scam Goddess dives into Olympic-level drama with biathlete credit card fraud and on-podium cheating confessions. Host Laci Mosley welcomes comedian and writer Emily Fleming to break down two headline-grabbing scams from the 2026 Winter Olympics: a French champion skimming a teammate’s card, and a Norwegian bronze medalist getting very messy about his love life. Together, Laci and Emily deliver insight, laughs, and biting commentary on schemes, emotional manipulation, and the peculiar world of Winter Olympic sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Emily Fleming’s Scam History & Scam-Proofing (07:09)

• Emily admits she’s an easy target: “I’m the easiest person to scam.” (07:09)
• She and her family are considering code words to prevent AI-based phone scams.
• Emily’s password method is to write “cryptic messages to whoever is trying to hack me," e.g., “I’ll kill you Mom123!” (08:35)
• Laci: “You just said you want to be on a watchlist.” (08:45)

2. Venmo & PayPal Woes: The Real Financial Scams (10:25)

• Emily lost money from her bank account via hacking and struggled to convince the bank it was fraud.
• Laci shares her ongoing beef with PayPal’s “suggested contacts,” warning listeners to avoid suggested lists because they're not actually your contacts. (11:17)
• Both reminisce about Venmo’s old, less-private days of visible transaction notes.
• Laci: "Venmo was like, I actually don't know if y’all are selling drugs anymore, so you have to stop doing this." (12:30)

3. Winter Olympics: Biathlons, Ice Skating, and Near-Death Events (18:40)

• Emily’s take: “I’m a bigger fan of the winter because it’s like, who’s gonna die?” (18:40)
• Laci and Emily riff on how the biathlon (cross-country skiing plus rifle shooting) is the most extra and dangerous-sounding Olympic event.
  • Emily: “They’re trying to die...Let’s put a gun in there.” (21:18)
  • Laci: "What if we have people slide down a very, very high incline with no ramp, and then they gotta fly through the air?" (21:12)
• Hilarious thought experiment about how to “spice up” Olympic curling with guns.

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Deep Dive: Olympic Biathlon Credit Card Scam (Historic Hoodwinks Segment, 17:49–43:17)

The Case of Julia Simon & Credit Card Fraud (19:18)

• French biathlete Julia Simon, a top competitor, was convicted of fraudulently using teammate Justine Braisaz-Bouchet’s credit card, amassing about $2,000 in charges over a year.
• Simon also used her team physiotherapist's card.
• She denied the crime for three years, claiming identity theft—until police found photos of the stolen cards on her phone.
  • Emily: “So Julia confessed…but still maintains that she has no memory of the crimes.” (32:46)
  • Laci: “But if I don’t remember it, did I really do it?” (33:07)

Olympic Justice, or Not?

• Julia Simon was fined $34,000 and suspended six months but won gold at the 2026 Olympic games anyway.
• Laci: “I’m not doing $34,000 in restitution for $2,000 stolen…Please be serious.” (36:38)
• Emily questions whether the ski federation has “its own jail. Kind of like a mall cop or what?” (37:06)

Internal Team Drama & Victim-Blaming

• The teammate who reported Simon’s theft, Justine, placed 79th at the Olympics and faced online abuse from biathlon fans.
• Laci: “If you’re finishing 80th in the Olympics, girl…at least if you were second place, I could kind of understand this subterfuge. But baby, you got 78 other people to put in jail.” (41:33)

Notable Quotes

• Laci: “Cheaters never win…but sometimes you gotta cheat ‘em to beat ‘em.” (19:18)
• Emily: “Your identification looks the exact same. This is why the credit card fraud was probably so easy.” (39:57)

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The Podium Cheating Confessional (45:36–64:07)

The Norwegian Bronze Medalist: Sad Boy Antics

• Norwegian biathlete Sturla Holm Lægreid used his bronze medal moment to confess to cheating on his girlfriend.
• His on-air speech: “Half a year ago, I met the love of my life…But I made the mistake of my life and I cheated on her.” (48:01)
• Laci: “If you cheat, you at least better get gold. Don’t tell me you cheating and you sitting over there in the bronze.” (45:49)
• Laci and Emily agree the public confession was more manipulative than apologetic.

The Fallout

• Sturla’s ex-girlfriend quickly made a public statement rejecting his attempt at reconciliation: “I did not choose to be put in this position and it hurts to have to be in it.” (61:05)
• Emily: “No girl’s gonna want to date him ever again.”
• Laci (realistic): “Oh, please. The bar is in hell.” (63:57)

Humor Highlights

• Emily is appalled to learn Sturla is only 28: “That guy is 28? That’s a hard 28.” (52:28)
• Emily on the men of the Olympics: “Put your skis next to the floor with your rifle and shit…” (61:44)

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Other Memorable Moments

• Emily gifts Laci and the producer handmade jewelry from her Etsy shop, Flemgems. (03:57–06:31)
• Discussion of reality TV and the evolution from wild early-2000s fame to today’s engineered drama. (30:49–31:59)
• Laci and Emily bond over being driven by music nostalgia and being accident-prone non-drivers in LA. (13:36–14:08)
• The two riff satirically about scammy education (ACT/SAT) and reality TV shows like "Traitors" and "The Surreal Life." (54:49–55:40)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Laci (re: scammers): “It's all about needs. It's not about naivete or intellect…there's always going to be someone out there to exploit it.” (07:24)
• Emily: “My passwords recently have all been cryptic messages to whoever is trying to hack me.” (08:32)
• Laci: “You just said you want to be on a watch list.” (08:45)
• Emily: “I'm gonna dox them, find out where they live. I'm not playing with that.” (10:08)
• Laci: “Cheaters don’t want an open relationship. They want to cheat for the thrill.” (51:37)
• Emily: “Honesty is not horny. Laci Mosley, 2026.” (52:06)
• Laci: “The bar is in hell.” (63:57)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|----------------| | Emily’s scam susceptibility + passwords | 07:09–09:06 | | Venmo/PayPal/Bank Scams | 10:25–12:34 | | Winter Olympics/biathlon explained | 18:40–21:31 | | Julia Simon credit card scandal details | 19:18–28:35 | | Olympics "justice" & suspensions | 36:08–37:37 | | Teammate drama & victim-shaming | 39:01–41:33 | | Podium cheating confessional | 45:36–54:19 | | Reactions to public cheating apology | 60:32–64:07 |

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Episode Tone & Style

Lighthearted, irreverent, and wickedly funny, with a unique blend of gossip, social commentary, and scam analysis. Both Laci and Emily lean into candid confessions, pop culture tangents, and millennial humor—never missing a chance for a sharp punchline or a devastating reality check.

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Final Thoughts

This episode skewers the high-drama, low-stakes scams of the winter sports world, highlighting the absurdity of life among the ultra-competitive (and occasionally criminal) athletes. Laci and Emily’s chemistry and wit make for an engaging breakdown—reminding listeners that behind every scam is a story, and sometimes, the real con is thinking things will ever, truly, make sense.

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Where to Find the Guest:

• Instagram: @mfleemily
• Jewelry on Etsy: Flemgems
• Watch: Meals of History on Mythical Kitchen
• Listen: Free with Ads Podcast

Where to Find Laci/Scam Goddess:

• Instagram: @divalaci / @scamgoddesspod
• TikTok: @scamgoddesspod
• Live show tickets and book info at Ticketmaster.com Goddess

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“Honesty is not horny.” —Emily Fleming, quoting Laci Mosley (52:06)

“If you’re finishing 80th in the Olympics…you got 78 other people to put in jail.” —Laci Mosley (41:33)

“The bar is in hell.” —Laci Mosley (63:57)

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As always, congregation: Stay schemin’!

Transcript

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[Emily Fleming]

Warning.

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The following film is so intense, we are only allowed to advertise it for 15 seconds. Excuse me, Sussy Bates. They will kill you. Only in theaters March 27th.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Rated R. Scams. Cuns. Robbery and fraud scams. Cause robbery and fraud. What's poppin? Congregation, it's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Back with you for the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will see along the way, Congregation, y', all, I started a TikTok for Scam Goddess pod y' all get on that page. I'll be posting videos up there in my own videos where I talk about popping scams and the zeitgeist that I cannot discuss on this show because of legal reasons. I told y' all the Abugaru fund is not set for me to get sued. Okay, but congregation, you already know I'm very. What? Yes, Excited, thrilled, elated. Today we have an actress, writer and standup comedian on the show. You've seen her on episodes of one of my favorite shows that's on Netflix, Unbreakable, Kimmy Schmidt and Netflix's sketch series, the characters. She currently works for the popular YouTube series Good Mythical Morning with Rhett and Link. You can watch her in Meals of History on Mythical Kitchen and listen to her podcast, Free with Ads, on Maximum Fun Network. Congregation, please welcome Emily Fleming to the show. Hi. Hello.

