Fraud Friday: The Deceitful Disappearing Act w/ Tahir Moore

Summary

Podcast Summary: Scam Goddess Episode: Fraud Friday: The Deceitful Disappearing Act w/ Tahir Moore
Release Date: July 4, 2025
Host: Laci Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Guest: Tahir Moore
Platform: Earwolf

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Introduction

In this episode of Fraud Friday, host Laci Mosley, also known as the Scam Goddess, welcomes back fan-favorite comedian Tahir Moore. Fraud Friday features re-released episodes from the Scam Goddess vault, focusing on intriguing and humorous fraud stories.

Guest Introduction: Tahir Moore

Laci introduces Tahir Moore with enthusiasm, highlighting his accomplishments as a comedian, actor, and influencer. She promotes his podcast Damn Internet and his Everything Bagel Tour, encouraging listeners to catch his live performances.

Laci Mosley [03:05]: "Guys, today we have a returning member of the congregation, and he's back on the show like he never left."

Social Media and Online Interactions

The conversation shifts to the dynamics of social media, particularly TikTok. Tahir shares his frustrations with platform censorship and the challenges of engaging with online audiences without getting canceled.

Tahir Moore [04:10]: "They keep muting my videos."

Laci discusses her apprehensions about TikTok, emphasizing the platform's potential for negativity, especially towards public figures.

Laci Mosley [04:20]: "I'm scared of TikTok... because the girls on TikTok are mean."

Personal Anecdotes on Scams and Financial Struggles

Tahir and Laci delve into personal experiences related to financial struggles and scams. They humorously discuss the temptation of scamming and the impact of financial pressures.

Laci Mosley [12:18]: "You could never be a billionaire, Tahir, because you don't want to be responsible for people's murder."

Tahir reflects on societal issues, criticizing the IRS's focus on middle-income individuals rather than affluent scammers.

Tahir Moore [11:12]: "The IRS is criminally underfunded on purpose so that they can only audit the upper middle class and the middle class."

Scam Highlight: Dontavious and the Shipping Scam

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to recounting the story shared by a caller named Dontavious. He describes receiving suspicious packages with new shipping labels, leading him to investigate a larger shipping scam where victims unknowingly become mules for stolen goods.

Laci Mosley [19:04]: "She sent packages to an unsuspecting person, basically a mule to throw off their own trail."

Dontavious decided not to return the packages, opting instead to keep valuable items, thereby both thwarting the scammers and benefiting personally.

Historic Hoodwinks: The John Darwin Case

The duo transitions to a historical fraud story about John Darwin, known as the "Canoe Man." Darwin faked his death by disappearing while canoeing, only to reappear five years later, revealing an elaborate scheme to secure life insurance and escape debts.

Laci Mosley [24:43]: "When John walked back into the police station claiming amnesia, it was clear his story was fabricated."

They dissect the intricacies of Darwin's plan, including his manipulation of his wife Ann, the use of fake passports, and his eventual capture.

Tahir Moore [27:57]: "He pleaded guilty to charges of obtaining money by deception and passport fraud."

Scammer of the Week: Fairfax, Virginia Case

In the Scammer of the Week segment, Laci and Tahir discuss a recent scam involving the sale of a house in Fairfax, Virginia. The property was marketed for $800,000 with claims of "cash offers only" and "sold as is," despite having an occupant still living in the basement. Multiple offers were secured, highlighting the deceitful tactics used to lure unsuspecting buyers.

Laci Mosley [63:00]: "How you gonna come in and clean a house and then be like, we got squatters' rights now?"

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Laci and Tahir reflect on the nature of scams, emphasizing the need for vigilance and awareness. They encourage listeners to share their scam stories and remain skeptical of deals that seem too good to be true.

Laci Mosley [66:07]: "Stay scheming."

Both hosts promote their respective projects, urging the audience to engage with their content and support their endeavors in uncovering the humorous side of fraud.

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Notable Quotes:

• Laci Mosley [03:05]: "Guys, today we have a returning member of the congregation, and he's back on the show like he never left."
• Tahir Moore [04:10]: "They keep muting my videos."
• Laci Mosley [12:18]: "You could never be a billionaire, Tahir, because you don't want to be responsible for people's murder."
• Tahir Moore [11:12]: "The IRS is criminally underfunded on purpose so that they can only audit the upper middle class and the middle class."
• Laci Mosley [19:04]: "She sent packages to an unsuspecting person, basically a mule to throw off their own trail."
• Tahir Moore [27:57]: "He pleaded guilty to charges of obtaining money by deception and passport fraud."
• Laci Mosley [63:00]: "How you gonna come in and clean a house and then be like, we got squatters' rights now?"

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Final Notes

This episode of Scam Goddess seamlessly blends comedy with true crime, providing listeners with both entertainment and insightful discussions on fraudulent activities. Through engaging storytelling and humorous banter, Laci Mosley and Tahir Moore shed light on the deceptive world of scams, making complex fraud cases accessible and amusing for their audience.

Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Tahir Moore]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Where can people see you to hear more?

[Tahir Moore]

Well, first of all, let me say I'm very impressed that Lacey memorized all of that and she did not read it. That was super impressive, man.

[Lacey Mosley]

The lies, I love it. We started with lies already.

[Tahir Moore]

So the tour is called the Villain Tour is a comedy tour. Me and my homegirl, Ty Davis. Everything Bagel tour is the same domain. Uh, Kev always calls me Everything Bagel and so I just.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, is it because of your freckles?

[Tahir Moore]

It's because of my freckles. So I just went ahead and bought the domain and I had. It just leads to the same website for the ticket. So it's stohearmore.com. so you could just go to either one of those. And everything else is on. On social media. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how it goes. Everything is. I mean, I'm pretty accessible in these streets. You know what I'm saying?

[Lacey Mosley]

And your socials are. Wait, can you drop your handles real quick? I normally don't do this, but your socials are so funny and fun.

[Tahir Moore]

Just to hear more like that, you. You just search the name T A H I R M O on all platforms. It pops up on Facebook, Instagram, Tick Tock. I'm not really on tick. Like, like that. They keep locking my. My. They keep muting my videos.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm scared of Tick tock. I'm on there and like, because of like Carly, like, I. I have a decent following, but, like, I be so scared on TikTok because the girls on TikTok are mean.

[Tahir Moore]

All they want to do is cancel you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, they.

[Tahir Moore]

They be mean and then they cancel you. It's like when people come in, like this one dude, I made a video about Rick Ross buying too many cars. I was like, somebody need to check on him because he's going through what I went through.

[Lacey Mosley]

Too many cars.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, like when you. When you were just stuck in the house, you just be buying stuff.

[Lacey Mosley]

You went through a 20 car phase.

[Tahir Moore]

Well, no, I was buying stuff. I didn't have car money. I was buying 20 shoes, okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

I've gone to stores and bought a lot of things because I was sad.

[Tahir Moore]

I needed something to, like, make me look forward to the next day. And this dude was sitting in my DMs. It was like, yo, you weak. You just wish you had Rick Ross money. I was like, I started the video for saying, I wish I had this money. Like, that's. They, like, people will pick on you. But if you say something back then, people like, oh, you're a bully now.

[Lacey Mosley]

Was this man Rick Ross's cousin or something?

[Tahir Moore]

He was not for Rick Ross. He was just pocket watching. He was just. He's just a Ross fan. I don't know. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's giving billionaire stance.

[Tahir Moore]

He's giving just weird stance, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

And I've said that. I like, look, I don't get how y' all Stan like rich people. Like, what do you do to Stan a rich person? Cause, like, if you stand in an actor or a comedian or a musician or an artist, it's like, yo, you look at their paintings. Oh, you listen to their music and you love to dance. Or, oh, you watch their material. If you stay in a billionaire, what do you just got a photo of Elon Musk up? Do you twerk to his Forbes quotes? What do you do? How does that. How is that fun?

[Tahir Moore]

He got a porch, a picture of Tesla's. Like, all. Every different type of Tesla on his wall. I don't know, man. Like, I just, you know, I just think it's funny when people, they come in my inbox and they. They expect. Because maybe they view me as such a status that I will never respond. But I'll be having time. Okay? I be busy, but I work a lot from home, so if you come at me, oh, baby, let me tell you, Free WI Fi. And I'm gonna snap back hard and vicious like, don't play with me. I don't come at the audience. Like when she said, you can send the audience. He might mess with you. I don't mess with my audience. That's number one. Number two, you run up on the stage, you will get hurt. I have an armed security guard. We've had an armed security guard for the last two years that travels with us.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, wow.

