The Crazy Covid Vaccine Caper with Jason Concepcion

Summary

Scam Goddess Episode Summary:

"The Crazy Covid Vaccine Caper" with Jason Concepcion (March 9, 2021)

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Overview

In this laugh-out-loud episode, host Laci Mosley ("Scam Goddess") welcomes podcast legend and “scammer-adjacent” Jason Concepcion for a wild ride through service industry scams, personal stories of petty fraud, and an in-depth comedic dissection of the infamous “Philly Fighting Covid” vaccine caper. Together, they unpack how a group of college kids with no medical background—led by the audacious Andre Dorshin—managed to get a city’s blessing to distribute life-saving vaccines. The episode explores the intersection of hustling, public incompetence, and the very American art of the scam, all while celebrating the ingenuity (and recklessness) of aspiring con artists.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. Jason’s Scammer Origin Story & Philosophy

(00:00–08:25)

• Personal Scammer History:

  • Jason cracks, “I’m a writer and a podcast[er], so my entire career is a scam.” (01:29)
  • Shares growing up in a Long Island “deep culture of scamming” and being surrounded by petty con artistry.

• Legendary Revenge:

  • Tells the story of his mom catching her NYPD detective husband cheating, setting a trap, and serving him divorce papers on live TV.
    • “Who is waiting there but a pixelated woman who I just knew was my mom… and she serves him the divorce papers right there on the dock.” (04:15)
  • Laci and Jason riff on the artfulness of his mother’s “scam-back.”

• Attitude Towards Scammers:

  • Both agree—certain kinds of scams (“victimless,” or those against exploitative corporations) are worthy of respect.
    • “If you’re scamming Big Daddy Corporation, or you’re getting coins from somebody who’s definitely exploiting you, then I am absolutely for that scam.” (07:55)

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2. Listener Letter: “Eduardo’s Coffee Refill Hustle”

(08:10–18:00)

• The Scam:

  • Listener Eduardo ran a low-stakes grift at a Philly hotel, charging extra for free coffee refills and pocketing the cash.
  • Jason and Laci share their own service industry hustles:
    • Jason: “I worked at movie theaters where the only way you could possibly make money was by scams, various kinds of scams.” (07:55)
    • Laci: “That’s the great thing about being a bartender in New York—you do not have any customer service skills. You own the night.” (15:09)

• Workplace Ethics:

  • Discussion on customer entitlement (stories about “regulars”) and tipping culture.
  • The pair joke about the creative (and sometimes necessary) ways workers get theirs in underpaid jobs.
    • “We have to scrape. We have to steal from our employers in order to live out here.” (14:15)

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3. Historic Hoodwinks: “Philly Fighting Covid” Vaccine Grift

(20:40–54:00)

The Set-Up

• The Players:

  • Drexel psych graduate Andre Dorshin (age “22”—but both hosts question this, noting he looks older) forms a nonprofit, Philly Fighting Covid, to take on vaccine distribution with NO healthcare experience and an all-college friend staff (“tech skills”).

• The Pitch:

  • PowerPoint rooftop presentation laying out a plan to vaccinate up to 1.5 million people.
  • Marketing scheme includes using Meek Mill as a local-culture ambassador.
    • Laci: “If there’s anybody I trust to fight Covid, it’s y’all. Philly has hands for the virus!” (22:08)
  • Andre’s wild “Elon Musk, shooting for the heavens” rhetoric. (31:14)

• The Grift Mechanisms:

  • Philly Fighting Covid registered with CDC and got city approval, received real vaccine doses.
  • They charged $24 a dose to insurance, with public health as a “private coin” project.
  • “Calling it a startup is so brilliant because when you’re a startup, you have very little online presence…” (29:01)

The Meet/Cute Disaster

• Operational Fiascos:

  • Vaccination events with uncontrolled access; anyone with a link could get a shot—even if not eligible.
  • Claimed they "lost" demographic data of vaccinated people due to “a glitch in the Amazon cloud.”
    • “So they said, Alexa, tell us how many Black people are here. And Alexa was like, I can’t see.” (40:39)
  • City kept handing out more doses despite lost data.
  • When pressed for demographic info, they deferred: “I got that in my other hold…in my car, next to a vat of melting vaccine.” (39:08)

• Vaccine Mismanagement & Public Fallout:

  • Elderly and essential workers getting turned away, unused doses given to friends.
  • Andre reportedly pocketed extra vaccine vials, denying then admitting (on NBC’s Today Show) that he administered shots to his girlfriend himself.

• Crisis PR & The Fallout:

  • Philly Fighting Covid reorganizes as a for-profit “Vax Populi.”
  • City officials cut ties, claiming “dirty power politics.” (52:25)
  • Laci: “Andre, when people catch you jingle jangling when you leave the COVID site, ‘cause you got vials in your pocket…this is not possible politics, I think you were doing crime.” (52:26)

• Lasting Scammer Bravado:

  • Andre insists, “If I had the chance, I wouldn’t do anything different.” (54:03)
    • Laci: “He has no remorse…this is America.” (54:11)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Laci on Startup Culture:
  • “The only thing he left out was the black turtleneck. If he had showed up in the black turtleneck, he would be giving Silicon [Valley] look.” (31:42)
• Jason:
  • “This reminds me of Theranos, the great Theranos game…Pure, pure vibes.” (33:56)
• Laci on government oversight:
  • “We were missing a lot of oversight…a lot of undersight.” (36:42)
• On pandemic-era America:
  • “Americans go American—there’s one thing we gonna do, it’s American.” (42:28)

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4. Scammer of the Week: Kevin Hart’s Personal Shopper

(56:12–63:28)

• The Scam:

  • Dylan Jason Sire, Hart’s trusted shopper since 2015, racks up over $1M in unauthorized purchases—luxury handbags, art collectibles, and $400k in watches.
  • Laci: “I can’t imagine being so rich I can’t notice a million dollars leave my bank account.” (58:00)
  • Cautionary notes on employee theft and paying people fairly:
    • “If you pay somebody well enough…they probably won’t steal from you because they want to keep their job.” (61:16)

• Closing Remarks:

  • Discussion of how even the famous must stay vigilant about their money and reputation.
  • Playful Morgan Freeman/“Shawshank” narration about Kevin Hart discovering his loss. (63:28)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jason’s scammer roots, revenge story: 01:17–06:53
• Service industry scams & Eduardo’s Coffee Hustle: 08:42–18:09
• Movie theater scam confession: 18:09
• Philly Fighting Covid caper begins (Historic Hoodwinks): 20:50
  • “How did they get the gig?” 20:50–26:03
  • “The startup’s PowerPoint, eligibility, and lack of records” 28:00–41:51
  • “Vaccine mismanagement and fallout” 41:51–54:00
• Scammer of the Week: Kevin Hart’s shopper: 56:12–63:28

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Conclusion

This episode is a comedic master class in both the art and absurdity of American scams, from service worker hustles to the COVID vaccine debacle. Laci’s quick wit and Jason’s confessions provide sharp commentary on the social and systemic failures that enable grifts, all while keeping the tone irreverent and unflinchingly honest. Whether discussing how to recognize a scammer (“sometimes you just need costumes and good PowerPoint”) or calling out public officials, “The Crazy Covid Vaccine Caper” offers both catharsis and cathartic laughter in chaotic times.

Memorable Sign-off:
Laci: “If you are a young white man out here and you listen to this show, if you haven’t started your own startup and tried to [scam] the government, baby, what is you doing with that?” (54:11)

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Con-Gregation, stay schemin’!

Transcript

[A]

Scams C. Robbery and fraud. Scams. CA Robbery and fraud. Scam Goddess. What's poppin, Congregation? Welcome to another installment of Scam Goddess. I am your host, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And you guys already know. You already know God. Go ahead and say it. Yeah. Y' all said it. Yes. I'm very excited. Yes. For our guest today. I really am. Because if you haven't followed network on Twitter. This man's Twitter account is so amazing, so fire. That's how I met him. This is my first time seeing him virtually in real life, honey. So I'm so excited. You guys know him from the very popular podcast Binge Mode, which is exclusively still available on Spotify. He has a new show coming to the girls. Okay. A pod called takeline with Renee Montgomery. Also, he has a YouTube show called all caps. Guys, so excited to have here the one and only Jason Concepcion.

