From Cartels to Escobar Phone Fails w/ La'Ron Hines

Summary

Scam Goddess: From Cartels to Escobar Phone Fails w/ La'Ron Hines (Nov 18, 2025)

Overview

In this lively and insightful episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley is joined by internet sensation and returning guest La’Ron Hines (of Snapchat’s "Laron in a Million" and viral “Are You Smart?” videos). Together, they dish on social media scams, digital misinformation, and dive into the hilarious (and wild) saga of Pablo Escobar’s brother’s tech “ventures.” The episode keeps the congregation laughing while reflecting seriously on online gullibility, the rise of AI-fueled cons, and what happens when infamous criminals enter the Silicon Valley playbook.

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Key Discussion Points

Scam Stories, Facebook Fakes & Digital Gullibility

[02:25 - 09:53]

• La’Ron’s childhood scam confession: Adding fake celebrity Facebook accounts, like “10 Selena Gomez’s” and “15 Ariana Grande’s,” thinking he was chatting with the real stars.
• Laci points out that although Gen Z is digitally native, they’re susceptible to “delusional” online behavior and scams.
• “Facebook is a breeding ground for delusion.” (La’Ron, [03:39])
• Discussion of “auntie” scams—family group chats loaded with fake stories, chain messages, and viral misinformation.
• Commentary on online activism and boycotts: How the urge to protest is real, but internet-organized boycotts often fizzle quickly.

AI Scams & Corporate Greed: The Case of Delta Airlines

[11:15 - 23:40]

• Laci presents a “What’s Hot in Fraud” story—Delta Airlines moving to eliminate set ticket prices in favor of AI-powered “dynamic” pricing based on YOUR spending habits and online cookies.
  • Example: If you splurge on a Beyoncé outfit online, Delta might hike your flight price, assuming you can pay more.
• “You got mattress money so I’m gonna have to run it on you.” (Laci, [20:37])
• Concerns about AI scraping emails—like raising bereavement airfare if you mention a funeral in your email.
• The hosts riff on capitalist exploitation and failings of "infinite growth" business models.
• Notable moment: Laci rails against the PayPal/Venmo option to contribute to the US national debt (“I laughed so hard I thought I wasn’t gonna make it.” [22:50])

Historic Hoodwink: The Escobar Fold (Escobar Inc)

[28:28 - 80:50]

1. Meet the Escobars: From Cocaine to Cellphones

• Pablo Escobar’s brother, Roberto Escobar, infamous for running the cartel’s books and assassination squad, moves into tech entrepreneurship.
• Notable quotes:
  • “He was a criminal with a passion. That’s why he was also running the books.” (Laci, [41:50])
  • “Filing a complaint means bullets.” (Laci, [32:52])

2. Suing Netflix & Beefing with Elon Musk

• In 2016, Roberto tries to squeeze $1B from Netflix for their show Narcos using the family story.
• Later, he targets Elon Musk, claiming Musk’s flame thrower was “stolen” from an Escobar idea.
• Roberto’s escalating demands: “He dropped the case if Elon either paid him $100 million or made him CEO of Tesla.” (Laci, [51:50])

3. The Escobar Fold Scam

• Samsung’s $1,900 Galaxy Fold is released in 2019. Roberto Escobar’s “Escobar Fold” is offered at $350—gold-plated, hyped, and promoted with cringeworthy “Escobar Girls” commercials.
  • “Her boobs were basically above the phone.” (Laci, [65:04])
• In reality, the Escobar Fold is just a rebranded, gold-stickered Samsung Galaxy Fold—many units failed or were returned, then resold by Escobar Inc.
  • Tech YouTuber Marques Brownlee (MKBHD) exposes the scam ([69:12]):
    • “The Escobar Fold is the same phone with a gold sticker glued to it...right underneath is the Samsung label.” (Paraphrased, [69:51])
  • MKBHD never receives his own phone orders until he tweets—regular customers get nothing.
  • The “influencer strategy”: Only high-visibility reviewers get the phone to make the scam look legit.

4. Money Laundering & Bad Branding

• Escobar Inc did not actually supply most customers; instead, they sent promotional items, a “certificate of ownership,” or Roberto’s book, The Accountant’s Story.
  • “Talk about a title that ain’t shit.” (Laci, [73:31])
• Olaf Gustafsson (“El Silencio”), Swedish CEO, is arrested and pleads guilty to fraud and money laundering.
  • “He faces up to 20 years in federal prison for each count.” (Laci, [80:00])
• Brief foray into Escobar’s other scam ventures: gold-plated iPhones, scam flamethrowers, and a “physical cryptocurrency.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Top Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Facebook is a breeding ground for delusion.” – La’Ron Hines ([03:39])
• “Call your aunties. Your aunties are the most susceptible community.” – Laci Mosley ([03:52])
• “You got mattress money so I’m gonna have to run it on you.” – Laci ([20:37])
• “Filing a complaint means bullets. I don’t want your formal complaint to be bullets.” – Laci ([32:52])
• “He was a criminal with a passion. That’s why he was also running the books.” – Laci ([41:50])
• “He dropped the case if Elon either paid him $100 million or made him CEO of Tesla.” – Laci ([51:50])
• “The Escobar Fold is the same phone with a gold sticker glued to it...right underneath is the Samsung label.” – MKBHD/Hosts ([69:51])
• “Talk about a title that ain’t shit.” – Laci on “The Accountant’s Story” ([73:31])

Laugh-Out-Loud Moments

• La’Ron and Laci brainstorming boycott strategies that never work, mourning the end of “serious” protest fashion (“we ain’t had a serious conversation since civil rights” [06:45])
• Laci’s vivid description of Delta/AI-powered greed, and “the government not caring about us that much” ([04:22])
• Imagining the HR onboarding at Escobar Inc: “You actually got cinderblocks on your feet right now and we throwing you in the water.” ([32:34])
• The Escobar Girls commercial: “Like, they were opening the phone with the titties above the phone—what am I supposed to be looking at?” ([65:04])
• The running gag about product names: “Invisible Man. I was like, well, we know we ain’t gonna be able to see him!” ([62:28])
• Laci’s riff on The Accountant’s Story: “That is the most boring title. You could have named it anything.” ([73:48])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:25] – La’Ron reveals being “scammed” by fake celebrity accounts on Facebook.
• [11:15] – “What’s Hot in Fraud”: Delta Airlines’ AI pricing scam explained.
• [20:03] – Explaining the mechanics and creepiness of AI-driven price-gouging.
• [28:28] – Start of “Historic Hoodwinks”: The Escobar tech saga begins.
• [32:34] – Discussion of cartel onboarding, assassination squads, and “workplace” logistics.
• [41:50] – Delving into Roberto Escobar’s dual role as accountant and criminal.
• [51:50] – Roberto’s wild demands to Elon Musk, including the Tesla CEO switch.
• [63:22] – The “Escobar Fold” and the hilariously bad promo video.
• [69:12] – MKBHD exposes the Escobar Fold scam on YouTube.
• [73:31] – The title “The Accountant’s Story” ridiculed.
• [80:00] – Olaf (El Silencio) pleads guilty to fraud and laundering.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quintessential tour of the Scam Goddess universe: big laughs, social commentary, ridiculous real-life scams, and the ever-present warning to “stay schemin’!” Laci and La’Ron roast digital gullibility, break down how even cartel royalty can flop at fraud, and underline how influencer marketing is weaponized by modern conmen. Stay tuned throughout for razor-sharp wit, infectious energy, and a masterclass in detecting (and clowning on) scams.

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Where to Find the Hosts

La’Ron Hines

• @laronhinesofficial on social media
• The Zillennial Podcast
• Teasing new projects in the works

Laci Mosley

• @divalaci on all platforms
• Scam Goddess TV show (now streaming on Hulu)
• Audiobook & book: Scam Goddess
• Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram & Twitter

As always, congregation: Stay scheming!

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Episode Research: Kate Doyle
Audio Engineering: Rich Garcia
Produced by Jessica Cisneros

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Y', all, I'm so excited to be back. I'm so happy to be here. Yes, my spades partner had to invite me back after. We, like, you know, we was whooping.

[A]

On the finish the game, but we.

[B]

Was whooping on him.

[A]

Exactly. Let's talk about something real awful. You know, I almost felt bad. I didn't, but I almost did.

[B]

I almost did. But no one mourns the wicked.

[A]

And there it is. A word for the church.

[B]

Okay, hello.

[A]

Now, Laron, we always ask on this podcast, what's your relationship with skims? Do you love him? Do you hate them? Have you been a part of some or have some happened on you? I like to say happened on you, not to you.

[B]

Listen, I support a good scam, but one scam that got me a lot of times as a kid, okay, it is celebrity Facebook pages. You ever just try? I would friend people on Facebook thinking that they were celebrities. I had, like, 10 Selena Gomez's on there. I had, like, 15 Ariana Grande's on there.

[A]

You was asking all of them if they were smart.

[B]

No. Like, before I even started the. Are you smart? This was like. This is like, when I was in.

[A]

Sixth grade, I was like, they're breaking you now.

[B]

But yeah, yeah, I was like, in sixth grade, I'm adding, like, Miley Cyrus. I'm adding everybody. Because I'm thinking, these are the real people. And then we start having little conversations. I'm talking to, like, 10 Hannah Montanas in the Facebook messages. So it's like, you know, we're just like. We're keeping up with you. I think that's how I've been scammed, because I was under the impression that those were the real people. But then again, I'm also an American everyday consumer, so I feel like that is being.

[A]

I mean, you're also Gen Z, so I feel like y' all came up with so much Internet that why not believe when you're 12 years old or 11 years old that you are on this real celebrity's fan page or Facebook?

[B]

Pa Listen, Facebook is the breeding ground for delusion, because now I am no longer on Facebook, but now they have AI posters of everything. And all of the things are from the aunties that are like, is this real?

[A]

Oh, my gosh, no way.

[B]

This is real.

[A]

The aunties are the most susceptible community. Call your grandparents and your aunties, especially your aunties, because your aunties have a little bit more, like, tech savvy than your grandparents.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So your aunties are gonna copy, paste the link, put it in the family group chat. Your auntie's the ones sending you Bible quotes with the sunset in the background. And I'm like, auntie, I'm not clicking. I am not clicking on this link. They're like, no, but it's something you need to hear. Okay? And I'm like, no, I don't think it is. They're like, you heard about 3G? I'm like, please know, tell me why.

[B]

I get those texts I got during.

[A]

COVID I was like, y', all, the government don't care about us that much. We give them our information for free.