[Tahir Moore]

Armed. Okay. We not knocking people out. He's armed. We pay him very well to be able to carry that pistol everywhere. So just be warned. Yes, absolutely. I ain't got no time to be fighting with nobody.

[Lacey Mosley]

Don't get pew pewned at A cloud?

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. Cause that. That T shirt gonna be hilarious. I'm gonna put you on the tour T shirt. You gonna be part of the marketing.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're put you in the clouds. Don't do wants to be photoshopped into the clouds.

[Tahir Moore]

It's gonna be the GoFundMe tour. I'm gonna change the name of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no.

[Tahir Moore]

Fish Place and jokes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen. Yeah, you're absolutely right, though. It's like, I get it to a certain extent. People have feelings and they want to express them. I'm different from you in that respect. I do not clap back for the most part, at people.

[Tahir Moore]

You got a certain image.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's not even about the image. I just don't want you to feel seen. I won't even block you. I will see your shit and I'll mute you. I won't even block you so you can screenshot it and feel like, I saw your shit.

[Tahir Moore]

Look at God. Look how God be working in your life. I'm too petty. I'm too. I've done this before.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm petty, though. Cause I'm like, you'll never know that I saw this.

[Tahir Moore]

I like that. I take the different approach. I'm more hands on.

[Lacey Mosley]

More hands on.

[Tahir Moore]

I don't. This guy one time, like, cut me off. Like, I had to swerve. Cause he made a left into oncoming traffic into my lane.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know I know the story, right?

[Tahir Moore]

Oh, about me following him home. Yep, yep. I'm still about that life. I'm still out here.

[Lacey Mosley]

And he's behind the paywall. So. I'm so sorry. Y' all stitch a premium. They be robbing us. Use code scam for a free trial. And then you can listen to. Cause it's a very good story. That's why I remember it. That was like, over a year ago.

[Tahir Moore]

Yes, it was.

[Lacey Mosley]

I remember that story. Cause it was funny as hell.

[Tahir Moore]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

But. Which leads me into my first question for you. What's your relationship with scams now? Since you've been on the show before, have any scams happened since? Are you loving a scam in particular? Are you perpetrating a scam yourself? It could be anything.

[Tahir Moore]

Listen, I. I was jealous initially of everybody that scammed the government with those channels.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, that ppe.

[Tahir Moore]

Oh, man. I'm saying. What can we say on the show? I'm saying n words going crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, listen. Oh, we. We swears up in here. This is.

[Tahir Moore]

I'm seeing n going crazy. You hear me buying everything. I'm like, fuck, I missed out on that shit, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

And then did you see Pretty Ricky the Blue.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, and then that started happening. Blue Flame or what? I don't know. None of those guys name no disrespect just wasn't a group that I really followed.

[Lacey Mosley]

I lived in Miami when I. Oh, yeah. But then you had to. So, you know, it's like five in the morning, I'm up having sex with y', all, so. Honey.

[Tahir Moore]

But I was 16. I was like, that is inappropriate.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no. I was so inappropriate as a child.

[Tahir Moore]

So inappropriate.

[Lacey Mosley]

My mom got on me one time because I was listening to say yes by Flowetree. If you know, you know, I was in the car with my parents, and at the end of the song, it'd be like, yeah, let me tell you something. My mom was like, shut up. Stop.

[Tahir Moore]

I didn't know Janet Jackson was that nasty. I missed the Jackson if you're nasty. I know, but here's the thing. I missed the phase. Like, I was like five, six years too late for all the stuff that came out previously. And when I came up, it was like hip hop. So I grew up on. So when I'm going through making old school playlists and I found the warmth of my mouth from Ms. Janet Jackson, I say, hold up, hold up. And then anytime. Oh, Janet has some songs.

[Lacey Mosley]

Anytime, any place. And I love the music video for that because there's like a point where she's outside fucking on the balcony, and there's like an old lady looking from the other balcony. I like that porno. Like, when I was a kid and we would get Skinemax, it would always be skin. We'd be in the base, my uncle's converted garage, and we'd be watching sex Court and all types of shit. And it would be like, oh, they go into the chambers to talk, but they, you know, they gonna be fucking. And then it's always like a stenographer who was looking in the window, she be like, ooh, this is sexual.

[Tahir Moore]

First of all, good job on using all the jargon associated with court. That's not court.

[Lacey Mosley]

You gotta know court when you crime.

[Tahir Moore]

That is true. Number two, I love doing it in public. I am an exhibitionist.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I be bought that Amsterdam and whatnot.

[Tahir Moore]

Well, here's the thing. Amsterdam is different. I tried to go to the red light district. It just feels too transactional to me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, well, that's like they. They're supposed to have, like, clubs too. I just know that I saw one of my teachers, like a. Like a fifth grade or a sixth Grade teacher on. On Real Sex. And the timing really added up because I was like, maybe it's not her. But then the time added up, the shit come back with these clogs. And then she said she was.

[Tahir Moore]

Well, there you have it. Yeah, Amsterdam got some good treats. Hella cheese. And they definitely got them clogs. I did some good shopping in Amsterdam.

[Lacey Mosley]

But back to the scams.

[Tahir Moore]

Yes, scams. So the ppe. I hate that I missed that one, but I'm glad I did. At the end of the day. Oh, they was. They coming to get people still with them scams.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're like, you're not a farmer.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, listen, I mean, it's time for taxes. And I was about to, you know, saying holla at somebody, but then I remember I had already got flagged for that a couple years ago, and then the IRS hit me with a letter that. That just. It wore me down for about. For about two weeks. So I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna. I'm. I've just been good lately.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, look, the IRS is criminally underfunded on purpose so that they can only audit the upper middle class and the middle class, so they don't even go after billionaires for referral because those people can inundate them with paperwork. They can pull up with a U haul of paper paperwork and bury them in out like labor. So they're like, we'd rather get smaller amounts of coins from people that we can audit quicker than actually go after the people who are siphoning the wealth of this country, which is so fucked. Which means that we are the ones that they're going to come after.

[Tahir Moore]

And they do.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's how it is. Oh, indeed.

[Tahir Moore]

And did I am going to get on a billionaire status and just start putting three or four words on each.

[Lacey Mosley]

You could never be a billionaire, Tahir, because you don't want to be responsible for people's murder. I know that you are a sweet man, and if you want to be a billionaire, you have to do a couple of murders.

[Tahir Moore]

That's what everybody says. Everybody says you can't become a billionaire without getting your hand. Get some dirt on your hands.

[Lacey Mosley]

You literally can.

[Tahir Moore]

It has to be some way.

[Lacey Mosley]

Scams. Amazon is covered up. You know how many people die on the job? And they like, sweep, sweep, sweep. They like, get that dirt devil out. Like, ooh, that is wild.

[Tahir Moore]

It's wild. Damn. That's crazy to think there's no good way to become a billionaire. Become that.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. Cause you're hoarding Wealth. At that point, nobody needs to be a billionaire. No one needs a billion dollars in their lifet.

[Tahir Moore]

You don't think you need a billion dollars?

[Lacey Mosley]

Look, could I be cute with a bill? Absolutely.

[Tahir Moore]

You find out with a billion, though. Come on, you got a wig for every room. You walk out of the living room, put on another wig, walk around the kitchen with another. I mean, come on now.

[Lacey Mosley]

If I was a billionaire, I wouldn't even wash my own ass. I have people come scrub me every day, put makeup on me while I'm in bed, laying down straight Dolly Parton looking like a bad bitch at 3am while I'm sleep.

[Tahir Moore]

Like, I would probably get a dick extension just to see what it's like. Because I never wanted, like, I've never wanted to be like a porn store.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just like, that's like a lot of extension from you.

[Tahir Moore]

You know what, here's the thing though. Like, I feel like women do so much. Like, they get, you know, implants and they get the, the butt shots. I just would be interested to see what it's like.

