The Ex-Hurler’s Cancer Con w/ Shea Couleé

Summary

Scam Goddess – "The Ex-Hurler’s Cancer Con" w/ Shea Couleé

Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Shea Couleé
Original Air Date: March 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Scam Goddess brings the congregation a wild, hilarious deep-dive into the true crime–adjacent world of scams—“true con” as Laci says. Joined by drag superstar Shea Couleé, Laci explores the jaw-dropping saga of Irish sports hero DJ Carey, who faked having cancer to defraud acquaintances, fans, and businesspeople out of hundreds of thousands of euros. Alongside the main con, the duo offers witty commentary on American scam culture, personal stories of hustle, and plenty of asides on chips, drag conventions, and Irish linguistics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. America: Land of the Hustle and the Scam

• Laci and Shea open by reflecting on how scams are "woven into the fabric of this country."

• Quote:

  "We live in America. It is a country built off of scamming. You know, scamming is woven into the fabric of this country." —Shea Couleé [02:45]

• They joke about the inevitability of encountering scams, be it taxes, inflated chip prices, or broken promises. Laci makes the case that scams are a “recession indicator.”

• Joke moments:

  • "A personal bag of chips should not be a dollar." [06:29]
  • "Chips are filled with more air—what we're getting in that bag... is probably a third of a potato." [06:37]

2. What Makes a Scam a Scam?

• Shea and Laci riff on the ethics of scamming—rooting for hustle against the system but denouncing scams that target the vulnerable (e.g., Jen Shah and Elizabeth Holmes).

• They agree that a "scam" is when two people enter an agreement and one doesn’t get what was promised. [11:39]

  • Quote:

    "For me, the definition of a scam is when two people enter an agreement and one person walks away not receiving what they were promised." —Laci Mosley [11:39]

3. Personal Scam Stories & DragCon

• Shea spills about the ups and downs of RuPaul’s DragCon, where the costs for participants quickly add up, prompting queens to have to pass charges along to fans.
• Laci argues this is more “hustle” than outright scam, as fans still get what they paid for. [11:39–13:48]

4. Introducing DJ Carey and the Cancer Scam

• Historic Hoodwinks segment dives into the main case:
  • DJ Carey, noted as “Ireland’s Messi,” is a revered sports figure in the niche world of hurling. [17:57]
  • The duo comedically tries to figure out what hurling actually is, leading to a funny diversion about Irish words and culture. [19:17–22:58]

5. The Rise and Fall of DJ Carey

• DJ’s varied post-sports ventures: from cleaning supply businesses (with suspiciously vague “Enterprise” names) to property investments with a millionaire girlfriend, Sarah Newman (of Dragon’s Den fame). [24:06–30:33]
• Regular business failures, bankruptcies, and a series of replacement partners (wife, then sister, then girlfriend) set the stage for desperation before the scam.

6. The Cancer Con Scheme (Key Segment)

• Timestamp: [43:19]

• DJ Carey falsely claims to have multiple myeloma, leveraging a “rare, aggressive cancer” for sympathy and cash.

  • Shea shares a personal connection:

    "My dad died from [multiple myeloma], so I'm really gonna get on your ass, DJ." —Shea Couleé [44:17]

• Carey uses fake medical records, doctored photos (with an iPhone charging cord as his "oxygen tube"), and fabricated stories of malpractice suits and US treatment. [48:27–50:42]

  Memorable Drag:

  • "Can you at least stick the charging part of [the iPhone cord] all the way up your nose? I can see where the plugin is!" —Laci Mosley [49:22]

7. How the Scam Worked and Fell Apart

• Carey targeted well-off acquaintances and businesspeople, spinning elaborate stories and promising repayment once a mythical payout arrived. [53:45]

• Many victims were cold-emailed or texted after decades with no contact, asked to "donate" or loan thousands at a time. [56:25–56:49]

  • "I don't hear from you for 30 years and you gonna hit me up for 20 bands?" —Shea Couleé [56:40]

• Carey’s documentation and stories unravel under scrutiny:

  • No hospital records, court cases, or international medical travel.
  • Irish doctors confirm that no cancer patient would need to go to the US for this treatment anyway. [55:37]

8. Downfall and Community Reactions

• DJ Carey is arrested and pleads guilty to scamming 13 people out of €400,000. Only €44,000 has been repaid. [61:41]
• Sentenced to 5.5 years, he receives support from fans—including one who lets him live at his home pre-incarceration.
• Notably, his sister Katrina—ousted from business—is also up for trial for money laundering, showing that “keeping it in the family” isn’t always smart. [66:01]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On American scam culture:

• "There is no way to exist here without either scamming or being scammed."
  —Shea Couleé [02:46]

• "We all just show up to Congress in a neck brace for the whiplash."
  —Laci Mosley [06:07]

On DragCon “scamonomics”:

• "They put the con in DragCon, baby!"
  —Shea Couleé [10:14]

On Irish business names:

• Regarding “DJ Carey Enterprises”:
  "That doesn't tell me what you do. No, that's a scamming ass name, girl."
  —Laci Mosley [24:06]

• "Whenever someone says 'experiential activation,' you know they on some bullshit."
  —Shea Couleé [25:04]

On the audacity of the cancer scam:

• "He just took a picture of himself with an iPhone cable up his nose."
  —Laci Mosley [16:47]
• "That's masking tape, too. That's not even like medical grade tape."
  —Shea Couleé [17:17]

On assessing scam victims:

• "Famous equals good person... because every single famous person is famously a good person."
  —Shea Couleé [47:09]

On fraud family values:

• "She really looks up to her brother… my brother doing fraud, let me get some!"
  —Shea Couleé [66:01]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:06–08:25] – Introduction; America’s scam culture and recession jokes
• [11:39] – Defining “scam” versus “hustle”
• [17:57–22:58] – Explaining hurling (with comedic confusion)
• [24:06–30:33] – DJ Carey Enterprises and Irish business drama
• [43:19–50:42] – DJ Carey’s fake cancer diagnosis, forged documents, and the execution of the con
• [53:45–55:57] – Mechanics of the scam; targeting well-off people, promising returns, and the unraveling
• [61:41–64:52] – Sentencing, community response, and family legacy of fraud

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The Takeaway

This episode fuses keen comedic observation with an in-depth breakdown of how con artists exploit trust, celebrity, and sympathy. Through the absurd tale of DJ Carey—and their own drag, fan, and American experiences—Laci and Shea show why we must stay vigilant, question narratives, and above all, "stay schemin’."

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Where to Find the Cast

• Shea Couleé:
  "You can find me on Instagram, Threads, TikTok (maybe), YouTube, and Twitch—I'll be starting a book club!" [66:31]

• Laci Mosley:
  "At D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Divalaci on all platforms. Check Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram for visuals, and check my tour dates—links in bio!" [67:05]

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Scam Goddess: Stay schemin’!

Transcript

[Shea Coulee]

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[Lacy Mosley]

Support is available 24. 7 with VRBoCare. We're here day or night, ready whenever you need help. Because a great trip starts with the right support. Scams, cuns, Robbery and fraud Scams. Cause robbery and fraud. What's poppin? Congregation, it's your girl, Lacy Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, the host of the show all about Robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Please don't forget this is a comedy show. Yes. And congregation, you already know. I'm what? Yes. I'm excited, I'm elated, I'm thrilled. I'm gonna need y' all to get up out of your seat, stand up in your car at that red light. Okay? Do a little catwalk for me because today we have a drag icon on the show. They are a singer, RA, actor, podcaster, and fixture of the Chicago nightlife. Sane. You've seen them as the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 5 and as a finalist on Season 9 and on 7 All Stars. Yes. They are celebrated for their fashion forward, editorial looks, advocacy for the LGBTQIA and bipoc communities, and for their pioneering work as the first drag artists in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I know. That's right. Congregation, please welcome Shay Coulee to the show. How you all?

[Shea Coulee]

Hey, girl. How's it going? So glad to be back.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm glad to have you back. It's been a minute.

[Shea Coulee]

I know, I know. And the scams just keep on scamming.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's getting worse.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, it's really worse.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's good for me and my business.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

We're not running out of material anytime soon, but bad for the countries.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Scams are a recession indicator, for sure.

