Fraud Friday: Australia’s Cop Con Artist w/ AJ Gibson & Emile Ennis Jr.

Summary

Fraud Friday: Australia’s Cop Con Artist with AJ Gibson & Emil Ennis Jr.

Podcast Information:

• Title: Scam Goddess
• Host: Laci Mosley (aka Scam Goddess)
• Guests: AJ Gibson & Emil Ennis Jr.
• Episode: Fraud Friday: Australia’s Cop Con Artist
• Release Date: June 13, 2025

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Introduction

In this riveting episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley dives deep into the intriguing world of fraud with special guests AJ Gibson and Emil Ennis Jr., co-hosts of the podcast Confess Your Mess. Together, they explore the sensational case of Jody Harris, Australia's notorious "Con Queen," while sharing their own personal experiences with scams and fraud.

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Personal Experiences with Scams

AJ Gibson’s Troubling Romance (07:23 - 09:00)

AJ opens up about a tumultuous relationship where he fell for a seemingly successful and attractive man. He describes red flags such as his partner’s suspicious behavior around roommates and the overly luxurious yet unverified setup of his apartment.

AJ Gibson (07:54): “He was avoiding maintenance because all his furniture didn’t belong to him, stolen from the complex.”

Emil Ennis Jr.’s Insight (08:30 - 09:00)

Emil echoes AJ’s sentiments, sharing how he too was deceived by someone who appeared trustworthy but was involved in fraudulent activities.

Emil Ennis Jr. (09:00): “Every now and then, he’d have details about his life that didn't add up.”

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Historic Hoodwinks: The Jody Harris Case (36:55 - 68:38)

Early Beginnings and Confidence (36:55 - 37:08)

Jody Harris started her criminal career by befriending police officers in Queensland. Her confidence and ability to convincingly impersonate various professionals allowed her to gain trust effortlessly.

Lacie Mosley (36:55): “If you do things confidently, people don't have any reason to question you.”

Signature Scams and Identity Theft (36:10 - 38:07)

Jody’s hallmark was her ability to impersonate police officers and other professionals, granting her access to confidential information and enabling large-scale identity theft.

Lacie Mosley (36:55): “She posed as doctors, psychologists, business managers, and even claimed ties to the mafia to execute her scams.”

Major Fraud Schemes (41:52 - 50:10)

Jody conducted elaborate scams, including:

• Hospital Fraud: Posed as a nurse to steal personal details and access bank accounts, resulting in significant financial losses for victims.

  Emil Ennis Jr. (46:20): “She really stole the identity. Like, you hear about a little credit card scam, she was like, no, I am you now.”

• Flight Attendant Deception: Impersonated a Virgin Airlines hostess to gain access to flight attendants' personal information and steal substantial amounts.

  AJ Gibson (54:09): “She could flirt with someone in a row and steal their information.”

Capture and Arrest (60:14 - 68:38)

Jody’s criminal spree was eventually halted through a combination of her own taunting and the cooperative efforts of Detective Andrew Twinning. Her elaborate live-updates and staged scenarios led authorities to set a trap, culminating in her arrest.

Lacie Mosley (60:37): “It's like a scenario from the Leonardo DiCaprio film Catch Me If You Can.”

Sentencing and Aftermath (68:38 - 74:07)

Jody faced multiple charges across different jurisdictions, resulting in several years of imprisonment. Despite her conviction, her charisma and manipulation skills left a lasting impression on both victims and law enforcement.

Emil Ennis Jr. (68:32): “She's getting out at 30. That's a two-year bid for like 10 years of living lavish, stealing from everybody.”

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Secondary Scam Highlight: Jason Harrington’s Art Fraud (63:26 - 74:00)

Overview of the Scam (63:26 - 65:17)

Jason Harrington orchestrated an art fraud scheme, selling forgeries of Richard Hamilton’s works by creating fake provenance documents and photoshopped images to legitimize the counterfeit art.

Emil Ennis Jr. (71:24): “He wrote fake letters and was like, ‘My cousin Johnny met Hamilton.’”

Mechanics of the Fraud (65:17 - 72:05)

Harrington’s elaborate stories convinced buyers of the authenticity of his forgeries, leading to substantial financial gains.

AJ Gibson (73:19): “If it looked real, and art has a lot of money laundering in art, there's a lot of scamming in art.”

Comparative Insights (72:05 - 73:18)

The hosts compare Harrington’s fraud to popular culture references, highlighting the audacity and creativity required to pull off such scams.

AJ Gibson (73:18): “It's all made up. That's why you gotta love yourself. You put the value in yourself.”

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• AJ Gibson (07:54): “He was avoiding maintenance because all his furniture didn’t belong to him, stolen from the complex.”
• Emil Ennis Jr. (09:00): “Every now and then, he’d have details about his life that didn't add up.”
• Lacie Mosley (36:55): “If you do things confidently, people don't have any reason to question you.”
• Emil Ennis Jr. (46:20): “She really stole the identity. Like, you hear about a little credit card scam, she was like, no, I am you now.”
• Lacie Mosley (60:37): “It's like a scenario from the Leonardo DiCaprio film Catch Me If You Can.”
• AJ Gibson (73:18): “It's all made up. That's why you gotta love yourself. You put the value in yourself.”

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Insights and Conclusions

This episode underscores the sophisticated methods fraudsters like Jody Harris employ to deceive and manipulate their victims. Confidence, adaptability, and elaborate storytelling are key traits that enable successful scams. The guests emphasize the importance of vigilance and skepticism in personal relationships and business dealings to mitigate the risk of falling prey to such fraudulent schemes.

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Final Remarks and Plugs

As the episode wraps up, Laci and her guests promote their respective podcasts and social media channels, encouraging listeners to stay informed and connected.

• AJ Gibson: Promotes "Confess Your Mess" and his Amazon Live presence.
• Emil Ennis Jr.: Advocates for his book "Flipping the Script" and his radio show "The Morning Beat" on Channel Q Radio.

Emil Ennis Jr.: “If you want to listen to more like this, start with Laci's episode. Start with Laci's episode.”

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Conclusion

Scam Goddess delivers an engaging and comprehensive exploration of high-profile fraud cases, enriched by personal anecdotes and expert insights from guests AJ Gibson and Emil Ennis Jr. By unraveling the complex tactics of Jody Harris and Jason Harrington, the podcast provides listeners with a deeper understanding of the world of con artistry and the importance of safeguarding oneself against deceit.

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Stay scheming and stay informed with Scam Goddess!

Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Y' all know how Amazon was just previously used to, you know, go on and get something very specific, like you want some earrings that look like Michelle Obama or something like just very specific that you can't buy in a store. Well, now, Amazon is a great place to get all your essentials. You can get your toiletries, you can have them scheduled to deliver your toiletries, which I do because I be running out of toilet paper and that's very embarrassing. Like, to be on the toilet and you don't have no paper. Like, that's. That's very sad and embarrassing. Can't believe I told y' all that. But next time you run out of coffee or realize you out of light bulbs, don't be in the dark. Amazon has you covered. Save every day with deals from Amazon. What's poppin Congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the Paywall. Enjoy this epis episode from behind the Paywall. And as always, stay scheming. Robbery and Fraud. What's Poppin Congregation? It's your girl, Scam Goddess, AKA Lacy Mosley. Back with another installment of Scammer God is. And guys. And what? Yes, Excited and very much. I know. I'll be like, very, very, very, very like that. I have the. The words lost meaning. I understand. But as you know, this is a podcast dedicated to fried scams, all those who practice it. And today I have some friends on, like, these are the homies. They're hosts. They're super talented. One of them I met when I first moved to la, like six years ago. Hustling, wait at tables, scamming as much as we could in the restaura. Guys, we have a meal and it's Junior. I want to say your full name, Emil. But both of these two guys, not only are they my friends, but they are on Fiance. I don't know if I said that correct. And they do this on Fion they are engaged. They have their own podcast called Confess your Mess, which is visual and also you can listen to it wherever you get your podcast, which is very nice that you can see them, because they are both very fine. Guys, I have a meal. We have aj who you might know from his book flipping the script, okay? He went on a whole book tour. It's on Amazon. He does Wendy Williams, and he's the co host of Confess yous Mess. They both be doing William Wendy Williams. This is a long credit intro. Wow. Okay, let's get into it.

[AJ Gibson]

Listen, hype us up, sis. Hype us up.

[Junior]

Keep going, keep going.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Listen, A.J. was at the Emmys hosting. Okay. You know. Okay. These are legit. These are legit hoes. I'm so excited to have them. But, guys, we have AJ And Amazing. What's up, y' all?

[Junior]

Listen, we're so excited to be here. It's just so wild. It's so wild to see the things you're doing right now and to know, like, I remember back in the day, that restaurant you worked at, I remember when you guys were doing that, like, run through. You were, like, practicing being servers, and we got to come in, and you, like, waited on us that night, and you were so sweet and so wonderful. And you're in your little denim. Little skirt outfit.

[AJ Gibson]

Denim skirt.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

It was a denim out. It was a denim dress. Y' all. Y' all are forgetting how wild that was. And every time I watch that, it got smaller and smaller until eventually one of our owners, actually, when I was waiting on their table, because I would always have to wait on them, which I was like, why? This is not an honor. I don't want to.

[AJ Gibson]

Because you were one of the great. Go ahead.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I was a liar, bro. If I forgot to bring something up, I would be like. I would walk up to the table and be like, oh, my God. I know y' all missing something. What is it? And then they'd be like, oh, it's the little corn. I was like, see, that's what I thought. Let me go to the kitchen. Cause I gotta cuss them out, acting like it's them.

[AJ Gibson]

It messed up.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And then I go into the kitchen. I'd be like, can we wait?

[AJ Gibson]

But the best part is, you would go back to the table. You be like, listen, I went in there, I talked to them. Everything's covered. I'll talk to my manager, see what I can do about getting this off your check. I'm so sorry they messed up.