[B]

They not doing that literally. Same. I think what my aunties, they do is two things. So one, they send, like, little brain teasers that they find. You know, it's like, find the cat in the Picture. And you have to, like, circle. Like, they send me those, like, 30,000 times a day in the family group chat number one. But then also, like, I don't know, if you ever get those random posts where it's like, on June 19th, we're gonna stage a walkout on this day at this time, everyone tune in. We're gonna boycott this place. They send it out to me, and I'm like, auntie, I promise you, everyone is not gonna do that. I really commend you. But it's literally gonna be all three of y' all doing it by yourself. Destiny's Child.

[A]

Latoya, Phaedra.

[B]

We talking deep.

[A]

Not major, but wrong show.

[B]

We on the wrong performance.

[A]

But also a performance.

[B]

Also a performance nonetheless, but wrong show.

[A]

No. We talked about that on the podcast recently, where we were like, y', all, we can't boycott like this. You can't be like, everybody. We're walking out. You put it on the Internet. Like, the company doesn't see it. And it's like, okay, y' all gonna give them one day of bad profits. Y' all all gonna be in there slurping on that lemonade.

[B]

The next day.

[A]

The next day, we all gonna be down at Biggie Chicken at having a biscuit. So we just gotta be serious.

[B]

It never lasts. Like, I mean, I'm all for a good. Like, let's. Yeah, let's really stick it to the. Listen, I'm all for it. I'm all for the power to the people.

[A]

You do look like you should be, like, on an Olympic mascot. Like, we're not mascot, but, like, one of those, like, podiums right now.

[B]

Look, I feel like Dr. Umar at the Breakfast Club, you know, he was.

[A]

Like, okay, this is how you know that you really about to say something.

[B]

That I'm really about to say something. Cause, you know, I'm all for, like, you know, boycotting, but give me a plan. Like, don't just say we gonna do it at this time. Like, what are we.

[A]

Right? It's gotta be indefinite.

[B]

Guys, what are we hitting?

[A]

It's gotta be indefinite till we get what we want. Okay? These days, we just be like, we mad. Like, that's our boycott. We angry. We pissed everybody. We mad. Y' all come outside. Be mad together.

[B]

Be mad together.

[A]

That's not a boycott. That's an angry mob.

[B]

Okay, Exactly.

[A]

That's different. Okay?

[B]

A little bit different.

[A]

And let us know if we're mobbing. Cause then, you know, we go get the pitchforks. We go to the Home Depot.

[B]

Listen, I'M a mob too. I make a sign. Listen, I'm one to make a sign.

[A]

And a clever one at that. Somebody said y' all are detracted from the movement with these funny signs. Like, what do you want us to do? We outside. We trying to have some.

[B]

We ain't had a serious conversation since civil rights, so why stop now?

[A]

The second that we stopped protesting in church suits and dresses, it was unserious. Okay? The girlies are out here at the protest and booty shout.

[B]

Listen, where are the three piece suits? We should be singing We Shall Overcome. Come on.

[A]

No. You gonna be able to count the change in a dude's pocket when he come outside? He like, the bitches love activ. Okay, they like, I'm trying to get activated.

[B]

I'm trying to get activated down here. They was protesting outside of my building a few weeks ago, and I was on my way to hot yoga. There's a hot yoga studio right across.

[A]

The street from me. What? More disruptive than, like, you're like, no, but like, you're like going to Zen out. And they're like, hell no, we won't go.

[B]

Exactly. No, but like, I stop. I'm like 15 minutes early for yoga. I'm never this early for yoga. I'm like, I got time. Let me go out here and protest for a second.

[A]

Did I let me dip a toe.

[B]

No, I did that, but, like, I ended up missing yoga and just protesting for like two hours. It was good. It was amazing. I felt so empowered. I'm like, listen, this is what community is about. Like, truly. Cause the thing is, it wasn't even a real protest of sticking it to the man. We had police approval. We had everything. They had the streets blocked off. It was a parade, basically.

[A]

Okay, so it was when the white people protest. Yes, those are okay, black people. Look, we can't all go at once. We gotta make like a phone tree or a win to meet. But when the white people get out here and protest, it's organized. No, it's not. It's not organized, honey. They want childcare and finger painting. What it is is that when black people are not there to be assaulted and harassed by the state, the protests are more peaceful. Cause police don't wanna go out there and beat on white people. That's not fun for them.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So they're like, white people still have rights. We might actually lose our jobs. And they're like, oh, are you brown? Are you around? Get down on the ground if it's brown.

[B]

Get on the ground if it's brown.

[A]

Get on if it's white.

[B]

It's I, It's I.

[A]

It's I.

[B]

It's I.

[A]

So. But that's more of the thing there. Funny that you say that. I do always have the urge to protest if I see a protest. We were in Amsterdam, me and my cousin, and there was a protest happening, and they were rounding people up, and we were on the side that they were rounding up, but we were also, like, tourists, like, literally on our way to the Ice House to, like, have a drink in a. In a cup of ice and, like, do the corniest thing ever. And we saw this protest, and I was, like, starting to, like, say to chant. Cause I can't help it if we chant. We chant, and it ain't even in English. We cannot get locked up in the Netherlands. We are black. And I was like, yeah, you right. Let's go into the tourist spot.

[B]

Like, I wanted to dip a toto.

[A]

I wanted to dip.

[B]

You wanted to dip your. It's like, thought that counts.

[A]

But then I was like, damn, we gotta go in here to capitalism. Cause we can't. I just shout out one to freedom before they take me inside.

[B]

I'm like, freedom.

[A]

Yes, we have the appointment for. Yeah, for 7pm, please. Yes.

[B]

No, for two.

[A]

Yeah, for two. Yes. We ordered the ice beer cup. Yes. Yes. Thank you so much. But also to freedom.

[B]

To freedom.

[A]

Close the door. Close the door. All at once. Close the door. Cause we can't.

[B]

And then you lifting the blinds from the inside, right?

[A]

Like, try to give a little thumbs.

[B]

Up through the blinds, like, you're doing amazing, sweetie.

[A]

You're doing amazing. Listen, we help where we can. We can, we can.

[B]

We can.

[A]

Yes. With the aunties on Facebook and just Facebook in general, we know that it's rife for scams. And you would think after at least the 2016 election where we saw Russian interference to the point where, you know, Zuckerberger, before he became like, Jack Harlow Lite, he was wearing that bald haircut and he had to go sit in front of the girls, you know, at the White House or not the White House, but, you know, in the Senate hearings, and be like, hey, yeah, so some ads were bought. Somebody bought the ads.

[B]

Somebody.

[A]

But, you know, we just sell ads.

[B]

We didn't ask what my name, Bennett.

[A]

And I am not.

[B]

And I am not in it. As he counts the money that he's collected.

[A]

I disliked every post. That's what I want to tell y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Cause I was like, thumbs down.

[B]

Thumbs down.

[A]

Listen, I'm on Your side.

[B]

Listen, me and you, we here. Yeah, we see each other.

[A]

I can't believe this. That's why I came up here, because I was like, let's be mad together. You know what? Why am I sitting on the opposite side of y'? All? Let me get up over there. Over here with y'.

[B]

All. We shut my people, right?

[A]

Why are we sitting across from each other? If I ever got in trouble at.

[B]

The stage, I definitely just hit my. Oh, my God. Are you okay? I'm okay. Are you okay? I definitely just hit my mouth on this.

[A]

I couldn't tell if you were, like, laughing and this was your new laugh, but I was like, this is not.

[B]

That I have to laugh.

[A]

I thought maybe that was your new laugh. But no, I'm with it. Speaking of kind of like, AI and fake things like that on Facebook, I'm gonna do a. What's hot in fraud? We haven't had one of these in a minute, Laron. So you're bringing that. Give me a good sound there, Rich.

[B]

A little ch.

[A]

Ch or something. You know, we're bringing it Blast from the past.

[B]

Uh.

[A]

Oh, no. So I really. This came across my desk. And by my desk, I mean Twitter. And then I went to some legitimate sources, as you all should do stop seeing some. A picture and some bold typhon and all this stacks.

[B]

What Megan say just because you see a picture and that little wording at the top, that don't make it up. That don't mean it's new.

[A]

That's don't mean it's new.

[B]

You gotta fact check.

[A]

And even still, like, to get on Twitter and be like, oh, to be like, a gotcha. They go on Wikipedia and be like, this is on Wikipedia. And I'm like, I grew up in a time where Wikipedia was a laughable source. They would fail you if that was a source in your papers or anything. Because anybody can edit Wikipedia.

[B]

Exactly. No, I saw somebody a dollar, and.

[A]

They like, we gonna let you holler.

[B]

Like, I saw it was one of the most recent. Like, I forgot what happened. But TMZ had put something out there. And then, of course, like, TMZ is always the first to put it out.

[A]

TMZ know if you did before you are.

[B]

Before you are. Exactly. This is actually, like, the Malcolm J. Warner situation. And someone had posted it, and they're like, is this real? TMZ just said it's real. It's like, it's not real until someone else confirms it. Someone puts a screenshot from Wikipedia and said it's real. There's no way that that was your.

[A]

They're not teaching the girls about sources anymore.

[B]

They're not. We grew up in a. We used to be a proper country where you had to cite your sources and they had to be Bible. They had to be. No, there's actually. Did you watch American Idol any last season?

[A]

Recent season?

[B]

The recent season?

[A]

Absolutely not. No. Okay. I haven't watched since William hung. After she banged, I left.

[B]

Listen, I didn't watch it either, but funny enough, a guy won from my home state, so it's like a big thing, right? Like, you know, you're from Mississippi. I'm from Mississippi, yeah. So I got one from my home state. I think his name is Jamal Roberts. But there are so many fake articles about this man on Facebook, and all of the aunties from back home are sharing them. It's like he just donated $50 million to this foundation.

[A]

You know what? At least they're POS.

[B]

No, it's always PR. It's always good PR, but it's like, they're just like, I love this. It's like, where did he get this money from?

[A]

He on TV.

[B]

Laron, the day rate is 400, and you know that. And that's being generous.

[A]

They don't know that. The second you're on tv, people think you have a lot of money.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

It don't matter which. I mean, I played a dead body on pbs, and they were like, oh, you big time now.

[B]

Hollywood.

[A]

I was like, y', all, I was dead on pps.

[B]

I had two lines.

[A]

Public broadcast that one.

[B]

I had two lines in Alena. Waithe project. You would have thought I was Denzel. Listen, me and Denzel was going yacht shopping together. Actually, we were.

[A]

You were. Exactly. Okay. Y' all eat at the same restaurant.

[B]

Same restaurants. Listen, me and Rihanna both went to Giorgio Baldi, and we had a bottle war. Listen, that's how rich I am.