[Shea Coulee]

For sure.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. But at the same time, like, scams, even in good times or bad times, it's like alcohol consumption, where it's like, people drink when they're sad or they drink when they're happy, if they drink at all. You know what I mean? So, like, people are scamming when times are good. They scamming when Times are bad, you

[Shea Coulee]

know, look, we live in America.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, it is.

[Shea Coulee]

It is a country built off of scamming. You know, scamming is woven into the fabric of this country. So I'm just like, there is no way to exist here without either scamming or being scammed.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. I mean, we're the product of scams. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And our history books are like, yeah, black people, they took a little Carnival cruise ship, like, 300 years ago, had a unpaid internship, and then Martin Luther King came and he was marching in suits.

[Shea Coulee]

Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then Barack Obama came in the

[Shea Coulee]

end, and then ended racism, and it's just been smooth sailing ever since.

[Lacy Mosley]

Ever since.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

So, wait, I have to ask you, Sha. It's been a minute. What is your relationship with scams? You love them, you hate them. You've seen some you like, you seen some you hate. You had some run on you, you run some.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. I mean, look, like I said, I'm an American, so I'm getting scammed every single day that I'm out in these street now. I love when scamming happens to people in privilege or the status quo. You know what I'm saying? Like, those are great scams. Other scams, like, you know, Jen Shaw scamming the elderly. Those are not the scams that I like. You know, I don't like that she scammed her own mother like that. That, to me, that is a very specific level of scam scamming. When you scam your own mama.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right. Cause you scammed her once already. You got nine months free rent, and you stole all her bodily resources. And you coming for her again, came

[Shea Coulee]

for her retirement, literally was like, mama, I swear, I did not scam these people. Mom, give me your retirement to fight my legal battles. Give me all that money, Mama. And then gonna go and be like, yeah, y', all, I did it.

[Lacy Mosley]

That was the worst part about it. Why would you set your mama up like that? That's like having your parents put their house up for your bail and then running away. Why would it just.

[Shea Coulee]

That, to me, was really the nail in the coffin for Jen Shaw. I was already like, damn. Like, she is really. She is really just like a treacherous scammer. And then when I was just like, you scam. The last scam that she did was on her own mother. And that's when I was just all like, well, damn.

[Lacy Mosley]

But I mean, also, though, is it equality? You said anybody could get it.

[Shea Coulee]

You know what? Actually, yeah, honestly, it is equality. She's like, you know, What? Everybody, including my own mama, who brought me into the. Into this world and raised me, she

[Lacy Mosley]

could get scammed too, which is trifling, but I guess she has a code, which is no code whatsoever, right?

[Shea Coulee]

None. None. She's like, I. She's like, I respect no one.

[Lacy Mosley]

Which, you know, that can be a place in the world. I don't want that to be our world. So I absolutely agree with you.

[Shea Coulee]

But it's like, you know, Jen Shaw came up in America, so she was just so, like, oh, this is the American dream. We have to scam people. Like, I was just, like, going through, doing some stuff for taxes just like yesterday, and I was just like, oh, yes, this scam. I said, this scam really annoys me.

[Lacy Mosley]

You don't like the guessing game? You don't like. You guess how much you owe us. And if you don't send it, we put you in Wesley Snipes J.

[Shea Coulee]

Right, girl. And, like, I'm like, actually, y' all owe me for everything that this administration has done the last year. I was like, I feel like I deserve payment for my pain and suffering.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Like, when can we get the American class action lawsuit where we all just show up to Congress in a neck brace? Like, by all of us.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes. From all the whiplash.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, we all just show up with canes and neck braces. From the whiplash.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. From all the headlines.

[Lacy Mosley]

We demand compensation. Girl, I'm gonna start this. Y' all stay up till 3am Because I'm gonna start them ads. Like, have you or a loved one

[Shea Coulee]

been scammed by America every day? A personal bag of chips should not be a dollar.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, they put more air in it too.

[Shea Coulee]

They took out the chips and put air in there and put air in. And I'm like, what we're getting in that bag of chips, I kid you not, is probably a third of a potato and one.

[Lacy Mosley]

So a third of the generous.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. Maybe a fourth, maybe even a fifth of a potato and one potato. One. Okay, so five times of what we're getting in that bag is about 2 cents. Why is this a dollar? You know what? If I were to run on any platform, mine would be make chips cheap again.

[Lacy Mosley]

Make chips cheap again. I would vote for that.

[Shea Coulee]

25 cents. That's all a bag of personal chips should cost.

[Lacy Mosley]

I know. They're like, this big, and they're full of air. Yes. And so if we're gonna keep em packed with air, they should be 25 cents. See, this is something that I feel like would unite the country.

[Shea Coulee]

Hello. Cause that's still a markup. You still gonna be making money off those chips.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly.

[Shea Coulee]

So that's. You know, I'm sick of being scammed over my chips, too.

[Lacy Mosley]

I feel like that's a great campaign platform, honestly.

[Shea Coulee]

Thank you.

[Lacy Mosley]

You know, something everybody can get behind. Like, how could you be contentious about that? Right. But you. I'd be surprised, because in America, I feel like there's somebody be like, my granddaddy loves not having chips.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. His sodium intake is too high.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right.

[Shea Coulee]

He don't need no more chips.

[Lacy Mosley]

You trying to kill my granddaddy?

[Shea Coulee]

Well, who did your granddaddy vote for?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, we know who your granddaddy votes. We know. Oh, my goodness. Well, yes, I agree with you on scamming up and scamming, like, the systems that are already scamming us. And that's what we advocate for here. I mean, I don't encourage it for legal reasons. For legal reasons.

[Shea Coulee]

For legal reason.

[Lacy Mosley]

If you learn a tip or something, if you allegedly. Allegedly, then that's not. You know what I mean?

[Shea Coulee]

That's just playing the game that you have involuntarily been forced to participate in.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. Like, sometimes people are inspiration for you, and they're not doing crime.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, Elizabeth Holmes looks. Steve Jobs, turtlenecks, you know? But Steve didn't make her make the tiny thing.

[Shea Coulee]

Exactly. And little Miss Anna Delvey, she loved her little ankle bracelet.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly.

[Shea Coulee]

She was out there on Dancing with the Stars.

[Lacy Mosley]

So, look, I will never forget that she really had a resurgence.

[Shea Coulee]

She did.

[Lacy Mosley]

I want to meet her so badly. I was on Good Morning America, and they were like, who would you want to meet? And I was like, michael, I need to meet Anna. Like, I need her to tap on that ankle bracelet and come see me, because I just need to be around her.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

I need to know. I just want to know what she does so that I can like who she chooses as a target so I can be less of that in the world.

[Shea Coulee]

You know, from what I've seen, it looks like really rich white men who all deserve to be scammed because they. I know that they all scammed people to get where they are. So it is kind of like their version of paying taxes.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's true. The hardest thing about the rich white man scam is that some of it's already baked in. Yeah. It's like they really didn't have to do much. They were born looking like that. You got a full head of hair. That means you got charisma.

[Shea Coulee]

Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

And, you know, they say things and maybe they're not even trying to. Maybe they're just speaking what they want into the world. They're like, yeah, I would like all of your money.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, you agree, right? And people just give it to em.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm like, you know what? I do agree. Here you go.

[Shea Coulee]

This makes sense.

[Lacy Mosley]

What was I doing with my money in my bank account when I'm supposed to be giving it to you?

[Shea Coulee]

I was giving it to you. Yeah. No, those, man. Yeah. There's nothing more dangerous than a good looking white man with a full head of hair. They will get things that they do not deserve.

[Lacy Mosley]

Have you ever encountered a scam in your own personal life?

[Shea Coulee]

Yes. I mean, God, I would say probably one of my favorite scams that I have participated in multiple times would be RuPaul's Drag Con. They put the con in DragCon, baby.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's capital C O, N, baby.

[Shea Coulee]

You get, girl, like, you get there as like a queen or a vendor, and I kid you not, at every single turn they were like, oh, you need like a stanchion for your booth. That's gonna be $300. Oh, oh, oh. You need an outlet for power. That's gonna be $300.

[Lacy Mosley]

You need electricity. That's great.

[Shea Coulee]

Okay, yeah. Oh, oh. Do you need wifi so that you can like run your square at the. That's gonna be $200. And you're just like, whoa. And they're like, oh, you're trying to use another device on the wi fi. That's gonna be another $200. Like the scamonomics that go on good old. And it turns into like trickle down scamonomics. Because then I have to scam the fans.

