
We hope you like spaghetti, CONgregation, because today we're joined by Grant & Ash (A Twink and a Redhead), to dig into this week's scampilation. The squad discusses the scam of Spencer Pratt running for LA mayor, a Georgia mayor who fired the entire police force for petty reasons, the CEO of United Airlines flying American, Dua Lipa versus Samsung, and a thief who returned Lego sets filled with pasta. Plus, Laci asks: Are towing companies, TV subscriptions, and celebrity skincare a scam, a scheme, or the real thing? Stay schemin’! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at ScamGoddessPod@gmail.com. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Grant & Ash: @a_twink_and_a_redhead Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/small-town-georgia-mayor-resigns-weeks-after-firing-entire-police-department/ https://newschannel9.com/news/local/cohutta-mayor-sends-resignation-letter-to-council-...
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Ashley (Ash)
Scam,
Lacey Mosley
robbery and fraud. Scam Cause Robbery and fraud. What's poppin? Congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, the host of the comedy podcast all about robbery fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We laugh at them, but not the victims. Now you all, where y' all at? How y' all doing in the summertime? Y' all staying cool? Y' all already know? I'm what? Excited, Elated, Thrilled. We have two guests for you today. Okay, Period. You've seen them all over TikTok and have heard their satirical music and content everywhere. Name a more iconic duo, period. Famous for parodying delusional couple dynamics, Disney adults and releasing suggestive comedy pop songs. You can catch these two childhood besties touring beginning this month until November in a city near you. Congregation, please welcome first time choir members Grant and Ash, AKA a twink and a redhead to the show today. Hey, man.
Grant Gibbs
Hey, Lacey. It's an honor to be here. Like, for real.
Ashley (Ash)
Such a honor.
Grant Gibbs
I am a big member of the congregation. Longtime listener. Me, my sister. Every time we have a drive. Scam goddesses on scam Scam guns.
Ashley (Ash)
There.
Grant Gibbs
That song hit you.
Lacey Mosley
Oh, my gosh. We've been needing some new choir members. Grant, I feel like you're going to direct the choir because I'm a missionary Baptist and I always have gone to churches that had great praise and worship and it was because the gay man was leading the choir.
Grant Gibbs
I'm happy to do that. Happy to do that.
Lacey Mosley
That's what we need music was on point, Period. Period. I'm so glad. Excited to have both today. I have some questions for you that I need your opinions on.
Grant Gibbs
Absolutely.
Lacey Mosley
We start this podcast by asking our guests, is something a scam, a scheme, or a real thing? So a scam is absolutely something that shouldn't be happening. It is a ripoff. It's bad for society. A scheme feels like a scam, but it's somewhat legitimate. And then a real thing is something that we believe should exist no matter how scammy it feels. So the first question that I have for you both Ashley and Grant, is towing. Is it a scam? Is it a scheme, or is it a real thing?
Grant Gibbs
Ooh, towing.
Ashley (Ash)
I think it's a scheme because I think there's some instances where you're caught, like, you're parked where you shouldn't be and you're blocking someone in. You know what I mean?
Lacey Mosley
Yeah.
Ashley (Ash)
But then they are charging so much money for your car to sit in. A lot.
Lacey Mosley
Sometimes $40 a day in LA.
Ashley (Ash)
It's ridiculous. My car's been towed before. It was overnight, and I had to withdraw, like, $300 cash to this man and his Yorkie at the Sketchy Tow station in Columbia, South Carolina. So it felt like a scheme.
Grant Gibbs
It does give scheme. But I also am kind of like, wait, if I owned, like, a towing company, kind of like, get your. Yeah, like, I might want to get involved with that. Like, because there could be reasons, like you were saying, Ash, like, if someone's blocking my driveway or something, it needs to get towed. But, yeah, once I have your car, my rules. You know what I mean?
Lacey Mosley
So Grant is fully a car kidnapper. He's like, yeah, kidnap the cars and hold them for ransom.
Ashley (Ash)
Grant, it's a crazy position to side with the tow trucks, but are you serious? It's a crazy position to be on the side.
Grant Gibbs
I don't own a car currently. I haven't had a car in years,
Lacey Mosley
being they're both in Brooklyn.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, that's. Yeah, that is important to know. I've never been towed either. I never had to deal with that, and God bless anyone who has.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, so you just love the tow trucks?
Grant Gibbs
I think it could be a good business. I don't know.
Lacey Mosley
I feel like me and Ash gotta gang up on you because I've been told 12 times.
Ashley (Ash)
12. Okay, but at what point? At what point is it maybe.
Grant Gibbs
Are you the problem? Like, maybe we have to look inward
Ashley (Ash)
after, like, the fifth time. It's like, I need to look in the mirror.
Grant Gibbs
Is it deadass 12? Yes. What do you mean over the course of how many years?
Lacey Mosley
This is when I first moved to la. It's probably the course of a year and a half. And I won't lie. Like I would go to Hollywood so much. They knew your girl, like they could pull. They had my file ready.
Grant Gibbs
You're like, oh, she's back. Did they give you any deals then? Like a single deal? Loyal customer, Right?
Ashley (Ash)
That's not. I need a punch card customer.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, it was a point.
Lacey Mosley
If you moved to Los Angeles, please, please know this. Never live in a place that does not have parking. Yeah, because I had. I. There was a parking spot at my place, but I thought I was being nice and gave it to one of my roommates because I found the place. I took the largest bedroom with the office ensuite bathroom. So I was like, oh, you can have the parking spot because you have the smallest bedroom.
Grant Gibbs
And There you go, 12 toes later, right? Was it worth it?
Lacey Mosley
Number Grant.
Ashley (Ash)
12 toes later, you like, help these tow truck drivers buy a beach house.
Grant Gibbs
Like you are the reason. That's sweet. That's sweet.
Lacey Mosley
I think it's a scheme too. And here's why I think it's a scheme one. I think towing is necessary. I mean, if your car breaks down, something happens on the road. If you get into an accident, obviously you need a tow truck to like haul that bitch away, Right? But I also think it's a scheme because street cleaning, towing pisses me the fuck off. Especially in Los Angeles, because they will tow your car if the street cleaning is happening on that street, regardless of if the street cleaning truck comes and cleans the street.
Ashley (Ash)
And that's nasty.
Lacey Mosley
There are tow trucks that wait in certain parking lots near areas where if your car is parked, you can park there till 4 o'.
Ashley (Ash)
Clock.
Lacey Mosley
At 4 and 4 on the dot, they start towing these bitches away. So I'm like, you're over here scheming, you're waiting and waiting.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
Supposed to be on call, Mr. Toe Man. What do you mean you waiting at the food for Less parking lot because all these street parking spots about to go up and you just go all these bitches away.
Grant Gibbs
They're kind of having fun with it though. Low key, don't you think? Like they're kind of like staking it out.
Ashley (Ash)
Do you like have a stake, an investment in a tow truck?
Grant Gibbs
Yes.
Lacey Mosley
You're skating Toe op.
Grant Gibbs
Like is your father Scam goddess is getting the exclusive. I am opening a towing business, yes. And I come from a Long line of towing relatives, so.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
I thought your last name was Gibbs. Is it actually Tow.
Grant Gibbs
It's Grant Toy Gibbs. Grant Tow. Gibbs.
Ashley (Ash)
You just love towing.
Lacey Mosley
You just love towing. Okay, so now we know that we have an OPP in our presence. Ash.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, I'm just seeing both sides.
Ashley (Ash)
Just plaggy.
Grant Gibbs
I'm just seeing both sides. If you're gonna be a tower, least have fun with it. Stake out, spot a little.
Ashley (Ash)
That's true.
Lacey Mosley
Very whimsical, you know, Very fun. I'm glad someone had fun. I will say though, if you do get towed and you see your car actively being towed, just go ahead. Well, this is reckless, but this is my advice. Just go ahead and get inside the car. If you can't.
Grant Gibbs
Yes. Oh my God.
Lacey Mosley
I've always legally tow a car with a person inside.
Ashley (Ash)
Is that true?
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, you just sit there.
Grant Gibbs
Because I kidnap.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, you gotta be like a squatter.
Lacey Mosley
Eventually they're going to have to put your car down because they can't tow the car with you inside of it.
Ashley (Ash)
Good job.
Grant Gibbs
Can you get a ticket if you're. Oh, well, yeah, I was going to say, can you get a ticket if you're in your car? Probably.
Lacey Mosley
Maybe. I don't know. Just try it. Seems exciting, right? Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
Jump on the hood. If they're. If they're already moving to. Jump on the hood and let it ride.
Ashley (Ash)
Do what you got to do.
Grant Gibbs
I say jump. What are they going to do? They're going to have to set up
Lacey Mosley
a level each time. Jump on the hood, grab a tire and let the tow truck drag you and your car away.
Grant Gibbs
Yes, yes. Scam them back.
Lacey Mosley
Scam. Schema. Real thing. Streaming subscriptions.
Grant Gibbs
The major platforms.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, streaming TV and film.
Grant Gibbs
I know a major platform that I would say is more scammy than the others, but I won't say. But it's just my personal opinion.
Lacey Mosley
We have to work in this business. You can tell me after.
Grant Gibbs
Um, I don't know.
Ashley (Ash)
I think it's a.
Lacey Mosley
Well, I don't know.
Grant Gibbs
It's not like a gym membership where like they make it impossible to like cancel.
Ashley (Ash)
I think it's kind of schemy though, the way that I can no longer use my parents streaming platforms because I'm not in the household.
Grant Gibbs
Yes.
Ashley (Ash)
Like that is just nasty. It's robbery. I can't watch Bridgerton now because I haven't gone to my parents in New Jersey in three weeks. That's just effed up.
Grant Gibbs
Some of them too are doing it with like the quality. Like you have to Pay a certain, like, premium to get, like, 4K streaming.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah. Or like, oh, now I have to watch commercials when I'm trying to watch the Housewives. Really? Great.
Grant Gibbs
That too. Oh, yeah. And I thought Hulu, when it first came out or whatever, like, wasn't it free because of the ads of it all? But then it's like, now you still pay for ads, and then you have to pay a higher one for no ads.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
And what's skinny about that, to me is that all these no ad premiums that you pay for now, they still got ads in them. I'm like, what do you mean? I paid to never see an advertisement? And you're showing me ads right now that I'm paying for, and the price keeps creeping up and up and up. And I'm sorry. I know y' all are just, like, a tad bit younger than me. I'm a millennial. I feel like y' all are on the cusp right at Gen Z. This is our fault. So sorry. We thought that we was being inn.