[Lacey Mosley]

So you just do it in solidarity.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, I would. I would do it, you know, to support the ladies. But also I would go back. I would go back. Yeah, but I've been losing weight. I've been doing it the right way. So I've been watching my carbs and calories working out four days a week.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's great. Thank you. But listen, I don't believe in the right way. Look, if you can get a little nip tuck, whatever you can do whatever you want to do.

[Tahir Moore]

I am not above it. I am not above it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Or if, like, we're not fat phobic on this podcast, like, if you love your body no matter what size it is, that's the body that you popping with. And people need to quit playing. Like, America is mostly people who are like, what, like average size is like 14? And then we literally have all these women and men who are like starving themselves. And I know because I have model friends and like, I've, you know, sipped on some sprite flavored poo poo water. Like, they got strategies and it's not healthy.

[Tahir Moore]

I get it.

[Lacey Mosley]

My wife, some people are naturally thin, some people aren't. But I'm just saying, like, if you love your body, fuck with your body. If you want to change something about your body, change.

[Tahir Moore]

I just want to change how my shirts fit. That's it. I want to make sure my, like my shirt right now, that could be.

[Lacey Mosley]

A tailor though, but it could fit.

[Tahir Moore]

Ah, but not for T shirts. I'm not fn to take a 40t shirt. Just go get Taylor. I'm just losing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why not?

[Tahir Moore]

Seven to eight pounds, Lacey. That's all. My wife likes me this size.

[Lacey Mosley]

It takes you longer to do that than it would to tailor the T shirt.

[Tahir Moore]

I get my pants tailored. All of my jeans are tailored. My T shirts. I'm not. My wife likes the size, but I be like, but bitches, though, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

But what do you need bitches? You got a wife, too.

[Tahir Moore]

But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Hear me out. Hear me out.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay?

[Tahir Moore]

Hear me out.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm hearing you out. Cause this is giving me very fuck rhetoric.

[Tahir Moore]

No, no, no. First of all, fuckboy goes along with scam, so you should be impressed with it. That's number one. Number two, you don't want to just look nice to your spouse. You still want to feel attractive. Like, I feel like women think that guys don't like compliments. Y' all don't be giving us shit in the compliment area.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no, I give y' all compliments.

[Tahir Moore]

All y' all say, all ladies say is, oh, you smell good. Ooh, that's a nice noun for you. Y' all never hit a guy like, damn, you handsome as fuck. I like the way your freckles smell good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Maybe because we don't want to sexually harass you because we got couth. Okay, you know what? If I say, you smell good, you can't go to HR and be like, she said I smell good.

[Tahir Moore]

That is.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know what I mean? That's a sick compliment. I can't be like, hate to hear, good to see you. That thang is thanging. Cause it is.

[Tahir Moore]

I absolutely would prefer. That's exactly why I don't wear draws with these thin shorts. Because I want you to see this. Thang. Thanging. You think I'm just working out the body? No, this penis is getting stroked and poked every night. So listen, I have two snicker bars fused into one. The vantage. The vantage that I'm walking around every day with. You understand me? That's exactly what I'm doing it for.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Tahir Moore]

Dontavious.

[Lacey Mosley]

Dontavious. Love it. Love it. So Dantavious says, you know what? Dantavius? I'm gonna read this because it's very short. You said Dontavious says first off, absolutely adore you. Your energy. Chef's Kiss on the scamming. Oh, thank you, Dontavia. Cause some people are complaining that I don't read the nice things, but I read them to myself. Like, why I gotta read nice things about myself to y'? All?

[Tahir Moore]

You wanna hear?

[Lacey Mosley]

It feels like Nene Leakes would say, it feels inappropriate.

[Tahir Moore]

Like, that's a hard law.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why does everyone in Atlanta say inappropriate like that? Like, inappropriate.

[Tahir Moore]

Where did the R go? All of that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Where did the R go? So Dantavia says this happened a few years ago. My partner was looking for work and got a job offer to work from home. They'd ship packages to our house with a new shipping label inside. He checked them, put the new shipping label on, and then send it off. We'd never seen or heard of the scam before, but it felt fishy. Yeah. Cause why you need a middleman in shipping packages? But y' all did it, though.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, they did it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Love that. Dontavious. So I went and checked out the company, looked up their address and phone number. It all looked legit. Real building and everything. But as these packages came in with everything from toys to high end computer parts, that feeling never went away. Yeah. Because why do we need a middleman for sending packages? I did a little more digging and found out that it was a shipping scam where people would steal other people's information and use it to buy these items. They'd ship them to an unsuspecting person, basically a mule to throw off their own trail. Once we caught on and we talked to the post office and the police about what to do with these packages, they both told us to ship them back to the scammers. We said, fuck that, and kept a number of big ticket items, including a new switch and some computer parts, figuring if the cops or anyone wasn't gonna do anything, why should we send these back when we could use them or sell them ourselves?

[Tahir Moore]

Damn. God damn.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now, Tavius, I feel like y' all did the right thing.

[Tahir Moore]

Scam the scammer, scam the scammers.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause they were putting a lot of trust in y'.

[Tahir Moore]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

But at the same time, the scammers already got their coins.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So if the person on the other end doesn't get theirs, then y' all both won. Man, it feels like an equal opportunity scamployment.

[Tahir Moore]

That is. I remember one time I was working at Journeys.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my goodness. You worked at Journeys? Journeys, the sneaker place for. For all of the white children and people who only lived around white children.

[Tahir Moore]

They had some tims. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

They did Some Butters. They would have some pink Tim's.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah. Every now and then they came through with something, but I'm working at Journeys, and this couple comes in. This card looks funny. Looked like a gift card, but it also looked like the swipe part had been basically, I think it's like they took the swipe part off of another somebody else's card and then taped it or glued it. And they was like, oh, it broke in my wallet.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was giving rush card.

[Tahir Moore]

Oh, listen. Big gift card with the credit card swipe energy. So me and my homeboy, they buying up everything. Then I was like, like, all right, cool. You told her. And they was like, go ahead and get y' all something too. And that's when I knew. That's when I knew these got me. But I went in and got me three pair too. I went ahead and did it. It definitely happened. But yeah, it was a whole investigation.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like when anybody says, get something for yourself and they're not a close friend, but no, that's if. If somebody's giving you. If it seems too good to be true, if you can't figure out where the incentive is coming from, listen, I've.

[Tahir Moore]

Missed a lot of vagina, know, because it just seemed too good to be true. Ah, the scams continue.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, you know what? We're gonna move into historic hoodwinks on that note, before either of us put ourselves in a compromising position. Historic hoodwinks. Today we're talking about John Darwin Note up top here. The majority of this research for this article comes from Aubrey Ward's the Times article How I expose the Curious case of the Canoe man, John Darwin, as well as the work of journalist David so shots. Caitlyn. We always like to give our journalist credits here. We'll also credit those articles in the footnotes. If you'd like to visit those articles and read more, share with your friends or fact check. Because some of y'. All. Some of y' all really need the facts to be checked, and we got them for you. So when John Darwin disappeared on a morning Canoe outing in 2002, the world thought he was dead and had left a mountain of debt behind him. When he miraculously reappeared five years later, it was discovered his story was not as simple as a bout of amnesia. So John went missing in March 21st of 2002. I feel like that was, like, a busy time for America. Like 2001. We had nine, 11 in September.

[Tahir Moore]

So, you know, I graduated 2002.

[Lacey Mosley]

From where? Okay, okay. Oh, we're in the Viva Rotten age. I can hear you. 2009. Yeah. So John Darwin, a prison officer and former teacher, took off in his canoe in the Seton Carew on the Co Durham coast of England. Okay. Oh, so we're British. I should have been talking like this the whole time. Witnesses saw him leaving his home to head off towards the mouth of the river. And this is the river teacher, a busy shipping canal. When his wife Ann returned from her receptionist job later that evening, his car was in the driveway, but he wasn't home.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

That could mean a lot of things to a wife.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Was like John stepping out. Was he had. Did he have, you know, a couple toes out the door? Did she think he was with somebody else? She reported her husband missing that evening, which was followed by a large scale search operation. I always have. You ever searched for a missing person?

[Tahir Moore]

I haven't, but that was fast. For. Maybe they do it up fast. I mean different over there. Oh yeah. America's trash. He probably went out of bar drinking. They'll wait forever.