[B]

Oh, my God, it's so good to be here, finally. I just need to get my knowledge of these scams off my chest. After all these years, it's weighing on me.

[A]

Yes. This is the place to have a testimony. We want your testimony.

[B]

I cannot wait.

[A]

Okay, so, Jason, what's your relationship with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Do you hate scammers? Do you love them? What's your.

[B]

Yeah, well, I mean, like, on a philosophical level, I'm a writer and a podcast, so my entire career is a scam. It happened by accident. I didn't mean to be doing this. I went to school for music. It didn't work out. I was delivering packages. I started a Twitter account. It took off. Then somebody emailed me after a little while and was like, do you want to. Can you write? Do you want to try and write stuff? And I went, of course. Yes. I am a writer. I know.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

I know how to write. And then I bought a thesaurus and a dictionary, and now I'm still doing it. I'm doing this right now. My history with scams is I'm from Long island, where it is a deep culture of scamming. Everyone out there is scamming something. Some kind of. I learned about pyramid schemes in grade school. I've been scamming this whole time. I know people who scam. My mom is a scammer. I can't wait to talk about it.

[A]

Oh, yes. Wait. Okay. You have to tell me how your mom. Well, there's so much in here. 1. I love that you said you became a writer from Twitter, and you were like, yeah, I'VE been writing since I was five. Yeah.

[B]

So, okay. This is why my mom's mine. A hero of mine. So my mom, I had a stepdad, New York City detective, an asshole, really bad guy.

[A]

NYPD Blue.

[B]

NYPD Blue did not like this guy. You wanna talk about the biggest scammers there are? It was him. She find out he was cheating, right?

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

So now. Yeah, she found out he was cheating. So there was a show that Bill O'Reilly used to host called Inside Edition, right? This is back in the day. And so she asked me. She was like. I was young, but she was like, jason, can you set the VCR to tape Inside edition at 6:00'?

[A]

Clock?

[B]

I'm like, okay, why? And she just didn't. She was like, just do it. She's a Filipino lady, has a strong Filipino slash Long Island. She's like, just do it. Okay, okay. I tape it. And so I watch it. I'm going to watch what this is. The very last segment is about this NYPD cop who's cheating on his wife. He's taken his mistress out, like on a cruise around Manhattan.

[A]

No, a cruise.

[B]

A cruise. A dinner cruise around Manhattan. With dinner and with dinner, with everything. They're going to a hotel after cheating, cheating, cheating. And the jilted wife had hired a private detective who had taped the whole thing, sat on the cruise next to them, was taping them. And then the very last scene of this segment on Inside Edition, Hosted by Bill O'Reilly, who, by the way, is from my same town as me on Long island, is. They come off the cruise, they're walking up the dock, and who is waiting there but a pixelated woman who I just knew was my mom. That was her. I could tell it was her. It had the same shape. Even though she was all pixelated, it was 100% her. And she serves him the divorce papers right there on the dock.

[A]

Damn. Okay, so that was a true story because, you know, I used to watch Cheaters and I thought it was real until my homeboy Tony was on Cheaters, and I was like, tony, would you. He was like, look, I gotta get these acting jobs where I can. I said, not cheaters.

[B]

But wait.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead, wait. I have so many questions. So one, your dad was out here cheating, cheating. He taking the girls on Carnival Cruises Stepdad, where fun lives. That's not. That's correct. That's also very bold to do in New York. You can run into anybody in New York City all the time.

[B]

Well, you know how these cops are so we lived out on Long Island. And then he. You know, his precinct was, like, in the Bronx, I think. And so his thing was like, oh, we're working late. You know, it's like we're on an investigation. You know, who knows what he was saying? But he was always just, like. He was just gone for long periods of time. And she figured it out.

[A]

Oh, no. Your daddy was like, girl, it's a lot of black people outside today. I'm gonna be late. I'm gonna be late getting home. A lot of black people out here. I gotta get.

[B]

That is absolutely his attitude, I will tell you right now. Stereotypical NYPD cop. And he talked about it at home. He talked about it. So I was absolutely thrilled when this happened and also shocked. My mom just kept this quiet, set this up, and then sent the tape to Inside Edition. Like, what?

[A]

I stan your mom so hard because she came with the sneak attack. Okay? She put on. She went to Party City, got herself a wig and said, I'm about to pull up on this boat. Oh, y' all getting shrimp cocktail? Let me get some. I'll be right here with these divorce papers. Yeah, it was.

[B]

It was one of the most heroic things I've ever seen. And then so I taped it. I gave it to her, and I was like. I watched it. She was like, my God, you watch it. This is what I did to him. And she just went, she can talk about it. Believe me. She sent the tape to all her friends. Like, believe me. She put it out there. Let it be known that she did that.

[A]

He scammed her. Okay? Love is a scam. We've talked about that. And he scammed her, and she got him back. And I'm so proud of your mom. Okay? She could be scammer in a week. Cause that's hilarious. I love that she also taped it and was like, yeah, can I get copies? Mm, vhs. I can get some Blu Ray. Okay. We can put this in Blockbuster if y' all want. Okay. Okay. Netflix.

[B]

I wish she still had it. I asked her the other day, like, do you still have that tape? She has no idea where it is. But I. Oh, my God. If I could find it today, I would put it on YouTube. This.

[A]

I would never let that go. I would absolutely never let that go. We all never, ever. I stay your mom. Okay, Dope. So I'm guessing that you're probably more on the side of the scammers now. Look, we support some scammers. Some scammers, we don't. It depends on the hoodwink that's right.

[B]

That's correct.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, I mean, listen, I waited tables for many years, especially cater waitering in New York City, and that's. The whole thing is a scam. I worked at movie theaters where, you know, right out of high school, where the only way you could possibly make money was by scams, various kinds of scams. Now, these were victimless crimes as far as I'm concerned. Most of the time, if it's a victimless crime, people just trying to get a little extra money. I'm on the side of the scammers.

[A]

I am, too. Also, if it's like you're scamming Big Daddy Corporation or you're getting coins from somebody who's definitely exploiting you, then I am absolutely for that scam.

[B]

However,

[A]

some of those do not meet our requirements.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

And that's okay. That's absolutely fine. Well, let's get into our first segment here. It's called what's Hot in Fraud? And that's when we will warn our listeners about what scams are popping in the Zeitgeist. Or we will get a letter from one of you guys, which is mostly what we do these days, and we'll see what scams y' all are up to. As always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, scamgodesspodmail.com just make sure your scam is retired, because we do not want to fuck up your bag. Amen.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

So let's get into it. Jason, I need a name.

[B]

Eduardo.

[A]

Eduardo. Okay, Eduardo. So Eduardo says, love the pot. Oh, this is some nice stuff. I'm gonna skip that, Eduardo. But I do appreciate you, King. Thank you.

[B]

So wait, is he praising you right now? Let's hear it. I want.

[A]

No, I don't read the praise. No, I can't cut it out. They want to be entertained. But Eduardo says so. A scam I used to run when I was in my mid-20s and worked for a major hotel in Philadelphia was I was hired to work in a restaurant, but would frequently work the coffee bar when the regular person called off or was on vacation. The coffee bar was called Perks, and it was a depressing hotel lobby coffee bar. Oh, yeah. It's probably not a lot of foot traffic. It says the only highlight is that we brewed Starbucks coffee, but it was not an official Starbucks store. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So no frappuccinos or iced teas, which. That is a lot of extra work when you got to make foam. Fuck foam. Working in the Service industry. So much shitty foam, bro.

[B]

It's absolutely the worst.

[A]

So coffee was 350 and we only had one size coffee. Refills were complimentary. However, being in a high end hotel, I made the executive decision to charge for refills and park at the cash. I love it. Yo, Eduardo, you're so trifling for this. People already paid top dollar, now you charging them 350 up top. You rude.

[B]

350 is not bad for the coffee. Scarbo coffee. That's not bad. I go to Vegas. If you go to Vegas and get a Starbucks at Vegas, it's like $12, $13, 350. That's not bad.

[A]

And they don't refills at Starbucks. I've never been able to go in there and be like, top off my caramel macchiato. They don't do that.

[B]

Listen, I'm glad you brought up foam, because one of my many jobs is working as a barista. And the people who care about their foam are the worst people. Do you ever have somebody tell you that they want their foam a specific temperature?

