Fraud Friday: The Fake Heiress at Mar-A-Lago w/ Kimia Behpoornia

Summary

Podcast Summary: Scam Goddess - Fraud Friday: The Fake Heiress at Mar-A-Lago w/ Kimia Behpoornia

Released on January 31, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley (also known as the Scam Goddess) welcomes comedian and actress Kimia Behpoornia for a lively discussion centered around fraud, personal scams, and a fascinating historical caper involving Mar-A-Lago. True to the show's blend of comedy and true crime, Laci and Kimia delve into both humorous anecdotes and serious fraudulent activities, all while maintaining a lighthearted banter.

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Personal Scams and Experiences

Kimia’s Craigslist Disney Scam
Kimia shares a personal story about attempting to surprise her wife's mother with Disneyland tickets. Facing financial constraints, she turned to Craigslist and was deceived by a scammer claiming to have extra tickets due to an aunt's unforeseen hospitalization.

• Quote:
  Kimia Bornoia [06:25]: "So I was trying to go to Disneyland because my wife's mom was cancer free, and we were like, wow."

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [07:04]: "But too many. All you gotta say is, I got tickets."

This experience highlights the common red flags in online scams, such as unsolicited offers at discounted rates and emotionally charged stories to lower the victim's guard.

Navigating Personal Challenges and Loss
Laci opens up about her struggle with vertigo, detailing an embarrassing incident where she ended up in the emergency room after a severe vertigo attack. The conversation touches on the stigma surrounding medical emergencies and the often impersonal nature of healthcare interactions.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [17:08]: "If I'm gonna avoid my bowels. Not on the toilet. It's definitely in an ambulance. This is an emergency. We in an emergency pool."

Workplace Dynamics and HR Challenges
Laci recounts her experiences with difficult workplaces and challenging managers, emphasizing the emotional toll of unjust firings and the complexities of human resources dynamics.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [29:23]: "And then I went to another restaurant, short term, which was also high end, but it was privately owned and they didn't know what the fuck they were doing."

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Historic Hoodwinks: The Fake Heiress at Mar-A-Lago

The centerpiece of this episode is the detailed exploration of a sophisticated scam involving Anna de Rothschild, a fake heiress who infiltrated former President Donald Trump's Mar-A-Lago estate.

Background and Entry into Mar-A-Lago
Anna de Rothschild, a Russian-speaking immigrant from Ukraine, posed as a wealthy heiress with connections to the affluent Rothschild family. Her entry into Mar-A-Lago was marked by appearances alongside high-profile figures like Donald Trump and Senator Lindsey Graham.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [36:38]: "Anna de Rothschild, a Russian speaking immigrant from Ukraine whose father was a truck driver from Illinois."

Sophisticated Fraud Tactics
Anna utilized deepfake technology to impersonate Mark Ruffalo during video calls, building a deceptive relationship with Chick Eye Adei, a 74-year-old manga artist. This manipulation led Chick to invest significant sums, believing she was in a genuine romantic relationship.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [65:08]: "So she was first approached in 2018 on Facebook by a man claiming to be Mark Ruffalo."

Use of Charitable Organizations for Money Laundering
Anna became president of the United Hearts of Mercy, a charity that ostensibly aimed to help impoverished children. However, investigations revealed that the charity was a facade for funneling funds to Russian organized crime groups.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [45:00]: "And there's no evidence that either charities did any work for impoverished children. And a certified public accountant hired by the charity has alleged it was actually a source of funds for Russian organized group."

Exposure and Legal Ramifications
The scam unraveled when Dean Lawrence, a Florida music creative director, recognized Anna from their previous professional interactions. This recognition led to increased scrutiny and eventually an FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago, uncovering Anna's fraudulent activities and the misappropriation of funds.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [56:12]: "So a court dispute erupted last year with her former business partner, who in response, has since released information about the details of her other business activities."

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Analysis of Scamming Techniques

Celebrity Impersonation and Trust Exploitation
The use of deepfake technology and impersonation of celebrities like Mark Ruffalo showcases the evolving sophistication of scams. By leveraging recognizable figures, scammers can build instant trust and manipulate victims more effectively.

• Quote:
  Kimia Bornoia [63:35]: "A manga artist scammed out of 75 million yen by a scammer who claimed that he was Mark Ruffalo."

Leveraging Charities for Financial Deceit
Charitable organizations often enjoy tax-exempt status, making them attractive vehicles for money laundering. The lack of stringent oversight allows scammers to mask illicit activities under the guise of philanthropy.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [44:45]: "They were like, oh, yeah, the kids are hungry, y'all. We gonna get them food and snacks and whatnot."

Exploitation of Personal Relationships
Scammers often exploit personal relationships, as seen in Anna's manipulation of Chick Eye Adei, to extract financial support under false pretenses. Emotional manipulation combined with false identities makes victims more susceptible to deception.

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Lessons and Insights

Vigilance Against Impersonation
The episode underscores the importance of verifying the identities of individuals, especially in online interactions. Double-checking through official channels can prevent falling prey to impersonation scams.

• Quote:
  Lacey Mosley [68:17]: "Your first question should be, why do you need money from me?"

Awareness of Charitable Scams
Donors should research charities before contributing, ensuring that the organization is legitimate and that their funds are used appropriately. Transparency and accountability are key factors in determining the legitimacy of a charity.

Emotional Red Flags
Scams often involve emotional manipulation, whether through romantic relationships or urgent financial needs. Recognizing these emotional cues can help individuals avoid making impulsive decisions that lead to financial loss.

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Conclusion

In this episode of Scam Goddess, Laci Mosley and Kimia Behpoornia blend humor with critical insights into the world of fraud and scams. From personal anecdotes about deceptive online offers to the intricate tale of a fake heiress infiltrating Mar-A-Lago, the episode serves as both entertainment and a cautionary tale. Listeners are encouraged to stay vigilant, verify identities, and approach charitable contributions with due diligence to protect themselves from falling victim to similar schemes.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Kimia Bornoia [06:25]: "So I was trying to go to Disneyland because my wife's mom was cancer free, and we were like, wow."
• Lacey Mosley [07:04]: "But too many. All you gotta say is, I got tickets."
• Lacey Mosley [17:08]: "If I'm gonna avoid my bowels. Not on the toilet. It's definitely in an ambulance. This is an emergency. We in an emergency pool."
• Lacey Mosley [36:38]: "Anna de Rothschild, a Russian speaking immigrant from Ukraine whose father was a truck driver from Illinois."
• Lacey Mosley [56:12]: "So a court dispute erupted last year with her former business partner, who in response, has since released information about the details of her other business activities."
• Kimia Bornoia [63:35]: "A manga artist scammed out of 75 million yen by a scammer who claimed that he was Mark Ruffalo."

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Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Kimia Bornoia]

Hi, Ulacey.

[Lacey Mosley]

How's it going, my black queen?

[Kimia Bornoia]

No, don't you dare. I knew I was gonna come on here. You're gonna do some shit like this. Please, no. They said I could ask for anything edited out. And if you do this, I will ask for these rumors.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's not getting edited out. I get a veto, and it is. Look, Kimia and I have a running bit that she's black, and it's not a bit. She hasn't given me her 23andMe yet.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I'm not gonna do.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not sure. We're not sure. If you see. You're gonna see a photo of her, and then y'all all gonna come on and be like, yeah, she is black. And also, I have seen. I have spotted Kemia at auditions years past.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I have to hear this story one more time.

[Lacey Mosley]

At auditions years past. Kimia, like, I'm not black. I'm Persian. I'm Persian. This curly ass hair, and I'm like. In these Negro features and these full lips and this curly hair, I'm like, okay, sure, sure, you're not black. We had the commercial audition, and Kimmy's like. I was like, why you here? Cause this is a black family audition. She's like, no, they just call me in da da d. Okay. Kimi's like, no, I'm not here with the black people. I'm here just, you know, as a whole kinds of whatever. Yeah, they call everybody, right? So we're like, okay, cool, cool. Sure, sure, sure. Then the casting directors come up, and they're like, oh, Kimia, here. Here's your family. All Negroes. That's not my fault.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's not my fault. You know, they don't talk to us actors, and commercials are just like little roaches.

[Lacey Mosley]

Everyone asks me nothing black or to black. And Kemya got up, and she went into that audition, y'all. Cause she knows she black, so. Mm. Mm. I don't understand the veh denying of the blackness. Being black is great.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I know that's not my denial here. I think you're just erasing how Iranian I am.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, you can be Iranian in black. Look at the Kardashians.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This is.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just kidding. They're Persian.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No, they're Armenian.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're Armenian. You're right. Yeah.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Whatever they're doing is.

[Lacey Mosley]

But them kids, I don't know, you look like you could be one of the kids.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I could look like I could be a Kardashians kid. If you saw me on the Kardashians, wouldn't you freak out? You'd be like, that doesn't belong.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nope, nope. And I'm looking at the booth, everybody laughing. Look at Jessica. Look at Jessica laughing as if they agree.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, okay, well, I'm still here in.