[Lacey Mosley]

We gotta wait eight weeks and then we'll see if she did. Is she black? Oh, then we gonna wait a really long time if it's us. I feel like they go out into the woods. They'd be like, Shaniqua.

[Tahir Moore]

They. They whisper your name out the car.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. She's dead. Guys. Somebody want this ipod we found on the trail? It is hers, but we're not gonna follow the lead. That's why I told my family, I was like, if I go missing, don't tell nobody I'm black.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, there you go.

[Lacey Mosley]

You better say she had a way.

[Tahir Moore]

About her and Lacey.

[Lacey Mosley]

Better say she had a smile that could light up a room.

[Tahir Moore]

That part.

[Lacey Mosley]

She had long Brazilian hair. These are all facts.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. Somebody gonna come out when they need a picture to identify. Wait a minute. All this time I thought she was white. Ah, gotcha.

[Lacey Mosley]

Gotcha, bitch. No play the podcast. Do not tell people I'm black. They will not look for us. For a long time I thought that black people didn't go missing.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then I realized that they just don't look for us.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. They don't report on it.

[Lacey Mosley]

They don't think about it. Every time you get an Amber lit on your phone. When is it a black girl? When?

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's hard out here. So the following morning, a paddle was retrieved from the sea. But John was still missing, so they didn't found one. Paddle. Paddle. He's without a paddle. Four days after his disappearance, the search was called off and it was assumed that he drowned it. I hate that. I mean, it's not wrong statistically for the most part, but it's just like, damn, y' all was just like, okay, well, we don't have to give up. We got other missing people to look at. Hey, man, another blonde white woman is missing.

[Tahir Moore]

They need those bodies. It's like, we gotta get back on the streets. Motherfuckers are running wild. Stealing tea. Is crumpets missing in every goddamn store. We gotta get the police back out here with the batons.

[Lacey Mosley]

So four days after they call it off, it took six weeks for the smashed canoe to wash ashore with no sign of John. And we have a picture of the smashed canoe. I mean, is it that smashed? It looks pretty.

[Tahir Moore]

It's pretty. It's smashed and disheveled. The front of it smashed, so water could have got in and then the side is smashed too. They were saying that they found one canoe. I mean, one paddle. It's only one paddle when you're canoeing. That's why I was like, like, they found the canoe. Cuz I've canoed in the, the marina.

[Lacey Mosley]

Especially if you're working, you don't need two paddles.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. So if he was stuck without the canoe, I mean, without the paddle, he's at that point either way.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he gave, he gave the girls up creek without a paddle by throwing one paddle away immediately. And then look at where the canoe's broken. Like you could easily, like, stomp the thinnest part of it.

[Tahir Moore]

You really could. It's just fiberglass.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then just ship it, you know, back into the river.

[Tahir Moore]

You're gonna ship it, ship it into the river. You went to FedEx, you wrapped it up, you got it waved, put the label on it. And then you was like, yeah, just drop this anywhere along the riverbank.

[Lacey Mosley]

You change the labels and then you just ship it back into the river. That's what it's giving. Okay, so five years. It took five years. On December 7, 2007, John Darwin walked into a police station in London claiming to have amnesia. Now, if you got amnesia, your brain first went to the authorities. Like, I'm not going to the police if I have amnesia.

[Tahir Moore]

First of all, he walked into the police. He walked into the police station with that outfit on. And amnesia. You knew how to be dressed, what you have on. I wanna see five years of that outfit that you got lost in.

[Lacey Mosley]

That outfit is not giving amnesia. Cause you definitely didn't wear that outfit. In the canoe.

[Tahir Moore]

Nah, that's giving me and my side bitch broke up, let me go on home to the old man.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was a hobosexual. So we moved in immediately after we met on single old black.

[Tahir Moore]

Shut up.

[Lacey Mosley]

And like they had their last tea and crumpets and he was like okay, I'm out of my ass. I gotta.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, I gotta do something.

[Lacey Mosley]

So according to John, he could remember his name and that he was from Hartlepool. But otherwise he had no memory of the previous seven years. So no memory of his debt, no memory of him faking his own death, no memory of his crime, no other memory memories. His last memory was of his vacation in Norway in 2000. Convenient because on March 2002 he did so about Anne Ann had met John when she was 11 as school children. They married in their early 20s and had two sons. John had an obsession with making and keeping money and became delusioned with teaching early in his career. I don't know what disillusioned with teaching means like me either. I mean so he liked teaching. I don't know what y' all trying to say. With the help of his young sons, he entered into a slew of money making schemes including breeding African snails to sell to restaurants, painting gnomes. To sell what? Painting gnomes to sell out of the trunk of his car.

[Tahir Moore]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Gnomes are very specific as a thing.

[Tahir Moore]

The garden gnomes. Maybe it's a big thing over there in Britain. You don't know. Maybe the are serious about the. That the garden.

[Lacey Mosley]

They do be on a weird type of time in the uk. Maybe the. Maybe the Brits do love and.

[Tahir Moore]

Wait a second. Can we go back to the kids heads real quick? Like let's just. That's what'll let me know he's crazy. That he's okay with those kids sucking like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

He gave them bow haircuts with a literal bowl. It's giving like a Dixie bowl on top of their head. And then he went around it with some safety scissors.

[Tahir Moore]

I don't trust those fucking kids. Especially that one with that sash. Okay, I will push that little fucker down.

[Lacey Mosley]

What? He was in the community gang scouts. He was in the community gang Scouts.

[Tahir Moore]

Let me tell you something. I'm gonna be honest with you. I pushed the kid today, okay? The motherfucker said I looked like Lisa Simpson and I lost my shoe.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh my God.

[Tahir Moore]

I pushed the fuck out of that kid. He had to be about 5 or 4, but he gonna learn about speaking to adults without raising his hand.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, but Lisa Simpson is kind of funny though.

[Tahir Moore]

It is funny. That's what it was. That's what really made me mad, that it was funny. Like it was that spot on. I was like, what kind of fucking perception does this kid have? You know what he turned around, bow. Just a quick, just a quick, just.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like a little shake, just a little check.

[Tahir Moore]

Look right at 7:11. Right at 7:11 dipped out.

[Lacey Mosley]

My real height is short enough to fight kids. But y' all know I'm five nine. But I am short enough with a weight enough to fight.

[Tahir Moore]

Fight kids.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a fair fight.

[Tahir Moore]

$1 on the ground. When they, they bend down and grab a do, just push the out of them.

[Lacey Mosley]

Gotta be quicker than that.

[Tahir Moore]

Be quicker than that.

[Lacey Mosley]

So with the help of his young sons, he's got all these hustles going on. He's selling gnomes out of the trunk of his car like he's Bruhman. He signed his 15 year old son up to be a door too salesman at the time. John went on to have an affair with one of the company's agents. So he had gotten involved in all these schemes with his kids. And he was like, you're gonna be a door to door vacuum salesman or whatever to his 15 year old son. And then he was like, and I'm gonna fuck the door to door vacuum salesman manager. Wow.

[Tahir Moore]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

How you gonna cheat on your girl like this, John? In the 90s, John acquired 14 properties with visions of becoming a landlord and to collect rentable properties. And we all know if you dream of being a landlord, you do dream of scams. Two of those properties were adjacent homes and Seton Carew. It was actually originally one dwelling that had been split into two. Those still connected through a series of doors and corridors, which is like a kind of common thing. So it' got this place. And he was like, I'm gonna cut it up into two houses. Even though y' all just lock the.

[Tahir Moore]

Door behind you, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Y', all, it's a, it's a Jack and Jill bathroom. Y' all both lock it on both sides. And then now it's two houses. Just never open the door.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, knock before you go in, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

It was also the last property deal that came with an especially large mortgage and left John drowning in debt. So he's buying up these houses because he's like, this is Monopoly. I'm gonna get a house on, you know, all the blue on Boardwalk. I'm gonna get a house on the green shit. What was the broke shit on Monopoly? The brown shit? I don't like that. I don't like that. Why was the brown shit the broke stuff?

[Tahir Moore]

No, Monopoly was created to show the dangers of capitalism by a woman and.