[A]

No. How am I even supposed to measure that? Bitch, we got meat thermometers back here. Where you think you at?

[B]

I've had people tell me they need their foam, like exactly 120 degrees. It's got to be exactly that. I'm just like, what, are you kidding me right now?

[A]

And they have a mouth oven. They can tell.

[B]

They.

[A]

They can tell somehow they got a mouth monitor. Okay, I guess. You know what, though? I will say people who have specific coffee orders in general, I truly can't stand. If you're coming in there and you're like, I need a half wrap, double shot espresso, three pumps up. It's like, baby girl, baby girl, who was the first idiot who made you that?

[B]

You better be tipping. That's my thing. Working at a place at. Working at a bakery where you. Where you get pastries for people and you're a barista and there's a big line. I'll tell you right now, the worst people are the people who come in every day because they have this sense of entitlement. Like, you know, my face, you know what I need, you know exactly my coffee drink. And then they'll just tip you like a nickel because they think that you're having a great time just hanging out with them.

[A]

Right?

[B]

What are you doing?

[A]

It's always shocking to me how out of touch people can be. Truly. Also, I've hated regulars in any job I've ever had. Rarely do. I like a regular regular.

[B]

This is the worst, right?

[A]

You always have to. I used to have a regular at the sushi restaurant that I worked at where he didn't like to use chopsticks, or rather, he didn't know how. So I had to put on those kid chopstick helpers.

[B]

Are you kidding?

[A]

And they had to be preset before he arrived. He had his preset kid Chopstick Helpers. He liked Yamazaki 13 Scotch. Like, I just had to have like, all this stuff. Yeah, it was like 50 or something. It was like $300 a glass. And I would just have to have this shit, like, laid out for him before he arrived. And if I didn't, he would be pissed. And I'm like, bitch, where do you think you at? Like, this is a restaurant.

[B]

I had this regular who I didn't know he was a regular. I just started at this bakery job, and he wanted every day he got a sourdough roll, toasted. That's like 30 cents. And then he wanted the butter placed near the toaster so it would melt in that little tin foil packet and so that he could just easily spread it on. And I didn't. I didn't know that. That's such a weird thing to do. First of all, tip nothing on 30 cents. He brought in a quarter and a nickel, and that's how he'd pay. And I didn't know it. And he got heated. He got mad at me like, nobody tells you that you're supposed to do this. I didn't know. You could have explained it to me.

[A]

Also, like, if you don't get your bitch ass out of here with your quarter and your nickel. I can't even use half. What? I can put half of that in a meter. What am I supposed to do with a nickel? Get the out of here. No, absolutely not. Also, the entitlement of, like, I have to warm your butter, bitch, for 30 cents. You've lost your goddamn mind. You better take this ice cold butter and smile, bitch. Okay, sit on it. Sit on it with your broke ass. Okay. Like 30 cents. You can. I'm sorry you can't be extra for 30 cents. At least my guy wanted a $300 drink. Yeah, he tipped. But for 30 cents. You kissed my whole black ass, yo. That's wild. Not. Not. He wanted warmth. I can't stand people. I hate America. Only in America do we do this.

[B]

Only in America.

[A]

Because everywhere else, it's like, you go to a. Like, especially in the uk, you go to a restaurant, it's like going to a clothing store. They're like, hey, girl, what do you want? You see anything you like? Because, like, they get paid. They get paid wage.

[B]

And then. Yeah, and they'll tell. You know, people will be like, hey, don't tip. Because it will be insulting to them because they actually make money off of this. They think that you just giving them a handout for doing a job that they get paid for.

[A]

Right. People had to tell me that, too. They were like, oh, you don't have to tip. And I was still tipped most of the time, but they were like, you don't have to do that here. I was like, oh. Cause y' all take care of y' all employees. Oh, I'm from America. We don't do that.

[B]

We don't do that. We don't do that. We have to scrape. We have to steal from our employers

[A]

in order to live out here. Not only do we tip in America, but then we put some coins in the healthcare jar on our way out. We like, here y' all go. Hope y' all get some. Hope y' all could get a checkup this year. Like, oh, y' all raising money for Keith's dental. Okay, here's. I hope this could give him a feeling. God bless him. All right, I'll be back to Panera Bread next week. Like, how many.

[B]

How many places have you, like, waitered service job that, like, what are. What are. Just. What's the range?

[A]

Okay, the range goes from high end. Well, like mid high end because it was expensive and high end. But, like, really high end places, they make you wear, like, fucking tuxes and shit. And like, yeah, you know, people work there for life. And then. So that. Where you have to memorize wine lists and taste food the time and do pairings that. And then I've also worked in, like, a dive bar where, like, I got burnt with a cigarette one time.

[B]

Oh, my God. And.

[A]

Cause you can smoke inside. I think you can still. It's the only place in New York you can smoke inside. It's called Karma Lounge. And when I got burnt with a cigarette, I was like, you gotta raise the fuck up. And I grabbed the bouncer. Cause I was a little ratchet. And he was like, no. He was from the uk. He's like, no, please. Like, I'll do anything. And he gets out his wallet. I open his wallet and take all his cash. It was at least $100. I was like, all right, you can stay. Like, we were terrible. We would run everybody's checks up to $40 so that we could auto gratuit them. $8?

[B]

Hell yeah. Did you have any of your bosses, like, steal tips? Because that was endemic for a lot of my friends that worked in.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Restaurants and stuff.

[A]

I'm sure everybody was stealing. I wasn't stealing because I was making enough money to not really feel like I needed to do crimes. But, you know, we were definitely terrible. That's the great thing about being a bartender in New York is you do not have any customer service skills. You own the night. We used to cuss people out. If you didn't tip, we would scream across the bar, he didn't tip. Don't serve him. We were burning.

[B]

So I. I did. I did all waitering and like, bar backing and. And that kind of stuff for cater waitering places and then, like, events at the bartenders. They were the kings and queens of the city. You couldn't touch. You couldn't tell them shit. They did. Like, they did everything. They did whatever they wanted. They told people to fuck off. They cut people off. They threw people out. They let people in. They were the kings and fucking queens.

[A]

It's amazing. I missed. That was the only thing I missed. Cause then I got into the service side. Cause it was just safer because bartending got a little dangerous. And I remember picking wild berries for a dessert in the Hamptons. Yeah, like, why the fuck was we doing that? I felt like a slave. They was like, y' all get out there and pick them berries for dinner. And I was like. Like, y' all said farm to table. But who do I look like? Old McDonald? Like, I'm not a part of the farm to the table. Literally, I was the farm to table. So I understand the service industry and I feel for y'. All. He. So Eduardo said he did this scam for three years until he found a better job serving rich white folks coffee at 5:00am okay.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Well, good for you, Eduardo.

[B]

Proud of you, Eduardo.

[A]

Proud of you.

[B]

And I'm glad you do.

[A]

I'm glad no one interrupted your scam. Eduardo was also Char. Like, if you didn't have money or you wanted to charge the refill coffee to your room, he'd be like, yeah, charge it up to your room. And he would take the gratuity. Cause most of the time, they'll tip.

[B]

Or

[A]

he was like, yeah, what's your role, Lion King?

[B]

Three years is a long ass time also to run a scam. So shout to him. Because that means that suggests to me that very smartly, Eduardo is not sharing that information with Anybody?

[A]

Hell no.

[B]

Once you have your scam, the biggest threat to your scam is letting other people in on your scam. Because then the news just spreads. People have big mouths. They will just talk about it. Smart of Eduardo to keep it long. He ran that for three years.

[A]

That's beautiful. And 350 a pop. He was probably making coin. Also, there's no inventory. There's no way to check Eduardo. Boo. Because he was allowed to give away free coffee.

[B]

I love it. With a scam we ran at the movie theater was when people would come in, we'd sell them the ticket, then they'd go to the ticket terror and tear the ticket. And you give them the half. We would just take the whole ticket and say, okay, you know, theater 12, please. That whole ticket would go back to the front. And then when people were buying tickets again for the same movie, we'd sell it back to them. Pocket that entire money. Yes.

[A]

Listen, movie theaters are dying right now. And Jason is why. And I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm playing Jason. I'm playing. I would never. I would never judge you. No, I think this is amazing. And also, like, movie theaters don't make their money from that. They make their money from expensive ass popcorn and from expensive ass Red Vines and goddamn snacks that cost $35.