[Junior]

Yeah. And then you go to the kitchen. You're like oh my God, this table. They're so impossible. I'm so sorry. They forgot to order something. They just now told me about it. Everybody listen. Uh huh. Listen. I'm a corporate trainer for the Cheesecake Factory, honey. I used to work at the Cheesecake Factory. I get the game, I get it.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Wow, that's a long ass. That menu's longer than the Bible. When you open the Cheesecake Factory menu it'd be like the book of salad. You be like okay, like okay.

[Junior]

So true, so true.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

When am I gonna get to the meats?

[Junior]

Oh, you better believe we got tested on every single ingredient in that menu for food allergies, peanut allergies, all of it. It's a wild menu.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Wow. I don't think they doing all that post pandemic. I feel like now they just like do you wanna, can you please work in?

[Junior]

Like yeah, you get what you get, right?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right. So but yeah, that's where we started out. And those outfits were so tight that one of the owners at one point was like leaned over to me in my ear and was like okay, so we gonna get you a new uniform. Cause I was busting out that bitch.

[AJ Gibson]

Cause they were custom uniforms. Our shirts and the dresses were custom. Like they got em made somewhere. You couldn't just go get it somewhere.

[Junior]

I remember his shirt stank cuz it was like this denim that was like an inch thick. It was the thickest shirt on earth. And I would try to iron it for him and it was like a like cardboard, it was like wood and it was like a piece of plywood that he had some snaps on the front and a collar. And I would try to iron that for him because I was like trying to be like a good, like a supportive man. And I. And it would like as you iron it, I would be smelling all the sushi coming out now.

[AJ Gibson]

Why you got to come over here?

[Junior]

Listen, listen.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Anybody who's working like that, like he.

[AJ Gibson]

Had that brother funk that just would not go away.

[Junior]

You've worked at a restaurant, you know the scam, you spray Febreze on it, you iron it, you don't wash it every time. Cuz you become after you leave the restaurant, you go have some drinks with your co workers, you come home and you got to work a shift the next day and that shirt is not clean. So I'd be trying to spray and iron it every time, get it ready for him. And it was just nasty. It was nasty.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I just started stealing them after a while. I knew where they were.

[AJ Gibson]

The bag Exactly. Once you figured it out.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

My bag. Yeah, no, they weren't playing with me. But, guys, what. Other than the scams that obviously we all ran together at this now defunct restaurant, rip.

[Junior]

Survive the pandemic.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

But, guys, what are your relationships? Have you guys ever been scammed? And this is an individual question, so, like, aj whoever wants to go first, but have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? Like, it could be anything.

[Junior]

I'm gonna start because I get, like, I'm real nervous. Here's the thing about me. Like, low key. Like, I think I'm a bad boy, but, like, the littlest thing in the world makes me nervous. Like, if, for instance, a light is turning red and there's. It's a crosswalk and there's not a car in sight, I'll be standing on the curb forever just waiting. I'm like, I don't trouble. I'm gonna get trouble. I don't want to break a rule, so I'm not gonna do it right. So, like, I'm always, like, very aware of scams. I try to read people's energy real quick, and I'm like, you ain't gonna pull a fast one on me. Like, I'm pretty good at reading, like, character. However.

[AJ Gibson]

I was about to say. I want to hear however.

[Junior]

I dated some trash men before Emil. And one of the last ones I dated, I got scammed into this date. We saw each other, we met each other, we went out, and our first date started on a Thursday night. And that date lasted till about Monday morning. And I was like, damn, we were getting it in all weekend long. I thought it was like, this is the man of my dreams. This is the one.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Now we were getting it in all weekend long. It was like, one of my dreams. How is that A plus B equals C? We was getting in.

[Junior]

Here's the thing. I thought this had some money. Look. He was handsome, attractive. He was. I thought he was a professional. He drove a BMW.

[AJ Gibson]

I have lots of thoughts, by the way.

[Junior]

Real nice furniture. And I was like, oh, yeah, this is the one. He's an adult, and I need.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I want apartment. Knocking on wood. He was like, oh, that ain't corkboard. That ain't ikea.

[Junior]

That's not the.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

That's not the Uskin toxicin. This is some real.

[Junior]

Like, yeah, Loki. Like, his couch was.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You ain't make this with an allen wrench.

[Junior]

His couch wasn't eco leather. It was actual leather. It was real. You know, people be making up eco leather That's a scam, by the way. Eco leather. Makes you feel better about buying some cheap crap is what it is, right?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

It's plastic. But, no, this is saving the turtles. That's like.

[Junior]

He took me to a farmer's market that Sunday. I was like, oh, he's fancy. He got money. He buying vegetables, fruits and vegetables at a farmer's market. Not Ralph. So I was like, I was all in. I called my mom after a weekend of great sex in farmers market. And I say, on Monday, Mom, I found the man of my dreams. I'm going to marry this man. Well, we dated for about three months. It blew up real bad. It was terrible. However, as I was dating him, I was realizing I was getting scammed because one night, Loki, he lived this real nice, like a. A complex over on Sunset Boulevard. And these lofts were nice, right? He had money, I thought. And somebody had money, I thought. Somebody? No, somebody like maintenance knock on the door one time who had to act like nobody was there, and we had to stay quiet and not let him in. And I was like, that's. That's kind of weird. Why doesn't he want maintenance in his home?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Wait, so pause, AJ Pause. What were y' all like? Was it like y' all was chilling or making eggs or something? And then it was like a.

[Junior]

Just watch a movie. Watch a movie. Hurry up. Turn the movie out. Stay real quiet. Turn the lights out. Just chill, right? So we didn't answer, and I was like, that's kind of odd. Like, this is a little bit weird, but I kind of wrote it off because he had, like. He had real leather. So I was like, all right. He's. He's. He's legit human.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah. Real D. Okay. So he was like, every now and then.

[AJ Gibson]

Here you go. This is where this. Where agent lets you know, he ain't concerned about the D. All he care about is the ass. Go ahead, aj.

[Junior]

I was into a couple things back then. I'm into all the things. I don't discriminate. Okay? So. So I'm into the ass, but I'm into some D sometimes, too, so. So then one night, randomly, he and his roommate, which should have been a red flag because he still had a roommate. I'm like, he's not as grown as he thinks he is because he's got a roommate paying for half the rent. Well, try not to be judgmental. We go. And he's like, hey, we're going to go down to the storage room at my, like, condominium, like, complex. And we go in there and Loki's like, hey, grab the end of that couch. I'm like, what? He's like, grab that. He be stealing furniture. So this is like a high end place. And they would rotate their furniture every so often. Their artwork, their furniture, their tables, their end tables. Like fancy, fancy stuff, right?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

How did he know when the drop was happening?

[Junior]

He would put. They will put it in. He would keep an eye on it. They would put that in storage and he would steal it. And his whole ass apartment was furnished from leftover stuff that this fancy ass complex stopped using. That's why he didn't want the maintenance to come in. Because his couch, his artwork, his kitchen table, it was all like mid century modern and sexy and none of it belonged to him. He stole that.

[AJ Gibson]

You sound like you still angry about it.

[Junior]

He scammed me all summer long and that started to eat away at me. And by the time I really realized, I was like, this man. This man. Listen, this man is trash. I put his keys under his doormat one day and never went back.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You already had keys after three months, right?

[Junior]

I said, I love you, I'm going to.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Sounded very lesbian.

[Junior]

No, it was like I had a U haul ready to go. I'm telling you, that first date was four nights long. And I said we were getting it in. We were. I was ready. I was ready to marry this man.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And turns out your fiance is like next to you.

[Junior]

No, that was before this one. So that set me up for this one, I think.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay, so the scam was he. So he wasn't squatting in the apartment. That's what I thought was happening when you said, turn the lights off. When he was like, turn the lights off.

[Junior]

It's interesting that you bring that up because turns out he was a few months behind on rent as well.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay.

[Junior]

And he's. He works.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

He wasn't quite squatting, but he was like sitting.

[Junior]

He was avoiding. Because he stole his furniture and didn't pay his rent. And also it must have been a rough season in his life because he's. And I still don't like Loki. Still think this is the greatest scam job of all time. He was a consultant. Like, what the hell are you consulting on? And he would like. So consultants can get like tens of thousands of dollars to like sit with you for a couple hours and give you some ideas for your business. And they're making money and doesn't matter if it works out or not. They've got their check, they're gone. He was a consultant. He Was he was the eternal scam.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Everybody in la. Look, bro, everybody on a dating app in la, all the men. When I tell you, when I see consultant, I'm like, okay, you ain't got no job. Like, like that's. What are you consulting? Like, especially because they'd be like, consultant at consulting. What that mean is like, I feel like anybody could do that. I feel like when I get on the phone, my girlfriend and she's like, girl, I don't know if I should leave him. And then I give her advice. I'm like, is that consulting? I just consulted her and get her.

[Junior]

Then you send her an invoice for $8,000.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Start invoicing your friends. If your friend is talking about the same raggedy ass man woman, you know, person for a long time, you gotta just go ahead and hit them with an invoice on Venmo afterwards. It's like you done broke up with Dae Dae too many times for me to just not date. Solicit for free day.

[AJ Gibson]

Lord.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I got Friday on the brain. But okay, so this man was stealing the. I like his scam. I'm into it. I actually like this gu. Is he available?

[Junior]

He's trash. No, he's married now. He scammed some man into marrying him to get. I think. I think to get U.S. citizenship. This man, now he's married to him. I don't know what's going on. Listen, I see him everywhere.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

That's why he was having you move in. He was like, great. I'm about to tell you what car popping this man and I. Can you see my furniture robbery. Our rent is not paid.

[AJ Gibson]

I can't. Not the full song. Wait a minute.

[Unknown]

At all.

[Junior]

No, Loki. Our birthdays are one day apart. He live at older. But our birthdays are one day apart in. In July. And every year up until about a year or two ago, and we dated a decade ago, until about a year or two ago, he would text me every year on my birthday. And I do not have this man's phone number. I have not reached out to him. I have not. After that day, I left. I think I saw him one more time after my grandma died. And I was real sad. And he came over, we had some sex on my couch. And then I sent him home again. But besides that, why we have not.