[Emily Fleming]

Thank you so much. And it's the thing about the podcast being called Free with Ads. It makes people go, well, what's the name of it? That's literally the name of the podcast, Free with Ads. Yeah, it's just about movies that are free with ads on the Internet, on YouTube and stuff like that. So that's what it's about.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. You're helping the economy because the girls are shrinking their subscription services.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. And it's like on, you know, Pluto and all that stuff, too.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I've got a new business proposition. It's called Plugged in, where all all of the shows are on one Network and you pay one flat fee for all of them.

[Emily Fleming]

I mean, you mean cable?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, just.

[Emily Fleming]

No, no, no.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's new. It's called Plugged In.

[Emily Fleming]

I mean, that would be a great. That's a great app idea where it's like you pick your shows and then it just creates a little package for you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, yeah. And then what if the streamers just got a cut of how many shows that they liked from the network that they own?

[Emily Fleming]

And then I bet they'd learn which

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

things to buy and which things to not cancel.

[Emily Fleming]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Because it's become a Ponzi scheme. And I know this from, like, heads of networks who have told me on shows like, our main concern is getting new subscribers. So even if a show is successful, those subscribers. That's old money. They already got your money. They trying to have a new splashy show with some hot, sexy teens getting murdered in a small town, and then they'll turn it right off as soon as they got your 17.99.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I think. Well, it's also like, how do you figure out ratings when it's on streaming? Like, that's. And I don't know how that works. I mean, on YouTube, you could see the view count. So I always kind of wonder.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They get to make it up.

[Emily Fleming]

Really? See, I'm about to start my own channel and I don't know if I've got the cash flow to.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We're getting so many ratings.

[Emily Fleming]

Don't make it up yet.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Biggest ratings, huge.

[Emily Fleming]

Well, hey, I have a little gift for you and your producer, Jess.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. What's that?

[Emily Fleming]

I have a jewelry little brand.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, wow.

[Emily Fleming]

On an Etsy store, it's all real gemstones and it's either sterling silver or gold filled.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Nice.

[Emily Fleming]

Which. So I made you. It looked like you liked red.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes, I love red.

[Emily Fleming]

So these are real faceted garnet.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, thank you so much.

[Emily Fleming]

That's a little polishing cloth. And then I've got. For Jess, I'll give these. And they've got the gold.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I love gold. Yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

That's gold filled. So gold filled is better than plated because it's molecularly bonded to the base metal, which means, like, you know, a plated is just like kind of on

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

top of slapping it on.

[Emily Fleming]

Gold filled is like there's gold underneath and on the top of the base metal. And then it is bonded, like kind of how you dunk a cookie in milk. It becomes part of it. So it's not an alloy. It's bonded. So it doesn't. It won't come off.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

How did you get into this?

[Emily Fleming]

I worked in estate jewelry since I was 15. I've started working at estate jewelry store AJ Martin Estate Jewelry store in Nashville. I'm from Nashville. Okay. So if you go to Nashville, go to AJ Martin estate jewelry and ask, say that Frosty sent you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Frost. Okay, See, this already sounds scamming to me already. Frosty.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And the lady, Emily, you have red hair. Where did Frosty come from?

[Emily Fleming]

No, this is fake. This is a scam. In high school, I was eventually diagnosed with ADHD.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Same.

[Emily Fleming]

But when I was 15, I was flaky and had a hard time paying attention. So I was Frosted Flake, which turned into Frosty.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love that.

[Emily Fleming]

And so it's still Frosty, but, like. So she. If you say that I sent you, she might be nicer to you. She's a character.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love that. I feel like in a state jewelry, you have to be. Because is this, like, coming from people when they passed away, or is it, like, also, like, people who got divorced? Or is it, like.

[Emily Fleming]

I mean, it's from. I think the jewelers go to estate sales, and maybe that's what it's from. But also, she does this cool thing where she makes engagement rings more affordable by creating, like, molds of vintage settings.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, nice.

[Emily Fleming]

So she can reproduce, like, old. Old settings with new stones put in, so gemstones and stuff. So. So it's, like, not as expensive as if you bought the original piece, but it's still the design that you would like. She's really cool. I'm, like, promoting this store. But no, she's amazing. Her stuff is amazing. Go check it out and tell her I sent you. But, Jess, I made you some little amethyst drops because I looked at Yalls Instagram and you kind of do the delicate thing. You do the more delicate, which I'm wearing more.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Crime boss.

[Emily Fleming]

I'm going, those are really good garnets. So you know, these are so beautiful because you have good jewelry.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I post them on the Instagram.

[Emily Fleming]

Like, you've got my dream jewelry that, like, I really want some Van Cleef and I really want some Cartier, like, one day. But for now, I'm doing that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You're naming all my jewelry? Girl, it's all fake.

[Emily Fleming]

It's all beautiful. No, no, you should. You should collect pieces that you'll have forever, of course.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Allegedly.

[Emily Fleming]

And then put me in your will.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And then it goes to the estate,

[Emily Fleming]

which I will die first.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But I don't know about that.

[Emily Fleming]

We never know. You don't this is the first day you met me. You'll find out.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, speaking of meeting you, we always ask on this podcast, em, what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? It could literally be anything.

[Emily Fleming]

I'm the easiest person to scam. I am very, like, I don't know. I feel like I trust people at first. I'm getting better. Even though I'm almost 40. Why am I still, like, falling for this stuff?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But I don't think there's an age to it.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's all about needs. It's not about naivete, it's not about intellect. It's just about if you have a specific need, especially if that need is urgent, there's always going to be someone out there to accept, exploit it.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, manipulation. I'm pretty easy to manipulate.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'd say everybody giving it all up for free. She's just giving it out. Well, the scammers listening, like, well, here's the thing.

[Emily Fleming]

I'll tell you how I started to protect myself. My family is going to do that thing where you create the. You know, the. The secret code word for if somebody's actually happening. Yeah. So if somebody's pretending to be a family member and call you with like an AI voice or whatever, that we know the password so that you know they can't scam you. Okay, but we haven't figured that out yet. But I'm getting ones for every family member, and I'm like, using packaging tape to laminate them on little cards, and it's hard to think of ones for different people.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why can't you all just have the same one?

[Emily Fleming]

No, I'm not playing with that. Because what if. What if one of them, well, one

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

of your cousins be yapping and they gonna give it up?

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I don't trust it. I want everyone to have their own. My passwords recently have all been cryptic messages to whoever is trying to hack me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, okay, so you write like a little letter. That's your password. I do.

[Emily Fleming]

So I've changed all of these, but these are past ones I've used. I brought them with me. I'll kill youl Mom. 1, 2, 3, exclamation point. I'm talking to you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So you just said you want to, like, you want to be on a watch list. Yeah, no, I want to steal. Who's ever definitely knows where you are, Emily.

[Emily Fleming]

I will find you 666. I have a special set of skills. 7, 6, 8, 9. And I will find out where you live. 1, 800, try me, bitch. Like, those are all ones that I've done and now there's other ones, but, like, they're different now. I'm not doing those anymore.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

These are pretty menacing. You also have, like, full sentences. I know you password protected. Uppercase, lowercase. Special character.

[Emily Fleming]

Dash special character. Everywhere I can. Yeah. So I do those. So it's like, don't get me. But also, I don't know where you

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

live, but I'll figure out, you know, you give them that Liam Neeson.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, the Liam Neeson. Find out where you live.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Neck chop. 2, 8, 1, 4, 3. Neck chop.

[Emily Fleming]

Neck chop.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's a good one, y'. All. Take that. Somebody take that one. Okay, that movie, he barely shot anybody. He just hit him in the neck.

[Emily Fleming]

Like. Oh, I bet a neck chop. I think that just getting hit in the nose is the worst. Have you ever, like, accidentally just subtly hit your nose on something?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I have not. Takes you goodness out. Like, it takes you out. I do know that thrusty move that they taught us. They're like, women. Learn how to thrust the nose bone into the brain.

[Emily Fleming]

That is so painful. I bet the point where I don't even want to do it, Like, I feel so bad for it. But yeah. Eyeballs and nose.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yep.

[Emily Fleming]

This is going great.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It is. So Emily's solutions to fighting scammers is physically fighting them.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I'm gonna dox them, find out

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

where they live them. You're taking a head on approach.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, head on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, that's right. So we don't even need the police nod. Don't worry about it. I got it.

[Emily Fleming]

Those are my scams, I guess. Like, I'm trying to prevent the scams. It's been like, you know, I've been hacked. I've dealt with all of it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

When you were hacked, what happened?

[Emily Fleming]

They got into my bank account.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, shit. They got into the real hacking.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, it was bad. And some money disappeared, but I'm terrible with money anyway, so it's like, it took some convincing at bank of America.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, no.

[Emily Fleming]

That PayPal didn't just take that out because I did it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Bank of America is always like, this, this you. We don't know you.