[Lacey Mosley]

A gold chain with the curliest hair, talking about, she don't know that she black.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You told me once that you buy Persian women's hair for your hair.

[Lacey Mosley]

I actually buy Brazilian women's hair.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, you must have changed. You must have upgraded or downgraded.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not sure, but no, it's all great. It's all great. But that's normally where my hair comes from if I'm purchasing follicles. Okay, you are. Look, you are all those things. Thank you. You are every woman. It's all in you. Queen who sings I'm every black woman. There we go.

[Kimia Bornoia]

All right, so that's not evidence against me that that person sings that song against.

[Lacey Mosley]

See? See what I'm talking about? No.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, well, I should just stop.

[Lacey Mosley]

So we always ask on this podcast, Camille, what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever been a part of a scam that's outside of the statute of limitations that you want to talk about anything?

[Kimia Bornoia]

I have been scammed, but I've never done any scamming. I love rules, so I would never, like, break the rules or whatever, so I'm not.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you are a rule follower. That's wild.

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's so sad.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, rules are just made up by other people.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, I make them a lot for myself too, so I even follow some that other people didn't put on me. I just make.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, well, rules for yourself is what everyone should live by, but rules that are just made up by other random people, I don't ascribe to those.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I like all kinds of rules. I don't see color when rules are coming by. Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow. A problematic icon. I don't see color.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Wow. Okay. Anyway, you want to know about the time I was scammed?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, I do.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, So I was trying to go to. To Disneyland because my wife's mom was cancer free, and we were like, wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Let'S take her to turn up.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Let's go to Disneyland.

[Lacey Mosley]

Place full of germy children.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, well, she was fine. So you're saying that was a bad Idea. It's okay. She wanted to go and we wanted to treat her, but it was like back when I didn't have a lot of money. So I was like on Craigslist being like, someone's gotta have some Disneyland tickets.

[Lacey Mosley]

You were treating her with Craigslist?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Look, she didn't need to know where it came from, but I had to get the tickets.

[Lacey Mosley]

This was on me, y'all. Yep, that's somebody in the alley. And now we going to the place where dreams come true.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Look, and joke was on me, okay? They posted that. They were like, wow, I bought all these tickets. This person was like, oh, my aunt was gonna come into town and we have an extra ticket. Cause she didn't come.

[Lacey Mosley]

Elaborate story.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And then. Okay, you're right. This was a huge red flag.

[Lacey Mosley]

But too many. All you gotta say is, I got tickets. They were like, okay, my aunt was gonna come to town, but then she broke her hip and she currently in the hospital. Y'all can go donate to the GoFundMe, but y'all can also buy these tickets off of us. But my aunt, her name is Sandra and she a Libra.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And yeah, hearing it back now. I should have you.

[Lacey Mosley]

But okay, so the auntie Craigslist something.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And I reached out and I was like, okay, great, I'll take these tickets. Lovely. Cause they were selling it at a discount. Cause they bought like a five day whatever, it doesn't matter. And so I met them in a.

[Lacey Mosley]

Parking lot, as one does.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And they were there and they gave me the tickets. And it was a little card, so it looked legit. It was a Disneyland card ticket.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you go to Disneyland.

[Kimia Bornoia]

So I've been. I'm from la, so I've been here. I've gone to Disneyland all my life. So it seemed regular. And then I was like, wow, thank you so much. I paid him whatever couple hundred dollars. And then we went to scan in the next day to Disneyland. And they were like, no, these, these are. These haven't been purchased. Like they went in the Ralph's. You know how they have those like little gift card section. They went and just picked up a Disneyland thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

And they didn't get the scam?

[Kimia Bornoia]

No. And they didn't activate it at all. And they sold that shit to me. And then I bought it and I was so mad. So I sent them a little text because I had their phone number. And I was like, I did a little white lie. And I was like, oh, you know, this was a cancer trip for my mom and you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is that a White lie sold us.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, because she doesn't have. She didn't have cancer anymore.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but it was a celebration of. It was. And also, you're married, so technically, this is your mom. I see no lies at the time.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's true. Okay, so you're right. So I didn't even scam the scammer. I just told her back the truth. I was just polite to try to make her feel bad. Never received a text back.

[Lacey Mosley]

Of course, not that she'd already robbed you. Now, how much did the cards cost?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Shoot. I don't know. I feel like I paid her, like, 200 bucks or less. It was either from 80 to $200. This was so long ago.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, now, what does an average Disneyland ticket cost these days?

[Kimia Bornoia]

I feel like it's $200 for if you want to go to two parks for, like, one person.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, okay.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've only been once, but we had a tour guide, so I don't know what the cost is.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, you paid, like, extreme cost. Nobody at all. You didn't pay at all. So.

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, well.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I would never go back unless it was like, I went the first time.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Well, of course, when you go like that, why would you go and be like a plebe?

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't understand why I would go to a park and wait in lines all day. So I could ride with Indiana Jones one time and maybe a teacup ride. Like, look, I fight kids. I'm. Look, y'all know, online I'm five'nine But in real life, I won't lie, I'm five'one which means I can fight kids. We the same height. You know what I mean?

[Kimia Bornoia]

I don't think height makes me a.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm in the weight class of kids, okay? That means I can fight them. And so I would have to fight them because I'm not about to wait in no lines.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I don't see you. I can't even picture you at Disneyland waiting in a line. So that makes a lot of sense to me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Lines are really bad for my self esteem.

[Kimia Bornoia]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. You know how some people have, like, emotional support dogs?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. My self esteem is not waiting in lines.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That doesn't.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's clinical. It does. Cause it's like, for my emotional zone.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You're just not going into lines.

[Lacey Mosley]

I didn't skip the line.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You cut every line?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Every single line.

[Lacey Mosley]

Absolutely.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You went and got a sandwich before you came here. You just walked up.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And then people don't go, boo, lady, get out of here.

[Lacey Mosley]

What Is a boo gonna do to.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Me make you feel bad? Like, that text that I sent that person, just gonna have her. I just imagine her receiving that text and sitting there and being like, I'm such a bad person.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's not what happened.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No. Ah, I feel so bad I hurt someone else's feelings.

[Lacey Mosley]

Can I tell you, as someone who has cut many people off in TR and look, not deliberately, you know, I'm a bad driver. I'm getting better, you know? Cause I care about people on the road and I want everybody to be safe. But if I make a driver mistake and someone pulls up to me and starts flicking me off or cussing me out, I just stare straight ahead, even if my window's down. I'm like, do, do, do think and happy thoughts. Like, I'm not gonna receive that energy.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And you don't feel bad ever. Later when you say, man, I'm too moral.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, give that up. You shoot, it's a scam. It's not even like, who made morals up. I think morals are just doing right by people. And you do right by people, Kimi. But if people don't do right by you, you know, like, I don't know if they have another. I feel like you should have gone back on Craigslist and see if they had another ad up for stealing cards and then just went to the parking lot again and just took the cards from them and ran.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, shit. Well, I would have taken blank cards at me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now it don't matter. It's the Principality.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

They can't do the scam. Cause they don't have the cards to exchange.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay. You know, I'm gonna start being bad. That's what I learned today.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Kimia Bornoia]

Petunia.

[Lacey Mosley]

Petunia. Oh, that's beautiful. Like a flower. I don't know if I've ever seen a petunia. What do they look like?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Are you asking me what a flower looks like?

[Lacey Mosley]

You just said petunia off the top of your head. Like you knew flowers. A botanist is that who does flowers?

[Kimia Bornoia]

A florist and a botanist? Yeah, they do plants. Yeah. I don't know what that flower looks.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, but all flowers though, right?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Kind of the same.

[Lacey Mosley]

People used to name their kids Petunia.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Judith is really on it. We got a picture of petunias up here. See? Oh, these are all around LA roses. That little unnamed flower that nobody picks.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No. What? Okay. Every flower looks like the same flower. Is that rude?

[Lacey Mosley]

No. Cause roses look different than this. Roses give the girls more petals. Sunflowers are the black people of flowers. What? Yeah. Cause they're beautiful and they have a little brown in the middle. And black people, like, yellow is our color.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I love that.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then you got orchids. That's the bad bitch flower that needs a lot of maintenance. Yeah. I don't even know why people buy orchids. That's a scam. Nobody knows how to take care of them.

[Kimia Bornoia]

What's the ones that you can pick off and then you make them talk when you squeeze them. Is it like a baby's breath or the monkey flower? Nobody know what I'm talking about.

[Lacey Mosley]

Monkey flower.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's fine. It's okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'll keep Honeysuckle.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No, it's not that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. I don't know. That's the one the birds be fucking with. They be sucking on that one.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Tastes like honey, I hear.

[Lacey Mosley]

It ain't never tasted like honey when.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I saw it, but you're not a.

[Lacey Mosley]

Bird, so they tasted it different. Yeah, I guess. It be tasting like pollen to me. Yeah. I've licked on a flower. I was trying to see what was up.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Why?

