Fraud Friday: The Real Hustlers behind Hustlers w/ Mo Heart

Summary

Fraud Friday: The Real Hustlers behind Hustlers with Monique Hart

Episode Release Date: April 25, 2025

Introduction In this gripping episode of Fraud Friday, hosted by the charismatic Laci Mosley (a.k.a. Scam Goddess), the spotlight shines on the intricate world of scamming within the entertainment industry and beyond. Joined by the multifaceted Monique Hart, known for her role in iCarly and Better Call Saul, the duo delves deep into real-life hustlers, dissecting their schemes and the implications they have on society.

Guest Spotlight: Monique Hart Monique Hart brings a wealth of experience and insight into the discussion, sharing her personal encounters with scams and her expertise in staying ahead of fraudulent activities.

• Monique Hart (02:13): "I'm intrigued by them. I like to know what they are to stay abreast and ahead of the bullshit."

Current Scams in the Digital Age Laci and Monique examine prevalent scams on dating apps, particularly focusing on Grindr. They highlight how scammers exploit the fears and vulnerabilities of users, especially within marginalized communities.

• Laci Mosley (10:01): "So, Cupcake, I don't know if you'll see this, and I'm not sure if you've ever covered this scam before, but I thought I'd share one of the oldest Grindr scams in the book in honor of Pride Month."

In-Depth Analysis: The Hustlers Scam The conversation transitions to a detailed analysis of the real-life events that inspired the movie Hustlers. Laci and Monique recount the story of four women and one man indicted for drugging men and charging exorbitant amounts to their credit cards at New York City clubs.

• Laci Mosley (24:10): "So we gonna give y'all all the tea that you might not have gotten in the movie because you were too mesmerized by JLO on that pole."

The Operation Breakdown The episode meticulously breaks down the scam operations, revealing how the conspirators manipulated their victims through charm and deceit. They discuss the recruitment of sex workers and the unethical use of substances like MDMA and ketamine to control their targets.

• Monique Hart (38:33): "Ketamine is like the new party drug that doesn't give you any kind of hangover or whatever. So you're like, woo."

Legal Consequences and Fallout As the scam escalates, tensions rise among the conspirators, leading to their eventual downfall. The discussion covers the legal repercussions faced by the individuals involved, including cooperation with authorities and the impact of high-profile lawsuits.

• Laci Mosley (43:06): "So the women were charged with conspiracy, forgery, assault, and grand larceny. They all pled guilty to the charges."

Scammer of the Week: Christopher Crouch In the final segment, Scammer of the Week, the hosts highlight Christopher Crouch, a Florida man facing 104 felony counts for identity theft and fraudulent purchases. They dissect his methods, the impact on victims, and the broader implications of such scams on the community.

• Laci Mosley (49:35): "He was scamming on a budget."

Key Takeaways and Insights

• Evolving Scams: Scammers continuously adapt their methods, leveraging technology and psychological manipulation to deceive victims.
• Vulnerability of Marginalized Communities: Scams often target individuals in marginalized groups, exploiting their unique fears and challenges.
• Legal and Social Implications: The episode underscores the importance of legal awareness and the need for stricter regulations to combat sophisticated scams.

Notable Quotes

• Laci Mosley (07:04): "Faced with a choice, she reconnected with Samantha Barbash... which was taking too long."
• Monique Hart (33:02): "It's bullshit. And this is why more strip clubs need to be run by women."

Conclusion This episode of Fraud Friday offers a compelling exploration of the dark art of scamming, blending humor with serious discourse. Laci Mosley and Monique Hart provide listeners with both entertainment and valuable knowledge on identifying and understanding fraudulent schemes. As always, the Scam Goddess reminds her congregation to "stay scheming" in their vigilant pursuit against fraud.

Additional Information

• Upcoming Content: The Scam Goddess TV show based on the podcast premieres on Freeform and Hulu on January 15th.
• Stay Connected: Follow Laci Mosley on various social platforms and explore Monique Hart’s upcoming projects, including her skincare line Mo Beauty and her podcast Ace of Hearts.

Final Thoughts Whether you're a long-time listener or new to Scam Goddess, this episode provides essential insights into the mechanics of scamming, ensuring you're better equipped to recognize and protect yourself from fraudulent activities. Join Laci and Monique in their mission to unveil the humorous side of fraud while educating their audience on the serious ramifications of deceit.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Monique Hart (02:13): "I'm intrigued by them. I like to know what they are to stay abreast and ahead of the bullshit."
• Laci Mosley (10:01): "So, Cupcake, I don't know if you'll see this... one of the oldest Grindr scams..."
• Laci Mosley (24:10): "So we gonna give y'all all the tea that you might not have gotten in the movie..."
• Monique Hart (38:33): "Ketamine is like the new party drug..."
• Laci Mosley (43:06): "So the women were charged with conspiracy, forgery, assault, and grand larceny..."

Stay Scheming!

Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Monique Hart]

Cause Robbery and Frau Scam Ca Rob.

[Lacey Mosley]

Goddess. What's Poppin Congregation? It's your girl, Scam Goddess, AKA Lacy Mosley. And we're back for another installment of what Scam Goddess. Guys, if you're not watching icarly, please tune in. Help us get her coins. Okay, Paramount plus. Get Paramount plus. Stop playing with me. Okay? And, guys, I'm super. What? Yes. Excited. I know y'all said it with me. I love y'all. We friends, right? I love y'all. Guys. I'm super excited. I always am excited. We get the best guests on the show, bro. I got another RuPaul's Drag Race alum. Can you believe it? What a scam. We've had Trixie Mattel. We've had a bunch of RuPaul's Drag Race, like, icons. And so I'm into it. I'm so excited. But you also know this person from their skincare line, Mo Beauty, which you can be purchasing on the webs, on the Interwebs. Mo Beauty. Guys, we're talking about Monique Hart. Monique Hart is in the building. I do my own Jamaican air horn.

[Monique Hart]

Is that what it is? The Jamaican air horn?

[Lacey Mosley]

I live. Yes. So we do our own Jamaican air horn. And I wish that you guys could see Monique right now because she's giving. Like, this is a podcast that y'all getting through your ears. But just visualize a Babbage. Just know, like, she's giving. Like, this area that she's in, it's giving, you know, background, you know, the microphone. Her eyes are giving, the lashes are giving, the face is giving. The. All these eyeshadows are giving. Like. Yes. I'm so excited. Yes, yes, yes.

[Monique Hart]

Okay, I'm just doing some makeup. Cause after sending some stuff for Ms. Rihanta for fantasy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God. And she's savage.

[Monique Hart]

They were like, do a pride inspired.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, yes.

[Monique Hart]

And so I had to dig deep. I had to dig deep because, you know, Rihanna doesn't have, like, pigment, like, blue pinks. Da, da, da, da. She has a pigment palette. It has, like, shimmery. You know?

