Lousy Landlords & Beautiful Baddies w/ Amber Wallin

Summary

Scam Goddess Podcast Summary

Episode: "Lousy Landlords & Beautiful Baddies w/ Amber Wallin"
Release Date: March 31, 2026
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Amber Wallin

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Episode Overview

This episode of Scam Goddess is dedicated to all things fraud but with a sharp focus on the wild world of landlord scams, beautiful (but scheming) baddies, and listener-submitted stories of cons and scheming. Host Laci Mosley welcomes comedian/storyteller Amber Wallin, and together they dissect personal and listener experiences, dish out hilarious commentary, and give advice about surviving scams. Key themes include the perils of renting, how scammers manipulate systems, and the resourcefulness required—sometimes with a wink—to flip the script on would-be fraudsters. The episode is a rapid-fire blend of comedy, cautionary tales, and inside jokes for the “con-gregation.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Amber’s Landlord Horror Story

Timestamps: 04:59–13:58

• Amber recounts moving into a Chicago apartment where the landlord promised repairs (painting, doorknobs, window treatments)—but after paying the deposit, nothing was fixed.
• The unit even lacked a doorknob: “You may have seen a knob or two on a door. This place didn’t have a doorknob.” (06:08 – Amber)
• Landlord sent a nephew and his girlfriend to paint, but Amber returned to find them drinking her pink Moscato in her bed: “They were in my bed not painting, they were painting in a proverbial sense… they were also drinking my pink Moscato.” (08:12 – Amber)
• Amber’s solution: she refused to pay further rent until repairs were completed, staying four months for free.
• On handling bad landlords: invoking a fake attorney gets results: “My hands are tied, the council has voted, the congregation has voted.” (13:58 – Amber, via Laci)

2. Listener Letter: The $144 Million Landlord Scam

Timestamps: 18:24–37:28

• Listener Minnie writes in about her former friend Aruba—a “stunningly beautiful” woman turned con artist, now embroiled in a multimillion-dollar landlord scam.
• Aruba, her ex-actor husband, and others ran a property investment scam, misusing $144 million in investor funds meant for housing in struggling neighborhoods.
• The scam involved flexing on social media with photos of parties, luxury items (like a one-year-old’s Balenciaga bag), and celebrity connections—including Drake and Trump.
• The episode unpacks how beauty and charisma can be weaponized in fraud, but also the darker side of scamming vulnerable communities.
• “The scam that we don’t approve of: why are you scamming people who need housing who are obviously desperate for a human necessity?” (34:07 – Laci)

3. Scams in the Entertainment Industry

Timestamps: 41:39–54:14

NYC Improv Bringer Show Scam

• Listener “Chuck E. Cheese” recounts a story of a 90s NYC actress who had to bring 10 people to an improv show—she filled seats with men from Yahoo Personals.
• She sent out 100 messages, wrangled 40 men to show, performed for them, then fled after the show—her talent manager “big break” never appeared.
• Laci and Amber riff on ‘bringer’ show culture, the absurdity of entertainment grifts, and the hustle of women leveraging male thirst.
• “You gotta love your friend enough to go to their bad improv shows.” (51:58 – Laci)

4. Reverse Scams: Listener "Remy" Fights Back

Timestamps: 55:15–65:36

• Listener Remy receives nonstop predatory calls offering “loans” after losing her job.
• She escalates methods to deter them: cussing out callers, flushing a toilet during calls, feigning limited English, and finally using a fart machine during their pitches. (“What you doing buying a fart machine? You can’t afford a fart right now…” – 63:35, Laci)
• When nothing works, she tells callers “dude, where’s my shit?” until the calls finally dwindle—highlighting both the persistence of scammers and the creativity of those targeted.

5. Identity Theft—Stranger Claims You… in Jail

Timestamps: 66:31–77:44

• Listener “Mickey” describes her driver’s license being stolen in a break-in. Months later, she receives a scanned letter from jail: someone used her identity as their “girlfriend” to collect personal belongings.
• This identity theft led to multiple fraudulent jailhouse accounts; law enforcement offered little help, so Mickey self-led her own investigation and obtained a settlement.
• The story illustrates how scammers exploit systemic gaps and the burden on victims to investigate and clear their own names.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On scamming the scammer (landlords):
  “I gave him a list of things. I said, the following list of things needs to be done in order for you to receive another payment from me.”
  (07:24 – Amber)

• On the utility of a fake attorney:
  “We should all have a fake attorney. ...Like, so powerful that you don’t even ask for details. They’re like, no, they’ll find you, baby.”
  (13:23 – Laci)

• On beauty and crime:
  “She looks like she got that skin that’s real poreless. So like when you’re in person, like, the skin is just so smooth... you gotta do crime.”
  (21:22–21:34 – Laci)

• On scammers flexing too hard:
  “Y’all are scamming and then really flexing in a way... you could have just invested, been quiet about it…The white glove service was a tell…”
  (34:46 – Amber)

• On bringer shows in comedy:
  “If you don’t know what a bringer show is, go to New York City... a bringer will appear.”
  (43:47 – Laci)

• On ‘self-led’ careers and investigations:
  “My career is self led.”
  (74:09 – Amber)
  “I don’t believe in bosses. You know what I mean? I’m an independent thinker. I’m in a self led profession.”
  (74:34 – Laci)

• On “upward scamming”
  “If you scammed up because you wouldn’t scam down…you’re classy, you scammed up.”
  (78:35 – Amber)

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Timestamps for Segment Reference

• Amber’s Landlord Scam Story: 04:59–13:58
• Listener Letter: $144M Landlord Scam: 18:24–37:28
• NYC Improv Bringer Scam / Dating: 41:39–54:14
• Reverse Scam: Remy vs. Robocalls: 55:15–65:36
• Identity Theft: Stranger Ties in Jail: 66:31–77:44

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Tone and Language

Funny, conversational, irreverent, and supportive, with a strong undertone of real-world advice and clever survivor energy. The episode is peppered with personal anecdotes, zippy punchlines, empathetic asides, and community-building banter. Both Laci and Amber maintain their comedic POV while validating listeners’ scam trauma and ingenuity.

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Takeaways and Advice

• Don’t be afraid to fight back (creatively!) when you’re being scammed, whether it’s with landlords, businesses, or phone fraudsters.
• Weaponize a “fake lawyer” for quick results from exploiters.
• Beauty and social capital can enable and even mask long-term scamming.
• “Self-led” investigations (aka DIY detective work) are often necessary for scam recovery in broken systems.
• If you’re targeted, you’re not alone—and the con-gregation has your back.
• Always check your mail for suspicious activity—sometimes the USPS Informed Delivery feature will be your unexpected ally.
• Support your friends (even at their bad improv shows).

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Credits & Listen Further

• Amber Wallin: Instagram @burriam, standup tour, and co-host of "Quit Playing with Jasmine & Amber."
• Laci Mosley: Scam Goddess podcast, book, live tour, and TV appearances.

To submit a scam story or snitch: [e-mail]
Stay Schemin' Con-gregation!

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Transcript

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Scams. Cause robbery and fraud Scam CA Robbery and fraud Scam Goddess hey, what's poppin Congregation, it's your girl. Lacey Mosley, AKA scamcodd is coming back to you with a podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. Most of the laugh at them. Um, Congregation, you already know that I'm very what? Yes, I am excited. I am thrilled. We have a fan favorite a a a deaconess in the congregation blessing the show again. I also wanna thank y' all for the love on the Apple reviews. Y' all got me blushing out here. Please don't forget to tell your friends and. And spread the good gospel. And I appreciate y' all rating the show. You're doing a lovely thing for a black woman. If that's all you can do today is give me five stars on Apple Podcasts. You've done your activ. You could tell everybody. You could screenshot. I'd be like, no, they do their activism for today, but today we have an amazing comedian, host, and storyteller on the show. You've heard her on Quit playing with Jasmine W. And you can catch her on the move this year. Y' all can catch her out in the wild. She also has a child named Wild.

[Amber Wallen]

Right, Right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She's in the middle of a standup tour right now, so get out there and get in those seats. And again, support a black queen congregation. Please welcome my friend Amber Wallen back to the show. Amber.

[Amber Wallen]

Hey. I'm so happy to be here. Look at me. Look at. Don't know where the camera is. You can probably see the back of my head. Lacey, I'm so happy to be here with you. You look great. Thank you. And y' all at home, y' all can't smell Lacey from your cars. And the things. Lacey Mosley smells amazing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's my scam. You know, scent is deeply connected to memories. So if you remember me smelling good, then your memories of me are automatically more fond.

[Amber Wallen]

When are you dropping a perfume line? For real?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm trying to make one. I literally, like, got kind of scammed by this perfume studio. Like, they didn't show up. I guess they had an emergency or something, and then I needed to reschedule, but I was in Ireland for four,

[Amber Wallen]

so now I'm hitting them back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I've already paid for the class, and now they're not responding to my email, so it's giving. I'm gonna have to just pull up on the studio.

[Amber Wallen]

Wait, so they didn't follow up with you?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, and they responded. They told me they had a family emergency when I showed up in person, and I was like, hello, I'm trying to make my dreams come true.

[Amber Wallen]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And no one was there, and they didn't send me an email. So then when I got in touch with them, they're like, oh, we had a family emergency. And I was like, okay, I completely understand, but I gotta go away for four months. But I still wanna take this class that I fully already paid for. So, you know, we working on it.

[Amber Wallen]

There wasn't one member that could have emailed me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It feels very mom. I don't think it's really a lot of people up in there. The chemists.

[Amber Wallen]

And you still just. You have paid for this class?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, yes.