[A]

We had a bottle war. It's crazy. We had a yacht off.

[B]

We had a yacht off.

[A]

I'm like, y', all, that's not why. I think that's why it's hard for us to get people on the actors strike when they're not from LA and they don't work in Hollywood because they're like, you're all just rich and entitled, and y' all just want more money. And it's like, no, that is not how this industry works. They're like, no, we saw you on CSI playing a beggar. We know you got it.

[B]

But the gag is, I got paid more for my thumb to be in a pizza commercial than my entire face.

[A]

On a TV residuals on commercials.

[B]

On commercials don't nobody want to talk about. Now.

[A]

That's. That's who you need to be looking at.

[B]

That's who you need to be looking at.

[A]

If you see somebody in a commercial more than once and it's a different one. Like all them progressive people. We need to rob them. We need to rob them.

[B]

Listen, Flo is rich.

[A]

Rich.

[B]

Flo is the ethical billionaire that people think Taylor Swift is. Listen. That's who Flo is.

[A]

We need a Forbes for the commercial earners. And they're like, don't do that. Don't ever tell people what we made.

[B]

Listen. Annie from Popeyes. Does anybody remember her?

[A]

Come on down to Popeye's Chicken. You know, I cooked every single wing. And I was like, yeah, she did. She's the owner of Popeyes.

[B]

She is Popeyes. I think she's at every location cooking up that chicken. Exactly.

[A]

I don't know how she does it.

[B]

I don't know how she does it. Like, but Santa Claus can be so many places at one night, too.

[A]

Exactly. The Santa Claus of fried chicken.

[B]

She is the Santa Claus of fried chicken.

[A]

I'm there with you. So Louisiana fast. So she's Louisiana fast. And so she gets all around the continental us.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Cooking the chicken.

[B]

Come on, Annie.

[A]

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[B]

Happy to be here.

[A]

So I wanted to talk about something I came across on Twitter and then I went and verified on like Fortune magazine and a few other like legitimate sources. So Delta, which is my preferred airline. Delta sponsor the show, listen. But they're moving forward with eliminating set prices in favor of AI that determines how much you pay for a ticket.

[B]

Walk me through that again.

[A]

I'm trying to understand. So you know how when you're going to book a flight, there used to be old tricks like try to buy your flights on a Tuesday. That's a low buying day. Or if you're gonna buy your flight, buy it in incognito mode or use a different device in a different area. And then when you see the price you want, go buy it on your computer so it's lower. Or you know, we used to have sites like Cheapo. Cheapo Air held me down during college. It got a little sketchier after that. But you know, Cheapo used to be where you could really get some air.

[B]

Love a good TripAdvisor. Cheapo air. Love all of it.

[A]

A little discount air.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Right. And so what Delta's proposing now to like increase profits because you know, we have to be constantly increasing profits until nobody has any money for the company left to take.

[B]

Capitalism baby.

[A]

Capitalism. Okay.

[B]

Capitalism baby.

[A]

Infinite growth until you are are infinitely dead.

[B]

If you don't like it, you leave.

[A]

If you don't like it, you die.

[B]

Is really what it is. Exactly. You can't afford to leave. You can't afford to leave.

[A]

So. So. And speaking of leaving and not affording it, Delta's now going to use cookies that other websites have for, like, your spending habits. So let's say you just went on Bloomingdale and you got. You re. Upped on your fancy perfume, or you, you know, got you splurged on something or whatever those cookies are now in your computer. I know y'. All. A lot of y' all probably got got with this. Let's say you got your Beyonce fit.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

And then you went to book your flight to see Beyonce, wherever that lady told you to go.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If you spent a lot of money on your Beyonce fit, there's a higher likelihood now with Delta eliminating fixed pricing that you might have to spend more for that flight. And this is so alarming to me. This is crazy, because you could make a large purchase and not, you know, and that might. It might be, like, a bed. Maybe you just needed a bed. Beds are exp. Expensive. And then if you went to go buy a flight after that, they're gonna be like, oh, you got that bed money, so we're gonna run.

[B]

You ain't sleeping on the floor, right? Like.

[A]

Like you're not getting our. Our pallet prices.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Because you got. You got mattress money.

[B]

You got mattress money, so I'm gonna.

[A]

Have to run it on you. And I was like, are you serious? Because they're gonna use AI. And so AI, you know, basically uses specific words to, you know, formulate like, random ass sentences. Like, it takes our information that we put into AI and then it regenerates that for other to AI more. It learns. You can tell AI talk like a black person. It'll put on its best ebonics. It's terrifying. They started with us, which they always do. I was like, why are y' all trying to make imaginary niggas? Y' all hate us so bad.

[B]

I'm guilty. I. I told mine to have a Southern accent one time. Listen, I was just testing it out.

[A]

To see bad for the planet. It is killing people in Memphis.

[B]

Where did that come from?

[A]

This is one of the largest plants. The lake is in Memphis.

[B]

I got family there. I gotta chill out.

[A]

You killing all your cousins? I can't believe you. La cousin side.

[B]

Okay, I get it. They painted me out to be the bad guy. They painted me out to be the bad guy.

[A]

No, but a lot of people use it and don't know like how just insidious it is. But it can also pull words from your emails and things like that. So let's say you just got an email about bereavement.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And then you go to buy a flight. AI can put two and two together, that you might be purchasing a flight for a funeral and run up the price. Cause the funeral ain't gonna happen but once. Ain't gonna be but one funeral. See, if you miss it, you're not at the funeral.

[B]

You could at least lower the price if I'm going to a funeral.

[A]

No. Why would they ever lower in price? Together we trying to mourn the wicked.

[B]

Come on now.

[A]

No, no, no. I ain't never heard Laura and Price from a company. They were like, we don't even put those words together. They've never existed in the past.

[B]

And if you don't like it, you don't like it, right?

[A]

It might be like, lower the price when they're like, okay, people don't have any more money for us to take.

[B]

Yeah, use that AI to see what's in my account. Then you'll leave me alone, please.

[A]

Well, they're not quite going into the bank account yet. They're looking at your spe because they don't care if you don't have it. That's why they got Klarna. Even though they going heavy. Heavy debt, you know? That's why they got Klarna.

[B]

Klarny's going in debt.

[A]

Oh. Oh, wild.

[B]

Let me go pay them right now.

[A]

Why would you go pay them?

[B]

I gotta help.

[A]

You're wild, Laron. You're trying to do corporate welfare on this podcast. Leron is wild. He is a wild.

[B]

I have to. You know what?

[A]

Now I know I laughed real hard when I saw the News reports that PayPal and Venmo were gonna have a way for you to be able to contribute to the government's national debt, where you could, like, donate to the US's national. And I laughed so hard that I thought I wasn't gonna make it. But, Laron, I think you might give him something for that 37 trill. Come on, let me put something on. I got five for you.

[B]

I got five on it. Listen, I bought.

[A]

I do not. I have nothing on it.

[B]

In fact, give me my money, please. Actually help you.

[A]

That's like helping. Why am I helping my robber?

[B]

At a certain point you have.

[A]

He can robber up after they robbed you once and be like, hey, man.

[B]

I got another one.

[A]

I had like $60 in my wallet at the time, but I just got paid.

[B]

I got another one for you, right?

[A]

You want to run another stick. Stick up?

[B]

No, not a stage stick up.

[A]

I'm trying to help you out. I know you need it.

[B]

I know you need it.

[A]

You on the streets robbing people.

[B]

So take it. You got. That's one of them dap ups when you got to put the money in like that.

[A]

Oh, yes. I call. Yeah. I call it. Those handshakes, I used to do those to, like, maitre d's and, like, hostesses. If I didn't have a reservation, I just like, oh, my gosh. Whatever you can do. And, you know, you stick a little 40 in there, and they'll do something for you.

[B]

I've only ever had one person do it to me, and if they don't.

[A]

I be like, give me my money back. It's only happened one time with where I was like, give me one minute back.

[B]

Give me the money back. Actually, no, like, hand it. Hand.

[A]

No, hand it back to me. They were appalled. I'm like, you can't help me.

[B]

You can't.

[A]

This is a quid pro quo, bro. We quit promo.

[B]

Hey, you know, good. I need to get my money back. I'm getting a refund, right?

[A]

Give it here. I did a quid pro where to give it a quo.

[B]

No, I actually did that when I. Oh, gosh, I can't believe I'm saying this, but before I was 21 and I wanted to get into a club, when I would hand them my ID, I would give them my real ID that said I was 19.

[A]

Underage.

[B]

Underage. But I put that little. I just started making money from TikTok. Y'. All. Y' all gotta understand. TikTok was paying me handsomely. I had to. But I handed him that id, the money under that. I'm like. I'm, like, looking around. I'm like, yeah, you gonna let me through?

[A]

Yeah. And it works for me every single time in Miami but once. And that man was just a hater.

[B]

Exactly. Now, you may get a hater every now and then.

[A]

Yeah. But typically, if you put enough under there, they'll go ahead and then. You know what was crazy? The hater took my ID. We're on vacation. Everybody else is 21. But me. I'm 20. He took my ID, and I had to pay $100 to get it back from him. So he just ran it up more. My little. You know what he did? He pulled the Delta Airlines on me. He was like, if you got 20 to put under the ID, you got 100. You got a hundred.

[B]

Oh, I pray both sides of his pillows are warm.

[A]

Oh, my God. Warm. And I hope it's hard.

[B]

And I do, too.

[A]

I hope we wake up with a neck ache every day.

[B]

Every morning.

[A]

Just one. Like a pinched nerve on both sides.

[B]

On both sides.

[A]

A massage could never help it.

[B]

And lower back problems.

[A]

Oh, yes. Every time. Every time we get up, we make a noise.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Every time you sit down and make a noise.

[B]

Ooh, yes.

[A]

Yes. And if that's happening to you, I hope that's not. Cause somebody put a hex on you out there, y'. All. Okay, but don't eat the spaghetti, man.

[B]

Don't eat the spaghetti.

[A]

We need him gone. We need him gone.

[B]

We need him gone.

[A]

But, yeah, this is so baffling to me because it's ushering a new age where we're seeing. I don't know why people were excited about AI. I was always mortified because it's just another invasive way for people to take advantage of us. Whether it be cloning voices for scams or it be, you know, like, spreading false information. Hello, Grok. Or Grok turning into a Nazi like he did back in the day. Because who could have thought that was going to happen? If you know what Grock is, it's AI on Twitter that our genius leader Elante, came up with the one African who really needs to go back. And he came up with this.

[B]

I'm crying.

