Con-Fessions: Business Bamboozles

Summary

Scam Goddess – "Con-Fessions: Business Bamboozles"

Date: June 11, 2020
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Priscilla Davies
Theme: Work & Business Scams – Listener Letters and Laughs

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Episode Overview

In this lively and hilarious episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley is joined by comedian Priscilla Davies for a special Stitcher Premium session. The pair dig into wild scams in the world of work and business—sharing listener letters about everything from legal trust account heists to fake job recruitment ploys. They break down the mechanics, humor, and audacity of these scams, riff with trademark wit, and encourage listeners to “stay schemin’”—but on the right side of the law.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lawyer Trust Account Scam

[02:57 – 11:45]

• Listener Letter ("Cassius") describes a scam targeting lawyers.
• How it works:
  • A "client" contacts a lawyer claiming a six-figure debt is owed to them, offering authentic-looking emails as proof.
  • The client offers to pay by the hour and wires a retainer to the firm's trust account.
  • Soon after, they claim an emergency and ask for the money to be wired back.
  • The original transfer eventually bounces, causing losses to the firm (one lost $25,000).
• Laci & Priscilla’s Analysis:
  • This scam exploits legal trust account rules—lawyers have to be careful with others’ money, which scammers weaponize.
  • Priscilla quips, “The law is a notorious scam.” ([02:34])
  • They humorously speculate on the scammer's background (“Is this a paralegal gone rogue?” – Laci, [07:29])
  • Both marvel at how a profession built on skepticism got conned.
• Notable quote:
  • “Money can buy you a law degree, but it can't buy you common sense.” (Cassius/Read by Laci, [06:28])

2. Corporate Invoice Scam

[11:45 – 16:31]

• Listener Letter ("Todd"):
  • A company paid a $1,000/month “consultancy retainer” for three years—totaling $156,000—to a scammer using fake internal emails.
  • The invoice looked official, with details blacked out “for confidentiality” and always forwarded as if from the CFO.
  • Scam only discovered during a finance system change.
• Discussion:
  • Both hosts suspect an inside job, or at least someone familiar with the company’s formatting and culture.
  • Laci: “If you know the company's internal formatting and all this information, you have to be...someone who works there.” ([13:45])
  • Priscilla Christens the scammer “Mary,” declaring: “Mary impersonated the company to their damn selves.” ([14:54])
  • The audacity and scale impress the hosts—a favorite con of the episode.
• Quote:
  • “That's some bad bitch shit. I definitely think Mary’s a bad bitch.” (Priscilla, [16:31])

3. Craigslist Job Interview / Check Fraud Scam

[16:31 – 31:47]

• Listener Letter ("Chandra"):
  • During the pandemic, Chandra applied for a graphic design gig she found on Craigslist and did considerable due diligence—the company checked out online.
  • The “recruiter” communicated via Gmail address, wanted to conduct the interview over Gchat, and refused video calls.
  • Interview questions were odd: “What does company privacy mean to you?”
  • The scammer offered to send Chandra a check to buy equipment through their “approved” vendors—classic check fraud.
  • She caught on and reported the scam to Craigslist, the feds, and notified the real people whose identities were being stolen.
• Host Commentary:
  • Laci and Priscilla poke fun at the absurdities (interviews over AOL/Reddit/Hotmail; murder or minimum wage as typical Craigslist outcomes).
  • Discuss rationalization when desperate for work, the rise of scam sophistication, and American “gucci-belt” capitalism.
  • Praise Chandra’s investigative spirit—she even contacted the real LinkedIn employees being impersonated, and intentionally “Karen’d” the scammers by reporting them.
• Quotes:
  • “Craigslist is just being very honest now. You may get murdered or you may get a vintage oak dresser. You may get murdered or you may get a part time job. The choice is yours.” (Laci, [18:26])
  • “If there's any time to allow scammers to waste your time, it’s during a pandemic, and I’m with it.” (Laci, [25:14])
  • “You're not a true Karen if you ain't got no spike in your hair.” (Laci, [28:21])
  • “Chandra, your scam eye is very strong. And you're also extremely petty. And I stan you.” (Laci, [32:06])