[Amber Wallen]

And how long ago is this?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This was like five, six months ago.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

And you are the goddess of scams now, so.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I know. And I just got. I think I got scammed. Cause they not responding to the email. But that's okay. Cause I already had the address of the business location. So, you know, I can just be

[Amber Wallen]

outside, listen, you know what I mean?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, I ain't nothing but somebody's an

[Amber Wallen]

opportunity in bushes when somebody plays with me. And I have your address. Yeah, like, like, what are you doing? Like, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm crazy, but I do have your address in case my eye starts twitching, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And look, I'm not saying I'm crazy either. I'm just saying, you know, you got a bush in front of your house. I stand behind it and wait for

[Amber Wallen]

you to come home. I'm bush shaped, actually. Yeah, I ain't busy. I can get low.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I can get real low.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm fun size for the bushes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now, I have to ask you, obviously we talked just a little bit about me being scammed, but what's your relationship with scams right now? Has anything come across your desk? Have you been scam? Hopefully not. Like I was with this perfume studio that I'm have to slide on. But you know, it can literally be anything.

[Amber Wallen]

I feel like I'm always scammed into housing situations. I'm sure that you're scamming your common

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

one or you're they scammed.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm getting scammed. I. I see the pictures online. I do a walkthrough now. One summer I got. Got Lacey like and I needed to move into this space. Of course I waited till the last minute. So you know how you put yourself in that position where you're like, I gotta move in two weeks, right? So you go, you go do a walkthrough and, and you. And this needs to be painted and whatever. And the landlord's like, you know, if you give me that deposit, all of this stuff will be taken care of when you move in on day one. So you know me, I'm cool. Great. I'll see you in two weeks. We get to two weeks, not nary a thing has been painted. Window panels ain't up. I'm talking, this happened to me in Chicago. I'm talking, it wasn't even no lock. You know how you have a door knob? Do you know what a door knob Is.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I'm familiar with a knob. A knob of a door.

[Amber Wallen]

You may have seen a knob or two on a door. This place did have a door knob. Like, that's what it was.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just like the hole. And you could see through the other side. Where? See through the other side.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes. And so now, Amber. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't want to pause you here, but when you said window treatments and maybe painting, I was with you. I was on the ride. I had my hands up. I was like, wee. But when you said he was going to get you some doorknobs.

[Amber Wallen]

But that's. See, that's a Home Depot run. Cause, you know, here it is. Because we all have an uncle that's like, oh, yeah. Like, if you put your knuckles on the ground, he could have probably got all that stuff with a few men together.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The knobs just feel essential.

[Amber Wallen]

Knob is essential. Like a top. I would say the place was in worse condition than when I went to visit it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No.

[Amber Wallen]

Right. But see, the other lease already.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So he tried to zhuzh it up.

[Amber Wallen]

Tried to zhuzh it up for y'

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

all to walk through.

[Amber Wallen]

Now, here's the.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He had a knob when y' all came.

[Amber Wallen]

He had a knob when he. And then I think he took that knob. He was like, ooh. That was just the staging. The knob was a part of the staging.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The knob is from his house that

[Amber Wallen]

he said, if I could just.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

His wife pissed off, like, baby, why we don't got no knob in the bathroom? Well, I'm gonna bring it back.

[Amber Wallen]

You know what? And now that I'm looking back, it probably was like a handle versus a knob. Like, one of these things are not like the other. So I moved in. I had to stay in this location for four months.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, wow.

[Amber Wallen]

Now, I will say this, because you can't scam me for too long. I stayed in this location. I gave him a list of things. I said, the following list of things needs to be done in order for you to receive another payment from me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. Cause now you got him on the hook.

[Amber Wallen]

Now I got him on the hook. I said, I'm not paying you another dime until the following things are done. And so he never actually took care of the following. He would try to take care of him, but it was just. It was like a house of horrors. Like, for example, one time I said, hey, you told me that my room would have a new paint job, Lacey. This happened to me. I said, you told me my room would have a paint job. So I said, can you get somebody to paint the Room by the end of the week. He said, I can start with that. Done. I got you. I go to work, he sends his nephew over to paint the room. The nephew came over? Now, I would have been cool if it was just your nephew.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Is he sure?

[Amber Wallen]

Nephew and girlfriend came over. When I came back home, they were still painting the room. There was one bucket of paint and one brush, but they weren't painting, Lacey. They were in my bed. They were drinking my wine. Now, this right here, and this will tell you what kind of year it was or when this happened. It was a pink Moscato out of my fridge, okay? So think about when you were drinking pink Moscato, thinking you were that girl. So not only were they in my bed not painting, they were painting in a proverbial sense. They were also drinking my. My pink Moscato. You know, I paid my good 5.99 for that, so.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Also, like, how do they think in that economy and the girlies who buy pink Moscato at that time, that they're not gonna notice that you done sipped on the pink Moscato. We're noticed.

[Amber Wallen]

And now, mind you, I just moved in. Wasn't even nothing in the fridge but the pink Moscato, so. But I did get away with four months of not paying rent, okay?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So.

[Amber Wallen]

Because I said, until these things are fixed, I'm not paying.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So you scammed him back.

[Amber Wallen]

I scammed him back. So I put up with the lions, the tigers, and bears, but I saved four months worth of rent, and then I moved into the next spot.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, and sometimes you had to deal with some drifters drinking wine in your

[Amber Wallen]

bed, but, girl, it was everything. It was mice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

One night, you could sleep in my bed with some wine, maybe for free rent. Just one night, right?

[Amber Wallen]

Just one night.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

One bottle of Moscato.

[Amber Wallen]

Look, I want everybody. I'm always thinking about people listening to this in their car. Everybody in their car right now. Pull over and calculate four months of rent and ask yourself, would you put up with the nephew painting with his girlfriend in your bed for four months of rent?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

For four months of rent.

[Amber Wallen]

I think. I think they.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They would say, baby just ran over something real quick. I think I heard rats.

[Amber Wallen]

Mice. Mice, mice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, mice.

[Amber Wallen]

I feel like Cat Williams.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Mice are like prison and jail are

[Amber Wallen]

not the same mice. Yeah, it was.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, girl, they're the yassified rats. Like, mice are cute. They're in Disney movies.

[Amber Wallen]

Lacey, you're far too classy for things like this, but have you ever had a mouse in your house? No, girl, Let me describe, you know, you laughing. Let me describe. Rich done had a mouse or two, and I'm hoping that you've gotten rid of them when you have a mouse.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm sure he's gotten rid of them.

[Amber Wallen]

Me and Rich know the, the, the, the mental turmoil of having a mouse in your house because it is a, it is a, it is a symbol, if you will, that you have no control of your life. I, I, I truly believe that because you can clean up as much as you want. It's something wrong with the infrastructure.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right.

[Amber Wallen]

When a mouse comes in there. So it's, it's, it's psychological warfare when you're cleaning every day and you still

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

see one and ratatouille and you're killing them.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, there's a hole. I mean, and then you see one and you're like, surely you're the only one. They don't work in ones. No, they, they always roll in the game.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's like when you see a roach, they're, they're the cucaracha. The family is already here. Yeah. Nieces, nephews, babies. They already here.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's terrifying. Also, like, I feel like I would not be able to sleep if there was a rat in my house. Cause I'm like, is the rat gonna crawl over my face? Is the rat gonna get in bed with me?

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, and you'll hear him like squeaking at night. This was years ago.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Is gonna drink my moscato in bed with his rat girlfriend.

[Amber Wallen]

No, literally just two rats smoking a cigarette with that moscato. I said, I have lost control of my life. And of course I called my, I remember calling my dad, being like, oh, dad, I've like moved into this. You know, your parents are never gonna help. I was like, dad, I have moved into this. Like, horrible. He's like, well, what you doing moving anyway? You ain't got no business moving.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why they always immediately blaming us? Can we get to a solution? It's always the first question, well, why you did this to get yourself in this situation? How is that helping me get out of this situation?

[Amber Wallen]

I said, well, people move. Is this a foreign concept? We've all moved at least once. So at that point, I was sleeping at Ben's house. Like, these were the early days of us dating. I was sleeping at his house. Like my husband has been, you know, like five nights out of a seven day week. Cause I didn't want to sleep in the, in the house of whores.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right.

[Amber Wallen]

But I was scammed.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You were. And so how did you get out of this scam? Was it just like at the four months mark, you were like, I have somewhere else to live. Or you were like, I'm gonna marry Ben real quick.

[Amber Wallen]

Right? This is when y' all marriage is critical to get out of hardship. I, at the time, I, you know what I started doing for real? I started going to yoga classes in my neighborhood and I just started feeling like, physically stronger and finding my own voice. And so one time I came back and I told that landlord, I was like, I'm leaving at the end of the month and if you try to like, stop me, like, I'm contacting my attorney. Because I've already been sending my attorney information about this situation. So you will hear from my attorney. Listen, I ain't got no attorney. No, I've never had attorney money, you know what I'm saying? But attorneys sound a little more fancy than loyal.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It does.

[Amber Wallen]

You see what I'm saying?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And it's even better if you don't ask for no information from them. Cause then they're like, oh, your attorney's powerful enough just to find it all their own. Oh yeah, I've done it. In the hospital, I had a nurse who refused to give me my medication. And I was like, can I have your name? And I was like, actually, nevermind, I know exactly what your shift is and I can just send that to my attorney. And so since you're denying me healthcare, go ahead and put that in writing. If you refuse to. My doctor already has, so. But yeah, we don't need to speak anymore. But I literally like flexed on her and was like, yeah, your name actually don't need it. I can find it like. And then all of a sudden she could get my medication. All of a sudden she could do it.

[Amber Wallen]

My doctor's let me go find them two pills.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We should all have a fake attorney. And you have to act like your fake ATT super powerful. Like, so powerful that you don't even ask for details. They're like, no, they'll find you, baby.

[Amber Wallen]

I love hitting them with like, well, you know what? I'm going to review that with the board. I ain't got no board. But let me say you hit somebody with like, well, I'm going to talk to the board and we're going to make a decision on that. There's no board and the team ain't even that large either.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But no, I mean, that's how like now, like, I, I talked to my accountant this week and that was our new strategy is like, People are asking me for money or something. I'm just like, let me review it with my business team. Yes, they said no.

[Amber Wallen]

Unfortunately, they voted. The council has voted, the congregation has voted and my hands are tied.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Amber Wallen]

That's me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Amber Wallen]

All.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Amber Wallen]

This is worse than mice and. And lovers in your bed. Oh, I'm. I'm set.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, well, these landlord scammers are owing, like, around $144 million. So. It says.