[Lacey Mosley]

I want to know what olden time people were doing. If I was just left in the wilderness, I wouldn't. I don't know. You eat flowers and.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No, you eat, like, fruits and seeds and berries. You wouldn't just pick up a flower and then pop it in your mouth. You telling me if you were in the olden times, you would just peel bark from a tree, eat it, and then lay down in the dirt like, yum, yum, yum. I'm surviving, really.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to be on if I'm in the desert or the wilderness. Like, I would die immediately.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This makes a lot of sense.

[Lacey Mosley]

If I was just dropped off in a jungle, I would just quit. I wouldn't even try.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You just sit down and be like.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, this is it. Time to demise. You know? So Petunia says, hi, Lacy. Oh, some nice things. I'm gonna skip those, Petunia. You know how we go, so. But thank you, Petunia. A month or so ago, I was cracking up when you were talking about going to the ER and wishing that you had scammed your way in there in an ambulance. Obviously, I wasn't laughing because you were in the er, but because a year ago, I arrived at the ER via ambulance in Chicago. I was in bad. In all caps shape with vertigo. Okay, you said you were in bad shape with all caps. I thought you was gonna say you had a gunshot wound or a heart attack.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Serious.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. I've had vertigo on a plane.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I've never had it. Is it serious?

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, it feels serious when it happens because your body's like Mr. Krabs meme. Like, everything is spinning and you like. And when it happened to me on a plane, it did feel very serious and also very embarrassing because it's not like an illness, like a heart attack or something where people are like, oh, this person's in dire strains. It's just like this bitch is dizzy. Like, you know, dying from dizziness is very embarrassing. I just remember waking up in my seat, and it was like a flight attendant, like, dabbing, like, a cold compress on my head or some kind of makeshift shit, and I was just like, wow, that's it.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You just get dizzy.

[Lacey Mosley]

But I did feel very, like, delicate. Like, I think people who faint are very delicate. Like, I wish that I could faint more. It just feels delicate.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Or, like, anemic. Right? You just don't have your. Like, blood sugar is low and you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, it could be blood sugar.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You need to eat more food and, like.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, anemia just like, iron, right?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. And then. Cause I got a touch of the anemia.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, you got. You've been touched.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've got a little touched by anemia.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, but, yeah, you're right. Like, low blood sugar anemia.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Those are fainting people.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. I have a best friend who one time she fainted in Miami, and, like, it was scary, but it was also very cute. And like, she fainted. And it was so. Like, I felt like I was in a 1930s movie.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

And we were like, get her some water. Get her some water. But we were some bougie ass bitches. So somebody brought water over. But it was like a half drank bottle of water when you. No, not that. Not that. Y'all got fresh, like, untapped.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lacey Mosley]

We want to hear the seal when we give her the.

[Kimia Bornoia]

She's fainted. Who cares?

[Lacey Mosley]

Nah, nah, nah. She wouldn't want that. No, she'd be like, I'd rather die.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

I'd rather die.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Seems like you and your friends are very similar.

[Lacey Mosley]

We are. That's why we're friends.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And then there's me.

[Lacey Mosley]

We're also friends, so I know what you're saying.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I don't know what's going on. We'll find similarities.

[Lacey Mosley]

Kimmy taught me how to swim, y'all.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I did.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, in deep water. And she also judged me because when I dive in the deep end, I hold my nose because the water would go up into my brain. And she was like, nah, that's not what you do. You're supposed to just breathe out and hum when you jump in the pool. I'm not an expert, dude.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Holding your nose makes you look like a. Wow. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

You see how she bullying me?

[Kimia Bornoia]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

This is crazy. Black on black crime. Oh, my God. So, okay, so sis was Petunia says she was in bad shape with the vertigo, you know? And if you don't know what vertigo is, it's like, let me not lie. Judith, can you pull up what vertigo is? But basically, from my experience of having vertigo, everything was just topsy turvy. Does that make sense? Yeah.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Doesn't it make people throw up as well? You get really nauseous and.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Cause it's like your bearings are gone. Like, and it can happen anywhere. So the definition of vertigo, which is coming from my head and not Google, is that it's a symptom. Can we zoom in on my brain? Cause this is definitely me thinking. But can we zoom in? Cause I can't read my brain. That is a little far away. Okay, so can we get rid of that tent on my brain so I can read? Hold on, y'all. I'm thinking, do, do, do, do, do, do.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yo, you need help? I'm in your brain.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, so in my brain, vertigo.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, so what? Vertigo is rolodexing your brain right now.

[Lacey Mosley]

You gotta do that sometimes. Your brain will just be giving things up for free all the time. So It's a often. Okay, so vertigo is often caused by inner ear problems. Some of the most common causes include what did what. When you On a plane stuff.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So vertigo is a simulation of feeling off balance. If you have, like, a dizzy spell, or you might feel like you're spiraling and that the world is spinning. Okay. I was right. Cause I know it. Cause I lived it. I did. It was, like, spinning and shit. And, oh, Petunia says, because everything was spinning. See? Mm.

[Kimia Bornoia]

We just had to read on. We didn't have to do any of that digging into your brain.

[Lacey Mosley]

But, you know, personal experience. I was vomiting. The EMTs and got me from work and took me to Northwestern. Not at work. You have vertigo. I mean, honestly, the best place to have vertigo, like, leave the job and be like, don't clock me out till six. That's what I would do. So they got her or Petunia, and they took Petunia to Northwestern Hospital. They were really mean and yelled at me when I threw up in the ambulance and said I should have warned them. They kept telling me I was having a panic attack, which I wasn't, in parentheses, and telling me to just calm down. Now imagine you having some mean ass gaslighting EMTs. Like, bitch, why you ain't telling us? You was finna thought, bitch, this is a. This is an ambulance. What do you think? I can predict.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And that cannot be the worst thing they've seen in that ambulance. Just somebody throwing up.

[Lacey Mosley]

Somebody's definitely pooping themselves in an ambulance.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Absolutely.

[Lacey Mosley]

That feels like the spot to do so.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

If I'm gonna avoid my bowels. Not on the toilet. It's definitely in an ambulance. This is an emergency. We in an emergency pool.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's the place I would void my bowels.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's also not a chill vehicle. It's loud as fuck. They're like. Like, come on, now. You're speeding. You're going very fast.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You're already dizzy. You did, like. They made Petunia throw up.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. And then how y'all gonna yell at her? Like, now we gotta clean up your vomit out. The ambulance. It's an ambulance. What do y'all think happens in your ambulance budget?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Come on.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? Why you ain't tell us you needed some. Some shocks? Hold on.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Clear.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, yes. This is your job.

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's your job, Anne.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So when we got to the hospital, they wheeled me in there and just left me in the lobby. Mm, mm, mm. Love the American healthcare system.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I can't believe that we do this to People, we do.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look, ambulance ain't nothing but an overpriced Uber with some drugs.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, they even get mad at you when you throw open it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Clearly.

[Kimia Bornoia]

There you go.

[Lacey Mosley]

If I kept my eyes closed, I wasn't as dizzy and stopped vomiting. So I'm in a crowded ER waiting room with my eyes shut, hoping nobody grabs my purse or computer bag, and desperate to get help. See, that's capitalism. You left. So you had a medical emergency. They called 911, they brought you an ambulance, and as you're being carted away on a stretch, you're like, give me my purse and my computer back. I got a deadline tomorrow. That's true.

[Kimia Bornoia]

His eyes shut. Doing all her work from the hospital bed.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I know where the keys are. I know Qwerty. I don't need to see.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Mavis Beacon taught me typing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Do they still teach typing in school?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Dude, I don't know. All I know is I had Baby Beacon on a CD ROM teaching me how to do typing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, they were trying to make us all stenographers. Cause I remember words per minute was a whole challenge. They'd be like, how many words per minute can you type? And I'm like, bitch, I don't want carpal tunnel.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I don't want to use this.

[Lacey Mosley]

3, 4. Like, thanks to voice to text, no words per minute. So she's in the waiting room, Petunia. And is laying on the stretcher with her eyes closed, hoping nobody robs her, clutching her belongings. Petunia says, I waited for 90 minutes or so, and at some point, I just started yelling, can someone please help me? Eventually, they wheeled me over to an intake area with a little curtain around me. Okay, you got a little privacy. Come on. Curtain.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Ew. We like this.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they gonna charge you for that curtain, too. Check your medical bill. Cause they're gonna charge you for that curtain. Cause everybody else wasn't getting curtains. They was like, oh, you want curtains? That's $1,500.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, geez.

[Lacey Mosley]

Then this woman came in, and I thought I was finally gonna get help, but no. She asked me if I had insurance.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. That's not how it's supposed to work. They can't ask you if you have insurance beforehand. They're supposed to just help you. Do you have help money? Cause if you don't have help money, we got some move you. We definitely gonna take the curtain away. We wheeling this curtain over to a bitch who got some Kaiser Permanente that you don't deserve. Help. Like, what you talking about, help? You ain't got no money. Mm. Mm. Blue Cross, no shield. Let's take the curtain away. I said yes. And she asked me for an ID and my insurance card. That's not how medical help works. You came in a fucking ambulance. And they talk about. Now, can we see your ID and what's the last four digits of your social id?