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On law as a scam:
  • “The law is a notorious scam.” – Priscilla ([02:34])
• Credulity in law practice:
  • “Money can buy you a law degree, but it can't buy you common sense.” – Laci reading Cassius ([06:28])
• Inside job suspicion:
  • “If you know the company's internal formatting...you have to be like, it has to be someone who works there.” – Laci ([13:45])
• Craigslist satire:
  • “Craigslist is just being very honest...You may get murdered or you may get a vintage oak dresser.” – Laci ([18:26])
• Red flags in job interviews:
  • “How you gonna be like, so call us anytime for this interview?...Your interviewer isn’t supposed to be like, you up? You trying to do an interview right now?” – Laci ([21:42])
• Petty for good:
  • “You’re not a true Karen if you ain’t got no spike in your hair.” – Laci ([28:21])
  • “Chandra, your scam eye is very strong. And you’re also extremely petty. And I stan you.” – Laci ([32:06])

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Memorable Moments & Comic Highlights

• Recurring riff about briefcases being a sign of “real” professionals (and missed opportunities for intimidation) ([05:04], [06:39], [26:59]).
• Laci and Priscilla joking about setting up a “legal Etsy” or a scam convention—“Scam Synergy. Six Sigma of scams!” ([10:30], [20:00])
• “Is this a law company or a legal business?”—the duo playing with their ignorance as a bit ([10:19])
• Playful banter about being on “team scammer” when the scam targets big corporations or shady lawyers ([11:33], [15:37])

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Important Timestamps

• 00:02 – Introduction, episode theme, personal scam history
• 02:57 – 11:45 – Lawyer trust fund scam breakdown
• 11:45 – 16:31 – Corporate invoice scam analysis
• 16:31 – 31:47 – Craigslist recruiter / job scam story
• 31:47 – end – Closeout, call for scam stories, social handles, light banter

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode keeps Scam Goddess’ signature vibrant, conspiratorial, and unapologetically “for the people” tone. Laci and Priscilla double down on humor, relatability, and side jokes about scam culture and late-stage capitalism. The ultimate takeaway is equal parts warning and wink—scams are everywhere, some are wild, some are dumb, and sometimes the scammers are audacious enough to win (especially against the powerful).

Listeners are reminded:

• Always scrutinize offers that seem too good to be true.
• Internal checks in corporations aren’t always tight.
• Stay vigilant—and keep your "scam eye" sharp.

"Stay schemin', congregation!"

Transcript

[A]

What's poppin? Exclusive Stitcher Premium congregation. Thank you guys so much for tuning into our show and donating a coin. Honey, we do appreciate you. This is Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and I am so excited to host the Stitcher Premium experience with one of my very good friends, hilarious comedian Priscilla Davies. You will be hearing her voice on all of these episodes and all of her wild ass. Opin. This Citra Premium content is going to be themed, so every episode, we're gonna be talking about a specific world of scams, and we're gonna be reading your listener letters. So tweet us if you hear your story. Priscilla, what's up?

[B]

Hey, how you doing? I'm good.

[A]

Hey, Stitcher.

[B]

Hey, guys. Hey, everybody. I'm great. I'm excited to talk about some scams.

[A]

Yes. Wait, so have you ever had, like, any scams happen to you, like, in your professional life, like your workplace?

[B]

Have I ever had any work? I mean, I'm sure I have. Any workplace scams happen to me? No. But I've definitely participated in workplace scams. I.

[A]

Acting wise, I have not so much. That's a lie. I've told you guys on the show. I've worked for several drug fronts that I. Look, I didn't realize they were drug fronts at the time. Okay. I was very young. I was, you know, 20, 19 years old. And I didn't realize you wasn't supposed to be just taking money out the cash register and writing notes. Like, Pookie came in and said he want $20. And then I write a note for Pookie. You know, that wasn't supposed to be happening, apparently. But, you know, I didn't know no better. I knew no better. You know, when you know better, you do better or you get better at doing bad. Ka, ching, ching. So today we're gonna read some of yalls letters. Some of y' all wrote in about some very interesting workplace scams. We know this is a crazy time. A lot of people, millions of Americans are out of work, and a lot of people will be returning to jobs that they were furloughed from. And unfortunately, a lot of people will be looking for new employment. So that despo meter is high, honey, because we've been locked in these house without these checks coming. So we just want to keep you guys informed. So the first scam we're going to talk about is a scam targeting lawyers, which I thought was crazy, because, you know, lawyers.