[Lacy Mosley]

You have to pass the scammings down to them?

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, I have to pass the scam down to them. So I'm just like, yeah, you gotta pay. You gotta buy $50 worth of my merchandise to come and get a picture with me. So then that's my little scam, you know?

[Lacy Mosley]

But you were forced into that because you already gotta pay booth fees, right?

[Shea Coulee]

Breathe.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, you wanna breathe air? That's gonn. We didn't know you wanna breathe when you came in here, right?

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, you wanna hug? That's gonna be another 75. Like, you know, So I would say, yes, that's probably one of my favorite scams that I have participated in.

[Lacy Mosley]

I would argue that's more of a hustle than a scam because they're hustling you and then like, you gotta pass a little bit of the hustle down. So that you can make your hustle money back. True. I think that for me, the definition of a scam is when two people enter an agreement and one person walks away not receiving what they were promised or what was agreed upon.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And that could work in many different fashions. That could be a romance scam. That could be, you know, somebody robbing you. That could be a Ponzi scheme. Like, all of these things where we promise something and then the other person walks away feeling duped. So I feel like DragCon. Everybody's living, everybody's getting their life. Everybody's on Twitter fighting afterwards because of remarks, which is my favorite part is to get into people's, like, Twitter beats

[Shea Coulee]

and be like, the Twitter beats.

[Lacy Mosley]

What about the girls?

[Shea Coulee]

When Gia Gunn said that there was no glamour at dragcon, everyone was so upset, and I was just all like, baby, I don't feel upset about that because she didn't see me.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right.

[Shea Coulee]

So obviously that's why she didn't see any glamour, because she didn't see me.

[Lacy Mosley]

And, I mean, she's gonna get the people going. And she got people going. She was. I was all in the thread. I wasn't even at DragCon. I was like, ooh, so funny.

[Shea Coulee]

I was laughing myself. And I was just like, why are y' all letting this girl get you so upset? It's just her little opinion.

[Lacy Mosley]

She was real mad also. Like, queens, like.

[Shea Coulee]

Like, that's what we do, so. Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

But they were, like, rallying the troops. I'm like, is this a. Is this a change.org?

[Shea Coulee]

well, that's what I'm saying. I was like, literally, she struck a chord with some of y'.

[Lacy Mosley]

All.

[Shea Coulee]

So I'm like, maybe you do need to up your glamour.

[Lacy Mosley]

Seems like that wasn't glamour.

[Shea Coulee]

It feels like y' all were feeling kind of clocked, and that's why you were feeling so sensitive about it.

[Lacy Mosley]

A hit dog. Gon holla.

[Shea Coulee]

Gon holla.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's what it's giving. Very much so. But I love that your scams are great. I love the scam of dragcon. I do think dragcon's more of a hustle, because I do love as everyone. Yeah. And everyone comes and they get what they want. It would be different if I came and I went to your booth, and instead of Shea Coulee, it was Shea Kool Aid, you know? And I was like, where is Shea?

[Shea Coulee]

Right? You thought that you were gonna get a meet and greet with Shea, but you got Shea.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, you gotta read the fine print. It said, Shea Aid. It even said, oh yeah, like small print.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Lacy Mosley]

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[Shea Coulee]

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[Lacy Mosley]

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[Shea Coulee]

now, ma', am, I'm clocking that iPhone cord that is very like.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I can tell you which one it is. That's definitely for like a 12 and down.

[Shea Coulee]

It is. Because I have an 11. I'm just right. I have an 11. So I do have that lightning cord. And I was just like, that's exactly what that is. That's exactly what that is. Yeah, that was in his junk drawer. And he went just.

[Lacy Mosley]

He really didn't give it much effort. I mean, his eyes are tape and

[Shea Coulee]

that's masking tape too. But like, that's not even like medical grade tape. Like, that is like masking tape.

[Lacy Mosley]

And he was like, you know what?

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, girl. And so we'll get into it. But literally off of this photo alone. I do not want to victim blame anybody, but.

[Lacy Mosley]

But I wouldn't look at this photo.

[Shea Coulee]

I do have two working eyes and mama. Yeah, that's an iPhone charger.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's not giving. And also, like. But what if he put a little makeup on around his eyes? Or do you think his eyes were just naturally that red? Cause it could.

[Shea Coulee]

It's giving that his eyes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Hospital drag. No, no. Okay, so who is this guy? His name is DJ Carey and he's one of Ireland's most respected sportsmen. He's been described as Ireland's messy or pele. So he's one of the best hurlers ever. A superstar of hurling. What is hurling? Don't worry about it because I don't know what it is either. Can we see an example of hurling? I want to see a.

[Shea Coulee]

He has very hairy forearms.

[Lacy Mosley]

He does. Wow. They're distracting.

[Shea Coulee]

Like. Yeah, that was literally the. I was like, well, damn.

[Lacy Mosley]

He would get a ball over me. Cause I'd be like, what is going on with his hair? Just fly back.

[Shea Coulee]

All the hair left his head and went straight to his forearms.

[Lacy Mosley]

Dang. That's really what happened.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

I would be mad as hell if I went bald and I saw my forearms had all My hair on them.

[Shea Coulee]

Like once you're like, why are you there?

[Lacy Mosley]

Why would my body do that? Why are you scurrying away from my head? Wow.

[Shea Coulee]

His body knew.

[Lacy Mosley]

So in ancient Gaelic. It's like an ancient Gaelic sport that's really hard to describe. It's kind of like field hockey slash lacrosse slash an egg and spoon race. And here's a pretty moving video that basically explains it. So we're learn what hurling is right now with this video. Hurling. They're running.

[Shea Coulee]

Okay, catch with your.

[Lacy Mosley]

He's got a. But he catches with his hand. Fastest game on grass. They say they moving pretty slow though. Okay. Seems like they're just dancing with each other. All right, we got a hit. And it's going into a net.

[Shea Coulee]

Uh huh. Okay, so. Okay, so not John 3:7. They said, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Why is that there?

[Shea Coulee]

That is not. I want to know what Bible verse that is.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. What is John 3:7? We don't get reception in here.

[Shea Coulee]

What is the message?

[Lacy Mosley]

What's John 3:7? I ain't been to church in a minute. No, I thought John 3:7.

[Shea Coulee]

Jesus tells Nicodemus, you should not be surprised at my saying, you must be born again. Or do not marvel that I said to you, you must be born again.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, so this person was just at the match like with their own agenda.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, they were like, they were like, accept Jesus into your heart and hurl. They said, I could tell that you are not hurling with the love of Christ. And they were like, you need to.

[Lacy Mosley]

You need to be hurling in his. Okay. That's why you're not winning the game. Okay. Okay, we'll take it. Okay.

[Shea Coulee]

That's a big ass sign for that, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm like, this feels irrelevant. Well, all right, so in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, DJ Carey, I don't like that his name is DJ Carey. Cause it's making me feel like he's like a urker.

[Shea Coulee]

Right?

[Lacy Mosley]

But he's not.

[Shea Coulee]

See? But I do love that his last name is Carrie. Because this whole situation, this whole scam is a Carrie. It is that like that. I was like, okay, that's fitting.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right? Right. He told everybody who he was. So DJ Carey was a five time All Ireland winner and multiple all star in hurling. One of the most decorated and acclaimed people to ever play the sport. So he's like the Michael Jordan of hurling, you know what I mean? He's just, he's just doing it. He's just hurling it. We got a video of DJ playing a little bit and let's see if DJ was any good. But in the meantime, we just know that he's a household name in Ireland. And now he's even more famous for something else. And obviously I love Ireland. I shoot there and I have on a Celtic necklace. Yes, I really bought in. Okay, what's the crack? Having a good crack. Crack here is, you know, crack, but their crack is, like, fun and, like, laughter. Having a good crack. So we got a little video here of dj. Let's see if DJ is as good as they say. Apart from an All Ireland medal, the

[Shea Coulee]

greatest honor a player can receive in any one year is an All Star award. And no hurler has received more of these than DJ Carey.

[Lacy Mosley]

Our next two clips demonstrate just why. The first is from the Guinness.

[Shea Coulee]

Thank you so much for the close.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right. Oh, the Irish accent is pretty strong. I, I, I can get most of them, but some I do be like, this is English, but I'm not.