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's gotta be an emergency. She threw up before she got there. We gotta at least expedite this process.

[Lacey Mosley]

Put her back. Put her back. We know the balance ain't high enough for her to pay for this. So she said, like, y'all can just get the info later. I'm having vertigo and can't look with my eyes. Makes sense. So the nurse says, I'm just doing my job.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Are you okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

So I got her the info and immediately started throwing up again. Cause, duh, you couldn't open your eyes. You have vertigo. She was completely unbothered. Of course she was.

[Kimia Bornoia]

She's seen that, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

She's like, I do this to everybody. If you got a gunshot wound, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll take that out of you. But who's your insurance provider first? Yeah, no, hold your wound and then grab your wallet with your other hand. You got two hands. You can hold. Compress it.

[Kimia Bornoia]

She probably. These nurses have, like, reached into people's butts who've stuck their wallets up there and taken out those insurance cards. People put weird stuff up their butts.

[Lacey Mosley]

They do. They do. And they have to go to the hospital. Yeah. So this nurse. This is evil. Anyways, Petunia says I eventually got help and was admitted for two nights. The day I was scheduled to leave, HR called me to ask how I was and then connected me onto a call where a bunch of us were laid off.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, God, this story got so much worse.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God. How you go? How you gonna call me? I'm at the hospital.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lacey Mosley]

Hey, we finally reached your room. Yeah, no, we ain't send no flowers, but yeah. Yeah. How you doing? You dying? You dead. Okay.

[Kimia Bornoia]

If you're still alive, I've got some news for you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, we was actually hoping you was going to be dead so we was going to have to lay you off. Cuz then life would have laid you off, and then we wouldn't have had to lay you off.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You don't have to deal with the guilt of this.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but just, you know, fired. That's. This is not funny, y'all. This is the country we live in.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Such a bummer.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is not okay. It's not. And honestly, if you work a job like this, you're a cog in the wheel. I'm sure whoever called her from HR was like, for real. Cause my mom works in hr. And one of the things she taught me, she's like a VP of hr. And one thing she taught me about firing people. Cause I've had to do it in my life. You know, we both run our own businesses and shit.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I have never. Oh, yes. I fired someone.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep. Okay. So it's hard to let people go, but it's like. And I wait too long. I wait until they've done just, like, egregious things. And I'm like, oh, I'm bleeding. I guess I should have fired them. But she was like, when you fire someone who's not good at their job, you're giving them an opportunity to find something that they're passionate about and probably would be better at than what they're doing. Because if they're not good at it and, you know, they're, you know, harming the system or whatever, they might find something that they're happier with. And I have been fired. And was that started my acting career is like the last job I was at, I got fired.

[Kimia Bornoia]

What's your last job? Job.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was working at this job and was working me like a slave. And, like, I was only supposed to be part time, but they somehow tricked me into working 50 hours a week and all this. And they were super mean to me. Like, even when everything was going good, we had just a manager named Josh. I'm gonna say your name. Josh. You. And he would just come up to me if everything was good, the food coming out, everybody happy, everybody having a good time. Lacy, I noticed your wagu beef sales are down. What's up with that? I don't live to slang. No cash for y'all, ho. I'm in here for a fucking check, bitch. Fuck you.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Come on.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was just a dick.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I'm so sorry.

[Lacey Mosley]

And so I left. There.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Good.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then I went to another restaurant, short term, which was also high end, but it was privately owned and they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. So I was in the kitchen cooking creme brulees. Not my job.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You were cooking?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, cooking up creme brulees for a birthday celebration. Not my job. And then we were understaffed. Somebody sat down, some fancy fashion person who was old. And when you get old in fashion, you don't have no power no more. Cause you're not Young. So your only power is in being old and having money. So she wrote a letter to the own or email or something, and it got me fired. But because they had never documented that I was consistently seven minutes late, which is the perfect amount of lateness. I heard you say this, you know, you listen and you've experienced this. Seven, you're not mad at seven. Eight, you're getting a little pissed off. Okay. Five, you don't even notice. Seven, it's like, oh, we know she late, but. Oh, she here.

[Kimia Bornoia]

What do you do that seven minutes, though? Nothing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sleeping?

[Kimia Bornoia]

No. For seven minutes, it'd be never late.

[Lacey Mosley]

You need to try seven minutes of sleep on a snooze. Put your snooze on. Seven minutes, it'd be busting.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Just seven minutes. Ooh.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's just enough.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Seems like not enough. Like a little tease of stuff.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's tasty.

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's good.

[Lacey Mosley]

It makes you feel like you're cheated. It makes you feel like, ooh, yeah, seven minutes is popping.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah. Okay, I'll try it and then I'm gonna call you.

[Lacey Mosley]

You should call me. Call me afterwards. But. So they never wrote it down. So when they fired me because of this rich fashioned old lady, there was no document proof that I had been a bad employee. So they ended up having to pay me $12,000. And I saved that money and just started acting for.

[Kimia Bornoia]

They paid you $12,000?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, in unemployment.

[Kimia Bornoia]

O.

[Lacey Mosley]

So yeah. I don't know. How do we get on this table?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Because firing people is not always bad.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. No, so it wasn't bad. But at the same time, I'm not caping for capitalism, okay? Capitalism is Superman. They got the best capes over there. They don't need us. They don't need our help. But I'm just saying, even though this HR person is evil, I understand that they're working for a bigger evil and they're just doing their job.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Damn.

[Lacey Mosley]

So fair enough. But. So the HR lady called and said, hey, girl, how you doing? Okay, good. You living? All right, great. Now you living unemployed.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

Petunia says, I guess I was lucky that I had the vertigo attack while still insured versus two days later.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, that's good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Mm. So maybe that was also a part of it. They were like, ah, we gotta pay this insurance bill. We can't keep her employment.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Wow, that would suck if they were like, oof, we got the bill. We gotta let Petunia go.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ambulance rides are expensive. They are Petunia. But getting laid off in the hospital after Being taken to the hospital from your office in an ambulance was pretty wild. Yeah, it's fucked up, Petunia. You got a fist fight the office building. Just punch the bricks. I don't know how much damage you can do, but this is fucked up. All is okay now. I'm glad to hear that, Petunia.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Good.

[Lacey Mosley]

I have mild vertigo once in a while, but nothing like before. And I had a new job within a couple weeks. Okay, Petunia. Yes, but this is a scam.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Mm.

[Lacey Mosley]

Petunia, I'm so sorry that this happened to you. I'm sorry that the EMTs were rude as fuck. I'm sorry that the nurse tried to shake you down and do a cavity search for money before they gave you any healthcare.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And then you got fired in the hospital.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, you got your. You hooked up to the machine, checking your vitals. It's like, boop, boop, boop. And then you hear the phone call Eee. Yeah, the EEE was literally them calling you, being like, y you alive, but you no longer alive at this company. You are dead to us, but glad you living.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Bye bye.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's so fucked. Guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non scam advertisements. We'll be back with my favorite part of the show. Historic Hoodwinks robbery. Look, y'all, I might be an expert in scams, but I am not an expert in everything, okay? And that's why I love Acorns. Because they will recommend a diversified portfolio that fits you and your money goals. Don't we all have money goals? I know we all making money move. Need to be rich. Acorn lets you invest with the spare money you've got right now. You can start with $5 or even just your spare change. You don't need to feel like financial wellness is impossible because it's not. Acorns gives you small, simple steps to get you and your money on track. Basically, Acorns does the hard part so you can give your money a chance to grow. I actually use Acorns and I love it. And sometimes I forget that it's there. And then I'll go look and I'll be like, ooh, money. But then I'll leave the money alone. Because that's what investment is about. Head to acorns.com goddess or download the Acorns app to start saving and investing for your future today. Paid non client endorsement compensation provides incentive to positively promote Acorns Tier 2 compensation provided investing involves risk. Acorn Advisors LLC and SEC registered investment advisor view important [e-mail] Goddess NetCredit is here to say yes to a personal loan or line of credit when other lenders know, apply in minutes and get a decision as soon as the same day. If approved applications are typically funded the next business day or sooner. Loans offered by NetCredit or lending partner banks and serviced by NetCredit. Applications subject to review and approval. Learn more at netcredit.com partners NetCredit Credit to the people and we are. And it's time for historic hoodwinks. This is where I will regale Kimiya with a famous con caper. Group of criminals we don't know yet. Maybe we like them, maybe we hate them. We'll see. So today we're talking about something that happened earlier this year. FBI conducted raid on former President Trump's Florida estate, Mar A Lago.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Mm. The golf course slash resort where he buried his first wife.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Is that. That's what he did there? Yeah, it's just. So she died and he was like, do it on the golf course.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ivanka died two days before they were starting depositions. Yeah, weirdly.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

Strangely. And then they were like, let's. Well, you're saying they did something. I'm not saying they did.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You're just saying.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm just saying she did Strange. Strange die and then they buried her on the golf course.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Man. You think there's just some. They're hiding tax papers in her body.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've heard that people were saying that. I wouldn't be surprised if they were, like, put all the government documents in there.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Inside her. Yes. And then bury her under par eight. No, par three. Hole eight.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause then technically it becomes a cemetery, and that's a tax write off.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, you just need one person buried somewhere to be a cemetery. Yeah, My house is a cemetery. Who's buried in church? Nobody.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nobody.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I just wanted to try that out and see how it went. There's no one buried at my house.