[Amber Wallen]

Hi, I'm sorry, I don't think I heard. You said million with an M. Yeah, with an M. USD.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like a million. Like, think Christina Million. Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

No, dip it low. Okay, I'm listening.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They brought the money up very slow. Apparently. Not at all.

[Amber Wallen]

I love when you pick up what

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm putting down here. So says, hi, Lacey and your amazing team. I think I have a really good one for you. I have. So let's just give this person a fake name. Whatever fake name you want to give them, Amber will protect their anonymity.

[Amber Wallen]

Let's go with Minnie, as in Minnie Mouse Minnie. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We're gonna keep strong themes today. So Minnie says I have to begin by saying how much I love your podcast. Oh, thank you, Minnie. And I've been wanting to submit the story for a while, but I was hesitant because I know the scammer personally. Oh, Minnie. We snitching on friends and family. I know. That's right, Minnie. So Minnie says, I went to middle school and high school with the woman involved. We were actually very good friends until our mid-20s. I could just never trust her. She was always very superficial and shallow, and she's absolutely so stunningly beautiful. But I am very glad we naturally dipped it apart. So I don't know why you couldn't trust her, Minnie, but it's giving like, she was a baddie, but she was also, like, out here running baddie schemes. She's like, I'm too pretty to get in trouble.

[Amber Wallen]

She said, stunningly beautiful.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Stunningly beautiful.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Since middle school. Ain't nobody beautiful in middle school.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, they usually fall off around high school or, like, you know, then they get pregnant and they have like, a Kaylee with extra, like. Like, H's in it or something.

[Amber Wallen]

Braiding and haling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And then they're reliving their life through their daughter on the cheer squad. Like, but she was. She was beautiful all this time. She was a bad bitch you could never kill. Also, like, Minnie, I'm gonna clock up to you here just for one second. Cause you was like, yeah, we drifted apart. But it sounded like you benefited from her stunningly beautifulness.

[Amber Wallen]

You got in the club.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You ain't paid for a drink in years.

[Amber Wallen]

Right, right, right. She taught you how to scam people out of them drinks. And one day you looked up being like, now, wait, I think I'm. I've been buying the drinks. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Minnie says, not too many years ago, I used to be jealous of my friends who were still close with this woman. Her name is Aruba. I'm saying her true name as later, I post a link to a news article that tells the TEA verified court details Et cetera. And full names involved. So not. You waited until this was verified by the feds. Now also, she a baddie named Aruba.

[Amber Wallen]

That's her real name. Ooh, Aruba. Can we get a picture of the stunningly beautiful mistress?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The stunningly beautiful Aruba.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, that's a baddie name.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's not even like a cheap destination, you know, she was named after some places. Aruba.

[Amber Wallen]

Expensive, a lot of charcoal there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Aruba used to fly, my friends. I knew it was gonna be some flew out situations in here.

[Amber Wallen]

All expenses is paid.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, so this is cute. She cute. She cute, she cute. And you know what? She looks like she got that skin that's real poreless. So like when you in person, like, the skin is just so smooth.

[Amber Wallen]

Mm. She got good eyebrows.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I mean, your skin that's smooth, you gotta do crime. Honestly, right now I'm on Aruba's side menu. We'll see.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm excited to hear about all these gentlemen next to Aruba.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ashley, Blaine, listen, Aruba was never lonely, okay? She was a baddie. So Aruba used to fly my friends on private jets to Miami, Las Vegas and California, paid for private parties at nightclubs with MMA fighters. Drake, of course. Drake. Drake is involved and even disgustingly partied with Trump after a UFC fight. So Trump. Yeah, her. Her baddiness, it didn't have no political affiliation. She said, you got money? I'mma be there.

[Amber Wallen]

Right, right. With my eyebrows. Okay, Minnie, I'm, I'm look we squinting at you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So like. Well, this is Minnie saying she was jealous because Aruba was flying all them out to do this. She didn't say she.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, she wasn't getting flew out. Okay, okay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I think she was in the beginning, but then they naturally drifted apart and then she wasn't get flew out no more. But she obviously still got. So she's seeing that the flying out is still happening, she's just not on board.

[Amber Wallen]

And it sounds to me like if she got the call to go see the fights and stuff, she would have been on the flight.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now this don't even look like Aruba. Is this Aruba Jazz? This is her, like a little bit younger. So this is Aruba younger, and now she's blonde. She also got one of those chameleon faces. Like, I don't think I'll be able to point Aruba out in a lineup. So she should definitely be doing crime because who is this Latina baddie?

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, she been changing her face.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She went from Kim K to Shakira. I don't even know her. So Minnie says she bought one of my friend's one year old daughter a brand new Balenciaga purse delivered with white glove service to the fricking baby's B day party. And my friend, who is the child's mother, felt embarrassed because Aruba didn't even show up to the party. It felt like she was rude and just showing off. So, I mean, she couldn't make it to the function, but she still got the baby a bag.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, that's kind of, that's some hater energy. Minnie, I ain't gonna hold you. She said, I can't make it, but I will send the white gloves. Sir. To give a one year old a Balenciaga bag, which is an auntie gift.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like you have children, you have to get practical things for your children, like the diapers or the. Or like food apparently is a big

[Amber Wallen]

thing or just a toilet won't drive me up the wall.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, a toilet ain't like. I know that now. I don't get loud toys, I don't get the little bang bang bang piano, piano nothing.

[Amber Wallen]

Like your child free friend buying a drum set. And you're like, do you hate me? Are you my biggest owl?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, but I am like the child free friend who's gonna go out and get the baby because it's like the baby's gonna grow out of the Gucci. But like I'm auntie who don't got no kids.

[Amber Wallen]

I love that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So I'm gonna make foolish purchases.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm all like, spoil the babies, like for sure. Just don't. If it's a fire truck that need 811 batteries, I'm like, oh yeah, you know they wanna open it right that second too. You're like, no, I have to set this up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, I haven't seen a D battery in years. I would never do that to you, Queen.

[Amber Wallen]

I would never aaa. I ain't never seen a AAA battery. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh hell, okay, that be the hardest one. Cause when you run out of a, of a AAA battery, you can probably find a AA somewhere in a remote that you don't use. But a aaa, you gotta go to the store.

[Amber Wallen]

Some little merry go round it need a aaa you like.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So please keep my name anonymous says Minnie Minnie. We folk paragraphs in Minnie. You should have said that earlier. But we did keep you anonymous.

[Amber Wallen]

We got you Minnie.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We got you Minnie you lucky. See, you must listen to the show so you know we got you covered. But you're a little late on that one. So it says, please keep my name anonymous. I don't want any drama with these people. But what I'm telling you is, is also in the local newspaper. So it's all come out. Aruba has always cared about her hair, her makeup, and how people view her. In high school, Aruba was fired from every job I knew her to have.

[Amber Wallen]

I mean, it's high school.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And also, like, she was a baddie. Like, her job was to be a baddie hire. You got personality hires, you got aesthetic hires. She not supposed to actually do employments.

[Amber Wallen]

She got fired from the pizza spot. Like, what's the big deal? It looked cute.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The business goes up 10 points when she's there. Cause we like this place. Must be good how they trap this baddie over here.

[Amber Wallen]

What's her high school resume looking like? Now, I'm not on Aruba's side, but do not judge me based on my high school job performance.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, no, listen. I've been. I have been fired from two positions. One was in college, and that was because I took the bus to go to work. And I kept coming in like seven minutes late. So they got me. They got you.

[Amber Wallen]

Now, what was that other one?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And that was at the Fairmont Hotel. The other one actually started my acting career. I was working at a restaurant on Rodeo. And even though it was in a nice area, it was owned privately. And so these people did not know how to run a business. Like, the cooks would be leaving to go do meth. Next thing I know, I gotta cook a creme brulee. Because this party is mad. Cause it's a birthday on a birthday. So I'm flambaying and they seating me tables. And then the rich people get mad at me and write a letter. They fire me. But nobody ever documented there that I was seven minutes late. So I got to file for unemployment.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, I love that. So the cook was in the alley? Yeah, he was cooking meth.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, Like a personal order. A short order of meth for himself.

[Amber Wallen]

Got. Yeah, just a small batch.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

And then you had to cook the creme brulee.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, wow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Which I don't know. No one should let me around fire. So when I got removed from that position, they had to run me unemployment. Cause they didn't have anything on record. So I got $12,000 and started my little active career.

[Amber Wallen]

You be talking down on people on unemployment, Then you get a check you like, I see why people stay on this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But unemployment is also a scam. Because how you taxing me from the unemployment that came from my taxes. And then unemployment likes to run this scam. This is just a tip for all of y' all out there who have ever had to be on unemployment, especially during these times. I know it's tough with the job market if you're on unemployment and you get off of unemployment. A hustle that unemployment likes to do is be like, oh, we overpaid you on unemployment, so you now need to run us money back. If you go to court physically present and fight it, typically you'll get away. Like, they'll. They'll be like, all right, well, we tried, you know, like.

[Amber Wallen]

But they do try it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They do try.

[Amber Wallen]

Well, see, I collected unemployment during the pandemic when everybody, you know, I was laid off. When everybody was laid off then. So maybe they didn't have time to process all those court cases and stuff. Yeah, but, baby, them Covid unemployment checks were like, triple what you made at your job. So you're like, oh, so we do we do this now?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. Yeah. So we do have money.

[Amber Wallen]

So we do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, our country's constantly telling us we don't have McDonald's money. They're always like, we broke. We broke. And then I turn around and they giving billions away to Argentina, where we get them billions at.

[Amber Wallen]

Where did we get those coins?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So back to our baddie and her firings.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, Manny.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Aruba's baddie. So Minnie is saying that Aruba got fired from Aldo's shoes because she was giving everyone her family discount.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm not mad at that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I'm not mad at that. She was a baddie who was also making sure that before y' all got on the PJ with her, that y' all had on at least a good dupe of a Jimmy choose from Aldo.