[Lacey Mosley]

She loves the shimmer.

[Monique Hart]

Yeah, she loves the shimmer. So I'm like, ooh, what can I. How can I do this? So I said, let's give him, like, a reverse kind of light, you know? You know, ombre moment.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then, I mean, well, your bone structure is doing all the work. So. Truly, thank you. Truly. The products will shine no matter what they are on your face. Yes. Oh, my God. I love this. I'm so close to a Savage Fenty influencer. This is wonderful for me. Cause, listen, I don't know when Rihanna's ever gonna listen or release some music again. So you know what I'm gonna do? Listen to these lipstick tubes. I'm gonna listen to this eyeshadow. I'm gonna listen to this highlighter, baby.

[Monique Hart]

Cause she said, sing a song. Go on a tour. I know. I'mma sit here. I'm gonna give y'all these quality cosmetics. Quality. The skincare is actually really good. I started using it. Girl. It's right. It is.

[Lacey Mosley]

It is. Okay. I haven't used that yet. I've used a lot of the makeup, right?

[Monique Hart]

The cleanser is, like, really, really good. It's not, like, overly soapy, but it does, like, get in there. And then the fat boy toner, it's like thick gel, girl. But it goes in, and it'll be.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, all right, S. Rihanna. Rihanna. Sponsor the show, honey, because we love you. And you know what? Rihanna's makeup is one of the only celebrity makeups I've ever seen in a trailer. Like, when I go to work at icarly, they use fenty and a mix of some other makeup forever and some other things on my face every single week. Like the. So the makeup girls, they said yes. They co sign. Because, listen, Kim K's products. I've never seen a Kim K product in a makeup trailer. And then, look, I don't know the products.

[Monique Hart]

She knows her clientele.

[Lacey Mosley]

But you know what I have seen on set for Kim K, which I love Kim K Spanx. Those skims.

[Monique Hart]

I was just about to say the Spanx girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's her ministry. That's her ministry. That is her ministry. Like, those are so good. I'm sorry, y'all, but I gotta stand by Kim K. Spanx because she knows what she's doing.

[Monique Hart]

I wanna kind of get her.

[Lacey Mosley]

She said that you should. Cause back in the day, she said that she used to tape two sets of Spanx together and do all this stuff and like dip it, cut it in the back, which was really gagging.

[Monique Hart]

Can we talk about that for.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Monique Hart]

When she came out and she was like, I'm using all of these shapes and whatnot. Cause you know the girls was going to the doctor to get the body done right? And you got the body done and you still wearing the shapers. She could have saved her money and just bought the skim.

[Lacey Mosley]

See, and her skims, are they good? They good. Cause she said I learned how to cut it in the back so I can have a backless dress but still have the smacked up top. So she knows that's what she's doing with those. Kim can't sponsor us too. I love scams anyway. But Monique, I have to ask you.

[Monique Hart]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

What is your relationship with scams? Are you a scammer? Have you been scammed? Do you love scams? Do you hate them? We don't care. I just wanna know where you are on the side of the scam.

[Monique Hart]

I'm intrigued by them. I like to know what they are to stay abreast and ahead of the bullshit, you know, like the credit card game scam has been going on for a minute now. But you gotta careful. Even when your server comes up with these new like phones and whatnot. Cause while you didn't open your cell phone with your credit card right there, they didn't bloop, bloop. Took a little photo, you know what I mean? I was watching this thing on. Was it Amazon Prime? And it was this black queer. Actually, now she is trans. Excuse me, but she was just saying, like back in the 90s, she knew like MasterCard, their numbers always started with this and like American Express starts with that. So she knew how I was.

[Lacey Mosley]

You better get it.

[Monique Hart]

And they trying to overhead and say that we slow anyway. Yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. And that's where I lie too. I'm always intrigued. If it's a scam that doesn't hurt anybody, then I'm all for it. I'm like, do it. Capitalism is a scam. American government is a scam. So get involved. Do what you need to do to survive and do what you need to do to thrive.

[Monique Hart]

Just be a little Smarter, though. I just feel like sometimes people get a little too greedy. I be like, boo, boo, you had more than enough.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, but see, that's the thing. Not about the money for some scammers. Some scammers just love to scam. They get high on the con and then they can't stop. Some scammers like Jay Z, they know when to cash out. Jay Z always talked about selling crack, and then he said, I don't sell crack no more. You know, Now I sell title to the white man, you know? So you gotta. You gotta elevate, but at least elevate.

[Monique Hart]

The scam, but don't keep the same. You know what I mean?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Monique Hart]

You like? I love watching CSI and all the crack, like, the cop shows, and they be like, it was the person. They had, like, their little scam going for, like, a year, and it was year two. And then blue, blue. You should have, you know, change it up six months, try something different. I'm not saying you should be scamming me, but I'm saying try something different.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, scamming is a profession. It's just like any other business. And if you want to be in business, you always have to evolve. Look at what happened to Blockbuster with Netflix. If Blockbuster had been like, hey, girls, we got an app. Blockbuster would still be in this bitch. But instead, they were like, we gonna keep selling these tapes and these Raisinets in the store. And didn't realize that times were changing. The scams were changing. They should have scammed and elevated.

[Monique Hart]

Do you remember in the 90s where you had the credit card on, like, paper? It was like the credit card application on paper, and it'd be like, apply for the gold card.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no, I don't remember that.

[Monique Hart]

Oh, which one? Sound a little too old? Okay, anyway, so they'd be like, apply for the gold.

[Lacey Mosley]

You are perfect. Okay, so in the 90s, I was like. I was born in 91. So. Yeah.

[Monique Hart]

Oh, okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Never mind. No, still tell. Still tell. A lot of people were grown in the 90s or in their teens. Like, please.

[Monique Hart]

Right, so you had the, like. It was like the cardstock application for, like, the MasterCard, but it was like a gold credit card or platinum credit card. And you were supposed to cut it and then use that clear packing tape. And you had to layer it just right to kind of laminate it if you didn't have a laminator machine. But it was only just so you could just slam it down and be like, bitch, why? But you had to pick it up really quick because they would see that it said John Lee or something like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, girl, I love this for you. I love this so much. But, guys, let's get into our first segment here. What's hot and fraud. This is where we warn the listeners about a scam that's popping in the Zeitgeist. Or more often than not, we read your letters. And as always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, scamgodispodmail.com just make sure your scam is retired, because we don't want to, what, fuck up your bag, you know? So, Monique, I need a fake name. I need a fake name for this scammer.

