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The HiStudio Hype House with Chris Gethard
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In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Chris Gethard (The Special Without Brett Davis, Don't Think Twice) to discuss how a CEO created a Hype House style podcasting network that led to lawsuits, trash and fallout. Plus, someone stole more than 42,000 pounds of pistachios in California and that was just nuts. Stay schemin'! (Originally Released 07/12/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Order “Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes" here: Hachette Book Group Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Chris Gethard: @chrisgeth Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.theverge.com/22526502/himalaya-histudios-notorious-llc-podcast-audio-hype-house https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/21/pistachio-theft-alberto-montemayor-touchstone/ https://www.instagram.com/notorious.llc/ https://notorious.llc/creators/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/colette...
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- [00:01]
Lacey Mosley
What's poppin Congregation? It's ya girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the Paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the Paywall. And as always, stay scheming scams. Cause Robbery and Frau Scam Car Robbery and Frau Scam Goddess. What's poppin Congregation? This is the first recording that I've done in my new place, so forgive me if the sound is a scam, but I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try my best. Guys. It's so good. It's so good to hear from you. How are you doing? Yes, that's great. Or oh, that's awful. Or wow, that's boring. Choose which one fits for you guys. I'm. What? I'm super. What? Yes. Excited. Excited for today's guest. Like this. This man is such a hilarious comedian. He's such a smart person. I've like flown around the spaces with him for a while and never gotten to have like an opportunity where I could actually sit down and talk with him other than business stuff. So I'm really excited to have her together on the show today. Guys, you know him as a comedian based out of New Jersey. You know, we love Jersey in the building. Turnpike. Turnpike. He' also can be seen, excuse me, heard on his podcast, which is very popular, beautiful slash anonymous. And he has a special out right now called Half My Life, which is half documentary and half standup special. Guys, get into it and it's out everywhere right now. What space? Chris, Chris, where is this out?
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Chris Gethard
First of all, I have to say I'm a low energy human being and you just blew me out of the water. So I'm gonna do my best to keep up. But yeah, you can get it on itunes and Amazon and YouTube and Vimeo and all those places, all those great places where things happen. Hello. Thank you.
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Lacey Mosley
Half My Life. Chris, thank you so much for being here. I do also have to say I think the audience will appreciate your energy because I've been out here screaming with people for the past few weeks, so they're finally like, oh my God, I'll.
- [02:16]
Chris Gethard
Try to keep up. I have a two year old son though, and I think I actually sound how I usually feel right now. I feel like my voice is blown out where it's accurate. But yeah, I'm just gonna try to keep up because I'm older and I'm Tired, so I'll do my best. How's that for a ringing endorsement of this. That's beautiful fireworks of this episode.
- [02:35]
Lacey Mosley
I love how you're setting it up. And also, like, I'm tired as well. I cannot wait. I didn't. When I moved, I was like, okay, now I get to just lay here and do nothing after my birthday party. And my cousin was like, no, you have to unpack and we have to get furniture for your place before I leave town. I was like, no, I just want to lay here and watch Drag Race. So I am also tired, but yet here we are.
- [02:57]
Chris Gethard
Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
- [02:59]
Lacey Mosley
Thank you. Thank you. I'm actually going to talk about. That's what's hot. And fraud today is me getting scammed in my birthday weekend. But before we get to that, Chris, what's your relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? You like them? Do you hate them? Like, where do you lie on the spectrum?
- [03:13]
Chris Gethard
I would say that I'm pretty gullible and therefore easily scammable.
- [03:18]
Lacey Mosley
Mark.
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Chris Gethard
I have a. I would say a strange combination of like. You did mention that I grew up in New Jersey and I have some North Jersey in me, so I'm very skeptical. But when I. When they get me, I get. Got pretty hard. There's like a couple things that come to mind where I go, okay, I.
- [03:37]
Lacey Mosley
Need to know at least one.
- [03:38]
Chris Gethard
Well, if you want to just get into one is one. You may be able to help me as someone who. Who really is acquainted with these things. First of all, I was part of one, which I understand is a pretty common Internet scam, where I just came home one day. This was when I lived in Queens, okay. And my hallway, there were like 14 gigantic Amazon boxes with my name on them outside my door. Like a big giant tower of boxes. It looked like someone was like trying to build a fort outside my front door. And they were all filled with very low quality protein powder. And I opened them up, I was like, what is happening here? And my understanding is that this is a thing that just happens sometimes, where sometimes somebody on Amazon will just send you a million of the same thing. And I tried to understand what it was something to do with. Now they have the ability to give better reviews to that product as you.
- [04:29]
Lacey Mosley
Yes, Chris, Amen. You know what you're talking about. That's it.
- [04:33]
Chris Gethard
Yeah, I got that one. And. But then the real bad part about that is at the end of the day, it's even like, did I really get scammed? It's just a bunch of stuff showed up at my door. Here's where it gets real annoying. So I had a one bedroom apartment and a baby, and my wife and I live there. And then you call Amazon and they go, oh, well, it's cheaper if you just keep it. And I'm like, I don't need 155 gallon powder protein powder.
- [04:59]
Lacey Mosley
So that could be like, like Bouleg Similac. Did y'all stir it up and see if the baby liked it?
- [05:05]
Chris Gethard
I started giving it away to friends of mine. I. I was, at the time, I was having a midlife crisis. I mean, I've on and off done Brazilian jiu jitsu for many years. And I'd started doing again around this time because I was having a midlife cr, started giving it to younger fitter people at my gyms and they were like, why are you giving us this, like terrible off brand protein powder?