Grant Gibbs
We.
Lacey Mosley
We were like, we're not getting cable. We're cutting the cord, and we're gonna be online, you know, so we thought we were really like, okay, I'm gonna just watch the shows that I wanna watch on this one platform. And then corporate America got hip, and they were like, oh, we're all gonna have a streaming platform now. We're paying more than we would have paid to just have cable.
Grant Gibbs
Cable, right. Yeah. And they're doing, like, live events on the streaming platforms now. So at what point is the streaming platforms just cable?
Ashley (Ash)
It basically is.
Lacey Mosley
Should we reinvent cable? I feel like I just call it Cord.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes.
Lacey Mosley
Hey, y' all, get on my new app. It's called Cord. It puts all the streaming services together for one low price.
Grant Gibbs
Yes. Yes.
Ashley (Ash)
Cause also, that's what's gonna happen. There's something really nostalgic about being like, I have to be home, sitting on my couch at 8pm Appointment, watch my show. Yes. Like the summer house reunion. It's like, I know I need to be sat for that. And there's something really nice about that. I can't just binge.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
It's also community, I feel like. And. And I have a very strong stance on spoilers, which is that nothing is a spoiler after something airs. If you haven't watched it when it aired, that's on you, boo.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
Like, you want us all online to collectively be quiet because you haven't watched something on time. Inherently selfish and weird. Stay offline or block the words to the show, it's not our fault that you ain't keeping up. Because I think there's something really beautiful about watching something at the same time as a lot of other people and collectively talking about it and, like, all kind of being the same place in the zeitgeist. So I agree with that because I remember watching the finale of Game of Thrones. Twitter asked me to come to their headquarters, and they had this big party, and we were all live tweeting. Game of Thrones. Yes, live tweeting. If you watched Game of Thrones, you know the finale is terrible. So they hired all these motherfuckers. We had an Iron Throne, all this food, drinks. T. Pain was there for some reason. T. Pain on the mic, just talking. We were like, yes, this makes sense. T. Pain should be here, of course.
Grant Gibbs
And it's part of the twi. The live tweeting experience.
Ashley (Ash)
You know what? There are certain shows that I feel like the time in the Zeitgeist really came and went. Like, Breaking Bad. Like, I'm never gonna start that now because it was such a moment. I'm not getting into it.
Grant Gibbs
Well, it's on streaming, but, like, it's
Ashley (Ash)
not as fun because that was a show everyone was tuning in for at the time. Now it's like, I don't. I don't need to watch that, you know?
Grant Gibbs
Do you remember On Demand, what was it called? Video On Demand. Like Blue.
Ashley (Ash)
The Blue.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was our blockbuster. That was our. You Rena movie.
Ashley (Ash)
And that's where people would buy porn, huh?
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, people used to buy porn.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
My mom was in some, like, class action lawsuit against, I think, like, Comcast during that era because of how accessible, like, porn was to, like, kids. Like, at that time. Like, you could just stumble across it if you're just playing with the remote. And I think I actually did. Maybe that's why she was so passionate about it. But like, yeah, very interesting.
Lacey Mosley
I mean, we all did. I mean, back in the day, the Cinemax had the Skinmax After Dark. HBO After Dark. After Dark. It was watching, you know, me, my cousins, and we was all in my cousin's refurbished garage watching SexCorp.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, it's true. HBO used to literally. I just feel like it was known for, like, showing Caw.
Lacey Mosley
Okay. Yeah.
Ashley (Ash)
Hbo. Are you serious?
Grant Gibbs
Is so rare to see.
Lacey Mosley
You never see Sam Levinson puts has
Ashley (Ash)
brought the dean back to you guys. I was watching the show off campus on Amazon prime, on Jeff Bezos's Amazon, and there is zoomed in Full frontal men zoomed in.
Grant Gibbs
Let me tune in.
Ashley (Ash)
It's a show by hockey players.
Grant Gibbs
It was crazy.
Lacey Mosley
Who decided that we were gonna sexualize hockey? Because there's, like, three hockey shows where, like, yeah, there's a puck, there's ice,
Grant Gibbs
but also fuck it all at once, too.
Ashley (Ash)
I am locked in. I just read a seven book series about hockey players that, like, just fuck each other, fuck their classes, every book. Seven books. Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
That's a scheme. That's a scheme.
Ashley (Ash)
At one point, they. Sex on the Zamboni. It was crazy.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, my God.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, they're doing it on the Zamboni.
Lacey Mosley
Zamboni sex is crazy.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. Is there ever any, like, overcross? Overcross? Is that even a word? Crossover.
Lacey Mosley
There we go.
Grant Gibbs
Is there anybody on the Zamboni? Wake it up.
Lacey Mosley
Thank you, Rich Zambonin. They was.
Grant Gibbs
Do the figure skaters ever come in to meet with the hockey.
Ashley (Ash)
That's gonna be a book called Icebreaker. And that book gets absolutely nasty. There's butt stuff.
Grant Gibbs
But is it between heteros?
Ashley (Ash)
Yes. That's why it's like. Wait, what? Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
Okay. Wow. Wake it up.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's. What's going on in hockey right now is insane.
Lacey Mosley
I mean, and when I think about it more, because I just think hockey, you're in all these heavy, padded things. We can't see what your butt looks like. Like, you know, you're covered in clothing and you're skating. It just feels like there's so much, like, physics involved. I never thought of the sexuality, but now that I think about it, hockey is one of the few sports where you're still allowed to, like, beat the other team's ass. Like, you can fight. And what's right next to fighting?
Grant Gibbs
Fucking.
Ashley (Ash)
Fucking.
Grant Gibbs
Fucking.
Lacey Mosley
How did we not realize how horny it was?
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, it's a really good point. But you know what? I don't feel that way when I see a man, like, wrestle. I'm not getting all hot and bothered for, like, John Cena, you know?
Lacey Mosley
And that's kind of close. That's because wrestling feels more like dancing and performance art.
Ashley (Ash)
You know what I mean?
Lacey Mosley
They are oiled up and half naked, so they're giving you the horniness up top. And it's fully clothed winter interdressed men go at it.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah. Wrestling's more almost homoerotic, I would say. They're oiled up and, like, rolling around with each other.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, they. They know what they're doing. But with hockey, it's kind of hotter because it's like, this is a Secret.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes.
Grant Gibbs
It's like what is under the path.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes.
Lacey Mosley
It's like it's so cold on the ice. We gotta warm up.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
Sex.
Grant Gibbs
Something to think about.
Ashley (Ash)
Damn, I gotta go to a Rangers game.
Lacey Mosley
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Ashley (Ash)
We actually, we were invited to a Rangers game for some sort of like Pride Night thing, but we weren't in town.
Grant Gibbs
We deadass only get invited to like sporting events if it's Pride Night. So that's our thing.
Lacey Mosley
Too soon, baby. So y' all better get gear up.
Grant Gibbs
We just went to the Liberty game. Pride Night.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, we went to a WNBA game,
Grant Gibbs
but that's already a little gay. Like there's a lot of lesbians
Lacey Mosley
at a Liberty game. Hell yeah. Do I have pictures with my elephant queen Ellie?
Grant Gibbs
Yes, Ellie. I got photos with Ellie.
Ashley (Ash)
She is everything. She is snatched too.
Grant Gibbs
The lady next to me just kept saying RuPaul's in there. I was like, oh my God. Don't break the illusion. Don't break the illusion.
Lacey Mosley
The routines, everything is tea. I will say final for me on streaming subscriptions is it is a. It's a scheme that's turning into a scam every single month. Everybody talking about we charge in more. We charge in more. We charge in more. And like you're already locked in and you want to watch your shows. I've worked for certain platforms, I won't say which, but I'VE talked to, like, the heads of these platforms about, like what, like how our shows were performing or whatever. And the biggest interest that they had was getting new audience, which means that they would put out shows to attract the demographic. Once they. That demographic has signed on, they don't really give a fuck about the show because it's a Ponzi scheme. So that's why shows that you love get canceled after three seasons. They don't want to do or after four is a very popular place to cancel a show because after four seasons, there's typically a contract renegotiation where everyone on the show will be asking for more money. So they're like, we'll do four seasons. Fire all y' all hoes. And we already got your subscription, you know, your fans, they're already locked in and paying this monthly fee. And now we move on to something else that attracts a new demo. And then we cancel that because we don't want the show. We don't care about art. We care about getting more money from people.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. Ponzi scheme's a good way to look at it, huh? That is nasty. Bring back. Let's make. We're gonna make a grassroots streaming company. It's gonna be called Swink Twink Productions with Under the Redhead llc. And it's gonna be. It is gonna be a premium. It's gonna be $100 a month.
Ashley (Ash)
And we star in every piece of content.
Grant Gibbs
And we will star in every piece of content. Lacy. We'll send you some opportunities you can audition for and we'll see if it fits.
Lacey Mosley
Audition? I can't get an offer. Damn.
Grant Gibbs
Great.
Lacey Mosley
Tow my car and make the audition for Twink Productions.
Ashley (Ash)
We want to see a self date. I'm at my audition.
Lacey Mosley
Grant's going to be towing my car outside.
Grant Gibbs
Yes. That's going to be the whole thing. It's a scheme on top of a scene. Yeah. In person audition. You're coming in and while you're in the room, I have have a whole team of towers outside. And that's part of the show that's going to be. The. One of the shows is going to be a reality show and it's going to be like about my towing company.
Ashley (Ash)
They should do like, like Tops Live, but tow trucks.
Grant Gibbs
They had mad. But I think it was scripted. I forget what it was. They had something and it was so funny.
Ashley (Ash)
All right, well, we're going to greenlight it.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
Twinks. Yes.
Ashley (Ash)
Get your.
Lacey Mosley
Get your shows on, Twinks. All right, last one. Scam scheme or a Real thing. Celebrity skin care.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, it's funny. I just tried Alex Earl's skin Care. Yeah.
Ashley (Ash)
Okay.