[Monique Hart]

A fake name. Let's go. The first thing that came to my head was cupcake.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cupcake. I love cupcake. So cupcake says, happy Pride Month. Okay, Cupcake, I don't know if you'll see this, and I'm not sure if you've ever covered this scam before, but I thought I'd share one of the oldest grinder scams in the book in honor of Pride Month. Okay. I'm not sure who is falling for this, but I came across it at least once a month. Basically, what happens in this scam is a faceless profile will message you saying they're very interested in you and they're looking for dates, hookups, and more. And if you're new to the app, it sounds just normal enough to sound real. Wow. So, Monique, I'm not on Grindr. Have you ever been on Grindr?

[Monique Hart]

Approached me, Girl, I was, oh, I almost had a sugar daddy. Girl, he almost got me.

[Lacey Mosley]

The fact that this per. That cupcake is saying it's absolutely normal for you to be on a dating app, and someone says, I'm looking for dates, hookups, and more like, I'm on. And no one's ever said that to me, so I'm like, okay.

[Monique Hart]

I think also. Well, you know, maybe not. I think Cupcake might be of the vanilla persuasion. Cause they talk to them like that. They don't talk to me like that on Grind.

[Lacey Mosley]

They don't say they're looking for dates, hookups, and more.

[Monique Hart]

Uh, uh, bitch. I get, like, bent over booties, crunchy booty hoes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ooh, lovely.

[Monique Hart]

Like, not even a good cat. I'd be like, sir, just. I don't want that. No, thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Dick pics are bad enough. Because, look, if you're out there, sometimes.

[Monique Hart]

I, you know, I finally turned 35 and I was like, you know what? Some dicks are not attractive. When I was, you know, 34 and back. I was like, no lies. They are just gorgeous. No, Some of these hoes didn't get a good one.

[Lacey Mosley]

They didn't. It's not cute.

[Monique Hart]

The head is like weird. The skin and then if it like, oof, never mind.

[Lacey Mosley]

But here's the thing. I think that any dick that you have, no matter what you identify as, is beautiful if you light it right and shoot it right. And that's the issue with dick pics. I like men out there, all who identify as men and also non binary people. If you got penises, put some light on the penis. Don't shoot it in your bathroom. Definitely don't have your toilet in the back. Like, give us some ambiance and don't send it unsolicited. You need to be reaching out saying, may I send you a picture of my penis? And then they need to be saying, of course. And then you send it. And it's got good lighting. If you want to go on an airbrush app and throw a sepia on it. If you want to throw a Paris filter on it, you know, do that too. Make it cute. Cute.

[Monique Hart]

Please vacuum your rugs. If you just going to somebody said, and you can. Oh, you don't vacuum your floor right.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's like, people have no shame. I'm like, you're sending me a dick pic. I can see your laundry in the back. Yeah, like, that's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at your laundry on the.

[Monique Hart]

Floor, all on the mirror. Not attractive.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not attractive.

[Monique Hart]

You don't wash your countertops. I'm scared to go in your bathroom.

[Lacey Mosley]

If you don't wash your countertops. I don't think you wash your ass. I'm black. Okay. And when we wash dishes, we wash the countertop too. You got to wash everything in the bathroom as well. You know, like, keep it cute from the top.

[Monique Hart]

Work your way down. Okay. Okay. So anyway.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. So you know, that's what this cupcakes grinder experience is, right? So they saying, come on out. You know, dates and more. Okay. So as you message them, they say they want to make sure they are safe with you and want to make you sign up for PSC Perfect Safety Companion. I have heard about this scam. PSC Perfect Safety Companion. We have heard about this scam, but it's been a minute. So they want to verify that they're safe with you. When I was a baby gay, I actually went to the website. In order to sign up, it requires you to put in your credit Card information as a part of the verification website or process. Rather with a pre checked box requesting that anything from the site not appear on your bank account statements for so called privacy reasons. Huh. So. So I don't like a pre check box. I hate when you buy something from a store and the box is already checked. Like, can we send you emails every day we your best friend? No, I always for that box and I'm unchecking it. Don't bother me. So when you reply to the scammer, they say you'll never be charged and that they only want credit card information in case you buy merch from the site. Why would I buy merch? Why aren't we on a dating app? I'm trying to have sex or date. I'm not trying to buy merch merch Like I. Billy. Like what? What is the merge? What is the merge?

[Monique Hart]

That's a business opportunity and dick.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, so I don't know. That's curious to me. Obviously, there are a lot of holes in the scam, but the worst part is that if you question it in the slightest way, they send a sob story about the last time they met up with someone, they experienced some sort of tragic hate crime. Typically getting beat up by four guys for no reason. But sometimes the story fluctuates. I imagine this scam is very effective on people new to Grindr because a lot of us have had some sort of trauma for our sexual orientation. And I'm assuming that a lot of people fall for this. Yeah, that's so true. Because, you know, hate in the LGBTQ I+ community is rapid. It's prevalent, especially if we're talking about our trans brothers and sisters, and especially if you're talking about black trans women. You know, it's really, really hard. And that would. I could absolutely see that being something that would trigger people or be like, well, let me sign up for this site because I want to be safe too. Because now you kind of are involving the other person and being like, they're worried about it. And then you're kind of worried about it now that they've said it. So I imagine the scam is probably very effective. Right. So in my early days on the app, the only reason I didn't fall for it was I noticed the pictures they were sending weren't even of the same person. Now, I tend to play along when these scammers do this, of course, because you obviously love scams, Cupcake. And one time I asked if I could join their team and they blocked me. Cupcake. Now you trying to get involved.

[Monique Hart]

I want some money. Give me a little piece of corn, little piece of churn.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cupcake said, look, I know what y'all doing over there, and I want to get involved. Oh, Lord, I love this for you. Okay, so it says anyway, if you're in the LGBTQ or any minority in using dating apps, I'm sure this scam happens in many different forms. So to stay safe out there, never give your credit card information out, no matter how sad the story is. Love you, Lacey. And I can't wait to see icarly. Oh, thank you. Okay, just real quick.

[Monique Hart]

So that's an old common one. The new common one is when you give me a photo of, like, an older, muscular white gentleman, or he's like, Persian looking, like, oily.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like he got some coin. Like he got some.

[Monique Hart]

Right, right. They hook you up and they be like, oh, are you looking for a daddy? You know, I'm just older and single, and I just would love to take care of somebody. Oh, wait a minute, bitch. And if you go out there, you look at that, you go, bitch, I know I'm cute bit. I've been praying all my life, okay? And then they be like, look, how can I send you some money? And I'd be like. And they'd be like, if you send me your credit card information, I'll wire, da, da, da, da, da. And that's it. Well, why won't you send it through Venmo or Zelle?

[Lacey Mosley]

Or if you're a real scammer, cash app? Why. Why do I need. First of all, how you gonna put the money on my credit card? That's not how credit cards work.