[B]

Yes, that's right. Also, let me tell you, if you ever cleaned a popcorn machine, you would never eat the popcorn again. Really? Yeah, it's. It's.

[A]

So if. So if you. So you cleaned a popcorn machine. So you telling me not to be afraid of the vaccine Because I definitely ate that popcorn.

[B]

100%. Do not be afraid of the vaccine if you have eaten that popcorn with the butter. Because the butter comes in this like wild bag that like, they just inject like a needle into it and it just looks like motor grease.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. A little ratatouille. Listen, we done all ate some rats,

[B]

so we just gotta get over that 100%.

[A]

We all munched on rat.

[B]

Keeps you strong.

[A]

It's not our fault. Yeah, Ain't no wrong with a little side of Mickey Mouse with your burger and fries. We've been there. We all been there. Well, all right, guys, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be back after some non scam apps advertisements scams. And we are back. And it's time for my favorite segment of the show, which is historic hood, which Jason is giving me life over here. Okay, we got a true scammer on the show. I love when this happens like somebody who we can really believe in. Y' all get, get, follow him, get behind him. Because Jason is an icon and we only 20 minutes in. Yes. So, okay, this is our second segment called historic Hoodwinks. If you're new to the show, this is where I will regale Jason with a famous crime caper, A charlatan, a gang of thieves. We don't know what we're gonna get. We'll see and we'll get his opinions all throughout. So let's get started. Let's get it started. Sorry, my tick tock came out of my body. Okay, today we're talking about Andre Dorshin, a 22 year old graduate student and his college friends who attempted to lead a vaccination distribution despite having no background in health care. He created a startup called Philly Fighting Covid.

[B]

How do you. How do you just start a startup? Like, how do you just do it like that? Do you have to take in any documentation or do you just say, I have started this vaccine company with me and my friends. We have no office space, we have no equipment, we have no doctoral degrees, we have no medical coats, we have no stethoscopes, we have no syringes, but

[A]

we are the doctor drip. Yeah. How do you do it?

[B]

Yeah, they gotta have that.

[A]

That's the beauty of a startup. First, yeah, you start it right, and second, you up it and then you gotta start up. That's it. That's all you gotta do. That's the American dream, y'. All. Y' all got a computer. You can have a startup too. Why y' all playing? Okay. I start up every day with some shenanigans. Every day I wake up. So Philly Fighting Covid, honestly, is a very inspiring name to me. I feel like, absolutely. If there's anybody I want to fight Covid, I feel like it would be Philly. Like, it feels like a very dangerous, violent city.

[B]

Yeah, it's a working class city. They're going to teach Covid the lessons learned from a lifetime of hard work.

[A]

Right. Also, just like, have you ever seen, like, the Philadelphia fans for the Philadelphia Eagles? Like, I know you have. Like, they're some of the meanest fans out here. They be beating up their own team. They'll be throwing at them like, you suck. I'm like, that's your teammate, y' all don't. I'm a Cowboys fan, so I hate the Eagles.

[B]

I've seen that. Have you seen that clip of. So there was like a fire or something. Local news was on the scene and this guy was talking about, oh, they were. People were jumping out the windows, and then there was a baby. And they threw the baby out of the window and people caught it. And then he looked at the camera and he said, not like Aguilar, who is wide receiver for the. For the Eagles, who dropped a pass.

[A]

Wow. We talking about saving a baby from a fire. He still managed to drag the Eagles. And you know what? I stand. I love Philadelphia. I love y'. All. If there's anybody I trust to fight Covid, it's y'. All. Y' all got hands. Philly has hands for the virus. Gritty fighting Covid.

[B]

Stop Covid.

[A]

Right, so Philly fighting Covid. I'm into it. It's got a little analogy into it. Tasty, Falls off the tongue. So Andre is a 22 year old graduate student, right. He has a degree in psychology from Drexel. Can I just say. Wow, psychology. Great scam tool if you really want to get into the fine art. Chicanery. Psychology. It's how you learn how people think. You learn how to manipulate them. You know, how to make them, like, make them offerings that will seem tantalizing. You know, he's. He's perfectly equipped, as far as I can see. Wow.

[B]

That's actually really good.

[A]

He has no background in health care.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even before the first coronavirus vaccine was authorized, he made a plan to be involved. Now, this is where I have to say Andre was out here thinking, okay, because meanwhile, all of America's like, we're developing this vaccine, we're developing this vaccine. He was thinking about distribution, which was actually something that our government failed on, which is why everything fail big time, slowly. So, you know, Andre honestly should be working for the government.

[B]

What was it? So what was his distribution plan? It was like, my car and my friend's cars and, like, the mail. Like, what was he gonna do?

[A]

Jason, do not play on Andre's name like that. Do not play him, okay? You thought he was coming at basic. He thought he was giving. I'm sorry, you thought he was giving back out of his Toyota. Like Camry. No, no, no, no, no. Don't play with Andre like that, Jason.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

He's. He's ready. Okay. Next level. Shit. So perfect timing to ask that question, though, because he started this with a group of his college friends who wanted to help out during the pandemic. Help out? They all had tech skills, so they used a 3D printer to make face shields. Then they organized a non profit and called it, yes, Philly fighting Covid. Beautiful. So. Oh, this is when they'll step the game up. Jason, they got something popping for you right now.

[B]

Okay, I can't wait.

[A]

On the evening of October 7th, Andre gathered 15 of his nonprofit staff members. He got a staff, honey, he got a staff. He went on Indeed.com and said, hey, girls, I have a job for you. Listen, this is mid pandemic, right? Everybody's looking for a job. I would have hopped on Monster and

[B]

been like, were they paid? Did he offer college credit? Like, what is happening, child?

[A]

I don't know. We gotta see. But he had a staff, though, of 15. That's a small business. So they were non profit staff members. So that answers your payment thing. Even though non profits can pay people. So maybe he was like, y' all get some coins when we start distributing. Who knows? There's Covid. So, you know, the girls have time. So he had them meet on a rooftop to show them a PowerPoint. Okay. You know, you do PowerPoints on rooftops, you know, sure.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

That's where the best wifi is. How long has it been since you've seen a PowerPoint and somebody was seriously showing you a PowerPoint?

[B]

It's been a minute. Probably within the last two years. But in an office, like in a meeting. Not on a rooftop.

[A]

Not on a roof.

[B]

Like, not crowded around, like one laptop on two milk carts. Milk cartons or whatever. Like on a rooftop with a screen. Like, was there a screen? Was there a projector? I have so many questions about how this was going down.

[A]

And we're gonna get some answers for you. I mean, you know, move pigeons. We are also on the. On the roof giving. Giving information. And I love it. Wait, do we have a video of this presentation? You are playing with me. Okay, so before we play this video, basically, they're on the roof, right? And he also had a live stream of the PowerPoint going simultaneously. So don't play with Jason, okay? He knows how to use the Wi

[B]

Fi live stream to YouTube live stream to Twitch, live stream to Facebook. Where is he going? Like, all platforms. This guy is thinking.

[A]

Yes. So let's see some of that slideshow that he did on PowerPoint. I wonder if he used clip art. I'm interested. I hope he has some good star fades or wipes or at least one of them blinds, you know, give us a retro PowerPoint.

[B]

Is that him?

[A]

Yeah, that's him.

[B]

Hold on. He's 22. Let me. Let me hit pause for a sec. 20. That's what? That's my initial question. 22 is the age that he's going with.

[A]

Yeah, he's 22. I am confusion. Yeah. I'm gonna say this is a 22, where you don't drink no water. Where you replace water with Papa's rushing vodka out of the plastic bottle. This is for people who drink Everclear at 8:00am like, that's the kind of 22 he is. This man look like he on his second marriage, and he at least got a nine year old.

[B]

Wait, how old is this guy? Now, there's a gentleman in a blazer with a mustache who looks like an English. I'm dying to know how. I wish I knew how old this guy was.

[A]

Right? And why is he wearing this men's warehouse suit like he about to go to court?

[B]

You're gonna love the way you look

[A]

in jail, I guarantee.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, Lord. Okay, so we see some of that little bootleg PowerPoint. But listen, I talk about this all the time. Scams. One of the most essential things that you can be good at is one, Photoshop. Anything in technology, anything like organizing. So them being good at PowerPoint is also in there because as a scammer, you have to have tools. You have to have sometimes costumes, sometimes you need other tools to prove legitimacy. Fake letters, fake social, fake IDs. In this case, fake PowerPoint. That is real, technically.