[A]

He came up with this way for you to grok on Twitter and ask you questions that you could easily Google with more verifiable sources.

[B]

Oh, Grok is messy, too. Yes, I done seen that.

[A]

And now it talks like a weird, insole y dude. And it's, like, so bizarre. I know y' all need friends, but, like, AI, please, you don't need friends. This matters. You need AI and stop doing AI therapy. The AI ain't gonna say nothing back. But what you want to hear.

[B]

But what you want to hear. Exactly.

[A]

That's very weird.

[B]

Go to telehealth or something.

[A]

They got AI girlfriends now.

[B]

They do?

[A]

Yes. They over here talking, having relationships with the AI.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Baby. How was your day?

[B]

How was your day? I. Oh, that's crazy. No, that's crazy.

[A]

What they gonna be like? Oh, yeah, the motherboard was a little warm. But, like, what? Yeah, y', all, we all need the help. Help.

[B]

No, when I knew it was going bad. Cause like I said, Grok is messy. I done seen him in the comment section of the Stan of the Stan Wars. He be in the. Like, they Be like, hey, Grok, who's better, Megan or Nikki? And then they be like, well, technically Nicki does X, Y and Z, but however Megan is.

[A]

And it's like, why?

[B]

Why is Grok in the stand to where the beast? Y' all need to leave Grok out of this.

[A]

We also just need all the. If you are a part of a standom on Twitter. I'm so sorry. But there should just be mandatory psych evals.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because y' all are getting out of hand.

[B]

Please.

[A]

Them poor little British. Love, love, love, Love. Islands.

[B]

Yes, Love.

[A]

Peninsulas.

[B]

Peninsulas.

[A]

They are being harassed in the streets by 12 year olds.

[B]

They are.

[A]

Yes. And it's like, y' all need to. Y' all really need. We need playgrounds and parks back. We need communal spaces. Because why are y' all at the mall harassing your Jeremiah? Cuz your team?

[B]

You want to know why? Cuz there's a lack of shame.

[A]

Yeah, shame has really gone away.

[B]

Shame has gone away. Yeah, shame has gone away. And like, hot tub. Not heavy bullying, but like a little slight bullying.

[A]

I know, just like a little, like a little sprinkle.

[B]

Like just I tap you on the shoulder every now and then, you know, like.

[A]

You know, like just something. So with the most tangential opening to my podcast, let's move into historic hoodwinks.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This is where I will regale around with the famous con caper group of criminals. We may like them, we may hate them, but we'll see how we feel all throughout. So this scam was uncovered and reported by YouTuber MKBHD, aka Marcus Brownlee. I guess it would be Marcus Brownlee and then AKA mkbhd. Is that one of those, like, subtracts? Now I sound like an auntie. Is that one of them subtracts where? His name. His name is like McBad.

[B]

You know, I've heard of him, but.

[A]

Like, do people say mkbhd or do they say mcbad?

[B]

I think that's an amazing question. I've never once. It's.

[A]

Cause I used to say S, B, K, R, F, T and it's. It's subtract. And I was like, now why would they do that?

[B]

See, now I used to say 6 lack instead of 6 lac. I still say 6 lack.

[A]

So it's like he will never not be 6 flag to me. I don't know what the hell he thought he was doing with talking about black. No, it's six slack.

[B]

It's definitely six flag. So I'm never one to try to mess up a creative spelling I just look at it, I nod and I say yes. I do know that. I do like that.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. I'm gonna call you what it looked like when I read it. But if that's what you want it to be, props to you.

[B]

I usually just wait for somebody else to say it. And then I try to, because, like, I don't want to be the one that says it wrong first.

[A]

No, I say it wrong. Loud and proud. I'm like, I love that new song by SB K R E. Like, that's not it. I'm like, okay, I love six lak.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Dvsn.

[A]

Oh, dvsn. Oh, my God. And they were like, it's Division. I was like, what?

[B]

You're lying to me. Actually.

[A]

You're lying, actually. And you pissing me off. Division. I love your music. I'm not calling you Division.

[B]

Your name is Dvsn. Exactly. You do a song with 6 lakh and it's over for all y'.

[A]

All. We'll never be able to find it on the Internet. Exactly. If you wanna be Division, you better go take up the dot with the line and the dot on the bottom.

[B]

Listen.

[A]

Cause if I say your name, I'll call you Division.

[B]

Cause if I say your name to that Alexa and she don't play it right, I'm gonna say DvsN. And I bet you she plays it.

[A]

I bet you she plays it.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's the test right there. Alexa proof. Are you Alexa proof?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

But at this point, Alexa probably know more than we do. Cause she know she listening to our swearing in a surveillance state, y'. All.

[B]

I heard. I think I heard Alexa laugh at one of my jokes one time. I'm not playing. I really think I heard Alexa.

[A]

He was on the phone. Laron, you so crazy. Who said that? Laron, you are so crazy. Ha ha, ha, ha ha ha ha.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Like, who said that?

[B]

I can't with Alexa, man.

[A]

Oh, sis, he is tripping. No, no, no, no. It's scary out here. So this was reported by the YouTube, the YouTuber Marcus Brownlee, aka whatever he saying with them letters. So right when Samsung finally released its much hyped foldable phone and started selling it for $1,900, a startup backed by cocaine king Pablo Escobar's brother, Roberto Escobar appeared and offered a suspiciously similar looking phone for $350. Hey, now, your brother being a cocaine kingpin who famously owned an island. And you said, I'm gonna get into phones like my brother's known Wait, wait. For being.

[B]

Wait, what was the difference in price again? Samsung was selling.

[A]

Samsung was 1900, and he and Royalton Escobar was $350.

[B]

Shoot, Samsung was the scammers. No one wants. Samsung was the scammers.

[A]

I'm just saying, like, the family business is cocaine kingpin and empire. He was like, I'm a slam. Like, Samsung phones.

[B]

Listen, I'm all for a POC business number one, but I'm all for somebody trying to live a good, clean life, too. He said, listen, I'm a step away from that. We gonna go into this phone world, fine.

[A]

Cause I'm not trying to get popped, okay?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And if you selling cocaine, it's only a matter of time until some lead around you. Cause listen, it's one of those businesses where there's no, like, hostile. Like, the hostile takeover is murder. It's not like a merger on secession where they come in and they're like, we bought you out. We bought you out of the planet. We're actually sending you up.

[B]

You actually got cinder blocks on your feet right now. And we throwing you in the water. That's what it is when talking to.

[A]

HR means meeting Jesus. You know, it's not for me.

[B]

I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. Listen, they already listening to us right now. Just because they probably got AI hooked up to their little database.

[A]

Filing a complaint means bullets. No, I don't want your formal complaint to be bullets.

[B]

I don't want it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So there is no suggestion box. It's.

[A]

The suggestion is you leave town. Go somewhere we can't find you. Okay. We suggest you get some face plastic surgery. And change your name.

[B]

And change your name.

[A]

So right now, Roberto, we don't know if you did anything illegal, so I'm kind of on your side. You slanging phones? You staying out of the dope game? Okay, so the Escobar family, if you don't know, very little known about this family.

[B]

Yeah, no, tell me about them. Never heard of them.

[A]

You never heard of them because. Yeah, I don't deal with these nefarious types. So in case some of you didn't know this nugget of history, famous drug kingpin Pablo Escobar became one of the richest criminals in history by monopolizing the cocaine trade from Colombia into the US in the late 80s and early 90s, when everyone was doing this kind of stuff. So late 80s and early 90s were. They were a heyday for cocaine. Um, back then, there wasn't really no fent in it like it is now. Fent is short for fentanyl.

[B]

Listen, there's a reason why the saying it hits like crack in the 80s is so popular right now.

[A]

Yes. That was when they were really cooking.

[B]

That's when they was really cooking it.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

It was a thing.

[A]

So they were artisans. They were crack artisans. Okay.

[B]

What was that? What's that chocolate commercial where they show the people the lint? Like they was real lint with it.

[A]

Like they was real lint with it. They had the whisk and, like, the crack potion is just coming off the whisky.

[B]

Just looking how illustrious.

[A]

A Lindell chalk made by the finest cocoa tears.

[B]

Cocoa tear?

[A]

Yeah. He wasn't no dope boy, okay?

[B]

He was a coga tear. He was a cocoa tear.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

If you wasn't building the empire, what was you doing?

[A]

Right? Okay. I went to Le Coca Don Bleu.

[B]

And we love that.

[A]

We love that for y' all when.

[B]

They say the Coke Boo Hotel.

[A]

But back then, it used to be more pure. Every now and then, you'll see a joke on the Internet where you see white people, like, dancing in very good rhythm, like in the 70s, and they were like. That's when they had that pure. Because everybody's on beat. And they're like.

[B]

The Soul Train videos. Yeah, the Soul Train videos of the.

[A]

White people be like. And they'd be all on beat. They're like, that's when they had that pure. And they be hitting it. I was like, oh, my goodness. So this is in the time where people were, you know, doing the notes. Nose powder. Yes, they're still doing it. But, you know, it's much riskier these days, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

It's very, like, I don't know if your bump. The bump is worth the life. I don't think it is.

[B]

It's not, no.

[A]

But. So at this time, Pablo had a net worth of $30 billion before he was killed by Colombian National Police in 1993. Now, look, we're not gonna laud Pablo. He was terrorizing Colombia, and he took a lot of lives, a lot of innocent lives. A lot of lives of people who were involved in the drug game, family members who weren't even involved. Like, why am I in it? Like, he was a bad man.

[B]

I'm glad you. Because I was about to call him an ethical billionaire. I'm glad I did not. I'm glad I did not.

[A]

He's just a billionaire. He's just a billionaire billionaire. People died along the way, and you didn't take care of them. It's just a fact. You dig into any billionaire, you will find bodies. Okay? They may. They may justify them in certain ways.

[B]

Or whatever, but he ran into my knife. I'm telling you.

[A]

It's like we don't know where that man went when he fell off the forklift. No, you do. And it was an OSHA violation. We know what y' all be doing. We know what y' all be doing. Those are still murders with the. We count them.

[B]

We count them.

[A]

But so, you know, he was a menace to. He wasn't more than a menace to society. He was a menace to, like, the continental U.S. columbia, you know, he was a menace to the world.

[B]

To the Northern and Southern hemisphere, actually. Just a menace.

[A]

There's menaces to society, then there's menaces to. Yeah, like the global.

[B]

To the human race. To the human race as we know it.

[A]

As we know it is crazy for one man to be a menace to a human race is wild.

[B]

Listen, only another one is able to do that. And there is a whole day in September dedicated to him. That is the only other menace to the human race.