[Monique Hart]

I don't know. But, yeah, that's how they do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's the thing too, is, like, I've learned even on dating apps, like, especially when you're dark skinned in a city like Los Angeles, like, there's so much colorism that we get relegated to the back so much that some people will, like, be like, oh, I love. Oh, my God. I went and I talked about this on the podcast already, so I'm not gonna get into it, but I went on a date with a guy and I realized afterwards he said, I love dark skinned women with a brown heart emoji in his profile. And I should have known better because he was black. So why do you have to say that? Like, it's weird. And he was dark skinned, so I was like, why are you saying that? Are you trying to be like, you should be so lucky that I A black man like you, like, it was weird.

[Monique Hart]

But, you know, that's another scam of how they scam your emotions into affirming. I feel like that is something that when they go after the brown girls, the brown guys, the brown, them, they's and thems, and give that affirmation, because it's like a target audience that doesn't hear that. So then you get to scam emotions or whatever, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause, like, and I always do this caveat. I know it's a coastal situation. 82% of black people are married to other black people in middle America. But when you come to la, it's a whole different ballpark.

[Monique Hart]

But I'm in Palm Springs, honey. It ain't nothing out here that look like me or young.

[Lacey Mosley]

So I'd be like, ooh, but I love you living your life. I hope you're by a pool in Palm Springs. I love Palm Springs.

[Monique Hart]

Right here.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. I love that for you.

[Monique Hart]

Okay, real quick, just because we're talking about scams on dating apps, did you please hear about that little. It was a little white girl. She said that Bill Gates. Cause, you know, he recently came out as single, a divorce from his wife. And Bill Gates was, like, flirting with her and was like, I'm gonna send you some money. And so she took her banking information. And then the next morning she woke up and it was like, close to $3,000.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, damn.

[Monique Hart]

Oh, yeah, damn. No, I said, bill Gates is getting the girls, bitch.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yo, that's somebody who's really keeping up with the news because it said, bill Gates is single. Bet. Let me put his face on the app and let me tell the girls that I'm Bill Gates. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna send you. Somebody send me your banking and routing number and PIN and mother's maiden name, and then I'ma send you some coin. Wow.

[Monique Hart]

Have her. And I go, you didn't even look at the Instagram. Like, it all happened on Instagram.

[Lacey Mosley]

Guys, if anybody approaches you on Insta saying they're a celebrity, go to the page, and if the shit ain't verified, run. And also, never give up your banking information. People don't need that to send you money. It's not a necessity to send you money. So do not give up your banking information. And if somebody can't send it through the normal channels of Zelle Venmo Cash app, if they scam and PayPal if they're regular, like, then don't do it. Like, don't do it. If they're not sending you friends and family. PayPal, they're not your friend on your family. And like, Google it, tell them that.

[Monique Hart]

Cause that's the truth. Cause somebody will jack your money up when they send it, like a business deal or whatever. It's supposed to be $800, and you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Get 785 because PayPal's like, oh, business. You said business. Oh, we need to cut a business. We gonna take a cut of the business. If that's your cousin, fine. But if it's business, then we. We need ours. PayPal's like, we need to get our things. So, guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non scam advertisements. We'll be right back with historic hoodwinks. Okay, let's talk about hair. Y'all know when your hair kind of gets, like, greasy and. And you need to wash it, but you don't have time to wash it? Especially if you have a lot of hair. Y'all know that's a whole day. Enter Batiste Light. It's Batiste Lightest, driest shampoo. Batiste Light blends in seamlessly with your hair, leaving none of that white residue. And your hair looks clean and it feels clean. Okay. Plus, Batiste Light effectively absorbs oil and grease without weighing it down. It's a total game changer for amazing second or third day hair. Okay. And if you're black, you know, might be a little longer because, hello, I like Batiste Light because whenever my hair is feeling, like, greasy or oily, you know, when I've wrapped it too many times or whatever, I can put that in my hair and it kind of wakes it back up, you know what I mean? Without it looking white or powdery or, you know, like, I just put a bunch of baby powder in my. You know what I mean? Buy Petis Light Dry Shampoo online or in store at your nearest retailer. Some people get a haircut or book a spontaneous trip when life throws them a curveball. But Molly, she went a little further. After a life changing diagnosis, she drove headfirst into a world of no strings attached sex, secret rendezvous, forbidden affairs, sexcapades, and unforgettable adventures. It wasn't just about pleasure. It was about feeling alive, embracing desire, and rewriting her own story. And every wild, outrageous, heartfelt detail unfolds in Dying for Sex, Wondery's award winning podcast that's now a TV series starring Michelle Williams and Jenny Slate. But there's even more to the story. In brand new bonus episodes, host Nikki Boyer sits down with the cast to spill all the spicy details from behind the scenes moments to what it's like bringing Molly's unforgettable journey to life, desire, friendship, self discovery, and the ultimate bucket list of pleasure.

[Monique Hart]

This.

[Lacey Mosley]

This story had everyone talking. Listen to the original Dying for Sex. Plus new bonus episodes. Wherever you get your podcast, binge the original series before anyone else. And we are back. And it's time for my favorite part of the show, Historic Hoodwinks, where I will regale Monique with a famous con caper. Group of criminals. Single criminal, we don't know yet. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. We always find out by the end, right? We're on this journey together. So today we're talking about four women and one man. On June 11, 2014, four women and one man were indicted for drugging men and charging thousands of dollars on their credit cards at a New York City club or several clubs. If you haven't guessed it by now, this is the story of Hustlers. So we gonna give y'all all the tea that you might not have gotten in the movie because you were too mesmerized by JLO on that poll. When I tell you, when I saw Hustlers in theaters with JLO on that pole, I cried. And I'm not even joking because I'm an actress. And there's this thing about acting where you're kind of tied to your youth as a woman and you think like once you get past a certain age, you have to really fight hard for people not to discard you. So to see a 50 year old bad bitch on a pole bringing the house down, I was like, this is beautiful. Like, this is revolutionary.

[Monique Hart]

The one part where that man, she did the spread evil and then she got up on her knees and then did the motorboat. I said, you know, that man went home and was like, bitch, JLo. And you know, they probably had to do that scene more than one cut. Okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh yeah, you did it several times.

[Monique Hart]

Oh my gosh.

[Lacey Mosley]

He got JLO titties several times. Are you kidding? That man is blessed, okay? That man went and got a lotto ticket. He was like, I'm luckiest man in the world. I'ma win today. Like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? That man was black. And I mean, that movie was fire, you know, so. And I thought JLO did deserve an Oscar nomination for that, simply for the fact that I think that she didn't get it because it's, you know, the Oscars voting committee is a lot of old white men and they probably just think like, oh, JLO on a poll. That's easy for her. She was 50 and she was doing tricks I can't do and I'm half her age. Are you fucking kidding me? Like, maybe it was right. She did the damn thing. And like, her acting wasn't bad either. It was cute. So I was like, y'all are playing. Y'all should at least gave her a nom for that. You know, maybe she doesn't win.