[AJ Gibson]

Sex with this man though. Multiple times. Great sex. I told my mom about the great, great sex that I had with this man who scammed me.

[Junior]

I'm gonna tell you that we had.

[AJ Gibson]

Sex for four nights all day. Long.

[Junior]

Listen, boo, I'm gonna tell you this.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Hello, mother. I had great sex with a man. He has quality furniture. It's definitely from CB2.

[AJ Gibson]

Lacey, I want to point out AJ sounds nothing like that. We keep doing this.

[Junior]

What's going on? I feel like I'm triggered.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, no.

[Junior]

But like Loki though, this man was a scammer. And he will call me every year and he'll be like. And the first couple years, I legit just didn't know who it was because you get a bunch of birthday messages. Happy birthday. And my response is like, thank you so much. I'm sorry, who is this? And every year he would get so mad that I wouldn't know his number. His ego was so, so bruised. And then after a few years, I knew exactly who it was.

[AJ Gibson]

And I see the previous.

[Junior]

No, no, I would delete it. I delete. I delete bad things out of my phone because I don't want the energy that's toxic. So then, so then after a few years, I would low key, I would low key be like, I don't know who this is. I'm so sorry, who is this? And he would get. And I would just do it just to piss him off because I know so mad. And then he stopped.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Wow, aj, I see that this scam is still. It's still gotta right.

[AJ Gibson]

He had every detail to the scam. Because my scam is not that detailed.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Emil, what's yours?

[AJ Gibson]

Well, first of all, before I get into my scam really fast, I just want to point out that at the beginning of AJ's tirade, just now, his scam, great sex boyfriend, he said, I'm a. I have a great discernment of character. I can tell. So I don't get scammed, right?

[Junior]

No.

[AJ Gibson]

I don't apparently ignore the boyfriend situation. I thought you were going to talk about the random email address that sent you something about your Facebook page. Talking about he can make thousands of dollars a week.

[Junior]

I fell for that one once.

[AJ Gibson]

I said, aj, how are you going to make more money with these Facebook ads and the followers you have on your Facebook page?

[Junior]

How many times you get that email from like mariellaariela.com or something? And she'd be like, listen, we want to pay you $600 a week for paid ads on your Facebook. And I was like, damn. I clicked a link one time like three, four years ago.

[AJ Gibson]

But you were starting to give this man or woman information. I was like, aj, abort. Okay.

[Junior]

Because low key, they used a real website email address when I Looked at.

[AJ Gibson]

It, I could tell it was a scam. Anyway, so that's AJ Getting scammed. Here's the thing. Mine really isn't that long. Back when I used to work for this product, this company, and I was an on camera host, they took crafty away after a while. I was there for a long time, and then all of a sudden, the budget, which, by the way, that whole job was a scam within itself because we found out one day, and this is going to explain what I'm going to say in a second, but one day we found out that the money that we thought was coming into the company was going to one of the CEOs or the owners, whatever. And then we found out, in addition to that, that the woman who was handling accounting was laundering funds away from the company off on the side. And because of this woman, the company went under and I got laid off from my job. Found out two days after the election. But here's the thing. Crafty used to be amazing. When I first started the job I'm talking about, they had every name brand. They had the Welch's gummies, the cheeses, the Rice Krispies treats.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

They had healthy crab legs, Right?

[AJ Gibson]

They had everything.

[Junior]

Yeah. If you don't work in Hollywood, crafty's like just the food they feed you, right?

[AJ Gibson]

And there's trash Crafty that you can tell. They went to the dollar tree and there's like the real crafty.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And to explain even further, crafty is like, so on set you'll get meals that'll be prepared for you. But crafty is something if you want to graze and snack in between meals so that you can stay, you know, awake, you know, go get a Red Bull. Go get a sandwich. Go get that. So Bill's saying that the crafty was popping. You know, they was having, like, was elite hors d' oeuvres. They was having horse.

[Junior]

No, he used to come up with.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

A backpack full of snacks.

[AJ Gibson]

Listen, listen, listen. It was stacked with snacks, and meals were great. Like, everything was great.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So slowly the snacks started to dwindle.

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah. It started to deteriorate to the point where they then locked up the snacks behind the cabinet and they had the front desk lady only put out a few snacks a day because they wanted to preserve what they had. So they have to go to Costco every five weeks. So here's the thing.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You went from crab legs to, like, opened a sleeve of saltines, and they were like someone was handing them out. Exactly. You can have like a church.

[AJ Gibson]

That was the Fishiness of it. That was the fishiness of it. And then because of that, we would then have to start going to restaurants, like, around the way. So we would walk on our lunch break to these restaurants. And the place where I worked was in Beverly Hills. I was making, after taxes, less than $100 per shift for this hosting job. It was trash. And, you know, the company I'm talking about, it was trash.

[Junior]

And that company's paying rent in Beverly Hills. They got money, right?

[AJ Gibson]

Five days a week. Well, no, I was freelance at that time. Cause I was working at our restaurant at the same time and then simultaneously working there. And, you know, at the restaurant we worked at, we got scammed because we weren't making nothing. We got this restaurant job across the street from Soho House and BOA Steakhouse. I'm like, oh, we about to be making money.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

We turned in, like, 2,000, $4,000 worth of tips, like, individually. And then they would be like, okay, now we gotta split it for everybody, including. So we gonna pay the bar bags. We go pay the dishwasher. We go pay the cooks. We go pay. And I was like, why are you not paying them? Why we got to give all of our money away? Yeah. And then that's when they started calling us mercenaries. Because we would start looking. I would. I would go through everybody's. Because I knew all the logins. I would go through everybody's login and see how much money they made. And the people who made the lease, I would go to the manager. I'd be like, okay, so you can cut Johnny, you can cut Fred, You. You can cut them out of here.

[AJ Gibson]

Because I'm trying to make some money. They're not doing anything anyway. Let me. Can't. Let me handle it. No. So basically, I wasn't making money, but I had to go to these expensive restaurants, and I was broke. And so I'm walking down the street. We went to get. Me and my best friend Drew. We were walking down the street, went to get, like, an acai bowl or something. We're walking back, and Drew is this beautiful chocolate queen. She's a model. She's a host to an actress, so whatever. So we walk together, and everybody's always like, and I'm sorry. We were in Beverly Hills, and, you know, there are some white people who like to just look at you a certain way, and they're like, oh, my God. And so they would come up to us, and they were like, there's that voice again.

[Junior]

There's that voice again.

[AJ Gibson]

That's how they talk, though. They were like, it's real.

[Junior]

It's real.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

They're like, oh, my God, a rapper, or.

[Junior]

What do you feel about a basketball player?

[AJ Gibson]

They would talk about her hair. Then they would be like, are you guys a couple? Because you guys are. I'm like, no, I am gay. And then I would, like, flame out. Like, we just. We turn to a joke. But then a few months before, like, I'm in a ball.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay.

[Junior]

Ballroom. Okay.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I can't.

[AJ Gibson]

So I'm over here sashaying down the way, and all of a sudden. Shantae, you stay. All of a sudden, I started to get approached by these, like, psychics every couple of weeks, or these, like, street psychics.

[Junior]

I remember when you told me about this stuff.

[AJ Gibson]

Yes. So we're walking, and this guy with a turban on and, like, full garb. Like, it was hot as hell outside.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay. He was giving costume. I'm a beast.

[AJ Gibson]

He was exactly. He was believable. He came up to me.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

He looked like he got a future. He looked like he got a future. Exactly.

[AJ Gibson]

Exactly. So he comes up to me, and I'm thinking, okay, cool. And whatever he said, when he initially came up to me, I was like, oh, my God. Because at that point, I was so gullible, and I believed everything you came.

[Junior]

Home and told me. I remember.

[AJ Gibson]

I know. And he. He hooked me in, and so he's, like, telling me my fortune. He's like, there's gonna be a great opportunity for you in April. And at the time, I had a call back recently, and I'm like, oh, my God, that job starts in April. Oh. Oh, this is it.

[Junior]

Okay, listen, you tell anybody in Hollywood, Los Angeles, there's a big opportunity around the corner for them. Their ego is gonna take a Runway.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

He was looking up pilot season. He was like, what is. Hold on.

[AJ Gibson]

He's like, so I see a lot of shows happen around. Listen. He was hella authentic.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And then March, January, he pulled out, like, a.

[AJ Gibson]

He pulled out a photo from his family in Bangladesh, and he was, like, telling me this backstory about how he was blessed and all these different things. Then he told me to write down a number, write down a date, and write down something else, and I swear I ripped it up or something. But then Drew was saying he must have done some mind magic stuff, because somehow that paper was, like, in his other hand, and he. He still had my ripped paper. And he had the ripped paper in one hand and this in another hand, like a new paper. He starts writing down numbers and dates and he got my stuff, right? And I was like, drew, how would he have known that? Cause I ripped up the paper. And she was like, I don't know. So then this man tells me. I was like, oh, that's cool, but we have to get back to work. He's like, okay, well, in order for your fortune to come true and for you to be blessed in April, I need some monetary compensation.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I need 10 installments of 9.99, and then your dreams will come true. I love that. This guy does close up magic. He's also a magician. And then he came in, he was like, now you're not gonna get the dream if you don't cough up.

[AJ Gibson]

But here's the thing. And I. I didn't know what to do. Wait, wait, Lacey, don't judge me now. Cause I felt some judgment. I let you tell your scam, let me tell mine.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I have talked. I've told people many times on this podcast. I've been scammed. I do scams. Like, And I don't do real. Like that guy from that Groove Theory who was attacking me on Twitter. Guys, I don't actually do real scams on people. So if anybody's named Lacey Mosley reaches out to you for some coin, it ain't me, but point me in a direction, because I want my cut. But I don't do real scams. I do like petty scams, but go ahead. So you paid the man. It's okay. I have. I have been through many scams.