[A]

Lordy. So as Pablo Escobar's accountants, Roberto, his brother, ran the books for the multi billion dollar drug operation, was also in charge of its assassination squad. All right, Roberto, goddamn. We was gonna try to be on your side selling phones, but you over here cooking the books and the people. That's assassination squad.

[B]

Do you think the cell phones were like a money launderer thing?

[A]

We'll get to it. Is really what's striking me. Because how do you apply for these positions?

[B]

Ooh, you gotta. Because they can't go through. Indeed.

[A]

No.

[B]

You can't go through. Indeed.

[A]

No, I think they could because they would be a breath of fresh air. Cause they would put their hourly rate. They just wouldn't tell you what the job is.

[B]

Listen.

[A]

And I'd be more. To see what the job is for the.

[B]

Let me see what it's about.

[A]

They said $300 an hour. Okay, well, let me go on down there.

[B]

Let me go fill out this application, right?

[A]

Let me go fill out. They say you must fill out in person. In person.

[B]

In person.

[A]

In person. Come fill out in person. And I go down there, and the next thing I know, like, why am I holding a chopper? Listen, like, this is a part of your onboarding.

[B]

Why. Why is the in. Why is the orientation so dark? Then they lifted us. Yeah.

[A]

They said, this is. We do pay for training. We are going to pay you today for training. You may have to pay with your life if you don't succeed.

[B]

And if you don't pay, you will pay.

[A]

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[B]

Educated. Yes.

[A]

Yeah. So it was like he did the murders and he also, you know, like pending.

[B]

Like he could sign the death certificate too.

[A]

Yeah, he could. And he could also be like, okay, well what are we filing? Okay, so bullets. Oh, we're up in bullets this month. Okay. Okay, well, we need to get better aim because guys, we're running through bullets. Like this is what he was doing. It's horrible.

[B]

Hey, logistics.

[A]

We think about it. If you're running a criminal enterprise that's worth over $30 billion, you do have to do some forensic accounting.

[B]

Listen, there's a difference.

[A]

Otherwise people could be stealing from you.

[B]

There's a difference between Escobar and Big Meech is all I gotta say.

[A]

Cuz Escobar, Robert Escobar was over here. Like, I really think we should get a wholesale deal on. On the bullets because that would really help like everybody. Y' all out here buying individual.

[B]

Like, listen, Escobar said if you had a business and you knew what it'd take to run that business, then you would. He went kim k on him.

[A]

He did. And nobody wants to work anymore.

[B]

Nobody wants to work. He said, get your and work.

[A]

Get your ass up and work. So in. In 2016. Cause he was still alive in 2016. This is Roberto.

[B]

Oh, I was like, no, not Pablo.

[A]

Yeah. No. Boo. They got Pablo up out of here in 93, which they needed to. He needed to go.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So in 2016, Roberto sent a letter to Netflix demanding $1 billion because they were using his family's story in the show Narcos without buying the rights from Escobar Inc. More on Escobar, Incorporated later. Now, y' all got an escort for crime.

[B]

I say, me, personally, I would just pay him.

[A]

I mean, if I was Netflix.

[B]

Actually, you own Netflix now. There's something that some things you just have to be willing to give up, and that's one of them.

[A]

We about to. We actually gonna send you a tape right now. It just says, yeah, that's yours.

[B]

That's yours.

[A]

That is yours.

[B]

It's gonna be hot. It's gonna. Trust me.

[A]

Do with it what you will.

[B]

What you will like. It's gonna be hot. We not going to use it. We going to come up with something else. You take. We going to meet Cha Ching, Cha Ching or something.

[A]

But no, no, no, no, no. I'm not even gonna. We're not gonna dispute this. So. Also, though, Narcos on Netflix gave us Pedro Pascal. I know that's not. That's not relevant to this, but I love Pedro Pascal.

[B]

I like how. How fluent you sound every time you say these.

[A]

I am a little bit fluent.

[B]

Poquito.

[A]

Un poquito.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, love Pedro. So it's like, Narcos. You're really great for giving us Pedro. And I actually really enjoyed watching Narcos because I, like, went and, like, researched so much more about it afterwards. Like, I'm not usually a big True Crime head because sometimes it creeps into, like, exploitative, where I feel like I'm just watching, like, a real nice hometown lady get murdered, and then all her family's still alive and stuff. And that's, like, kind of unsavory.

[B]

Yeah, it's a little icky.

[A]

But I understand some of y' all out there really enjoy it. I'm not. Y' all can hear. Yum. But so, yeah, reached out to Netflix and said, run us that 1 billion for narcos. Roberto eventually gave up the fight with Netflix in 2018 and picked up another one, this time with Elon Musk. Oh, now I don't know who to root for.

[B]

Listen. Anybody that makes me silent.

[A]

The enemy of my enemy is.

[B]

Is my enemy.

[A]

Enemy, Enemy.

[B]

Enemy light, enemy adjacent.

[A]

Like, it's like one is enemier than the other.

[B]

Who's gonna out enemy the enemy.

[A]

Right? Who's the menace? Y' all are both menaces to the human race. So y' all got. Y' all stacked there.

[B]

But listen, y' all neck and neck on that one, right?

[A]

Y' all have. So it's like, who do we decide with?

[B]

Who do we root for?

[A]

So, Escobar entrepreneurs. Escobar, Inc. Was a tech startup founded by Pablo Escobar's brother, as mentioned before, Roberto Escobar. Roberto was out here doing a lot of work. Okay, look, Pablo got pops, but Roberto lived on. He said, look, I'm gonna keep filling out this paperwork. I'm gonna get Nuke, I'll try to sue Netflix. Then I'm gonna come up with a tech startup thriving.

[B]

Even Prince. I live. Mike, Jack. Hey, now.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Hey, now.

[A]

So. And that. That was really deep. Y' all should think about that, y'.

[B]

All. There's a message in that.

[A]

It really was.

[B]

It really was.

[A]

There was. So he started this tech startup, right, Roberto, and had it run by Swedish CEO Olaf Gustafsson, AKA El Salencio.

[B]

No. Is that him right? Right here?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I. I'm scared of him too, now.

[A]

He's Swedish now, how his name become El Silencio? That mean he was really out here doing. You got a nickname in a different language?

[B]

Everybody who has a nickname in another language, from another.

[A]

From another culture.

[B]

Yes. Like, I gotta. I have a black friend, and he has, like. I forgot what his nickname was, but he has, like, this Hispanic nickname. I'm like, oh, you in deep. You're there. And I. And I rock with it.

[A]

I'm scared of you.

[B]

I'm scared of you, because if I get jumped, there's gonna be two different groups of people coming up to jump me, right?

[A]

My name is Lacey Mosley, but on the streets, they call me Sztatsvootsi.

[B]

Oh, I would stay away from you. I would stay away from you. My name is Lacey, but my nickname is Svetlana. Like, I don't want the Russians coming for me. Come on now.

[A]

What have you done to her?

[B]

Respect.

[A]

That's what we want to know. So we got a picture of him.

[B]

Like, did you beat up the. Did you beat up the big boss?

[A]

Yeah, beat up Don.

[B]

You gotta beat up the. To get a nickname like that.

[A]

So we're looking at Olaf Gustafson right here. And something tells me about his nickname being El Silencio is that he was probably silencing people forever. I don't know.

[B]

His daddy might be Hispanic. I see it in his face a little bit.

[A]

His last name is Gustafson.

[B]

Well, his Mama might be Hispanic.

[A]

Gustafsson.

[B]

Well, his mama might be Hispanic. You don't. I see a little. I see a little excuse.

[A]

Wait, wait. You know what, Laron? We are not about the 23 and meet his murderer. I'll see a bit. No, you can see a little bit of it. But he was trying to get your race. No, I see a little bit.

[B]

He got a little mestizo. I see it in his.

[A]

No, not mestizo. I'm leaving. You don't see it. It's all in the nose, baby.

[B]

You got to look at the place in the nose.

[A]

But he has those, like, tiny, like, dark, beady eyes that just tell you, like. And a little bit of the CRO Magnum forehead. It's really giving. Like, he does the murders, and then he goes and has, like, a big, like, spaghetti dinner.

[B]

Ooh, I could see that.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like, it feel like he could really dismember somebody and then go to his child's recital.

[B]

I was like, wait, have you seen Trapp? The M. Night Shyamalan movie?

[A]

No, I haven't seen it.

[B]

It's basically that, like, this guy was literally conducting murders and all this other stuff. Right.

[A]

But then he takes his daughter to a concert.

[B]

Yes. And he's like. He's like the American dad that looks like him.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

He's like the perfect American. And it's like, he's like, have fun at your concert, Emily. He smiles in the smileph age. And it's like, he's like, evil. And he's like, evil. Yes, Yes.

[A]

I mean, those people exist. BTK was like that. He had a whole family of stuff, and he was over here torturing and killing folks.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

So, you know, people be out here living them double lives, but it's like.

[B]

Who knows in the house, Someone has to.

[A]

Someone has to know. But you know what? We not even gonna say that allegedly y' all didn't know.

[B]

Y' all don't know.

[A]

And we're not. We're not saying about anybody specific, so. But yeah, so this tech startup company was run by this Swedish CEO, El Silencio, AKA Olaf Gustafsson. I don't see Olaf on a computer, but go off. I thought he was deleting people. I know he was like, deleting files.

[B]

Deleting files.

[A]

But okay, so going up into 2014, it capitalized on the Escobar family name, of course, because it's a very infamous name. So flamethrowers. In 2019, Escobar Inc. Started selling a $250 flamethrower, which was a ripoff of the joke when Elon Musk was already selling the Boring Company. Oh, my God, What a cool name.

[B]

The Boring Company. The Boring Company. Oh, my God.

[A]

See? Bullying could have saved us all.

[B]

Could have saved us a lot, actually.

[A]

Bullying might have put us in this position with Elon. I don't know. No, he was always gonna be a villain. He was always gonna be a villain.

[B]

If we bullied him, he probably would have ran for president.

[A]

Bullying is actually what's helping us now.

[B]

Yes. No, it is.

[A]

Permission to bully. So must flamethrower.

[B]

Permission granted.

[A]

Right? Must flamethrower, which was called not a flamethrower. Get it, guys? It's not a flamethrower from the boring Company. I'm cool, right? I get humor. This is humor. I'm doing humors to you.

[B]

See, that's when you make sound of humor. That's when Virgil should have stepped in and sued, because I feel like that was Off White's whole brand. Like, if you had a shirt, it would literally just say shirt in, like.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah. And I, like, I love my Off White. Rest in peace, Virgil. But, yeah, not a flamethrower. Wink, wink.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

So it had sold out of his limited 20,000 doll unit production run at $500 a piece, because, you know, his fans will buy anything, so. But Roberto had accused Elon of stealing his design and said one of Elon's engineers visited Escobar's business compound two years earlier and talked about a toy flamethrower idea with Roberto.