[Emily Fleming]

This one looked like something I'd do. I have an ebay addiction. Okay, so PayPal is always. I'm riding it up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

PayPal is. I'm beefing with PayPal right now. Because, like, if you. PayPal will suggest people from your contacts to send, and they will add random people with the same name that aren't in your contacts. I made a mistake and sent money to someone like that before I canceled it immediately. PayPal still sent it through. They lied about it. They said that the bank was holding it up. I called my bank. My bank was like, no, we're not doing well.

[Emily Fleming]

They use an image of someone you know, too?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, but they, like, it was just like the. All the names were similar, and I just accidentally clicked the wrong one. Immediately realized because it just goes through after one. There's no, like, seconds in confirmation.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, Zella, be like, you sure? Are you really sure, girl? For real, though? Cause if it's gone, it's gone. Don't call us. PayPal's like, yes, bye. Like, what the fuck? And then, like, they don't have a way to call them. You have to just message them. It's all AI chatbots. They completely screwed me over. Fuck PayPal. And I think the reason that the company did it was because the commission on the amount that I sent, they just wanted to keep their part of it.

[Emily Fleming]

Of course.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You guys are bastards. So I recommend Zell or be really, really careful with PayPal. And don't ever use their suggested list, because it's not just people, you know, it's not your contacts. They liter put anybody in there. It's crazy. I hope they were able to do

[Emily Fleming]

that to scam me. So it's like, I guess that's, you know, Venmo's been okay so far.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I lost my login to Venmo. Oh, no. But I do miss getting on Venmo because I liked being nosy. I like, before, they had a private Venmo, and you just had to show everything that you were Venmoing.

[Emily Fleming]

Well, you could still see people's emojis and go, I wonder what that was for.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? But that's only if they want you to see it, because you can put your Venmo on private now.

[Emily Fleming]

Nah, I put those little emojis in there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm like, I want to see it. It used to be fun, too. We used to troll it, like, Facebook and be like, for drugs. And then Venmo was like, I don't know if y' all are serious.

[Emily Fleming]

It's like, Snowflake, Snowflake, Snowflake, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Venmo was like, I actually don't know if y' all selling drugs anymore, so you have to stop doing this.

[Emily Fleming]

No, we went to the ice rink. Yeah, we know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We Went to the ice rink. This is like, yeah, you know, the ice rink got eight balls of ice.

[Emily Fleming]

Dude. I was thinking about ice skating. Well, of course, the Olympics, but I was thinking about ice skating.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I've been obsessed with Alyssa Liu.

[Emily Fleming]

It was so good. But I was remembering how, you know Madonna's album Ray of Light? Remember? It's my favorite, like, Madonna album. But there's that song Frozen, and it's

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

kind of in your heart.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, damn. You got a good voice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love that album. I love that album.

[Emily Fleming]

And, like, when I went to ice skating parties as a kid and that came out, we would just. I sucked at ice skating. So we would just be on our knees, like, doing the music video in the middle of the ice skating rink. And I think that was more fun than the skating, honestly.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If the music was on, like, oh,

[Emily Fleming]

I would request it. I'd go up and request for them to play it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What a time. I love that for you. Look, you still got out on the ice. You didn't have to skate. You still have the vibes.

[Emily Fleming]

I won't ever do it again. I will never ice skate again.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What?

[Emily Fleming]

I'm not interested in getting injured doing things I don't want to do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay.

[Emily Fleming]

Like, I'll go get injured. I don't know, drinking.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

A lot of people do that.

[Emily Fleming]

A lot of people shopping or something.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes, Shopping will do that. Fine.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. Like, doing something. But I'm not. You cannot catch me on roller skates. On ice skates. I don't drive.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You don't drive?

[Emily Fleming]

No.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do you live in Los Angeles?

[Emily Fleming]

Yes, I do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And you don't drive. Wow. That is a flex.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't want to do it. I've lived here 10 years.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You're not in those waymos, though, are you?

[Emily Fleming]

Hell, no. I will never get in a Waymo, okay?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm like, your life is way more dangerous if you're in one of those.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't drive partially because I don't want to deal with the police. And then a Waymo went right into a middle of a

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

standoff.

[Emily Fleming]

So, no, Waymo's not doing what I want, so I'm not doing that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I just don't understand why they exist. I think we've gotten to a point in technology where we've done enough, and now they're trying to force. Remember when technology used to be exciting? I feel like this is such a st. Yeah, we're like the nano. And then remember when everything got smaller? And that was sexy. They was like, oh, it's so tiny. It's so tiny. Infinity. Your hand, like. Yeah, this is a cell phone. You just put it up to your mouth and you clip this part.

[Emily Fleming]

What happened to the chip in our brains? Like, where's that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, where's the chip? Where's. Where's the black mirror? Like, I push my. My temple and then it's like I watch a movie.

[Emily Fleming]

Gonna ruin us with AI. Do it right in my brain.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's so sad. I. I really wish that all the bigots out there would realize that that's really the real replacement theory. Girl, they trying. Yeah, not brown people. Brown people are not the AI you think.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, but I'm coming to get you because I know where your mom lives. 666, exclamation point.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, Emily's got a special set of skills and she's coming. Okay, Scouts.

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[Emily Fleming]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Emily Fleming]

I don't know. I'm a bigger fan of the winter because it's like, wow. It's like, who's gonna die? You know, the Summer Olympics is like, yay, sports. The Winter Olympics is like, oh, boy, here comes the skeleton. Somebody's gonna die.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, listen, you're right. The. The airlifting people be like, no, this is our moment. But they be waiting. They're like, somebody's gonna.

[Emily Fleming]

We've been practicing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Keep the chopper running because somebody's gonna need to get picked up.

[Emily Fleming]

No, it's true. Cuz when I was. I can't remember, there was a Winter Olympics when I was a kid, and there was somebody who went over the edge of the thing and I went, is he gonna be okay? My mom was like, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So French Olympic skier Julia Simon, who was convicted of committing credit card fraud against her teammate just won a gold medal in her event. And her victim came in 80th place, proving that crime does pay, at least in certain winter. So this is her now. She got the shoe signed up. Like, don't tell nobody I was robbing everybody. Like, what? Julia Simon. So, you know, they say that, like, cheaters never win, but you know, sometimes you gotta cheat em to beat em. And she did credit card fraud against somebody she was competing against. She won gold. And the victim came in 80th place. So we'll start with what sport Julia competes in. So she does the biathlon. Now that's the event that combines two winter sports, right? So the first is cross country skiing, and the other one rifle shooting. Actually, literally just I'm. I met a new friend who's an Olympian and learned about the biathlon. So it's like they do all the skiing and then they ski down. And then they got to go to this area where they're doing their, like, marksman with the. With the rifle. So they have to shoot down these targets. Now you got to shoot them down. Like if you miss one, then you got to spin a block to go get some more bullets. So then you got to go ski back. You got to go ski back again and get you some more bullets. And you got to come back down and be like. And then if you don't make it all the way, you got to ski back around, ski back around, get some more bullets and they go. And now, now I know what you're

[Emily Fleming]

thinking, why Yosemite Sam came up with this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Honestly, that's one thing I do love about the Winter Olympics. Cause they just be doing anything. I know they be doing anything. They were like, I don't know, what if we have them ski and then they shoot and then they gotta go get some more bullets in there.

[Emily Fleming]

Listen, Taser skiing, that's coming back. We're gonna do that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Taser skiing is where it's like we tase them while they skiing, and then they gotta get back up and keep skiing. And if they don't, then they out. What about that?

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, this is it. Vikings is this thing that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What if we have people slide down a very, very high incline with no ramp, and then they gotta fly through the air and then somehow land. This is.

[Emily Fleming]

They're trying to die. Like, let's get. You know what's dangerous going downhill on ice on very fast skis. Let's put a gun in there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, let's put a gun in there. Cause it wasn't dangerous enough. And they were like, how can we make it more dangerous?

[Emily Fleming]

One hand has scissors, the other one has a Glock.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Let's go. That's at the top of the ski poles. A Glock and scissors. It's like, what are we doing?

[Emily Fleming]

Just got duct tape, like, holding them on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They were like, y' all are gonna watch the Olympic. The Winter Olympics. Okay, y' all said we were pouring. Now we got guns. What else do you want? Okay.

[Emily Fleming]

Clockwork Orange.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just two eyes, like, taped open.

[Emily Fleming]

That's great.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So it did come from a tradition apparently called ski warfare, which was common in countries like Norway, Sweden, and Denmark for hundreds of years now. Norway and Denmark, y' all ain't never been nobody's war countries. So this makes sense. Ski warfare. What are we doing? Like, this is like. So now we have this photo. It'll be on the Instagram. We have. Is he holding a baby?

[Emily Fleming]

Yep. Looks like a baby, which they left it with two men. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why would you leave two men with skis and an ax and a baby? And swords and bows and arrows. Okay, so we have two men. They look like they're from the Elden times. They're wearing lots of.