[Monique Hart]

I would for sure give her a nom for that. I think, like, her acting was very Whatever I felt she's done better in other performances.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, she was giving Maida Manhattan. She was giving with jlo. Gives. She gives Maida Manhattan. She gives enough. She gives Selena. And like, you love it and you live. But that poll work.

[Monique Hart]

But baby, okay, that's hard.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I dare any of those old dudes who vote for the Oscars to hop up on a fucking poll and see how hard that is. It is hard.

[Monique Hart]

Well, girl, you might be surprised.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the story of hustlers, right? They allegedly ran a Robin Hood style scheme, stealing from those that they viewed as rich and entitled and keeping money for themselves in an industry and economy that had repeatedly done them wrong. Absolutely. You know, like, sex working. Like, that's the thing that I hate about the sex work industry is everyone wants to shame it. Everyone wants to say, like, oh, if you do this, you're deplorable. However, most of those people partake in the sex work industry. So it's like you showing up to the strip club and throwing ones on a bachelorette party. You hiring strippers for your bachelorette or bachelor party. You fucking going, you know, to the club. You watching porn. Cuz, honey, pornhub, they're busy every day. They're one of the most frequented sites in the fucking world. Right?

[Monique Hart]

Which they shouldn't because they're trying.

[Lacey Mosley]

So can we stop acting like these people are less than? They're doing a service and a job that people love.

[Monique Hart]

I think they should charge more.

[Lacey Mosley]

They should, because they're doing a job and a service that people love and that people find necessary. And we all need to stop shaming it because it's fucking weird.

[Monique Hart]

It's like, come on now, business in the world.

[Lacey Mosley]

Jesus was kicking it with Mary Magdalene. So why can't you, bitch? Like, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

[Monique Hart]

Tax collectors and the prostitutes get it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, so stop playing with me. Jesus knew that sex work was lit. So stop playing with me, okay? Mary always got in the club. You know, so, like, let's. If Jesus was turning water into wine, he was like, here you go, Mary. Here's a cup. Let's stop playing, you know, I'm just saying. So five years later, they would become the subject of Jennifer Lopez and Constance Wu, starring in the film Hustlers, directed by Lorena Scefkaria, obviously, or Scafaria. Excuse me. So, the beginning, Rosalynn, AKA Rosie Kao, grew up in Rockland County, New York. I don't know where the hell that is. I know it's not the city. Rockland county, honey, that's outside the city. Rosie dropped out of school at 17 to work and help her household. She found a job as a waitress at a diner in Nantucket, New York. Many of her customers were employees and customers of Lace, the nearby gentleman's club. Okay. One night, one of Lace's managers suggested that she stopped by the club and see if she was interested in making some coin. So Rosie was a bad. And whoever was coming in this diner after the club getting a waffles, you know, they were like, oh, you real bad. Do you. Would you like to partake in more money? Money? I'm not mad at it. Rosie stopped by the next day, lied about her age, and landed a job as a dancer. Eventually, she wanted to make more than. Okay, so here's the thing. She could have lied about her age, but if they accepted it without formal identification and stuff, they knew. When you're 17, you look 17, you look like a baby. Like, I ain't never seen a 17 year old. My sister's 17. I've never seen a baby, a 17 year old that didn't look like a baby. So they knew. They probably knew.

[Monique Hart]

No. Depending on where you from and what them genetics look like, girl, you know, like, they just built.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's true.

[Monique Hart]

Cause I'm built just different, sis.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know a 35 year old who looks like a high schooler. So you're right. Some people build different. Some people build different. They don't age the same. You're right about that.

[Monique Hart]

Jayla was 50 on the poll. So clearly.

[Lacey Mosley]

Clearly, you're right about that. You're. You're absolutely right about that. So. And I don't wanna implicate the people who hired her.

[Monique Hart]

There are the ones that. Look, we have. We've all lived and seen folks in places. And we go, you shouldn't be here, little boo Boo. But okay, we watching you. All right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Right, we gonna let you live, but also we not gonna let you die.

[Monique Hart]

Stop, Martha. Okay, bitch, look, turn Up. But, bitch, if somebody look a little too handy. Wait a minute. That's my sister. Back, bitch.

[Lacey Mosley]

Up. Back up. Right, back. Up, up. Back the fuck up. Yes, absolutely.

[Monique Hart]

Okay, now go over here and go shake your ass somewhere else. Okay, Right, right, right. Find somebody else.

[Lacey Mosley]

But. So eventually, she wanted to make more than the 500 to a thousand a night she was then making and started driving into the city to work at Flash Dancers in Times Square and Larry Flint's and the Hustlers Club in Hell's Kitchen. So let me just say, Times Square strip clubs, they be given. Law and Order, svu, they be given. It's like a mob that's tied to this. And I'm scared for these women. Like, is it gives. It doesn't give what it needs to be giving, which is, like, Atlanta strip clubs. You go in there, you know, it's some grown bad bitches. They're all of age and they're all fucking acrobats. They're all Simone Biles. They climb up on the pole 50ft high and ride each other.

[Monique Hart]

Good. Working now, because we know that you can go to different parts of Atlanta, and she is a little young.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm talking about King of Diamonds, Magic City. King of Diamonds in Miami. Magic City in Atlanta. And Ace of Diamonds in la. And Ace of Diamonds in la. You're gonna go there and just see a bunch of girls with a bunch of Instagram followers and they'll be twerking.

[Monique Hart]

They don't do no trick.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. Because in la, you can't serve liquor at strip clubs if people are getting naked. So you have. They have them in bathing suit.

[Monique Hart]

I don't need you to get naked, sis. I just need you to be in something cute and go upside down and do all that.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're like, girl, I got a million followers. Y'all know me. They coming out and just being like, look at me. I'm. You know.

[Monique Hart]

Oh. I said, then I need to go to Atlanta. I do want to. I went to one.

[Lacey Mosley]

They work hard in Atlanta and they work hard in Miami. In Miami, I saw stuff that I was like, like. And I was at sometimes I wasn't at a strip club. I was at, like, live. And I saw people doing the surfboard, where it's like one girl is holding the pole and another girl is standing on top of her, and they're spinning around up, like, 50 foot high. I was like, there's no way I could ever do this. And every time I've ever gone to a strip club, it's always Been with, like, men. And, like, in my early 20s, like, we would be out here. We would be with the football players. We would be out here with the ballers. They would fly us out places, and they would give us money to tip the strippers. And I'd be like, I'm in my early 20s. You know, I'm poor, honey. So I'd be like, half for me in my titties and half for you, half for you, because I can't not. I can't keep all the money. You know how many times I done woke up in a hotel with money in my titties and I was like, how did this. Okay, well, all right. Sometimes I would go with football players, and they'd be like, y'all got a tip? Good. We went to high school together. We'd be like, okay. But they would give us the money. So the beginnings of the con friendship. Even though Rosie was making more money at Manhattan club, sometimes 3,000 a night, only in a couple hours. Rosie's a bad bitch. It was still difficult to hold onto earnings as a dancer. The fee to dance at the club was $300, and management would then claim 40% of nightly earnings. Additionally, dancers had to tip other employees, like bartenders, and be sent to be sent to worthwhile clients. Okay, this is too much.