[B]

The law is a notorious scam.

[A]

That's very true, actually. And the person give Me a name for this person who wrote it in. Friscilla. Fake name.

[B]

Oh. I mean, I need to know a little bit more about their personality, their likes.

[A]

Girl, if you don't give me a fake name, I can't stand it.

[B]

Let's call them. Let's call them Cassius.

[A]

That's an old black man name. This is for sure a woman and I love it. Cassis. So Cassius says, I wanted to tell you about a scam that's been targeting the legal community. The original scammers. Let's be real. Like you said, Priscilla Cassius and you are on the same side. And one of the lawyers in my networking group got scammed by it. It starts with a seemingly potential client reaching out to a lawyer looking for representation. Usually it's someone who's trying to collect a debt or other outstanding payment. I actually received one of these emails where the guy was claiming that his employer owed him a six figure severance package that hadn't been paid out. The email came complete with corroborating documents. I received attachments that were supposedly emails from the employer apologizing for the delayed payment and promising to pay immediately. So basically, this seems like a good opportunity for a lawyer. It's like, you know, I will goddle, like if you've been hit and you know, like the cash seems like it's gonna be pretty easy to get, right? So lawyers would be tempted by this. Okay, yeah. Which makes sense because like, if you have a case that's just about getting money, like, as a lawyer, hell yeah, I would take that shit. Once the lawyer starts seeing dollar signs dancing in front of him with this supposed slam dunk case, the scammer then asks if they can pay by the hour, which is music to every lawyer's ears. A client who wants to pay by the hour. So you gotta know when shit is too good to be true. Whenever people just be offering you money.

[B]

Pay attention.

[A]

Now. I told you there have been some times where people offered me money and I was like this probably a scam. But I went and I got the money. So you know, hey, I needed it. So it seems too good to be true. And that's because it is. The scammer then tells the lawyer he will wire the retainer payment to the lawyer's trust account. The payment will see wires. Whenever I hear about a wire transfer

[B]

and trust, trust and wires, all I hear is Nigerian scam. That's all I hear right there. I'm walking out. I'm walking out with my briefcase. If I'M that lawyer.

[A]

Do people carry briefcases anymore? I wish I had a job where I could carry a briefcase that just feels like I want to walk around like Annalise Keaton for no reason.

[B]

I want my briefcase to be, like, hard, too. Not that soft. Bullshit.

[A]

Like, no, no.

[B]

You know, you got to be able

[A]

to slam it on the table, let

[B]

motherfuckers know you didn't come to play.

[A]

I feel like we could get away with just that alone. Like, somebody would believe that we were. Lawyers just go everywhere. Slamming a briefcase on the table. I'm at Chipotle. Slamming a briefcase on the table. This bowl is free.

[B]

Okay,

[A]

so, well, so basically, you know, this is developing into being a scam. There's a wire transfer, and then the money goes to the trust. The payment will look like it clears, and then the client will tell the lawyer that he needs the funds for some sort of emergency, or he will terminate the representation. Not wanting to run afoul of the very strict rules regarding trust accounts, the lawyer will return the money to the client by writing a check from the trust account. Then, of course, magically, the payment will bounce, and the trust account will suddenly be out of a whole bunch of money, which puts the attorney into some real deep shit, because the money he sent probably belonged to other clients because it's a trust account. So there's, like, other people's money in there. My colleague's firm got taken for $25,000 with this scam. Just goes to show, money can buy you a law degree, but it can't buy you common sense. What a read. Oh, I'm just like, who?

[B]

See, if you carried a briefcase, you'd have more sense. That's all I gotta say.

[A]

Yeah, you know, this guy ain't carrying a briefcase. He probably got an iPad. What are you doing, bro? Get you an old fashioned briefcase.

[B]

Stop playing around with these hoes. Come on now.