[Emily Fleming]

They're wearing a helmet. Does the baby have a helmet?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Baby ain't got no helmet. Baby got a hat. Maybe. Maybe it's a little baby helmet. He's got a little hat. But. So these men are skiing. They have spears and, like, arrows tucked behind their backs. They're wearing furs. They're wearing, like, metal armor.

[Emily Fleming]

It's a gorgeous painting.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It really is.

[Emily Fleming]

I hope to God this is an AI I know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And they're. And they're skiing downhill, I guess, to go to war. You know how sometimes you got to bring your baby to work because you don't got no sitter?

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So you got to bring your baby to work.

[Emily Fleming]

Definitely. I don't have one. I don't have one.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't have a baby either.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. I don't know about bringing them to war, but I guess they got to be employed. I'm like, what is the baby gonn? They have a shield in front of the baby, but the baby's clearly still exposed.

[Emily Fleming]

That's true. You know, I wanna babysit my friend's kids, and they won't let me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Really?

[Emily Fleming]

I know. I don't know what that's about.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like it would probably be too fun. They can stay up, have candy for dinner.

[Emily Fleming]

I have a dress up, like, chest full of costumes. And wigs. Like I am the ultimate cool girl babysitter and I have tons of arts and crafts supplies and I'll only be a little drunk. Not like, not all the way drunk. Like just two amstel lights in, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I won't leave the stove on or nothing. Babies will be chilling a nip of

[Emily Fleming]

old GR granddad whiskey.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I think they're worried that they're gonna put the give them a little nip. No time for bed.

[Emily Fleming]

Why would I share? I'm not giving them anything. They can wear my little dress up clothes and then I gotta take them back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why would I share is hilarious. Not like, oh, I've never do that to kids. Why would I share?

[Emily Fleming]

No, that's fine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That was the real thing with the scam about Halloween. I remember they always be like, oh the kids are gonna like check all the Halloween candy because adults are putting weed in the kids candy. We were like, why would they do that? Why would I give you my good weed to the kids?

[Emily Fleming]

Also those are my razor blades. I'm on a budget.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

These kids are unemployed. You want them to give. You want me to give them my good hard earned weed? No, absolutely not. So the ski warfare. So they're saying that this comes from a real place where they used to do this in Denmark and Sweden where they would ski and they would fight on the skis. In the Olympics, biathletes ski is a cross country race and they stop periodically for shooting bouts. Who would choose to compete in this random and somewhat threatening combination of two unrelated things? And well, it's, it's the perfect example of a very specific type of person. Because how'd you get into these kind of shenanigans? And what I'm talking about is like movie villains, you know, like when James Bond is hiding out in a ski chalet. Like these type of people. This is who. And look, we have a little clip here. What of James Bond and the ski chalet.

[Emily Fleming]

Look at this devo looking guy that looks like a baby on his back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So let's see what's going on in this, this, this ski chalet. He's got a baddie in there. She's in a robe. He's like, bye girl, I got a service.

[Emily Fleming]

England.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love that he's taller than the door.

[Emily Fleming]

Oo, look at that fur.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh yes, let's go. My mom. Oh, but she's a honey pot. So as soon as he close the door, he just left. He has just left. Over and out. Message received.

[Emily Fleming]

We are waiting. Over and out.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cinema. Cinema.

[Emily Fleming]

What a. What a, you know, incognito outfit, too, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Bright yellow on the snow. Nobody's gonna catch it.

[Emily Fleming]

It's like a big McDonald's commercial outfit that he's got going on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And then the bad guys are wearing red and black, so nobody's really hidden. Yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

We wanna know whose team everybody's on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So right now, they're shooting at James Bond while he's skiing. You know how you be skiing and dodging bullets? Yeah, yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

Where's a bear when you need one, Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Beautiful. So, you know, this is a very specific type of thing. So somebody must have watched this James Bond movie and was like, I wanna do that. And the Olympics was like, bo news for you.

[Emily Fleming]

I wonder how long this sport has been in the Winter Olympics.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, the concept of it has been around for a while. I don't know how long this sport has existed. We can pull that up. But while we do that. So we have some French biathlon drama. So, Right. We have Julie Simone. She's 29, and she's the most decorated French athlete in the world championship history. She competed at the 2022 and 2026 Winter Olympics, where she won one silver and two gold medals, respectively. She's a. In the biathlon community. So they said if they see a gun and some skis, like, it's time to call Julia. Okay. Okay. Pew. Pew. And this is the biathlon has been in the Olympics since 1960.

[Emily Fleming]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. Hey, that's a while. That's a while. What is that, like, 65 years that people have been skiing and shooting and shooting and skiing. So she was accused of repeatedly using the credit card of her French teammate, Justine Blaset Bourget, and of the French team.

[Emily Fleming]

You know, she's got money on that credit card, but that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. Justine Blaset. Bougie.

[Emily Fleming]

Like, come on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, Bougie is in your name, girl.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. You got, like.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What do you mean, you got money, girl? Ms. Bourget.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. Your credit extension has got to be high, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, I feel like you probably didn't even notice. Mush Bourge. And she was also using this physiotherapist card number two to make online shopping purchases of almost $2,000 between 2021 and 2020, 2021 and 2022. You stole $2,000 from two people. One of them is bougie. I don't feel like they would notice that amount of money gone two years, $2,000 in this economy, like, they probably just thought it's not giving, like, a Lot of credit card for her.

[Emily Fleming]

Do we know what she spent the money on?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She was doing online shopping purchases. And honestly, this is giving me like, you got your Amazon on restock for toilet paper or something. Like, I don't know how much you're getting in $2,000 over two years plus shipping and handling. Yeah, yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

Well, maybe she a free shipping membership on whatever.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? Well, even if she got a membership and she charging it to the card, shit is expensive these days. I can't bat my eyes at $2,000 worth of the theft over two years or one year.

[Emily Fleming]

I could change my life with $2,000. Personally, I just feel like over a year.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

$2,000? Yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

That's nothing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's nothing.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. I probably bum drinks for my friends for that amount.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. I don't want to know what's costing me $2,000 a year. I already know and I don't want to know it. So at first she denied doing it, and for three years, she said she was a victim of identity theft and was innocent. So she said, identity theft? You. They identity thefted me. She tried to make herself the victim here. And during.

[Emily Fleming]

She couldn't find a hairbrush with that

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

credit card because she was too busy being identity thieves. You know, she was like, look at me.

[Emily Fleming]

Is she the one who stole the stuff or is she the one who got stolen?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Julia Simone.

[Emily Fleming]

That's right. Okay, I'll make fun of your.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So, yes, no, we have free reign. Free reign to make fun of her hair. So we know she didn't buy a brush with the $2,000. So during her court hearing in October of 2025, it was revealed that she had pictures of the stolen credit cards on her phone.

[Emily Fleming]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So I will say that this specific type of sport, like especially the Winter Olympics in general, I find you have to have. It's like a higher barrier to entry because you can't just ski without having money. Skiing is an expensive sport to get into in the first place, and you have to have access to these places to ski. All proper equipment, instructor, all of these things. Right.

[Emily Fleming]

A lot of people don't know that all Olympic athletes, they don't get paid to be at the Olympics like it is. You are doing this for the love of the game, pretty much.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, some of them be homeless. Like, Flavor Flav has literally been sponsoring Olympic athletes.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. Was it the water polo team for the women's. And now he's like, isn't he paying for the women's hockey team to have like a fun time in Vegas? Or something.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, he's doing something for the women's team, but he's like. And I know. I wish he was getting the respect that Snoop Dogg gets the Olympics, because I'm like, flavor Flavors actually out here, like, cutting a check for these girls so they can go home with.

[Emily Fleming]

I know. And I know that, you know, Flavor of Love, there's some problematic stuff, but that was the 2000s.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

During that time, everything was so problematic.

[Emily Fleming]

I know. But, man, that show was great.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It was because those people had nothing to lose. Nobody was trying to get on there so they could sell, you know, flat tummy tea on Instagram. Like, the girls just did it for the love of the game.

[Emily Fleming]

They also just. They were just great, like, interesting people. Like, they really. None of them were alike.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They weren't trying to be a meme. They weren't like, they turned into them, but they weren't.

[Emily Fleming]

They were just themselves. I was also a Rock of Love fan as well.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I was too. I watched all of them. I'm sorry. I saw all the trash.

[Emily Fleming]

I mean, was it true? What was it true life? What was the one where all the celebrities were living in a house? Oh, man, this is gonna kill me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ooh. But there was one, because that's how Brigitte Nielsen and Flavor of Love met, and it was called, Ooh, I know

[Emily Fleming]

this is killing me. But yeah, no, that's how Flavor of Love became a show is cause of him on that show.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And charismatic, strange love after that. Was it the surreal Life? It was the surreal life. Thank you, Rachel.