[B]

But with sex. It says, I have an infrastructure. It says, I am a real company. It says, I have support. I have tech people. Look, I have a laptop. That means somehow I have money. I know how to operate online tools. I know what I'm doing. Yes, I am 22. I look like I'm 28. I look like I was born with fetal alcohol syndrome this morning. But like, I am. I'm ready to go. You can trust me to deliver your vaccine that I made.

[A]

Calling it a startup is so brilliant because when you're a startup, you have very little online presence. So when the girls Google you, what are they gonna find? Also, startup is one of those Silicon Valley, like, spicy.

[B]

They love that. Yeah.

[A]

And IPO. And what it allows is for secrecy, right? IPOs usually are bound in a lot of secrecy. Like startups, they're like, we don't want you to steal our plan or our logistics, so we can't tell you nothing about our product and just give us money.

[B]

I wonder if he had an NDA. I wonder if he made people sign NDAs. But then he's streaming. That's. It's interesting, right? Just get him to sign. Get people. Just sign anything that you like, download from LegalZoom. And she'd be like, this is our NDA. That's next stage for him, right?

[A]

And listen, y' all can have NDAs too, y' all legal. Zoom. Hop on there. Or remember we did a. There's some website where you could make fake pay stubs and all kinds of fake stuff. And it was like, don't use this for crime, y'. All.

[B]

What are we using it for?

[A]

You know, you need to make fake pay stubs for legal stuff.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Right? Yeah. For things that are totally above board.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So he's got the girls on the PowerPoint right in his. So slide after slide, he lays out his vision with colorful graphics, maps, coloring, all aspects of a vaccination system. The marketing plan included local celebrities like rapper Meek Mill.

[B]

You gotta have Meek if you're in Philly. If you're in Philly, you gotta have Meek.

[A]

Like, that's who you need to get the vaccine.

[B]

You gotta have it.

[A]

It's like, I wasn't gonna get the vaccine. And then somebody. Hold on, Wait a minute. Y' all thought I was finished when I got this vaccination? Y' all thought it was ready. Like. Like this was okay. Now I'm gonna get my shot. Cause Meek said so. Okay, okay. I don't know. Meek Mill, the number one figure of public health for Philadelphia. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I'm not sure. So he said Meek Mill was a part of the fan base. Okay, great. Andre said, this is wholly an Elon Musk shooting for the heavens type of thing. We're gonna have a preemptive strike on vaccines and basically beat everybody in Philadelphia to it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You start throwing around Elon Musk, you

[B]

gotta put that out there.

[A]

Computer technology, like a PowerPoint. Wow.

[B]

It's an early strike. You're talking about, like, war crimes on the COVID virus, right? Man, anytime you put. Anytime you put Elon, you say Elon Musk, startup. And you have those two things in your statement in your presentation. People are going to get excited. They're going to think you know what you're doing, right?

[A]

Because now you're a genius. Now you're a tech genius. It's like, first the vaccination, then we going to Mars, too. We also going to get in line to go to Mars. It's a little bit of a line, but we going to go as well. What? So you know. But these are buzzwords. All he did. The only thing that he left out was the black turtleneck. If he had showed up in the black turtleneck, he would be giving Silicon Luke. Okay, everything okay. We got aggressive language. We got Elon Musk. I'm sure he was cussing a lot,

[B]

you know, what's the dollar amount? What did he take? What did he rake in? I can't. I can't wait to know. It's going to be a lot, isn't it?

[A]

I love your brain, Jason, because you're like, right on where we're going with this. So he claimed that they could vaccinate between 500,000 and 1.5 million people. And they would make a lot of money doing it, cuz, you know, I mean, what's public health without a private coin?

[B]

Listen, you gotta have that. The market. The market forces must work or why would it make sense to even vaccinate people?

[A]

No.

[B]

If it's not gonna be profitable, why would you do it?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. Something about humanity. I heard people.

[B]

No, come on.

[A]

I tried to get stock in humanity. It really is.

[B]

It doesn't work. Let me try and. Let me try and buy a house off humanity. That's not working the American way.

[A]

So he explained that the vaccination doses were free. They were provided by the government. But Philly Fighting Covid could bill insurance companies $24 a dose while administering it. Andre said, I told you guys how many vaccines we want to do. You can do the math in your head. Okay, But. Okay, you got a PowerPoint. Like, you can't just hit next slide. Yeah. You know, we all got to get out our phone calculator. It just feels like you could tell us 24 times. 1.5 million. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, put it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

So like 36 million is my guess. I think I did that math right. You could have just told us, Andre. It's very disrespectful. But you know what? It probably added to the clout because it's like, oh, absolutely. Young white man who's like, I got a PowerPoint, my homie over here and half a Brooks Brothers suit, and we gonna make y' all rich.

[B]

I mean, this. This reminds me of. Of Theranos, the great Theranos game. Like, you know, she was. What? She was Elizabeth. What's her name? She was like 20. Elizabeth Holmes. She was like 22 years old when she was doing this.

[A]

She was pretty young. 22 to 25. Somewhere around there. Very young.

[B]

With one needle, we can change the world.

[A]

I love that she sound like Cher No. Yes. I adore her. We definitely have done an episode on her because she is a mess. She's a queen. But it's the same thing. They're running off vibes. That's it. They don't have any medical.

[B]

Pure, pure vibes.

[A]

And I love it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

2020 was the year of career vibes. We all did it fine. So the city never signed a formal contract with Philly Fighting Covid or gave the organization money, but it did provide its unofficial sanction and publicity.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

So Philly didn't sign up, but they were like, I mean, if you can get the girls a shot, go ahead.

[B]

If you need to use like the official seal or something like that, what do you need? Like, do you need letterhead?

[A]

Like, y' all won't stand up?

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

yeah, we can provide that. That ain't no problem. That ain't no problem.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So Philly, a little irresponsible? I would say so. Most importantly, the city turned over part of its vaccine allotment to the group and shared lists of residents who were eligible for the vaccine. So remember, these are just two guys who went to drag school and don't have any experience in health care. Right? They got a laptop and at least all the Microsoft programs. That's all they got.

[B]

That's good. They got that. That's good.

[A]

And now they're holding life saving vaccines. What?

[B]

Wait, so they gave them vac. Did they have freezers? Like, which is this. The moderna is like, where are they keeping it? Just in the trunk, girl.

[A]

I hope that they had a freezer or, you know, looks like a mini fridge or like, I hope they had some ice and an ignite. Like, sir, why is my vaccine coming out of that igloo cooler? Don't worry about that, sweetheart. Don't worry about that, sweetheart.

[B]

Don't worry about it.

[A]

Philly fighting Covid. We fighting Covid with his hands. So the city relied on the fact that Philly Fighting Covid had registered as a vaccine provider with the center for Disease Control and Prevention. So they registered with the cdc, which. Does the CDC just let anybody register? Can I go register?

[B]

Listen, things were really, really loose over the last four years. We're just, we're hoping that they're going to tighten up now that we have different management and things are going in a different way. We were hoping that, but let's. Let's just call it what it is. Things were just very, very, very loose for the last four years in every respect.

[A]

We were missing a lot of oversight

[B]

it feels like there was not a lot. There's not a lot of oversight. Right.

[A]

A lot of undersight. Nobody was just. I don't know. Sign them all up, bitch. What? Whatever. We trying to be free. I understand that. I fully understand that. That's like, if your house is on fire, are you really gonna be like, single file? No, we all throwing the baby out the window.

[B]

Yeah, we're going out the windows. We're going out the second floor windows. We're diving on the ground.

[A]

Right. So I can understand that. On January 8th, Andre and the mayor of Philadelphia, Jim Kenney, held a press conference. I love that you laugh every time I say his name. It makes me laugh. So Andre and the mayor of Philadelphia, Jim Kenney, held a press conference to kick off the first mass vaccine vaccination clinic. Andre told reporters, what you see here is the problem that we've been solving for six months. The problem of vaccinating an entire population of people on a scale that has never been done before in the history of our species. They're also hopeful that the arrangement would help diversify the racial backgrounds of the vaccine recipients. So they're, like, also variously harmed people.