[Amber Wallen]

Now, Minnie.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause you know, Aldo is like a Steve Madden. It's like, whatever the popular shoe is, they making it for a more affordable cost for the girlies.

[Amber Wallen]

Now, Minnie, like to recap, she's stunningly gorgeous. She sends great presents to the kids. Birthday parties, baby getting balenciak. And she's giving family and friends discounts where she works. So Arupa's feeling like a giver.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She flying people out on the beach.

[Amber Wallen]

She's flying people out.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She's like.

[Amber Wallen]

And then she's giving her friends discounts. Okay?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

After that, she worked at a tanning salon, and she was fired there because she stole security camera equipment and tried to sell it on ebay.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay, now you got me. You got me there. Now that is indeed a crime. We've jumped the shard, but I definitely have given so many discounts.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Your family, we was with you. We was on your side, but not

[Amber Wallen]

with you when you. Right now.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why did you think that you were gonna leave up out of this establishment with they cameras

[Amber Wallen]

to walk into someone,

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

be like, somebody saw you unscrewing that out of the wall.

[Amber Wallen]

It is kind of funny to me like, that she stole from the one spot where there probably wasn't a security camera, which is where they watch all the security footage. She was like, well, they don't have a camera of me stealing in here. Like, that's kind of ironic.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause I'm thinking, like, don't you get in the nude for the tanning bed, right? I think legally you can't have cameras in certain places because of the nude.

[Amber Wallen]

So maybe she was actually trying to stop creepers looking at that footage.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She might have been a hero. What if they had some secret cameras up in the nude and she was like, one, this is inappropriate and wrong.

[Amber Wallen]

This is inappropriate.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And two, I'm gonna sell it on ebay. Wow, I'm back on her side.

[Amber Wallen]

She kind of convinced me there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Minnie, I know you listen to the show, so Minnie, I'm gonna. You're still my favorite. You're still my fave. Leave this a five star review. You're still my fave. But right now I'm just. Aruba don't seem so bad.

[Amber Wallen]

So bad. Not so bad.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So when she tried to sell it on ebay, the cops were the first and only bidders on ebay. Excellent for the stolen security equipment. And I just wanna say, guys, with the Internet, we've made it all too easy for cops. It's not like they were really. The crime solved rate is already like, what, like 40%? It's not like they were actually working really hard. Now y' all just getting on the Internet and being like, look at these crimes I did. Like, and subscribe for more crimes that I did. Yeah, you made this so easy for the cops.

[Amber Wallen]

Send that galaxy for that crime I just committed, y'.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

All.

[Amber Wallen]

You like, wait, what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I need to go fund me for my bail, y'. All. Like, I. I've seen people on Tik Tok reading out the charges that they have against them, but, like, also saying that they did the. And I'm like, you haven't gone to court yet, right?

[Amber Wallen]

You know, they can use this against you 100%.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Or just like all these rappers where they be like, hey, young thug, you did these crimes. You were part of this gang.

[Amber Wallen]

Slime and racketeering.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He was like, no, no, not at all. And they're like, play the track. And he's like, I'm in the sl all the crime game. It was me at the robbery. I definitely shot three yesterday.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, and it went all the way to the top.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, you've been caught in 4K. You shot it at the crime scene.

[Amber Wallen]

You did.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We ain't even clean up the blood. Cause we real thugs. Like, what are they?

[Amber Wallen]

And it isn't like. And you already put like the orange prison get up on. I'm like, now, now you sealed your fate now.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, you gave the vision. January 6th. Why was y' all taking selfies, bro?

[Amber Wallen]

Baby selfies. They had costumes, wardrobe, glam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They were like, can y' all tag her?

[Amber Wallen]

And happy to do it. And then trying to go back to your regular jobs, being like, her old mama. Yep.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Got her mama locked up. So Minnie says, Minnie, you are very thorough. I will take this receipts if you're gonna hate. This is how you hate, right?

[Amber Wallen]

Right. A professional hater.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you mean there are all of these links. I got photos of this woman. I really pulled into the.

[Amber Wallen]

So you turned her into the cops at Detain Salon. Got it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But Minnie, I'm impressed. I'm not familiar with your game, but I'm impressed with your game. I'm into it. So Minnie says, I will now post a to news articles all about their most recent and harmful scam. They massively screwed innocent people out of homes to live in and investments. It is still in court as I type this. And I can't find any updates on their newest trial, but I'm sure your team can do better research than I can. So she. Minnie has pulled up three links for us.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay, so now scammy the innocent. I'm not. I'm not going for that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And housing is a necessity.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And we talked about housing earlier with like, housing is such a necessity. You had to have the stranger menage of wine and ratatouille. Like, you had three roommates.

[Amber Wallen]

Literally.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You were like, well, it's free rent. So long story short, Aruba was a part of a group of landlords who owed investors $144 million and filed for bankruptcy protection. We are all from Ontario. And the Ontario Superior Court ordered Aruba and her husband, ex actor Robbie Clark, from the Zak 5.

[Amber Wallen]

Not the Zach files. Anybody see that?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I ain't know about them files.

[Amber Wallen]

He said, look, the show. The show did not get another season. I gotta find something to do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And two other landlords they were. They all had to relinquish control of their real estate empire following allegations of misusing investor funds. The issue is that these investments were meant for homes in struggling neighborhoods, not you going to the struggling neighborhoods. So now you're tricking the most vulnerable. Yeah, like, Amber, this is when you said you had two weeks to move.

[Amber Wallen]

Two weeks.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And the landlord giving you fake doorknobs.

[Amber Wallen]

That's exactly what they do. They're like, oh, you're desperate. Let me really twist the knife there. You're like, dang, I was already down.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And this is the scam that we don't approve of. Like, no scam up. Why are you scamming people who need housing who are obviously desperate for a human necessity? Oh, man. Minnie, I'm back on your side. Aruba, you ain't right for.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, you should have led with this, Minnie.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Minnie left with. Minnie led with her petty shit. Yeah, Minnie was like, this bitch.

[Amber Wallen]

Can you believe she got a Balenciaga bag? You're like, I can't.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And White Glove delivered it, interrupted the whole party, and she didn't even come. Oh, you too good to come to the party, but you want to tell us you was too rich, so you giving our baby a balency? Baby can't even walk. Got a balency.

[Amber Wallen]

And it's. It's always like this, too. It's like y' all are.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Are.

[Amber Wallen]

Y' all are scamming and then really flexing in a way that you could have. You could have actually just invested. Been quiet about it. The White Glove service was a tale of, like, something up with y'. All. Like, it's something going on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do, like the. The scamming rappers do. A lot of them start out in crime and gangs, selling crack rock. And then as soon as they got enough money to invest in their real career, they get out of the game.

[Amber Wallen]

Get out of the game.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And they pay one of their besties to go do a bed for them.

[Amber Wallen]

Get, like, limit some of that exposure, upward mobility. Because the minute you try to flex on these hoes, they gonna be like you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I want to look at her, man again for one second as which of the three through this. So this is her, man.

[Amber Wallen]

She got the scammer pose from the Zack Files.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Never heard of those files. But, you know, Canada has their own media.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The only thing that ever slipped out of Canada for us was the grassy. But now, the other thing you didn't have to tell me. Oh, as soon as I found out that that was Canada, I was like, yes, so apparently her husband's older brother. It's not in there. But her husband's older brother, when they were both younger and both actors, he was in Degrassi during the time of Drake.

[Amber Wallen]

This guy's brother.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So remember we said that our baddie Aruba had partied with Drake.

[Amber Wallen]

It was one show out of Ontario. Yeah, Jimmy. Oh, baby. Degrassi had me in a chokehold spinner. I loved Degrassi.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I had my thongs hiked up over my jeans like I was Manny. Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes.

[Amber Wallen]

I was Manny.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You couldn't tell me I wasn't Manny up in the high school.

[Amber Wallen]

That was the show. Manny was very cut.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Minnie says that I wish I had screenshots of what their Instagram pages used to look like before all of this came to light. It was full of photos with celebrities, athletes, private yachts, jets, parties, Balenciaga. Apparently they're very brand loyal. Everything in all kinds of.

[Amber Wallen]

Thank God they're brand loyal. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They have all since scrubbed their social media of mostly everything. And Minnie says, thank you so much, Lacey and your team. Love you. Please don't say my name if you use this story. Love, Minnie. Also, Minnie, why you putting your real name at the bottom again?

[Amber Wallen]

At the bottom. Wait, are there lockers?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Who could have never known your name? Babes, this is currently in litigation.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, it's in litigation. So they probably gonna get locked on

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

your Instagrams and like, when we do the listener letters, like, yes, I wanna be informed on scams. I also wanna be able to help people and give them advice on scams. I mean, in this situation. Minnie, I really appreciate the research you did. I love that you're trying to get a bad bitch off the streets, right?

[Amber Wallen]

One less. Actually, I don't clean up the streets.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I wanna know what the streets need to be outside.

[Amber Wallen]

I wanna know what team they hired to defend them. Cause that sometimes is very telling.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, if you down 144 million, you gotta. At least.

[Amber Wallen]

You gotta get.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You need a real lawyer. Not the fake ones that we bring up in our situations.

[Amber Wallen]

You need. Well, I love hearing, like, when you see a big trial publicized, I love hearing, like, you know, the last person this person repped was O.J. you were like, oh, oh, you did the crime, baby. Okay, so right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you need that good of a legal team.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah. They're like, this is Johnny Cockroach son. You like, oh, baby, they just repped Johnny Depp. And you're like, oh, oh, so you did. This is a banger. Banger.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So you did the crime.

[Amber Wallen]

You're not trying to do the crime you did. So we gotta find out what. Well, you know, this is Ontario tea, so it might be a little different from these American lawyers still wearing wigs

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

and little, and little, little, little cutesy outfits.

[Amber Wallen]

Now Canadian listeners. I didn't say that. I didn't say it because, you know, I might, I might need a tour date there one day. So y' all ain't gonna have no receipts. Y' all ain't gonna have no receipts to me. I, I, I love maple syrup.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Maple syrup. Okay.