[B]

Wait, it's a toy?

[A]

Yeah. You know how toys have fire coming out of them? Yeah.

[B]

No, no, for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Like a lighter. That's for babies.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

And then when you get older, you get a flamethrower.

[B]

Right? Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Toddlers.

[B]

Yes. No, for sure. For sure. It's almost like when you give them that little. That little propane gas can and the little lighter and the lighter.

[A]

Yeah. Or even some hairspray.

[B]

And then they graduate to that.

[A]

Kids, don't get any ideas. Turn this off for your kids right now. Oh, my gosh. I might have to take that out. No, y' all just turn it down, okay? The kids shouldn't be listed unless they're infants.

[B]

They ain't grown folks.

[A]

And then turn it. Turn it on in the other room so it can get more streams. So. So Roberto's accusing Elon of stealing his toy. Roberto said he dropped the case if Elon either paid him 100 million dol or made him, the new CEO of Tesla.

[B]

Hey, he said, you think it's small, we gotta think big.

[A]

Tarto literally was using the Escobar name for all he could. Cuz you know what? I bet you back when they were like doing so many more murders on a large scale, he could ask for ridiculous stuff like this and people would give it to him because he was a professional murderer.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You know what I mean? He was a murder coordinator and he was really great at his job. And so now I think he doesn't realize. Realize people aren't as scared because he's still trying to do the same shakedowns. He was like, Netflix, give me a billion dollars, Elon, 100 million. Or. Or.

[B]

You made me see you.

[A]

You made me see you. Honestly, he would be a better CEO of Tesla because we've been seeing what Elon been letting hold strap, the stock drop off, cars blowing up. Listen, Roberto only has a Tesla blow up if he needs it too. For specific retaliatory purposes. Everybody else has.

[B]

I had to get rid of him.

[A]

I had to give r. I'm the CEO of Tesla. I just turn it off. It off while he drives. See? But honestly, innocence would be spared.

[B]

If you told me right now that Roberto Escobar was the CEO of Tesla. I would not blink an eye. That's where we are. That's where we are in this world right now. It wouldn't be news. I'd be like, okay.

[A]

I'm like, anyway, what is going on?

[B]

How does this affect the market? Because I got shares in Tesla. Like, how does this affect the market? Please let me know. It's probably going up.

[A]

No, it actually went up.

[B]

Okay, it went up.

[A]

It was a positive thing. People see this as a positive, like a positive change, but yes. So Roberto's a very unserious person, but you know what? He lived a very unserious life. It used to be serious. He used to just say these things. So I don't know, neither of those things happened, obviously, but that was fine because Roberto had another idea in the works. Look, Roberto is a serial entrepreneur. Hey, you can't keep Roberto down.

[B]

Listen, like I said, I support a POC business. I support a pr. Listen, men in tech, men in stem, all of the things.

[A]

Because they did so much support. Laron. Men in tech. Oh my gosh. Where are the charities? Where is the support for the men in tech?

[B]

Men and nonprofits. Come on, come on.

[A]

Men on Wall Street. Who is looking out for them? That's what I want to know.

[B]

Men in IT everywhere. There's not enough.

[A]

There's not enough. And like older men. Older men, the oldest that you can.

[B]

Get in government, like in government, ageism is at an all time high.

[A]

Yes. Okay, we need to pull up to the hospital. We gotta take it too far. So now here's Roberto's next idea. Samsung Galaxy Fold. This is his next idea. So after he could not become the CEO of Tesla or get $100 million out of Elon.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

He said Samsung Galaxy folds because that's the natural in his. In where he going. I saw it coming. I don't know why you didn't guess it. Jaron, I need you to pay attention.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because now I feel like you're not paying attention to the episode because why did you not know that his next venture was going to be Samsung Galaxy Fold?

[B]

Listen, who wouldn't. Who would have thunk? Who would have thunk?

[A]

Not me. Not me. But let's hear him out.

[B]

Let's hear him out. I'm listening.

[A]

So some of you might remember Samsung's first folding phone that came out in 2019. I don't know why we need the phone to fold like a book.

[B]

Like, what do we need a magazine phone for? This just feels.

[A]

Feels like something that they could do. And then Samsung just be doing shit. Samsung sponsored the show. Y' all just be doing shit. And why not? Samsung said why not?

[B]

They say, y' all remember the Kindle?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's do the reverse of that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The reason we got the Kindle was to eliminate books. Let's bring the books back.

[A]

Right. But it's still gonna be.

[B]

But it's still gonna be a screen.

[A]

It's gonna be touch screen, but you got to pop it open.

[B]

Yes. It's like the reverse flip phone. It's like instead of hot dog style, it's hamburger style. Yeah, it's really that.

[A]

So we used to have hamburger flip, and this is giving me hot dog flip.

[B]

It's hot dog flip now.

[A]

And honestly, hot dog flip doesn't strike my fancy as much because the one thing that I missed about hamburger flip was that if you got angry on a phone call, you'd be like, bitch.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Clamp it down.

[B]

Like. Like what you do with the hot dog.

[A]

Yeah, it don't work now. I'm praying for you. No, like, that's not what I wanted to do. I'm wishing you evil. I'm wishing the worst. And now I'm praying for you.

[B]

No, you could. I'm closing this chapter.

[A]

Oh, okay. That's classic.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I like that. I feel like there's nothing inconspicuous about this. One thing about a phone. Like, you. Sometimes you have to sneak on your phone. Sometimes in certain places. You can't sneak with that Bible in your right hand.

[A]

I cannot sneak with it.

[B]

You can sneak with that flip up now or that little slide up. You can sneak with that.

[A]

But now, maybe I would be for this, just because we do have a rampancy of people in America filming people without their consent or knowledge. And if everybody had to open up their Bible phone, where you be like, what you doing over there? I know you ain't praying.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Put that down.

[B]

Put it down right now.

[A]

You can be on your phone and act like you're taking a selfie or something and you're fully just filming someone, or you can have it low or you filming, like, here, you know.

[B]

You know, in Japan, their phones are actually required to have the flash and, like, make the sound.

[A]

Yes. And I think that's beautiful. And I think our phones should be doing the exact same thing. Too many of y' all are trying to get content out here off people's backs. Exactly. And anytime I see See that, like, someone has tried to get content off someone who wasn't consenting and then ended up getting their ass beat, I'm like.

[B]

Good for the ass beater, please.

[A]

Thank you. More of that.

[B]

Good for the bt not the b T. Good for the b Tur. But not the bt.

[A]

Yeah, we're not on the BT side.

[B]

We're not on the BT side at all.

[A]

No, because you shouldn't be doing that. It's such a violation. But, yeah, I don't know about this Bible phone, but you know what, Roberto? He has vision.

[B]

He has vision.

[A]

And one thing he does have, we know for sure he don't got none of these companies or none of this money he asks for. But he does have audacity. So let's see what he's doing with the Samsung Galaxy Phone.

[B]

Black Men in Audacity, or PLC Men in Audacity.

[A]

Yeah. I was like, this man is Colombian. We got our own people. We got our Frank Wipes, but this one isn't ours. So he's talking about the Galaxy Fold now, as one does when you can't get Elon Musk to give you the company. So the fact that this Galaxy Fold opened like a book with a screen inside was intended to be an impressive future tech design, despite it having some quirky flaws. Sometimes debris got in through the hinge and damaged the screens, and other times Users accidentally removed, like, a protective layer that looked temporary but was meant to be permanent. So that's like when you. When somebody get their windows tinted, but it's like a cheap tint job, and then your kids be in the back just pulling it off. It's like they gave them a bad tint job, and they're like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't take that off. That's not a part of the. They were like, ooh, just like, new.

[B]

And they're like, now, see, that's when you got to start really talking to your kids and be like, hey, why would you do that?

[A]

Why do kids do anything?

[B]

Why do kids just be doing stuff?

[A]

Just like Samsung Galaxy.

[B]

Samsung Galaxy is the kids of the phone world. Like, they just be doing.

[A]

They just doing stuff. Like, I don't know. What if it's a phone? I don't know.

[B]

Like, what?

[A]

Do it. Let's do it.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

I don't know. Toilet, Samsung. Is that anything?

[B]

Is that a thing? Let's go. Let's make a refrigerator, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Yeah, Hear me out.

[A]

What if it's a Sam?

[B]

What if you could tweet what they did, though, on your refrigerator?

[A]

Hear me out.

[B]

Hear me out.

[A]

You really can't tweet on the Samsung refrigerator?

[B]

No. I don't know if. Have you ever seen. It's like this post. It was like an Ariana Grande fan page, right? It's like a series of tweets that are so viral. It's like this girl, she's like, guys, my mom found my Ariana Grande fan page on Twitter. She's making me get rid of it. And it said, sent tweet from iPhone. And then she pulls out her Nintendo ds, and it's like. It's a tweet, and it says, I'm back, guys. And it says, sent tweet from ds, Nintendo ds. And my mom took my ds and it said, tweet sent from Samsung. Friends.

[A]

She was dedicated. She was dedicated. Her mom. Like, you've been making so much ice lately. Don't worry about it, Mom.

[B]

Now this your third gogurt.

[A]

What's going on in the past four minutes? What is going on?

[B]

What's going on?

[A]

You know what? Steph's like, I love that y' all are the kids and the phone girl.

[B]

Just keep doing anything, please.

[A]

Why not a phone? But it's also lip gloss. I don't know. Listen, I'll take that. That's free.

[B]

Listen, one thing. In social media, they te you just do A bunch of stuff until something.

[A]

Sits, until something like that.

[B]

And that's your niche at the wall.

[A]

And then that's your niche.

[B]

That's your niche. If your niche is randomness, continue to do randomness.

[A]

Samsung, like Roberto, that's his niche is.

[B]

We love Roberto.

[A]

We don't love him, but we do love him. We love his innovation.

[B]

We love his.

[A]

No, we love his.

[B]

We love his innovation.

[A]

The idea of his thoughts that didn't have to do with murder.

[B]

We love his opportunistic mindset in his face.

[A]

Okay, there we go. We got. We got.

[B]

We got there.

[A]

We got there.

[B]

There was a journey.

[A]

Yeah, it was this for the first time. It was a little.

[B]

Yeah, but there was a valley.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. We're definitely. We're in the black.

[B]

Yes, yes. And we are black.

[A]

We're always in the black.

[B]

We're always in the black.