[Lacey Mosley]

Was stolen by a man. Oh, you know? I know.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay, do better, fellas, do better.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then. And that's why, like, if you ever think of capitalism and you think upon it favorably, just remember how nobody can get through a game of Monopoly without a fist fight. I have a scar from Monopoly for my cousin Jamanica. I've said that on this podcast before where we started fighting, because I. I don't know. Somebody was hiding money under the board. The banker was stealing it.

[Tahir Moore]

That was my grandma Tussle. That was my grandma. That was why I called. That's why I never played Monopoly again. I had called my grandma a goofy bitch for putting three $500 bills under the edge of the thing and thinking I wasn't gonna see it. Talking about, could you reach back there and grab something? Every time I turn around, she's grabbing money from under the goddam board. I apologize, I apologize, but I don't like that cheating. This is terrible. Meemaw.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God. See, but capitalism tears people apart. Okay, you don't want to be calling your meemaw a goofy goofy.

[Tahir Moore]

You sit up here with that. Goddamn.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't think I've ever ended a game of Monopoly. We all just get to the point where someone has the monopoly and then we're mad at them and that's it. And that's literally what billionaires are. They're people who have a monopoly and we're mad at them. The game is not fun.

[Tahir Moore]

Everybody like Elon Musk right now, right? Do they, they, they, they, they. Elon Musk is just like Donald Trump in the 90s and early 2000 when Donald Trump was on WW.

[Lacey Mosley]

Companies are actually not failing Donald Trump.

[Tahir Moore]

I hear you, but, like, he's in all the rap songs. They rappers are talking about him. He's everywhere. He's buying up. He just bought Twitter. And now he's like, yeah, we should close Facebook down. He wants to close it down. So Twitter is all we have left. And then he's going to start at a subscription base. I'm telling you, then he gonna run for crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

I think he's gonna end up buying it. Cause he's already starting to backpedal. I don't know when this episode's gonna come out. But, you know, he said he was gonna end world hunger if they could give him a plan. He would give him, you know, $6 billion. He was, like, actually nermind, because nermin. And now, you know, he had a midlife crisis, and he was like, I'm gonna buy Twitter. And it's like, twitter's a money pit, bro. And you're also buying it overvalued. And you're, like, jeopardizing Tesla to do it. Like, what are you doing? And the funny thing is, is, like, this is a scam. Everybody thinks that Elon Musk is an engineer and that he made Tesla and that he made PayPal. He did not. He acquired these things. He's an excellent businessman. I'm not going to take away his genius in business. And being an excellent capitalist, he would definitely win every game of Monopoly. If they did Monopoly, like they do, like poker in Vegas, where you can watch it on tv. You would watch Elon Musk roll the dice and be like, oh, he moving the car. Oh, he passing go, oh, he collected $200. Yes. Like, he. He knows what he's doing. But let's not act like the man makes things. Okay, okay.

[Tahir Moore]

All right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Google it. He ain't make none of them things.

[Tahir Moore]

I got you.

[Lacey Mosley]

He is not a founder. And people don't know this.

[Tahir Moore]

I did not know that. I thought he made. I thought he was part of a team that created PayPal, sold that got rich, and then came up with us. Because I know he had a couple companies where he almost went bankrupt. And then, like, some shit came through right at the end.

[Lacey Mosley]

The branding is just strong. And then they started calling Elon Musk an African American because he from South Africa. And I said, bitch, I have to leave.

[Tahir Moore]

I'm going right there.

[Lacey Mosley]

What?

[Tahir Moore]

Let's stay hard.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not an Africana. You talking about African American. Ihr.

[Tahir Moore]

Let's stay hard.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Tahir Moore]

Well we are winning in audacity we're.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not the number one in education. We're not the number one in quality of life. We're not even the number one in mortality.

[Tahir Moore]

But audacity, plethora of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

We are living off vibes. America's like, we got number one vibes.

[Tahir Moore]

Listen, I hear all of that, but everybody still wants to come over knowing that. Knowing that it is all of those things. People still want to come to the.

[Lacey Mosley]

States because we're a scam country. We operate with confidence. We ain't got no money. We in debt to everybody.

[Tahir Moore]

Ugh. We ain't never paying. Listen, I'm not paying my student loans back until we pay China back. Ain't no fucking way we paying China back. You understand me? China just over there, like, fuck, man. I guess we just lost that shit.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yo, you know what's crazy? I could pay my student loan. I have one loan because I. I went to school on full tuition scholarship, but I had to pay for housing and. Cause my parents, like, we don't want you to work. And I haven't paid it off. Cause I was like, I'm just gonna wait.

[Tahir Moore]

Listen, Joe Biden. What's up, baby?

[Lacey Mosley]

What's good?

[Tahir Moore]

Take me to dinner. You said just gonna take care of that. I paid one off.

[Lacey Mosley]

You said you had us. Yep, my parents paid one off. But then I was like, I'm not paying mine. I'm just gonna. Y' all can have us a little bit every month. I don't give a shit. Like, look, interest my ass.

[Tahir Moore]

I'll pay that shit back when y' all pay China back. And my little money ain't holding y' all up from paying China back. Bitch, you ain't got it right.

[Lacey Mosley]

What you gonna do with my little money? A drop in the bucket. Especially with my taxes. Y' all got enough y' all don't need.

[Tahir Moore]

I'm fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sally, sit your ass down.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay, that's it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he also told Ann. This is John. He told Ann that he would rather fake his own death than deal with the shame of filing for bankruptcy. Okay? Ew. Real hot, girl. Shit. When Ann argued, he threatened, it's either that or I do it for real. So he was like, either you gonna let me fake my. Or I'mma do my death for real. Which I don't think that John was going to do his own death. I think that was just a threat. Because he was like, you better not tell nobody that I fake my own death. So despite his threat, when John disappeared, Ann genuinely believed that he had drowned. After he had been gone for a year. She truly thought he was dead. I don't know if he really thought that. Ann. I think you just realized he told you he was about to fake his own death and you don't want to be implicated. And then he waited five years and didn't say shit. So you were like, yeah, no, I really thought he had been muerto. We had a whole, like, little funeral for him with no casket. Just like a photo on a little memorial.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

With a wreath.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, they put the little two sticks and they put the big photo.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then they have. Yeah. On the easel.

[Tahir Moore]

She said the two sticks go to pay them people their money back. Go and pay them.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's why I should pay them their money back. If I can't remember what easel is, I don't owe the education system nothing.

[Tahir Moore]

That's. That's facts. That's facts.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they put the photo of him on the easel with some flowers, and then they lit some candles and whatnot. Probably put like the little aura in front of it, you know, and put some candles around that, you know. So she was like, we had memorialized him. He was dead, gone. After he had been gone for a year. She truly believed that he was dead. Right. She made claims on the life insurance, the mortgage insurance policies, and it totaled about 250,000 British pounds, which is roughly about US$360,000. In 2006, four years after John's death, she went on vacation to Panama and made the subsequent decision to move her life there. So now she on the run.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

But making it cute, she was like, oh, yeah, I got this little money, but it's cause he dead dead, y'. All. Yeah, he extra dead. So among the reasons she couldn't immediately return to England and return to her husband's side and said she had to stay in Panama to sign her things that were being shipped over from the uk so when he came back, she was like, oh, I'mma come, but we got packages coming. And then they got to go to a third party who's gonna put another label on them.

[Tahir Moore]

Put another label on it.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then when they. Then the label come to me.

[Tahir Moore]

Uh huh.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, UPS in Panama is very slow.

[Tahir Moore]

Very slow. We only got one truck.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's like, what can Brown do for you? K K? Can Brown do para T? You know, and like, it just takes a little longer.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

She also cited immigration issues. Ann gave little more information than that. And her interview with David was public. So getting caught after a photo. The day after a photo surfaced, that changed the narrative entirely. The photo showed Ann and John together next to a real estate agent. But the photo was taken in Panama, dated July 14, 2006, 18 months before John emerged from his amnesia trip. So now they got this photo of them.

[Tahir Moore]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

And this means that he was in.

[Tahir Moore]

Panama the whole time.

[Lacey Mosley]

Probably before he pulled up to the police officers, was like, where am I? Yeah, Is this a police station? I don't know who I am, and I definitely. They don't know who I owe. I definitely don't know who I owe any money here to start my life over. If I can't remember it, it never happened.

[Tahir Moore]

It never happened.