[Amber Wallen]

You know what I'm saying? I want to know who got hired to do it because the, the, the lawyer and the legal team will tell me how, how guilty y'. All outlaw.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We will see.

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[Amber Wallen]

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[Amber Wallen]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Amber Wallen]

What is this, your first date? Oh, no. We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual together We're married. Me to a human, him to a bird.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league. Anyways.

[Amber Wallen]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Amber Wallen]

Not. Not the improv scene.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I know, I'm like, I'm a little too involved. There's articles online, you might catch me up in this.

[Amber Wallen]

Well, I'm also like, you know, I think we all know what we're getting into when we invest in the arts.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, sometimes it's a low, it's a little Ponzi esque, but it can work out.

[Amber Wallen]

It's whole business is being made off of. Oh, these people wanna be stars. Yes, yes. From the people to take the headshots to the teachers. So I'm very excited.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He talks about the headshot people all the time. You got a fake name for me?

[Amber Wallen]

Mm. Okay, we gonna stay on the mouse theme. So let's go with Chuck E. Cheese.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Chuck E. Cheese, which you know, there was one arrested for credit card fraud in the Chuck E. Cheese uniform. He tried to run away very Fast, funny, so. And also, like, how you gonna scar the kids like that? Like.

[Amber Wallen]

Like Charles E. Cheese in the Charles Entertainment. Cheese is in the parking lot and

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

they putting his head down to put him in the. In the damn police car.

[Amber Wallen]

But Chucky a rat. So that's that. Now there's a. There's like a mouse like d. And now if you a rat, one, one, lock up. Ain't too bad.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ain't too bad. Chucky back in the joint race like, ain't happen.

[Amber Wallen]

I'mma be out of here quick.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Chucky may bail. So good. So Chucky says, dear Lacey, I have a friend who was trying to get work as an actress back in the late 90s in New York City. She told me about a scam she came up with that has. She has since laid to rest. So I can freely tell the story without fucking up her bag. Okay. It's giving me, like, are you. Are you like a messier? Mm. It's giving like you have a fainting couch in your apartment in New York. Okay. You have a chaise lounge.

[Amber Wallen]

A chaise lounge.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cuz if you know a 90s actress who tells you Lore.

[Amber Wallen]

Right, right, right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a full hair in a chaise lounge. So Chucky says she was a part of an improv troupe, which is also a scam. Look, scam worked for me, so I can't. You know, sometimes it's a scam, sometimes it's not. Just depends on who you ask where you have to get 10 of your friends to buy tickets or else you don't get to perform that night.

[Amber Wallen]

We call these bringer shows. Oh, child.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And if you don't know what a bringer show is, go to New York City and start looking around too much. A bringer will appear.

[Amber Wallen]

Y.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's all you have to do. It's like saying Bloody Mary in the bathroom three times. Like, if you every 50ft. If you go to Times Square and you look at too many buildings at ey at eye level, a bringer will pop up and be like, you trying to go to a comedy show tonight?

[Amber Wallen]

Bring right down here. Yep, yep.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It just happens. So her career was going nowhere. Damn, says Chucky. That's why. That's why I said it was shady, Chucky.

[Amber Wallen]

Shady now east now. She was going nowhere and getting there fast. Damn. That's your friend.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

These first two that we've had are giving friend like it gives.

[Amber Wallen]

Y' all not friends with these people, I imagine. My friend said. And her career was going nowhere.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right.

[Amber Wallen]

Why can't it be like she was

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

building, she was struggling, she was aspiring. No, you.

[Amber Wallen]

She just baby that when it comes

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

to her career, her shit was at rock bottom anyway.

[Amber Wallen]

It's up there, Steve. What is? Nowhere. Oh, my God.

[Pharmaceutical Announcer]

That's what happens when you do with rats.

[Amber Wallen]

Rats.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. That's what happens when you deal with rats. So when she would, like, she would pay to audition for like a talent manager, which obviously is yet another scam that I've seen.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, I haven't. Okay. More. More on that later. Auditioning for a talent manager and paying to do so.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. I've typically seen it with like auditioning for commercial or any type of casting director where you pay like 40 bucks and they kind of like tell you some advice that will probably fuck your career up for years. Yeah. With no job prospects for. Yeah, but a manager is different. I haven't seen the paid manager audition. So this manager said that they would have to see her on stage. She thought she might have finally had a chance to break into the business. She invited the manager to her improv show. Even though she wasn't sure where she was going to find 10 people. She. Because remember, she got to bring 10 people and she hadn't already sold the tickets. So she's like, this is my big break. The manager's going to come watch me. I do need to go trick 10 people in times Square. But I got a big opportunity. I'm going to say that depending on how you look, this could be a scam or not. I have had agents be like, hey, we love your work. We also want to come see you at a show, of course. And then after that, I'm in some big shiny building and they're signing me, you know, so this is.

[Amber Wallen]

This is standard. But I don't know, coming to an improv show, that's a little risky.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, they've. They've definitely. That's where. That's where I got signed to CIA.

[Amber Wallen]

That's.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It was an improv troupe.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, it's an improv troupe that you're like, we rock together. Nobody here is gonna try to take the stage. Like, maybe I just been in the bottom of the barrel ass improv groups, but I would have. I would have invited somebody and then somebody would have got up there and tried to be in every scene. And I would have been like, I got. I gotta invite some. My next.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, you can't tell anybody that you done invited somebody.

[Amber Wallen]

No, no, no. You know that energy in the improv group. You know that white dude that be tagging you out of scenes. You're like, now this was the hair salon. This was the hair salon. Why are you tagging me out of this scene? What you gonna say? We are under hair dryers at the hair Sl.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I got, I'm under the hair dryer at the hair salon and I'm like, oh, my baby is kicking. I hope you're not pregnant.

[Amber Wallen]

No, no, we're, we're building here.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, we're building. They're like, you're not pregnant. Asian lady, get out of seat. What? They just labeled me three things.

[Amber Wallen]

Wow. Well, your, your, your improv team understood the assignment when your managers came. Cuz I, I would, I couldn't trust.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And also I ain't tell nobody they was coming.

[Amber Wallen]

I knew they smart, smart go in and cuz they would have been like, oh, I'm trying to decide.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause I didn't want to do too much. I wanted to do too much.

[Amber Wallen]

They wanted you too much.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just enough that y' all can see I'm good at my job. And then I'll be sitting back here supporting everybody else.

[Amber Wallen]

Can't show them too much, just a little titty.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Can't show them too much, just a little titty. Just like the top half.

[Amber Wallen]

Top half. Nothing too crazy. Because if I show you that whole nipple, you ain't gonna know how to act.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wilding out. You're not gonna know how to act. So our shady Shay slounge friend here,

[Amber Wallen]

Chucky, says that career going nowhere.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Their 90s homegirl finally got a big break. But she gotta get 10 people to the theater. So the manager there, who she paid to come, who she paid to come. So the idea came to her while she was looking at online dating websites. She stumbled across one called Yahoo Personals. Woo. Yahoo.

[Amber Wallen]

Okay, Throw it back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Which later became match.com. instead of looking for Love, she used the site to try to pack the improv theater with as many people as possible. She sent out a hundred messages to men her age range, asking them if they were interested in going on a date. 50 men replied yes. So she asked if they could come to her improv show and go for a drink afterwards. 40 of them said yes. The night of the 40 drinks, she was like, we're gonna have 40 drinks. And that's. These are the types of shots where you gotta be like, shot. Woo. And then just throw it over your shoulders. Yes, cuz. Ma', am, how are you gonna do this? The night of the show, all of these thirsty Internet men showed. And do you know how Thirsty for ladies sex. You have to be to go to an improv show.

[Amber Wallen]

40 40.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They was ready to go to the improv show of make em ups. Hey, can you give us a suggestion? And we all know most of improv.

[Amber Wallen]

Pencil sharpener.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Every now and then, you're gonna see something good, but for the most part, you're gonna see a struggle.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, one time, Lacey, I got on stage. I can't. I do stand up now because I don't in many improv scenes. One time I got up there. You know, also, sometimes you're the only black girl in the. I don't know if you know this, but you might be the only black woman up on stage. And one time. And so I feel like sometimes they suggest stuff because they think you don't know what it is. Now I'm good for not knowing what it is. And I was like. I was like, can we get a genre of music? And somebody was like, ska band. And I looked at the team like, what the hell is a sky band?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, fish.

[Amber Wallen]

Name one. Name one. I do now. But at the time, I was like, what is. I said. So I said, okay. I heard sky band and can I get a profession? Any profession? Somebody was like, blacksmith. And I. And I had a.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We working with the iron.

[Amber Wallen]

I hear you now. But I think I was so in my head, I literally started to sing. I was like, baby, I'm the blackest smith there is. I was like, I don't. I just.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You still worked with it. You still worked with.

[Amber Wallen]

I know Smith. Because the Smith. Smith is a very black name, you see. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And you were the blackest because I

[Amber Wallen]

was thinking like, there. You only said that because I was up here. I. I don't know. I don't.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What?

[Amber Wallen]

I don't know why getting blacksmith felt racially charged in that moment. I don't know. I. I know I'm making things up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't think you're making things up. I'm nervous because at an improv show, too, there's always that one person who suggests. You got the one horny person who's always suggesting a horny thing that we have to, like, ignore. Then you got a bunch of people suggesting food. Okay. I guess we work at a subway.

[Amber Wallen]

I would sooner do that than get up there and be like, okay, I'll be like, name one woman from history. Harriet Tubman.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You got up there. They were like, six.

[Amber Wallen]

This is Harriet Charlie Kirk. Right. They're just trying to mess with you. So I'm kind of like, you know, What? Let me do standup. I'll do stand up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So she done got 40 men to suffer through.

[Amber Wallen]

40. The blacksmith. The blackest smith that can be willing

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

to pay for a drink. So I'm guessing now that your friend is a big baddie. And because she. She done got these people offline in

[Amber Wallen]

real IRLs IRL to go to show from pictures and flirting alone.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just pictures and flirting alone.