[Emily Fleming]

It was the surreal, Surreal Life was amazing. And Verne Troyer, like, pissing in a bush.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Everything about it. People were unhinged. They had nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[Emily Fleming]

And some of it was, like, really sweet, too. Like, people had little friendships and stuff, and it was like, I don't know, kind of nice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It was before people got into this as a job. That was when reality TV was just like, I really want to be on tv and I'll just be myself. And now people are like, I'm a reality TV professional to be a club promoter. Yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

After, afterwards.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Would you.

[Emily Fleming]

Would you be on a reality TV show?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm not allowed to. What do you mean? But I can't. Career wise. But. But I have. There were some that I was like, I don't know. I would do, like, a dating show. I feel like I could do a dating show. I would never be allowed to.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't think there's any that seem that fun that I would do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Not anymore. Now they want to lock you in the dark, not give you food or water. And, like, make you go insane and then be like, look how crazy this person is.

[Emily Fleming]

Mr. Beast is on skis holding a gun to your head.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, he's chasing me down the hill. He's shooting me.

[Emily Fleming]

He's chasing me and 100 other people with different age ranges right down a hill. I have one almond. To survive for 30 days, I had

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

to ski over a grandma. She was still alive. Like, no, no, I cannot be in his fucking saw ass social experiments.

[Emily Fleming]

No, no, thank you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So she denied doing this, right? Julia said, I didn't do this. Right. I'm a victim too. During her court hearing in 2025, it was revealed that she had pictures, right, of the stolen credit cards on her phone. So that's a little.

[Emily Fleming]

It was Julia.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Julia confessed that she did do it.

[Emily Fleming]

Oops.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But still maintains that she has no memory of the crimes. She said, I can't explain it. I don't remember doing it. I can't make sense of it. Not that I was on Ambien and I stole credit card. Let's find a new one.

[Emily Fleming]

I mean, at this point, people really just don't know how to apologize. I think, like, and just fess up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But if I don't remember it, did I really do it?

[Emily Fleming]

She did it and she did it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you remember, falls in the floor forest. If a memory folds, a credit card fraud happens in a forest. Did it make a sound? Yeah, that's true.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, that's true.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Did it go boop boop? I don't know.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I don't know. But you know what's funny? I worked in retail in New York. That was like when I lived there and a little bit when I lived here in la and the big, like, I was a salesperson that had a client book, right? So you, you had people's credit card numbers, and so if they wanted to buy something, they'd call you and you'd go, okay, you want me to use this card? Here's your shipping. Because there were people I had that had like multiple homes, and they'd want two of the same things sent to different homes for wardrobe and stuff. But there were salespeople that would take their client books and go run up the card.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, some for you, some for me.

[Emily Fleming]

And I think that's. Cause it made other salespeople like, you know, it makes it look like a scam. And then your client book is screwed because people won't want to work with you because somebody yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Because it affects the whole reputation.

[Emily Fleming]

Somebody bought three nights at the Ritz Carlton, which. That's true. I worked with somebody who did that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. See, that's bold as hell to me. I feel like if you have somebody who's super rich and you're buying stuff for them and they're like, oh, can you buy these things? They're gonna know it's you. What if you bought those things and then you're like. And one for me, like, okay, that I can kind of understand. That's smarter. But for you to take their whole credit card to another establishment.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And check in.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Also, like, hotel credit card theft is one of the dumbest things you can do because maybe we know where you are. Yeah. When they get the alert, they're like, where are they? The Ritz Carlton.

[Emily Fleming]

That's how they busted him.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Robbery warning.

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The court found Julia guilty of her credit card fraud and fined her US$34,000 with a suspended sentence of three months in prison, which hasn't started yet. The French Ski Federation also found her guilty and gave her a six month suspension from skiing, which must not have started yet because she just won at the Olympics in February of this year. So they were like, yeah, you're suspended, but you also are very good at skiing and shooting. So come ski and shoot. Pow, pow, pow. And then you're suspended right after that. And then you got to go to jail.

[Emily Fleming]

That doesn't sound very suspended.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, also, I'm sorry, I'm not doing 34,000 in restitution for $2,000 stolen. You can get this two grand back and we could call it evid. I'll dap you up. $34,000? Please be serious. For what? Yeah, and who is it going to? The US government doesn't give restitution like that. Where's the money going? Wait, wait, wait.

[Emily Fleming]

So she's French and was skiing for France.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So she was skiing for France.

[Emily Fleming]

Okay. So. But it's like. So the ski federation, they got their own jail. Kind of like a mall cop or what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They kind of have just own sanctions where they're like, you did a bad thing so you can't represent us. But come to the Olympics though, girl. Cause this is really your bag. And then after that, no more. Yeah, for six months. Which this happens every four years. So this is not a real consequence.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, my God. Skiing people are like boring scammers.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

$4,000 for us to translate into US dollars. So. So this is. She's gonna probably have to pay it in Euros. However, it's still way more than what she stole.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, boy, that's. That does.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm still trying to understand where the fines are. And then also if I have to pay the equivalent of $34,000 in girls, why the hell am I going to jail?

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, it's true. Which this is really upsetting because it felt like the girly pops and stuff for. For the Olympics felt like, you know, this was a nice time for girls coming together and lifting each other up. And then you have to go and do this right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I just think $2,000 could have been settled internally. If you're finishing 80th in the Olympics, girl, why don't you just walk on over to the podium and see what you can get from old girl? I would have been like, look, you can keep your gold and your pristine reputation or I can take you to prison.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, she's going to be on the traitors eventually.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Truly.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So, yeah, I feel like that's how you get your reputation back. Lance Armstrong. You should take a note from this.

[Emily Fleming]

Go on, traders, go on, traitors.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Lance Armstrong. Traitors would be fired.

[Emily Fleming]

Who is the swimmer? Remember the swimmer? Yeah. He should be on the train.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He was what? Yes. I got to watch this show more. He was beautiful. He was very good looking.

[Emily Fleming]

What did he do? I can't remember. He like went somewhere.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I thought he just like tore up some shit. Like they were just wreaking headache on the city.

[Emily Fleming]

They did. And they like. And then they kind of ran or something like that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, it was like a liquor store or something. And then they like ran away.

[Emily Fleming]

So stupid.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Because he's dumb. It was dumb. It was a dumb thing.

[Emily Fleming]

I'm trying to think if I would run a scam, like, what would I even do? And I just don't see any of them working out for me. I'm not. Not good. I'm not a good liar.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I just wish that Julia had credit card fraud it harder. Cuz this just feels like a hassle now. Like, I'm very disappointed in you. What a waste of everyone's time. I want to know and did you really need it that badly? So Julia and Justine are both teammates and formerly best friends. The crimes happened in 2021, but the accusation became public in 2023, after Julia had won her first, as of this year, 10 world championship titles. So you and Julia. So Julia was besties with Justine. Justine is the victim. You know, Boujee. Justine bougey. You and Ms. Boujee were best days. And then you started winning stuff. And then all of a sudden she got a court case. Ms. Boujee, were you hating? It's giving a little hateration.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Aw.

[Emily Fleming]

They're. They look at this photo. They look exactly the same.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They really do.

[Emily Fleming]

They do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You could swap one of them out, I guess. One of them is the 80th and one is first. It's the only way to tell them

[Emily Fleming]

AP, this is why the credit card fraud was probably so easy. Your identification looks the exact same.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She could probably roll up with your driver's license and be like, it's me, Miss Boy, I wouldn't have known.

[Emily Fleming]

Lick the back of a. Of a disposable camera photo and then just put it on the driver's license.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, she didn't even have to do that. They look the same.

[Emily Fleming]

They do. It's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't know, Twin. If y' all were best friends, I feel like y' all could have worked this out.

[Emily Fleming]

They both look like their name is Katie.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They really do.

[Emily Fleming]

Couple of Katies.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, it's Julia and Justine, so we're not far.

[Emily Fleming]

They're hanging out next to like a dilapidated barn. Like, what are we?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So after Justine, you know, files these claims against her bestie, Justine became a target of extreme online abuse from biathlon fans. Because they were like, why would you do this? And she was the one who was the victim, she was like you, a hater.

[Emily Fleming]

This is, what is that Reddit thread like?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's very specific, I'm sure. Extremely so. This year, Julia won the gold medal, right. In the 15 kilometer individual biathlon and helped the French team win the 4x6 relay race gold medal. As she crossed the finish line, she held a finger up to her lips with the sh gesture. What's that? But refused to explain why she had done it. She said, I put my finger to my mouth. It was for one person and they know who because we had a talk, but I won't tell anybody about it. It's over. In the individual race, Justine finished 79th place behind her. Justine, I don't know, it's giving hater like, yeah, your bestie did a little

[Emily Fleming]

bit of credit card for her good at skiing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, your bestie did a little bit of credit card fraud and then she won gold. So you had to try to put her in prison.