[Shea Coulee]

And I'm smiling about this cla team. Wonderful cohesion from goalkeeper up the corner forward.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay.

[Shea Coulee]

They run in great spirit and determination in their ranks as well.

[Lacy Mosley]

Which one is he? What number is he? Oh, that's it.

[Shea Coulee]

Still dj. That's one they've needed.

[Lacy Mosley]

And the crowd goes wild. Oh, there's John 3:7 again. John 3:7 is at every gang.

[Shea Coulee]

What the hell is their obsession with Jesus and Nicodemus? Like girl.

[Lacy Mosley]

What? Also girl got the same sign. It's the same sign. They pulling it out for every match.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. They leave it in its own little case in the basement with the Christmas tree. And then they bust it out when they go to the hurling matches.

[Lacy Mosley]

Another hurling match where Where John at?

[Shea Coulee]

Bust out the banner.

[Lacy Mosley]

We can't leave without John.

[Shea Coulee]

That is so wild.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, so now we're hurling experts. We totally know everything about it.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

And we're excited. So the business gets in a little bit of trouble. Being a superstar hurler didn't inherently pay that much money since it's still a club sport. But his fame did open doors to sponsorships, so sportscasting was happening for him. He was getting sport commenting gigs as well as coaching positions. So he was getting like a little side hustle going. Cause I didn't know about hurling until I was today years old.

[Shea Coulee]

Truly did not know about hurling until I was today years old.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. So he, he needed a side hustle for sure. I can't imagine being like a famous hurler. And then I, like, see you, like, I don't know, like on the side of the street corner at the at the roundabout. Like you want some flowers, right? Like you gotta have side, right? Like you're supposed to be famous. So during and after his hurling career, he also met multiple cleaning. And he had like, multiple cleaning and janitorial businesses. So, okay, he's. He's using his money wisely, starting a little business. The primary one being DJ Carey Enterprises, a cleaning supplies business headquartered in his hometown of Goran. Now, why would you call it DJ Carey Enterprises? That doesn't tell me what you do. No, that's a scamming ass name, girl.

[Shea Coulee]

Too vague.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like you're supposed to be like, DJ Clary's Cleaning or. It don't say cleaning. Nothing says cleaning.

[Shea Coulee]

That is kind of like one of those like, like real housewives entities.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Shea Coulee]

When like there's like a housewife that's like, yeah, I own my own business and it's called Fierce Girl Enterprises. And you're like, what do they do? What do they do?

[Lacy Mosley]

Girl boss, conglomerate.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, my God. Like, I. I don't even remember the name of the business. But, like, recently it was like Salt Lake City reunion. Heather said something to Lisa about like, and what is your business? Blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know what they. And Lisa was like, we create experiences at my business. We create experiential activations. And I was like, okay, you're scamming people.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yo, anytime somebody says experience an activation

[Shea Coulee]

in the same, you know, they on some bullshit.

[Lacy Mosley]

What do y' all do? What? But what do y' all do? What we told you. We activate the experience. Okay? Who is gonna get it active if we don't?

[Shea Coulee]

Hello? Right? She said, cause the experience is just sitting there waiting for me to come and activate it.

[Lacy Mosley]

To activate it, okay? It's sitting there dormant, right?

[Shea Coulee]

She said, like a perm. You need that activator first to make it popular.

[Lacy Mosley]

Get it popping.

[Shea Coulee]

Okay?

[Lacy Mosley]

That's why you need our enterprises.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, hello.

[Lacy Mosley]

So initially, DJ ran these businesses with his wife Christine. In 2001, DJ's sister Katrina, who was a former international hockey and women's hurling star. Damn, y' all gotta athletic ass family. What is this, the curse?

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, okay, sister.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, sis looks like she can really get down, right?

[Shea Coulee]

She's kinda scared of her. Like, no, I would want her next to me in a pub fight. Like, you know she throw down. You know she throw down. Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, Shanley, she throwing bones.

[Shea Coulee]

Hello.

[Lacy Mosley]

We in there.

[Shea Coulee]

I'm gonna have her, like, just standing just like right off my left shoulder. And I'm like, and what? Cause my girl will handle You. That's why we got this enterprise activated right now. Yeah, yeah, right. She's about to activate an ass whooping right in this. Hello.

[Lacy Mosley]

What about that? So the sister came in and replaced Christine, who was his wife, because they were getting a divorce. So now the wife is like, I'm leaving the business because I'm divorcing you. So the sister stepped in, probably after getting in a little fight with the wife. Join business. Bop, bop, bop. So then in 2009, DJ switched it up again, replacing his sister with millionaire girlfriend Sarah Newman as his business partner. Sarah is famous in Ireland for being an investor on the show Dragon's Den version of Shark Tang.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, okay. Got you.

[Lacy Mosley]

So I love a bootleg shark tank, right, Dragon? I thought it was gonna be a Game of Thrones spin off.

[Shea Coulee]

That's where I thought we were going.

[Lacy Mosley]

All right, let me see a little Dragon's Den. But will it be good enough for our dragons?

[Shea Coulee]

As the partner of Kilkenny legend DJ Carrie, Sarah is no ingenue in this area, as she is quick to demonstrate.

[Lacy Mosley]

Street doggy. I'm Sarah. How are you?

[Shea Coulee]

Goodness.

[Lacy Mosley]

She's looking at it. There is absolutely a shortage of ash.

[Shea Coulee]

Yep.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. So that's why a lot of hurley makers are moving abroad. I know, because I. I set one up in Slovakia myself. Oh. So they need ass to make the hurley That's. That's thick, but that's okay.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

I happen to know for a fact that people will travel from all over Ireland to certain counties to buy hurls. So I like your idea.

[Shea Coulee]

Okay, so when they say ash, do they mean, like. Cause is it, like, the way that we think of ash? Or do the Irish have a slang for ash that means something else? Ash.

[Lacy Mosley]

Wood.

[Shea Coulee]

So it's a type of wood. Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I'm glad you said that, because they got some little words for everything, honey.

[Shea Coulee]

That's why I always wanted. Double check.

[Lacy Mosley]

They're like, you got your jumper. I'm like, why can't y' all just say coat? They have their little cutesy little words for things where I be like, what's that?

[Shea Coulee]

One of my favorite things. Cause, like, you know, they like they underwear they call pants, and then pants they call knickers. And I'll be like, what you call me? Every time?

[Lacy Mosley]

That accent.

[Shea Coulee]

So every time. And I just love watching the color drain from their face. They say, oh, my goodness.

[Lacy Mosley]

They're the least likely.

[Shea Coulee]

That's why I say our favorite.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like the black people of white people, they are the only ones who understand the pressure they do. And they really stand out business.

[Shea Coulee]

They really do.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, potato family really stuck with them. They can't let it go when I'm over there. Like, they will put potatoes. Potatoes with any damn thing. I'm not even joking. You get a tuna pokey, it's gonna be a potato around there. I don't know why, right? I'm like, I don't know why, but it's gonna be there. Cause they're like, we stand on the

[Shea Coulee]

pot of these potatoes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Make it rain, girl, like, everywhere.

[Shea Coulee]

I mean, I do love a potato.

[Lacy Mosley]

I mean, they make it in there. I done had it every way.

[Shea Coulee]

And honestly, you gonna get it every way possible.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mashed, scalloped, hashed, fried, baked, baked. Like, anything that they could do to it, they done did.

[Shea Coulee]

You know, potatoes are really diverse. I love, you know, all the things that you could do with a potato.

[Lacy Mosley]

So, like, show me.

[Shea Coulee]

Show me the way.

[Lacy Mosley]

So as a couple now, because this is Sarah, and we just watched her Dragon's Den. And I kind of also like her on Dragon's Den. Cause she was getting a little cunty, like, cadence. She was like, well, we all out of ash.

[Shea Coulee]

And I think that I myself have outsourced to Slovakia.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was like, people will come all over Ireland. Okay, maybe I need a hurling stick.

[Shea Coulee]

What is this?

[Lacy Mosley]

What's crazy is that the whole tone seemed like, so no. And then she's like, yes, right.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, exactly. Very.

[Lacy Mosley]

That very girl boss of just having the tone of no. But then being like, I love was very Miranda Priestly.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes. That's all icon. That's all.