[AJ Gibson]

I was broke. But this didn't make no sense. No, here's. Here's the thing. I didn't have any cash. I had no cash. So I said. I said to the man, I don't have cash. I only carry around cars. The man then proceeds to. He points across the street to my building where I work, where there's a Bank of America. He's like, there's an ATM right over there. I'll wait. Lacey, when I tell you. And this is no lie. This is no lie. When I tell you. Drew and I were waiting at the crosswalk with this mime magician over here so he can get his funds, I go to the atm, and I was like, well, sir, how much? Like, I can take out a 20? He's like. And I said, what do you want me to do? I am broke. I gave this man $80. I gave him $80. That was my whole day pay. That was all the money I made.

[Junior]

That's a random number. How do you get to 80?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, 80 ain't even 100? Why did you just give him 20? Telling us all you had?

[Junior]

He would have took 20, 50, or 100. Makes sense.

[AJ Gibson]

Like my dream wasn't gonna come true.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And by the way, why y' all haggling over your dream? That ain't. That ain't how dreams work he talking about. All right, now, for 25, you can have a quarter of your dream.

[AJ Gibson]

He got me, y' all. I was young, dumb, and broke.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Listen, he got me young, dumb. Young, dumb.

[AJ Gibson]

And, bro.

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[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Guys, what's hot in fraud? This is where we warn our listeners about popping scams and the Zeitgeist. Or more often than not, we get your letters. Guys, as always, scam got a [e-mail]. snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure your scam is retired because we don't want to. What up your bag. Exactly. And guys, it. This is a very kind of similar segment to confess your mess. If you like to hear personal stories, anecdotes, anonymously told that are messy as hell, you should definitely listen to me and AJ's podcast. Uh, but this is our listener letter for today. Uh, I need a fake name. Emile. Aj.

[Junior]

Uh, France. French. Frances. Francesco.

[AJ Gibson]

Wow, you are struggling with that.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

The struggle to get there. Wow. So Francesco. So Francesco sends in a funeral procession scam.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, no.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Hello, Ms. Lacey. Now, Ms. Lacy. Okay, Francesco.

[Junior]

That is not how Francesco talks.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I have a scam for you. I don't know how I feel about it, though. Lol. Okay, so sadly, I lost my cousin just recently. Oh, I'm so sorry, Francesca. So I went to her funeral to say goodbye. After we left the funeral home, we did a procession to the burial site. Very common. You know the police will come. The only time the police are not harassing black people, when they're following them, you know, they'll come on the motorcycles and they'll drive in front of you and behind you so that there's no traffic, so that everybody can get to the repass or the funeral home or wherever you're going like safely. Now on the day of gps, you know, funeral processions seem not really necessary.

[Junior]

You know, I saw one, I saw one in LA last week coming back from a gig and I hadn't seen one out here in the 15 years I lived here. Back home they put those little flags on your hoodie or car and so everybody has them. I don't see them out here. I saw one.

[AJ Gibson]

So that way nobody can like sneak in. Just trying to avoid traffic.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, caught through traffic, we'll get there. But I will say, like, I feel like a funeral procession in LA is a flex because we have so much traffic. If you can get all these cars in the line, that's a flex. It's like, I need that when I die. I need everybody to stop all the traffic. I wanted some James Corden dancers on the street just like interrupting everything.

[Junior]

All the way to Forest Lawn. All the way to Forest Lawn.

[AJ Gibson]

We live right by where they do that James Corden stuff. And so we'll be driving sometimes like, oh, there's a full ass show happening. Can we please go?

[Junior]

Like, oh, look, there's Belle from Beauty and the Beast. That's going to stop up traffic for a while.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I feel like you could not do that in New York City. I feel like people would get out of their taxis and fight you.

[Junior]

Like, or they will just run over.

[AJ Gibson]

You or somebody's getting hit.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, right. At least in LA there's enough actors that they're like, ooh, maybe if I inch close enough to the crosswalk, I'm gonna be on James Corden tonight. Let me stick my head out the window. Watermelon sugar. Ha. This is my headshot. I'm trying to like get it in the frame. I just want audition.

[AJ Gibson]

I am living for these remix sis.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So it says during the procession, this van pulled up behind me, no sticker in the window. And I put and put on its flashers and headlights on and followed us through all the lights and stop signs like it was one of us. I thought maybe it was someone who got separated from our group somehow. Even though the funeral home was pretty vigilant about getting everyone a sticker. I don't know, I wasn't thinking about it. Well, clearly you were, Franchesco. Like, you was like, hold on, this. Who is in that van? Is it a Alice? Who is in the van? So it says, but then maybe a few blocks from the graveyard, it pulled into a parallel parking spot, smooth as ice. I thought to myself, they live near a graveyard and seem to be so confident about it. Lol. Like most of us in the procession, we were so much more hesitant when it came to light. So I wondered if they do this all the time. Oh, and then there's some nice stuff here at the bottom. Thank you so much, Francesco. So I will say maybe this person works near the funeral home, lives near the funeral home, and they catch a procession whenever they can because, you know, traffic is crazy.

[AJ Gibson]

I mean, that'll be. That would be the smart move to make.

[Junior]

Honestly, that's sort of iconic, first and foremost. Sorry about your loss, Francesco. That is our love. But also, yeah, if you'd be living near there, you're like, okay, traffic in L. A. We all know it. I can't. How many times have you thought to yourself, I got to move out of the city. I can't do it one more time? And then you sit in that traffic for a couple hours, and you find you get through it. But if I live near a funeral home or something, I'd probably be. I'd probably be doing it.

[AJ Gibson]

Side note, I'm over here. I forgot I took an edible. And so while y' all were talking, I was like, wait a minute. Francesco. That's such a unique name. And I forgot we made it up.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Oh, my God. Y' all are in for an episode today.

[Junior]

Frank, Frankie, Francis, or Francesco. I can't remember. We landed on Francesco so we can have twins.

[AJ Gibson]

Okay, so. So when we have twins one day. How about if it's a guy and a girl? We're non binary. We can just name them. But Francesco and Francesca, we're not doing that.

[Junior]

That's a terrible idea. Carry on.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So y' all are a fool. So I will say that I think this is a great scam. If I was whoever was in this van, I would keep, like, a veil in my van. I'd be like, oh, there they go.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Throw that joint on and slide. I slide right in every time. Like, ooh. Oh, my God.

[Junior]

A black one. Of course, yes.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

In a full veil in my car. Like, ooh, no, we got this red.

[Junior]

Light and a headshot, just in case. Of course.

[AJ Gibson]

Also, if he said the funeral home had stickers or something, would go to the funeral home, be like, can I get some extra stickers? They're like, for what? Just for memories.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right?

[Junior]

My scrapbook, if.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You know, I bet you could go to the funeral home at any time and be like, hey, I need some stickers, cuz. We out. We out front for the loss. We out front for the loss.

[Junior]

No, here's what you do of who.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Hold on, let me look at y' all program. Gertie.

[Junior]

Gertie. I'm gonna tell you something, Lacy. This is the scam. Here's the play. Here's what you do. You pretend like you're in elementary school or like middle school student doing a school project.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

How do you do that as an adult?

[Junior]

No, no, here it is. Here it is. You write them letters. You send letters and you ask them, and you send them a. An envelope with a stamp, and you ask them to send you those and say you're doing a collage of funeral homes and the way that we honor our loved ones because low key. When I was a kid. This is real. When I found out, I. I was told one time you had to do a class project where we had to learn about. About companies and corporations and how you could write them a letter and they would send you something, and I. I picked a chocolate chip cookie company and they sent me a box of chocolate chip cookies. What do you mean?

[AJ Gibson]

Was that.

[Junior]

When I was in, like, sixth grade. So I started loki sending little letters to people all the time. And I would get random.

[AJ Gibson]

Was that in the meal? The 80s.

[Junior]

But I'm saying that can still happen if you just tell them you're a kid. They're not. They don't want to hurt it.

[AJ Gibson]

I think it'll be easier just to walk in.

[Junior]

You might get.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You're requiring too much of the funeral home. Like, they are doing the buy, and now they gotta go mail you some damn.

[Junior]

I tell you. I told you. I told you. At the top of this thing, I get nervous breaking rules, so I can't go in person.

[AJ Gibson]

So instead of just asking for stickers, you're gonna come up with a fake story about somebody dying to get some stickers.

[Junior]

There's no connection.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

AJ prefers to do mail fraud. AJ prefers to do mail fraud. He was like, no, I stick to mail fraud. Face to face is just a little too, you know, uncomfortable for me. But I love a male fraud. God, no. I'm going in there and I'm just be like, hey, we with the ones who just left. Oh, the Thompson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need some more car stickers because some cousins pulled up from Arizona. Right? Like, right.

[Junior]

They were late. Yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And then I'm like, always having a funeral procession sticker on my car, and there's no one in a procession. I'm just running lights.

[Junior]

People like, hella nice to you. They're getting out of your way. They're like sending you their praying for you.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You a see the sticker. Like, damn, she got somebody die every week.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, my God.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And it's time for my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is when I will regale AJ And Emil with a famous con caper, maybe group of criminals, and we'll see. So I just want to give you guys a note. Like, the monetary figures in this episode have been converted from USD to aud. I'm a person. I know what AUD is. What kind, what a dollar is that? That Australia.

[Junior]

I know.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I'm like, yeah, it's Australia.

[Junior]

Okay.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I was right. Yeah. Look at me. Knowing other people's coins, I want to go to Australia. But they got lots of, like, animal insects that, like, every other day they'd be talking about a new spider or something on the ground that's killing you.

[Junior]

I'm like, but also, that's a long flight.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I feel like God started the plague first at Australia. He was like, we'll just play popping slowly.

[Junior]

You know, Australia was all prisoners back in the day, right?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right.

[Junior]

Yeah, that's Australia started just prisoners, and now they're all. Now they're bad boys and girls.

[AJ Gibson]

Wait, everybody was a prisoner?

[Junior]

Well, kind of, yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

It was like a. Like an island where they would send off, like, from Europe and like, they were sending those over there, the indigenous.