[Amber Wallen]

Also she army of 40 men.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This is a lot of work to do to have this many conversations. I hope she was copy pasting a little bit.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm sure she was.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

A lot.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm telling you, the pictures speak for themselves.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This you got to start giving good morning text like hey, boo. Everybody got to be boo.

[Amber Wallen]

Cuz we can't name the name 40 Men.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The night of the show, they all show. My friend said she yes anded her heart out on that stage. Now this is also giving hater Chucky cause. What are you talking about? My friend say you ain't go to the improv show. You gotta. That's one of the things you gotta do when you love your friend is go to they bad improv shows. I've done it. You gotta do it.

[Amber Wallen]

So friends go to friends bad improv shows.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And we hoot and holler and we give good suggestions.

[Amber Wallen]

And then after the show, you be like, ooh, well, girl, the stage lights were on, right? You just say something.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You just say things that are true.

[Amber Wallen]

And you look like you having fun up there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Those jeans were so cute on you. And when you were walking, you were

[Amber Wallen]

really walking and serving. I said, hey, eyebrows.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? You made lots of expressions and you

[Amber Wallen]

made choices on that stage tonight.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

A lot of choices. Choices were made.

[Amber Wallen]

Choices were made.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I was here for that.

[Amber Wallen]

Cause I was present in the audience. Right? Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. We're not giving no insults. These are just. We're just stating facts. We're not gonna lie.

[Amber Wallen]

No notes. Yeah, just show up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Once the show was over, she nervously said hello to a few of the single men, telling each one she had to go talk to this talent manager and she would be fake smile on her face. She made her way out the back door and ran down the street, never looking back. The show was a success, with each romantic interest clapping for her wildly.

[Amber Wallen]

But sadly. Ooh, she ate that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The manager never showed.

[Amber Wallen]

You're lying to me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She set up this perfect situation. She got the thirstiest of men clap. Just clapping for. Make em ups. Bravo.

[Amber Wallen]

No one does a standing ovation at a improv show.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, no. They leave immediately.

[Amber Wallen]

Immediately. Halfway through the show, they don't want

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

the lights to come up so you can see how fast they're running out of the door. And. And. And why would they do this?

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, my gosh, she ate this. Except the manager didn't come.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And that's.

[Amber Wallen]

That's. Oh, I'm so mad for her. She put it in somewhere.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So when she told me this story, Chucky, I thought ill of her because I felt sorry for all those poor fellas who were hoping to meet their true love that night. But having been on dating sites recently and seen the amount of creeps out there, chances are incels and narcissists. So now I feel, like, good for her, right? Hope you enjoyed this mass romance scam with a New York City twist. Love your show. Anonymous listener, fan. Now, Minnie, that's how you say anonymous. You just say anonymous at the end, and you'll.

[Amber Wallen]

You don't give.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

One more reminder. But, Mindy, I still got your back, queen. Cause you still bestie. You're still bestie. You're giving them five stars, bestie.

[Amber Wallen]

Not feeling bad for the gentleman.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's how I know this is a man.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, you said. You called it. You said. This is the game.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes, A fabulous one.

[Amber Wallen]

A fabulous one.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

As we know who keeps beautiful friends.

[Amber Wallen]

But you did not have friends.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I have as an actress, of course. So many.

[Amber Wallen]

So many.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And they're like, she's crazy, but we love her.

[Amber Wallen]

And they damn sure wouldn't say, what about the poor men that showed up for you?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Hell no.

[Amber Wallen]

What are you new here?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But also, this is the 90s. Online dating was new.

[Amber Wallen]

Gotcha.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this isn't like swiping now, where everyone's like, oh, you're 200ft from my house. I'll swipe on you. Or like, a lot of guys go on dating apps and just swipe right on every single single woman to upcoming stats. Yeah, just like any woman, any hole. But so I understand he was like, for a second, like, maybe somebody in there was actually excited to meet this lady and was willing to suffer through her improv show. But then he was like, actually him, right?

[Amber Wallen]

What? What? I guess we'll never know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I guess we'll never know.

[Amber Wallen]

One of the 40 were probably a quality guy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yep. The next one we have here. I need a fake name for this person. They have titled their letter My reverse

[Amber Wallen]

Scam on mouse theme. We'll go with Remy. Remy from Ratatouille.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

From Ratatouille. So hopefully you can cook, Remy.

[Amber Wallen]

Mm.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Remy says hello. I'm New to your podcast and I love it. We love new people. Yes. You all have so much fun. We do, Remy. Welcome to the fun. You having a good time right now, Remy? We hope that for you. Tell a friend, have your baby listen to it in another room. Get the streams up. Apple podcast, five stars. Come to the live shows, baby.

[Amber Wallen]

Friends, enemies, get everybody on the horn.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Enemies as well. Okay. Because as we see like we had an enemy up here with Minnie and Minnie gave us a very thorough breakdown because clearly Aruba was her enemy. And an enemy can write a story better than anybody else.

[Amber Wallen]

Any.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh yeah, I love an enemy story.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, I, I, you ever be like I write my best jokes when I'm just mad as hell? Yeah. Like, I mean pen be sharp those days and you can't even sharpen a pen right. Right. I got a few things to get off my chest.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You know when it's real sharp, when you flip the page over and you see the indentation of the words you wrote on the first page, that's how you know you, you really cooking. So Remy says hello, I'm new to your podcast. Right. Remy said, I wanted to share with you a recent attempted scam on me, which I have had a hard time stopping them from calling my phone. A few months back I started getting multiple calls a day from my phone company wanting to loan me money. So she was getting multiple calls a day on her phone for a company that wanted to loan her money. I've also gotten these calls and a lot of voicemails that I've had to block. Sometimes they'll try to mimic your area code so that you'll pick up even though it's an unfair because you might think it's someone from your hometown that maybe switched phones or things like that.

[Amber Wallen]

And they say, we want to give you some money to loan from us.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, we got money for you. So at the time I was working for $19 per hour. So I have no idea if this triggered these people to start calling. But blocking and deleting numbers didn't stop them. That's why I said because they'll keep going. They just cloned the number. Then I got fired and you needed

[Amber Wallen]

that loan and you was waiting by the phone.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So now the desperate you done got fired. Everybody was getting fired. And I understand. So she said, then the calls continued to come non stop. How they know you got fired?

[Amber Wallen]

They watching the house. They said she ain't leaving for work no more.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, she used to get, she was outta here by 8:30 and now and now, that car parked, and I looked through the window. She been watching Young and the Restless. That's unemployed behavior.

[Amber Wallen]

God, she's going through pints of ice cream. She's been laid up to the grocery store.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Did y' all see her bring. She had a 12 pack. Yeah, we got to keep calling her. So the calls continued to come nonstop. I called them and cussed them out, telling them to stop calling me. The calls kept coming. I was really angry after I got fired. We were just talking about anger. Sometimes you can use it. So I was bound and determined to find a way to stop the calls. I had some time on my hands. Cause of the unemployment. Unjobbing. The unjobbing, unjobbing. She got unjobs. So she had some free time. And she said this all happened during the government shutdown. So the do not call registry was not an option because the government has shut down. Which, you know, it likes to do that a lot these days.

[Amber Wallen]

Dang, Remy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Which is why, please pray for the TSA agents, because when the DHS shuts down, TSA shuts down. And if you thought they was angry before, they not getting checks right now. Okay.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So I let them. I let them touch my hair. Now I'm like, you need to.

[Amber Wallen]

I'll take a pat down now.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You get the pat down then, bro. Broham. We can do it. No, Stick my arms out. And God bless you. And God bless you. Y' all want my shoes off? Socks too. Raw toe. I'll give y' all whatever y' all want because I know you going through it right now. Okay. Oh, my gosh.

[Amber Wallen]

That's horrible.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I know. So Remy says my first tactic was to use something I encountered while working in the wireless tech support space. When the agent came on the line, I went to the bathroom and flushed the. The toilet. I don't know what.

[Amber Wallen]

What hack is that?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That is off putting, right? I.

[Amber Wallen]

Does it mess up their. The. The sound on the other end? If they. All they hear is like, yeah, I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Or maybe they're just like, oh, this person must be using the bathroom. I feel like mid using the bathroom would be more off put. I be like, yeah, yeah, just a big one.

[Amber Wallen]

I would queue up some, like, bubble gut sounds on YouTube. Be like, this will get them.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I need to drink more f.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why is it green?

[Amber Wallen]

Like, I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, I think that would be more disturbing.

[Amber Wallen]

Just like, glasses breaking in the back. Like, hello. Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So the calls kept coming right at the flush. Didn't Work. Also, like, if you flush it, you're basically saying, you done with whatever you did. So now you ready to go, right?

[Amber Wallen]

Ready to right? They're like, oh, we could pause while you're. Okay, she's flush. We've heard the hand washing. Now we're ready for our loan pitch. This is not. How did your number get on this call list?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They sold all of our information, and they told us it was data breaches.

[Amber Wallen]

I sound like my daddy now. What you getting called for?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, yeah, you baby. Your dad like, what you getting called? Why they calling you?

[Amber Wallen]

Why they calling?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why do you want to be called? It's like, can I not be the first line of defense? Can we not victim blame him?

[Amber Wallen]

Yes, yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But parents love to do that. I call them with a problem, and they're like, let's look at you.

[Amber Wallen]

My mama be like, why were you there? Don't call my mama with a microaggression or a slight thing that happened. She's like, microaggression. They used to burn crosses in our yards, Amber. I'm just like, okay, this is why I can't call you and tell you about.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No. Because they stories be crazy.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, somebody tried to touch my hair. Oh, oh, is that all? We used to sit in separate seats in the cafeteria. Amber.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm like, elderly white parents be like, I had to walk four miles to school in the snow barefoot. Older black parents be like, I had to walk 17 miles to school in the snow barefoot, with the clan calling me the N word.

[Amber Wallen]

And there was a hose. They used to spray us with hoses, Amber.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm like, you're saying some white lady called you angry on a zoom, right?

[Amber Wallen]

And you were in your home.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Did she burn across? Did she turn a pillowcase into a hat with eye holes?