- [05:26]
Lacey Mosley
Chris, you missed a huge opportunity to start your mlm. You could have just took that powder and you, you could have been the upline. And then you get somebody on the downline. Next thing you know, you got people slanging it on the corner. You take it with you to your baby's nursery. While a lot of babies at work, you know, you could have really made some coin, Chris. Let's get into our first segment, what's hot and fried? And guys, today, what's hot and fried is me. Again, this is really embarrassing because in the two years that we, almost two years we've been doing this podcast, I have not been what's hot and fried at all the first year. And then now this is the second time this year that I'm about to be what's hot and fried And. Wow. So if you follow me on Instagram or any social media really, you know that my birthday is always on the fourth of July. And we call it the fourth of July. See, I was born on the fourth of July. I don't know why I said it's always like, it's gonna be a leap year or something, it's the fourth of July. So I call it the fourth of July. See, and for the past few years, like, obviously during COVID I couldn't do a big party. And then, like, this was a big birthday and I was like, you know what? Fuck it. Like, everyone's vaccinated. We rented out this huge mansion. 12 of my friends and family flew in. We had my cousin who does black mat yoga. That's his company, his name's Eric. He led us in yoga. Everyone wore black. I had dress Code. It was like, my fucking wedding. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna get married to nobody, you know, so let me just have a wedd real quick. Like, literally everyone was in black, and I would be in white. Like, it was like my wedding. We had a surf and turf dinner at the house. I was catered by this amazing chef. It was just a. It was good vibes. So on Saturday, we wake up, we do yoga that's led by my cousin Eric. And it was really beautiful. We're on the rooftop. We're all in black. I got everyone these black mats and these gift bags. Like, I really tried to blow it out for my family because they've really been holding me down. Right? So we're doing the yoga. It's great. Good vibes. Then we go in the kitchen. My mom already has brunch. Liddy. Like, we turn on some trap gospel, which is a mixture of trap and gospel music. Like, there's this remix to this song. I don't know if you've ever heard this song, Chris, but it's called Never Would have Made it by Fred Hammond. And it's, like, a pretty popular song if you're, like, Baptist or if you're black in general and go to church and just, like, never would have made it. Never could have made it without you. I know some of y'all know it, but they have a trap version that's like, never would have made it. And it's like, so we're, like, twerking to gospel and taking shots. My mom was like, I don't know how I feel about this. So we go on this yacht party. I send my mom, my auntie, and my sister to get massages. Cause, like, my sister's too young and my mom and my auntie's too old. So I was like, y'all go get massages. I should have went with they asses. Cause I had a party planner and my assistant who's wonderful. Like, some things I had to be very hands on with. But I thought this yacht rental situation, I had just done it in Miami for my other best friend's birthday. We thought it was going to be chill. Instead, we get out here, I tell everybody to wear white. Okay, Cute. Everybody meets up at my house. We get the Ubers to go to the marina. Everyone's in white. I'm in, like, this, like, Dior bathing suit that's, like, white and blue for the photos. So, Chris, we get there, and you can. And this is always a conversation on this podcast. Chris, so you can interrupt if you have questions.
- [08:46]
Chris Gethard
I feel like all of this, all of this sounds fake to me. This sounds like the most amazing experience of all of these people's lives. And this is just what you did for your birthday.
- [08:55]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, I mean, I. My friends are like, very bougie. They love to, like. We were on my friend's yacht for her birthday. Like, we're just like. I'll put it this way. When I grew up, my mom loved to throw parties and she loved to like have like valet go park people's cars at the pool. We would have ice sculptures. And my grandpa's 80th. We were all doing shots off of an ice sculpture loop. Like, my mom loves a good party.
- [09:19]
Chris Gethard
My birthday this year, Chris Lacy. My birthday this year. I looked at the calendar and we were already scheduled to get dinner with my neighbors, the Haynesworths. So my wife just gave them a heads up and they added a cake. Come on.
- [09:32]
Lacey Mosley
The Haynesworths.
- [09:33]
Chris Gethard
And that was it. The Haynesworths. They're. They're a lovely older couple that lived down the road. And they had us over for dinner and I said, oh, that's my birthday. And my wife said, okay, well, tell the Haynesworths that we also need a cake. That was it. You're having like yoga and yachts and mansions. Who are you? What did I become a part of here? I thought we were going to talk about protein powder scams.
- [09:55]
Lacey Mosley
Oh, we're going to get to some more scams. But this scam, Chris, okay, if you can believe it, it's going to get pretty wild. And congregation. I will post photos because I made sure to take photos of this shit as it was happen because I was like, what the fuck is going on? So everybody's in white, right? We meeting at the marina, right? We had gotten some food because the Cheesecake Factory was nearby. So. So we was like, let's just get some, you know, appetizers and food for people there. And then we already have liquor and everything on the boat. Like, cool. I've seen pictures of this boat. It's huge. But like, I'm not really paying attention because I'm slammed. I'm working at the time. I'm doing pr. Like, I'm not. I didn't have time to look at every single little detail. Otherwise I would have realized, like, these photos were cute. But this boat is huge. It's older and that's not what I wanted. That's not. That wasn't the vibes. The vibes were like popping and new. Not old Titanic boat. So first red flag, we get there, we're outside the marina, and we're standing around. We're a little late because Pablo, who is the main character of the story, Pablo, he. He told us that his last excursion ran a little long. It's a holiday. So I'm trying to be, like, understanding. We're waiting, and I'm like, don't we need to just walk to the dock that we're gonna get on? And then we just get on the boat. And they're like, no, because the boat is so big, you have to take a smaller boat to the actual boat. Then I'm like, okay, well, that still sounds cute. Okay, we're waiting for Pablo for, like, half an hour now. I'm getting pissed. I'm like, I have all these guests out here dressed in white, and we are standing out on the curb looking like slaves on Easter Sunday. And it was like, what? What is happening? So we look across the street and we see another group of people, a large group also waiting. So then I was like, oh, okay, well, maybe this is just the norm. Like, I see other people waiting in there, you know, with their coolers or what, whatever they're doing. Like, maybe this is a situation I don't understand. So then my sister gets on the phone, because at this point, I'm like, where the is Pablo? Because he about to catch these hands. Okay? So she gets on the phone, and I overhear her say, oh, do you have on your pirate's hat? Because he said. He was walking over, and I said, pirate's hat? Why is this man wearing a pirate's hat?
- [12:03]
Chris Gethard
Oh, so he was. It wasn't an expectation that you would wear a pirate's hat.
- [12:07]
Lacey Mosley
No, he.
- [12:08]
Chris Gethard
That's good.
- [12:09]
Lacey Mosley
The captain of the boat. Now, look, I didn't sign up for spongebob squarepants yacht. So finally we see Pablo. He's coming over, right? This is the sweatiest man I've ever seen in my entire life. This nigga ran. Ran to us and was so sweaty, like, Chris, I need you to understand, like, drenched. Like, hair soaked, face soaked. I'm gonna see if I can pull up a picture right now for you so you can see how insanely sweaty this man was. He had to have been on cocaine. There's just no way that he wasn't all day.