[B]

Pull up, Pull up. Please come get this vaccine that it's gonna go bad. It's in my trunk again. It's supposed to be frozen at very specific temperatures. Do we have that kind of infrastructure? I don't know. Just quick, come get this, right?

[A]

Don't worry about that, sweetheart. Just come over here and get poked. All right, look, Meek Mill might be here.

[B]

Hurry up.

[A]

Y' all want to see Meek Mill, right?

[B]

He's coming. He texts me he's on his way.

[A]

Yeah, he coming on a scooty bike. Y' all trying to see him. So at that point, only 12% of vaccinated Philadelphians were Black. In a city where 44% of the residents are black.

[B]

Surprise, surprise, right?

[A]

Shocker. They don't want the blacks to live.

[B]

Wow. Wow. I can't believe it.

[A]

We really are resilient, because when I tell you, they be trying to kill us all the damn time, and we still here, and then we be dancing.

[B]

No.

[A]

We must get on y' all nerves. Racist. They're like, these Negroes are still here and somehow happy. You know, we're kind of happy. So obviously, those numbers are. There's a disparity. So after the first vaccination event, at which 2,500 doses were administered. It's a good amount. City council requested the demographic breakdown of the recipients. But Philly fighting Covid Claimed it had somehow lost all of the racial and ethnic data for the elections.

[B]

I got that in my other hold.

[A]

No, Jason, you got all you, right? You got in your pocket?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. You know what I left in my car? Let me go get it. I'm gonna go get it right now, but let's keep going with this. You don't stop with this. I'll go get that. I think I just left it in my other pants in my car.

[A]

Are you sure? No, but we need to know how many people were black. Like, how many?

[B]

How many you want? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got it. It's like a ballpark. I don't want to talk about. You know, I don't want to mislead you, but it's like a good number. It's a good amount. It's what you want to see.

[A]

This paper says I definitely met a guy named Sean. Sean is also a white name. That doesn't quantify anything for us.

[B]

Well, you know, now it's like, with that kind of cultural lens, you know, you don't know that Sean could be his mom. Maybe just liked James Bond movies or something like that, you know, Anyway, but like, I've got that. We've got the stats. I'll bring them to you. They're in my car next to a vat of melting vaccine.

[A]

Wonderful, wonderful. I love that. They just probably didn't even think to count race or have any forms for people to fill out. I feel like you just pulled up to this and it was like, you know how you get your car washed at the gas station? Like, everybody just got in line, got that squeegee and left. So the reason that they didn't have the racial and ethnic group backgrounds, which is this is their reason, they said the group was blaming it on a glitch in the Amazon cloud. So they said, alexa, what? Tell us how many black people are here? And Alexa was like, I can't see

[B]

glitch in the Amazon cloud.

[A]

Y' all know how to cloud? Beat the Amazon cloud.

[B]

Come on. It just goes up there and then everything gets mixed up and who knows if it comes back down?

[A]

Cuz otherwise Siri or Alexa, she would definitely have been counting how many minorities we had.

[B]

I have a DM out to Jeff Bezos right now. I'm waiting to hear back from him. Obviously he's very busy doing stuff with the Washington Post and also all the stuff with Amazon. But I'm hoping to hear back from Jeff.

[A]

Right, Jeff. Gonna let Us know, because basically we set the Alexa up in front and we said it would ask everybody, do you like seasoning? And based on that answer they would determine if they were white or a person of color. So we had a flawless entry system. However, the cloud is raining so we, we lost it. I love this excuse. The city continued still continues to turn over thousands of vaccine doses to Philly fighting Covid. So they were like, okay girls, well we can't tell who you're vaccinating, but they getting stabbed. So yes, the scheduling process for vaccination and appointments was also flawed. Anyone who received a link could sign up for a time slot even though the only healthcare workers and like elderly people were eligible. So health care workers and elderly were their primary focus. But if somebody hits you with that link though.

[B]

Yeah, you could just get in. And that's happening. That's the thing that's happening in LA right now. People sharing those codes that were meant to go to low income people, neighborhoods of color. And there's codes that are being have been shared in Los Angeles area allowing people to pull up to various vaccine sites.

[A]

Yes. And it's right. And as much as like, I'm all for like, can I get a plus one to the vaccine? You know what I mean?

[B]

And I want one. Listen, I want one. I'll tell you right now, I want one.

[A]

At the same time, let's be decent about this. If you made it through this whole pandemic without getting coronavirus, let the people who are most susceptible get vaccinated.

[B]

Let's do that. Yeah.

[A]

It's so childish, it's trifling. But you know, Americans go American, you know, there's one thing we gonna do, it's American. I.

[B]

It's going to be the thing that we've been doing this whole time. Let me ask you, are the people that got this vaccine from Philly fighting Covid, are they good? Like is that vaccine legit? Are they good?

[A]

Yeah, I think when the government ships it, it's not just like toilet paper or something. They're sending stuff, everyone knows how to handle it. As far as this article tell the few articles that we've gathered, we haven't seen people physically being ill from getting the vaccine. It seems like their administration process was the only thing that was probably accurate. I doubt, I doubt that the psychology bros are out on the street team stabbing the girls. I'm sure they got somebody who knows how to work a needle for that. I would hope. But you never know. So many people have their doses canceled upon arrival. Well, what. How you gonna cancel my medicine when I pull. Mm. Mm. I would've been like, get a syringe out. Somebody stabbed me.

[B]

Sorry. No, no, no, no.

[A]

When a woman named Jillian Horne came to get a shot, she said she saw senior citizens waiting in line and getting turn. This is a quote. There were literally 85 year olds and 95 year old people standing there with printed appointment confirmation saying, I don't understand why I can't get vaccinated. Damn natural out here scamming Meemaw out of her shots. Come on.

[B]

You can't do. Then they came outside. They just. Whenever. I'll tell you what. I'm begging my mom to get the vaccine. I'm begging her to do it. She's like, I'm waiting for the. I want the Johnson and Johnson. Like, I prefer the Moderna to the this. I'm like, why are you waiting for brands? Like, it's a supreme drop. Can you just get whatever you can get as soon as you can get it? Can you please get the vaccine? Whenever she tells me she has to go out to go shopping or what, I'm like, can you just please, like, have. Have my brother. Have. Have your other son do that for you? Like, why are you going out? Stay inside, please. You made me want to go outside to get a vaccine and turn her away. I'm sorry. This is bad.

[A]

I know. No, I get it. Also, like, the pandemic fully made us all our parents. Parents. Where. I was like, where y' all at? Where y' all at? My mom got the vaccine, but I'm like, yeah, I was very concerned. Thank you, Flex. You know, over here, over here. We get the shots or whatever. No, but I'm absolutely on the same page as you. It's like, come on now. You can't have papaw and meemaw out here struggling. Give them the vaccine.

[B]

Don't do that.

[A]

So one volunteer nurse said that half an hour before one vaccine center closed, staffers started telling volunteers and other workers to call anyone they knew to come in for a shot because there were gonna be extra trust now. Hey, I ain't against this, okay? It's like when they throw the donuts away at Duncan at the end of the night. Give those to unhoused people. Give them away. Also, if we got some. We got some shots left over. Come on, let's pour up. Let me get one. Call your cousins in your home, girl. Yes. So because they expire, like, that's the stupid thing about these shots.

[B]

That is the. The Infuriating thing about these shots is that the. At the end of the day, that we would have some amount that would potentially get thrown away is crazy.

[A]

It's so waste crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Undeniably American to be like, it's unbelievable

[B]

that this is the way we're doing it.

[A]

Well, I mean, we had no plan, and we still have no plan, which is why I was fucking with Andre, because at least he was doing, like. Honestly, I wish he had called the government when he had the idea and been like, hey, can y' all bring me on? Like, I think y' all should be planning for this. He was ahead of the game. So Andre initially denied taking the vaccines because basically, when they offered the girls the extra shots, Andre was like, you know what? Let me go ahead and take about 50. Yeah,

[B]

I wasn't gonna. But now I'm gonna there.

[A]

Andre, why are you putting those vaccines in that gym bag? Oh, you know, I'm actually gonna hit the streets, the gym, and shoot. You know, they already shooting up steroids. I'mma just hit them with the vaccine.

[B]

What's wrong about anyway, Right?