[Lacy Mosley]

So as a couple, DJ and Sarah, our icon, bought a number of investment and personal properties as far as Switzerland. So they got Chalet Grace, which was named after Sarah's daughter. That was like a luxurious $12 million Swiss holiday home overlooking the Mediterranean, or Matterhorn, rather. And you know how you need a $12 million home looking over to Matterhorn?

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, Absol. Absolutely. I mean, I just. Just finished the remodel on my $12 million home overlooking the. What's it called? Macaroon.

[Lacy Mosley]

Matterhorn. The macaroon. The macaron.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Look at the macaron, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I bought the property off Temu. So it was supposed to be Matterhorn,

[Shea Coulee]

but it is macaron. And I spent $12 million, and the whole house fits on top of a macaron.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh. So clearly, they balling out, they got. And I'm remembering now that, I mean, DJ Carey, he had his side hustle businesses. We haven't really Learned how much money he was making off of it with the word enterprise in it. I'm not seeing maybe that's much. However, obviously, Sarah is in this Shark, Dragons, douche,

[Shea Coulee]

Dragons Den, Dragon's Den.

[Lacy Mosley]

And she clearly has an interest in hurling because she's, like, purchasing things with Ashwood. She know all about Ashwood. She going to Slovakia.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. And now I'm gonna be looking into Ashford being like, okay. What? That's so special.

[Lacy Mosley]

So he is still the most famous person in hurling. So that's how you could probably pull a baddie who can, you know, drop 12 mil on a Switzerland home with the macaron.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Matterhorn.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Catriona. Is that how you say that? Katrina. Oh, when was it spelled like that? Oh, yeah, I forgot. This is, like, how there's some Irish names that, like, you read them and then they don't. They're not what they are. So everybody knows Siobhan, Like, S, I, B, O, H, A, N. Yes. Saoirse.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

S, O, A, I, I, S, Eoiron, and I love you. But the reason for that is the Irish Alphabet doesn't have as many letters as the English Alphabet. So a lot of times they put two letters together to make a different sound. So I had to really learn. Like, I would be reading people's names, and I was hooked on five, like. Cause that's how I was reading the names.

[Shea Coulee]

Cause I'm like, but y', all, you guys, you still speak English. So that's the thing. That's crazy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Listen, I just got beef with the British, so they was like, we're not stopping what we did.

[Shea Coulee]

They said, you know what? Some of these letters are getting the chop. They're like, we don't need all of those.

[Lacy Mosley]

And, girl, bye, girl. Bye. Okay. And that. And honestly, I love it for em. I love it for him. Most people in Ireland speak English or some form of English.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

But there is, like, still Gaelic. Gaelic on every street. And the funny thing about Gaelic is it's, like, English characters. But I couldn't read none of that shit.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, yeah. None of that shit. Yeah. Like, I am totally not validating the fact that they do have their Gaelic roots and that that, in and of itself is a different language. Oh.

[Lacy Mosley]

The British colonized them and held all.

[Shea Coulee]

See, and look at me. Me over here, just buying into the colonizer and their propaganda that everyone in Ireland just has always spoken English. You see how the scam just, like, permeates, and it's insidious. It really is.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, they had to educate me, I didn't know I wrote these letters next to these letters. Cause I. And they. And they told me and I was

[Shea Coulee]

like, oh, you're like, okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

They also know a lot about their history. They don't erase their history like we do over here. Like when I tell you the average Irish person could tell me when that bridge was made or like, oh, this is where the original. I'm like, how do y' all all look casually.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, how do y' all all know everything about your history?

[Shea Coulee]

They have a good schooling system.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. They be educated.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. They really be teaching the kids.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's crazy. They want their kids to know stuff.

[Shea Coulee]

I know. Isn't that wild?

[Lacy Mosley]

Kids knowing stuff.

[Shea Coulee]

It's so crazy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Kids are supposed to know about paying taxes.

[Shea Coulee]

Right? Kids are supposed to.

[Lacy Mosley]

In the minds. Yeah.

[Shea Coulee]

To just like know about like contributing to capitalism. Yes. Corporate America and capitalism. Like, that's all that really matter.

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Shea Coulee]

Another day, another buzz delayed.

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Shea Coulee]

Oh, my God.

[Lacy Mosley]

And like, you be a news anchor. But they also had people who were doordash. They had kids doing cosplay. Doordash.

[Shea Coulee]

No, I. Girl, look, I do not know what I would do if I ordered a doordash and like, a third grader brought it to my door. I would be like, where is your mama? What are you doing here?

[Lacy Mosley]

Five stars, right?

[Shea Coulee]

I'm like, I'm calling cps. What the hell are you doing here? Should you be at school?

[Lacy Mosley]

Right, But I do know that kids do like to cosplay as adults, but this, to me, feels a bit extreme because these are like, name brands that are on these stores and they really are making these kids be employed.

[Shea Coulee]

And are these kids getting compensated or are they're all like, it's just a game.

[Lacy Mosley]

Their conversation is joy.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, right. Cause they're trying. They are trying to. They are trying to condition them at a young age to be like, don't you love this work? Don't you just love doordashing?

[Lacy Mosley]

And don't you love not getting like money for it?

[Shea Coulee]

Right. Isn't that your dream

[Lacy Mosley]

starting earlier and earlier? Oh my goodness. But yeah. So anyways, this is one of the things I've always just been like, what? But also like, it looks kind of cool.

[Shea Coulee]

I don't know.

[Lacy Mosley]

So Katrina had a huge falling out with dj. Remember dj? And he's got his wife Sarah with the money they got the chalets. And Katrina, who was his former. Yeah, former business partner, also his sister, they had a huge falling out when she was forced out of the company. Well, duh, that's your sister. And you forced her out of the company. I hope that falling out came with her hitting you with one of them hurling sticks because she looked like she could fight.

[Shea Coulee]

She said you could get some of this ass, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

I'mma beat your ass. So to get back at him, she set up a rival cleaning company called Carrie Cleaning Supplies with their sister Liz and mom, also headquartered in Goran, which should have been the cleanest town in Ireland by now because they're all. Now we got all these cleaning companies in Goran. At least the sister put in Kerry Cleaning Supplies.

[Shea Coulee]

That's what I'm saying. Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

Cause now we know what you're doing.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, we know what you're doing.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, I don't know what DJ Carey Enterprise is doing. No. So we can already tell somebody's up. So in 2011, DJ Carey Enterprises, along with his other cleaning business companies all went bankrupt. Surprise, surprise, baby. Nobody knew what you did. Yeah, the website was, DJ Carey Enterprise, we do stuff for you, right?

[Shea Coulee]

No, no. And it totally like, I was just waiting for the bankruptcy. Cause I was just all like, what are you even doing? What is your business model like, please.

[Lacy Mosley]

And quickly.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, quickly.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, they were like, we install activations, right?

[Shea Coulee]

Uh huh.

[Lacy Mosley]

So the same year, commercial court ordered DJ and Sarah to repay about $10 million in property loans to Allied Irish banks. So that same year that he goes bankrupt. See, this is why you can't get with a man, lady. Sarah, you was popping off on Dungeons and Dragons, Sharks and Tanks, and you got money for a $12 million house. And now all of a sudden you tied to married to a bankruptcy. And the court is also ordering you to repay about $10 million in property loans to Allied Irish Banks. In 2012, DJ and Sarah separated. I mean, duh, you gotta get away from this man. He has. Woo. Right, Listen, you gotta be making my life better if you're gonna come into it as a man. As a woman, I believe in your potential. As a man, I need you to already have way more than I do.

[Shea Coulee]

You have so much to prove. Yeah, you have so much to prove.

[Lacy Mosley]

Because the chances of you making my life worse are just way too high.

[Shea Coulee]

Like, I mean, with most men, the bar is already underneath the floor.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Shea Coulee]

So it's just like with men.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's like, you wake up, baby, y' all slept together for the first time, and you know he's leaving, and you look over in your purse, and you like, he didn't take any money out of my wallet. Oh, my God.

[Shea Coulee]

He's a keeper.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God.

[Shea Coulee]

But then you look at your closet and then realize that he took your Margiela tabby shoes.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I can't believe that man did that and gifted them to his girlfriend. Be serious, sir. I will never forget that story. Yes. Cause she saw the girl in her tabbies and was like, baby, those are my shoes. Also, girlfriend, I'm looking at you as well. Cause this is feeling like a scam that y' all were doing together. It's a scheme that Todd set up, because who is. Who's who in their right mind? Their man comes home with some shoes that definitely look like feet been up in him, and it's like, baby, I got you these new tabbies. What? And you just put them on your feet? No box, no tissue paper, no nothing?