- [12:40]
Chris Gethard
Listen on. On behalf. I feel like there's probably many listeners who have never attended a party to the level of what you're saying, as I have not. So on behalf of all those people was he wearing a pirate set. And what does that mean?
- [12:53]
Lacey Mosley
So he had the pirate's hat. And later on, I think I have a photo where he's in the back with the pirates hat on. But let me. I took pictures with them because I was like, I need people to understand. Hold on, let me see. Look at how sweaty this man is, Chris.
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Chris Gethard
Oh, yeah. He looks like he took a shower with his clothes on, literally.
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Lacey Mosley
And this is like five, like four hours after we first met him. He's still sweating that hard. So he comes, he's sweaty, he's like, come on, y'all, we about to get on the boat. So we get on this huge kind of like. I don't even know how to describe it. It was like maybe a party boat, but like a hollowed out. But it's not like luxurious, it's just like a big boat, like a tugboat. I don't know. So we get on this boat, it's supposed to take us to the other boat while we on this boat. And Pablo's friend, who I'm pretty sure was a sex worker, which is no shade, because sex workers work. But I think she was there to do things that we didn't know. We thought she was gonna serve some drinks, but she. I think she was serving other things. And so we get on this boat and then we noticed this group of other people that were waiting on the curb get on the boat too. And they're like, don't worry, we're gonna drop your party off first. Why are we on this boat driving around the damn ocean for like an hour?
- [14:04]
Chris Gethard
And the shuttle boat.
- [14:05]
Lacey Mosley
The shuttle boat. And all of this, I guess, is because when you rent out a boat, you can't have more than 12 people on it. If it's a commercial thing, if it's private, then it doesn't matter. So we're driving around and I noticed that like the maritime people, what are they called? Coast Guard. They're like out. And their boats have lights on them like police cars. So when the tugboat that we were on would see the police boat, they would turn the other way. Yes. And keep driving. So suddenly we see the boat. They're like, there's the boat that. That's your boat. That's the boat that we're about to get on. Okay. Then they're like, okay, now you have to get on a smaller dinghy boat to ride over to your boat. And I was like, what?
- [14:50]
Chris Gethard
Oh, I don't. This is starting to feel unsafe, Chris.
- [14:53]
Lacey Mosley
It was very unsafe. It was extremely Unsafe. I literally. Okay. So at this point, I was like, turn this bitch around. My friends can just come kick it at the mansion and we'll have our dinner tonight. And fuck this. Like, fuck this. I'm ready to bail. I know it's a scam. It's only gonna get worse. I was like, fuck it. My friends are like, we have come this far. We are going to get on this dinghy boat. I was like, it's choppy out here. And the boat was very tiny. It was like you could only fit three people on it. And why. I'm telling you, it was so choppy. I was scared I was gonna fall in. They put me in a life vest.
- [15:28]
Chris Gethard
Wait, there were. So three of you would get on at a time and be shuttled from one boat? Yeah, from boat one to boat three? Yeah.
- [15:34]
Lacey Mosley
So they stuck me in a life vest, bro. I was crying a little bit. I was so upset. So I get. I get on this dinghy. He says, three people at a time. Why do I get on this dinghy? And he said, three people, right, Pablo? Then, so imagine sitting on a bench, and there's two people sitting on the bench, right? And there's a steering wheel in the middle of the bench. Pablo climbs over us and stands in the middle of us, stepping on my feet in this little tiny dinghy boat, driving it over to the main boat. Then when we get to the main boat, he throws rope at my friend Edgar, who was on the dinghy boat with us. And he doesn't even ask. He just throws the rope at him and is like, tie dad up. Edgar's like, I ain't no motherfucking sailor.
- [16:18]
Chris Gethard
This is wild. I just had a laid back night at the Haynesworths. There was a pasta salad.
- [16:29]
Lacey Mosley
I was getting smuggled across the Pacific.
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Chris Gethard
This sounds like a kidnapping.
- [16:34]
Lacey Mosley
It was. When we were on that boat, Pablo came out with some champagne on the. On the first boat, he came out with some champagne. Like, here you go, guys. Like, turn up. What's gonna be fun? We were like, what? So then once I take the dinghy boat, I was like, absolutely none of my guests are gonna do this. This is ridiculous. Take this boat back, dock it and let them walk on or let me get off. Like, I was over it. So finally, I guess they could dock the boat. And they dock it. And the guy on the boat was like, pablo lied to us. He told us that it was only going to be 12 people and it's too many of y'all. And I was like, well, Pablo lied to Us, Like, Pablo lied to everybody. Mind you, Pablo's not on this big boat. He's somehow disappeared on his dinghy boat. We don't know where Pablo went. We parked the boat.
- [17:13]
Chris Gethard
Pablo.
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Lacey Mosley
Pablo is a wild dude. Then we park the boat, and the guy who's the captain of the actual boat sees my friends on the dock, and he yells over the side, and he's like, get on the boat. Go, go, go. He's like, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. The cow's car is gonna see us. So all these people are, like, smuggling onto this boat. And the boat was not reflective of the photos? It was. Oh, it was big. But it was tragic. It was just one of the worst experiences.
- [17:46]
Chris Gethard
How long were you on the big boat?
- [17:48]
Lacey Mosley
So we got to the big boat. We were supposed to be on for four hours, but by the time we got there, two hours had passed, and I didn't want to be on the damn boat anyway. So I think we were on there for maybe an hour, and then we got off, and then we all went home and got ready for dinner.
- [18:01]
Chris Gethard
Did you have to take the little dinghy three at a time to get off?
- [18:04]
Lacey Mosley
No. They parked the boat at the marina. I was. I was absolutely. I was vehemently. At that point, I was like, I will hurt you people. Like, we are not getting back on this dinghy. I will not die today.
- [18:15]
Chris Gethard
What are you talking about, Lace? This doesn't. This doesn't happen to people.
- [18:21]
Lacey Mosley
It happens to me.
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Chris Gethard
What?
- [18:24]
Lacey Mosley
Magnet.
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Chris Gethard
That's wild. That's wild.