[A]

Right? We gotta take it back to the 80s, okay? You need to be in a gray suit doing lots of cocaine, and you need to have a briefcase.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

You trying to be modern and shit. You don't got scammed. I mean, that's crazy, because then you're liable for that money that you. Laws.

[B]

I mean, this is so intricate, because I noticed at one point in this letter, the person says the lawyer, knowing trust rules and legal trust laws. So, like, this is a layered type. Like, so you have to know the trust laws. Like, oh, no, you can't fuck with a trust. Okay? So I have to give these people their money back. That's crazy.

[A]

I'm very interested in like who this scammer is because this is just so. I don't think this is a run of the scam. You have to have some sort of education. Is this like a paralegal gone rogue?

[B]

It probably is. You know, it be your own. It be your own, you know.

[A]

Right. But this is honestly motivating me because, you know, like school, online college and stuff, you know, like I see D.C. college, they teach you how to be a paralegal. I could go to that online school where Shaq went and start running this scam.

[B]

You can get a degree from Lil Romeo. You know, he runs that school, icdc.

[A]

He little Romeo personally gives you the degree.

[B]

It's a piece of paper that he just writes real quick on. It's been very beautiful.

[A]

He has excellent penmanship. It is handwritten.

[B]

This is kind of a legit ass scam though. Like, it's crazy. This is deep. Like you scamming the scammers. Like you really want that smoke if you're going to go scam a lawyer. Right?

[A]

Because that just doesn't seem like the first. Like lawyers are supposed to be very discerning. They're supposed to be looking at every angle and wow. To get one of them so easily is just shocking. I think that this is also interesting because you had to have supporting documents that. So did he just write all these emails? He was just emailing himself. He's gotta be running the same scam and just taking the same exact paperwork, maybe changing the dates and running it on different firms.

[B]

I mean, he has to. I mean, $25,000 can only go so long.

[A]

He's gotta make more if he's getting 25k a lick. That's, that's good from just sitting at home.

[B]

Damn. I just real. I mean, honestly, when I hear this, I'm really thinking the fault lies with the lawyer. I don't blame the scammer. I'm just, I just feel like, how did you get bamboozled by that? Like, come on, dog. Like everything sounded suspect from up top. And I'm not even a lawyer, okay. I only play one on TV sometimes, so.

[A]

Right.

[B]

How. I mean, I'm trying to think it was maybe I feel like it was a shady lawyer who probably was in a tough. Having a tough time in their life, you know, and was like, like maybe

[A]

they weren't like killing it or getting as many cases or.

[B]

I mean, maybe they were a law firm though. What's that?

[A]

It had to be a nice law firm. Though, to have, like a trust. Like, do you think, like, the Abugados got a trust when they. Under abogado.

[B]

Don't disrespect the avogados, okay? I mean, you'd be surprised. I bet you, like, maybe like, having a trust is like a requirement to have a. You know, what do you call those things? Legal companies. I don't even speak this language.

[A]

Affirm.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

Legal companies. You know, when you have a legal business. If I have that law business, the

[B]

business with the law. Okay, okay, now

[A]

we got a legal Etsy. So you put the money on the Etsy and then we come do the legal for you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, we do have briefcases.

[B]

Oh, in that case, I'm signing up right now.

[A]

So I don't. I don't know. He must have been in a tough spot, though. But the firm obviously had a lot of money. If he could take out 25k like that. Does that have to be approved by anybody? I have so many questions.

[B]

I have so many questions also. Like, did he, like. Does he get, like, disrespected by the lawyers at the lawyer bar at the end of the day, you know, when they go to get their five o' clock drink, are they like, oh, here comes this nigga.

[A]

Here comes this, right? I feel like he just asked. Hey, Cassius. I got an opportunity for you. Cassius. All I need is the law firm's credit card. You down? I'm pretty sure this person had to have been terminated, right? I'm pretty sure they had to have been terminated.

[B]

I mean, unless they. Unless they. Unless they ran the firm.

[A]

I just.

[B]

I don't know. I. I'm team scammer here. I don't know if you asked that, but

[A]

I did not. Okay, but I see that.

[B]

I thought I'd volunteer that info.

[A]

Well, let's move on to another one. We got a corporate scam. Staying within the world. So I'm gonna call this person Todd.