[Lacey Mosley]

If I have like, a pet rabbit and I bury it and give it a tombstone, is that a cemetery?

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's a pet cemetery. So you get less of a write off.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's not fair.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Nope.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, Mar a Lago, right there, they found a number of top secret and highly classified documents that's been extremely publicized, which are still being investigated. But in addition to the documents, authorities are discovering that a woman claiming to be an heiress spent a considerable amount of time at the estate with unknown motives.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, just a random heiress. Why is there always some heiress related to a lot of these scams like someone just being like, I just have a ton of money. That just makes you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, because I think an heiress is like a great scam. Because you can be an heiress and be broke. Because the whole premise of being an heiress is that you're going to inherit money. Not that you need nabbit Dang. So it's like, no, I'm an air Red, so don't fuck with me. Because one day when someone dies, I will be rich.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This is way more helpful than your 7 minutes thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

I think both are helpful.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Try the seven minutes thing. Okay. It'll change your life. I'm gonna write a book on it. Just seven minutes. Be late. Seven Minutes can't be a huge book.

[Kimia Bornoia]

If you're gonna write a book on this.

[Lacey Mosley]

No one likes a long book.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You get like a zine on this. That's about it.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a post it note.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the trip to Mar? A Lago. Anna de Rothschild. Rothschild, pictured right here. She's on the right. She is a. Okay, Anna.

[Kimia Bornoia]

She cute on the right.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's got those Balenciaga. They're both wearing Balenciagas, but she wearing them new. New Balenciagas. I was actually just looking at those.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I would not know that. But it's just strange to me when people have like a group or duo photo as their main photo that comes up. It's like, what happens? What happened? What happened to your solos?

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, look, that's a dating profile thing for men. Men love to be on dating profiles with photos of a bunch of dudes. And I'm like, which one are you? You are telling me this is just a scam for you guys to know if you are someone who's attracted to men, Cisgendered men. Doesn't matter who you are. If you go on a dating profile and a cisgendered man has a photo with a bunch of other men in it as their profile run. Cause they ugly Cause why you got all these men in here trying to distract me from which one? Who are you, sir?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Just to show you have friends and you're.

[Lacey Mosley]

Your photos should be of you.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

Not people who look like you. And we can't make you out in a crowd.

[Kimia Bornoia]

These two ladies look the same.

[Lacey Mosley]

They look very similar.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Rothschild's in their Balenciaga shoes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. So the one on the right is Anna de Rothschild. And at first glance, it's like the most stereotypical wealthy international heiress. I guess we're supposed to get that from the Balenciaga. The ones that look like Socks.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's the only clue I'm seeing here.

[Lacey Mosley]

I have Balenciagas. And I'm not an heiress.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You could be.

[Lacey Mosley]

I gotta start doing that. I'm an heiress to the black fortune. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm just an heiress to the black fortune. I'm like, which black fortune? Be like, that's so good.

[Kimia Bornoia]

But so specific at the same time. That's really good.

[Lacey Mosley]

The black fortune. Y'all don't know about that? Google it. And then I'll run away before they do it. So she wore designer clothes, was never seen without a Rolex. Come on, rollie. And drove $170,000 Mercedes Benz SUV. So she's G. Like, she got a little bit of the air already.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I guess you just need like three statement pieces. Three really expensive things that I agree with that. That's it. And then you just can be an heiress.

[Lacey Mosley]

You can wear everything. Your clothes can be cheap. But you know, you got some good jewelry, you got a good purse, a good shoe. It's giving heiress to me.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Her name first began popping up in public spheres when photos of her mingling with Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham appeared and other politicians. So here's her with these nasty old men. And I guess this was popping to some people.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Like, this is nuts. And these guys, I guess it's like me, you don't know when you're being scammed. But these two guys weren't like, what is this young person doing hanging out with us?

[Lacey Mosley]

Why are you all holding up? Thumbs up. Like we all agree to this picture. This is the corniest photo I've ever seen in my life. Like, please put this in the Smithsonian for corny ass, weird ass photos.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I think it's like, why people don't know what to do with their hands in a photo.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they just. It's giving Ricky Bobby. Like, they're just like coming up into the frame and they're like, no, put it in the Thumbs up. It's weird. It's weird. This is. I don't know what this picture is telling me that there are a couple.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Buddies on the golf course and having a good time.

[Lacey Mosley]

Thumbs up. We're on the golf course, having a good time. They're all dressed poorly.

[Kimia Bornoia]

So bad. The fashions are not there.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, the fashions are not fashioning. I don't know where they got these. These clothes. I don't know who the cloth maker is.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Typical clothes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Fight them. Fight the seamstress. Seam man. Seam them. Whoever, Whoever created These looks.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a fisticuffs. Like they look terrible. I would never trust these people with anything.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No at all.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, if I saw them at the Valley, I'd be like, I'll park my shit myself. Like, no. What are y'all doing?

[Kimia Bornoia]

You can see her Rolex there. So you gotta be like, yeah, she.

[Lacey Mosley]

Got the Rolex in the photo. Yes. She puts it over her face so you can really see. So. The Rothschilds are one of the oldest and wealthiest families in the world. They receive most of their money through banking. Family is so big that they have countless heirs and heiresses all over. So it's a good family to be like, oh, I'm an heiress. Because how is anybody going to know? Because there's so many of y'all motherfuckers. It's like being a Wayans. Like, how am I supposed to know which Wayans is the one who's making all the money? There's too many of them.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's true. And then when you. What did you say? Makes money through banking? I was like also vague, but so specific. I'm not going to ask any more questions. I don't know nothing about no banks.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. It's not like you tell me anything specific and I'm going to be like, yeah, interesting. Rates, home loans.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, so hang on a second. A scam is either like really, really specific in your like red flag or super, super vague, super vague. You're like, yuck, red flag.

[Lacey Mosley]

We get all our money from banking. Y'all know how banking works? Fdic, have you heard of it? Yeah, that's my cousin. Like, what?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, I'm gonna get scammed all over the place. Cause I cannot identify.

[Lacey Mosley]

So her true name was Ayanna Yacheesin, a Russian speaking immigrant from Ukraine whose father was a truck driver from Illinois.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Huh?

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, sounds good to me.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Iyana, when she was little, there's like not much known about her life. Like when she's young, at the age of 22, she married Sergey Gulobiev, a 38 year old boat captain living in Miami. So this is Sergey. And look at Sergey. He's giving like, I will give the bitches a fancy lifestyle. He's giving like steak and lobster dinner like, I got money. Look at me pose next to this car with my horrible fashions. But yeah, it's given like, I got money and I don't know how to spend it. Which is my favorite kind of man. Because I'll teach you by spending it on me. That's how you should spend it.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's fair. And this guy looks way too old to be marrying a 22.

[Lacey Mosley]

22 year old? No. Leonardo DiCapriongo. During their five year marriage, it's unclear whether they maintained an actual relationship, though Mr. Globovev now claims it was because she needed a green card. So they weren't even in a real marriage. She just needed that card, honey. While in Miami, Ina also worked for a business that specializes in providing pregnant Russian mothers the option to have their babies in the US to gain citizenship.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, that sounds like a mini scam on the side here.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? She just had a side hustle of, like, going to the clinics and being like, oh, did you just get your two week checkup? Great. Do you want to go to the US and pop that baby out over there?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Wow. I mean, that's smart.

[Lacey Mosley]

In 2014, Ina met Valerie Tarantsenko, a Florida businessman who was raised in Moscow. He allowed her to live in his Miami condo in exchange for washing his children while he traveled on business.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Washing his children.

[Lacey Mosley]

Watching.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Great. But also probably washing probably.

[Lacey Mosley]

In 2015, Ena became president of the United Hearts of Mercy, a Miami charity dedicated to helping impoverished children out here in these streets. Okay, so Mr. Charanco happened to have founded a charity of the same name in Canada five years prior. So she's babysitting for this man, and all of a sudden she's the president of a charity that's similar to the one that he founded five years prior to that.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, it's not the same one. It's just so super similar to.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

However, there was no evidence that either charities did any work for impoverished children. And a certified public accountant hired by the charity has alleged it was actually a source of funds for Russian organized group.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Jeez, why would you pick charity to run your bad money through?