- [18:29]
Lacey Mosley
I am an agent of chaos, and I've learned to accept it and just receive it. But it was very upsetting because I was really excited and looking forward to this yacht moment. Everyone's in white. They look so good. We're going to take these photos and I'll turn up. And instead, it was this embarrassing scam that kept giving. Oh, also, so then Pablo somehow returns to the boat. I guess he got back on the dinghy, comes to the boat, and I had a tip, like a $500 tip for the boat captain. Somehow, my assistant sees Pablo and gives the money to Pablo. Then he hops back on his dinghy boat and speeds away. And I was like, what? We should have gave that money, at least to the smuggling boat captain, not to goddamn Pablo, who put us. Made us through the middle passage like we were slaves. Like, it was terrible. And then Pablo had the nerve to hit up my assistant the next day and say, oh, you and your. The actress. Y'all should come. I have a huge boat Party today. Lots of celebs and we'll have fun. Pablo, I ain't never getting on nobody's body of water with you ever again. The audacity to think that I would.
- [19:31]
Chris Gethard
Well, happy birthday. That's. Yeah, I've never. I've had some pretty wild times and that one gives me a. That's. It gives me a run, yo.
- [19:43]
Lacey Mosley
I'll post pictures of Pablo of. I think her name was Irina, the sex worker who. Slash waitress. Like, I'll post photos of me in the life vest like, y'all see everything. Because it was. It was a time. But, guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non scam advertisements. We'll be back for Historic Hoodwinks. And we are back. Guys. That was a wild one, right? I don't know why I think I stayed for the scam for you guys. I was like, at this point, we're in so deep. Let me get some photos. Let me talk to the congregation about it. Thank you for letting me get that off my chest, Chris. I feel like I'm in therapy.
- [20:24]
Chris Gethard
Oh, I get that a lot from people.
- [20:28]
Lacey Mosley
So Historic Hoodwinks. This is my favorite segment of the podcast. This is where we're going to talk about a famous crime or paper. New, old, past, present. We'll see. Maybe it's a group of people. Maybe it's one person. Maybe they're good, maybe they're bad. We don't know. We'll figure it out along the way. We'll let you know. This one is. This episode is so meta. Like, I told a very meta story about how I got scammed. Crystal. His story is about he got scammed and now we're going to talk about podcasting, getting scammed. And we're both podcasters, so, you know, it's very meta episode. Sometimes you need those guys. Real world. So the High Studios Hype House was supposed to be every podcaster's dream. A haven for creators to work, record, and even live, all supported by a network more interested in investing in their independent podcasts than selling ads. However, it ended up being a drug fueled frat boy nightmare, almost entirely because of its CEO, Peter Vincer. Mm. So question. Chris, you're very familiar. Not even familiar. Like, this is what you do with podcasting. So this is Peter Vincer. He looks like a bad guy. He looks like the guy who's at the bar talking to a girl who's probably overserved, and he's like, don't you want another drink? Like, he looks like that guy.
- [21:44]
Chris Gethard
Yeah. And this. I wonder what the context of this photo is. This looks like a bad person trying to put his best foot forward for a photographic purpose. But it looks like he yelled at someone right before the photo, and he will yell at someone right after the photo.
- [21:59]
Lacey Mosley
He was like, make me look like a nice guy. And then he took the photo and then probably threw something at someone. Like, he's just giving bad guy energy.
- [22:08]
Chris Gethard
Yeah, he kind of looks like a direct cross between Mark Cuban and Michael Rapaport.
- [22:13]
Lacey Mosley
Oh, that's a bad. That's accurate as fuck. And also a.
- [22:17]
Chris Gethard
Read this picture you're showing me. I actually feel really proud that I nailed that, because that. I think that's right on target, what I just said.
- [22:25]
Lacey Mosley
Guys, remember what Chris said, because when you see this photo, you're going to be like, wow, what a genius. That's it. That's literally it. It's Michael Rappaport and Mark Cuban as one man. Terrifying. So if you do podcasting, we'll, like, break down podcasting a little bit. Y'all hear us reading ads. Personal experience. Or you'll hear ads played on our show. That's how we keep doing this so that it's free for y'all. Which is why I'm always like, if you got critiques of my motherfucking show, it's free, bitch. I don't want your critiques. Now, if you have some insight or information, I'll take that. I love when the congregation pulls up, but if you got thoughts, honey, keep them thoughts, okay? Because I'm not reading them. Okay, but. But. So this is how you pay for a podcast is like, you get ads. So the fact that they're not interested in the thing that makes podcasting money is a big red flag. That's like, if you worked at or like, if you made a clothing store and you were like, yeah, we're not really interested in clothes, though. You know, we more vibes here. We got mannequins, we got hangers, we got. You know, like, we're just more of a Vibes clothing store. And it's like, well, then how y'all gonna make money? Like, you're missing the thing, which is clothes.
- [23:30]
Chris Gethard
But also any artist or creative person who's told, hey, this is all about supporting you and your creativity and not about the corporate side of it is going to. Going to want to be a part of that. If they're saying, we can give you enough money to support yourself. And it's not about the ads, it's about your work. People are Prone to fall for that. I would have fallen for that earlier in my career.
- [23:52]
Lacey Mosley
Absolutely. But now that I know how the butter gets made, I know that that's impossible. And if someone tells you that, you have to be alarmed. You have to be like, wait a minute. So Peter Vincent and the setup of High Studios, okay, so what might have once been seen as a niche industry, podcasting, now spends billions annually in acquisition of some of his most recognized names in the world as talent. Cause, like, now you got Joe Rogan, who was like, the Fear Factor nigga, right? Like, he used to make niggas he worms, and now people listen to his every word, and I'm like, bro, this the man who made people eat cow dick. Like, why y'all talking to him?
- [24:27]
Chris Gethard
And, yeah, when, like, his opinion on vaccination, I feel like he's good about being like, I'm an idiot. But he'll still say, don't get vaccinated, and then people do it. And you're right. Like, he's also a guy who convinced people to eat live scorpions on tv, so it's weird that people go, yeah, his medical advice should be trusted anyway.
- [24:43]
Lacey Mosley
It's so bizarre. I'm like, y'all don't remember when he used to make people lay in worms? Like, that's not the man that you should be talking to about your vaccination status. Like, what? Come on, now. Just because you're qualified in one area doesn't mean you're qualified in another. It's just like what we do with billionaires. Like, as soon as you're a billionaire, now all of a sudden, all your opinions are smart. Like, okay, just because Bill Gates may control alt delete doesn't mean I would let him do open heart surgery on me. He's not a genius in every field.