[Monique Hart]

I've heard that from a lot of girls. It's a lot of money.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, Look, I understand 300 to dance, fine, 40%. It needs to be 10. And then you have to tip out your bartenders and your wait staff. I understand that. But if you tipping out the employees and you're paying 40% to the club, what am I paying 42, 40% to the club for if I'm already paying a $300 fee and I'm paying and tipping out this wait staff? What is this 40% shit?

[Monique Hart]

I watched this thing on Amazon prime about, I think, like, behind the pole or something. The girls were saying, like, how the stripper life is very, very glamorized and fantasized. But she says, baby, the struggle is real. She says. Cause you be like, I need to dance to make money, but I need $300 just to get on the pole. And then if I get on the pole, if it's slow, I still am required to tip out all these people, plus the 40%.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is bullshit. And this is why more strip clubs need to be run by women, because they need. And look, I'm not saying, like, you know, girl boss, like, some women can be capitalists just like men, but I Think more strip clubs need to be run by former strippers who know the game.

[Monique Hart]

Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley]

Who know the game.

[Monique Hart]

They know the game.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep. And aren't going to play people, because this is fucked up. I'm sorry. I waited tables and I had to pay out for my bus and I had to pay out for my bartenders and bar backs, and that was it. It should be just like waiting tables. You pay out the people that are fucking in there and then maybe, maybe the $300 thing stays. But no, 40% to the fucking house. Why am I paying the house if I already paid the house $300 and I'm tipping out your mother? That's.

[Monique Hart]

No, no, it's way too much.

[Lacey Mosley]

But it's too much.

[Monique Hart]

Crazy. Crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's bullshit. Yeah, it's just. It's ridiculous. So at least up until 2008, money was still good in large part due to the number of Wall street clients that had frequented the club. Rosie says of hustlers, it was like La La Land in there. We had guys who were Guggenheim partners. He spent 300 grand in one week. He came in three times, a hundred grand every time he walked in the room. Everyone made $10,000 every time he came in. However, things drastically changed after the 2008 housing crisis crisis, because obviously a lot of these motherfuckers were coming up on the housing crisis because a lot of them were playing the stock market like it was goddamn craps and making a lot of money at that time because we're talking about those fucking balloon housing investments and stuff. Like people were making money and low key. That's Clinton's fault because he was the one who deregulated the banking industry and let them get involved in that kind of shit. So Rosie had taken time off the previous year to have a baby. When she returned, the industry had changed. Many of the Wall street clients had stopped coming in and it was much harder to make the used to. Additionally, there was a whole new generation of dancers at the club who were much more willing to perform sex acts for money. So look, if you're a sex worker, cool. But if you're a sex worker in a strip club where the strippers aren't trying to do sex work, now you cutting in on what they get because they know there's somebody else who's willing to go to the champagne room and get the champagne pop.

[Monique Hart]

$50, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

So faced with a choice, she reconnected with Samantha Barbash, a retired dancer, someone Rosie had known from hustlers before. Rosie notice that Samantha was Doing extraordinarily well by just bringing men into the club and keeping them entertained all night. Curious. By the time Samantha and Rosie started working together, Samantha had developed a long list of connections with hosts and clients. Rosie said, I started noticing these bitches make a lot of money and they don't even really work. Samantha had found some kind of loophole where I can get paid to not have to actually have sex. Okay, I would be interested too. Together they recruited two other friends of the dancers, Karina Pascucci and Marisa Rose. And then the only images we have of them is a mug shot to act as lures in the fishing scheme. Samantha would reach out and I'm not gonna post anyone's mug shot on the Instagram page. Sorry, guys, I'll post other stuff, but not mug shots. So Samantha would reach out to potential clients to meet up for drinks and have Karina or Marcy meet them. And then the others would show up to overwhelm the client with attention. Having hooked the mark, they then steer him to a club and encourage him to run up his credit card. Though deceptive, the practice wasn't illegal. However, after a time, the women found this method to be both time consuming and not generating enough money. So they said, look, we gotta go and woo this all night. We could be like, oh, you so cute. Oh, show us pictures of your kids. We won't tell your wife we love your Brooks Brother suit. That's a lot of work. They're like, this is taking too long. So here comes the illegality. So after spending thousands of dollars a night, many men expected more than a lap dance or conversation. You know, I mean, be. So Samantha and Rosie's solution was to hire sex workers to perform sex acts on them. Rosie and Samantha would source girls from Craigslist or Backpage. We know about Back Page too. And then give them makeovers with new clothes etiquette lessons to make them more acceptable for the increasingly high profile clientele. Additionally, sometimes the men would be too tired to go out or not interested in high or, you know, energy inducing drugs, and the night will become a bust. So basically they become like, oh, do you want to come out with us, Wall street daddy? And they'd be like, I'm tired. I worked all day. Okay, well, do you want some cocaine so you can wake up? I don't do cocaine. Well, all right. Well, damn. So Samantha's solution was to just sprinkle MDMA or ketamine into their drinks to get them going again. I thought ketamine was a horse tranquilizer. That made you like, pass it makes you.

[Monique Hart]

No, you can get into a K hole and that's when you have done so much that you are just like, ugh, dead.

[Lacey Mosley]

But does it wake you up though, if it's a little bit?