[Junior]

People, the Aboriginal people that inhabited it originally, before, like the white man came, and then they sent, like, prisoners there.

[AJ Gibson]

I think that's why.

[Junior]

And then they enslaved the Aboriginal people there before.

[AJ Gibson]

It was a prison thing though, right?

[Junior]

Yeah, for sure. But then they, like kind of enslaved them and took over their country and then sent prisoners there.

[AJ Gibson]

Lord.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I mean, you know, colonialism.

[Junior]

You know, I gotta apologize for that. You know, I just, like, real quickly as the white man on this. I got. I feel like I gotta apologize.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Oh, my God, aj. Oh. Oh, wow. Thank you for that apology. Oh, my God. Is racism disappearing.

[Junior]

It's over.

[AJ Gibson]

It's over.

[Junior]

Reparations. There they are.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I see it evaporated right now. Like Thanos. So from a young age, Jody Harris built a criminal career, stealing identities and committing large scale fraud. She was an expert at emptying bank accounts and wooing policemen. Oh, is it. Is she a baddie? I need a photo. Which earned her the reputation as the con queen of Australia. The con queen of Australia. Damn. I can't do It Lazy D's the Khun Queen of Australia.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, this is her.

[Junior]

There she is, that car. Con yourself into a better ride, honey.

[AJ Gibson]

Is that a Pontiac?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Can we zoom in a little bit more?

[Junior]

That's rough.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay, so Jody's not hard on the eyes. I don't know what the outfit is about. I thought she was gonna give us more, you know, Sofia Vergara or something.

[Junior]

She's relatable. That's the thing. That's how she conned you.

[AJ Gibson]

But the policeman.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Well, the policeman, you know, so. So Jody Harris was born in Queensland, Australia. She began befriending police officers at Melbourne police station, telling them she was 20 years old. She started a relationship with one officer and told him that she was the daughter of an advertising executive and had attended a prestigious Brisbane girls school. He only found out her true age when she crashed his car in disgrace. He moved overseas. So Jody committed a series of other fraud at a young age, including what would become her signature move, impersonating a police officer. She had begun stealing the identities and money from victims using a variety of disguises, elaborate stories, and unmitigated confidence to convince people that she was who she wasn't.

[Junior]

That's the part, though. It's the confidence for me that I gotta kind of respect it.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Because if you do things confidently, people don't have any reason to question you. Like, if I come, if I came up to y' all, when I met Emil at the restaurant, I was like, hi, I'm Lacy. Like, he wasn't gonna be like, are you, like, right?

[Junior]

We work in an entire industry of just overly confident people who are succeeding well beyond their skill level.

[AJ Gibson]

Who was. What was the name of the woman who came up on the screen?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So she had, like, an obsession with cops. Her career grew. She funded her taste in luxury goods and hotels by occasionally stealing documents from staff and guests at her swanky getaways. Despite the growing success, she seemed to be obsessed with the police. She had stolen the police bash and used it to pass herself off as a detective, getting a license from victims in order to steal their identities. Wow.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, no.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So she would show up, flash a badge, and be like, okay, run me your Social Security. Run me your driver's license. I gotta do a background check. Sir, I'm. I. You said I was jaywalking. Yeah, yeah, but I gotta do a background check. Just make sure that J ain't an L. So.

[Junior]

But, like, also Loki. You could give me every single bit of information, every number, every address, everything that you have, and I still Wouldn't know what to do with it. Like, I would have no idea. Like, how do I make money off this? I wouldn't even know.

[AJ Gibson]

Figure it out. Listen, listen, it ain't that hard, aj. Go ahead and run me everything. Oh, actually, we'll talk off camera. I want to incriminate myself.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So she managed to convince a Melbourne, Brisbane Police. Excuse me. Melbourne and Brisbane Police on separate occasions that she was an undercover officer and gained access to their facilities. Wow. She was like. She did a blue streak. She was like, yeah, yeah, I work here. She came in with a box of donuts and was like, I've been transferred. They were like, where? She was like, I'm trying to think.

[Junior]

Of another place in all of Australia. Sydney. I'm from. I'm from the Sydney branch.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

It's not.

[AJ Gibson]

But that's. That takes some type of skill.

[Junior]

I'd be sweating through my arms. Like, my armpits. I'd be so nervous.

[AJ Gibson]

Listen.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Through my arms. So I'll be sweating through bombs, y' all. So according to police sources, she had even been given access to confidential information about police operations and was issued a gun when she accompanied police on a drug raid.

[Junior]

Wait, they just gave her a gun?

[AJ Gibson]

See, there's some. There's some.

[Junior]

Does she have documentation?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You gotta be a bad to just show up with some donuts and a story. And they like, all right, here you go. Here's a gun.

[AJ Gibson]

Yo, shut it all down.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

What size you wear? What size you wear? We'll get you some new police uniform outfit. She coming in with the tearaway police outfit for strippers. And they were like, well, Jody, Jody, your pants is falling off. Oh, yeah, Yeah, y' all. Can y' all run me another uniform and a gun? I left mine at my other precinct. Yeah, give me a Glock.

[AJ Gibson]

I am done.

[Junior]

Give me a Glock.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Like, what is going on in Australia Police department that niggas just run up and be like, yeah, but Loki, you know, Loki.

[Junior]

Every time this happens, though, in America, we hear about all these shootings all the time. They had one mass shooting like the 1990s, and they shut that shit down and haven't had one since. Sense. So they're doing something right. But apparently they're giving everybody guns.

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah. Just letting random get guns.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Why did you have to bring up our country? Like, that's very embarrassing. Like, you know, our country is very embarrassing.

[Junior]

It's a little bit trash right now. I get it. I get it, right?

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah.

[Junior]

For the last 400 years. For the last 400 years, I get it? Listen, some of us white people catch up.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

16, 19.

[AJ Gibson]

Listen, let them know.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So during this time, Jody also continued to steal the hearts of police officers across Australia and supposedly live with the New South Wales Detective Detective for six months. What?

[Junior]

He's a detective? And he did not know, Like a background check on her?

[AJ Gibson]

They all shady. I'm telling you. Come on. He knew.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

He was expecting that coochie.

[AJ Gibson]

Exactly. He knew exactly what he was doing. Like, no, I'm gonna ride this out and I'm gonna let Jody ride me. Go ahead.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So here's some examples of her scams over the years. So, for a decade, Jody continued to have rather successful career, despite. And yes, we are calling her career Robbery. That's her career. That's her chosen profession. O.

[AJ Gibson]

Okay, okay.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So she was very successful. Okay. CEO of Crime. You know, despite her relationships with the police, she posed as doctors, psychologist, business managers, and even said that she was the niece of a late mafia boss, Mario Condello. So she's even pretending to be in the mob.

[Junior]

Well, that keeps people off your back.

[AJ Gibson]

I mean, yeah, she had it covered from all angles, right?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

She was working at hitting them angles. Okay. One time, a woman hit her head in Melbourne, Century City Square there. And Jody, taking advantage of the situation, posed as a doctor and swooped in to drive her to the hospital. No, no, at the hospital, she told the woman's father that she was a nurse and caught him out of enough information to change the woman's bank password and steal $8,000.

[AJ Gibson]

Wait, wait. This lady. This lady is injured in the hospital and she over here still worrying about her cons?

[Junior]

Listen, you got to be some kind of cold. You literally just drove this woman to the hospital, probably her own. Her crying to you, sharing her darkest, like, fears that she's going to die, and then you steal from her.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

She drove her to the hospital. Like, some would say, that's an ambulance.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, so then she got her ambulance feeds.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yes, so she got her ambulance feed. How do we know Jody wasn't like, we woo.

[F]

We.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

How do we know Jody didn't steal a funeral home sticker and run all the lights for my.

[Junior]

She's like the Uber of ambulances.

[AJ Gibson]

Here he is.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah.

[AJ Gibson]

Yes.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay, I'm start. I'm start doing Uber for people who can't afford ambulances. AKA most of our country. Like, no, no, no. Call Lacy, call LA. She'll be here at 25. No, I got you.

[AJ Gibson]

She's about $1,000 cheaper.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

We got Tylenol. Okay. Lay them in the back seat. Lay him in the back seat. Put the tarp up. Okay, we got Tylenol.

[Junior]

He was in the hospital weeks ago, and I took him to the hospital in the backseat, curled up in a ball, like, literally in pain. And I. I got an invoice you. Yeah, I'm gonna invoice you now. You agree? You agree with her?

[AJ Gibson]

Wait, y' all can't see my face, but if you would have saw my face just now, I was like, wait, hold up. Cause what we not gonna do is that. Wait a minute.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I don't know, Emil. I saw AJ driving past, and he had one fist out the window, talking about, wee woo, wee, woo wee. The traffic was moving. They was moving to the sides.

[AJ Gibson]

He was like, we gonna make this believable. Everybody move out the way.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

My ambulance gonna have Gatorade. It's gonna have Tylenol, those electrolytes.

[AJ Gibson]

Yes, I support.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I'm gonna have the three leftover codies from my tooth extraction. You know, you can have that. We'll have water. Okay. And we're gonna have ambient music. It's gonna be vibes in there. You know what I mean?

[Junior]

Ambient music.

[AJ Gibson]

If I'm ever in your ambulance, I would like smooth jazz. You need to do, like, a request form for either the or.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I mean, if you like drama, I could put on. Someone please call 91 1, tell them I have been. Get in there.

[AJ Gibson]

You got a little clipboard? Please check the vibe and mood that you would like for your ambulance ride.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right, Listen. So technically, I'm just gonna say my good sister Jody was an ambulance, so she had to get her ambulance fee. Makes sense to me. Robbery.

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[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So one of her victims told police she was even able to change all my personal details on the cards to hers to the point where when I tried to change them back to mine, I could hardly prove who I was anymore. Anymore. Wow, that is identity theft. Like, she really stole the identity.