- [25:11]
Chris Gethard
Like, what I love about this, Lacey, is that you are giving credit where it's due. And you said Joe Rogan's not qualified to talk about vaccinations just because he is qualified to make you eat a live scorpion or lay in a big garbage pail full of worms. You say you saying he is qualified to do that?
- [25:26]
Lacey Mosley
Oh, he was very competent at Fear Factor. He got the girls to eat the bats and. And, you know, crunch on the cockroaches. Like, he was very talented in that realm, but everything else, all this world, opinions that he has, I'm like, we can curtail that, guys. Come on now. Like, we need to. So now, podcasting, obviously, is something that makes a lot of money, right? In 2019. China's largest podcast and audio platform, Shimalaya, excuse me. Launched a US offshoot called Himalaya. Okay. When they first debuted, their largest draw was the sheer amount of money that they offered, boasting a supposed hundred million dollar investment from their parent company and others. Peter Vincer had recently joined VP of Global marketing and partnerships and spent his time boasting the hundred million dollar figure, pitching to podcasts and podcasters on the idea to help sell shows and ads and take a cut of the sales made like. So what's different, like greatly from more common models of podcast networks selling ads for podcasts, but otherwise not offering significant financial support. So basically normally ads are the bread and butter and they don't give you coin unless you get what we call like a minimum guarantee, which basically is like, oh, you'll make this much money a podcast, but if you don't sell ads to make that money back, then you don't get anything else. It's like a 360 deal in music, like where, oh, you can have a chain and a house and a music video, but until your record sales pay that off, we about to TLC your ass.
- [26:56]
Chris Gethard
You know what I mean?
- [26:57]
Lacey Mosley
Like, they're about to rob you. So that's the normal setup. And now they're coming in being like, we just gonna give y'all money, like that's it.
- [27:05]
Chris Gethard
Which is what all podcasters want. And Lacy, you and I have actually been on some group emails where people have expressed want that, but it's not a real thing in the industry. So much so I'm interested to see what all big chin Peter has to do with this.
- [27:20]
Lacey Mosley
Right? Peter got the crimson. He has a very chin look. I'm not trying to chin shame. Some of us got more chin than others, but this man looks like a bad dude. So we're gonna talk about his a little bit.
- [27:32]
Chris Gethard
He has as much chin as I have forehead. So I'll right there, I'll put it back on myself. I'm not mad at your chin, Peter.
- [27:40]
Lacey Mosley
Right. So Vencer says that High Studios was a place for his entrepreneurial spirit to have more freedom. There were potentially other reasons why Himalaya would want to distance himself from him. So basically he was like, oh, I can have more freedom here. This is why I want to do this. I want to help out Himalaya find, you know, Westerners to do podcasts. Richard Saylor says he's just a bad guy. And unfortunately he's a bad guy wrapped up into this magnificent personality. You know what that tells me he's tall. Whenever a white man is tall and has a full head of hair, they call him charismatic tall.
- [28:17]
Chris Gethard
You think tall is a key factor here?
- [28:19]
Lacey Mosley
They're like, he was just so tall and he had so much hair, and that made him personable.
- [28:25]
Chris Gethard
Well, I'm five foot seven, and my hairline is getting worse with each passing day, so you can trust me.
- [28:31]
Lacey Mosley
Yes. So Vencer is known as a stereotypical partying suit. He is disrespectful, hard to work with, and allegedly would do coke, drink to excess, and hire sex workers regularly while on his work trips. I don't think hiring sex workers is a bad thing. That's fine. People do cocaine. You shouldn't drink to excess. But, you know, the combination of this gives us a very good idea of, like, the wolf of Wall Street, Leonardo DiCaprio beating on my chest, asshole, like, yelling at waitstaff kind of guy. So this behavior occurred before his high studios hype house was fully launched. And if you don't know what a hype house is, it's like something that's developed after TikTok, where, like, people will be influencers and then live together in a mansion. Like, a lot of them, like, 50, 11 of them, so that they can afford the mansion, but also they can have mansion vibes, even though they can't afford a mansion on their own because they're all influencers. Like, that's what a hype house is.
- [29:24]
Chris Gethard
That's weird. But, I mean, I'm in the world of podcasting, as are you, and there's all different types of podcasters, but in general, this is not a lifestyle that lends itself to hype. Now, hypeness, like, it's.
- [29:39]
Lacey Mosley
I don't know. I'm pretty high.
- [29:40]
Chris Gethard
You're pretty. You're at the far hype end of the podcasting spectrum. But the cliche is, like, a bunch of nerds sitting behind microphones. Like, this is not. This doesn't exactly scream, like, in ground pool. Jump off the roof. Like, blast a bunch of rails. Like, it's not exactly the lifestyle. It's not the Jake.
- [29:58]
Lacey Mosley
And then get on a microphone. Get on a microphone and talk about a missing white woman. Yeah.
- [30:03]
Chris Gethard
And yes, talk about true crime early. Here's some things you might not have known about Napoleon. Like, that. This is not. I'm very confused as to this, but.
- [30:11]
Lacey Mosley
You'Re, like, coked up. Listen, did y'all know Napoleon was that dude? Listen, let me tell you. How about. Can you imagine that short?
- [30:18]
Chris Gethard
He wasn't even that short by the standards of his era.
- [30:22]
Lacey Mosley
Justice for my nigga Napoleon. Like, can you imagine if people got on the mic that Hype to talk about those fucking like true crime or historical podcasts?
- [30:30]
Chris Gethard
I would be like, coke and instead of Drunk History, it would be like Coked Out History. That would be actually a very pleasant show to watch. I bet Coked Out History would be an amazing sequel to Drunk History.
- [30:40]
Lacey Mosley
Right? The information would come at you fast. Yeah.
- [30:43]
Chris Gethard
Like, yeah, Thomas Edison had all these fucking patents, but you know how many of them he actually stole from the people who worked under him? And he just slapped his fucking name on them.