[Monique Hart]

Ketamine is like the new party drug that doesn't give you any kind of hangover or whatever. So you're like, woo.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, I thought it was a horse tranquilizer that always go into a K hole. Okay, so maybe you can party on a little bit of ketamine. Listen, this is not a recommendation for y'all to get on. Yeah, okay. So the cocktail had an effect of keeping the men happy and technically conscious, but messed with their memory and essentially made them black out. Out. When the men would call weeks later, complaining about the tens of thousand dollars charged their car, they'd be reminded of the good time they had, but couldn't remember, supported by security camera footage. Before long, Samantha and Rosie were rolling in cash, dropping thousands of dollars on luxury shoes, cars, and living the lives they'd previously only dreamed of. So this is a downfall of the scheme. So this all makes sense. This like, they got him drugged up. They were like, you had a great time. Look at this camera. You was whipping your tie around like a helicopter. You know what I mean? You was like New York City, come on and raise. Take your tie off and twist it around the air like a helicopter. Like you was lit. We got footage, bro. So problems arose when tensions began between Samantha and Rosie and they grew. That's the thing. If you're scamming, if you're scamming in a group, you gotta keep the group together. Y'all can't branch off. You can't do no secret shit. That's how you will fall down. Listen, we talked about that with the college admissions scheme, they would have still been scheming colleges to this very day if one of them didn't go fucking rogue. You gotta keep the scam intact. Many of these clients had been permanently burned when the women maxed out their credit cards. And Samantha became more reckless in reaching out to strangers as well as recruiting unreliable girls. So Samantha's over here. Like, I'm just trying to get to the money, okay? Everybody mad because they should be at you, Samantha, you're getting messy. And also, like, I'm not saying in any way that we approve of drugging people. I don't care if they're men. I don't care if they're sleazy assholes. You shouldn't be Drugging people to manipulate them out of your money, that's not cool. So I don't fuck with that. The beginning of the scam, I did fuck with when y'all was just juicing them up and giving them confidence to spend money. But when you start drugging them, that's not, that's not ethical. That's not right. It's not right. So Rosie had issues with this saying, when I'm doing business with somebody, I want stand up people, not junkies and criminals, people that have morals and principles to scam the righteous. The women became less careful even once, only narrowly avoiding being caught by the DEA in a sting operation. The operation really blew up when the story of another victim, Dr. Zayad Unman, a New Jersey cologist, made papers. He had racked up 105 $30,000 bill at Scores, one of the women's clubs, and refused to pay, saying that the only way he would have spent that money is if he were drug curious. Because you probably were. The story made big headlines when Scores sued him, citing security camera footage as evidence that he actually spent the money. However, it was a spark that lit a fire. And when only four witnesses were willing to come forward with their experiences with the women, it was enough to finally catch them. So four. So basically somebody saw this story in the paper and they were like, wait a minute, this happened to me. I too don't remember giving these sexy bitches all my money. I too agree with this doctor cardiologist. So then they were after him. However, it was. So this is the spark that lit the fire. Right. The arrest started June 9, 2014, a couple months after Youngman's story came out. In a total, the scam ran for only a little less than a year. Wow. Because Samantha got greedy. Like you were saying earlier, Monique, when you get greedy, you gonna get caught. Absolutely. So Samantha was arrested first, which she should have been. Cause she was the messiest. So I'm sure they picked Samantha up easy. Samantha was like, hey, boo, you wanna come out with me tonight? Oh, look over there. A plane. And then she was sprinkling. She was sprinkling the drugs in their drink. She was like, oh my God, a naked woman. Look over there. Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle. Where they got it right. She was like, oh, over there. A new investment deal. Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle. So she got caught first. That's not surprising. The cops picked up Marcy and Karina next, and then Rosie was arrested last. The next time they were all reunited was Inside a cell at Rikers. Ooh, the prison. Prison.

[Monique Hart]

That's scary, girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

Rikers is not a good prison to be at. That's a bad. So the women were charged with conspiracy, forgery, assault, and grand larceny. They all pled guilty to the charges. Samantha cooperated with authorities and was only sentence for five years probation. So remember, Samantha was picked up first and she cooperated with authorities, which means that she probably got in there and she did. She put on her rainbow wig and she gave us the six, nine. She snitched on everybody. Samantha got in there and was like, okay, it was Karina, Marcy, Rosie. She got in there. She was like, dmx, like, what these bitches want? Tina, Cookie. I met her at an ice cream parlor. It was Danny and Susan. And like, she went in there and snitched on everybody. She was like, who? Y'all want to know? She was like, I know some people with some expired parking tickets. Y'all want that?

[Monique Hart]

That one? Okay. She said, I'm not voting down.

[Lacey Mosley]

She said, my cousin Gigi used to run numbers on 3rd Street. Y'all want her, like, she went in there and snitched on everybody, guys. So then, while Marcy and Karita were sentenced to four months of weekends in jail and five years probation. Weekends in jail. Jail. What?

[Monique Hart]

Where did you do that at?

[Lacey Mosley]

Jail is so stupid. Jail is so stupid and prisons need to be abolished. This shit is fucking stupid. Weekends in jail. So I have Monday through Friday, I'm free. And then, oh, Friday night, you know, at 7:00, I gotta go to jail.

[Monique Hart]

What, so you don't turn up and do anything criminal?

[Lacey Mosley]

What?

[Monique Hart]

Criminal activity?

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, so Rosie, like, Samantha took a deal that kept her out of prison and was sentenced to only five years probation. Rosie said, I thought about it and I'm like, like the only one of those girls that was normal, with a brain on my head and a child and a future. So she said, I'm not about to fuck my baby up being in prison. So she snitched as well. Samantha sued STX Entertainment and Jennifer Lopez's Norikin Productions, the production companies behind Hustlers, for exploitation of her image and defamation of her character. The multi million dollar lawsuit was dismissed by a judge as they did not find the film, use Samantha's name, portrait, picture or voice in the movie. Movie? No, the character is based off Samantha and was named Ramona Vega in the film. So it is based off of Samantha. And they said that it didn't. Samantha didn't have strong enough lawyers because they stole your story again.

[Monique Hart]

She was trying to scam, trying to get Miss JLo Girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now, they could have broke Samantha off with some coin because they know they stole her story.

[Monique Hart]

This is Hollywood and you know they're not gonna do no such thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're not. But she should have just went for broke and got the best lawyers, you know, so she would have probably been fine. Karina is working on her associate's degree in criminal psychology. Okay. Karina, she was like, look, I'm a criminal. I'm interested in the psychology.

[Monique Hart]

Wait, didn't they do that on Catch Me if youf can with Leonardo DiCaprio? He became the, like, working for the FBI, the CIA at the end of his career.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's what happens if you're a good criminal. If you're a really good criminal, the FBI will be like, look, we respect your hustle. Can you teach us your way? Like, can you put us on game? Because we're trying to stay woke. Like, the FBI needs criminals in order to catch other criminals. So they'll give a good criminal a break. If you real smart. They'll be like, can you tell us.