[A]

So basically, one of the volunteers saw Andre grabbed this handful of vaccines and put it in his bag. She watched him do this. She was like, wait a minute. I know we don't have a lot of pro call around here, have a lot of. Of rules, but I feel like just shoving a lot of vaccine in your person is one of our rules.

[B]

Yeah, come on.

[A]

Are you taking bootleg vaccine? Like, what if Andre came up to you? He was like, okay, I got that juice. It's only going for two more hours.

[B]

No, absolutely. I'm not taking bootleg vaccine from a. From a Andre who says he's 22, but may not be and is taking a vaccine. Ampoules of vaccine, like, out of just, like, a gym bag. Are you kidding me?

[A]

I love that you said Andre. Like, that was allegedly his name. Like, you don't trust anything about this man, and I lie.

[B]

I do not. I do not.

[A]

So Andre initially denied taking the vaccines, but eventually admitted that he took doses home during an interview on NBC's Today show the following day. At a press conference, he said that he had vaccinated his girlfriend, but no one else.

[B]

Wait, he. He administered the vaccine to his girlfriend?

[A]

I mean, what is it? A little shot? You just do it in a general arm area, you know, little stab. We can all do that. I could administer vaccines.

[B]

I feel like you should have some sort of, like, medical something, But I guess, like, what do I know? Yeah, Like, I don't know. Okay.

[A]

You've watched enough Grey's Anatomy to vaccinate you and everyone in your town. Okay? I'm like, yeah, give me the vaccine stat. Okay. What else we gotta say? And then I stab you. That's it. I don't even have to find a vein. That's cute.

[B]

Let me say they better stay together. They better stay together. I better find out that Andre and this girl got married. That's.

[A]

But honestly, that's real love. Like he gave. That is real love for Valentine's Day. Y' all got some dick. She got the vaccine. Like, that's right. Wow.

[B]

That's what Andre get you? He got me the vaccine three months ago.

[A]

Just had it expensive.

[B]

I know. Come on.

[A]

Like, Andre, why do you just have to see your car? I keep it under the AC so it stays the temperature. I have it blowed directly on the vials.

[B]

Yeah, I put the. I. I aim. I aim the vent down at it so it blow right on the vial. And that's basically all the way up.

[A]

Just like the moderna fridge. It's the same shit. So getting caught. As the startup continued to hold clinics, NPR began investigating the organ and its founder. The investigation revealed that in December, just before Philly Fighting Covid began vaccination work, it reorganized and became a for profit company called Vax Populi. Sounds just cryptic and Latin enough to be some kind of pharmaceutical.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So several groups that had been partnering with Philly Fighting Covid on testing events claimed that they received little to or no notice, jeopardizing plans for testing in communities of color. So Andre was calling, was like, hey, we outside with the shots. Y' all got a tent.

[B]

I mean, it just shows you. If you say it just shows you how little the government and corporations are actually interested in vaccinating communities of color. That they're just like some 22 year old pulls up and is like, I'll do it. And they're just like, okay, right? We're not checking. You're gonna do it? Yes, I'll do it. I swear. Okay, here's vaccine.

[A]

And it's so funny to me because this is, you know, the government and you know, the establishments and the people who kind of reign in this country. CIS rich white males and then women to follow. You know, they're fucking up their own back. Y' all been stealing from minorities for years. Do you really want us to think, where will all your new ideas come from?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You're not gonna be able to hide behind a bush in the hood and steal Everything you see, like, what do you mean? Like, you're not gonna have nothing left to colonize. If we did. Y' all know that it would be a very lonely place without us. Who else you gonna steal from?

[B]

And what are you gonna do? No new Tick tock dances after this, right?

[A]

Y' all really trying to lose all the tick and tac dances? Come on now. We come out with a black person comes out with a Tick tock dance every three seconds. And they be hitting. Y' all don't want to lose that. So, yeah, it's. It's absolutely insane that they were like, yeah, you go out here. So basically, Andre would pull up and be like, hey, y' all got the syringes? They were like, we need more notice than this. Andre, you can't just keep pulling up and saying we outside.

[B]

Right, Right. Hurry up. Because my. If I roll my window down, it gets hot in my car and then the vaccine starts to go bad. So you gotta hurry up, get out here now.

[A]

What's that honking? Oh, that's Andre. He must be outside. Come on, y'. All, get the scrubs. Everybody get y' all face shields. We gotta go out here. Like, you can't do pop up vaccination nation like this. This is not a fun game. This ain't the Rihanna shoe launch. What are you doing? So. But I love it. I love all of this. So Sean James, the pastor of Salt and Light Church, said they completely ghosted us. Damn. Got ghosted by the vaccine people. A week later, city officials changed course and claimed that the city had nothing to do with Philly fighting Covid. Which is probably why they never officially said. Cuz they were like, well, if it goes like, left, we'll be like, I don't.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. We let them use a couple envelopes. That's it. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, that's it. Some stamps, I don't know, a watermark.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. What are you talking about? What press?

[A]

Yeah, all of our stuff says Philadelphia City Council, but that don't mean we was actually involved.

[B]

Yeah, come on now.

[A]

The city council for everybody. So, you know, like, I love that they just separated themselves from this so quick. At a press conference in his apartment building, Andre called the city's decision to dissolve the partnership dirty power politics.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

And alleged. Okay. And alleged. It was a part of a political conspiracy. Yeah. I don't know, Andre. When people catch you jingle jangling when you leave the COVID site, cuz you got vials in your pocket. When. When you just pulling up the sites and, like, everybody we vaccinate in the car today, just have them get in the back. Like, what is happening? This is not possible politics. I think you were doing crime. Well, that's the thing that.

[B]

And that's what everybody says today, you know, and that's what every scammer or person like Andre who's been just built in the system would say. Oh, this is a conspiracy, political conspiracy. You gotta stop the steal. It's all fixed. They don't want us to do what we're doing because we're effective at it.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Andre, stop it.

[A]

Like, Andre, also, like, the jig is up, bro. We know what you're doing. You don't have to keep purporting yourself this way. But he did say, and this is one of my favorite things, and this is actually something from the very first episode that we did from Anna Delvey. Remember, Anna Delvey said.

[B]

I loved Anna Delvey.

[A]

I am not a good person. And that's one of the most freeing things I've ever heard. Like, I consider myself a good person. I'm going to stop when I turn 45, because being a good person ages you and it gives you stress and heart problems.

[B]

So if you want, that's why Trump's going to live to 120. Because he doesn't care.

[A]

Exactly. We never gonna get rid of his ass. So if you want to sleep good, just start doing a little evil when you turn about 50, you know, just a little bit of evil, okay? And you'll be just fine. But he says at the end here, if I had the chance, I wouldn't do anything different. Andre, you would have worked on the logistics. You would have stole the vaccine maybe, like, secretly, right?

[B]

You would have grabbed a handful of vaccine like. Like, it's a candy bowl, and you're on your way out the dentist office. Like, what are you talking about?

[A]

Like, I love it, though. I love that he has no remorse. It's just. I mean, I don't like that you're doing this fake vaccine setup and that it's harming, you know, POC communities. That shit is garbage, but also trash. This is America. Like, honestly, if you are a young white man out here and you listen to this show, if you haven't started your own startup and tried to build the government, baby, what is you doing with that?

[B]

Monetizing, harming minority communities is the American way. Andre just found a way, a new way to do it or to present himself as doing it. And I'll Tell you, an innovator. After hearing this, I have never been more confident that Andre. We will hear from Andre again.

[A]

Absolutely. Even the way that this went down, it doesn't look like he's serving any jail time. He just said it was dirty politics.

[B]

Of course he didn't serve jail time.

[A]

I guess technically he didn't break any laws. We never said you couldn't just make up being a part of the government or the healthcare industry. We never said you couldn't do that. He didn't lie.

[B]

No.

[A]

He never told somebody he was a doctor. You know, not a doctor. Okay. You know, Andre, you're a good time. I can't wait for your next scam. Maybe leave the brown people out of it, but please, other than that. All right guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non scam advertisements and we'll be back with the end of the show. Robbery and fraud. And we are back. And this is the saddest part because after this, I'm gonna have to let Jason go. Gu. I know, it's always so hard for me. But guys, before we go, we're gonna end on a fun note. So we have scammer of the week. This is where every week we will highlight one charlatan that we deem really worthy of our praise. Or sometimes not. We'll see. I think today, I don't know, I feel like I'm gonna like this guy. But we'll see. So today's scammer of the week is Kevin Hart's personal shopper who was charged with stealing a million dollars. A mil. A million. A million dollars from Kevin Kev.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I mean, look, Kevin Hart's money is tall. I imagine he can't see the top of it, you know what I mean? So if you see him off the tank, right, Like I don't know what he did up there, he's like help. That's what happened when your money taller than you, you know, you can't see up there. Somebody could get a little skimmy, skim, little scrapey scrape off the top of a million dollars all at once or over.