- [30:49]
Lacey Mosley
Thomas Edison is a thief. Fuck that bitch. Anyway, like, it would be insane and I would live for it. I would live for it. So some of this behavior that we're talking about occurred before his Hype house was fully launched, according to later statements. But it's barely the tip of the iceberg. So the Hype House, because High Studios main office was a wework space in Texas. Oh, we work. We know that's a scam. We don't work. So they were in a wework in Texas. Vencer ended up renting a $17,000 a month mansion in the 90210 zip code as a work live space similar to the Hype House House. The original Hype House is similar to the LA based mansions to like Gen Z Tick Tockers that I just talked about. Right. However, the idea of LA based luxury. And now you can see right here is a picture of like a hype house. They got a logo in the pool, they got views of the city. It's, it's like. What do you think about this, Chris? I think that.
- [31:45]
Chris Gethard
I don't know. I mean, I guess. Yeah, I mean you gotta, you got a lot of tropes here, right? You got, got a guy and you got a cool guy in a hoodie. You got like a guy, you have like a tall white guy in a hoodie and a flat brim cap. That who I'm, I'm looking at this guy and I'm going, he looks, I might bet is, he's Canadian, you know what I mean? He's got that vibe of like, like Canadian white hip hop guy in a hoodie. You've got the guy all the way over here to the left who has the tuxedo jacket with the white T shirt underneath.
- [32:13]
Lacey Mosley
What is this party? Because everybody's dressed for a different event. I got a girl in a gown that goes to the ground. This other girl in sequence. What Nobody understood the assignment or like, the teacher didn't make it very clear because everybody showed up. There's a man over here in a jean jacket. And like, then it's a girl in booties. Also, what is the weather? Because some people look cold. Some people ain't got no clothes on. What?
- [32:39]
Chris Gethard
That guy's jacket, the denim jacket, seems to have maybe even like a fur collar, a fur lining, and then.
- [32:45]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, that's sheep skin. That's sheep wool.
- [32:47]
Chris Gethard
Off to the left is a guy who's dressed like he's about to teach a salsa class. So it's a very ill defined hype house.
- [32:53]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, it's like the gumbo of hype houses. They said, just come. Come as you are. I'm like, sis, where's everybody going? She going to the Emmys later. She going to the club. She going to bed.
- [33:05]
Chris Gethard
Do you think all these people host different shows on the High Studios network and that these clothes reflect their.
- [33:11]
Lacey Mosley
Their energy? Their podcast, like the one in the gown. She does a bachelor podcast.
- [33:17]
Chris Gethard
Have you ever been in an environment built for podcasting where anything. I mean, because this feels like people trying to be cool. But if you put, like, I've been to podcasting festivals, and if you put all the podcasters around this pool, it would not even look. It would. This is not. This is not real. This. This is the actual. Is this a.
- [33:37]
Lacey Mosley
The.
- [33:38]
Chris Gethard
This is the actual High Studios hype house right here?
- [33:40]
Lacey Mosley
Yes.
- [33:41]
Chris Gethard
Yeah. This does not look. Not all of these people are professional podcasters. I can say that, having been in this space for years.
- [33:50]
Lacey Mosley
Listen, it's like every other profession. Once you become an influencer or you get enough followers, you can do anything. And I'm gonna absolutely do that. I'm gonna start selling grills. Yeah, I remember George Foreman. It's gonna be the Lacey Mosley Grill. It's probably just gonna be the George Foreman grill with my logo over it, but, you know, I'm gonna make anything. I'm gonna start making refrigerators. Why not? Why not?
- [34:12]
Chris Gethard
I could see it. I could see you having a whole empire.
- [34:15]
Lacey Mosley
You know, I just always been passionate about keeping things cold. You know, outside of acting, I really love keeping things cold. And so I came up with some fridges.
- [34:24]
Chris Gethard
Like what that T shirt that you saw that you see. Ever keep it cold? Right? That's your. Isn't that your.
- [34:29]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, keep it cold. That's my passion. Yes. So with two state of the art recording studios, just two. I feel like if you had a house of people, you need more than two but okay, so with two state of the art recording centers, a pool, and plenty of space, High Studios and podcasters could hold events, record, and host clients. On the surface, High Studios looked to be a thriving company, throwing swaggy parties and creating a unique work environment. In reality, this was very much not the case, as several of the network's most anticipated shows fell through and ventures already. Toxic behavior got worse. Duh. Of course it did. According to a lawsuit filed in 2020, at least four former High Studio employees alleged inappropriate workplace behavior involving cocaine and sex workers, as well as being subjected to abuse, ridicule, and sexual harassment, which ultimately led to their wrongful terminations. Wow. So he was firing people after they were like, hey, bro, like, can you. Can you get out of the studio? We're trying to record it and you're doing cocaine off of this. This employee's body? Like, can you we. Hello.
- [35:33]
Chris Gethard
Right? Do you think you can keep it down, perhaps? I have a podcast about pop culture topics and we need some quiet. And then he's like snorting rail while eating sushi off a naked body, right?
- [35:46]
Lacey Mosley
He's like. They're like, bro, podcasting actually requires a lot of quiet. Can you.
- [35:52]
Chris Gethard
One of the central things for the audio medium is consistent quiet, sir.
- [35:57]
Lacey Mosley
You can't be screaming and doing cocaine every day. He just got into the wrong industry. He should have gotten to the music industry if he wanted to be yelling this. You can't do that in podcasting. They're like, look, we're over here breaking down the best of nailed it. We over here talking about 90 Day Fiance. We can hear you screaming and doing cocaine. He's like, if you don't like it, get the out.
- [36:20]
Chris Gethard
Okay, I want to know what shows were on this network. I wonder if he was picking them all based on trying to corner some sort of, like, bro y party like, fire festy vibe. Or if they were just like, I get to live my audio dreams. And he was.
- [36:37]
Lacey Mosley
He's giving fire fest. He's giving fyre fest.
- [36:40]
Chris Gethard
He dreams of throwing fire fest. Right?
- [36:41]
Lacey Mosley
Some more examples of Vincer's behavior when looking to hire a studio manager for the company's hype house. Vincer gathered team members around the computer and clicked through LinkedIn profiles of women asking aloud how big their breasts were and whether they were attractive. All right, Peter, no one can see your titties on a podcast. Yeah, why should that matter?
- [37:03]
Chris Gethard
They nor LinkedIn, to my knowledge. Nor is it a requirement to list or show your breast size on LinkedIn.
- [37:10]
Lacey Mosley
No, they're not like, oh, where'd you go to college? Oh, okay. Where'd you get your master's? Cool. What is your cup size? It's not. That's not the third. Like, it's not necessary. You're a weirdo. So he also passed on any person of color, the lawsuit claims, because that wasn't the look he was going for.