Grant Gibbs
Got it right there. Bedside. Oh, well, that's your makeup tape. Yeah. Your vanity.
Ashley (Ash)
I have a lot of celebrity skincare right next to me right now, so I have to say I think it's the real thing. I think they partner with some great scientists.
Grant Gibbs
I. I kind of agree. I think. I bet you. So it's someone scientist with a dream who wants to make their skincare a reality, and they have to partner, unfortunately, these days with a celebrity to get it out there. I don't think the celebrity really has anything to do with it other than putting their name on it. Right.
Ashley (Ash)
But I will say it is obvious when said celebrity is, like, heavily involved or not involved at all. And I think when you're heavily involved, like a Rihanna or a Selena Gomez, it's better than when it's like you're just slapping your name on, like, mediocre lip liner, you know?
Lacey Mosley
And I do see Rihanna's makeup products on professional sets. Like, I'll never see any Kardashian makeup, but I will see Fenty on a set, you know, and they use it. It has so many shades. It goes, like. Especially as someone who's darker complected, it really does run the gamut, and it's a quality product. And people have used Fenty on me, you know, for red carpets, for TV shows and things like that. I will say Rihanna's skincare, given a little scheme, I think she might have took her foot off the gas on the Fenty skin.
Grant Gibbs
Fenty skin.
Ashley (Ash)
That's true. I feel like skin care now that I like makeup, I think is, like, the real thing, because, like, no one sits in the glam chair more than these. These gals. Right. But also, skincare, yeah, Is like, I've been told by, you know, dermatologists that you're better off using, like, a Sarave, a La Roche posay, something that's more neutral.
Grant Gibbs
I have enjoyed Alex Earle's skincare. I can't lie. Like, the cleanser I'm gonna be repurchasing, I might Reaper. I like the moisturizer, too. It is a little scented, but I think it's scented from natural type of things. I don't think it's natural.
Ashley (Ash)
Natural, Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
I don't think.
Lacey Mosley
Did you read the ingredients, Grant, or you just. That was just the. Okay.
Ashley (Ash)
Do people do that? I'm never reading the ingredients.
Grant Gibbs
It smells so natural. It just. It has a natural. It smells like a. A spa In a way, it does,
Ashley (Ash)
like, almost like a eucalyptus. I know. It's like we're getting paid by Alex.
Lacey Mosley
It's giving. Sponsored. It's giving.
Grant Gibbs
Y' all getting paid by Alex.
Lacey Mosley
So y' all scam me to come on the show and talk about Alex's product, because the way that Ash reached right so fast, it was like, right here. Alex, her.
Grant Gibbs
No, that was so nice.
Ashley (Ash)
I got the serum too.
Grant Gibbs
Okay, that's. That's enough of the free product placement.
Lacey Mosley
And that's why I wanted to focus on skincare instead of makeup, because I think there are some legit celebrity back makeups that obviously aren't completely owned by the celebrity, but are, you know, owned by the company. And they've done really good jobs with, like, researching the formulas and making sure that. I mean, like, listen, Queen Latifah really got into pain. I don't know if y' all remember the Queen collection, all the purple things, but she was out here before the rest of the girls, and she was the first brown makeup I saw in the cvs. I was like, wow,
Ashley (Ash)
she was ahead
Lacey Mosley
of the curve, truly. But I do think when it comes to skincare, it kind of gets a little shady. But I think that's because skincare in general can be a scheme. Because I used to. Every time I would go get my facial, you know, the facialist would recommend products or the esthetician would recommend products. I get everything. I was like, I slather myself in creams. That's how I stay young. But my skin started reacting because I had like an 11 step skin routine before I went to bed. And my skin was like, you don't need all of this. What is this?
Grant Gibbs
Literally, that. That is me. Up until, like, I think a month ago, I was like, I do not need to be doing all this. But you had like, the toner. Well, the. The cleanser toner and then the, like, pre cleanse? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Remover the treatment if you're gonna do like, yeah, tretinoin or a serum moisturizer.
Lacey Mosley
Spf, hyaluronic acid, retinol.
Grant Gibbs
You know who's kind of scheming, though?
Ashley (Ash)
Who?
Grant Gibbs
And we've worked with them.
Ashley (Ash)
They're great.
Grant Gibbs
And I actually love their products. Elf skin. They flat out told us, and they're very open about this. They just wait until a patent is up for like, like, from like a drunk elephant or something, and then they just swoop in and make it affordable for everyone and just copy their recipe. Yeah, like, they have. I like their vitamin C, but Then that's another thing I'm wondering. It's like, do I actually need vitamin C, like, serum on my face all the time?
Lacey Mosley
Somebody told us we did, and I believed it.
Grant Gibbs
Right.
Lacey Mosley
I have a red light mask that they were like, add this vitamin C when I bought the red light mask. And it's like a mask that goes on your face and then it has a collar for your neck and your, like, top titty. And then you just put the red light on to restore collagen. You put the blue, blue light on to kill germs. And you just lay in this mask and look like you're like Jason Voorhees for, like, you know, 20 minutes.
Grant Gibbs
Well, you look good. I would do it. Yeah, you told me to.
Ashley (Ash)
I would trust your skin care routine. You know, the other week I did something crazy and I bought makeup wipes for the first time since, like, seventh grade. And I was using makeup wipes. We were. I feel like girls have been told that they're so bad that they're bad for you.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, fuck that.
Ashley (Ash)
They work great. And then I'm washing my face. So you know what? Whoever was, like, up against big makeup wipes, they were wrong.
Grant Gibbs
Dare I justice for big makeup wipes?
Lacey Mosley
It was probably big skincare that was like, no, we need you to wash your face with six products before you go to bed. Not these Neutrogenas. And I'm like, no, sometimes you've been out. It's a long night. The options are fall asleep in my makeup or wipe my face drunkenly in bed.
Ashley (Ash)
And also slightly a nice makeup wipe. Oh, it's great.
Grant Gibbs
And if a boy did a little light boy beat, they don't know how to use all those. Just speaking from experience, I don't try to use those weird wax removers or Nor do I have that. Like, if I just had a thing of makeup wipes. It's much more convenient to just wipe off my light foundation and call it a night, you know?
Ashley (Ash)
Our next venture, we are starting a
Grant Gibbs
makeup wipe, makeup wipe company sponsored by Gibbs Towing.
Lacey Mosley
This is just a development meeting. Yes.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, it really is. How can me and Ashley scam others? That's what we're trying to do. Gather here.
Lacey Mosley
Yes, we're going to lock it in. I'm going to say celebrity skin care scheme. For me, I think it can be legit. I think some people endorse, like, they work with really good scientists and slap their name on something that is a quality product. But I think a lot of times it can be a scheme and I also think that people with especially celebs with really good skin who, you know, do those videos where they're like, first of all, the biggest scheme about skincare is I don't want to see another fucking commercial where I'm watching a lady in the scene splash water on her face. Never in my life have I put my hands in a cup under the sink and then splash water on my face. Like, who's cleaning the bathroom after this?
Ashley (Ash)
That makes a damn mess.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, that's a good point. And the before and after pics, like, if it's an acne type of product, honey, those are two different people. They gotta be right?
Ashley (Ash)
And the celebrities that do that, it's like, yeah, you use this moisturizer. You also got a vampire facial. Two weeks ago, you spent two grand on that facial. So please to us, or maybe it's just genetics.
Lacey Mosley
Some people just naturally have clear skin, right? I have a friend who only washes her face with water and I've never seen a pore on her face.
Ashley (Ash)
Damn. Must be nice.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah. So sometimes you can't, you know, miracle yourself out of genetics.
Ashley (Ash)
That's true.
Lacey Mosley
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Grant Gibbs
What the hell is the GDP?
Ashley (Ash)
It's gonna be like the economy, the. I don't know what it stands for.
Lacey Mosley
It's growth domestic product. So we put out the products that are selling and generating the coin and then through taxes, federal taxes, we give it back to the states. And all the broke bitches in flyover states take our money and then try to restrict our rights.
Ashley (Ash)
Right. More on that.
Grant Gibbs
Wake it up.
Ashley (Ash)
Right, Right.
Lacey Mosley
I'm from Texas. We love a good secession. I'm like, I don't know, Cali, we might just need to leave the U.S. okay. We don't have to be with them.
Grant Gibbs
We can survive alone. I would support that.
Ashley (Ash)
Do what you gotta do.
Lacey Mosley
But speaking of somebody who is also trying to take away our rights and destroy us, we're first up here is Spencer Pratt. Ooh, gross. He's an elder millennial reality TV villain who is also a villain in real life. Spencer Pratt, who is currently running for mayor of Los Angeles. And we do not want this to happen. But he is gaining more and more traction.
Grant Gibbs
Oh my God.
Lacey Mosley
His face is bloated. He has no skills. It's giving Trump, but for California, his
Ashley (Ash)
face is really bloated. That's a really good point.
Lacey Mosley
That's cuz he drinking too much. I could tell when you drink it too much, it shows up right in the face and the belly. Shit. And he is like, Trump has endorsed him. He's basically running on that same kind of politic. And a lot of rich people in Los Angeles are getting behind him simply because he's a puppet. He ain't. He has no experience. He don't know how to figure out a budget. He don't.
Grant Gibbs
He.
Lacey Mosley
I'm sure he'll be falling asleep in all of the mayoral meetings that he has to do if he is elected. Please God, don't let it happen. But I think that scam works for him because a lot of rich people want a puppet in politics that can be bought and we know Spencer is poor as fuck, so if anybody's offering him a coin to buy a new residence after his burned down in the fires, he probably gonna let him do whatever they want right now.
Grant Gibbs
He's so ugly, I have to say, he's so busted.
Ashley (Ash)
And all his, like, campaign videos are a. Like, made by AI, but, like, not. Not even in a compelling way. They look like shit. Because he's trying to take every shortcut financially, because he's broke and busted, and
Lacey Mosley
he keeps lying every time someone calls out that it's made from AI. Mind you, city of performers and actors who do not want to be replaced by artificial intelligence. So I don't know why you think using AI is going to convince us. Yeah, but he always says that his supporters made the AI videos, not him.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, just like the other week when Trump had that A of him, like, with the Pope, he was like, oh, my supporters made that? I just tweeted it. Like, girl, please, you're an idiot.