[A]

So nevertheless, you know, Samsung persisted with their goofiness and began selling these puppies for almost $2,000. Remember, they were $1,900 a book.

[B]

Yes, 1,900 a book.

[A]

So that same year, a smaller brand with a great name recognition announced that they could also sell you a folding ph. Theirs was gold plated at a fraction of the price. Hey, now, you want to guess who this brand is?

[B]

I want to take a wild guess.

[A]

Okay, go on the wild. The wildest side.

[B]

Is it Roc Nation? I'm joking.

[A]

Roc Nation.

[B]

Count your days, Roc Nation. Count your days, Roc Nation.

[A]

Now. Okay, I have a better thing. We already know what the company is. What would you name this phone? If it's the. It's a folder phone and it's also gold plated. And you know, it's definitely coming from.

[B]

Hey, Nathan.

[A]

Roberto.

[B]

The golden Bible. That's what I call it.

[A]

Okay, you call it the golden Bible.

[B]

I call it the gold.

[A]

Okay. They went with Escobar Fold. Gets the people going.

[B]

Gets the people going. Listen, sometimes it's not about the name.

[A]

Brand recognition is already there, okay? Hey, if you're the Chanel of Murder, you don't really need to come up with. You don't really need to come up with, like some. We know Chanel. You know what I mean?

[B]

Exactly. You know how many good albums I've listened to with horrible names?

[A]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[B]

So many. So many movies, too. Like, you got served Invisible Man.

[A]

They did not try with Invisible Man. I was like, well, we know he ain't. We ain't gonna be able to see him.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You know what they said? Look, we just gonna tell you what you need to know you're not gonna be able to see him. Cause he's an invisible man.

[B]

He's an invisible man. Like, what is the plot? The man. The man who is invisible.

[A]

Who is invisible.

[B]

Do what you will.

[A]

Like, need we say more?

[B]

Exactly. Now, if you wanna watch I'm a.

[A]

Legend, you not gonna know what this movie.

[B]

Okay, exactly.

[A]

Is Will Smith talking to mannequins. We did not make that clear.

[B]

No, no one really understood that. No, there was nothing understanding about that title at all.

[A]

And you know what? It also still had Riz for me. Cause I was just like, you know, let's go find out why he is the legend.

[B]

Look, look, no one knows what it means, but it's provocative. Gets the people going.

[A]

Okay, so Escobar fold. So to mark the 26th anniversary of Pablo Escobar's death, on December 3, Rober launched the Escobar Fold One. Now he's doing it like the iPhone. He already got a one.

[B]

A one.

[A]

He letting us know it's gonna be a sequel.

[B]

Listen, there will be a sequel dropping. Okay?

[A]

And it's a gold plated foldable smartphone with a flexible screen that can be unfolded into a tablet and used Google's Android operating system. So this is the Escobar Fold.

[B]

This looks like a Nintendo Switch, but.

[A]

It'S also like flexible. Like. So here's an extremely subtle ad featuring the Escobar girls. You ain't got the Escobar girls involved. That sounds like a fake.

[B]

They sound like the Wild N Out girls. But like for Escobar.

[A]

Oh, wait, but that's really what they are. Wait, they are the Wild out girls, but for Escobar. So this is the ad. Okay, It's a girl.

[B]

She's got her book.

[A]

She got her book. It's a big book. Okay. She's unfolding the. It's a lot of breasts. It's like the girls are like opening the phone, but it's like also the breasts are fully in frame. This is like, you know how you work a phone with your boobs?

[B]

Yeah. This is like a Victoria's Secret ex Samsung Collab. They got Bluetooth bralettes. They finna promote right now.

[A]

Like, I just know it's somewhere in the bralette that I can stick to. Escobar phone.

[B]

Listen, it's a portable speaker right here in the bosom, right?

[A]

Yeah. You don't even gotta worry about like getting headphones. It's just attached to the bra straps.

[B]

And it's like somewhere it has a hyperbole frequency that goes in through the areola, and then you can hear it in your ear.

[A]

I'm talking something. Cause we got working. Cause otherwise, we were trying to post that video. I hope it doesn't get taken off of Instagram, because it was very. Like, they were opening the phone with the titties above the phone. Like, what am I supposed to be looking at the phone? Or the.

[B]

Y' all done broke so many HIPAA violations with that one commercial. Hipaa. Somebody. We gotta get everybody. We gotta get the NFL, the CIA, the NBA, everybody on the phone for that commercial.

[A]

Yeah, that commercial was wild as hell.

[B]

Now, that might be a osha, right?

[A]

And the director's just like, yeah, yeah. Like, no, hold the phone up. Oh, to my ear. To my ear.

[B]

No, lower. No lower.

[A]

Oh, oh. Like, Like. Like you want to. Like, I hold it, like, near my face. Like, near my chin.

[B]

No, lower.

[A]

Yeah, we're thinking upper stomach.

[B]

No, but you can't. We can't talk on the phone from this angle. Yeah, that's. Cause we're promoting the speaker. Yeah, we're promoting the speaker feature. How you press the speaker button and you can hear y' all even all the way from down here.

[A]

You can hear it all the way from the boobs to the ears. Yeah, that's what we're telling people. The sound is great.

[B]

Exactly. From the boob to the tube. Like that. That's our motto, no?

[A]

So, of course, Pablo Escobar's brother didn't really actually make any phones. What he made were brand labels, like you said, Laron. To put on top of other brands phones. The Escobar Fold 1 was obviously a rebrand of the Royale Flex PI, which is another smartphone maker that actually beat Samsung to creating the first foldable phone. Royole went bankrupt in 2024, and Samsung led like Samsung. You saw one foldable phone and thought, oh, they went bankrupt. Let's do it again.

[B]

Let's do it again.

[A]

Cause y' all doing anything over there. That's why.

[B]

Listen, sometimes it's like, what is it? Oreos. Oreos was a knockoff.

[A]

That's true. Sometimes a knockoff you better than the original list. Or one of my favorites is, like, Qdoba and how they don't really do advertising for real. Like, they'll just pop up next to a Chipotle. And I was like, I know that's right. Like, imagine your competition.

[B]

Or like how Subway show up next to you. And when Subway took Quiznos out the game, Damn crazy.

[A]

That hurt me. Cause I remember them little rats that be like eat Quiznos subs. Cause they are good to us. They are tasty. They are country. You can't eat them. They got a pepper bar. It's.

[B]

You quoting it word for word. Bar for bar.

[A]

Y'. All, I used to love those commercials. If, you know, you know Quiznos, Quiznos. If you come back, RIP Cuz, like, some ways survived some pretty bad scandals to still take y' all out. Like, honestly, y' all should have got ruthless with Jared. The whole Jared situation been like, we ain't got nobody like that over here at Quiznos House.

[B]

Like, hey, me personally over here at Quiznos.

[A]

We would have said we wouldn't have that kind of shenanigans. We can't. We have little crazy looking rat things with weird teeth representing us. Okay?

[B]

And that's better than that.

[A]

Man.

[B]

Did you see that one girl from Love Island? She refounded, like a perfume company or something like that. I will do that with Quiznos. I will refound Quiznos.

[A]

Can we refound? Can we find something again?

[B]

We can refound something. We can be the refounders.

[A]

Speaking of which, you are wearing Lubu Boo.

[B]

I am.

[A]

Which is a refound.

[B]

Yes. And he is wearing his shiesty and gold chain.

[A]

Shiesty and gold chain in honor of scam goddess, which is so beautif. And you know that's just a refound Beanie Baby.

[B]

You know, it may be, but, like.

[A]

It does have a little bit more wrist, though. But then when you see the teeth, you be like, ah.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we got his mouth covered.

[A]

Oh, gosh. Yeah. Keep him in the shade.

[B]

Put it away. Count the teeth. A real Labubu only has what, like, nine teeth? Like nine teeth? Yeah. The real Labubu only has nine teeth. You have to count the teeth. Cause if he has, like, eight Met.

[A]

Y' all got authentication situations for the Labubu?

[B]

Yes. No, there's authentications for the Labubus. Now.

[A]

He's got nine teeth, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

You heard it.

[B]

It has to have nine teeth. That was the one indicator. I remember my little sister, she had one with 11, and I didn't have the heart to tell her that wasn't real. Yes.

[A]

Not the Lenunu. Lenono.

[B]

Lefufu.

[A]

Lefoufu. She had a lefufu.

[B]

She had a lefufu.

[A]

Aw. So the $399 Escobar Fold 2 was actually just a Samsung Galaxy Fold. Tech YouTuber, Marx Brownlee, aka MKHBD. We're bringing him back. We have. I haven't talked about him in a Minute.

[B]

Yes. Welcome back.

[A]

Welcome back to the show, Mr. Marquez. So he showed how very little effort had gone into hiding this fact in a 2020 video. And we have the video. So at the time, Olaf, remember, that's the El Salencio, who's the CEO of all the Roberto Escobar's tech companies, said that they had bought Galaxy Folds that failed Samsung's quality control standards and had been returned or were classed as overstock by retailers who overestimated how many that they would sell. So that's why in this video that this YouTuber discovers that the phones are very similar, because they are.

[B]

And this Escobar fold, it's the same phone with a gold sticker glued to it. It's actually a Galaxy Fold with gold tin foil adhesive to it. You take a bit of that gold off the gold, tinfoil hinge on the back, and right underneath. Oh, he's playing a dangerous game. Look right where it's supposed to be.

[A]

And he.

[B]

And the gold foil comes off the back with a box cutter or a knife or really enough heat to melt the adhesive. So it's not pretty, but yeah, it is playing a dangerous game.

[A]

Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm not getting on the Internet and telling Pablo Escobar's brother he's wrong about anything.

[B]

No, this is dangerous.

[A]

I feel like this is group chat activity.

[B]

I feel like you just exposed a bunch of family secrets right now, and now they're after you.

[A]

They might have to find you.

[B]

They're going to find you for this.

[A]

They're going to pray for you that maybe that's why you put your name to all them letters.

[B]

Like 9 million views.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

No, he's.

[A]

I think he can't have.

[B]

Roberto was one of those views, trust me.

[A]

Oh, Roberto was many of those views. Okay. He might get some of the murder for hires out of retirement.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

You better be careful, my guy. That's why he changed his name to all them letters. He said, I can't have a name no more. I got to just be letters, you.

[B]

Know, Listen, they might track you through your PO Box too. You gotta take all that information.