[Shea Coulee]

What in the Cinderella is going on here? What? What?

[Lacy Mosley]

What? He was. He. Look, he was Prince Charming, all right? Charming you right out of your shoe.

[Shea Coulee]

That's right. Charmed you right out of your new tabby shoe.

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't know what I. I don't think I could get back in dating if I. If. If I dated, if I slept with somebody and they stole my shoes.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And gave them to another woman. Even if he had pawned them, I would have felt better about that. Yes, but you stole my shoes. I had to see him on another bitch. She walking a mile in my shoes. Literally.

[Shea Coulee]

Right? No, no.

[Lacy Mosley]

That would be my 13th reason.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. I'd be, like, done.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I love that she shared that with us, because I would have took that to the grave. Right. Jesus couldn't get that out of me. Right? I mean, the pearly gates. Like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. No. They could not waterboard that information out of me.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mm. Mm. So in 2012, you know, DJ and Sarah separated. Sarah, Good for you. Get away from that, man. That's when some very convenient health issues started to appear. I know. You guys were wondering, like, DJ ain't got to the cancer yet, but now we're getting there, so. Cancer trouble. This is where I can't stand with dj. I'm okay with the enterprises and things like that, but I'm very sensitive when it comes to faking real illnesses that people suffer with that take the lives of so many. And obviously, like, a lot of us, many of us, if not all of us, have been affected by it. I don't want to bring the podcast down, but I do want to say that just so you know that we're not being insensitive about this topic, but I'm about to get on DJ ass, so.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, yeah, I'm about to hop right in there with you and get on his ass about this one.

[Lacy Mosley]

So initially, DJ told people he had multiple myeloma, a rare and treatable but incurable blood cancer that is actually what

[Shea Coulee]

my dad died from.

[Lacy Mosley]

No.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, Multiple myeloma. So I'm really gonna get on your ass, dj. I'm about to drag the sh out of you, sir.

[Lacy Mosley]

I did not know that, Shay. Yeah, I am so sorry.

[Shea Coulee]

And it's a very. It's a very rare. It's like, you know, and it's really aggressive. And, you know, my dad went through multiple treatments, even, including, like, a stem cell transplant, like, all of that. So I have seen firsthand, like, how terrible multiple myeloma is.

[Lacy Mosley]

So.

[Shea Coulee]

So for him to that little. Okay, okay, dj, let's go.

[Lacy Mosley]

Uh. Oh.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, my word's about to be open.

[Lacy Mosley]

So he said that he was receiving blood transfusions and hormone injections overseas in the US and needed money to travel there and back. There was no big news stories where he went on the record about his health, but he called and texted friends and fans and fellow athletes to tell the them the news personally. So, remember, he used to be famous athlete, so he didn't try to exploit the general public and media because the receipts would have come so quickly. They would have been having pop, pop paparazzi, you know, out in front of, you know, the King center waiting for them. So when people asked why he had to go so far away for treatment, he said he had gone to a hospital in Dublin and they flooded his lungs and he had ongoing malpractice suit against, um,

[Shea Coulee]

so my guy. They flooded his lungs, so they drowned you.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, what did. Girl, what does that mean? What?

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, I'm like, did they hold you underwater in the bathtub until you could no longer breathe? Like, what do you mean they flood. Flooded your lungs?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, Like I said, I don't like it when a man. What?

[Shea Coulee]

What?

[Lacy Mosley]

So this sounds vague.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

But people trusted DJ when he asked for money for medical treatment because he was a household name and widely viewed as a decent man, mind you, he just. Okay, I guess his. His enterprises did go bankrupt. They weren't. Weren't like fraudulent. They just went out of business.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

And bankrupt is like the get out of jail free for rich people.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, I ain't got it, y'. All. And then they hide their assets, right? They're like, the business ain't got it. And I'm like, isn't that a $40,000 watch on our arm? This whole thing, this is my walking around. This is not my ap. Like, what do you mean you ain't got it? Yeah. So people were trusting him because he was famous and because famous equals good person. Mm. You know how famous equal good is?

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, yes, because every single famous person is famously a good person.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mm.

[Shea Coulee]

I mean, just look at Nicki Minaj.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my goodness. I was just thinking about, like, the best person I know in rap, and Nicki popped up immediately. I was like, the choices she makes.

[Shea Coulee]

I know.

[Lacy Mosley]

You know, the people she marries, right?

[Shea Coulee]

Uh huh. The presidents that she supports. I'm just waiting for her sainthood, for her to finally be, you know, become a saint. Saint.

[Lacy Mosley]

Saint Nicholas. Which makes sense. Cause he ain't real either.

[Shea Coulee]

Girl, I don't even care.

[Lacy Mosley]

The barbs. Y' all come after me. Y' all unemployed. Y' all ain't got no damn jobs.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, y' all ain't got no damn jobs in no damn sense at all. Ain't nobody scared or worried about none of y'.

[Lacy Mosley]

All. And they gonna deport your good sis. As soon as that orange man is gonna talk about some gold card girl, come get her. So back to trustworthy dj. He's such a good guy celebrity. They trusted him. And as far as actual evidence of his illness, he faked medical records and images. So this is a medical record that he had.

[Shea Coulee]

Had.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's on. It's on a letterhead.

[Shea Coulee]

I've faked things with letterheads that I went and got from the Internet. Like, it is very, very easy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Does it look. Can we zoom in on it? What does it say?

[Shea Coulee]

She's like, illegible.

[Lacy Mosley]

Dear. Dear.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, his name is Dennis.

[Lacy Mosley]

Dennis. Okay. This whole time you've been dj, Dennis care.

[Shea Coulee]

What's his middle name? James.

[Lacy Mosley]

Dear. Dennis.

[Shea Coulee]

Jonathan.

[Lacy Mosley]

Jobless.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, Jobless.

[Lacy Mosley]

Dear Dennis, thank you for attending the Fred Cruz claim Yesterday. This is what it says. Can you read it, Jess? Oh, it's just blurry. Okay. For a second, I thought I was failing an eye exam. Well, anyway, so it's like, dear James, thank you for attending this, and this is very legit, and you are definitely sick.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Let's see some. This is definitely an iPhone cord. You know what's pissing me off the most about this is, like, Dennis, if you're gonna do a fake cord, can you at least stick the charging part of it all the way up your nose? I can see where the. Where the plugin is.

[Shea Coulee]

And here's the thing with those oxygen tubes. When are they ever opaque? They're always clear.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Cause you need to see.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, they're always, always clear.

[Lacy Mosley]

And isn't it usually more than one? And if he's trying to say, like, this is a cancer port, wouldn't it be on your chest?

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. And also, I'm like, those ones, like. Cause sometimes they do do, like, the single, like, nostril. But that's normally, if it's to go, like, back down your throat to add, like, you know, like a pathway, like, down into your actual airway. The ones with the two are where, you know, you can. You are able to breathe pretty well, and you could just kind of breathe through your nose. But then they do do those single ones that they tape in that go all the way up. And, like.

[Lacy Mosley]

So he did a little bit of research.

[Shea Coulee]

I mean, he saw a picture of somebody and then was just like, yeah, I think I can recreate this. But, like, you could have, like, you literally could have gone to, like, petsmart and got, like, one of the clear tubes from that they use for, like, in an aquarium, you know, for, like, the oxygen that you use in your aquarium.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right, okay. See, you know, this is a little. You knew where to get this a little too fast.

[Shea Coulee]

Look.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, I was gonna say Joann's fabrics or something, but you were like, no. So you go to the petsmart. You go to the aquarium aisle. You talk to Dan.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, exactly.

[Lacy Mosley]

Do you have an aquarium?

[Shea Coulee]

I did. We, like, me and my partner Dan, funny enough, we had a bubble. We were like, oh, my God, we should get a. Well, first of all, it started off with little. Little. I forget what they're called.

[Lacy Mosley]

Betta fish.