Lacey Mosley
We know you were on chat GTP and you made that yourself, right? At 3am in one of your dementia stupors. Like, please be serious.
Ashley (Ash)
He's not even using Claude. Like, we know.
Lacey Mosley
So you might remember him probably not from the Princes of Malibu in 2005, or obviously from the hills in 2007, where he had. Had he and Heidi Montag merged into Spidey and spread a rumor about Lauren Conrad and Jason Waller having a sex tape that basically reverberated across the MTV landscape for the next decade. Because in 2007, sex tapes were a thing. Yeah, you know, we had Kim K. We had Paris Hilton before that. Poor, poor Pamela Anderson. I love you, boy. That. That. That was the sex tape that was super wrong. They stole that shit from her safe in her house.
Ashley (Ash)
And I think making the show out of it was also kind of effed up when she did not want it.
Lacey Mosley
She did not consent to that. I was like, how you gonna make a show about a woman's consent being taken away without her consent?
Ashley (Ash)
Right, right. That was fucked up.
Lacey Mosley
And then also, I thought the casting was wrong because I did watch part of it until I saw the news that Pamela Anderson did not want this to come out. And I was like, all right, Hulu, I can't. She.
Grant Gibbs
She.
Lacey Mosley
Y' all viol. But they cast Seth Rogen to be the sex tape thief, which I thought was terrible casting, because Seth Rogen is genuinely a likable person on screen, no matter what he's doing. And I found myself trying to, like, sympathize with him. And I'm like, no, you supposed to be the villain. I'm supposed to hate your ass. You a bitch, and I hate you. I was like, oh, they didn't pay him for the renovation, so he had to steal that lady's sex tape, right?
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, I know. They kind of like. Like, made him seem like a victim.
Grant Gibbs
They gave him a backstory.
Ashley (Ash)
Also, no shade to Tommy Lee, but Sebastian Stan was way too hot to be cast as that man. I'm sorry, I hate to say it.
Grant Gibbs
Who made the show? Ryan Murphy.
Lacey Mosley
Right?
Ashley (Ash)
No, but making a show about people.
Lacey Mosley
It would have been way more booty cheeks if it was Ryan Murphy.
Grant Gibbs
I.
Lacey Mosley
Sometimes I've stumbled upon a Ryan Murphy project without knowing it's his. And because of how many tight man asses I see in the first five minutes, I'm like, ryan Murphy. And I look at him like, yeah, he did.
Grant Gibbs
You know, Ryan Murphy follows Twinkin, a redhead. I think he has a little crush. Crush? No shade.
Lacey Mosley
I could definitely see you on one of his productions. You're hot enough. Both of you are one less.
Grant Gibbs
He loves sexy people.
Lacey Mosley
A young sexy.
Grant Gibbs
If you see my ass on tv, don't ask. Don't ask and don't tell.
Lacey Mosley
Right? I'm gonna hear you grand. Be like, I feel like I just saw your booty cheeks. That was me.
Grant Gibbs
That was me. That was me.
Lacey Mosley
One hand, a little dimple. That was me.
Grant Gibbs
Yes. Ryan didn't cast me fully in a role. I was just the stunt double for the ass take. I was the ass double. Do they have those?
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, actually. Cause one time I've had a foot double. I won't put my foot. My feet on tv.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Ashley (Ash)
That's why I had to look at
Lacey Mosley
a lot of people's feet and. And, like, figure out which foot would look more like my foot.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, that's fun.
Grant Gibbs
Okay.
Lacey Mosley
It was an interesting day. So in 2010, remember, Spencer and Heidi are Spidey. They spread a horrible sex tape rumor, and Spencer pressured Heidi Montag into getting all that plastic surgery that she got.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes. Oh, I'll never forget that. Holy shit. That was.
Lacey Mosley
And she was a cute girl. She looks like the cute little white girl next door. And now she looks like handsome Squidward. And I don't know why.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah. Yes.
Grant Gibbs
She looks like she's wearing a mask. No shade. She looks extreme.
Lacey Mosley
And in 2010, Heidi filed for divorce, but it turned out to be a fake divorce to try to boost her music career. And they never actually separated, so she couldn't get nobody to listen to her bops. And she was like, they staged women divorce. PR is crazy.
Grant Gibbs
Was she thinking people would tune in in the way, like, people tune into Taylor? Like, breakup album vibes. Vibes. Like, what was the goal? I just am not following that.
Lacey Mosley
Well, I think because they had worked in reality for so long, most of their publicity boost probably came from fallouts or some kind of drama.
Ashley (Ash)
And he was him as like, she was hated after what she did to Lauren Conrad, but he was literally like the biggest villain on television at that time. The whole world hated him. So I think she probably thought. Thought she has to get rid of this guy if she wants to make it and pop, but right up her
Lacey Mosley
social clout by, like, tossing him under the bus for a second.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
The same year that they tried the fake divorce, Spencer was arrested in Costa Rica for bringing guns on an airplane and was banned from re entering the country.
Ashley (Ash)
What?
Grant Gibbs
Now what was that about?
Lacey Mosley
He brought some guns to Costa Rica. You know, as one does. Yes.
Ashley (Ash)
What a shoot a. A crocodile. Like, they.
Grant Gibbs
He was staying strapped. He was staying strapped. You never know.
Ashley (Ash)
Stain straps.
Lacey Mosley
I think that should be a basic requirement for any public office is you can't be banned from reentering any country. You mean you want to be the mayor of la? You can't go to Costa Rica? Not that we need to go there, but, like, you are banned from countries. Like.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
You're not a good guy.
Ashley (Ash)
That's a really good point. He's a free.
Grant Gibbs
I don't think you should. I don't think reality stars in general should be able to run for office. No shade. I think it already shows your intentions are off.
Ashley (Ash)
Did you guys see Mike? The situation from Jersey Shore wants to run for office in New Jersey.
Grant Gibbs
That might be different.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, no.
Ashley (Ash)
Grant's like.
Lacey Mosley
He's actually the silent partner in my towing company.
Ashley (Ash)
He literally went to federal prison for, like, tax evasion. I don't know if he should be a part of.
Grant Gibbs
But we all know tax evasion. It could be an honest mistake.
Lacey Mosley
Your opinion is not valid. It's giving. Gym, tan, laundry. We are not listening to you.
Grant Gibbs
And is that not a perfect slogan to run for in New Jersey?
Ashley (Ash)
Gym, tan, laundry.
Grant Gibbs
Yes. Situation 2028.
Lacey Mosley
We already in a situation. We don't need no more laundry.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
We trying to get out. So Spencer Pratt has been doing some live lies, as we expect, right. In his mayoral campaign. So he's claimed to be living in an Airstream trailer on the land where his house was lost in last year's Palisade. Fires. The optics were great since he's running on a platform of being mad at our current like incumbent Democratic Mayor Karen Bass and the LA Department of Water and Power for letting his house burn down in the first place. But he's actually living in the Hotel Bel Air, where rooms start at more than $1,500 a. And what better way to fund a free lifestyle when you're broke as hell than to start an election campaign where you can take in donations? And technically, you can say that living at the Bel Air Hotel is a campaign expense.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, my God. Also, that suit he's wearing in this picture, it does not look well fitted.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, he not using none of this money. He's stealing for wardrobe, but clearly. What is this? It's giving, like, I gotta go to court real fast.
Grant Gibbs
He looks built really crazy. He looks like. Built that like he could birth a baby. Oh, I'm sorry. Is that problematic to say?
Lacey Mosley
No.
Ashley (Ash)
Like, yes. You're saying he has childbearing hips.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, he has childbearing. He has childbearing hips.
Ashley (Ash)
He does.
Lacey Mosley
He's a hippie man, for sure.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
It's just like, what is this? It's got sneakers on with it.
Ashley (Ash)
This is.
Grant Gibbs
The pants are long.
Ashley (Ash)
This is exactly the thing that these busted, corrupt politicians do. It's what Trump did while Biden was president. You act like you're like, have an active campaign. You get all these donations, and they cover your lifestyle and your legal fees. Because I'm sure Spencer Pratt is going to catch a case at some point and he's going to need that money for some legal fees.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, wake it up.
Ashley (Ash)
So, yeah, it's just like a tale as old as time, but it looks
Lacey Mosley
like the suit hates him.
Ashley (Ash)
Him. It looks like he got it from the clothes.
Lacey Mosley
Don't want to be on his body.
Grant Gibbs
The suit is jumping off him.
Lacey Mosley
Yes. I don't want to be on this, man.
Ashley (Ash)
He could use a tailor. He could use a tailor.
Lacey Mosley
I've never seen someone who I could smell through a photo. He looks like he smells bad.
Ashley (Ash)
It looks thick. I know. He. He's got ax on. Doesn't he look like that type of guy, too?
Lacey Mosley
Like a body spray that makes her eyes burn.
Ashley (Ash)
For sure.
Grant Gibbs
The blue eyes Axe. That is used in seventh grade locker rooms.
Ashley (Ash)
That's exactly what I was thinking of.
Lacey Mosley
Like, right after the boys would, like, work out in pe and then instead of showering, they just sprayed themselves. Hose themselves down with that blue ax.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, he's taking a cologne shower.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, cologne shower. And I feel like his Breath smells like shrimp cocktail and bourbon.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, poor Heidi. Well, she made her bed.
Lacey Mosley
So Spencer has gone on InfoWars with Alex Jones multiple times and said he thinks 911 was an inside job. Oh, yeah, Infowars, where they make up all the info. I can't believe Alex Jones is still doing this shit. Because he got sued by everyone. He said Sandy Hook was a hoax and the families of Sandy Hook sued the fuck out of him and they own everything he's got now. He didn't pay that money back.
Grant Gibbs
He is a moron.
Lacey Mosley
Spencer's gone on InfoWars and said 911 was a hoax and an inside job. He does not believe in global warming.
Ashley (Ash)
Sure.
Lacey Mosley
And defended Sandy Hook deniers. Luckily he had his ass and get sued with Alex. But he hopped on the bandwag with Alex saying that these poor families who had their children gunned down at an elementary school were not real.
Grant Gibbs
What the hell? What is this bitch even running on? Like, if it's.
Ashley (Ash)
Basically, he's running on his house burned down and the Palisades fire.
Grant Gibbs
Okay.