[B]

That's nice.

[A]

I can't believe I know Todd's in real life. It feels like no one should be named Todd.

[B]

I know. Yeah. Todd Bridges. I mean, I don't know him, but I wouldn't mind knowing him. Todd, if you're out there listening to this.

[A]

Todd, if you're listening to Scam Goddess on Stitcher Premium, Todd Bridges, please contact Priscilla.

[B]

Please do.

[A]

So Todd says. Just wanted to give you a small, quick corporate scam that our AP manager said happened at his firm. Apparently when he started, there was a recurring bill for $1,000 a month. For a retainer for consultancy services from an executive recruiting firm. On the invoice, it outlined that the details were confidential and to discuss with the CEO for clarification. And it always came in as a Forward from the CFO. That is, the email said, please see CEO's approval in previous email with a ton of information blacked out for confidentiality. Since the email looked exactly like their internal formatted, they paid it every month. When they went to switch to a new processing system for payments, the invoice got sent to the CFO to approve digitally, and he asked what it was for. Turns out he had been paying it monthly for three years. And it was a fake email. Sending to pretend. Like, pretending to be an internal email. Oh, I not sure if you could get away with it now, but enjoy. I'm pretty sure you probably still could get away with it because, you know, like, a bunch of major companies in Silicon Valley were getting invoiced for years. Like, Google was getting invoiced for years by a stranger.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Because they have so much money.

[B]

Okay. It must be nice. I wish somebody would just invoice me. I mean, I wish I could afford that.

[A]

This had to have been somebody who worked. See, a lot of times I feel like these scammers are sprouting out of under, you know, like the underlings of the company. Because if you know the company's internal formatting and all this information, you have to be like, it has to be someone who works there. That's $156,000.

[B]

That's what they. That's what they got away with. Yeah.

[A]

If you're getting $1,000 a month for three years.

[B]

Oh, my God. Oh, my.

[A]

So nobody in the budget department noticed 156,000 missing? Nobody noticed 52 grand missing at the end of the year.

[B]

Well, they must have been a, you know, a fancy company. They didn't notice. They were like. Oh, they were like. I don't know what that means.

[A]

They're like, that's lunch.

[B]

Wow. So this dude basically impersonated. Or I shouldn't say dude. Person. We don't know this person impersonated.

[A]

I hope it was a woman, please.

[B]

I'm just gonna call her Mary. So Mary impersonated the company to their damn selves.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then got paid.

[A]

She's my queen. Was like, the CEO already knows, so don't ask him. Like, I also feel like anytime somebody's trying to prove to you legitimacy, then you should be alarmed. Like, everyone out there, if you're working in a company and you're getting emails and it says per my previous email, or check this form that I sent you or blah, blah, blah. If they're trying to prove to you that are legitimate and they're asking for money, you should always ask questions.

[B]

I mean, but if you like, you know, if you're a company, that's rich rich you like. I mean, no sweat off my back until $156,000 later, three years later as well.

[A]

That's true though. Fuck these corporations. Honestly, if anybody sends you an invoice and you work at Amazon or you work at Walmart, you know what? Just pay everybody. Like, absolutely, sure.

[B]

Just how much? You're just the cog in the wheel. Just share the wealth, right?

[A]

Until they start doing right by us. We're gonna pay anybody's invoice who asks.

[B]

So did this person get caught or they are living on an island in Fiji?

[A]

We don't know. These are listener letters. So I don't know the fate of any of these people. Cause I can't properly investigate. For all we know, it's a scam. Maybe they made up the whole story.

[B]

Maybe. Oh, wow, that's crazy. I think honestly this, I mean, so far this is my favorite scam out of the two that I've heard. I just. This is just like, Rich, it's great. I mean, it's like, damn, that's some bad bitch shit. I definitely think Mary's a bad bitch.

[A]

I know. I mean, I'm very much into whoever this person is. So let's keep going, guys. So we know you're out there looking for jobs. These are crazy times. We got a listener who wrote in so that she nearly got scammed by a Craigslist recruiter. I personally, it's. It's hard. Can you get jobs off Craigslist anymore?