[Shea Coulee]

It was something else. It wasn't the. It wasn't the beta fish. We got, like, little, like. I don't know. I forget what they are. But they look like little lobsters, whatever the hell they are. But they were like, yes, and then. Yes. And then Dan was like, oh, my God. I heard that if you. That, like, betta fish don't bother them because they're like bottom feeders, so you can put a betta fish in the tank with them. And I was just like, but betta fish are like, naturally. They say that. They're really aggressive and blah, blah, blah. He's like, no, I read somewhere that you. We put that betta fish in there. Twenty minutes later, it had, like, eaten all day. And I was just like, well, there they go. They're all dead. Like, watched it murder them.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love it. Dan said, I heard somewhere you just went with that. You never said ask where you were. Like, he said, I said somewhere.

[Shea Coulee]

I heard, yeah, see my baby, he do love to do that. He'd be like, oh, my God, I saw this thing somewhere. And, like, will say it. Like, it is, like, straight up fact.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love that. I'm confident.

[Shea Coulee]

Like, I have to like, now be like, damn, Dan, where, where, where?

[Lacy Mosley]

Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that.

[Shea Coulee]

Like, he told me, he was like, oh, I read you could put the Dutch oven in the dishwasher. No, you can't. You cannot put the Dutch oven in the dishwasher.

[Lacy Mosley]

He heard it somewhere.

[Shea Coulee]

He heard it somewhere in his own mind.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's the source. I know that's the source. He's like, I feel like this should work.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I heard betta fish jump you in when you put a new fish in the tank. They'd be like, squad up. Like, you gotta like, bop, bop, bop, bop. You gotta jump in the gang. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, I always say, though, like, people who own fish could be murderers. So I'm glad y' all got rid of that fish tank. I'm glad it wasn't for you.

[Shea Coulee]

We did.

[Lacy Mosley]

Cause it's a pet that you can't touch. It's a pet that you like. Ah, eat your little flakes. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shea Coulee]

And honestly, I was like, she was around for two days and I was just like, man, I don't want this bitch in my house no more. I was like, give her to your niece. I don't want this bitch around no more. She pissed me off. Murderer.

[Lacy Mosley]

She was a murderer. She got after it. She got active. Right? So as far as, like, the illness, we got the images and the fake medical records. He told people that he was in line for a 1 million euro payout from the HSC, the publicly funded healthcare system in Ireland. He said that those who helped him out financially would get back what he got when that payment came through. So this is so funny to me because this is almost like a Nigerian prince scam that he's running on these people because he's like, I'm going to get my payout, so y' all just flow me, and then when I get my money, like, everybody gonna get paid.

[Shea Coulee]

Mm.

[Lacy Mosley]

So between 2014 and 2022, he took about $400,000 from more than 20 people. And there's no record of DJ ever having cancer or being treated abroad. When Irish police investigated, that was also a smooth part of his plan because he wasn't getting treated in Ireland. So there was nobody who could really check in or go to the hospitals there to see if he was there.

[Shea Coulee]

Well, my. You know, I would have been like, okay, so wait, you're involved in a lawsuit with this hospital? I would have been checking the public records for that lawsuit, because that's.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly.

[Shea Coulee]

That's public when you file. I would have been like, okay, let me be, like, trying to see if I can figure out, like, a case number. Look up his name, look up the hospital, because it's like, okay, well, if this is a suit that he's filing, then he is the person lodging the complaint, so his name will be on it. So I will be looking to see if this lawsuit is legitimate. I can't believe nobody thought to just be like, let me look up and see if this lawsuit is real.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. And he named the hospital. So it's like, you already, right?

[Shea Coulee]

You named the hospital. Ooh. And if I worked at that hospital, babe, if I was a representative at that hospital, you know, I would have been out in the streets being like, liar, shame. Right?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, I would have been right. But we got to get angry moms back. Like, we. We wouldn't need to hit him with an angry mom.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, the shame bell.

[Lacy Mosley]

Shame. Shame, Shame. So the Fred Hutch Hospital in Seattle where DJ claimed to have been treated had no record of him being there. His doctor in Ireland had no record of him ever having cancer. There was no record in any outstanding claim against the HSC or a hospital. And he had not traveled to the US since 20. So when questioned in December of 2022, DJ admitted that he had made up the story about being sick with cancer to buy himself time, as he had substantial debt with Allied Irish banks. Because, remember, they got them million dollar houses that looking over to Montclair.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes. And $10 million that you gotta pay back in loans.

[Lacy Mosley]

So to add insults to talk of injury, medical professionals in Ireland have said there is no need to go abroad for treatment for this type of cancer anyway. And I believe that. I don't know how your experience was with the US medical system here, but we're right.

[Shea Coulee]

Like you going to the US to get treated, that should have been a red flag right there.

[Lacy Mosley]

Really?

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. You want to go over. So you're going to go to the ghetto.

[Lacy Mosley]

You want to hood.

[Shea Coulee]

Hey, get treated. Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

All right, if you say so. So his victims, DJ often targeted well off people that he hardly knew. And he would befriend them or play a few rounds of golf with golf. Where to really get the scams popping.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then he would do all of this before hitting them with the cancer news and then asking for money. One businessman said that he hadn't heard from DJ for 30 years when he got an unsolicited text message from him. What? In the future, right?

[Shea Coulee]

I don't hear from you for 30 years and you randomly gonna hit me up for like 20 bands?

[Lacy Mosley]

I was just thinking about you.

[Shea Coulee]

Right? I was just thinking about you.

[Lacy Mosley]

And remember that one time, old friend, right?

[Shea Coulee]

Remember 30 years? Remember when I got that tab at back when I was hurling. Well, look, baby, Let me hold 20 GS just really quick. It is literally like the same thing

[Lacy Mosley]

if you counted 30 years of inflation. That tab that I paid and these 30, 20 bands I need for you. This gonna work out. Some of DJs targets were asked for a donation for his alleged cancer care. Others were asked for a loan which he promised to repay quickly. So when he said he was suing the hospital, he was like, once I get this payment and this neck brace off, y' all gonna get y' all other people. He was like, can you donate?

[Shea Coulee]

He said, you got it. You just could. You could just. You could just give up.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I feel like. Yeah, yeah. Is a donation. Do you ask for more from the donation person or do you ask for more from the loan person?

[Shea Coulee]

I feel like more from the donation person because you're not gonna be paying that back. But I feel like, I mean, you're not gonna be paying back the loan person either. Cause you're scamming them. But if you were going to have a condo, pensions, and at least try and pay back the people that you said that you're gonna pay back, I would take a smaller loan from them because then I'm like, okay, Leslie, I gotta pay back.

[Lacy Mosley]

There would be less pressure on you from them to get the money back. Yeah, that's a good strategy because I was Thinking like, are people more willing to loan more money or give away more money to me, they're one in the same. Because my mom always said, like, never loan out more money than you're comfortable not receiving back. Yeah.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I don't really loan money anymore.

[Shea Coulee]

Exactly.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Everybody gotta get their own money, right?

[Shea Coulee]

I'm like, I do not.

[Lacy Mosley]

I've done it too much and I'm. I'm good.

[Shea Coulee]

I'll just give you the money.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly.

[Shea Coulee]

And if I. If I feel so inclined to gift it to you, I will do that. But like, I'm like, loans.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, that just leads to resentment because I'm gonna be pocket washing every. If I give you a loan and then I see you getting a pedicure the next day. I'm like, well, dude, that's my pedicure. Those are my toes.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah, that's my laboo. Right?

[Lacy Mosley]

What you mean, right? That's my coffee from the local coffee shop renting.

[Shea Coulee]

Exactly. Yeah. Where that at?

[Lacy Mosley]

You need to be saving back up.

[Shea Coulee]

Right. My toast need done too.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right. You Instagram post. And that's my Instagram post running on me to meet.

[Shea Coulee]

What are you doing on vacation in the Maldives?

[Lacy Mosley]

That's my vacation. What do you mean? So he got more than $100,000 plus a London apartment and a car out of a billionaire. Dennis o'. Brien. This is one person who found a mobile phone network called Digicel. What did you say his name was? I don't know about Digicel. Dennis o', Brien, which is like the most Irish name ever. So this is Dennis o'. Brien. And he. Oh, you take it back. That's how he looks, Shay. He. He looked like he got a lot of money. That code is very tight.

[Shea Coulee]

He do look like he got a lot of money.

[Lacy Mosley]

That coat is very tight, though. He looked like he one stride away from just the buttons being like.

[Shea Coulee]

Right, right. He is one sneeze away from putting some somebody's eye out.