- [37:30]
Chris Gethard
Wow. Wow.
- [37:32]
Lacey Mosley
He said, we give it Aryan over here. Okay. We giving white supremacy.
- [37:38]
Chris Gethard
Wow.
- [37:39]
Lacey Mosley
You've heard of the label supreme, right? We give him white Supreme. Okay. That's what. That's all we want. Wow.
- [37:45]
Chris Gethard
That's. It makes me wonder how this company lasted more than, like, three weeks, because this seems bold.
- [37:53]
Lacey Mosley
Really? Oh, come on now, Chris. There's a lot of companies who are preserving whiteness, and they. They are standing strong and tall and.
- [38:00]
Chris Gethard
Doing well, but together to gather employees around a computer and go through LinkedIn profiles and guest bus sizes, and then vocally, it seems like there's companies out there that I think have good intentions that pull like this because it's the culture. It's, like, culturally built in. And this dude's not even trying to hide it. This dude's shouting about it to the hills. That's. I mean, I guess I am just naive, but that's like, wow, pretty astounding to me.
- [38:26]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah, I think that it works because also, remember the medium podcasting? And when I first started podcasting, it was out of some rental house or I actually podcasted in. We work for a bit. You know, it's this new medium that people don't really know the rules for. And he's doing it in a mansion where people are living and also working. So the decorum and the workplace aspect gets confusing when you're literally, like, talking about work and you're sitting, like, in a Jacuzzi, like, you're not in a professional setting. So perhaps he got away with some of this stuff because it was like, we're not in a cubicle talking about LinkedIn titties. You know, we're by the pool talking about LinkedIn titties.
- [39:08]
Chris Gethard
It does make you realize he must have had pretty free reign over that a hundred million dollars, because you have to throw a lot of money around to get people to go along with that robbery and fraud.
- [39:22]
Lacey Mosley
So in March 2020, Himalaya, which is the podcasting company that's a subsidiary of the Chinese company, publicly separated itself from High Studios because they were like, okay, this man is crazy. So Vincer renamed High Studios to Notorious. Wow. For not liking black people. You're really hopping on our vibes. Notorious. So Notorious set the company up.
- [39:43]
Chris Gethard
I think he only knew the Duran Duran song.
- [39:45]
Lacey Mosley
To be fair, you're probably right.
- [39:47]
Chris Gethard
He had no idea that it had ever been sampled.
- [39:50]
Lacey Mosley
You right? So Vincer renamed High Studios to Notorious and set the company up to poach High studio shows and creators and locked Himalaya and other former teams out of all accounts, drives and emails. Because Spencer's name was on the house's lease, he made it a Notorious office and turned it into his and his family's actual home. So now he done moved his family in.
- [40:10]
Chris Gethard
Wow.
- [40:11]
Lacey Mosley
He said, this is my place of business also. There go my son. Like what?
- [40:16]
Chris Gethard
Wow.
- [40:17]
Lacey Mosley
So for additional context, Peter Venture has a wife and three kids. So he moved three whole ass babies and his wife, mind you, he's been hiring sex workers. So I don't know how you gonna do that with his wife is in the house and his three kids to this home. So this is the decline. According to Norm Steele, a podcaster burned by Venser. When Notorious transitioned from High Studios, the house fell into disrepair, furniture was destroyed, dog poop, poop sat on the floor inside the house and trash, including baby diapers would linger in the driveway for weeks. So his wife must have been on the same type of time because I'm like, sis, you couldn't throw the baby diapers away in the trash.
- [40:55]
Chris Gethard
I just know if the hero of the story, who I'm rooting for is a guy named Norm Steele. Like you have to be a pretty bad dude, Peter, because that sounds like the bad guy. Norm Steel sounds like the name of the bad guy. Not the good guy, not the soul blower.
- [41:10]
Lacey Mosley
And somehow he isn't. It's fascinating. So Vencer would also occasionally be passed out and shirtless in the living room when podcast guests were coming over. Can you imagine somebody be like, hey, come do my podcast. It's about pottery. And you come in and there's a half dressed white man passed out in a living room surrounded by dog poop and baby diapers.
- [41:34]
Chris Gethard
And he's the boss.
- [41:36]
Lacey Mosley
I don't mind him. That's our CEO. What?
- [41:45]
Chris Gethard
Oh, that's awful.
- [41:47]
Lacey Mosley
You know how CEOs be, you know, awful. So Steel says it turned into a personal haven for this middle aged man to relive his childhood. Since Notorious took over, There were also 40 calls to the police about the home, mostly related to disposal. Disturbing the peace again. Podcasting, you need quiet. No one should be disturbing the peace. How are they making podcasts? What's happening? In addition to the State of the House, many of the creators that worked with Vencer said the company fell behind on payments or refused to pay it. Also, now they're not paying people. They run out of money.
- [42:18]
Chris Gethard
Oh, you don't say. You don't say that. That guy wasn't getting checks in the mail on time.
- [42:24]
Lacey Mosley
One podcaster says that they were owed as much as $74,000 and that notorious ended up paying them out once they got a lawyer involved. Steel says his team is owed $25,000 in back pay for advertisements that they read. Venture says. So yeah, it took a little longer to pay early partners than I probably should have or wanted to. But he isn't aware of any current or former partners who he owes money other than Steel who won't get a dime from him. It's unclear, other than the allegations made later by Steel regarding the lack of payment, why Vencer refuses to pay him. So, like, so you're saying that you do owe Steel money? Vincer, Peter, you owe him money, but you're not gonna pay him.
- [43:03]
Chris Gethard
This is a battle for the centuries. I feel like there's a follow up episode about Norm Steele and who knows, maybe Norm Steel catches wind of this. I'm not judging. This just sounds like a bat. Norm Steel sounds like the name.
- [43:15]
Lacey Mosley
This is like, honestly sounds like a porn name. Norm Steel sounds like laying the pipe like the Mario Brothers.
- [43:22]
Chris Gethard
But this doesn't sound like it's Lex Luthor versus Superman. It sounds like Lex Luthor versus the Joker. You know, this sounds like two people butting head who have back stories.
- [43:32]
Lacey Mosley
So Vincer is also allegedly accused of attempting to pay Steel in weed.
- [43:39]
Chris Gethard
That's awesome. That means he spent all the money on weed.