[Lacey Mosley]

Which love that for them. So here they are. Why are y' all taking p. Why are y' all commemorating? Why are y' all commemorating moments when you know damn well you owe people money and you in the wind. Love this for them. Also love that he stuck beside Ann because, you know, they're both older. He could have been trying. Well, I guess Ann had all the money, so he.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He. He wasn't just a real one. He had access to all the accounts. You know what I mean?

[Lacey Mosley]

And she must still love him. That's why she was like, let's take this picture, boo. Cause we get some more real estate, and it's all in my control. So take this picture. We together. We sending this. This is gonna be our Christmas card. How do you send a Christmas card when you supposed to be dead?

[Tahir Moore]

Supposed to be dead. Supposed to be dead. All on the car.

[Lacey Mosley]

Smiling Caesar's greetings from the grave. What's happening?

[Tahir Moore]

From the grave.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just like Jesus.

[Tahir Moore]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

We have risen like, what?

[Tahir Moore]

Couple days, couple years late. But I'm here, I'm here. What's up? What's happening?

[Lacey Mosley]

Jesus did it three. We did it like, five or six.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. You know, hold me out.

[Lacey Mosley]

We're humble. We're not Jesus. So the photo showed them together with this real estate agent. I'm sure the real estate agent put that on his website. He was like, I'm selling properties. But the photo was taken in Panama. We have the timestamp, right? Not only had Ann known her husband was alive long before he resurfaced, but there was proof that he had visited Panama with her when confronted with a damning image and broke down and told her real story to David. According to David, he says she hadn't told anyone the truth in nearly six years, not even her sons. You kept your sons away from they daddy.

[Tahir Moore]

Well, they still had the haircut, so it was very difficult just to look them in the eye. If you got that haircut, it's like, fuck, I can't even. You know what, I'll text you, I'll text you in a minute.

[Lacey Mosley]

If you give your sons that haircut, this then hearing that their dad just fake disappeared is the least of their worries. Yeah, ever like they be like, that's fine. Now can we go to great clips?

[Tahir Moore]

Please help us, please and thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

So understandable. So an came out and was like, I know he was alive. In fact, they had been living in their house unbeknownst to either of their two sons. So they. They must not like their kids. Their kids must have had bad vibes. Cuz I feel like my parents would tell me if they faked their own death and went to Panama. Sometimes kids have bad vibes. But I feel like their kids must have bad vibes if you just were living in Panama and didn't tell nobody. According to Ann, it wasn't until a year after his disappearance and after she made the life insurance claims that he showed up and she learned that he was alive. So now she's trying to put a timeline on it. Like, well, after I had talked to Allstate and they had said I was in good hands, then after the hands, you know, were good to me, maybe a year later, I realized he was still alive. So that's trying to put together a timeline.

[Tahir Moore]

Like, yeah, I didn't know the check was already cut. What was I supposed to do?

[Lacey Mosley]

What was I supposed to do? Not deposit it.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause he was alive. She took John back in on his threat that if she went to the police, he would tell them that she was an accomplice to the disappearance. So she's trying to act like he blackmailed me too. And like he said he was gonna take me both down if we didn't. And I don't know if she's lying about that. Cause John kind of gives me the energy that maybe he would. But at the same time, it's like if this. You're a smart. I think this woman's smart.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you moved out of. You extradited yourself out of the uk. You had to have known that he faked his death the entire time.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely she did.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you didn't want to be poor either. You were like poor.

[Tahir Moore]

It's not what I signed up for.

[Lacey Mosley]

Using change again.

[Tahir Moore]

The coin that I'm not what I signed up for.

[Lacey Mosley]

John, we'll have to start budgeting. No. So. And thus they conducted their lives in secret for the next four years. That's kind of sexy. Sexy. I feel like that's kind of spicy. Like, that would definitely spice up my marriage. You know, everywhere we go, we worried about getting caught.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. Looking over your shoulders, that would give me ulcers. I would be so stressed out and so anxious all the time. I would have ulcers all over me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Really?

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like I would be like the U.K. bonnie and Clyde. Like, what would that be like? Chipping.

[Tahir Moore]

I'm more better by myself.

[Lacey Mosley]

Chipping. S. I don't know what Bonnie and Clyde is.

[Tahir Moore]

I don't know British names. Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Turvington and Willowbrook.

[Tahir Moore]

No, I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

It sounds sexy to me. I'm into it. So when anyone visited. This is like flower in the attic. What? So when anyone visited the house, John would go to the next door home through one of the hidden doors For a time. He was essentially a housebound hermit. He spent most of his time playing online role playing games like EverQuest while conducting online affairs with American women. So he's still cheating?

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Online, yeah. How dare you?

[Tahir Moore]

You gotta do something with the time. That's a lot of time to just be in the house doing nothing. You gotta, you know, create the fantasy.

[Lacey Mosley]

So you out of jail and you trying to cheat on me with bitches on sims.

[Tahir Moore]

Well, I mean, he just, he's a hermit. He ain't got nothing. She can go out, go to the. Go to the market, go to a ball game. Yeah, that's his cave. That's his man cave.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. He was very much living a Quasimodo lifestyle.

[Tahir Moore]

Absolutely.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. I guess you gotta let people cheat on video games.

[Tahir Moore]

You gotta let me do like, you know.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Tahir Moore]

I ain't never gonna be none of these women.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, that's probably how he felt. He's like, I live like Harry Potter. Which J.K. rowling's a turf, so fuck out of here. But yeah, it's giving. It's giving. Closet.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, God. Another terrible person reference. But trapped in the closet. R. Kelly, a horrible person, but that's what the closet's giving. So he was playing these video games, he's flirting and living, you know, online affairs. Eventually he grew his hair and beard long and went outside wearing a limp. Limp with a cane and escaping recognition. Okay, so he just thought that, like, he would look different if he had a limp. Yeah, I don't think that's how looking different works. Yeah, I don't think that's how looking different works. I don't think you can just fake an ailment and then you look different. But he did get a beard, so maybe he thought. And also it's Panama. Like, who's looking at this white man in Panama? I feel like he could have been going out the whole time. I don't know who's on the most one.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, no, I'm not checking like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

I couldn't tell you right now who's on it.

[Tahir Moore]

But I honestly.

[Lacey Mosley]

And they have rule honestly. Does somebody make that their hobby, like lottery scratch offs, they just check the wanted list and just are looking around every day real hard trying to catch somebody.

[Tahir Moore]

I feel like they probably kept an eye on her when she extradited herself out of the British. Like, I think somebody was probably like checking in every so often.

[Lacey Mosley]

Probably also because her kids have not been communicated with for four years.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

If you don't tell your kids that their dad is alive for four years, you definitely aren't seeing that.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, absolutely not. So, yeah. Why does this picture look so old? This. If he left in 2002, why is this like from the 1965? Like, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

It's giving. 1939, it's giving. He had to pose for one hour to get the photo.

[Tahir Moore]

That part.

[Lacey Mosley]

And somebody was like behind the camera with the little thing on.

[Tahir Moore]

We still like.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's giving sistile for this painting.

[Tahir Moore]

It's giving Transylvania vibes. Damn it.

[Lacey Mosley]

John, John, why? And why are y' all taking so many pictures? For criminals. Y' all love to flick it up. They were like, we still gotta have our memories. Like, don't do it for the gram when you're doing it for the crime. Like, what are you doing? That's too much. So in the meantime, Ann continued to cash out on the outstanding insurance policies and sold the other properties. John later used a dead child's identity, Jon Jones, to create a fake passport. Not his child, but somebody else's child. So at one point, John and Anne's relationship became so tense that she encouraged him to meet Karen Steele, the American woman he had been flirting with online the previous year. She was like, go out there and meet them other hoes you basement. I don't care. Like, she was over it. He showed up to her home in Kansas undressed immediately, in full view of her and her family, and was promptly kicked out. Now, so, sir, just cause y' all talked online doesn't mean you get booty naked when you meet somebody does that. Who does that? Who does that?

[Tahir Moore]

Who Comes in like, hey, how you guys doing?

[Lacey Mosley]

Time to get. All right, let's cut to the chase. Like, what?

[Tahir Moore]

Here's this dick y' all ain't meeting.

[Lacey Mosley]

In no hotel room. And this is like old on the run, crinkly. I fake a limp dick.