[Lacy Mosley]

So he founded the mobile network Digicel, which I definitely have seen digital in Europe. So at one point, Dennis asked for evidence. And this is Dennis o', Brien, the rich dentist. He asked for evidence of the medical treatment that D.J. was getting. And D.J. gave him letters claiming to be from the Fred Hutch Medical center in Seattle. Later, DJ told Dennis that he had won a handball tournament and that it made him an elite athlete in the US and that the US government will pay for your medical treatment if you're in elite athlete. That's wrong for a couple of reasons. Cuz like the USA paying for shade girl.

[Shea Coulee]

Why would that. And first of all, we don't know what hurling is over here, so. No, they're only doing that if it's football. If they were, it would be football.

[Lacy Mosley]

Handball. So that's something we know. So now he's like, they're going to give me a handball scholarship. You know when you.

[Shea Coulee]

When you say we. No, you mean like people who really.

[Lacy Mosley]

You have a hand and then you have a. And you have a ball and is there a goal? Yeah, it's a high scoring.

[Shea Coulee]

So is that like.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's like soccer where you can lacrosse.

[Shea Coulee]

There's this one sport that all the gay bears like to play. It's not lacrosse. You know, racquetball. No, actually it is lacrosse. I think it is lacrosse.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's probably lacrosse.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. Cause it's kind of like football, but it's like. Yeah, yeah, I think it's like that.

[Lacy Mosley]

So this is handball. So it's kind of like also rugby.

[Shea Coulee]

Rugby. That's what I'm thinking of, Rugby. Thank you. Thank you. That's what the. All the homosexual bears like to play.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's good to know. So at one point, you know, Dennis the rich guy asked about this evidence. D.J. told him, Look, I am now a handball star in the US and the US government is gonna pay for my medical treatment and get it popping. So that's wrong for a couple of reasons. No offense to handballers out there, but it's not a super important sport for us, as Shay has demonstrated by immediate confusion that she not that important to us. And also, the US government is not going to help anyone pay for any kind of medical treatment because it's the US Government. We don't like. The Olympic athletes gotta pay to go over there.

[Shea Coulee]

Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I'm also like, the Olympic athletes had to Flavor Flav had to raise money for a female Olympic athlete to go compete.

[Shea Coulee]

Hello. Hello. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, also, he's not a US Citizen too. And we know how we treat those here.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly.

[Shea Coulee]

So I'm like, you're not gonna be getting.

[Lacy Mosley]

You're not gonna get nothing.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

With some deportation.

[Shea Coulee]

Hello.

[Lacy Mosley]

And. And it's so funny because people train for the Olympics all their lives, and then they make it to the Olympics. And the US Got the nerve to be like, you got some Olympics money, girl. How you getting over there?

[Shea Coulee]

Right? You got the Olympics, but. And then have the nerve to not even give them gold.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then if they get gold, like, other countries will give you a Pretty hefty payout.

[Shea Coulee]

Yes. Like condo. You want a Wheaties box, right? They're like, oh, well, aren't you going to get some sponsorship deals that'll pay?

[Lacy Mosley]

You didn't get a sponsorship. You didn't get that. Oh, oh, dam damn crazy.

[Shea Coulee]

But thank you for bringing the gold home.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, we'll post you on the Instagram. Maybe I get your followers up, we can get you some sponsors. Yeah. So, yeah, you got to go to every other country for some health care. I don't know what the hell he was talking about. So here's the sentencing and fate. So DJ was arrested in 2023 and he pled guilty to defrauding 13 people over a nine year period from early 2014 to late 2022 out of €400,000, which is actually way more than $400,000. So he has repaid €44,000 far. He was sentenced to five and a half years in prison for fraud. His defense lawyer said he was instructed to offer a heartfelt, sincere apology to every victim at his sentencing. He was accompanied in court by a Killarney potato farmer named John Crowley, who is still such a big fan of DJ the Hurler, he can't bring himself to be mad at the man. Now, I will tell you, if there's not a closed caption on this, Shay, you're not gonna. The Killarney accent is pretty strong. I know that one. For I know people from there.

[Shea Coulee]

And I'm not here to stand to defend DJ Carey because you can't defend the defenseless. How can you defend him? Well, he's a friend of mine. Was a friend of mine and still is a friend of mine. He has sinned. He is a sinner. We learned when I was young about forgiveness. I'm a Catholic, not really practiced Catholic much, but I lived strong Catholic values. A lot of those people are very, very angry. I suppose a lot of them are very mad, very angry, very bit I was him. But a lot of people still, they feel a lot of sympathy for them. They remain quiet. They're not like me. I have a big mouth. I always say, guess who's hiding the monies for his friend. They still have a lot of respect for him because we have huge, huge respect as a whole. And we, we, we're probably addicted to Holland. Like, we love a Holland, like.

[Lacy Mosley]

And.

[Shea Coulee]

And

[Lacy Mosley]

he said, look, I'mma stand beside him, right?

[Shea Coulee]

He said, my man, my man, my man, my.

[Lacy Mosley]

He was like, look, everybody sins. I said a prayer for him, right? He's like, forgiveness, y' all forgiveness, y' all forgetting, y'.

[Shea Coulee]

All right? And forgetting. Don't forget to forget.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, no. So he's been letting DJ live in his house for the past six months.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh. Oh, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Lacy Mosley]

So, wait, is it really my mama?

[Shea Coulee]

Me, me, my. Wait, right, so wait, he was. DJ was sentenced when this 2022.

[Lacy Mosley]

He was arrested in 2023. 3.

[Shea Coulee]

And then sentenced to five years. It is only 2026, so he didn't even serve his full sentence. They gave him the Jen Shaw treatment, too. They said, oh, you could do, like, a little bit of time, and then we'll let you out. Ooh, I hate that.

[Lacy Mosley]

So the reason that he was able to live with him was because he was sentenced to five and a half years in prison. But he didn't have to start serving his sentence till shortly after that. So he had six months where he could have lived with his number one supporter, his number one fan, his bestie, Pookie Love bestie.

[Shea Coulee]

Mm. I wonder what that roommate situation was like. Like, was he even a good roommate?

[Lacy Mosley]

And so DJs sister Katrina, who ran the rival cleaning business with their mother, is also awaiting trial in 2027 for money laundering. Bam.

[Shea Coulee]

Oh, she really looks up to her

[Lacy Mosley]

brother because she was like, oh, my brother doing sports. I'm doing professional sports. Oh, my brother got a cleaning company, I got a cleaning company. My brother doing fraud. Let me get some Ryan.

[Shea Coulee]

Let me get a little piece of that, too.

[Lacy Mosley]

She said, looks fun, little sister. Activities. I'mma follow in your footsteps all the way to prison. Oh, be so for real.

[Shea Coulee]

Good news.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my gosh. Well, that brings us to the end of an amazing episode. Shay, we always ask on the show, where would you like to be found?

[Shea Coulee]

Yes, you could find me on Instagram, you can find me on Threads, you can find me on maybe TikTok still for the foreseeable future. YouTube and then Twitch. I will be starting a book club. And then, yeah, you could just catch me out here in these virtual streets normally complaining about this current administration as.

[Lacy Mosley]

As you should, as you call your senators. Yes, pull up on them.

[Shea Coulee]

Yeah. No, for real.

[Lacy Mosley]

As always, guys, you can find me at D I V A L A C I Divalacy on all platforms. If you want to see all of these photos and the amazing drag that DJ did for his cancer moment, you can see those at Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram. And y', all, you can get my book Scam Goddess Pod anywhere The books are sold, including audiobooks. And we are going on a live mini tour, y'. All. We're starting March 26th in Chicago at the House of. Then we are headed April 9th to Irving, Texas where I'll be doing the punchline comedy. I am from Dallas, Texas. Irving, you better show up and show out. Chicago, you already know how we get down so I better see y' all too. April 18th I will be at the Grand Mercy Theater in New York City. You already know it's going up, down and all around. And then finally I will be at the Cobbs Theater and I forgot that date but it's in April and just go click on the link in my bio. Okay? And congregation, I really want y' all to get out there and stay hurling.

[Shea Coulee]

Stay hurling.

[Lacy Mosley]

Scam Goddess Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming. Oh joy.

[Shea Coulee]

Another day, another buzz delayed.

[Lacy Mosley]

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