[Emily Fleming]

Ye.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now you know, even if she's in prison, you still got 78 other to beat and ski shoot against. Okay? You're not nowhere near. At least if you were second place, I could kind of understand this subterfuge. Cuz you're like, okay, you got the best one out of here, but baby, you got 78 other people to put in jail. You better get to work. You got three years, girl, to get them all in prison, otherwise you ain't winning.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, that's a good scam, but okay,

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

so we're talking about cleaning up the corruption in the biathlon. I, I didn't even know there was corruption in the biathlon. Honestly, I learned about the biathlon a couple weeks ago.

[Emily Fleming]

I feel like I didn't get to watch this cuz fucking curling is on all the time. I'm sorry.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Gotta get them curls.

[Emily Fleming]

That's a scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love it. They just got the little scam.

[Emily Fleming]

I think people like it because they think they could do it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That and sometimes you need that in the Olympics. You need something in there that you think you could do.

[Emily Fleming]

It was. It's so boring to watch.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like everybody thinks they could do speed walking every time I watch it. And then the hips are moving like crazy and they got rules about how high your feet can get off the ground. Both feet can't be off the ground at the same time. They got the little hip moving. Like every time I see them speed walking, I'm like, I could do that shit. Like, I need that. I need that for my self esteem.

[Emily Fleming]

No, I mean, well, if, if like, if Curling could just, I don't know, get some guns in there, maybe that would be fun. I don't know, just shoot the little. The little clay pigeon thing. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, like y' all gotta shoot at each other first and then whoever's not maimed, then they.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I think that's good. A lot of it was just them talking. It was just a bunch of people gathering around going, well, I think we could move it here, right? Is this an. I'm like, oh my God. This is the most boring thing I've ever seen in my life. I know people love it, but it was just on all the time. Where's the gun? Skiing. I missed it. I totally missed it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, they're cleaning up the corruption, so the next time you see it, it's gonna be better than ever. The biathlon has been undergoing a bit of a reputation overhaul since Andy Anders Besberg, who had run the International biathlon union for 25 years, has resigned in 2018. So they trying to throw Anders under the bus and said, anders, Anders, you're the reason we have so much corruption in the biathlon. And so he was accused of accepting bribes. Not the bath of bribes. Uh oh, including an Omega watch, several hunting Trips, a leased BMW X5.

[Pepsi Advertiser]

Least.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Least. The hell. Is that a bribe, bitch? They can come get that at any time. Leased. I wish you would try to bribe me with a lease, bitch. The fuck is this? See, that's how you. That's a recession indicator. We bribing with leases now. Leases? You can't even give me a whole bribe. This is a temporary bribe. You're not even saying you financing it. That means you can't pay it off. The lease means it's got to go back at some point. What are we doing?

[Emily Fleming]

That's true.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The economy's bad, man. We can't even bribe like we used to, so. And the services of sex workers in return for protecting Russian interests during the state sponsored doping scandal. He was sentenced to three years in prison and banned for life from the sport. So I guess the girls were. He's paying the lease for protecting Russian interests because the Russians were juicing up so they could get out there and ski and shoot. I don't know how steroids helps with shooting, but you know, I mean, it

[Emily Fleming]

helps with everything, I think. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It helps with everything. I don't care. Not your hair, not your hair.

[Emily Fleming]

But also, Omega watches are so expensive. What's up with that? I almost worked for them really, one time.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, yeah, you would probably know a good deal about them because you've worked in the jewelry.

[Emily Fleming]

Well, in the watch thing. And it was like, oh, my God. These are like $30,000, like, watches, and you have to sell at least one a week or something to make commission. That's crazy. That's a scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. I mean, everything is the value that we, you know, give it. So that's the scam of life. So he was also sentenced to three years in prison. Right. While he was banned from the sport. For, um, Another Olympic biathlete at the same Olympics, just publicly confessed to cheating on his girlfriend from the bronze medal podium.

[Emily Fleming]

Gross.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's not a crime. But it's a bad look.

[Emily Fleming]

It is. It's like. And now she's. She's got a. Like, her friends. Everybody knows she's got to go to work, and everyone's going to be whispering behind her back. Gross.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like at that point, you can't whisper behind her back. Like, we just got to go to your face. Like, girl, we saw the Olympics. What? Like, first of all, you got third place and you got the nerve to tell me you're a cheater. If you cheat, you at least better get gold. Like, don't tell me you cheating and you sitting over there in the bronze.

[Emily Fleming]

It's just the most unromantic thing you could possibly do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What was your goal here? Did you think, like, well, I won bronze, so she's gonna take me back,

[Emily Fleming]

or maybe that I did this big public grand gesture admitting that I did something wrong. So this is me really taking full responsibility for it. But it's not. It's forcing her to take in his apology. Cause she doesn't want to talk to him.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I wouldn't have won bronze if I hadn't cheated on you. Boo. The cheating was a part of the winning.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, but it's like, the cheating would

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

have been part of it.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. No, I just think it's like, you know, because you don't owe anyone anything after something like that. You don't have to listen to their apology. But he kind of forced her to listen to an apology. I think that sucks.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Had he already told her that he cheated or was this a surprise?

[Emily Fleming]

I think she knew.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I think that.

[Emily Fleming]

That. And so there was something like that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do we have a video of him doing this? Let's watch this, cuz. I'm just saying. I am crying.

[Emily Fleming]

Old ass. I know. Stop. Stop it. He's trying to squeeze out a tear.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's cold out there, everybody. He's like

[Emily Fleming]

the sniffles. Give me a break.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right?

[Emily Fleming]

Some Disney Channel acting.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. Lord, now that I have a little bit more context. Sometimes y' all say context, and the context be all in the video. And I'm like, y', all, you're just looking for an excuse to let this person off the hook, but with this context. So he. He was like, I met the lady three months in, I started hoeing, and now I only have eyes for her. Now, if you are going to apologize, clearly she probably already knows that he's cheating. Yeah, I mean, at least he used the biggest moment of his life to humble himself. You know what I mean?

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I mean, I just think this is the most, like, it's manipulative for sure. Manipulative for sure, for sure.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But he didn't say her name, though. So only her homies in the water cooler gonna know is her. Because he was. Unless they got photos on Instagram.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, you know that people are just scrolling through his Instagram right now. They'll find her.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They'll find her. They are gonna find her.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. And then she's, you know that the. You know, the press is gonna find her, try to get her to do an interview.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, you're gonna take him back, mademoiselle. Mademoiselle, are you gonna take him back for sure?

[Emily Fleming]

Also, that was the most long winded speech. He could have kept it tight. We need to edit when we're admitting to cheating.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So the Norwegian biathlon athlete Sterla Holm, who we just heard given his sorry. Sturlahome le ride. Excuse me, Le gride. He's a biathlete from Norway, and he had just won the bronze in the biathlon when the Norwegian reporter at the finish line asked him how he felt to have the medal. And so we saw the video of what he said. The most important quote is, he says, half a year ago, I met the love of my life, the world's most beautiful and nicest person, half a year ago. He tried to make it sound longer than it is. Six months.

[Emily Fleming]

This is some half a year ago high School Musical Bullshit.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm saying 12 fortnights ago. 12 fortnights ago. Stop trying to make this sound long. He said, I made the mistake of my life and I cheated on her. And I told her about that a week ago. This has been the worst week of my life. So first of all, sir, like, you told her why, like, I don't understand that from cheaters. If you're telling that you cheated, you're just trying to assuage your own guil. I know some people who are married. I will give no more specifics than that. Cause you'll never find out what their gender or who they are. But I know some people who was cheating on their spouse, like, all the way up until a few months before the wedding. And they're happily married and the spouse is none the wiser. And, you know, it's like, you gotta go to the grave with that if you wanna stay with your spouse. Cause otherwise, why are you telling them? Like, well, I mean, unless you risk their sexual health or something, like, why are you telling them? Because otherwise you're just trying to clear your own conscience. Because what is this gonna do for the relationship? I know ethically that is not a lot of people are gonna agree with me, but I' From a scammer perspective.

[Emily Fleming]

From a scammer perspective, what do we

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

have to gain here?

[Emily Fleming]

Well, because it's like, well, if they find it out from someone else, it's going to be way more hurtful than.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's just life. You got to live. You want to do dirt, you need to live in fear. Live in fear every day. Every time your phone ring, every time you get a text, you get a little jolt in your spine. Take years off your life. All the stress and cortisol you build up for being a little cheater, that's what you deserve.

[Emily Fleming]

But maybe complacency makes you lose a year off your life, too. Maybe a little bit of stress is good. It keeps you. Keeps you on your toes, keeps you alive.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They've been saying stress is bad.

[Emily Fleming]

They do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They've been saying that.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't know. That's too bad. Cause I was really holding out for that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The studies were gonna change and our lives would be. All this anxiety was worth it.

[Emily Fleming]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It was actually making me healthier.

[Emily Fleming]

I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Maybe.