[Monique Hart]

How you do it? Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause we interested. So Rosie's now working on a memoir. All right. That is the deep story, the deep cut of that hustler's movie that you probably didn't see in theaters. Alrighty then. A mess. Guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non scam advertisements. We'll be back for the saddest part of the show. This is when I have to let Monique. Robbery. You hear that? Birds chirping in the air. Cause spring is upon us. And so is Quince. I know you have a spring travel itch. Whether it be with your family, some of them you hate. Whether it be with your besties, some of them you hate. You can put your foot on all of their necks with Quince's vacation season apparel. Like lightweight European linen styles from $30. Washable silk tops. You know I love those. Pair it with stylish tote bags to carry it all. And the best part, all Quint's Items are priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands. Passing the savings on to us. If you want to support the show and me, when you go to quints.com you better hit that slash. Got goddess. Amen. Treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from quinn's. Go to quinns.com goddess for 365 day returns plus free shipping on your order. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com goddess. To get free shipping and 365 day returns. Q U, I, N, C E. Goddess. Mom. Mom. You never know what's ahead. Honey, please stop. I'm trying to drive today. You're taking your kid for a drive, then before you know it, they're taking you for one. Honey, stop. Mom, I got it. At Credit One bank, we're here for what's ahead. That's why you can get cash back rewards on everyday purchases like gas. Credit One bank for what's ahead terms apply. Visit creditonebank.com for more details. And fraud. And now we're back, and it's time for the last segment of the show, Scammer of the Week. This is where we highlight a charlatan who we believe is worthy of our praise. Or maybe not. We'll know by the end. So scammer of the week is a Florida man. Oh, Lord. Y'all know when it's Florida, it's about to be a Mess. Who faces 104 felony counts after he allegedly lose. Used at least 28 people's personal information to create fake identities in order to purchase expensive items in area stores. Stores. Christopher crouch, 23. Oh. A young scammer would create. Oh, look at. Oh, oh, Christopher, you are. Your face look like a thumb. He ain't got no chin. Where the chin? Where's the chin? You know, when God made Christopher, he was like, oops, we've got the chin. Yeah. Did y'all put a chin in there? No, we didn't put a chin in there. Jesus. What? God. Did anybody put a chin on there? Nobody. Nobody. Christopher is a chinless man. Man. And, you know, he would create these fake identities, right? And he would create fake driver's licenses using the victim's information and his photograph. And then open bank accounts or credit cards at stores such as Dick's Sporting Goods, Home Depot, and Marshalls. So he was scamming on a budget.

[Monique Hart]

Basic. Basic.

[Lacey Mosley]

He then purchased expensive items immediately after being approved for the account. It's unknown how he obtained the victim's information, though police speculate he looked through their mail and trash. Crouch also lived off his girlfriend's income during the crime spree. So he had. He had a girlfriend, which. Wow. Okay. Men can always get a girlfriend.

[Monique Hart]

I mean, it's true. Girl say no. Love yourself.

[Lacey Mosley]

Love yourself.

[Monique Hart]

Love yourself.

[Lacey Mosley]

Are you supporting Christopher Crouch and he doing crime? I'm sorry. If I'm dating a scammer, he better be breaking me off some of the scam money. And not telling me so I don't get implicated. I'm not no scammer and supporting them.

[Monique Hart]

No. You know why she supported him? Because he was using all of the discounted makeups and lotions from Marshalls.

[Lacey Mosley]

You think he was getting her, like, a jade face roller or something? She was getting broke off a little bit. She got some Paris Hilton eyelashes, and so she kept quiet.

[Monique Hart]

She was cute. She got a little beauty blender.

[Lacey Mosley]

She was like, ooh, right? It's not even a real beauty blender. It's the. It's the pretty blender.

[Monique Hart]

It's just blend.

[Lacey Mosley]

Beauty sponge.

[Monique Hart]

There you go. It's the sponge. Blend, sponge, blend.

[Lacey Mosley]

There you go. Sponge, blend. Like, okay. Had to be getting something. I hope. Sis, I hope you ain't scam yourself by supporting a scammer and not getting broke off, because this man is not cute enough to be living anywhere for free. He always needs to be paying rent.

[Monique Hart]

That part.

[Lacey Mosley]

5020 for, like, 600, man. He need to be paying rent. What? No.

[Monique Hart]

So that's romance.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's unknown, like, how he obtained the victim's information. Right. Crouch also lived off of his girlfriend. Right. In addition to his expensive purchases, Crouch also used stolen identities to purchase cell phones and rent the apartment he was residing in. Wait a minute. It. So he had his own apartment, and he was supporting him the house down. I am confusion.

[Monique Hart]

I want to know what she looked like.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was arrested and booked in February of 2021. Wow.

[Monique Hart]

Is there photos of her?

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't think we have no photos of her. But Christopher Crouch.

[Monique Hart]

I want to see where she looks.

[Lacey Mosley]

Christopher Crouch probably speaks a good game.

[Monique Hart]

He got game, and I feel like this lady probably had money or at least Social Security. Security.

[Lacey Mosley]

Social Security if he's 23. Well, she could be any age. We don't know. And is she paying? She got to be older.

[Monique Hart]

Chris probably got that good. Oh, girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

Chris working with something, okay? It's not a chin and not a chin. It's not. We know he's not working with the chin. Okay? He don't got one of those. But he working with something because nothing in life is free. There's no such thing as a free lunch.

[Monique Hart]

You know, he could come.

[Lacey Mosley]

Maybe he could. You know, he look like he might be able to cook.

[Monique Hart]

Baby, I need to see what his girlfriend looks like. We need to find now.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm so good.

[Monique Hart]

I'm gonna go. Ma'am, I'm. I'm so intrigued. Like, what was he doing for you that you knew?

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know. Anyway, I am confusion. But, guys, that brings us to the end of another episode. Monique, you've been fantastic. Oh, my God. Monique, Heart an icon. This is an amazing episode. I know everyone's gonna love it.

[Monique Hart]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, Monique, we always ask on the show. Yes. Where do you want to be found? Socials. Things you want people to see, watch, listen to. Where do you want people to.

[Monique Hart]

Oh, right now? Well, I want you to find me in concerts and on podcasts and television shows and movie productions and owning productions. But right now, you can find me online on social media. That's Instagram. That's Iam Monique Hall. My skincare line, Mo Beauty, will be coming out soon. We are doing the final stages of packaging and we will be launching that asap. So that'll be coming out soon. Also, check out my podcast, Ace of Hearts, and anything else I'm trying to think of.

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Monique Hart]

Well, just. Yeah. Pray for me as I pray for you in the Lord. Amen.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Amen. And as always, guys, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, just make sure your scam is retired. Scam got us pod at Gmail. If you want to find me and my online shenanigans. D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey on all platforms except for TikTok, where I'm Lacy Mosley and guys, iCarly June 17th, get into it on Paramount. Plus, a black lace sketch show is streaming on HBO Max, so you can get into that whenever you want. Congregation. Stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam got its stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, aka AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargbo, engineered by Marina Paiz, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming. All set for your flight? Yep. I've got everything I need. Eye mask, neck pillow, T Mobile. Headphones. Wait. T Mobile? You bet. Free inflight wi fi. 15% off all Hilton brands. I never go anywhere without T Mobile. Same goes for my water bottle, chewing gum, nail, no clippers. I'm gonna leave you to it.

[Monique Hart]

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Monique Hart]

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[Lacey Mosley]

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