[B]

Over a period of time.

[A]

Over a period.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

So Dylan, Jason, Sire. Dylan got two first names.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Suspicious. Who has been working for Kevin Hart since 2015, is accused of making unauthorized purchases using Hart's credit cards. Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Dylan, who ran a personal shopping business, was accused of using his card information without authorization to purchase two Louis Vuitton handbags, various high end art collectibles like Kaws. Cause do you know what that is?

[B]

I have no idea what that is.

[A]

And Bear Brick products, too rich for me.

[B]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's some art, Basil. Shit that I don't know about.

[A]

Somebody translate that to poor. Well, how much. How much is that in poor? What is that? How do you say that? How you say poor? That's for the hilarious friends. Okay. Also, like a modern painting by Sam Friedman and $400,000 worth of Swiss watches, according to prosecutors.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Dylan made unauthorized charges using Kevin hart's cards from October 12, 2017 through February 25 of 2019. Okay, so he was stealing for a solid year. He got the mail.

[B]

He was. Yeah. I'll tell you, if you use the. If you use a card, you're gonna get caught. That's the unfortunate truth.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Gonna get you.

[A]

One day, at some point, an accountant or a business manager, somebody's gonna see like, yo, a million's gone. Like, I. I can't imagine being so rich that I can't notice a million dollars leave my bank account. That's. That feels like you should be looking at your money a little bit more than that. We're all in the pandemic. All you had to do. All you had was time to look at your money. Count it.

[B]

That

[A]

go all Scrooge McDuck, jump around in it, like splash. Right. Which that would be very painful if you jumped into solid coins. Just want every. I just want to ruin that face. Everybody.

[B]

Yeah, but like, loose B. Loose paper. Loose paper. Maybe you could do it.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Dollar bills. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All that dirty cocaine. Money.

[B]

Enjoy.

[A]

Money's been in everybody's booty hole. So in total, Sire allegedly charged roughly $923,000 on Hart's credit card, in addition to $240,000 worth of jewelry and watches purchased from a high end jeweler in California. So he's actually over a mil.

[B]

Oh, wow. And so he was reselling it or keeping it for himself?

[A]

I do not know. Let's see. He often posted pictures of the purchases on Instagram. Shocker.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

His account's not available anymore. Dylan has been charged with grand larceny, criminal possession, identity theft, and schemes to defraud. And let's look at a photo of some of the seized items from Dylan's home. So obviously he wasn't selling all of these things.

[B]

Oh, look at that.

[A]

Okay, so he's got cash also. He's doing it like drug dealer cash. He got rubber bands over it. Okay. Hunted bands.

[B]

Oh, he's Got some sports. He's got some sports cards too. Those are worth money.

[A]

Oh, he done went out and bought sports cars.

[B]

Oh yeah. Oh, those are those things, those, I've seen those at like, like in.

[A]

You got collectibles.

[B]

Collectibles, Little toys.

[A]

You know what? Oh, that's like the Black Panther. Mickey Mouse. Is that what I'm looking at? Oh, that's probably limited edition, you know. But what's wild to me about this guy is one, you have the audacity to steal from this man. Right?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Who you work for, who you know, knows where you live and knows who you are.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Two, you won't steal over a million dollars. Like you could start with like 3, $400, like off the top. Like you. A million.

[B]

I bet you that's how it started, right? Like he was like, let me just get this PlayStation 4 video game.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Let me get this new Xbox. And then when nobody came and tapped him on the shoulder for a couple weeks, he's like, okay, let me, let me move it up. I'm get some sneakers. And then you move it up and you move it up. Next thing you know you're buying a $200,000 Swiss watches. But man, I mean, they're going to get you. If you're on the credit card, they're going to get you. They're going to get you.

[A]

And also, Dylan is addicted to scamming because yeah, once. It's not like he took money and paid his bills or his rent. He hoarded a bunch of expensive ass. He's not even selling it. He's just coming, coming home.

[B]

Like, ah, yeah, I'm staring at it

[A]

like, how you gonna be all hoarders before hoodwinks? Like, yeah, I just can't let go of anything I stole. I need it all. They gotta come. Marie Kondo, your crimes. Like, what? Why?

[B]

I guess, I guess it was just like all that time being so close to that kind of lifestyle. He just wanted to taste it. Like Icarus, he wanted to fly. Even if it was just for five minutes.

[A]

Minutes. This is why when you're famous or you're rich or if you know someone has power attorney over you or whatever, like you've always got to count your coins. And I said this on the last episode. You also need to intimidate anybody who works with your money. Let them know that you are crazy. Like, yeah, this could end in court. Also, this could end up with me slashing all four of your tires and flyering your neighborhood with crook. Like, I'll spend a Whole week and a half just trying to destroy your reputation. If you steal from me, that's crazy. Also, pay your employees what they deserve to be paid. Because normally, if you pay somebody well enough, like we saw with the Starbucks guy earlier, if you pay somebody well enough, they probably won't steal from you because they want to keep their job. You ain't paying them well enough.

[B]

Employees that. That gossip about you and employees that steal from you, a lot of times are the ones that are unhappy because they're not being paid.

[A]

They're undervalued.

[B]

They're undervalued. Well, Kevin, come on. I hope you're doing that. But like, imagine I just want to get to a place in my life where somebody took a million point one and I just didn't know about it for a year.

[A]

Just so much fun. Can you imagine?

[B]

Could you imagine just being like, oh, somebody took a 1.1 from me. I didn't. We got it. Who did that? Where did that go?

[A]

Even the article, it's written like, Kevin Hart lost his car keys. They're like, where did Millie go?

[B]

You check on the couch?

[A]

Where did Millie go?

[B]

Yeah, you see my 1.1?

[A]

Nah, I seen it. Maybe I left it in the bathroom. Oh, well, I gotta get to work. Like, what? Feels like it should be a little bit bigger of a deal. But, you know, Dylan, I'm sorry. I hope that you don't have to serve time. I love that, that we blamed Kevin Hart slightly for this night.

[B]

I know, right?

[A]

I was like, kevin, it's your fault, truly, because I love to scam. So, Dylan, I hope you don't have any jail time. I hope you get great resale value on everything that you bought with stolen cards.

[B]

Yes. Hopefully you stash some of that away where they can't find it too.

[A]

Right. He has some raw cash out. So I'm like, I hope you done put. I hope you got a little Shawshank box or something under a tree, baby girl, for when you get out the clink. Morgan Freeman's voice start. It's been 30 years. Kevin Hart is still mad at me. I saw him in the grocery store and he punched me directly in my knee, which is at eye level for him. Like, I just want Morgan Freeman to narrate all of this.

[B]

I heard a voice call my name and I turned around and the voice said, no, down here. It's me, Kevin Hart.

[A]

Down here, down here, bitch. It's me.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What a fantastic way to end a fantastic episode, guys. We always ask on the show, Jason where do you want to be found?

[B]

Find me at Crooked Media, where I'm launching my podcast, Takeline and my video show. All caps. Come check it out. Subscribe on the YouTube page, please.

[A]

Yes. And any social media you need to plug your Twitter again.

[B]

My Twitter is etwork. You'll find me there. And then on my profile page you'll find and all the links that you need to follow further.

[A]

Yes, link up. And as always, guys, if you want to snitch on your friends, family, enemies, please email scamgodispodgmail.com. just make sure it is retired. We do not want to up your bag. As always, you can find us at Scam Goddess Pod on all platforms. We verified on Instagram, honey. So now I can. If you guys want to find me D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey on all platforms. I'll be back on ABC sees the con, so look out for that. Oh, Scams Honey. Some that we've covered on the show, but in even more detail. So enjoy. All right, congregation, stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess is starring me. Duh. Scam Goddess, AKA Lacy Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Chelsea Jacobson and engineered by Marina Paiz with research by Sherrilynn Vera. Stay scheming.