Lacey Mosley
What is hell? Like, Karen. Karen Bass has had some failed policies.
Ashley (Ash)
Sure.
Lacey Mosley
Being the mayor of LA is more complicated than people think. Because it's not just like, you have absolute power. You're also working with city council. You're also, like, submitting things that can get vetoed based on your political enemies. And I don't think it's fair to blame fire on Karen Bass. I'm sorry. Fire. And like, Santa Ana wins. And you didn't have insurance on your home, bitch, that's on you now. I will say he might live in an area. I will give him this benefit of a doubt. There are certain areas in Los Angeles now that home insurance won't cover. So there's certain parts of Malibu where you cannot get home insurance because they're like, we know your house gonna burn down and we ain't giving you that money.
Grant Gibbs
That's insane. They. They banned home insure insurance because they know that that could happen.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes.
Grant Gibbs
And they want y' all to pay
Lacey Mosley
up because, I mean, insurance is a Ponzi scheme and their best bet is nothing happens to you and you pay into the fund and never need to use use it.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
So if you live in an area where you definitely probably will at some point need it, they was like, we ain't giving y' all insurance no more.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, my God.
Lacey Mosley
I'll stay safe. You're not in good hands. We letting you go.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
It sounds like something Spencer will probably make citywide that you can't get insurance
Lacey Mosley
just for drag us all to hell.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
So Spencer has been, you know, reposting those AI generated videos that he said is like his fans creating them. Some of them depict him. Is Luke Skywalker, Batman, defending a dystopian Los Angeles from Governor Gavin Newson and Mayor Karen Bass. He's Batman. I honestly, I don't think that we would love Batman if Batman was real. Because essentially, Batman is just a bored ass billionaire who's mad that his parents are dead. So he got to tear up the city every night. Nobody asked him to tear the city up every night.
Ashley (Ash)
I also don't think we would love Batman if he had the physique of Spencer Pratt at.
Grant Gibbs
No, I was just gonna say that
Ashley (Ash)
I don't think he would be saving the day. I think he would be, you know, at a drive thru. No shame.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. At least. At least Batman was hot. Yeah. The Batmobile would be in the. The in n out every day. Oh. Oh, that's my.
Ashley (Ash)
Literally.
Grant Gibbs
But, you know, like, yeah, he's not. He's not built to be a superhero.
Lacey Mosley
No. If he came to rescue me, I'd be like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Actually, I'm gonna take the robbery. I'm gonna get mug. No, you. You go about your day.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, it's, like, embarrassing if he was to come rescue you. Like, oh, my God.
Lacey Mosley
And as TikTok savants, I wonder if you've heard this. There was a trend of groups of MAGA voters outside of state claiming that they'll travel to California to illegally vote for Spencer in the primary election this June. It's not clear if people will really do this, but if they try, they would probably be turned away at the polls since their names would not appear on a voter registration list. But Spencer does have the MAGA bump, which apparently is still a bump. He's got endorsements from Trump, Adam Carolla, Joe Rogan, and James Woods. And, you know, Joe Rogan, they all look the same.
Grant Gibbs
These people on TikTok, by the way,
Lacey Mosley
is inspirational to me because to go from making people eat cow testicles on. On network TV to being a thought leader.
Grant Gibbs
Let's think for a moment. Let's. Let's lock in and. And critically think about this, y'. All.
Lacey Mosley
Oh, no. If you listen to Joe Rogan, you're not a critical thinker.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
Okay.
Ashley (Ash)
You lack Gene. It's crazy. All those men that you just listed as, like, endorsing him. It's this such an interesting example of, like, men that have such Toxic masculinity. But at the end of the day, they're all such fucking losers that, like, I would not trust to protect me at all. It's just so interesting. And they're also busted. Like, that is such a pattern we see here.
Lacey Mosley
Straight men, they love to be like, well, who would protect you if men didn't exist? I'm like, we wouldn't need protection.
Ashley (Ash)
Right? Y' all weren't here.
Grant Gibbs
Right?
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
You know, the bear or the man in the woods? Yeah. We still choosing the bear?
Ashley (Ash)
The bear. Always the bear.
Grant Gibbs
What if it was Grant or the bear? The bear.
Lacey Mosley
I'm gonna go with Grant.
Ashley (Ash)
I don't know.
Lacey Mosley
Where's my car parked at the time?
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Grant Gibbs
It's safely at the hiking parking lot,
Lacey Mosley
so I don't want to tell you guys who to vote for, but. Well, I do want to tell. I'm a leader, too, damn it. I am telling you, don't vote for fucking Spencer Pratt.
Grant Gibbs
That's idiotic.
Lacey Mosley
For the guy who had a song called I'm a Celebrity in which he calls himself the white Jay Z. Can we all be serious? No.
Grant Gibbs
He's deaf, a puppet, and I feel like these people just want attention in any way. And he's such a flop and has fallen so far off that, okay, let me run for office. Dr. Oz did it too, did he not?
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, right. And honestly, it's not far fetched. We've had Mayor Eric Adams, who literally just was at the club the whole time he was mayor and stealing money and going to Turkey all the goddamn time. You know, we had Toronto's crack mayor, Rob Ford, Mayor, fully doing crack. You know, which crack does give you energy, so, you know, he might have been working on policies
Grant Gibbs
out.
Ashley (Ash)
We got to give.
Grant Gibbs
How is it any different than drinking a Celsius? You know what I mean?
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, it's just a faster Celsius.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, it's more effective. It's prescription. Celsius.
Lacey Mosley
Prescription is crazy.
Grant Gibbs
He was prescribed. It was the mayor.
Lacey Mosley
Honestly, I have adhd, and they're definitely giving us prescription meth. They're like, you can't clean your room. Take this prescription meth. Then you'll be able to do all of your chores.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, okay. Wake it up.
Lacey Mosley
Fair enough.
Grant Gibbs
Fair enough. Let's.
Lacey Mosley
We're gonna move on to. We're gonna stay in the mayor situation here for a second. We have a Georgia mayor who fires a whole police force on behalf of his wife.
Grant Gibbs
That's sweet.
Lacey Mosley
So on May 6, Mayor Ron Schmick of Kahon, Georgia, Sorry, they Just pulled
Grant Gibbs
up a picture that looks like one of the house goblins.
Ashley (Ash)
That's what I was gonna say.
Grant Gibbs
From Gringotts. That looks like the Gringotts bank.
Ashley (Ash)
He's from Gringott Y.
Lacey Mosley
That jump scare was crazy.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, that was really scary.
Ashley (Ash)
That Como Jessica.
Lacey Mosley
You could have gave us a warning. You can't just throw a picture up like that.
Grant Gibbs
Ask. Have you been to Universal Studios Orlando, Lacy? No. Oh, my God. You have to go to Universal Studios Orlando. You have to go to Diagon Alley, walk into Gringott's bank, and that man is sitting right there. Every single.
Ashley (Ash)
Every single goblin looks like this random mayor from Georgia. It's actually insane.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, wow.
Lacey Mosley
This is the stuff of nightmares. Oh, so he's the mayor of Kahuta in Georgia. It's a town of 800 people. He's been the mayor since 2014. Khuta isn't known for much. Cohuda.
Ashley (Ash)
Kahuda.
Lacey Mosley
Okay.
Grant Gibbs
Is it north, north, south Georgia? Where in Georgia?
Lacey Mosley
I don't know where Kahuda is. I'm not a map.
Grant Gibbs
Cooter, Georgia.
Lacey Mosley
Kahuda is known for anything, really, other than being the birthplace of Donald Trump's second wife, Marla Maples, who he shares Tiffany with. Yeah, that's the one we never see.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, because she's, you know, leaves a lot to be desired.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, she did the. The Trump Gays for Trump rally that one time. They said when she was coked out,
Ashley (Ash)
she had coked y' all the entire time.
Lacey Mosley
Oh, I mean, allegedly. But at least she's at the Gays for Trump is crazy.
Grant Gibbs
Trees for deforestation, mama. Right, right. Like, okay.
Lacey Mosley
Trees for Axis. Ron fired the whole the police department after some officers made inappropriate comments about his wife Pam on Facebook. Pam had previously worked as a town clerk in Kahuda until she was fired in 2025 for allegedly creating a hostile work environment, but she continued working for the town afterwards. She gives hostile work environmental face.
Ashley (Ash)
Those highlights are a hostile work environment. Yes. Jesus.
Lacey Mosley
The highlights of a menace to society.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes. She's still asking for a Balayage in 2026.
Grant Gibbs
The eyebrows are a little too thin.
Lacey Mosley
Yes. It's giving cartoon villain for sure.
Grant Gibbs
You know, she might be sweet. She might be sweet, y'.
Ashley (Ash)
All.
Grant Gibbs
Okay, my bad.
Lacey Mosley
If you're in Kahuda and your husband is the mayor and you somehow still managed to get fired, that's how much they can't stand your ass. You.
Grant Gibbs
Do we know what. What was she doing for the city? Do we know? Did. She was a clerk what the hell's a clerk?
Lacey Mosley
They be working in, like, the courthouse.
Ashley (Ash)
Like that woman, Kim Davis, remember, that would deny gay marriage licenses. She was a clerk.
Grant Gibbs
She's like such. She's one of my favorite problematic icons. She is just such a character.
Lacey Mosley
I think it goes beyond problematic. She's a big.
Ashley (Ash)
She is.
Grant Gibbs
She's a.
Ashley (Ash)
She's one of my favorite bigots. She is. She is.
Grant Gibbs
She dead is. Because she is so gun ho on that one.
Lacey Mosley
Favorite bigot.
Ashley (Ash)
We can all have one. Mine's the. Mine's the January 6th, Grandma. That. That's my favorite bigot.
Grant Gibbs
They're just iconic. Like, Kim Davis is iconic in. If it's a spectrum, like, it's on the wrong end of the spectrum. But, like, I would be her for Halloween. You know what I mean?
Ashley (Ash)
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Lacey Mosley
And you should be here for Halloween because the bitch is scary.
Grant Gibbs
So wake it up.
Lacey Mosley
In response to them trashing Pam on Facebook, Ron eliminated the police force. He defunded the police. Damn, that's. Oh, not him. Low key. Being an activist, it's like when you
Ashley (Ash)
go so far right, somehow you end up on the left.