[Amber Wallen]

Anything you like, Mom. I just thought my boyfriend was cheating on me. Well, back in my day, we had to hire a private investigator. Your grandfather had four families, and we

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

had to fight them at the funeral,

[Amber Wallen]

and your grandmother just took it each time.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And at the funeral, we lost one of the guns, and then we had to look for it in the cemetery. That actually pulls for a real thing that happened in my life.

[Amber Wallen]

Well, yeah, Mama ate that. If they was at the cemetery, I'm

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

never gonna say who, but. Yeah, you know, so back to. So they tried flush method.

[Amber Wallen]

Flush method didn't work to get rid of aggressively flushing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So Remy says, my next move was to call and pretend that I didn't speak English. So now calls are continuing.

[Amber Wallen]

No English. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now you calling Back and you. No, I blah. No, I blah.

[Amber Wallen]

Remy, at some point you're having fun. You're a little bored. You're bored and unemployed. So you're trying some new acting tactics

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

and I love this for you. So the calls kept coming, even after the me. No, no. The phone keeps ringing and they were saying, oh, we.

[Amber Wallen]

Right, oh, we're bilingual here.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We're bilingual.

[Amber Wallen]

We. We got somebody to talk to. You dang.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We speak money in every language.

[Amber Wallen]

Every language.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, a white soul organize that. Mean check please in Japanese. Let's keep going. We just need the money, dude.

[Amber Wallen]

We. Lacy just casually flexed that. She knows how to say check please in Japanese. They were taking too long with the check. Lacey, I can see you looking at that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Our sushi chefs, like, they mostly spoke Japanese, so we had to know some transactional things to get, of course. But the calls kept coming, kept coming. So Remy says, I went to a local shop here that sells N novelties and I got a fart machine.

[Amber Wallen]

Remy, Remy, you doing everything but turning these people off.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This is your new job, Remy. Why we like this? My new employment.

[Amber Wallen]

Just with these people, Remy, they can't smell it. It's not a spray that would sit there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Remember, you don't know how to do the hand thing where they get the

[Amber Wallen]

hand on clean or like hand under the armpit.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Under the armpit. That was. That was something that unemployed.

[Amber Wallen]

What you doing buying a fart machine?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You can't afford a fart right now. You can't afford a fart machine in this economy. But thank you for keeping the fart machine businessy like those businesses in, you know, because I support local businesses. Support local businesses. They did say it was local. And also novelties. In a poor financial economy like those, nobody's getting a whoopee cushion when times are hard.

[Amber Wallen]

A rubber chicken. She said, oh, this. They won't know what to do with this. Like the hand buzzer. You're like, remy, is this the best use of our time right now?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Honestly? You're supporting local businesses, Remy, I'm on your side. So when the agent would pick up, I would put. Put my phone on speaker and start hitting the button on my fart machine. This resulted in my call being blocked. When I called back for a while, it also took the calls down to once a day. But once a day, usually in the evening, they kept calling. Now, Remy, I also want to say I'm going to clock your age here a little bit because you went to a local business to buy a fart machine when you could have just got on your computer and YouTubed fart sounds, and then that would have been free and at Free Farts. And she said she wanted to sound authentic, but you supported local businesses. So everyone get out there, buy those fart machines and support your local businesses. So to wrap this up, Remy says, so my last move on this, to

[Amber Wallen]

cancel the one call a day.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, now she's down. They're down to one day.

[Amber Wallen]

We're down to one call a day.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But because the calls are decreasing, when the agent would answer the phone, I said, dude, where's my shit?

[Amber Wallen]

Okay, Something new. And you know what? You didn't spend money to say, dude, where's my shit? You didn't. So I appreciate. I appreciate you for that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Crickets. That's what Remy heard. Silence. And then the person would say, excuse me. To which I responded, I got your money. Where's my shit? Silence. And then, lady, you have the wrong number. Have a good night. I think it's working. The calls are only coming every few days now. Just wanted to share so you can all have a good. Thank you, Remy.

[Amber Wallen]

This is like the. You know, like the scenes at Home Alone where he's, like, putting a movie on every single time the robbers come.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, Remy, I. I appreciate your dedication to the bit. And also, I'm starting to see now that I think she went to the novelty store because she. She's unjobbed at the moment.

[Amber Wallen]

And that gave her three politically correct here at St. The unjobbed, the unhoused.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The unjobs. The unbattied.

[Amber Wallen]

The unbattied.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You know, we had Aruba. She was a baddie. Minnie, I hope you're a baddie, too. I think you were. I think you just. You got off the train a little too soon, and all the other baddies are on the private jets.

[Amber Wallen]

I find myself unbalenciaga'd at the time right now, but I'm getting there. But that could change. I'll be Balenciaga one day. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So next we're going. I need another fake name for this person.

[Amber Wallen]

Ooh, who's another baddie rat out there?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, we did Mickey.

[Amber Wallen]

Mickey. We didn't do Mickey yet. Let's go with Mickey.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Let's go with Mickey. So Mickey says, my identity was used by a stranger inside and outside of jail.

[Amber Wallen]

Now, you ate when I'm in the pen, but when I'm out, uh, I want my name back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now, I don't know if the stranger was using it inside and then got free and was using it outside, we don't know yet. Or if you were in the jail and then in the. Cause, like, yeah, if you in jail, we should all be able to do identity fraud with you.

[Amber Wallen]

Right? Right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause, like, you in jail, you might

[Amber Wallen]

have did something bad. This somebody getting their lick back, they get to use your Social Security number.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

There's certain crimes that I just feel like get way too long with jail time. If you're not physically harming people, if you're scamming up. Like, some of these sentences just don't match up the math. Don't be mathing for greater crimes. It all really kind of just depends socioeconomically what you have going on. And they want recidivism because private prisons want heads and beds. So they want you to come. Come back to jail.

[Amber Wallen]

Of course.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like when you leave jail, they be like, see you soon. I'm like, don't say that.

[Amber Wallen]

That's what the. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

See you later.

[Amber Wallen]

Have a great summer. Signing that yearbook. We gonna see you back next semester.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. No, we should want people who have been incarcerated to maybe get a chance

[Amber Wallen]

transition back into society.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And they get back into society, not come back.

[Amber Wallen]

Right. They say, we gonna put this ankle brace on you, and if you walk to your kitchen, we coming to get you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We come in to get you. And you gotta go check in with these people all the time. Don't miss it.

[Amber Wallen]

And don't miss a call. Make sure your phone is charged. Don't. Don't take a nap.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this person, Mickey says, I have a scam identity theft story that still makes me say there's no way this is real. And I think it would be great fit for the show. Okay, we got a pitch here. So Mickey says, after a car break in, my driver's license was stolen. Months later, I discovered through USPS informed delivery that there was a scanned letter from a local jail addressed to me saying my boyfriend, in quotes, was being transferred to prison and that I needed to come pick up his belongings. I did not have a boyfriend in jail. Okay, so what in the love after or during lockup is going on?

[Amber Wallen]

My boyfriend is in prison, not jail. Okay, so this can't be my man.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I think I would know if mbuki was in the cling. I think I would know my boyfriend

[Amber Wallen]

wasn't in jail that week.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So it said, I did not know this person. Mickey said, I don't know this person. The letter itself never arrived because the apartment number was intentionally left off. But the scan showed me something I was never meant to see.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, my favorite things to see.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I self led an investigation. That's cuntsy.

[Amber Wallen]

Very.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That just means you being nosy. I self lead investigations all the time.

[Amber Wallen]

A sophisticated way of saying that's called

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

a babish going through her man phone. I self led an investigation while he was in the shower through his phone.

[Amber Wallen]

We call that instincts, dear. And I love that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

For her, no, it was just a self led investigation. Self led, you know, where myself was at the helm.

[Amber Wallen]

You know, I self led myself to the somebody else's lunch in the workroom. That's what I did.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So I self led this investigation where I realized an incarcerated stranger had used my stolen icon while being booked, listed me as his girlfriend, and triggered multiple accounts tied to my identity. Across jail systems and beyond. Law enforcement help was minimal. So at 25 years old, I became my own detective. I began documenting evidence and eventually forcing the situation open through legal action. Okay, Mickey. It's giving unjobbed as well. How did you have so much time?

[Amber Wallen]

Now he wrote you down as his emergency just in case. I said what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She wrote me down for every jailhouse. He done gone to school.

[Amber Wallen]

House.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

House. He done wrote your name down.

[Amber Wallen]

Baby, you and me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's bae.

[Amber Wallen]

We gotta see each other again. That's bae.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Is this romantic? Nancy Meyers chime in. Is this a new movie? I don't.

[Amber Wallen]

What would be the benefit of revealing whose car you broke into? Like, why would you. You already stole from me. Why are you letting me know where you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right.

[Amber Wallen]

That's dangerous. Unless you wanted me to find you. Yeah, maybe this is a love connection.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? Cause, I mean, we don't know what she looked like in her ID photos.

[Amber Wallen]

I was flirting with her.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Aruba.

[Amber Wallen]

I broke into your car to flirt with you, girl.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You're like, he's looking good. Okay, y' all think he was trying to scapegoat her or be like, oh, it was her. It was her, not me, or anything like that. I mean, there also could be something nefarious justice brought up that point of like, maybe he was writing her name down so much, trying to set her up and be like, it wasn't me. It was my girlfriend. Let me out of the. But just to.

[Amber Wallen]

But just to lead that trail that I'm the one who stole from you, and I'm gonna keep using your name.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's kind of crazy, but across multiple jail systems and you have to think about how lazy law enforcement is, and again, how thirsty they are for criminals to be in them beds. Okay.

[Amber Wallen]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Orange is the new Black was an inspirational piece for private prison owners. They were like, wow, we could get even more women.

[Amber Wallen]

They gave them ideas.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We need to get more women in jail.

[Amber Wallen]

More. Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why didn't nobody?

[Amber Wallen]

Here are new inventive waves to lock them up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We could have got them in jail over a man. Half of the oranges knew black stories when they were, like, reflecting. I did stop watching after they did that Eric Gardner murder with Pousay. I just thought that was too far, and I stopped watching. But before that, all of the background stories basically all boiled down to, I'm in jail because of a man.