[B]

You know what? I personally haven't in about six years. But I don't know. I mean, like Craigslist used to be that shit boy. But you know, you always have to be prepared to possibly be scammed as well and murdered.

[A]

I feel like those are the caveats of Craigslist.

[B]

It was like, look, I've almost made

[A]

it a minimum wage job or a murder or murdered.

[B]

I have literally almost been murdered from Craigslist interviews.

[A]

So I hate America. I hate it here. It's so ghetto. Like, we capitalism says, hey, you need to eat, you need to pay these bills, so you better go to this possibly murder interview to get possibly a job. Like, that's how desperate our community is. The people in this country, like we love to. I saw a tweet that was like, america is a third world country in a Gucci belt. And I said, that's it. That's the tweet. Cause it is so damn ghetto. Like when your citizens have to risk life and limb.

[B]

That's so accurate.

[A]

And we don't think about it. We're so desensitized to it. We're like, yeah, I gotta go to this alley. Cause you know a bitch gotta pay these bills at and t ain't gonna pay herself. Okay, okay, so I got mace and a knife and a whistle and maybe I'll have a joke.

[B]

I can't tell you how many. Okay, that's actually an ad for Craigslist.

[A]

Craigslist is just being very honest now. They're like, you may get murdered or you may get a vintage oak dresser. You may get murdered or you may get a part time job.

[B]

The choice is yours.

[A]

The choice is yours. You want to stay home where you not getting murdered, but you also not getting paid? I don't know.

[B]

I mean, when you have to like send three of your closest friends, like addresses and license plate numbers for a job interview, I mean,

[A]

I'll be the best.

[B]

You're right. I could get a job out of this. Nevermind.

[A]

You could get a job out of this. So you take your ass back there. Okay, so this woman says, I'm gonna call her Chandra. So Chandra says, long, timeless, oh, very nice stuff. All right, Chandra. I'm gonna move past that though. So she says. I was recently at a job searching, thanks to the Rona mm. And I came across a Craigslist ad looking for a graphic designer not far from my home. I looked up the business name, address and employees and it all looked good. Reputable company around for years. Lots of employees on LinkedIn. So I applied. So she did her due diligence. See, that's what's scary is like scammers, they're aware that people are now checking for validity. So they're not just coming out here with the fake emails like they used to.

[B]

Honey, okay? Like at the scammer convention, they were like, ladies and gentlemen, people are checking for validity. Now we gotta step up our game.

[A]

We've gotta brainstorm.

[B]

They have a convention every year.

[A]

Scam synergy. Okay? Six sigma of scams.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

They've got charts. That would be great to have a scam convention. Should I host that? I want a scam convention.

[B]

I think you should. I'll do PowerPoint.

[A]

Oh my God, yes, please do the PowerPoint.

[B]

Okay, so there may be some weird things in there, but just focus on the important stuff, right?

[A]

There's a lot of popups in this PowerPoint presentation, Ms. Davies.

[B]

It's just a business. It's just a little business I'm trying to promote. Nothing. Nothing.

[A]

Anyway, okay, this seems like more of a business promotion than for something. For the convention. You're scamming us right now. You scam with your PowerPoint. So?

[B]

So a few days scamming at the

[A]

scammer convention, that's honestly what everyone should be doing there. A few days later, I received an email from someone saying that they are a recruiter for that company and asking me to choose an interview time slot anytime between 10am and 6pm it also listed the name of the hiring manager, email address and asking me to send an interview time to her. So she says red flag number one was at the email send time was 4:00am you know, when business is happening, that's when my lawyer business is open. So it's all right with me. Red flag number two was asking for a same day interview with the entire day available. Yeah, that's facts. Like if you're interviewing lots of people, like you're supposed to have slots, how you gonna be like, so call us anytime for this interview. Anytime. Okay. Like your interviewer isn't supposed to be like, you up? You trying to do an interview right now?

[B]

Hey girl, what you doing? Hey girl, you up

[A]

with some emojis? Like, hey, you trying to do an interview right now?

[B]

When your email is wid.