[Lacey Mosley]

It is. It's tax exempt, and, like, all you need to run a charity is, like, a vague ass name. They were like impoverished children. Everybody was like, that makes sense. The children are poor and they got a charity for it.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Adds up to me morals. It just seems so rude to use charity to do this.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, charity is a big source of crime, like churches. However, there was no evidence that either charities, like, did any work were right. The charity accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars for a donation campaign before its payment processor, Stripe Incorporated, suspected fraud and halted payments. So they're like, oh, yeah, the kids are hungry, y'all. We gonna get them food and snacks and whatnot. And fruit snacks.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Fruit snacks. Kids live off fruit snacks, Froll Ups.

[Lacey Mosley]

And all the Capri Suns that they could ever want for. And Stripe was like, it's looking a little. Many of the donors were suspected of using false emails to trick the processor. After the drive ended, the charity's accountant said that she began to get threatening calls from people who she suspected were from criminal groups demanding their money back.

[Kimia Bornoia]

So the criminals were.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're like, wait a minute. We was giving this money for crime, and now like, what's going on?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Now they're helping the children with the money.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I don't think the children. The children never saw a dime.

[Kimia Bornoia]

So the children didn't see nothing and the crimes were doomed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep.

[Kimia Bornoia]

So the money's going to.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's currently unclear where the funds went.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Great. Great.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ena also became president of Rothschild Media Label, a still active artist management group.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Maybe they'll sign me. Maybe they'll sign me.

[Lacey Mosley]

They might. Are you hungry? Do you want to do crime?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

And it's an artist management group primarily dedicated to promoting Mr. Tarancico's teenage daughter. So we have a photo here.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's their website.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. This is their website for musicians. They're giving musicians. Look, that one's holding a mic and he's got a colored beard. They didn't give a musician. I don't know what is. Look at that guy. He's black with a beanie on. He's an artist.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I could do it. They could sign me.

[Lacey Mosley]

You got a beanie?

[Kimia Bornoia]

I have a beanie.

[Lacey Mosley]

You already got a chain.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I have a chain and a beanie. Sign me.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is where you need to be. So Ina. Her stage name was Sophia Rothschild, not Ena. Getting into the music business, Ena had a lot of free time. Where are the kids that you're supposed to be babysitting? Ena. Because. Because it's giving. You sat them in front of Yo Gabba Gabba and then you went on to do Scamma Scammers.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's perfect. Oh, that's so good, Lacey.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love that. So additionally, Ena is listed as a president or owner of several more companies, including an entity partially owned by her father. And it's called soundtrip Beats Incorporated. A non existent music company.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay. The truck driver father.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Is now into music.

[Lacey Mosley]

I guess so.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, let's go.

[Lacey Mosley]

And look, music is one of the, like, best places to scam because they don't really have no unions like we do as actors. They just are stealing from people who wanna make music.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I can become a musician.

[Lacey Mosley]

You could. That would be the you should become an A and R exec.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Great.

[Lacey Mosley]

Don't be on the scam side or the scammy side. You wanna be on the scammer side. Yes, so. However, a court dispute erupted last year with her former business partner, who in response, has since released information about the details of her other business activities. So now she's got people snitching on her.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's good.

[Lacey Mosley]

I think so.

[Kimia Bornoia]

In that sense, that's what happens to you, man.

[Lacey Mosley]

So in a dispute, ena claims that Mr. Taranco coerced and forced her into swindling funds from men that she met to support their lifestyle. She was like, this wasn't my fault. I was just working as a babysitter. I was just trying to give the girls Peppa Pig. And then I got into Peppa Pilfer.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This is a whole bad argument for believe women here. It's not great.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, everybody. Don't gotta be a poster child. But they only make minorities have to be the example for their whole class, because every white man gets to just be a white man. Every school shooter gets to be a lone wolf individual who's random even though they all look the same. And you see them all in the Utah airport. I said it. So.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

You ever been to the Utah airport in Southern City?

[Kimia Bornoia]

I have never. And I.

[Lacey Mosley]

Everybody. Everybody there looks like they buy firearms and doing a manifesto. Very scary. Don't like it there.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I thought they just sing show tunes in our morning.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's very scary there. I've only been to the airport. I will never step foot into the city.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

If you're from Utah and listen to this show, shout out to y'all. I'll never be there, but I'm skiing.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Let's go on a ski trip.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nah, the closest y'all will get is hearing my voice right now. I'm not coming back over there. I know where my bread is buttered.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Listen up, Utah. Lacey's gonna do a show live coming at you next year.

[Lacey Mosley]

Uh, that ain't really gonna pull up.

[Kimia Bornoia]

There's a. Huh? I'll be there as well. For no reason.

[Lacey Mosley]

Kimi is just gonna be Kimia. So Mr. Jaronco, the babysitter man, denies this and says that they parted ways over allegations that his daughters.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, geez.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he's saying, I don't know what she's talking about. Rubbing me in the scams. But I do know she was pinching my daughters in between television shows and not giving them Mac and cheese. I know. So Ena goes east like Ina Goes west. So Ina seemingly first publicly appeared as Anna de Rothschild in 2019 at the Austrian World Summit, where she was seen taking photos with rapper Ray J and an Italian car designer, Horatio Pagani. According to developer Paul Bart in this is his quote. We always thought her grandfather had money and that he was an oligarch. And I love that everyone's like, yeah, we hung out with her because we assumed she was rich. That's not our fault. We choose our company by who has the most coins. That makes sense.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, totally. Can't blame us.

[Lacey Mosley]

What did we do wrong? She said she had money, so we was her friend.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Did you see her wrist? Did you see her car?

[Lacey Mosley]

Did you see that Rolex she holds up in her photos? That's why we were her friend. And that makes sense. We're also good people.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You can buy friends and we do all the time.

[Lacey Mosley]

All the time. So at the same time, his family company paid for her to fly at least three times on private jets to their resort project in the Bahamas. She was slated to sell the Bahamian residential development for $55 million and receive a commission, which that would be a cute ass commission, $55 million home. But the sale ultimately wasn't made. Hmm. Curious. Anna continued rubbing elbows with the wealthy businessman until she met Trump supporter. Not Trump yet.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, wow, you really put that pause in a good spot.

[Lacey Mosley]

Supporter Elkin Adam Kerr, a New York financial services company founder. It was Mr. Adam Kerr who first invited Ana to join him at Mar a Lago for a party on May 1, 2021. Look, racism is bad and a distraction from all of the. The systematic things that are placed in our government and in our class systems to oppress marginalized people and to keep them poor so they can continue to be slaves for oligarchs and billionaires. However.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Where is this going? I think I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's not even a however. It's just that Mar a Lago is a place where you're gonna see a lot of rich, powerful people who are like the ugliest, corniest, like, thumbs up, guys. Grossest people you've ever met. Like, do you wanna party with a bunch of just nasty ass uggos with no taste, no fashion sense?

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's like the food can't be good at this party.

[Lacey Mosley]

Hell no.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No one looks hot. No, the music is weird. If there's any, it's probably silent.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's all chicken satay and fucking. The worst music you've ever heard. The worst fashions, the worst faces, you know? So Mar a Lago is the residence of Donald Trump, right? A private members only club and event venue. By members only, they mean you gotta be ugly and rich to go there.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Slash cemetery.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, Slash cemetery. So the next day, she was photographed on the golf course for Trump's $25,000 per person golf fundraiser to raise money for the midterm elections.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That can't be allowed. It's America, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

In one photo, she's pictured standing next to both Donald Trump and Senator Lindsey Graham. And we saw that photo, and they all look corny and very, very ugly. I mean, honestly, in today's age, you can reach so through social media. I don't even know why we allow politicians to raise money for campaigns. We know you're just getting sponsored like you're a fucking NASCAR driver for fucking crime, for the fucking nra, and for lobbyists and shit. Like, bitch, you should have to run for office on Twitter. That's it.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Whoa.

[Lacey Mosley]

Y'all retweet if y'all want me to be president.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, shoot. I was just gonna say, wouldn't you just be president? If we all had to do this on Twitter, we'd just have to live in Lacy's world.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I wouldn't run for president.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's a very ghetto job.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, it sounds awful.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't want that.

[Kimia Bornoia]

It also is not a real job, Right? No, he's just like a figurehead.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, a figurehead for the police of the.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right. You're just the biggest cop.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't want to do war crimes. No, your whole job is war crimes.

[Kimia Bornoia]

They give you, like, a button that you push. It's just a big war crimes button.

[Lacey Mosley]

And a bunch of war codes, like. And also wars, like, look, why have we not rounded up all the men and just, like, put them in a little cage till we can see what we can do about them? Because wars, just men in general, it's their thing.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, put all the men in a cage. Let's go.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's their thing. They love to go to war. I don't want to go to wars for what I can imagine being in a war. And look, a lot of people get in the military because they have social, economical circumstances that, you know, they can get free education, they can get, you know, health care. They can provide a life for their families that they otherwise wouldn't be able to. And that's the scam of it all, because what is it? Like, we just gonna go fight everybody to the death? For what?

[Kimia Bornoia]

For what?