[Tahir Moore]

Well, that's crazy easy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Still, she hoped to keep the relationship professional and agreed to a fifty thousand dollar joint purchase of a parcel land with a dilapidated farmhouse. So basically, Karen was in on this because they started talking online and she was like, oh, you got coins. Like, let's get together and do business. He was like, let's get together and get to the business.

[Tahir Moore]

Get to the business.

[Lacey Mosley]

And she was like, no, let's just do the business. John was angry at being rejected and his lack of immediate return on his investment. And so went back to the uk, where he sent Karen threatening emails. Always good to say. And threats via email. Not.

[Tahir Moore]

Because that's not, that's not traceable.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. At all. Right. The venture gave John the idea to travel to Panama with Ann for another property investment. Their goal was to create an eco retreat out of parcel of land in an apartment they had purchased with their insurance funds. If they hadn't been entirely incompetent from the beginning, it would have worked. But after buying the property in Panama, John discovered he needed a letter of good conduct from his UK constabulary. No, UK local police, basically, to become a Panama railway president, which would be difficult because he was in a country with a false passport, right. So he's doing crime. So he can't get a, you know, he can't get the police to be like, oh, yeah, he's a good guy, he's a good bloke because they're literally looking for him. That's when he told Ann, I'm going back and I'm gonna say I had a bump on the head and got amnesia. Also money amnesia. So I don't need to pay you anything because I forgot about it. I'm. I'm gonna have money amnesia anytime I borrow money after this, right? Then he believed he could get the letter of good standing. So he thought by going to the police station in the beginning, he could finesse them into being like, oh, this is a good guy. He just like forgot everything that he did and all his crimes, but he just need a good letter. I feel like in the UK that probably is a place you could do that.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, you could finesse it if you do it right. You can't walk into a police station dressed to the tee. Like, you gotta look dilapidated like, you gotta be found on the water on a raft dilapidated.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause you got to look like you got coins so that they'll back you for what you want.

[Tahir Moore]

But here's the thing. Like, he went back to the police station in his hometown, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Tahir Moore]

So you got to be found on a raft made of soda bottles.

[Lacey Mosley]

He should have went and got the raft or at least got that paddle, that one paddle back. And then just walked in with that paddle, still paddling it like he in the wood.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, he should have lost weight and everything. He didn't play. If I would have went in that malnutrition, I would have been passed away.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why you don't got a volleyball with a face on?

[Tahir Moore]

What's his name? Samson? No, not Samson. Was it Samson?

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't remember what Mr. Castaway's name was. But you got to come in with. Oh, Wilson. You got to come in with Wilson. You got to be talking to that ass.

[Tahir Moore]

This is my only friend that would have. That would have sold it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Stuck Wilson on top of the paddle and then walked in with the paddle erect like Wilson was a person.

[Tahir Moore]

That would have worked.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. It's just like. It's just been me and my homeboy this whole time out on the water.

[Tahir Moore]

And have conversations with him the whole time. You the police. I. I told him everything. What are you talking about? Money.

[Lacey Mosley]

What money? I don't owe any money.

[Tahir Moore]

H wasted the opportunity also.

[Lacey Mosley]

An you down bad. Stand up. Stand up. An like, how dare you? You had all this man's money. You're the only legally alive one in this relationship. Why are you with him especially? Cuz he can't even stop cheating on you while he in the basement. He even got good WI fi down there. He managed to cheat on you. How you gonna let somebody cheat on you with, like, a old school radio? How you let somebody cheat on you with Morse code?

[Tahir Moore]

That dial up. That's solid, though. That dial up. Ain't no phones in the house, so nobody interrupting the Internet service. It's fire ass. Dial up.

[Lacey Mosley]

So getting caught after Ann's confession to an intrepid journalist, David Lay, the jig was up. And I'm glad that you snitched. Like, sometimes I think snitches can sometimes get stitches, but sometimes you gotta be a stool pigeon. You just gotta get out there and sing. You gotta be like that Whitney Houston iconic video where she's like, Regina Martin Kare Ulysses. You just gotta start saying all the names, okay? You gotta turn into the DMX song and be like, cookie, I Thought I had an ice cream.

[Tahir Moore]

Paula.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, give it up. Give em up. So by the time their fraud was discovered in December 2007, the couple had amassed more than £500,000 while waiting on the sale of their Seton carry dwelling to proceed. John was arrested three days after re entering the world. And after some questioning about alleged fraud, he eventually dropped the amnesia narrative and pleaded guilty to charges obtaining money by deception and passport fraud. Oh, and there he is getting carted off the jail. Now, when we put these photos on Instagram, I want you to see what this man looks like and how offensive it would be if he walked into your home and stripped down to his peen. I would be so angry. This is not. Look, we're all gonna get older. If we're lucky, our bodies are gonna change. We might shit gonna start hitting the floor, you know, things gonna start hanging low and wobbling to and fro. Cool. But you can still fuck if you owe. I love that. I wanna be fucking when I'm old, but it's gonna be like the Notebook. We gonna take off our clothes real slow. Or maybe we do it through a sheet or maybe, you know, like, I'm.

[Tahir Moore]

Definitely never gonna strip booty naked in my living room.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, in somebody's living room. That's wild.

[Tahir Moore]

That's wild as hell.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like you can only do that if you are like a stripper that people called and were like, this is what we want you here for.

[Tahir Moore]

You know, Bless his heart.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. If you do sex work and you got a bad body and you look great and people called you for that specific thing, then get booty naked. But not. Not this man. Yeah, he was wild for that. He has a lot of audacity.

[Tahir Moore]

A lot of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

And what the hell is he wearing? Is that like aostle? What is this sweatshirt?

[Tahir Moore]

They, they made him change clothes. They was like, you got to take that stupid off. And then they gave him that. It was something somebody had left.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, this why Abercrombie went down, cuz. What is this sweatshirt? What is it?

[Tahir Moore]

That's a wild ass story too.

[Lacey Mosley]

So eventually he's like, I did it. I did it all. Everything. So she pleaded not guilty to charges of deception and money laundering. But even her own sons testified against her. See, that's where you up. You knew your kids had bad vibes and you didn't turn them into the authorities and you didn't help them. And you did. You disappeared for four years, so now they hate you. So they came and. Oh, her sons look like stool pigeons. Look at their Faces. They don't look like people who would ever honor their mother and father. They said, honor thy mother and thy father. Girl, we. We don't read about.

[Tahir Moore]

Listen, it's cuz y. Y' all had them walking around with them haircuts for that long. They probably got 45 pictures with them dumbass haircut haircuts.

[Lacey Mosley]

If my kids ruined my. Or if my parents ruined my childhood with a haircut like that, I think I would have to.

[Tahir Moore]

Oh, yeah, we squabbing. I'm gonna box my pops out.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, we gonna have to tussle.

[Tahir Moore]

Get the squabbles going, my boy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sorry, sis. So both John and Ann Darwin were convicted and sentenced to six years in jail. Ann's compulsive lying in quotes earned her a spot in a maximum security prison known for housing infamous serial killers like Rosemary west and Tracy Connelly. Okay, come on now, y'. All. She just moved to Panama and cashed in some insurance. She did some paperwork. Why? To go to the pokey. That. That feels like a lot.

[Tahir Moore]

To the pokey.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like that's a lot. And didn't deserve that. She already was dealing with a cheating ass. Trifling ass. Man. She's been punished her whole life.

[Tahir Moore]

She continued to deal with him like she did.

[Lacey Mosley]

If she had left him alone and really pretended that he was dead, she would not be culpable for any of this.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cuz. Plausible deniability. She could have just been like, I thought he was dead. Like, I saw the paddle like everybody else. I had the memorial with the paddle. Y' all saw the candles.

[Tahir Moore]

Y' all saw it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I went and got glade and everything. Y' all saw the candles. Y' all saw the vigil. We took photos. Yeah. No. And you played. You was down bad. You can't. You can't go full Monica. Okay. New Monica. If you know, you know. But you can't. You can't be that down for nobody. Okay? Can't go. You can't go to Monica.

[Tahir Moore]

So go over you.

[Lacey Mosley]

What she said.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Your girl was gonna ride or die. Ride or die. She meant that shit. No. Sometimes you got to get off the ride.