[Junior]

Like, that would drive me nuts if somebody's like, no. They're like, well, no, they think I'm the criminal. I'm like, no, no, no, no. He stole my. I'm the. I'm actually him.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Sorry, Mr. A.J. if that's your name. You're getting really loud.

[Junior]

Of course I'm getting loud.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You're getting really loud in the bank, and I can't do the a. I really am.

[AJ Gibson]

I was over here sitting here. I thought I was watching a scene right now because I'm looking at Lacey and she's to act.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So go ahead, keep happening, Emil.

[Junior]

No, I feel like this is. No, this is like an advertisement for our podcast confess your mess, because she was actually our first guest on confess your message with her accent.

[AJ Gibson]

Listen.

[Junior]

You have to listen to understand what the confession was. But I feel like we're back.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yes, we are so. But yes. So there. You know, she's taken people's identities. For real.

[Junior]

For real.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Like, you know, you hear about a little credit card for us. She was like, no, I am you now. You can't get you back. It was like, do you want to start over? Like, would you like a new name? It's like, no, I would like my. The one I had. We don't believe that's you. Another time, Jody walked into a boutique posing as a business manager. She spent 600 and invited the boutique's owner out to coffee. I don't like going to coffee. I feel like coffee is a scam thing. I actually just unmatched with somebody on Hinge because they were like, let's go to coffee. I'm like, what do you want from me?

[Junior]

No, that is real. I used to do the coffee thing in my 30s a lot. And like one person would always be asking the other person for like an introduction or some sort of advice or something. Every single time.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right? And listen, I'm not mad at the scam, but I can't be having it ran on me. I, I matched with some guy and he said he was in some other profession. You know, if people say marketing, advertisement, all that type of. And they don't have consulting and they don't have like specific company, I'm like, this is a lie. You.

[Junior]

Well, because you know, you know how like Starbucks is successful because they like for an entire generation of people, it was like a luxury item. And it makes people all like, whether you're a multi millionaire or you're like lower middle income, you feel kind of fancy when you carry a Starbucks, right? It's like a nice elevated sort of coffee experience. As opposed to like Folgers from like the 80s.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Damn. Do you work for them?

[Junior]

No, no.

[AJ Gibson]

Loki, I understand why you gotta drag Folgers.

[Junior]

No, I understand the business model. So for me, if somebody is gonna. I'm gonna tell you a secret. Can I tell you a secret? I had, I had a. I dated a boyfriend in college, my college sweetheart. And he used to sing the best part of Waking up is AJ in your Figure it out. So.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Oh wow.

[Junior]

I'm a morning guy. I'm a morning guy. The word is butt, ladies and gentlemen. But also. So coffee is that thing like when you're, when you're broke and you're trying to come up and you're trying to like get like, I don't know, like a producer or like somebody to like sit down with you and like hear your idea or consider you a gig, right? You're like, oh, let me take you to coffee. Cuz Loki, you can't afford the whole lunch or the dinner. You can just afford the coffee. So somebody asks you if they could take you to coffee, it's cuz they're broke.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah. And like I, I get it. In la, everybody's on these dating apps going, like, six to apps or six dates a day, that. That starts to add up. But with me, you go take me to dinner or I'm not talking to you. And he had his Instagram on the hinge. And then when I looked at the Instagram, I saw we had mutuals. And then I saw he was. Was like. Like, maybe a few scrolls back. He was like, they. I had so much fun on this, like, random ass TV network that you can only get in certain cities. And I was like, oh, my God, this man is an actor. He's trying to go out with me so he could get advice. And I just unmatched. Immediately I was like, oh, God, I'm gonna have to get off the apps. It's not working for me. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Like, I need to get some friends.

[Junior]

She's unraveling right now.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Oh, my God. No, I'm not. So back to Jody. So while at coffee, Jody managed to steal the woman's license, with which she acc. Accessed her bank accounts and stole over $60,000.

[Junior]

Well, that's real money now.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Oh, wait, so let me just walk this back for you. Jody walked into a boutique, posed as a business manager. She spent $600. So she dropped some cash up front to be like, I got coins, honey, I'm. That probably walked in with the drip. Right, Right. So that's like the bait. Right? That's the bait. So now this business boutique owner is probably like, oh, she spent $600. Like it was nothing. She didn't even look at nothing. She picked up, oh, she must have money. She was like, oh, you got money. So when Jody was like, let's go to coffee. She was like, yes, please. And then when they went, she somehow managed to steal all her information and then got her bank account and stole 60 grand.

[Junior]

That's a good. That's a good return on your investment, right? 600 bucks for 60 grand.

[AJ Gibson]

That's like 10,000.

[Junior]

That's a lot. I don't know.

[AJ Gibson]

That's the wrong math. That's definitely the wrong math, because 10,000 times 600. Oh, Lord.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Cause 10. It's like 100% return.

[Junior]

Wait, you did math on our podcast, too, and you nailed it. You were good.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You add a zero, that's 6,000. So it would be a hundred because you have to add two. Zero.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, so 600 times 100. Oh, yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

That's 4,000 times.

[Junior]

Yes.

[AJ Gibson]

Okay, okay, we did math, y' all. Everybody clap for math. Clap for math.

[Junior]

Math with Lacy.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Reading, writing and arithmetic. Know we do it all on scam Goddess. I know somebody was screaming at the radio or ipods like it's 100. I. I got there. I got there. Okay. I was like carried a zero. Curry another zero. Okay. So Andrew twinning. By 2006, detectives across the southeast southeastern Australia were hunting for the unknown woman who had been traveling across the country impersonating a variety of professions, stealing identities and draining them. Make it counts. W. She was draining up. It was also around this time that she met Andrew Twinning on a dating site. Woo Ch.

[AJ Gibson]

Okay.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Damn. Andrew is in it too. Look at him smiling in this photo. They took a photo at dinner and she holding his hand like, yeah baby, we in love.

[Junior]

He's got that classic sweater undershirt combo. Yeah.

[AJ Gibson]

Y.

[Junior]

That's money.

[AJ Gibson]

You know he got money.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right? Right. That's it. That the. I got money but I still buy clothes from Eddie Bow. I wear boo balances and bad jeans. Cause I don't got time for fashion. Cause I'm making money. Buy, buy, sell, sell.

[AJ Gibson]

You look at that back table. It's grainy, but they, they, they eating good.

[Junior]

But also there's a pepper mill.

[AJ Gibson]

Does that look like lobster? It looks like some lobster and vegetables.

[Junior]

There's artwork on the wall.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Can we see? Can we zoom anymore? It could be now. That boat looked ratchet, but I don't know how.

[AJ Gibson]

I didn't want to say nothing about the boat. I didn't want to judge the boat.

[Junior]

Now it's a nice cabernet.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

That boat is giving like home goods. We went and got a painting. You know, it's actually giving Ross, we would have got a painting. Would never.

[Junior]

For real?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah. Okay, so you know, but he taking her on a date. Obviously the date went well enough that he want to smile into a camera with her, you know, and she got the titties titting. She got him sitting on the table.

[Junior]

Listen, but Loki, can we just mention that doesn't really look like a restaurant. It looks like somebody's house. Like it doesn't give you restaurant vibes.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

But like it's against the wall like that. You don't just have a tablecloth and.

[AJ Gibson]

That other like that, that iced tea looking cup. That's like the curved glasses they only have in restaurants. But they don't have those type of fancy restaurants. So now I'm questioning whether or not this is fancy.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

They were grabbing a quick lunch.

[Junior]

They're at Buca to Beppo. That's right. They're at Buca to Beppo. It's a Capri Room by Dorit Kemsley from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. That's where they are, the Capri Room. It.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

It's giving buka. It's definitely giving buka. So Andrew Twinning was, believe it or not, a Victorian policeman. Okay. So he ain't got money like that. That's. It was given Bu.

[Junior]

Yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Jody had told him that she was a Virgin Airways hostess. Okay.

[AJ Gibson]

So I appreciate the versatility in Jody's professions.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Jody reads cuz, like, how are you making up all these.

[Junior]

Is that a flight attendant? Is that what that is?

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Junior]

Okay.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Because they don't call them stewardesses anymore. They call them flight attendants. But I guess maybe they call them hostesses. Or maybe she was just a hostess, I don't know. And she was like, yeah, I work for Virgin. You ain't never rode them. And they do the dance like, I'm in there. I'm in there. I'm to the left, left. You gotta look when they doing the big number.

[AJ Gibson]

I'm done.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

What is it? We love to fly Gonna live it on up in the sky Virgin America knows this a place that you wanna be Come away with me, Come away with me yeah, yeah, Listen. I remember I used to fly Virgin a lot.

[AJ Gibson]

We don't. We could not tell at all.

[Junior]

Didn't they go under?

[AJ Gibson]

No, they're gone.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

They got bought out by Alaskan Airlines. So now they about to be asked. Cause Virgin was the only plane that they would give you some mood lighting. Give you a little.

[Junior]

It was like a club.

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah, it was the mood lighting for me. That purple lighting. I was like, no, wait a minute. I'm gonna sleep well on this flight. Cause it's a vibe. It's a vibe.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Virgin was giving vibes, bro.

[Junior]

You could, like, text people at other seats, and you could, like, send them, like, direct messages and stuff on there. They had that like, like, chat app on there. She could, like, flirt with somebody in a row.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I was trying to get you to hook up. They wanted the Mile High. They were like, we have a bathroom that's just for fucking on Virgins. We want you to join the Mile High Club. Okay? So y' all text y' all seatmates to see what's going on.

[Junior]

You might come on here a virgin, but you ain't gonna leave a virgin.

[AJ Gibson]

I am done.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

We got the drinks popping. It's like, you can get bottle service on the Virgin flight. It's like, what? She has a sparkler, y' all. Ain't that against FAA rules? Oh, Richard Renson was like, turn it up. He was like, I want every flight to be like me on my private plane, but for the regular folks. But Alaskan Airlines probably gonna that up because they cheap. So that was a good time, though, except for after a while flying version. I didn't want to hear the whole song. I was like, can we get the radio edit? Like, we really got to go through the whole thing. Like, put your seatbelt in the back Hall.