[A]

It's time to go for a job interview. No, no. Red flag number three was both email addresses. The recruiter and the manager were Gmail accounts and not the company's name. But I looked up the hiring manager on LinkedIn and it all looked good. Plenty of references. So I thought maybe they grabbed a quick Gmail account so that Craigslist people don't get their work accounts. So she's. She's. The wheels are spinning, see. Cause we need jobs. So I think this point she's rational.

[B]

This is what we call rationalizing.

[A]

She's rationalizing. She's like, look, yes, I have to take a knife and pepper spray. For some reason we're meeting at 2am in an alley. But when I googled them, everything seemed legit. But you know what? Yes. I'm walking down the street right now and I just saw a woman scream and run from the exact alley that I'm going to legit. But maybe she didn't get the job and she was upset. Just like any way you can rationalize, I get it. I've been there. So we all know she confirmed her 2pm interview. And when the time came, I didn't hear anything. No email, no phone call, Nothing. Then at 2:30, I get G Chat from a hiring manager saying that the interview would take place over G Chat. This was a huge red flag for me, as I had already offered my Zoom account for a video interview, but she declined. Also, when you got to offer the the mediums for the interview,

[B]

hey, guys,

[A]

can y' all interview me on Zoom? They're like, no, no, no, no, no.

[B]

What about FaceTime? Can we do a FaceTime?

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

How about,

[A]

do you have WhatsApp? Do you have AIM? AOL instant messaging?

[B]

How about Yahoo Messenger? It's a little janky, but it works.

[A]

But it works. Do you have Hotmail? This is where we'll be conducting. You know, actually we're on a Reddit account. If you could just comment under our comment, we will conduct the interview there.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Shady. So she declined. Okay, so she asked for the Zoom interview and the recruiter declined. Next was questions I asked. So they asked her these questions. Do you have a home office? Number one. Okay, tell me what company privacy means to you. What?

[B]

And that's when I would have closed my computer, right?

[A]

What does company privacy mean? Mean to you?

[B]

Let me just say this much.

[A]

Is this like a beauty pageant? What kind of question is this?

[B]

Things I've learned in life, the first three ingredients in anything are the most important. So if that was the second question they asked you, flags up.

[A]

I love Chandra, though, because she was smart. She peeped the game. I understand why she went full, like, this long throughout the scam. Because we. Look, I've needed a job and I definitely would have been like, so weird. But, you know, coins, I would have kept looking.

[B]

So, I mean, in a desperate state, I would definitely have scrolled on to the next question.

[A]

We are in a pandemic. So if there's any time to allow scammers to waste your time, it's during a pandemic, and I'm with it. So she copy pasted number three. She copy pasted the job description from Craigslist and the company website, mission and vision into the chat and asked me if I was extending, experienced, and interested in the position. So, sis, you don't got no interview questions. She was like, damn, she really want to do this interview. What does company privacy mean to you?

[B]

We like long walks on the beach.

[A]

Yeah, you like, why are you cursing into the G chat? Oh, oops. You can see that. Would you rather

[B]

Mary kill her?

[A]

Never. Have you ever.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. She playing drinking games, right?

[A]

Like, what kind of interviews are these? Oh, my God, you sound like Trump. Trump just be up here saying anything. I don't know if he ever actually said this, but it was the funniest thing I ever saw on Twitter. It was like, people are dying who never died before. And I was like, that is a fact, Trump. That's the first true thing you've ever said. People are dying. That never died before.

[B]

Just spit water everywhere. Great, my computer's broken. Continue.

[A]

Okay, so she asked these terrible questions. Then she began to rattle off all the equipment they would be sending me. MacBook, printer, scanner, all this random stuff. And telling me how they would send me a check to deposit and purchase all the stuff from their approved vendor. There it is. There's the scam. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

[B]

Bitch, go get your briefcase.