[Tahir Moore]

You gotta get off full of emerg. Get up off of there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, you should have done a better thing. I would leave. No, you should have known better than think that I would stay. Okay. No way. No way. So when their sons discovered that their father had been hiding and their mother had been lying to them for years, they were devastated and eventually broke off contact. Now, I think that they probably broke off contact because they were like. So y' all had coins this whole time and y' all were living it up in Panama and you weren't gonna send us no coins? You just left us to our own devices, like fucking y', all. You know? Y' all see these kids, they got entitlement.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, you can see it all on my face. Smug ass.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, Lord Jesus, where are Ann and John now? This is different, right? Like, three years, we ain't never had no like this. I know, I know, but. So Anne was released and got a job at the rspca. Not her. Fighting for the animals now and throwing paint on people. An animal Where Animal. An animal welfare charity. I'm. I'm gonna stick with that. She has since retired and lives in rural Y. Ann has since reconciled with her sons and divorced John in 2011. Girl, that's too late, Ann. That's way too late. Perhaps due to his sentiments, such as, this is a quote from John. No one is queuing up for a woman like you, Ann. There weren't when I married you, and they certainly wouldn't be now. Now, John, I know you ain't talking when you got that rankly ass dick out in somebody's living room. Talk about ain't nobody checking for Ann. Ann was cuter than you. Bye, John. John reportedly never apologized to his sons who remain estranged from him. On Darwin lists his favorite quote as, live life to the fullest each day and have no regrets. John Darwin. And I think he needs to tack on and fuck them kids.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah. FTK all day.

[Lacey Mosley]

FTK all day. Gang, gang, listen. He had the kids. That was it. He said, after that, I'm done.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

After his release, he was rearrested in 2013.

[Tahir Moore]

Damn time.

[Lacey Mosley]

I can't stop doing crime. He said, can't stop, won't stop. So he breached his probation by traveling to the Ukraine to visit an online girlfriend friend. John, you also out here just chasing tail too much. You never go make money that way.

[Tahir Moore]

Never.

[Lacey Mosley]

In a recent interview, Mercy said that John was on his way to the Ukraine to join troops fighting against Russian forces. So now he didn't try to turn him going to Ukraine into him fighting against Russia.

[Tahir Moore]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow. He later moved to the Philippines to marry a woman named Mercy May, who was 33 years younger than him. She also said he will have a bulletproof vest and good life insurance. Good for me. So whoever this Mary May is, she was like, look, he got enough money for me. Oh, she cute. Mary, have you not heard of 90 Day Fiance. You could have did way better than this. You really could have ate sis. Hey listen, you settled Mary, you cute. Why would you do this? Or Mercy Mercy. Oh mercy. Mercy me.

[Tahir Moore]

He never stopped. Kept her to the end.

[Lacey Mosley]

He really was. He must have some good talk game or money. Does he have money though?

[Tahir Moore]

He probably had money that Ann didn't know about.

[Lacey Mosley]

He must have cuz he survived for like what like four or five years before he got back where.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. So he probably had money that and didn't know off in a Panama account, something like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn Mercy. You still could have did better though. You could have been Lamborghini Mercy if you had just stepped your up that part. All right guys, it's time for the end of the show. Sad part of the show we have to let to hear go scammer of the week. So this week we're talking about a home in Fairfax, Virginia that was put on the market for $800,000 with an occupant still in the basement. We got a whole basement theme going this episode. Love that. For us, the house was listed with a text reading cash offers only. No access to see lower level and home is sold as is only with acknowledgement that the home will convey with persons living in the lower level. With no leasing any. I mean the housing market is wild right now. Like I I was looking for a home and bank of America was like you're pre approved. Now do you want to tack on a half a million so you can fist fight people in the front lawn? Yo, how strong are you? Are you Liam Neeson strong? Do you have a special set of skills? That's the only way you go get a home right now.

[Tahir Moore]

Yo, I'm selling this house cash only and you can never go in the basement. And they're going to continue. They're going to continue to live in the basement. No lease option. Boom. That's just what it is.

[Lacey Mosley]

Have you seen the movie us? There will be a tethered family. You listen in the basement.

[Tahir Moore]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

And what you gonna do? So despite there being an actual like actual human still living in the home, the house was received at least five offers and was placed under contract for a bit above asking price. There is reportedly also significant work required on the inside of the home. So they're selling this over asking. There are people who live in the basement and also the roof gonna fall in as soon as you in escrow. Yeah, that's a lot.

[Tahir Moore]

That's a lot.

[Lacey Mosley]

With the cash offer, no lender was involved, so the title could be transferred immediately. Even with the tenant still on the premises. It's unclear who the buyer is, though. It's alleged that the tenants were hired to clean the home, but never left. Who is scamming who here? How you gonna come in and clean a house and then be like, we got squatters rights now?

[Tahir Moore]

That's probably why they sold it like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

How you coming in with pine saw and now you like, we own it all.

[Tahir Moore]

The people. The people that. So did they. They were already dealing with the squatter, so they was like, I'm getting rid of this, right? And I was like, it's somebody else's problem now.

[Lacey Mosley]

Can you imagine how scary your squatters are if you just move, man? Have you seen Ozark?

[Tahir Moore]

I haven't finished it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So if you've seen the beginning, this is not spoil, y'. All. They deep into it. But then they move into a home in the Ozark, and it was like an old man.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah. They rented from him. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's giving Ozark, like, you just got to let me die. You can have house.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's different, to say the least. That's different.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's different.

[Tahir Moore]

God bless.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, Howsenburg is crazy, so maybe nowadays you got to take a little asbestos, so you got to take a little family that lives in your basement.

[Tahir Moore]

It should be better.

[Lacey Mosley]

At least you got a home.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's more than most millennials can do. Okay, yeah, so what? A family lives in your basement. You got a home. You. You complaining about?

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. What you complaining about? About broke, boy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Buy less avocado toast if you don't want people living in your home when you buy it. Ghetto.

[Tahir Moore]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

All right. Well, Tahir, that brings us to the end of a fantastic episode. And we always ask, where would you like to be found? Anything like you promote plug socials, Anything?

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah, man, just go to the website to hear more.com or everythingbageltour.com grab tickets. I'm doing 10 cities. It has 10 cities right now. We got. Let's see, Sacramento. We're doing one this actually the end of May. And then what are the other dates? We got Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, Huntsville, D.C. indianapolis, St. Louis, Dallas, Baltimore, Philly, New York. We pulling up on you, you know, I mean, so you can find all the dates on my website or you can go to my Instagram. I'm usually always posting about the tour. If you know somebody that's in that city, yo, pull up. You know, tell some. Tell your people to come through. You know, saying, don't just hear about it or see it and don't tag somebody, man. Like, that's how we make it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So we'll take a screenshot of that, and we'll post that on the Instagram story. Some of these tour dates. And y', all, he says he's posting about the tour, but he's a scammer because the way that he be tricking people, it'd be a whole comedy thing. It'd be a whole TikTok joke. It'd be a whole something. And then at the end, it'd be like, come to the tour.

[Tahir Moore]

Yeah. Cause you gotta keep people engaged. If they just see the flyer, they're gonna dip immediately. So I had to come up with a witty quick something and then get you in and then be like, boom. By the way, bitch, knock, knock, tool. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's a whole thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, y guys, as always, snitching your friends and family at Scam got his [e-mail]. y' all be DMing me. I told y', all, that's not how you reach me, okay? Call me, beat me, email me if you want to reach me. Send those scam stories to the email. You can screenshot your tweets or DMS or whatever and send it to the email. I talk to people on Twitter, and I, you know, I will engage with you on the Scam Goddess pod Instagram as well. I'm gonna try to be better about posting these things on time, but y' all know I like to be late because it's. It's a condition, and y' all need to stop shaming me, okay? It's a condition that I'm fighting every day. Being late. It's called time disease. Thank you. Okay, I live by the sundial. I live by the vibes, okay? And that changes all the time with the seasons. And if you want to find me, D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey. On all platforms. Season two of iCarly is streaming right now. Season two of a black lady sketch show is the one that I'm on if you like to see my face or if you want my profiles. It's all the same, except for on Tick Tock, where I'm Lacy Mosley. Copy, Congregation, y' all in that basement. Stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargbo, Engineered by Marina Paiz and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay Scheming.

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