Grant Gibbs
You're liberal. Wait, so he. And he defunded the police because she got fired?
Lacey Mosley
Yes. And they were talking shit about her on Facebook. He did not like the Facebook comments. So he's like, we getting rid of the police. And so he recommended that people who needed law enforcement call a non emergency number. Ron was violating the town charter, but it didn't seem to faze him. In an interview, he said, it's a guy thing. You know, occasionally college football programs, you. You. You have to change the coach. And sometimes people like it, some don't. And that's just kind of the way it happens sometimes.
Grant Gibbs
You know, guys, I kind of love him. Oh.
Ashley (Ash)
I just. What do you mean?
Lacey Mosley
It's a guy tired of violent guy things,
Ashley (Ash)
right?
Lacey Mosley
If you guys really want to fight over land or territory, take your asses to Greenland and square up and we can have a UFC match, a little boxing match. Whoever wins gets the territory. Why do we have to get involved?
Ashley (Ash)
Right? And also, it is just, like, the irony. It's. It's crazy how it's so lost on these fucking morons that, like, with Trump and the January six police officers, he's like, giving money to the people that, like, beat these men up. And they're. But then they're like, oh, blue lives matter. Like, you all are a bunch of fucking morons.
Lacey Mosley
The goalpost keeps moving because y' all used to love police so bad, right? And now police officers died as a result of January 6th. It's traumatic and horrible. I'm like, y' all talk about back the blue now. Y' all talking about beat em till they black and. And blue.
Ashley (Ash)
And now you're literally the slush fund. They're giving money to the people that beat the police officers up. Like, are we serious?
Lacey Mosley
He's trying to every. They're trying to do everything to beat these midterms. They done told us they gonna cheat. They told us they're gonna bribe, they gonna steal, they gonna lie. We. We know it's crazy. Speaking of guys who are bad at being in charge, let's talk about the United Airlines CEO, Flying America. Recently, Kirby. Yeah. Scott Kirby, the CEO of United Airlines, was caught.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, God.
Lacey Mosley
Flying first class on an American Airlines flight.
Ashley (Ash)
That is funny.
Grant Gibbs
That is funny as fuck. I'm sorry.
Lacey Mosley
And he got caught because he took a selfie with American Airline flight attendant Christine Tylee. Christine posted the pic on Facebook. Facebook, getting y' all old motherfuckers in trouble.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, I love her back on Facebook,
Lacey Mosley
because Facebook is where everyone documents their crimes. That's how they call half the January Sixers. They were posted photos, and then the FBI was in the comments, like, can you tag them?
Grant Gibbs
Oh, my God. But what was he. Did he not think, like, oh, this could be bad? Or he looks like he's having fun. Like, they both look like they're having a hoot.
Ashley (Ash)
Also, did she recognize.
Lacey Mosley
Kirby wants to be a celebrity. Celebrity. We used to not know who the CEOs were. We used to not know who the director of the FBI was. Everybody who works in these large corporations, they're no longer happy with just stealing exorbitant amounts of money from wages from people who deserve it with their bonuses and their bailouts. Now they want to be famous, too.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, they do press tours, they do podcasts. They. Yeah, they're always. Always being seen.
Ashley (Ash)
It's crazy because. Did this flight attendant, like, she recognized him? She was like.
Lacey Mosley
I mean, she do work in air.
Grant Gibbs
She's in the industry.
Ashley (Ash)
She's.
Grant Gibbs
She's.
Ashley (Ash)
She's into aviation CEOs, I suppose.
Lacey Mosley
But, yeah, I mean, this is how I would take a picture with a writer who I know is like, the baddest bitch, rich as fuck. And the industry people will know who this photo is with, but the everyday person wouldn't know that. This person. Yes, she's been running.
Ashley (Ash)
She's gonna gag her friends in aviation. Like, she knew this was her big one.
Grant Gibbs
But he's smiling in a way that's like, oh, yes. Finally. Like, some people asking for a picture. Like, everyone's gonna clock this. Like, yes.
Lacey Mosley
It's like, I'm a star.
Grant Gibbs
I knew I was a star.
Lacey Mosley
She was giving.
Grant Gibbs
She. You could tell her smile. She's being like, it's. Her friends are gonna gag.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
This is her post on Facebook. She says in all quotes or I'm sorry, in all caps, she says, look who I had in my first class today from sf.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, she knew what she was doing. She was kind. I feel like she was kind of maybe throwing, like, a bit of. I mean, not shade per se, but she was stirring the pot a bit. She was setting people up to, like,
Ashley (Ash)
she was stirring the pot.
Lacey Mosley
She was giving, like, this is my homie. She says, what a great guy. Just as nice as he was back in the day. He misses us. Lol and tells everyone. Hi.
Grant Gibbs
So did he work for Americans before
Lacey Mosley
he became the C. CEO of United? Scott was president of American Airlines from 2013 to 2016. He was let go in 2016 and immediately failed right back upward, as a white man does who still retains most of their hair.
Ashley (Ash)
Right?
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
And he started working for United, and as a part of his exit package, he got unlimited flight privileges on American Airlines for life. So it's not actually that strange to see him on an American flight. What's weird is that he keeps trash talking American Airlines in public while behind the scenes, he was trying to merge United with them until they rejected him a month ago.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, my God.
Ashley (Ash)
I am not fucking with Scott anymore. That is crazy.
Grant Gibbs
Wow.
Lacey Mosley
I don't know. Scott is kind of a messy queen.
Ashley (Ash)
You look.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. I think he was being, like, kind of undercover with it, like, going on these American flights. Like, he's seen, like, what I can take back to United, how we can work together.
Lacey Mosley
Well, you know, rich people love free shit if you got free unlimited flights.
Ashley (Ash)
No one loves hoarding their money more than rich people. Like, they are the chef, cheapest of them all. But I will say he looks like the type of man I'd like to have a margarita with. Like, I know he can clean out and have a good time.
Lacey Mosley
Wean out. I feel like this is the type of man that, like, I'm at a resort.
Grant Gibbs
Yes.
Lacey Mosley
You know, in Punta Cana, we're having a pina colada. They're at the table next to us, and then we all start yapping, and then drinks are flowing, and all of a sudden we order a tomahawk steak with gold on it. And they flambe it in front of us. He feels like a very, very good time. He knows how to. He knows how to have a good time.
Grant Gibbs
And yeah, if I, like, was let go by a company like me being me, I kind of have, like, bad. I would like, be shady with it. I would burn that bridge. But it's sweet that he's like, I can still go on an American flight and still feel fine.
Lacey Mosley
Well, obviously he wasn't like our. Our like the mayor's wife who was terrorizing the clerk's office. Clearly he. The employees loved him. He worked there for three years and they were like, oh, my God, got my homie back. And he's amazing.
Ashley (Ash)
Like, that's true. To have your employee post you on Facebook because she's gagging for you so much.
Grant Gibbs
Your ex employee.
Ashley (Ash)
It does say something about Scott.
Lacey Mosley
It's given they both took two of the little airport vodkas and had a little shot.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah. Having a good time.
Lacey Mosley
They having a real good time. Also, I think strategically he might have been on American Airlines trying to lower their value because he was trying to absorb.
Grant Gibbs
Okay, it's just a businessman.
Ashley (Ash)
What can we say?
Lacey Mosley
What can we say? He a businessman doing businesses.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Lacey Mosley
I love that we excuse horrific human behavior for business. Like, no, they're a businessman.
Grant Gibbs
It's business. It's strictly business.
Lacey Mosley
Land workers had to die.
Ashley (Ash)
It's business.
Lacey Mosley
It's business. It's business.
Grant Gibbs
That happens sometimes with business. You know, there's give and take, give and take. You know, it's give and take.
Lacey Mosley
You know, just give and take. Give, give. A little money, not enough. And take a life.
Grant Gibbs
A life. Take a life. Yes, absolutely.
Lacey Mosley
So now let's. Let's hop over into something quite different. Still a vibe, though. Also someone that I would love to have dinner with at a resort. Dua, lipa and Samsung.
Ashley (Ash)
What's going on here?
Grant Gibbs
Oh, the tv. So I know this.
Lacey Mosley
Finally, dua. LIPA is suing Samsung. Finally, guys. Finally. For at least $15 million plus potentially profits and punitive damages, etc. After the company used a photo of her on television packaging without permission.
Grant Gibbs
Guys, I'm here for it.
Lacey Mosley
You guessed it immediately. You said the TVs. You saw Dua. You saw Dua on the, on the TV.
Grant Gibbs
I. Yes. And I saw this whole little thing and I'm like, yeah, why are they kind of mild milking her a bit? But then I was tuning in because I used to work at ABC News and so I clocked the ABC News Live picture as well. And I was like, how does it work with, like, what goes on the. The preview picture? You know what I mean? Because can ABC News be like, we didn't tell y' all to put us up there. Can we sue?
Lacey Mosley
I also have worked for ABC News. That's what scam got through. Yeah, girl, I was there. So probably take the free press.
Grant Gibbs
They would. I was there when we were developing your show. ABC News Studios. Hello.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, my God, you guys.
Grant Gibbs
And I was so excited about. I was actually. Oh, my God. I was on the ground floor. Cause I was an EA for, like, the executive producers and whatnot. And I like, was like, this needs to be a thing.
Lacey Mosley
Oh, my God.
Grant Gibbs
Cause I was like, I'm a congregation listener. Yeah, that's t world collide.
Lacey Mosley
Wake it up, Greg.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes.
Lacey Mosley
Now they put Dua Lipa on this tv. Like, dance the night away by yourself. Samsung today. And she was like, I did not. I don't get no coin from this. Who put my face on here?
Grant Gibbs
And it's old era Dua. Like, that's not even new Dua at all. Like, this is. This is giving, like, debut era Dua circa 2017.
Lacey Mosley
And I can dance now. I'm not doing that. Same weird body.
Ashley (Ash)
She learns how to dance. And I think Samsung needs to come up with, like, the equivalent of like Roku City. Like a nondescript thing that you could just put on your TVs. You can't be putting IP on this there.
Lacey Mosley
I mean, so this picture was taken during her 2024 Austin City Limits Festival performance. And Dua owns the copyright to the photograph.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, she got their ass. No shade.
Ashley (Ash)
Damn.