[Lacey Mosley]

For land we'll never own? Because you can't own anything because when you die, it's not yours anymore. Very ghetto.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Money's fake.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's all fake. Extremely ghetto and dumb. But, you know, here we are. So she returned with several guests back to Mar A Lago that night. Oh, okay, look, she was a cute beauty for their standards.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I mean, if you're at a boring party and with a bunch of ugly.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ugly people inside and out, they just. Ugly.

[Kimia Bornoia]

She's like, fine. What, like a Marcel Mar a Lago 8, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, she's definitely giving whole in one. So she returned with several guests, right? She's got a lot of people. She's like, hey, we coming back to Mar A Lago. Several days later, Anna was invited to attend a fundraiser for Eric Grittens. I don't care about saying his name correctly. At a nearby mansion also owned by Donald Trump. Eric Greedy is a former mayor of Missouri who resigned in disgrace after 2018 allegations of sexual misconduct. And look at him here, posing with a gun. What a fucking loser. People lose if you posing with guns. You just. Weirdo. Like, what is this photo? Like, what is this?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Trying to be cool posing with you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, you're so cool with your murder weapon, you weirdo.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, it's like, you don't have a personality if you're posing with your gun.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's like, y'all. Y'all wouldn't think I was cute without the gun, so let me just hold the gun up, and then maybe somebody.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Would be cute without his gun.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not gonna give him that.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You know what? Okay, fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not gonna give.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's fine. Me neither. What a uggo with a gun.

[Lacey Mosley]

So despite Anna's attendance at these events, her real identity was not known until March of 2022. So this is very recent. So getting caught. A Mar A Lago guest said several other fawned all over her because of the Rothschild mystique. They never probed. Instead tiptoed around her with kid gloves. Cause they're like, oh, you're famous and you're cute and you got the Rolex and you look the part.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Like, I'm just gonna ask you too many questions.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. So Dean Lawrence, a Florida music creative director, met several Trump insiders at a Mar A Lago dinner one night. Later in the night, the convention turned to Ana. And Mr. Lawrence recognized Ana as Ena, whom he had worked with years ago prior at her music company. Uh. Oh, say, bitch, don't you own that fake music company that don't do music?

[Kimia Bornoia]

What was your Name a different name before?

[Lacey Mosley]

No, you just pronouncing it wrong. It's not Ina. It's Anna. It's Anna.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Close enough.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? I love that she didn't stray too far from the original name.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You can't. It's smart not to.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's smart. So it also does not appear that the Secret Service or any of Mar A Lago's additional security conducted any sort of background check on Ana de Rothschild before her visit to the former president's residence. Of course they didn't. They're keeping fucking US US Classified documents that he just declassified in his brain over there. They're not keeping anything secure.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's kind of good. And I hope they don't, because then anyone can slip in there and cause chaos over there and any chaos is.

[Lacey Mosley]

Needed, even though that's all they do.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

So even a preliminary Google search would have brought up the very large old and public family tree of the Rothschilds, which does not show any anna born in 1988.

[Kimia Bornoia]

We still running our family tree trees.

[Lacey Mosley]

I guess to factory some stuff.

[Kimia Bornoia]

It's just, you know. Let me pull up your family tree.

[Lacey Mosley]

They didn't shake a branch. They didn't check a leaf. They did not look at all. This tree has been untouched. They said Arbor Day. Who arbors where they not looking Also, like, come on, let's not act like the Republican Party doing any research. That's not their brand. They just make up as they go.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And really bad graphics. Have you seen all of their terrible graphics? Have such bad art design.

[Lacey Mosley]

Are y'all still using and clip art? Like, y'all still got the paperclip helping y'all out. Talking about this is how we gonna make misinformation today.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That paperclip is hot, though, right? We'll move on. We'll move on. That's okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a paperclip with eyes. Camille, what is sexy about you?

[Kimia Bornoia]

How does you with your work in school?

[Lacey Mosley]

He's so hard.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Okay, you were talking about the he's so hard.

[Lacey Mosley]

Buff the paperclip. Okay. He does have a lot of information.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Someone's gonna agree with me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Shout out to y'all. Agree. Were you turned on by the paperclip?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Let me know.

[Lacey Mosley]

Kimmy, you had a very sheltered childhood. The paperclip was the sex icon of your childhood, and I love that. So now that Ina is claiming that all the driver's licenses generated with the Rothschild name in her photo were fabricated by Mr. Tarantzenko, she's like, oh, I didn't make anything like it was my old baby. And she said, I don't know nothing about Ana. Never met her. That was all the babysitter, father, man. And then I just used the IDs because now you're in a hole. She just runs away. Yikes. She just ran away mid sentence. But it never made sense. So it's been confirmed that she visited the estate enough times to be easily recognized on site by a number of guests. It's speculated that her primary goal was to collect business investors and become close to the Trump family for their money. Which is interesting because. Because, like, the stingiest family.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

With the least known about their money or if they even really have it is the Trump family. If I'm gonna rob somebody, it's definitely not the Trumps. Cause I feel like they're not very generous with their coins.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I feel like maybe we know that now, but I remember my family and I, we would watch the Apprentice and my dad would sit there and be like, that guy knows money. And we knew nothing. It was just like, no, he wasn't showing us any tips or anything about money. He was just exuding vague money. So anyone looking at him is like, that guy knows money.

[Lacey Mosley]

I guess he did have that scam. Cause everything was always gold trimmed. And you know what? I remember the Real Housewives Nene Leaks being like, I'm cashing a Trump check. That did not age well. No, did not age well. But you're right, at the time, everybody was like, trump money, gold. However, it's not known yet if she gained access to any of the top secret files that the FBI recently recovered from the estate, nor if she held any ulterior motive or if she maintains dealings with her former organized Russian crime partners. Curious that Russia, Russia could be involved in this also, like, they weren't locking anything up. As far as we know. Trump was just touring people around like, and these are the documents.

[Kimia Bornoia]

These are the government documents he wants them to be.

[Lacey Mosley]

You guys want to take a picture with the nuclear codes?

[Kimia Bornoia]

You guys want to touch it?

[Lacey Mosley]

It's only $100 a photo.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, you can take it home and bring it back to car like the library if you want.

[Lacey Mosley]

You want to check out the nuclear clothes for two weeks, you just gotta bring it back with a signature.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is how we know this man doesn't have money, because he's trying to sell anything. Three years before the investigation, two different women from China, one of them Tola, two passports and a thumb drive with malicious software were arrested. In separate instances, after they entered the club grounds while Trump was president. So they came in.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This is just in Mar a Lago. They just popped right in there.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, what is Mar a Lago but a place for crime? When Trump was president, he would show up and do club appearances. In Mar a Lago. If you were having a wedding, he'd be like, hey, I'm here for your wedding. I'm President Donald Trump. Would you like a picture with me? It'll be $500. What's happening? So Nina continues to be at the center of the FBI investigation and Major Crimes Unit investigation in Quebec related to her financial activities. Because, duh. Like, Ina Ana, like, she was doing crime all over the place. I mean, I don't know how I feel about Ina because she was trying to scam, like, the ultimate scammers, which is the Trumps. So I feel like. Was she harming anybody by scamming them?

[Kimia Bornoia]

No. I mean, I feel like anytime you're just scamming rich people among rich people, you're like, it's like, fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Especially the nastiest of rich people. Like, let's not act like these motherfuckers are good inside and out. That's why their whole soul is on their face and their necks and their hands.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're nasty.

[Kimia Bornoia]

They're like Oogie Boogie. If you turn them inside out, they're made of bugs, you know, Oogie Boogie.

[Lacey Mosley]

And made of bugs. Truly made of bugs. Honestly, let's not even insult bugs like that. They be doing stuff for the ecosystem. Let's not.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You're so right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. We're not even going to insult bugs like that by putting them in the same category. 45. Yeah. The bug that nobody likes. A little vampire.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Did you know mosquito. We get rid of all mosquitoes and everything in the ecosystem would just be fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn, we should really murder them.

[Kimia Bornoia]

There's no way to murder all of them. We'd probably some bees in the crossfire and that would be bad.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, yeah. No, the bees actually be out here making tasty treats and shit. Like, we don't need to fuck with the bees. Yeah, they've been fucked with enough. But yes, I would like to get rid of mosquitoes. I have a few of their, like, bites. Yeah. Remnants on my body right now that are still itching. I think they're getting stronger. Is there a super mosquito or something?

[Kimia Bornoia]

No, they are stronger now. They can, like, bite you five times before you detect them. They, like, the bumps come up like a couple Minutes later. It's like a delayed reaction to their venom. So they could get you more before you start itching, go the fucking inside.

[Lacey Mosley]

Because I prefer, you know, you would feel like a little bite and you slap them or whatever. No, I have two bites on both of my arms that have been persisting for weeks now where I'm like, how many times did y'all suck my shit up?

[Kimia Bornoia]

They have evolved and we don't need them to.

[Lacey Mosley]

Vampire flies.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yes. That's kind of cool, though. I like vampires.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, guys, it's time for the saddest part of the show. The end where I have to let Kimia go. But first, scammer of the week. So this is a segment where we highlight a charlatan who may be worthy or not of our praise. And we're just gonna see. This week we're talking about a manga artist who has been scammed out of 75 million yen, approximately $500,000, by a scammer who claimed that he was Mark Ruffalo.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Wait, huh?