[Amber Wallen]

Because of. No, literally.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They were like, I took a charge for this man, this man. All the weight at the house, and I was at the house. And now that's true.

[Amber Wallen]

Anytime you watch, like, women who Kill or something like that, every woman's like, well, he was choking me. I had to stab him 58 times. And you're like, I hear you, queen. Like, every episode, I'm on the woman's side, but it's psycho to me when people kind of return back to the scene of the crime or leave that

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

trail or go to the funeral. Like, why are you trying to see?

[Amber Wallen]

Like, you like it? This is thrilling for you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, you sitting in the funeral in the back, like, he, he, he.

[Amber Wallen]

That was me. You see the body out there? I did that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I did that.

[Amber Wallen]

Like, wait, why are you here?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why are you in here, sir?

[Amber Wallen]

This must be her cousin or something. Why would he write her down?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I think that just by attaching her name to several different pr. Like, when you think about the prison industrial complex, like, and the due diligence that they do, if your name is popping up in a system, these people might just be like, well, your name's in the system, so I guess we're gonna come get your ass. You know what I mean? Like, without any technicality, without even looking into it, because why would they?

[Amber Wallen]

Why would they.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That doesn't benefit them. They need another slave in the prison.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So I'm a little confused.

[Amber Wallen]

You right? Let's see. We gotta keep our thinking caps on, y'. All. I feel like that, like, bro, podcast. Deep. Deep.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So the result was a binding settlement requiring full deletion of accounts, return of Mickey's driver's license, and a permanent no contact order. But the journey from there was surreal and exhausting and, honestly, wild. This is Mickey's words. Mickey says, this story isn't just about identity theft. It's about how scammers exploit the gaps between systems. Yeah, how something as simple as USPS Informed delivery can crack a case open and how a regular person ends up doing the investigative work themselves. Correct. Cause they gotta be doing self led investigation.

[Amber Wallen]

Self.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ooh, a new term.

[Amber Wallen]

My career is self led.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Self led.

[Amber Wallen]

You're unemployed. No, but I'm not self employed. I'm self led at the moment.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I lead myself two places, you feel me? I get a whoopee cushion for the fart sounds and it's self led. You get me?

[Amber Wallen]

Some man is listening to this show right there. They're like, I'm gonna set it on my date tonight. When she asks what do I do for work. Well, you know, I'm kind of self led right now. From this job to that job. But it is a self led journey.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't believe in bosses. You know what I mean? I'm an independent thinker. I'm in a self led profession.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm leading myself. Who else would be leading you? A mom led? Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't worry about that. You're asking too many questions. Just know.

[Amber Wallen]

Just know. All leads have been taken by me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, okay. And this person also said, Mickey said, I'd love to share the story with your audience if you think it fits. Thank you for the laughs and the scam education that you bring every curious like Mickey. Are you one job while you were doing all this self led law enforcement and then you're also bringing up USPS Informed Delivery and saying that they can crack a case open. Now what I do, you work for the USPS Informed Delivery because this is a great advertisement for them. And I'm actually going to agree with you because y' all don't understand. I say this all the time on this podcast. If y' all don't remember, the last thing you want to see is that truck pull up without them doors. Because if they get you on mail, fried baby, you're going to prison.

[Amber Wallen]

Prison.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. They pick you up, they ain't got no doors or no ac. They throwing you in the back.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm taking notes now. No doors, no ac. I'm getting thrown.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm just. I need to know, is this an ad? Usps.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm worried though. Wait, this is making me think. So of course this has only happened to me one time, but one time I was in Thailand and my passport got stolen. Oh, I know, I know. But I was also thinking like, this ain't be gonna. This is like a black girl. It's a US passport, but it's a black Girl like, who, who, who would be. But so is, Is something going to happen?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

How long Thailand be tan? They be tan, but out in the sun.

[Amber Wallen]

But they would have to do their big one with me because I was like, very. You know, I had locks in my hair. Like, you gotta get real, like, it. It wouldn't just be a tan. It would be, you know, tan, full lips. You gotta put locks in. You gotta really work to look how I look. Am I going to be connected to somebody in a jail in Thailand one day? Potentially. How far now this happened about 10 years ago. How far can this passport have gone?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Did you say one movie about the Thailand prison? No, with the white ladies.

[Amber Wallen]

Uh.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, y' all know this movie. It's an iconic one where it was like, there was two party white girls and one, she was the Amber of the. Or the Aruba of the group.

[Amber Wallen]

I was a stupid Amber in a

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

group that had them smuggling drugs and Breakdown Palace. It's called Breakdown Palace.

[Amber Wallen]

Is that it? I said, I know Amanda Knox.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. You don't gotta worry about nobody contacting you from Thailand and got your passport. Cause them prisons is. They're, they're, those are disappearing places.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

At least that's what they told me in Broke Down Palace. And I was like, well, I'm never gonna break the law in airport.

[Amber Wallen]

Oh, that's heartbreaking. I hate that. Now I have to be like, okay, well, thank God for me. But I have no sex with my.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Would you get your passport back or did you get another?

[Amber Wallen]

I went to the US Embassy, got another passport, and now I. A brand new passport. But I remember for at least a couple months after, I was like, dang, what's going to happen? Like, was this sold on the black market in Thailand? What happens now? Yeah, but I got outta the country, so, you know, I'm back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's all that matters.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm back. I'm back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But with that information, like, yeah, this person stole the driver's license and then signed them up for every prison registry out there to be like, yeah, this my girlfriend. Oh, if y' all need to. If I have an emergency, hit up my boo thing, she need to put some money in my books for my phone calls. Like, why?

[Amber Wallen]

Maybe he wanted to apologize. Maybe he was like, I hope she reaches out to me so I could tell her that I shouldn't have stole from you and I shouldn't be here. I should have just kept walking.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's right.

[Amber Wallen]

I should have stole from the next car.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's the right, like, way to look at this. Like he was just trying to contact her to apologize the entire time. Mean it.

[Amber Wallen]

Boo. I'm guilty, though. So do you think. Do you think if you committed a crime against somebody later, you would be like, let me try to contact them to apologize? If you scammed up, would you. If you scammed up, up and got caught, would you one day try to be like, I'm sorry.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm so scared after I got caught? Because I'm not admitting gift. Right.

[Amber Wallen]

If you. You got it. You scammed up because you wouldn't scam down. No, you. You're classy. You scammed up. You got caught. Would you try to reconcile with the family and be like, I'm. I was tripping. Like, this was the. No, no. You said, I did what I did.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We're all on an equal playing field. This is just a part of life.

[Amber Wallen]

I'm incarcerated now. So, yeah, I don't have to apologize.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You went. You lose some.

[Amber Wallen]

I feel like I can win them back, though. I'm charismatic.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You trying to get back in they household.

[Amber Wallen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'mma be like, hey, if you just invite me over for dinner.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But wasn't I.

[Amber Wallen]

Let's let by guys be a great

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

nanny Before I stole the 200k, like,

[Amber Wallen]

I was nanny now. I got you. I did get you. But them kids asking about me, don't they.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, they want Ms. Amber back. And I could be.

[Amber Wallen]

That's like the only thing I did, though. You know what I'm saying? So.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Only thing I did was still look a little 200k. A little 200k.

[Amber Wallen]

And that was. I mean, that's a drop in the bucket for y'. All. Y' all didn't even really miss it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Y' all ain't even.

[Amber Wallen]

Y' all didn't miss it. I got caught. Now that's just a funny story of our relationship. I'm sorry.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm laugh about.

[Amber Wallen]

This is gonna be a great chapter for your book. Like, what are you saying? We get along now?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I made you more interesting.

[Amber Wallen]

I feel like they would go for that big facts.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And to that, we are going to wrap up the show. Thank you, Amber, for being here. This was such a fun episode. Congregation. Well, first of all, we wanna ask you, Amber, where would you like to be found? Anything that you would love to prom?

[Amber Wallen]

Thank you so much for having me, Lacey. My only regret is I didn't bring my Scam Goddess book because you know, I have it. I need you to sign it the next time I see you. I'm Going to bring the book so you can sign it. You can find me at Burriam on Instagram. That's B u R R I a

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

m very fun time currently.

[Amber Wallen]

Yes. If you just want to laugh at someone else's pain and suffering, find your way to my page. And also I'm on a stand up comedy tour right now, so I got some great shows coming up at a city near you. So just check out my page for all of those updates. And please, if you get a chance, listen to Quit playing with Jasmine and Amber. And we are both comedians, we're moms. We are hooting and hollering as well. So find your way to that podcast right after you listen to your favorite podcast, Scam Goddess.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes, right after you read your scams.

[Amber Wallen]

Thank you. I love your book. Yes, thank you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And yes, you can get my book anywhere books are sold or the audiobook. And y', all, I'm on tour right now too. So get on Ticketmaster, Scam Goddess and get these tickets before they're gone because Ticketmaster is running this show, y'. All. Y' all can't DM me like past live shows and I'll be like, oh God, tickets. I said, but me now y' all just get these tickets on time so so we can all be there and turn up. We've got got a great show planned for you. You can watch going Dutch Thursdays, 9:30 Eastern on Fox. If you want to watch me scamming as a military supply sergeant whose last name is literally Conway, leave those Apple reviews. We really appreciate them. Whatever app you listen to this on, leaving a five star review is great for us. And that's your bit of activism for the day. And you can feel really good about helping a black woman. So go ahead and do that too. And if you want to see the photos from our, our very petty and beautiful listeners who wrote in and thank you all for your letters, scamgodespodgmail.com you can all write in on your friends and family and if you wanna see the photos, Scam Goddess pod. And thank you so much for writing in. We love it every single time. And congregation, I want you to get out there and I want you to self say it with me, Amber. Self lead, self lead your investigation.

[Amber Wallen]

I was like, wait, that's what we supposed to say, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. Self, self lead your investigations. You are your own self leader of your investigations. Okay? And if you are unjobbed, make use of that. Like all of our workers have support, local support local fart machines. We're out Scam Goddess Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle.

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