Lacey Mosley
She first noticed her appearance on Samsung boxes in June of 2025. Fans on social media started posting about it, describing it as the Dua Lipa TV box. Now she does have brand deals with Puma Versa, Yves Laurent, Apple, Porsche and Chanel, but not Samsung. Samsung apparently ignored repeat demands to cease and desist from infringing on her rights. They said this TV's selling too good, baby.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, that's funny as fuck. They're like, we're. We sorry, girl, but we're not taking it off the shelves. I don't know what you want us to do about that. It's already at the Best Buys. Like, what you want us to tell Best Buy? Like, it would be a hassle.
Ashley (Ash)
It would. I mean, in the grand, grand scheme of things, to a corporation like, Samsung is $15 million, like that big of a deal to them.
Lacey Mosley
Like, they probably made more selling her face on the TV box.
Grant Gibbs
Right, right.
Ashley (Ash)
They should just settle. Settle with Dua.
Grant Gibbs
And I can't even lie like I am a Dua. Stan. If I was in Best Buy, perusing the aisles and I saw Dua Lipa tv, it would draw my attention. So get her her coin.
Ashley (Ash)
She should get her coin.
Lacey Mosley
I would look immediately, immediately at that TV. I said, oh, I can see. Do it in 4K. Yeah, don't mind if I do her.
Grant Gibbs
Don't mind if I do her.
Ashley (Ash)
She's a. Did you guys see? She's. She's a newlywed. She got married yesterday. You guys see that? She's a new.
Lacey Mosley
Congratulations. Gonna pay for your wedding girl.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes, she is.
Lacey Mosley
And you still gonna be on that tv. They not letting you go. They not letting you go. It's like with pharmaceutical companies where a few people die on the prescription medication, they get sued, they pay it out, but the drug stays on the market.
Grant Gibbs
Exactly.
Ashley (Ash)
I think that's t. That's a great business model.
Grant Gibbs
She needs the money to continue to travel. You know, I think that's really important for her to continue that lifestyle.
Lacey Mosley
A spokesperson for Samsung did say that Dua's image was used in 2025 to reflect the content of our third party partners that are available on Samsung TVs and was originally provided by a company content partner for our free streaming service. So they said it's not us. The content partner that we partner with gave us the photo and then we so call them.
Grant Gibbs
So they took a screenshot and they put it. They took a screenshot of their homepage and basically just put it on their box. Okay.
Lacey Mosley
I mean, they say it wasn't us. So DU reps say using her image has caused and continues to cause dilution of her brand identity and commercial goodwill by falsely conveying to the consuming public that she approves and indicates, endorses Samsung TVs. I have Samsung TVs. They're good TVs.
Grant Gibbs
They are. It's one thing if it was. What. What's that TV called? I don't know. What's a busted TV?
Lacey Mosley
Oh, what's a busted TV like?
Grant Gibbs
I mean, the Roku brand TVs aren't always that great. Used to be T, though.
Lacey Mosley
We was in college. Vizio got us through college. Okay.
Ashley (Ash)
Right.
Grant Gibbs
And Vizio, I feel like, was one of the first flat screens. Were y' all tuned into TVs like I was.
Lacey Mosley
It was skinny. It was skinny. I was tuned into TVs because my parents are very into TVs, which I'm now realizing that as I'm Saying this to y' all because, like, any new TV that came out, we had it. I remember the first, like, big screen TVs that came out. They were like full size and they had a booty in the back.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
Yes and yes. And that was right when TiVo came out. I'll never forget that. TiVo came out right in time for the super bowl where Justin Timber, like, ripped out Jet Janet Jackson titty. And we had T. So we was like, was that a titty? And we were all having a watch party at the house. So they rewinded it on The T was like, damn, that is a titty. Paused it, rewinded it, Paused it, rewinded it. Honestly, I think that TiVo is the real reason why Janet Jackson got so much backlash is because a lot of out there could pause and be like, yeah, that is a titty.
Ashley (Ash)
That is maybe T plans it conspiracy. Yeah.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Ashley (Ash)
She should.
Grant Gibbs
For damages. If it didn't exist, maybe it wouldn't have even been that big of a thing.
Ashley (Ash)
Right? Thanks, T. It would have been like
Lacey Mosley
a flash, and we would have been like, what was that?
Ashley (Ash)
Right?
Lacey Mosley
We were like, what was that? TiVo was like, I tell you. Oh, my goodness. So do you think that Samsung is destroying Dua? Lipa? Are they scamming Dua Lipa? They are scamming her because they're using her likeness without her permission. But is it hurting her brand?
Ashley (Ash)
I don't think it's hurting her brand, but if I were her, I'd be pissed. And I. I'd expect you to cash me a check because you're using my likeness to sell your tv.
Grant Gibbs
I'm obsessed with, like, both sides of it. Like, I think Dua, like, it makes sense and it's valid, but I'm obsessed with Samsung. Like, just not answering, ignoring it.
Lacey Mosley
They left you all red.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. Like, they're like, honey, we're Samsung. We get your dual Lipa.
Ashley (Ash)
But we're Sam Samsung.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. Like, wake it up. We do TVs, phones. They do it all. Like, yeah, this little box is gonna bother us. No, no, no.
Lacey Mosley
We're keeping it on the show and we're doing great.
Grant Gibbs
And we're gonna make some restock of it, too. With the bigger. With a bigger screen.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah. Put out some newer.
Grant Gibbs
It would be funny, as if they released a new one, and it's just a different picture of Dua
Ashley (Ash)
they keep.
Grant Gibbs
I love how unbothered they are. Like, it's really funny, but, like, yeah, I feel like they probably should run her a check, especially if she owns the photo, I don't know.
Ashley (Ash)
And I really do think $15 million is nothing to Samsung.
Lacey Mosley
Like, I'm sure this. And they've already made that selling.
Ashley (Ash)
Do it exactly.
Lacey Mosley
Do a vision.
Ashley (Ash)
It's doing.
Grant Gibbs
They need to just settle. They need to settle.
Ashley (Ash)
Just settle. Work it out.
Grant Gibbs
No one's wrong. No one's wrong. But let's subtle.
Lacey Mosley
And I do understand, like, if you're this caliber celebrity and the brands that you're endorsing are like, Chanel, very high fashion, very high end, respected brand. Apple, very expensive, respected. You say Laurent. You know, like, all of those are kind of high end. So duo might be looking at Samsung, like, why I got my face on this box for cut CO9.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Ashley (Ash)
Because there are certain celebrities, Sydney Sweeney, who will take any brand deal she could get, and I feel like it kind of cheapens your brand brand. So Dua's got to be careful about.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, Dua's very luxury and Lux and Samsung.
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, luxurious.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. And she's partnered with tech already. And it's Apple. It's not going to be Samsung. Mama.
Lacey Mosley
Oh, City Sweeney's like, I will sell my bath water.
Grant Gibbs
No, literally, Sydney Sweeney's partnering with Vizio as we speak on a box.
Ashley (Ash)
And for some reason, she's gonna be naked on it.
Lacey Mosley
It's just like, yeah, she's gonna be naked. And there's like a really up close shot on the back. That's just her coochie. Why is there a pink on the back of this box?
Ashley (Ash)
And she'll probably be saying something vaguely racist like, that's gonna be Sydney.
Grant Gibbs
And it'll sell. And you know what? It'll sell.
Ashley (Ash)
Unfortunately, it's gonna sell.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
Do you want to see white skin lighter and brighter than ever? Physio by Sydney Sweeney. The master race tv.
Grant Gibbs
Like the pink pussy on the back. That's crazy. That's who it's gonna be.
Ashley (Ash)
Damn.
Lacey Mosley
Oh, my God. Oh, well, we're gonna wrap things up here. So before we go, Lego pasta swap, huh? So a guy used pasta to steal $34,000 worth of Lego sets. So police in LA arrested Jerell Augustine for buying $34,000 worth of Star wars and Marvel Lego sets, replacing the bricks and minifigs inside with dried felucci pasta. Pasta and returning the boxes to the stores.
Ashley (Ash)
Oh, did he paint the pasta?
Lacey Mosley
I feel like the pasta has the same kind of weight and shape of a Lego.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, for sure.
Lacey Mosley
So it sound like the Lego up in there when it's not. Now some of these Lego sets, because I'm talking about the Star Wars Legos, the Marvel Legos. They can run more than $500 a day. So Jerrel targeted targets in Texas, Tennessee, New Jersey, and Florida. And for the most part, the returns worked. Now, you. You targeted target. So as. As a DEI myself, I'm not really mad. I'm not really mad. Jarrell.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, I'm not too mad about this.
Grant Gibbs
So he's.
Lacey Mosley
I've never met a white Jarrell, so I'm. It's giving. It's giving. You're a part of my race.
Grant Gibbs
So was. He was taking the boxes. Unbox. Did he buy them at first and then would unbox them and then return them to get the money back?
Ashley (Ash)
And was he then building all these Star wars sets? What was he doing with all. Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
What did he want these Legos? That. Because. That. Because you're right, because if he's buying it, stealing the Legos and returning it, essentially, he's only getting the money back that he paid and stealing the product. So how is he making a coin off?
Ashley (Ash)
Well, maybe then he's reset. He's reselling.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, but even if you resell it, you have to resell it in, like, a janky sort of package. Like, it's not going to be the glossy.
Ashley (Ash)
He's probably not reselling it for face value, but he already got his money back. So even if he's selling it for 50% what he paid, he's still profiting,
Lacey Mosley
but he's still a Ziploc bag full of the Star wars set.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, yeah. You guys, he's. Jerrel is just thinking.
Grant Gibbs
No, I. The. Have you the LEGO sets?
Lacey Mosley
He's thinking outside of the box.
Ashley (Ash)
He's thinking outside the box. Literally inside the LEGO box.
Grant Gibbs
Right. But. But part of, like, I think getting a fancy LEGO set is getting that box. Like, the box is really sort of, like, magical.
Lacey Mosley
Well, apparently, Ashley's right. There is a LEGO black market.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes. Because they're hard to come by. Like. Like, Legos are really expensive.
Grant Gibbs
Like, the collector's ones are really crazy
Ashley (Ash)
at, you know, half price. If I just wasn't getting the box, what the hell do I care? I'm gonna buy. Build the Death Star.