[Lacey Mosley]

This is a lot of jumps. Why y'all got Mark Ruffalo in here?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Hang on. That sounded like a mad lib. The thing you just read. I cannot believe this.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a Cards against humanity. You just like slapped out a bunch of shit. Yes. A manga artist scammed out of 75 million yen by someone.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Mark Ruffalo. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Who said they were Mark Ruffalo, who, as far as I know, was a standup guy.

[Kimia Bornoia]

What? Oh, yeah. I thought you meant a standup comedian. I was like, no, man, that's Hulk and Hulk's not funny.

[Lacey Mosley]

Hulk be funnier. Give us comedy. Hulk. Why all the anger? So Chick Eye adei is a 74 year old manga artist most recently known for her book Poison Love. So this is Chick Eye.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh, she's so cute.

[Lacey Mosley]

And look at her book.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Look at that.

[Lacey Mosley]

She was first approached in 2018 on Facebook by a man claiming to be Mark Ruffalo.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Facebook, Sweetie, no one's on there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nobody is. And definitely no celebrities. If you get approached by a celebrity on Facebook, just know is fake.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, it's fake book.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay?

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Facebook is for conspiracy theories, Republican propaganda.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

And just like the worst quotes on the ugliest sunset backgrounds that your mom will send to you as inspiration. That is all Facebook is for. So she was approached in 2018 on Facebook, right. By this guy who's like, I'm Mark Ruffalo and I'm on Facebook because, you know, that makes sense. She says, he said he respected my work and he said that I, this old lady, am beautiful. His words gripped my heart.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This makes me sad.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know. So JK was in abusive marriage in her 30s and had not remarried after her divorce. During the first few months of their dating, the scammer used deep fake technology to look like Mark Ruffalo during video calls.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Do you think this woman knew who Mark Ruffalo. Rufflo was?

[Lacey Mosley]

She probably had Google him. And, like, Mark Ruffalo looks like every other white man.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Who is a white man.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, that's true.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, you know, so I'm not. And he was deep faking video calls. So this is a deeper level scam.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Because normally it costs you money to do that. Scam.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. And normally, like, if you send Facebook email or Facebook emails, I don't even know how to send messages on Facebook. But, you know, like, if you correspond in a medium where you don't show your face, like, that seems more scammy to me. But if he's getting on FaceTime with, like, the fake Mark Ruffalo face, I. This is. This is bad. So that was enough to convince Chique, and the couple unofficially married in September the same year. So y'all married.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This has gone too far.

[Lacey Mosley]

FaceTime.

[Kimia Bornoia]

This has gone too far. Fine. Fake data. Celebrity on Facebook. But once they say we're getting married, you go, hang on.

[Lacey Mosley]

Some celebrity was in the chapel in Las Vegas, and he was like, all right, call me right now.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Now you just wheeled in a tablet. Then Elvis married you too.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no. Ch. I feel bad for you, sis. Boy. Not long after, her new husband asked her for money to the point where she sold her possessions, including original artwork, delayed paying her assistant, fell behind on her bills, and was even forced to use her older son's savings to help her lover. Now, Ch. I was like, now whoever your assistant was is like, hey, Chike, the check's not clear for this new manga book. The printer said the ink ain't inking, and we really need our money. Chike was like, look, I gotta help Mark Ruffalo. Cause Shantae will be poor.

[Kimia Bornoia]

My husband online.

[Lacey Mosley]

Them Hulk movies ain't hulking like they used to.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right. He said he needs my help.

[Lacey Mosley]

Mark Ruffalo said every time he rip a shirt in the Hulk movie, they make it pay for it. So you gotta get him some coins. What? G.K. no. Oh. But they were married on FaceTime. I feel bad for the sun, too, because not you using my savings.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. She ultimately sent most of her sponsorship contract with Gucci worth 35 million yen at the time, she was sponsored by Gucci. For her, she was a bad bitch.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I mean, yeah, that's good.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, Gucci got a partnership with Adidas.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Why not Manga 1, right? That's what Manga.

[Lacey Mosley]

Don't kill me.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Manga, Manga, manga, manga.

[Lacey Mosley]

Either one. Y'all know what we talking about. So it took close to four years, but with the help of her daughter, Chige eventually broke the cycle and ended the relationship. Damn well.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Took you long enough.

[Lacey Mosley]

Four years is too long. Cheeke. But I understand you were in a bad situation and this person was probably being very doting and loving on you.

[Kimia Bornoia]

They feel good.

[Lacey Mosley]

They do. And you feel special.

[Kimia Bornoia]

If you think Mark Ruffalo likes your romance comics.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You see the COVID of that thing? It looked really. They get. They bone in those mangas. Oh, yeah, look at this.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, it's giving horny. It is very horny. Yeah. But I'm also like, bro, if here's the thing I don't understand about celebrities, like people cosplaying celebrities and saying like, oh, okay, I need money. If you're famous and rich, why the do you need money? For me, like, that would be my first question. That should be your first question is, why do anybody who asks for money. Your first question to yourself before you respond should be, why do you need money from me?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yes. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

And why can't you go get your own money?

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

And even if it's a valid answer, you don't got to give them the money.

[Kimia Bornoia]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

If people ask you for money and you don't enthusiastically, like, feel immediately like, oh, I should give them money. I have plenty of money. Money is a tool. I'll share it. If you have to think for a second, the answer is no. Your body is telling.

[Kimia Bornoia]

That's right. If anyone asks you anything, set a timer for seven minutes and just stand there in front of them. Just stand there for seven minutes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Don't speak. Just literally turn it on like a kitchen timer and just sit there. No response.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Nope.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just blinking.

[Kimia Bornoia]

And then you'll figure it out by the end of that seven minutes. And you can add that to another chapter in your book, Lacy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, see, now we got more than the post it note. Love this. For us, Chige recently published both a novel and a manga based on her experience. She says it was such a stupid experience, but I hope people can take it as a lesson. I apologize to my friends, acquaintances who lent me money while I, you know, refused to listen to them. And I swear I will continue to draw manga until I die to pay them back. Now, chicken. Oh, now, first of all, I guess you just. You said friends and acquaintances. What about your son? That doesn't include your son. Like, are you saying your son the homie cause you took his savings?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Well, I don't know. I think it's like a similar culture to Persians where it's like your children have to deal with all of your bullshit. We gotta take care of our parents and.

[Lacey Mosley]

But you're not gonna apologize to them.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I don't think that that's built into at least Persian culture. There's not a lot of apologizing up or down.

[Lacey Mosley]

Understood. As a fellow minority. However, if you want to apologize to the friends and acquaintances, where does the son fall in? Is he a friend or an acquaintance?

[Kimia Bornoia]

No, just family. And you can do whatever the heck you want to your family. That's as far as I understand.

[Lacey Mosley]

Chike or chikai. I've been saying chike the whole time. But chikai. It's chikai. Chikai. I don't. Chikai.

[Kimia Bornoia]

You got words.

[Lacey Mosley]

You really fumbled the bag here, sis.

[Kimia Bornoia]

I will read your manga though.

[Lacey Mosley]

Your manga looks fire. And whatever we have to do to support Chikai's manga so she can pay everybody back for fake Mark Ruffalo. Yeah, and fake Mark Ruffalo. You're a bad dude. Or person. We don't know how you identify or who you are. Clearly you were never found out. And you just got to make a lot of money on a sweet older woman who. I mean, at least you waited till y'all got fake married.

[Kimia Bornoia]

Yeah, sure. That's moral.

[Lacey Mosley]

All right, guys, as always, gimme a. We ask our guest on the show. Where would you like to be found? Any socials? Anything you want people to watch?

[Kimia Bornoia]

Oh yeah. Oudclown on Instagram and watch Reboot on Hulu.

[Lacey Mosley]

Woo hoo. Yes. I was at the premiere of Reboot. I saw you there. It's a very fun show on Hulu. Love you, Kimmy. I love radio. Rachel Bloom. Karama's in it as well. Check it out. It's really, really fun. It's really good. As always, guys. Scamgottispotgmail.com Snitch on your friends, your family and your sons who you never have to apologize to. If you want to find all the photos, it'll be on Scamgotta's pod. And if you want to find me. D I V A L A C I D Valacy on all platforms. Congregation stay manga. This has been an earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Garcbo, engineered by Ryan Connor and Abby Aguilar. Our researcher is Kaelyn Brandt. Stay Scheming Netcredit is here to say yes because you're more than a credit score. Apply in minutes and get a decision as soon as the same day. Loan Loans offered by Netcredit or lending partner banks and serviced by Netcredit. Applications subject to review and approval. Learn [e-mail] partners netcredit credit to the people at Ameca Insurance, we know it's more than just a house. It's your home. The place that's filled with memories. The early days of figuring it out to the later years of still figuring it out for the place you've put down roots. Trust Amica Home Insurance Amica Empathy is our best policy.