[Emily Fleming]

But I will say that, you know, if. If you decide to tell someone the truth about that, their reaction is, it's not.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's no longer.

[Emily Fleming]

It's none of your business. And so.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I'm not discouraging y' all cheaters out there from coming clean, I think you absolutely should let your partner know. Your partner should, like, be honest with your partner and also maybe just don't cheat on them. But if you're gonna honest with them, like you're saying, and when you have no control over their response and no amount of groveling. I was about to put begging and groveling together. Brogling greggling may get them back. Yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

No, I mean, Yeah, I feel everybody is so, you know, there's a lot of open relationships and polyamory now. And I'm like. But that's the thing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cheaters don't want an open relationship. They want to cheat for the three

[Emily Fleming]

within those though, because you set your own parameters and people will still, you know, know, break those rules too, because they want to.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ch. That's the thrill of it is not doing the right thing.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. Well, also like, yeah, it's. It's not as sexy when you're honest.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. Honesty.

[Emily Fleming]

Honesty.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's not horny. The truth.

[Emily Fleming]

No.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I gotta deceive this lady.

[Emily Fleming]

Now that is a T shirt. Honesty is not horny. Lacy Moseley, 2026.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, no, no. So Sterla, our cheater, cheater here, he won gold in the relay in the Beijing four years ago and has 14 world championship medals, including seven gold. Plus, now he's the world's number one 28 year old. Sad boy.

[Emily Fleming]

That guy is 28.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's a hard 28.

[Emily Fleming]

We gotta, we gotta get some sunscreen on this guy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oof. Okay. He cheating on his driver's license. Cause there is no way in hell. There is no way in hell.

[Emily Fleming]

That's a scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel cheated on and lied to too. You talking about you 28. Why would you lie to me like that?

[Emily Fleming]

And who is he hugging right now?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You think I'm a fool? Yeah. Who you hugging up on all hard? I thought you only had eyes for that one lady that you didn't have eyes for when you had her. Who is this lady?

[Emily Fleming]

This pretty blonde woman he's hugging?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She hugging very tightly?

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, this is the lady that he cheated with. Oh, probably.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Sterla was obviously trying to win his girl back, but it was immediately clear that this was a dumb thing to do on tv. In a post race interview a short time later, reporters asked if he regretted telling the world about his cheating. And here's the video of his response. You might need to shut your ass.

[Emily Fleming]

He better keep it tight on the side.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Loves to yap.

[Emily Fleming]

He sure does.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Legal Disclaimer]

About meeting your love of your life and.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, now he's speaking English.

[T-Mobile/US Cellular Legal Disclaimer]

Okay, how do you feel about it right now?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do you think it was the right choice or.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah,

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Really?

[Emily Fleming]

I don't know if it's the right choice or not, but it was the choice I made. We make different choices during our life and oh boy, what a nothing special sandwich make life basically.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay.

[Emily Fleming]

I made the choice to tell the world what I did. So maybe, maybe there's a chance that she will show C. Okay, now whose

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

nothing answers better Starla saying, in life you make choices and there's choices in life where the choices are made. Or Julia Simone saying, I don't remember that credit card fraud. I do not remember typing in none of that money digits.

[Emily Fleming]

I like hers because it was short and succinct. I know. Like it's not this long winded mess that he's doing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's true.

[Emily Fleming]

I just think that I appreciate hers because it didn't waste my time.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's true.

[Emily Fleming]

Like he like also good head of hair on him. That's, that's why he's so cocky. He's like, my hairline's not going anywhere.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Good head of hair. He just wins Olympic championships. And speaking of long winded Emily, later he added.

[Emily Fleming]

I thought you were gonna look at me. No, she's a long winded.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh my God. No, no, we love your wins. The perfect amount of wins.

[Emily Fleming]

Okay, good.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So later added, this is Thurla. He added that he thought it was a smart thing to do and that he is a member of mensa, the oldest high IQ society in the world. But maybe he was wrong. So if you really were like high iq, you would realize that there's different types of intelligence. And emotional intelligence is clearly not one of yours, boy. Because now you gonna say you in Mensa and this is supposed to be like, no, I'm in mensa. So that means I should publicly peer pressure the woman that I deceive.

[Emily Fleming]

You get to cheat on people cuz you're.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, also I'm too smart to keep my penis to myself. What are we saying here? I'm too smart to keep my penis

[Emily Fleming]

to myself, but also like IQ tests. You want to talk about a scam, right? That's bs.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

A lot of them are racially biased. Like let's be for real.

[Emily Fleming]

Also the acts. Fuck you acts. I didn't do good on those.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

As there's specific grievance of the acts.

[Emily Fleming]

My guidance counselor told me not to even bother with the sats.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why? I feel like you're more of a humanities like SATs person.

[Emily Fleming]

Well, I think there's more science in the SATs.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

There's more science in math than the ACTs.

[Emily Fleming]

What?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Your guys counsel lied to you.

[Emily Fleming]

They scammed me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They scammed you?

[Emily Fleming]

Oh no.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, she said you were. Let's fight her.

[Emily Fleming]

I took the ACTS three times and the score got worse each time. Do you know how long those tests are? It's like five hours. They're long. They're long. That is something. Sometimes I think about if reincarnation is real. I hope it's not, because I don't want to take the actual.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, by that time, we probably won't have them. Education is really not gonna be America's thing for much longer. You know, books, Americans, I don't think

[Emily Fleming]

those were good anyway. I think sometimes there's things that should be removed and those should be removed.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Personally, I think they're worthy for certain skill sets that you're going into college for. But for others, it's like, if I'm going in for humanities, I'm going in to get my sociology.

[Emily Fleming]

Why am I taking this? I went for theater in a small school in Arkansas.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What am I doing taking this test? I needed an audition. That was it. Let me get up here and hoot and holler and. And then go home. You let me know if you want me to hoot and holler for four years at your STEAM program to go

[Emily Fleming]

to a school with 500 total students in a dry county in Arkansas. I was fine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Let me go to the School of Dramatic Tricks.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, yeah. Trust me, that's where I need to be at.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Sterla didn't identify the woman that he cheated on? He said, I do not wanna say who it is. She's had enough to deal with.

[Emily Fleming]

Cool.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Thanks, buddy. But I hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnel for us both and that she can continue to love me. Boy, boy, boy.

[Emily Fleming]

Six months. You known this person?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Still talk about some kids. She continue to lip, sir.

[Emily Fleming]

But also cheating it six months in, that's still the honeymoon phase. If he's gonna cheat on you in six months, what's happened in six years?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What happens when I deform my body to push out your mensa spawn? What happens then? Well, you telling me you couldn't hold it in for six months and I'm supposed to be with you forever? He also cheated on her three months in, actually. Yeah, we know. We know.

[Emily Fleming]

That's when the best sex is happening, Jess.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Three months in. Yeah. Three months.

[Emily Fleming]

That's the best sex.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You cheating three months in. And that's the sex. That's the sex where you're doing it on uncomfortable surfaces. Yeah, that's why you're like, let's get on the table.

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And you don't.

[Emily Fleming]

You don't care about, like, if you're on your period or not. You don't care.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, see, I thought that comes later. I thought that the three months is. That's when you're getting waxes.

[Emily Fleming]

Maybe that's not. That's why I don't make it past three months a lot. Maybe that's what that is. But I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's.

[Emily Fleming]

That's.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's when you still go being like, let me go freshen up. Which I never knew what that meant in movies as a kid. I was like, why are these women going to freshen up? And then I became an adult. I was like, oh, they've been out all day and they're going to freshen up. Yeah, that's when you're freshening up. In three months. Three months, you still might wear your makeup to bed, you know? Three months, like, I don't know. You don't gotta bond it on. You letting the hair be out, you waking up like Rapunzel, you know that's true.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah. That's when he's still getting you a glass of water.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. And a hot towel.

[Emily Fleming]

And a hot towel. Oh, a hot towel. Who are you dating? I need to level up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Not only that, class.

[Emily Fleming]

Usually it's like a. A washcloth that's been under the bed.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I want to feel like I'm about to start a Japanese meal. Okay. Better be a hot towel. Okay.

[Emily Fleming]

That's very nice. Okay. New standard. Unlocked.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes, unlocked. You tell them all you gotta do is turn the sink to hot.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, you do.

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

For maybe like 20 seconds.

[Emily Fleming]

But what does the sink look like? Lot of little white splatters.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, at that point, the house should still be clean. The house, everyone's house should be clean, man.

[Emily Fleming]

See, where are you finding these people? I've never been in a man's house that was clean.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't really go to man's houses, now that I think about it.

[Emily Fleming]

I haven't been to one in a long time.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I haven't been to one in a long time either.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, it's been a good life that

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

he shared with a woman.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I'm a hotel girl now.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

See also that three months in you. You at the hotel. Yes. You know what I'm saying? You're getting valet, you're getting room service. Okay. Yes. Yeah, y', all, are you still interconnecting your fingers afterwards, having some interdigitation and then talking about your life and your passions? Yeah.