[Junior]

Didn't Todrick hall do the Virgin?

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah, Todrick did a Virgin. Yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I remember that.

[Junior]

Wow. Yeah, it was lit. I used to send him that video every. So I texted to him every single time I get on that plane. And then after about three or four times, he probably got sick of it.

[AJ Gibson]

He's like, okay, you flying.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

He's like, I get this every day. Yes, I know. Virgin America knows is where you want to be. Fly away with me. Yeah, I get it. But I will say, after a while, I came to really enjoy the old school dry. Like. Like the. The flight attendant comes out, and she holds up a seat belt like she is just so through, and she. They're like, fasten it like this. Make sure that you put the air on yourself before the air on somebody else. I came to enjoy that because it was shorter and it was, you know, quicker. So. Yeah. So she said she. She flying away with me. Okay. She working at Virgin America. Okay. So that way she had a plausible alibi. Alibi when she would, like, disappear for days at a time. So she said, I'm a flight hostess that way, when she needed to go dis. Yeah, I don't think like that.

[AJ Gibson]

Smart.

[Junior]

I'm not a scammer. I don't think like that.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Damn. I'm gonna tell the next dude I don't want to really be with, but I want to keep dating that I'm a flight attendant.

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah. Popping in. Popping out of his life. He ain't have no clue.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I'm like, boo, I'm so sorry. I could not get your text from 35,000 fees. I'm so sorry. You know, I stay in the 35,000, you know, so I am done. Like, land is really hard for me, but I'll see you when I see you. So while Andrew thought she was working on flights, she was instead stealing from flight attendants on flights. Damn. Wait.

[Junior]

I don't have money.

[AJ Gibson]

I mean, some of them do.

[Junior]

Do they?

[AJ Gibson]

I don't know.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

During one business Flight to Queensland. Jody sat next to a flight attendant named Leah. While Leah was in the restroom, Jody nabbed her license and using it alone, managed to steal $16,000 from Leah's account over 5, 5 separate occasions. Her entire haul in Queensland amounted to $52,000 in cash and goods. Andrew had no idea about his girlfriend's true identity until Victoria police colleagues informed him that he was dating a criminal while on a cruise with his parents. Damn. I know that. Probably up the captain's dinner. He was on a cruise with mama and daddy.

[AJ Gibson]

He was like, man, I met this woman Jody. Oh, my God. When y' all meet her, I swear. And they're like, sir, he talking to us?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yep. Nah, she's got the best heart. Yeah. No, I see her. I see her once every three weeks when she's not flying. But we in love. She got the best furniture in her house. I'm telling you. Z Gallery, you knock on it like no cork board in sight.

[AJ Gibson]

We love Z Gallery.

[Junior]

We do.

[AJ Gibson]

Our pillows came from Z Gallery.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Classy. So Jody immediately went on the run and taunted police with phone calls and photos of herself. Not you sending photos to the police. What is. I think that maybe when Jody dated that police officer when she was real young, it made an impact on her. And maybe after that, she was like, fuck the police. But not for, like, legitimate reasons. She was just like, my boyfriend left town because I lied to him about my age. Now I hate the police, but honestly, like, she might have lied to him about her age, but any grown ass man or grown ass human being can tell when somebody is a minor. There's very rare cases, and I'm not gonna say any because I don't want to be mean where somebody does not look like they are a minor.

[AJ Gibson]

Speak on it. Yeah, speak on it.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So it's like, he was a little creepy. Like, don't rule that out. So she's taunting the police. Like, she's almost giving me serial killer vibes, where she's just like, wants to kind of be caught or wants the attention once. Like, she's like, tell them it was me. Let them know it was Jody.

[AJ Gibson]

Why have to have a cadence like that? It was me. Jody.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Jody. So a week after the first Harold Sun, a Melbourne newspaper, published its first story About Jody in 2006, she called senior Detective Paul Berticello's office and told him where she had been living. Damn. Now she calling the police and being like, okay, so this is where I was staying at. If you want me, come and get me. Covers Being hella dramatic.

[AJ Gibson]

Go ahead, Jody.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So authorities arrived at a vacated apartment union unit and found a Queensland police badge, a Victoria police shirt, and a virgin blue hostess outfit, along with a name tag, pin, crew bag and tags. Now why is she sitting them on this little goose chase?

[AJ Gibson]

Wait, she got them doing the scavenger hunt. So she calling. He's saying, so now you're gonna go to this address.

[Junior]

She wants to get busted.

[AJ Gibson]

Meet me in the park at three.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

To arrest me. Yeah, Cappers. It's like, jodie, you are.

[Junior]

Yeah, I'll be dressed as a police officer. Figure it out.

[AJ Gibson]

Jody had time today. I'm done. Oh God.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I'll be dressed as a tree. Good luck. What, sis? What? I have confusion. So Senior Sergeant Glenn Davies said it's like a scenario from the Leonardo DiCaprio film Catch Me if you can.

[Junior]

I've been thinking about this entire time, the whole time I wanted to say that reference, but I couldn't think of that movie. Yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So it's earning Jody the nickname of Australia's catch me if you can thief. I'm gonna say it doesn't really ring on the ear, I feel like.

[Junior]

Doesn't roll off the tongue. No, no.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Maybe in the ex. Australia's catch me if you can thief.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, it actually sounds better.

[Junior]

There.

[AJ Gibson]

That sells it. Yeah, it worked.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

So getting caught while still on the cruise ship. Andrew told authorities everything he knew about Jody and agreed to help them set a trap for her when he returned to Australia. Damn.

[Junior]

Turning that out.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

He gave you up quick. Andrew really, like did a 180 and gave her up. Probably cuz he was embarrassed. His mama and daddy was.

[AJ Gibson]

I was about to say he got embarrassed in front of his parents. He was like, damn, I'm like a 40. How old is that man? He. He was.

[Junior]

He's a grown man. He's a detective. Who didn't detect. Uhhuh.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Oh, damn. He didn't detect nothing. No radar. Wow. Radar completely off radar.

[AJ Gibson]

Said so he started questioning his whole life. He's like, I didn't even know the woman that goes ahead.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Like, Andre, we didn't rise you. I can't do it immediately with cockney. Okay. So when he returned, he asked Jody to meet him. And she took the bait. Damn. Jody. See this? Come on, Jody, you know you can't trust these men.

[Junior]

She's slipping up.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

These hoes ain't loyal. So the second she got in his car, officers swooped in and the con queen of Australia was finally arrested. When she was captured, Jody was carrying with Her a cachet of more than a hundred fake IDs, including driver's license, passports, Medicare cards, credit cards, mobile phones, SIM cards. So, damn, she was getting Medicare. She was like, yeah, I need eye appointment. I need to get my pap smear. Yeah, today I am. I'm Josh Simpson. Yeah, can y' all.

[Junior]

How she keep track of a bunch of SIM cards, right?

[AJ Gibson]

Like, Jody was smart, man.

[Junior]

Or was she?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I hope she had, like, a little folders. Like, how you got that many IDs on you at once. Like, how do you choose which one do you.

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah, and also where she. I guess she could have had her Persian story, but, yeah, that would get confusing. She got like a little one of those little card books, the spiral books. You just scroll through. Hold on.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right now.

[AJ Gibson]

Yes, Rachel.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

The cards, the passports, the IDs.

[Junior]

Wait, there's a couple California IDs up there, too. You see those right in the middle? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[AJ Gibson]

Yo, Jody was getting it.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Jody, how you done Scammed all the way to California.

[Junior]

Dang.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Wow. Scamming all over the world. We love to see. So as Jodie was led to prison, she showed a tattoo on her wrist to journalists and yelled about her presumably ex boyfriend, Andrew. He's got a matching tattoo on his. I wish I could do this. He's got a. He's got a matching tattoo on his arse. I can't do it. He's got a matching tattoo on his arse. Right cheek. Exactly the same. Damn.

[AJ Gibson]

I'm sorry. I'm looking at this photo of Jody and I just see, like, the pain in her face. She was like, I almost got away with it, too, if it wasn't for that Damn, Angie.

[Junior]

Wow.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Damn, she does look mad. She's like, andrew, how could you do this to me? And she's like, we got matching tattoos. You got. You got it on your ass. I got it on my wrist.

[Junior]

But that commitment, she was going all in.

[AJ Gibson]

I think she actually loved Andrew.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, matching tattoos. That's that ratchet love, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and that's real, you know, that's that kind. We key your car. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if she got out of jail and then start fucking around with Andrew again, you know?

[AJ Gibson]

Listen, that's the.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

That hustle and flow. Sweaty, no air conditioning, tongue kiss, love. So Jody faced a series of sentences and parole across North South Wales, Victoria and Hand Brisbane for her crimes, which totaled over a hundred counts. Wow. They got in there and they were like, one. She pretended to be in the Police. She robbed a. Of coffee. She was ganking on the plane.

[Junior]

4.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

She stole from it. Like, it's just like, damn. Oh, wow. This is. This is Sad. So on September 2006, at the age of 28, Jody pleaded guilty to stealing $130,000 from 33 victims of North South Wales.

[Junior]

Wait, wait, wait. She was 20.

[AJ Gibson]

28.

[Junior]

She was 28 going on 46.

[AJ Gibson]

Let me tell y' all, because Jody, Jodi was aging because of all the stress from trying to keep up with these multiple identities. She was counting the way she was.

[Junior]

Giving him a lot of lies.

[AJ Gibson]

I did not think she was 28.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Dang, yo, I bet going into Starbucks is very triggering for Jody. They be like, coffee for Jim. She's like, fuck, is that me today? Damn it. Anytime somebody name get called, she looking like they talking about me. Yeah, that's stress. That's too much stress, Jody. So then the Melbourne County Court Harris Police, or excuse me, Harris. Jody Harris, pleaded guilty to 36 counts relating to 15 victims, including stealing $90,000 from several banks. To this day, Jody's investigators grudgingly admit that she's the best female confidence swindler Australia's ever seen. I don't know. Maybe you just need to take the female off and put her up there with the best. Like, I feel like police officers, others, like, because of the misogyny and, like, all the awful things that are embedded in our criminal justice system and. And honestly, police everywhere. So we're talking about Australia specifically, but we're still talking about men for the most part. And like, to be bested by a woman. And she was calling y' all, like, nana, nana, boo, boo for so long. Like, I'm sure that really hurts their egos, which it shouldn't. They should be, like, proud.