Lacey Mosley
If I had some unemployed roommates, AKA children, I would never buy them Legos. I wouldn't let them see. I would block LEGO on all their devices. Because stepping on a Lego is some of the worst foot pain you can ever have.
Ashley (Ash)
It's horrible, and, like, it makes a damn mess, and it's an expensive hobby. For your child to have. Just tell him to go outside.
Grant Gibbs
I think he was so crafty, though, to, like, act like he was doing something good by returning it, in a way. And. And he, like. He was smart to put pasta back in the box.
Ashley (Ash)
He was smart. He was a.
Lacey Mosley
Pasta makes the right rattling noises to suggest Legos are in there.
Ashley (Ash)
I think he was, like, being smart. I think he was being innovative. And you know what? At the end of the day, I don't really care if Target lost $34,000 or whatever it was. What the hell do I care?
Lacey Mosley
The only people I care about are the collectors or the parents for the unemployed roommates who bought. Because, you know, they put it back on the shelf and they bought the Lego set.
Ashley (Ash)
Imagine.
Lacey Mosley
Imagine it's Christmas and.
Grant Gibbs
And your baby, you got a Death Star.
Lacey Mosley
Unwrapping the Death Star Lego and is elated and then opens it up. It's just a bunch of police.
Ashley (Ash)
Okay.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, my God. That is so sad.
Ashley (Ash)
There were victims in this.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, that is sad. That would happen to me. But then I feel like Lego's a good enough company. They'd probably make it. Right. Wait, and then does it make it look like Lego did this? Like, there was a mishap at the factory? Who the hell put pasta in my stomach? Death Star.
Ashley (Ash)
It was just Jarrell.
Grant Gibbs
It was just. Yeah.
Lacey Mosley
So Jarell was arrested after Irvine police tracked him to his apartment, where they found a bunch of Lego sets and components consistent with the alleged. The fraud. So they found empty Barilla boxes, Lego sets.
Grant Gibbs
Okay. Why do they act so fast on these sorts of crimes, but they can't, like, solve a murder.
Ashley (Ash)
Right. I don't know what happened to Nancy Guthrie, but we can find out about the pasta fraud.
Lacey Mosley
We tracked down the. The Legos.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah. Like, and they probably. They probably solved it real fast. But also, Jerel, like, I am kind of feeling sympathy for you, like, supporting, supportive of you a bit. And I think we need to, like, be more aware of, like, the paper trail we're causing or, like, the digital trail. Like, you're walking in and then you're going back and returning them. Just keep. I think just, oh, he wants his money back. I think you can figure something out.
Lacey Mosley
Being a little diligent. He was going to different states. He was in Tennessee. He was in Texas. He was in Florida. You know, he really. He made the rounds to make sure that it was spread out. New Jersey as well.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, our home state. Our home state. Maybe our home target was. Was hit, hopefully.
Lacey Mosley
So with this arrest, Jerrel does join the hall of fame of the growing LEGO brick black market.
Grant Gibbs
I'm here for it.
Ashley (Ash)
I. I need to learn more about this black market. Right.
Lacey Mosley
Do I need to be on it?
Grant Gibbs
Right.
Lacey Mosley
How much are we making?
Grant Gibbs
Because you could probably sell some maybe old Lego sets you have, you know, like if we're into it.
Lacey Mosley
I don't have LEGO sets.
Grant Gibbs
Do you?
Ashley (Ash)
At my house in New Jersey, I believe my family has hot Hogwarts. We got Hogwarts.
Grant Gibbs
Oh, that could probably go. Yeah. I knew someone who had a replica of the Titanic in his bedroom and it was a hookup. It was a hookup. Actually. I didn't actually really know him. I walked into his room.
Ashley (Ash)
Did you go through with it?
Grant Gibbs
Unfortunately.
Lacey Mosley
Does it turn you on or off?
Grant Gibbs
Off a bit. Because then you start looking around. He has smaller sort of like models as well of different things.
Ashley (Ash)
But Titanic.
Grant Gibbs
And I'm not. No, of just various other sorts of like it's these collectors sets. But the Titanic one was huge. I have never seen anything like it. It probably was six feet long. Six, maybe three feet big. It was big. It was huge. Like this must have taken like a little mini boat.
Lacey Mosley
It's a. No.
Ashley (Ash)
I would be hot and bothered horned up if I walked into a man's room and he had a six foot Titanic.
Lacey Mosley
That makes my wet.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, I would be soaked. Soaked like the Titanic.
Grant Gibbs
No, I think it is cute. It's endearing. It is, it's cute.
Ashley (Ash)
But I don't know if I like
Lacey Mosley
a man who has a boring hobby.
Ashley (Ash)
Me too.
Lacey Mosley
Because if you, if you make a. If I go into your bedroom for sexuals and I see a ship in a bottle. Oh, we fuck. Right? Yeah. Cause like you got a little nerdy meticulous hobby. You not on 4chan. You not harassing women.
Grant Gibbs
Yeah, that's true.
Lacey Mosley
You like the simple things in life, right?
Ashley (Ash)
Some men are like streaming in the manosphere and then some are building Titanic lamps, Legos. And which one do you want to get railed by?
Lacey Mosley
All in all, I think this episode is proving that we all need to reinstate our Facebook pages because that is where the mess is happening.
Ashley (Ash)
That's where the dramas happen.
Lacey Mosley
And I want to be involved.
Ashley (Ash)
Me too.
Lacey Mosley
Yes.
Grant Gibbs
And I'm starting a towing company.
Ashley (Ash)
Yes.
Grant Gibbs
So.
Ashley (Ash)
And a streamer and a skincare brand.
Lacey Mosley
And a streamer and a skincare brand partner Alex Earl. Partnering with Alex Earl.
Ashley (Ash)
Absolutely.
Lacey Mosley
So we've reached the end of a fantastic episode. Grant, Ash, thank you both so much for being here.
Grant Gibbs
Here.
Lacey Mosley
You guys have the best energy of so lovely chatting with you. And we always ask at the end of our show, where would you like to be found? Nathan, you want to plug any socials? All of those good things.
Grant Gibbs
Yes. You can follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Twink, and a Redhead. There's some underscores in the spaces. You can figure it out.
Ashley (Ash)
Yeah, you'll figure it out.
Grant Gibbs
Or if you want to come see us irl. We are on tour with our original musical comedy it is a Hoots. And yeah, coming to a city near you. You can find that in the link in our bio. Yeah, wake it up.
Lacey Mosley
And as always, you can follow the page. If y' all want to jump scare, go to Scam Goddess Pod and we're gonna put some mayoral jump scares on there.
Ashley (Ash)
Be careful.
Lacey Mosley
Yes. All the photos from the episode. And then if you want to follow me and my shenanigans, D I V A L A C I D on all platforms. If you want to watch Scam Goddess, which apparently Grant is also involved in, which I love, and so on.
Ashley (Ash)
Who Hulu.
Lacey Mosley
All episodes streaming now. And you can get my book Scam Goddess anywhere books are sold. Or you can get the audiobook. Yes. Congregation, I want y' all to get out there and stay.
Grant Gibbs
Stay Towing.
Lacey Mosley
Towing. Oh, my God. You're in my dad's. I was gonna say stay towing. Okay. DIY tow. We need to get more people in the toe field. It's too gated. Get. Get yourself a hook and start toes.
Ashley (Ash)
Let's make.
Grant Gibbs
Let's make towing gay. Get yourself a hook. Make towing gay again and let's get towing. Come on it.
Lacey Mosley
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Podcast: Scam Goddess
Host: Laci Mosley
Guests: Grant Gibbs & Ashley (“Ash”), a.k.a. “A Twink and a Redhead”
In this lively and irreverent episode, Laci Mosley welcomes viral TikTok comedy duo Grant Gibbs and Ashley to serve up hot takes on scams present in everyday life and cultural fixtures. They dissect the fine (often scamming) lines of things like towing, streaming subscriptions, and celebrity skincare in classic Scam Goddess style—hilarious, opinionated, and rooted in lived experience. The group also breaks down a parade of recent scammy news stories, including the Spencer Pratt mayoral circus, mayoral small-town drama, a Lego-and-pasta heist, and Dua Lipa’s legal battle with Samsung.
(03:09 – 32:01)
(36:22 – 84:40)
On Streaming:
“If you're not watching your show on time, that's on you, boo.”
— Laci Mosley (12:34)
On Towing:
“Once I have your car, my rules. You know what I mean?”
— Grant Gibbs (04:19)
On Skin Care Marketing:
“Never in my life have I put my hands in a cup under the sink and then splashed water on my face. Who’s cleaning the bathroom after this?”
— Laci Mosley (31:38)
On Celebrity Politicians:
“I don't think reality stars in general should be able to run for office. It shows your intentions are off.”
— Grant Gibbs (44:33)
On Corporate Lawlessness:
“We excuse horrific human behavior for business. It’s business, it’s strictly business... Just give and take. Give a little money, not enough. And take a life.”
— Laci Mosley (66:32)
On the LEGO Scam:
“He was smart to put pasta back in the box. Pasta makes the right rattling noises to suggest Legos are in there.”
— Laci Mosley & Ashley (80:05)
On Brand Deals:
“Some celebrities (Sydney Sweeney)... will take any brand deal she can get, and I feel like it kind of cheapens your brand.”
— Ashley (75:41)
The episode is high-energy, quick-witted, and full of pop-culture references, cutting asides, and good-natured dragging (of scammers, celebrities, and, occasionally, each other!). Laci’s hosting is forthright, playful, and full of personal anecdotes, which blends seamlessly with her guests’ improvisational comedic style.
This episode of Scam Goddess is a zany romp through America’s scammy cultural landscape, from nuisance tow truck companies to pseudo-populist mayors, from the streaming glut to celebrity skincare ruses. It’s packed with savvy analysis, personal confessions, and plenty of quotable punchlines. Whether you’re a “con-gregation” regular or a first-time listener, you’ll laugh, you’ll nod, and you’ll never look at a box of Legos—or a streaming subscription—the same way again.
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Laci’s Sign-Off:
“Stay towing!” — with Grant chiming in, “Let’s make towing gay again!” (86:08)
For more, follow @scamgoddesspod. Stay schemin’, con-gregation!