[A]

And go get your briefcase, Chandra. So Chandra basically says, this is when I realized it was a check fraud scam. We've talked about check fraud scams so much. If you're just starting to hear about us talking about check fraud scams, I'll quickly summarize it. It's basically where someone writes a hot check. You deposit it, then you go spend said money, but there's actually no money in the check. So basically, she realizes that this was a check fraud scam. Clearly, it was gonna. They were gonna give her a bad check and then have you deposit it, spend from it. But as soon as the bank discovers that it's fraudulent, the money that you have spent is now your own. And you have nothing except for the person's fake email address. So they were about to get her, but I'm glad that she discovered this. Good on you, Chandra. Get your briefcase and go. She said, clearly, I would not have gone along with this scammer. I am not the man, the feds or a corporation. I'm just trying to find a new job. Not cool. So I decided to be a Karen. Hey, look, Karen's are normally bad, but it's okay to call the manager on a scammer. I personally wouldn't do it, but I don't want to see people in these desperate times getting scammed when they're just trying to get employment. So, sis, put on that blonde wig. Sweep those bangs to the side, okay?

[B]

That shit's spiky.

[A]

It better be. You better have gorilla glue in It Okay, Not a true Karen if you ain't got no spike in your hair, okay? It's a must. And she called the feds on these people. She reported them to Craigslist. She reported them to the feds. And then she also reached out to the people on LinkedIn who they were masquerading as, and told them that people were out here putting. Putting dirt on a neck.

[B]

Oh, hold up. Rewind. Oh, yes. Cuz she. She did it. Damn. So they stole somebody's identity.

[A]

Yes. Off. Off LinkedIn. So they pretended to be real, legitimate people who are on LinkedIn who are recruiters, and then they made up fake email addresses that resembled those people's names. And that's how they had cuz see, they were thinking, you gotta check. I know. I'm Loki proud of them.

[B]

However,

[A]

and it makes sense why they didn't want to do a zoom. I do need a right to hell Shaka. It makes a lot of sense, though, because the people didn't want to do a zoom chat or anything on FaceTime because if you saw their face, you would realize they don't match the LinkedIn picture. That's when you got to just do a zoom. Believe your video off big.

[B]

That also, if they. If they actually did a video chat, it would just be a guy with a big scar across his face and an eye patch in an alleyway.

[A]

I wonder if we're just under construction, right? I wonder if they're like, what was I about to say? I wonder if they're even American or if they like, if their English is good. Because the woman who was doing the gchat just copy pasted the mission statement from the website. Seemed like she couldn't really ask a lot of questions.

[B]

Wait, you wonder if.

[A]

What, like, because, you know, sometimes these will be like foreign countries or foreigners who are running these scams. Like, I wonder if they were good with English because she legit copy pasted the ad from Craigslist into the Gchat interview. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It was a four. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Because it's like when you get those like at or not at and T, but like you're from your company or whatever that tells you that. Like, we just purchased something, but it's not in. It's like broken English. You're like, this don't seem accurate, but I should just click on this link anyway to be safe.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. Well, Chandra, I'm so glad that you didn't end up falling for this scam. You did a lot of research into it. I think you might be a scammer yourself, Chandra, because you seemed very intrigued by this.

[B]

Too intrigued, I feel like. I appreciate Chandra's dedication. I appreciate. You know, because you know what? When you're in those tough times, it's like just for the sake of your mind being at rest, because she didn't want to be up at night. Like, damn, what if I had just.

[A]

But Chandra was panic at the end of this. She said she got back on Gchat and asked if they wanted to do a FaceTime interview or continue the interview. And of course, the scammer said no. Then she said, well, I'll continue the interview if you just send me your brick and mortar address. And of course, because she said she wanted to send a handwritten thank you letter.

[B]

Chandra, shake her.

[A]

Damn petty Chandra.

[B]

Looks like I have a wire. I'm working for the FBI now.

[A]

She's fully, like, wearing a wire. Now there's people in a van outside of her apartment like, Chandra, I love it. I love how deep you dove. She says, thanks for keeping my scam eyes strong in all caps. Which girl? Your scam eye is very strong. And you're also extremely petty. And I stan you. All right, guys.

[B]

Well, that was fun.

[A]

If you want to find us, as always, that was a lot of fun. Scamgoddesspodmail.com if you want to email us one of your scams to potentially have it read on the show. And you can find me at D I V A L A C I D valacy on all platforms. And you can find us at scamgodess on all platforms. And you can find Priscilla at

[B]

Priscilla Davies, actor on ij. I'm gonna work on that.

[A]

Maybe. All right, congregation, stay scheming.