[AJ Gibson]

Like, this is come get me, cuppers.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Come and get me.

[AJ Gibson]

It was me, Jodie. I can't get over.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

She was leaving little notes. She was leaving little note recorders. Like, let's see what it says. It was me, Jodi.

[AJ Gibson]

On RuPaul's Drag Race, when they get eliminated, she goes and she turns around and she's like, it was me, Jodie. And then she satchays away, right?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

That's her. Ms. Jodie. Ms. Jodie.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, my God.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yo, so she really. She really humbled them, and I appreciate that. As of 2019, Jodie was living with her mother and working as a mobile home cleaner. Now, why. How. Why would y' all let her work in somebody's home where all of their things are? I just Feel like Jody work at a call center. Work at a bank. Not at a bank, but work, you know, but working in people's homes, I don't know. Your finger's too sticky. So magistrate Alan Moore sentenced Harris to just four years with non parole period of three and a half. After that, Harris faced the Victorian counter court. So she got to go. Lord, word, she said, okay, I got four years to do here. All right, we get in the Uber. All right, so now we're gonna go to Victoria County Court. They gonna give me my jail time over there. So there she was sentenced to be jailed for five years and nine months, effectively adding nine months to her New South Wales sentence. So they don't compound these like that.

[Junior]

Like they ran them concurrently. So they actually she got credit for both at the same time.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yo, that's a nice hookup because they'd be like consecutive back to back to back. Oh, wow. So. Wow. So with time already served, she paroled within two years. Come on, Jody. That's what I'm talking about.

[Junior]

She's 30. She's getting out at 30.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, that's not bad. A two year bid for like 10 years of living lavish, stealing from everybody.

[Junior]

Yep.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I don't know. Sounds good to me. So later on parole, Harris had to go to Brisbane Magistrate court over her Queensland crime spree. So now she gotta go to another court like that. It's like another court, court, another court, jail, another court, another court, another court bus, another court. She got to hit them all. So. So she goes over there. She admitted to 116 forgery and theft charges and was given a suspended sentence of 12 months. So wow. So Jody shout out to a real one. Shout out to her and she's free. Street Jody. She out here in these streets.

[AJ Gibson]

It was me.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Don't leave your all around me. True robber. For real.

[AJ Gibson]

I'm done. Situation.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Will arise.

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, my gosh. Yo, Jody is a real man. Wow.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Let me get you social like. I don't know why I'm in a remixing song mood today. Sorry, I live for it. It's time for the saddest part of the show where I have to let Emil and AJ go. But before we do that scammer of the week. This where we highlight an honorary. Honorary. I can't even talk. Honorary charlatan group of criminals. You know, we don't know. And maybe we hate them, maybe we love them. We'll see. So a man from Escondido, California, has pleaded guilty to 1.1 million in art fraud. So scheme so Jason Harrington, 38, sold forgeries he claimed to be by the artist Richard Hamilton, a Canadian artist known for his work as a street artist to at least 15 galleries and individuals. The scam included Harrington using fake letters that were supposedly from the original buyers of the art, claiming that they received the pieces from Hamilton himself in order to sell the prospective new buyers. Okay, let me see some of this art. So Harrington also photoshopped pictures to make it seem like the people who obtained the artwork personally knew or made Met Hambledon. So is these black people.

[AJ Gibson]

Is that Michael Jackson?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I don't like that. So he wrote. He wrote fake letters and was like, my cousin Johnny met Hambledon. And he got this art directly from him. Actually, the paint wasn't even dry yet, and he had got it from him. And look, this is a picture of them. And he done photoshopped somebody's head on somebody else's body. I mean, there's a lot of effort here. And if it looked real, I mean, art is a. Art has a lot.

[Junior]

What is art? What is art?

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, yeah, There's a lot of money laundering in art. There's a lot of scamming in art. So, you know, I don't know if I'm really that mad at it. So in combination with the elaborate cover stories. Oh, wait, what were you gonna say.

[Junior]

AJ Notice a lot of art stolen from a lot of countries by other rich countries who colonized and keep that art and claim it as their own for generations.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And it's called museum. Yeah, it's called a museum. That's why, you know, everybody was. Which annoyed me, because everyone was trying to get in Beyonce's ass about wearing that yellow diamond, the Tiffany diamond. What? I was like, okay, but y' all wasn't in Lady Gaga's ass when she wore it. And I just feel like, who could stop colonization better than the descendants of the colonizers? You better speak to. I don't know. Like, I feel like y' all putting a lot on Beyonce. Like, yeah, yeah. It's like, there. There's history there. But I'm like, I don't know. She's the closest to Africa the diamond's been in a while.

[AJ Gibson]

Like, listen, I. I said the same thing, and she made donations, too. Like, leave that girl alone.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Right? Leave her alone. It's not black people's responsibility to stop, like, colonialism. Like. Like, yes, we are fighting. Yes, we are all a part of it, and we all do need to be conscious. And maybe it was a poor decision. Maybe the optics Aren't great, but I wasn't running it up on Lady Gaga like that. She got a who call telephone and ain't none of y' all call her. So I'm done.

[AJ Gibson]

I am done with Bey.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

You better let him know.

[AJ Gibson]

Full circle moment there.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Okay, so like, come on now. So to wrap this up, in combination with an elaborate cover story and targeting gullible buyers, Harrington was also able to sell over 1 million of his own fake paintings. Bro, I'm sorry. If it's a painting, it's a painting. How is it fake if I could touch it? And it's real.

[Junior]

Listen, Scott Disick did this a couple seasons ago on Keeping up the Kardashians. He was getting Chris Kris Jenner back for a prank for being an art snob. And he and Chloe made this painting that was just like, trash. He said it was from this. He had. He had like a little inn with this high end art dealer named Art Vandalay, which is actually a character from Seinfeld back.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Seinfeld, yeah.

[Junior]

But she didn't know this. And he said it was from Art Vandalay and she didn't know. And so she thought she was getting something very exclusive because she's bougie and has money to spend. And they did this whole. They played this prank out for like a whole episode episode and then finally revealed there's no Art Vandelay. But while she believed it was Art Vandelay, she thought it was really fancy and worth something. And then when she found out her daughter and Scott Disick did it, then she realized there was no value. So where's the value? I mean, it's all made up.

[AJ Gibson]

It's all made up. That's why you gotta love yourself. You put the value in yourself.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

The beholder.

[AJ Gibson]

Don't let nobody tell you your words.

[Junior]

That's right. That's right.

[AJ Gibson]

I know, I'm. I know.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I just don't think there's any such thing as a fake painting. No.

[Junior]

Why, no, of course there's not. If you can see and touch it, it's real.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yeah, right. It was real to me. So, guys, that brings us to the end of a very fun episode. It's a wild one. There's gonna be a couple double guest episodes coming up. We're getting the energy popping, but as always on this podcast, we ask, where do you want to be found, gentlemen? And anything you'd like to plug?

[AJ Gibson]

Oh, yes, you can find me at Emil Ennis Jr Jr and you can find me on the podcast. Confess your Mess with AJ Gibson over here and y' all can see me on the real and support me on Amazon Live. Yeah, just support your boy in these streets.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Come on. Yes, Find me.

[Junior]

Underscore AJ Gibson, because some woman in North Dakota still has AJ Gibson. Her name is Angela. She won't sell it to me. So underscore AJ Gibson on social media. Also, confess your mess with this guy, my fiance. Listen, I've been trying to buy it, buy her Instagram handle for years, and she only posts pictures of her daughter and her ballet tutus and won't sell it to me. I don't know why. Confess your mess podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Also, I'm the host of a radio show, a national radio show called the Morning Beat on Channel Q Radio, the first LGBTQ plus talk radio station in the country. Wendy Williams, always. And then my book, flipping the script on Amazon. That's a lot of plugs. Damn.

[AJ Gibson]

Yeah.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

And I love it. I love it. I'm proud of us. All the things. Things go to all the places you.

[Junior]

But also mostly just go listen to our pod.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

Yes. It's so good.

[Junior]

If you want more like this, start with Lacy's episode. Start with Lacy's episode.

[AJ Gibson]

Kicked it off.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

I be telling all my business on other people's podcast.

[Junior]

So good.

[Emil Ennis Jr.]

All right, guys, as always, if you want to follow the podcast and see the photos that we reference today on the Instagram that Scam got his pod on all platforms, Twitter, Instagram, Instagram. If you want to follow me, it's D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey on all platforms except for Tick Tock, where I cannot get my name too. There is a child with it. Do not harass that child. I'm Lacy Mosley on Tick Tock. If you just want to look at Mess, because that's really all I put on Tick Tock. And guys, if you want to stitch on your friends and family, just make sure the scam is retired. Scam guys, pod. Gmail.com congregation that merch is still up and popping. Get into it. I'm about to switch it up. I'm about to take some things down, so, you know, get what you want. Now stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Kargbo, engineered by Marina Paiz, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

[Unknown]

This has been a Team Coco production.

[AJ Gibson]

In association with Earwolf.

[Unknown]

Hi there, it's Andy Richter and I'm here to tell you about my podcast the three Questions with Andy Richter. Each week I invite friends, comedians, actors and musicians to discuss these three where do you come from, where are you going, and what have you learned? New episodes are out every Tuesday with guests like Julie Bowen, Ted Danson, Tig Notaro, Will Arnett, Phoebe Bridgers, and more. You can also tune in for my weekly Andy Richter Call in Show episodes, where me and a special guest invite callers to weigh in on topics like dating, disasters, bad teachers, and lots more. Listen to the three Questions with Andy Richter wherever you get your podcasts.

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