[Emily Fleming]

Let me freshen up at the La Quinta.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right?

[Emily Fleming]

At the Red Roof Inn.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You need to fresh it up at the La Quinta. Okay.

[Emily Fleming]

Did you have Red Roof Inns in Texas?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I've heard of a Red Roof. I've seen. I've driven past that.

[Emily Fleming]

That's kind of where the hookup place was in Nashville. Like people would go to the cheap red roof in.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Is that like after prom?

[Emily Fleming]

Well, I wasn't allowed to do that. I was. I was a good girl until college.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I had to come home too after prom. And I went on. I went with a boy. My parents.

[Emily Fleming]

Yes, I went. Well, I went with a nice Catholic boy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, he opened all the doors. He was very.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh yes. Very, very much that. So no. Then college. I was like, here we go. Get me the Red Roof Inn.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Not get me to the Red Roof Inn. Oh no chap. So it's not looking good right now for Sterla in an interview with Norwegian news outlet.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh yeah, what were we talking about?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Sterling. His cheating ass. We talking about his three cheating. Three months. Three months in while the washcloth still hot and he cheat. And Sterling, you need to stop talking like God damn.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, too much.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's not looking good right now. An interview with Norwegian news outlet the VG happened the next day. Stirla's ex. They found Stirler's ex quickly. You did say they were going to find her.

[Emily Fleming]

They were going to find her.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And Stirl, his ex says his infidelity was hard to forgive. Even after a declaration of love in front of the entire world.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh Lord.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Damn. She said, I did not choose to be put in this position and it hurts to have to be in it. We have had contact and he was aware of my opinion on this. I'm grateful to my family and friends who have embraced me and supported me during this time. Also to everyone else who has thought of me and sympathized without knowing who I am. She wants to remain anonymous. She's.

[Emily Fleming]

That's whoever like, you know, he should take a note from her and learn how to edit your speech. That's a perfect eloquent. Nice. But also think about her family. Like if he did that and then you go back to that family's never gonna trust that man.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, you can come in for Thanksgiving. Put your skis next to the door. Put your skis next to the floor with your rifle and shit and everybody gonna welcome you and get you some turkey and some gravy.

[Emily Fleming]

Bitch. No. You gonna keep your dick in your pants enough to say grace. Yeah. No, that's.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, absolutely not. How embarrassing for you, Sterla. How embarrassing. And she's still a class act. Cuz she could have come out here and started making tik toks. Honestly, I would have made some dances I would have did something like, what do you want you back. Okay. By this time, I would have been selling, I don't know what, soap. Something like wash that loser off of you with my new soap ster. Like, you know, I would have. I would have capitalized. So she's a class act.

[Emily Fleming]

She needs to be the new bachelorette.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She does. And I bet you she's a baddie. I know she's a baddie because he gives me the energy of somebody who would fumble a baddie.

[Emily Fleming]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She was probably a real pretty woman. Probably cooking all the Norwegian finest dishes of jelly luten, Jelly luton.

[Emily Fleming]

What the hell is that?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't know. They be eating gelatin over there and potatoes and. Yeah, no, I mean, she probably was making the best meat. Meat stock, strudel, McFarland, McMeats, McMeat. You lost a real win.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, man. No. Yeah. The thing for me is the six months thing. Like, what are you children? Like, what are we. This is like, this is too much for six months.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

28, so. And he's winning all the time and shooting and winning.

[Emily Fleming]

And, you know, 28 is a little too old to be acting like this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He is. But the Olympics really took it to the next level. If you were gonna get her, if you had a chance of getting her back, you definitely don't now. You embarrass her in front of everybody. What if she didn't even tell her family that you had cheated?

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What if she. First of all, you only gave her a week to alert the troops, so she probably spent that week, like, listening to Sza crying, eating her gelatin, you know, and watching Bridgerton and shit. And then next thing she know, everybody in her whole friend group know that she got treated dirty.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, that's. That sucks. I don't. And I think that, like, no girl's gonna want to date him ever again.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, please. The bar is in hell.

[Emily Fleming]

Do you think so?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, the bar is in.

[Emily Fleming]

I keep forgetting about that. Yeah, Every once in a while I, like, forget that I've got no one. But I.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Same, same.

[Emily Fleming]

But I mean, heated rivalry was my boyfriend for a while.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, it was mine too.

[Emily Fleming]

That's the only boyfriend I needed. And now it's Knights of the. Or Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, okay, maybe I'll get back into that. But heated rivalry was my boyfriend. I watched it a couple times because, like, the first time I was just like, there's so many sex scenes. And I was like, is this gratuitous? And then the second time I Watched it again. I realized that each other scene, each sex scene is different and tells something different about how their relationship is evolving. And I was like, oh, cinema. And also beyond the sex scenes. It's like them as people and the

[Emily Fleming]

things, but also the sex scenes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But also. Yeah, those two.

[Emily Fleming]

It's really. It's really beautiful. I have a whole clip thing. I have a folder in my Instagram of, like, clips from the show. And it's a lot of hair touching. It's like a lot of, like, holding

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

the hand touching for me. Well, then the hand was beautiful.

[Emily Fleming]

The heads on the chest and the kissing of the foreheads, just beautiful. It's great. That's all I need. I don't need anything else. I'm fine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Honestly. I've been.

[Emily Fleming]

I built a bed in my apartment by myself.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, okay. See, I got a peak power drill with baddies.

[Emily Fleming]

Ooh, I need a power drill.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Love my power drill.

[Emily Fleming]

Ooh, you'll have to give me some deets about that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I mean, it's just a Black and Decker. Black and Decker sponsor pink.

[Emily Fleming]

Ooh, I want it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I want it.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, you got a code for me?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, I'm asking right now. I'm like, sponsor the show Black and Decker. Yeah, please do Free with ads.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, go. Go on this show and then Free with ads.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And then listen to Free with ads.

[Emily Fleming]

Honestly. Honestly, that would be the first sponsor we get. We're so filthy on my show that no sponsor will touch us.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, no, there's someone out there. There's a lid for every pot. Thinking of a lid for every pot that puts a lid on this episode.

[Emily Fleming]

I'm so sad it's over.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I know. It's such a good time.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, so we always ask at the end of this podcast, emily, where would you like to be found?

[Emily Fleming]

Underneath the guys from Heated Rivalry. No, I'm kidding. You can check me out on Instagram. The handle is mfleemily. So it's E, M, F L E M, I, L. Yes. And you can check out my Etsy store, Flemgems.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. Where I make my little earrings. Yay.

[Emily Fleming]

And you can re gift them if you don't like them too. I won't be offended. And I love red. Good. Yeah. You wear a lot of red. I saw on your Instagram. This is like, maybe I'm psychotic. I stalk you guys and. Yeah. And you can watch Meals of history on Mythical Kitchen. I'm really proud of that show. And chef Josh here, he's a really great guy. And keep an eye out because I might be starting my own YouTube show soon.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay.

[Emily Fleming]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to learn to be consistent.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

More to come. Listen.

[Emily Fleming]

More to come.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Adhd. Beat my ass with that.

[Emily Fleming]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Congregation, tickets are on sale right now for the Scam Goddess live show tour. March 26th. I will be at Chicago House of Blues. Please get those tickets before they are gone. Because at the time that I'm recording this, yeah, we were getting close, babes and I. This is live Nation. I do not have access to these tick. Don't call me if you don't get them, but please pull up and slide. Irving. I will be there on April 8th. Please don't disappoint me. Dallas, y' all need to buy those tickets. Kyle, aunties and your grandma's to get out here. You don't play with me. New York City, Grand Mercy. I'm coming out there on the 18th. San Francisco Cobs. I'll be there April 30th. And you know we're gonna go all the way up a cops like we always do. We're going up for all of these shows. So get your Tickets now on Ticketmaster.com Goddess pull up to these shows. We're about to have a good ass time and we already know the topic now. And it's definitely, definitely gonna be a wild night. You can get my book Scam Goddess. Everywhere books are sold. You can watch the television show scam got us on Hulu. You can watch going Dutch now on Fox 9 30s on Thursdays and get to our TikTok scam got his pod on TikTok podcast. I will be posting clips from the show. Also be posting clips from me. Just talking about scams that I want to talk to where I don't have to worry about getting sued. Yes. And you can follow me at D I V A L A C I. You can follow the show and see all of the photos and this groblin ass Sterling man at Scam Goddess pod on Instagram and congregation, I really want y' all to get out there and stay. Congregation, I want you to get out there and I want you to stay skiing. I want you to stay shooting. I don't know, stay cheat. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming with Verbocare. Help is always ready before, during, and after your stay.

[Emily Fleming]

We've planned for the plot twist so

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

support is always available because a great trip starts with peace of mind.

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