[A]

Yeah. Make sure you scrubbed on the Internet. But he fully uncovered and ripped off the plastic. And like, there was the Samsung label. So all they did was like. We know Olaf said that he got them by overstock retailers or, you know, control standards. Now what befuddles the mind here is it must have been cheaper to buy these Samsungs that were either defunct or like overstocked in bulk or something. Because I don't understand why you would buy a phone that was being sold for so much more. Like, it's being sold for $1900, and now you're selling it for, like, basically $400 and slapping some gold branding on the back. Like, how do you make money off.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Hmm.

[B]

Something that rhymes with schmoney. Schlongstering, potentially. That's what it sounds like to me.

[A]

Who's giving you schmoney? Schmantering.

[B]

Schmoney schmantering.

[A]

I don't know if Roberto's the kind of guy who has to shmoney shmonter at this point in his career.

[B]

I mean, some people just do it for the sport.

[A]

They just do it for the thrill.

[B]

Just do it for the thrill. Love of the game.

[A]

So, like, buying, restock and reselling it, like I just said, for a huge loss. It just doesn't make sense. Unless they weren't really selling any at all.

[B]

I couldn't call this. I couldn't even call this drop shipping. I was like, okay, it sounds like drop shipping at first, but then the more you tell me the story and how there's, like, no profit gain and, like, no good profit margins being taken place. And I'm like, no, this is not a good deal at all, actually, at all. The coverup.

[A]

So influencer and celebrity endorsements. So La Ronda. That's why I wanted you here today. Because I know that you sometimes, like, you go and you appear at events and they're like, laron, please come. Please come.

[B]

Is this the part where you asked me would I promote the Escobar phone?

[A]

So I was gonna wait for my presentation. Yes. But if you see, the Escobar phone has dipped a little bit right now because of the bad press it's getting. But I think if le' Ron were to get involved, see how the hand.

[B]

We gotta add a couple of them zeroes on there for that one.

[A]

Okay. I'm just saying, like, are you smart? Do you have an Escobar sp?

[B]

I don't plan to be an ethical billionaire either. I don't plan on being an ethical billionaire either. That may just be my step in the unethical billionaire world.

[A]

So for customers who paid for a phone, Escobar Inc. Would ship them promotional items or fake certificates of ownership or a copy of Roberto's autobiography, the Accountant's Story.

[B]

Oh, thanks.

[A]

Talk about a title that ain't shit. We got the Invisible Man. We got the accountant story. I don't wanna know the accountant. I feel like that's a Lot of just crunchy numbers.

[B]

I don't know who is coming up with these names. What happened to a good movie?

[A]

And I feel like, if you are Pablo Escobar's brother, why would you name your book the Accountant's Story? That is the most boring title. You could have named it anything.

[B]

Like, I don't know, the Cat in the Hat is coming for a second place. Him and the Cat in the Hat are fighting for most boring title on.

[A]

The why the Cat in the Hat, how the cat get in the Hat, and why is the Cat in the Hat?

[B]

You don't wanna know why the accountant got a story. Does it belong to you don't know why the accountant got a story.

[A]

I mean, unless this is implying that accountants don't have stories, typically.

[B]

And he got the one, the one with a story. I never looked at an accountant and been like, dang, he probably got a story. How did you get here? Like, why numbers? I've never looked at an accountant and said that. So for an accountant to have a story, it's gotta be a really good story.

[A]

You are making a really good point here. It does have to be a really good story because we never asked accountants. Like, so, yeah, when you saw a calculator, you were just like, that's this up to you.

[B]

It just made you tingle, didn't it?

[A]

Yeah. So, okay, so the accountant story, he was sending all types of random stuff to people, but not the phone. So mkbhd, which is the man who probably needs to go into WITSEC, the YouTuber Marquez, who uncovered the phone scam, had paid for an Escobar fold one and two under two different names and mailing addresses and never received them. At least he knew not to put the real mailing address until he tweeted about it to his millions of followers. And the company noticed he was a tech influencer. Whenever a payment processing service tried to chase down a customer's money, Escobar Inc. Would present tracking information as proof of delivery. This is a very prevalent scam that happens to this day. Beware of buying things off of Instagram. Random companies, because, baby, they will send you a rock in a box and a tracking number.

[B]

Yeah, they literally will. And they say no.

[A]

And then that email just disappears. You will never find them ever again. So basically, now Olaf. Back to Olaf. El Saliencio would send the tracking info to payment services and make it appear as if the phone had been shipped and received.

[B]

So he was, oh, this is a small business.

[A]

So was he being like El Silencio to the Customers. He was like, silencio. You got your product. It turns out the phones only arrived for influencers left, like MK MKBHD. McBad. Let's just call him McBad.

[B]

McBad. Who's bad?

[A]

Who's bad? McBad. Who might do a video review or an unboxing, making the product seem real. So one of their only celebrity endorsements comes from Chris Hansen, the former host of To Catch a Predator. Hey, Chris Hansen said, I like you and I want you. I see Samsung fold. I got all the. Soto is always a jump scare because.

[B]

Being ethical was never part of his brand.

[A]

Listen, Chris Hansen, he has the face of like, you're in trouble. I've never seen wrestling. Like, look here, buddy, let's sit down.

[B]

You know who he kind of looks like the more I stare at him? Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Rick Astley. That is a. Interesting name. It is Rick Astley.

[A]

I could see that. But also, this man is just. He has principal office face like. Like I've never seen. Just.

[B]

It's definitely giving. I know what you did last summer.

[A]

Yes. It's like, you know all those photos of Anthony Mackie where he looks like he knows a secret about you? Anthony Mackie's face is like. More like.

[B]

This is my favorite. Anthony.

[A]

Like the ones like. Anthony Mackie's face is more like, you know, I know what you did. The authorities are outside.

[B]

He gets that little Janet Jackson smirk.

[A]

Yes. And it's everything.

[B]

Yes. I love it.

[A]

So, Chris Hansen, I don't know, with your whole brand being To Catch a Predator, I feel like. And you did get sued a lot for not.

[B]

Not properly catching them.

[A]

Yes. There was some shakeups there, Chris. But, you know, overall, you were a cultural landmark. And we say your name now.

[B]

People are doing it on YouTube. So he's kind of a pioneer.

[A]

Yeah. That's wild. I'm not gonna. Don't be doing. I don't know if it's helping, if it's helping. So only a handful of influencers got the phones, while regular payments customers received nada. Olaf wired more than $307,000 of scam money between December 2019 and June of 2020. It was the same scheme Roberto and Olaf had done before with paying customers of the flamethrowers. Most of the knockoff flamethrower customers never actually received one either. So he was beefing with Elon, saying, you stole my product. He wasn't even giving the product.

[B]

You stole my dream, Dina. And you stole.

[A]

Oh. Eli took everything from him.

[B]

He Did.

[A]

So the FBI reached out to McBad. That's what we're calling him, the tech YouTuber Marques. After the video, like, came out to review the possible scam that Escobar Inc. Was running. That's what I'm telling y'. All. Like, we worried about 3G and them and the government trying to get us when it's like, we're doing the work for them.

[B]

We buying Escobar files, right?

[A]

The FBI saw a viral video and was like, y' all get on YouTube and comment, hey, this f. Federal Bureau intern. What up? DM us.

[B]

DM us. We have something for you.

[A]

We have some justice for you. Cause, like, what am I getting out of this? So they looked at communications between the Escobar company and the YouTuber's team and seized the peeled off phone sent to him for further examination. Olaf was arrested in Spain two years ago and extradited to the US this year. He had also marketed gold plated iPhones for $500. And the Escobar CA, which was still advertised as the world's first physical cryptocurrency. How you gonna have a physical cryptocurrency? That's money. Hey, how you gonna reinvent money, Pablo? I mean, Roberto. You know what? Labubu. Labubu did it. So you know what we can all make. I got a new money for y' all too. It's in my car.

[B]

Okay, we need to come up with something. We gotta. We gotta like, take. We gotta like, inflate.

[A]

We need to have a Samsung Night where we just get in our Samsung bag and just start.

[B]

Yes, let's do it.

[A]

And we're gonna come up with something amazing. I know we are.

[B]

Samsung Night and wine. That's what we're gonna call it.

[A]

A little wine. So as of 2025, Olaf has pleaded guilty to multiple counts of fraud and money laundering and agreed to pay his victims $1.3 million in restitution. We'll see if they get that. He faces up to 20 years in federal prison for each fraud count and up to 10 years for each money laundering count. And Roberto seems to have gotten away with it yet again. For all his crazy business crimes, he did at least start a GoFundMe impeach Trump during his first term in 2019 because of the treatment of Latino people. So that time, at least he was right. Now we know that GoFundMe was not actually going to. Like when you start a GoFundMe. That is just for vagueness. What do you mean? To impeach Donald Trump. So if we give you $50 million, how you gonna impeach him?

[B]

You know how he gonna impeach him. You know exactly how he gonna impeach.

[A]

Are we using your old school services?

[B]

He just needs the platform, the plan and the method, right? He just needs a little incentive. That was his incentive. Like hey, cause are we taking him.

[A]

Out of office or off the planet? I don't know what you mean by that.

[B]

That's exactly what he means. Cuz it's like he's not an American citizen. It don't make him no difference. He just needs the incentive to be incentivized to go do the job.

[A]

I feel like if we gave you gofundme money for this, we would end up on a watch list. Cause it sounds like a hit. It doesn't like how else you go.

[B]

Next thing you know we all accessories, right?

[A]

I don't want to be an accessory. I'm not accessorizing.

[B]

I'm not an accessory. I'm not a bag, I'm not a necklace.

[A]

None of those earrings. None of it.

[B]

Not a snapback.

[A]

But that brings us to the end of this episode. Laron, we always ask here, where would you like to be found?

[B]

Oh gosh, where would I like to.

[A]

Could be social media, could be anything you want to plug. Whatever the case may be.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

Podcast, whatever.

[B]

Definitely my socials. Laron hinesofficial. You can find more things about me. I do have a podcast called the Zillennial Podcast that I am currently doing. But then also there's something else in the works that I'm currently working on. Not going to tell you guys a little too much but it's going to be super fun. And so please be on the lookout for all of that coming very soon.

[A]

Yes, we love to hear it. Yes. And y', all, you can find me at D I V A L A C I D valacy on all platforms. You can can see all of these jump scare photos and videos on Scam Goddess Pod's Instagram Scam Goddess Pod. You can chat with me on Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter and you can see all six episodes of my television show Scam Goddess on Hulu right now, all streaming. And you can watch the first season of Going Dutch. We are going back for season two. But if you want to see Sergeant Conway, which is my character, nothing Conway don't read into it. Definitely do. And you can listen to my audio audiobook or purchase it anywhere books are sold. It's also called Scam Goddess. What do you know?

[B]

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[A]

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