- [43:44]
Lacey Mosley
And then he was like, here, you want this bag of flour? You want this bag of weed?
- [43:49]
Chris Gethard
That's wild.
- [43:52]
Lacey Mosley
So since it's declined, Notorious has pulled the focus to mostly marketing and content creation geared to TikTokers and LA influencers. So now he done made it a real hype house, which is what it should have been in the first place. Like, don't do podcasting. It's a quiet sport. You need to do something where everybody can be tick tocking and stealing black people's dance moves and, and profiting off of it. That's. That's the wave.
- [44:13]
Chris Gethard
So he was aiming to be like, let's fill in the podcast space of this culture. Yes. And it just descended into the mayhem of that culture. And he thought he was going to.
- [44:23]
Lacey Mosley
Do the tick tock of podcasting that's wild. So since its decline, Notorious has pulled focus to mostly marketing and content creation. Like we said, it maintains a handful of shows once, including Dumpster Fire, a podcast hosted by Fyre fest founder Millie McFarlane from prison. Billy. Billie, how are you podcasting from prison? I love it, but, like, it feels very white. Like, I feel like black people can't have prison podcasts. Like, what's going on? I don't like it. So that ended after McFarland was put in solitary confinement for it. Okay. It appears they conducted interviews on McFarland's allotted phone time. Once caught, he was placed in solitary confinement. So, yes, he wasn't allowed to do a podcast from prison. He was just podcasting via phone. I love that for Billy. Billy's like, I'm not gonna stop scamming. Yeah. I'm in prison, but I'm gonna do a podcast. Okay. At some point, it's gonna be like a collect call.
- [45:20]
Chris Gethard
I wonder how he thought he wouldn't get caught. You're recording a thing and releasing it to the world. You're.
- [45:26]
Lacey Mosley
He's. Billy. He's.
- [45:28]
Chris Gethard
Yeah. Guy doesn't give a. Huh.
- [45:30]
Lacey Mosley
At all.
- [45:30]
Chris Gethard
He's kind of like a patron saint of this podcast. Huh.
- [45:33]
Lacey Mosley
He is. We honor him, you know, he is a criminal. Criminal. And I've held the magnesis card. Like I. I've seen magnesis events. Like I. I love.
- [45:43]
Chris Gethard
Have you had him on yet?
- [45:44]
Lacey Mosley
No. I gotta cheat when they let him out of confinement. Absolutely, Absolutely. Absolutely. So Vencer is also the company to a new location, a 10 acre property called the Notorious Estate. However, this hasn't stopped the trouble following Vencer as his new landlord serves an eviction notice in April of this year. Look at this house.
- [46:07]
Chris Gethard
That is. That is cool.
- [46:09]
Lacey Mosley
So the other house was more modern. This looks like he done moved to like Pasadena or some shit because it's like very kind of older decor. But we are still seeing like these hype house people.
- [46:22]
Chris Gethard
Yeah.
- [46:23]
Lacey Mosley
And they look influencery.
- [46:25]
Chris Gethard
There's two things that are jumping out here about me. One, impressive floor to ceiling windows. This is a very, very good window game. Also, candle mounts on the wall. Evocative of the Hollywood Studios Tower of Terror. Right?
- [46:41]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah. It's giving like vampire.
- [46:45]
Chris Gethard
Also. What is that? The person in the hoodie. Is that person okay?
- [46:51]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah. I. I don't know. I would imagine not. If they're in this house, it does look like they're drinking plenty of water.
- [46:59]
Chris Gethard
So everyone seems hydrated.
- [47:01]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah. Good luck to them. So he had an eviction notice served in April of this year because they didn't vacate the property. The landlord has since filed a civil case against Venture, asking him to pay damages of $1,900 per day while he and his team continue living there. Ventures old landlord from High Studios Hype House also filed a lawsuit against him, alleging he failed to pay for rent and damages to the property. The landlord alleges that Vencer owes $71,967 in rent from May 2020 until he left the property in March 2021, with the damages to the home totaling up to $83,000. What. How are you damaging a home? I mean, well, if you're on cocaine and you're drinking and you don't know how podcasts work, maybe. Maybe you can accrue that kind of damage.
- [47:48]
Chris Gethard
One has to wonder why this man wants to keep doing this. I guess it's just until the check. Until those. Until the Chinese bank account cuts him off, he's going to keep writing this.
- [47:59]
Lacey Mosley
He's a scammer, and I'm proud of him.
- [48:01]
Chris Gethard
It doesn't seem like he's a bad guy, though. He does. And it doesn't seem like he has any particular interest in podcasts at all.
- [48:08]
Lacey Mosley
He does not.
- [48:09]
Chris Gethard
It seems like this man fell into a bag of money, which he converted into a bag of cocaine. And you know what? God bless him for it. Have your fun while you're young. Have your fun.
- [48:19]
Lacey Mosley
Don't forget weed. He also converted into a bag of weed, which he tried to pay people with, which is.
- [48:24]
Chris Gethard
You know what, though? There is a party that's going. You also have a wife and three kids, though. That's where. That's where it turns from like. Like, charming scamp with an open checkbook to, like, real piece of. Right?
- [48:35]
Lacey Mosley
Like, huge piece of. Honestly, for me, it was the racism and the sexism hiring and.
- [48:42]
Chris Gethard
But those people are a dime a dozen. Yeah, it's. It's.
- [48:45]
Lacey Mosley
We knew from his face that he was gonna be a bad guy. How do you have evil face? I guess some people just have evil face. Like, they're born. You just look at them, you know they're gonna be evil. So Norm Steele is actually out here legitimately still podcasting.
- [48:59]
Chris Gethard
Sounds legit.
- [48:59]
Lacey Mosley
I heard Charlemagne, I Heart Radio, the Real Chronicles. So Norm. Norm probably don't need that bag of weed payment as bad as we thought. Like, he seems to be doing all right.
- [49:08]
Chris Gethard
Maybe he's not. I. Before I said it sounded like two bad guys, but Norm Steele is a Quality human being who just wants his fucking money. Maybe that's what's going on.
- [49:17]
Lacey Mosley
Maybe, maybe. Who's to say? And also, the house looked like it was in Pasadena, but it's in Beverly Hills. So, you know, it's still got a cute address, but it does look hella old.
- [49:27]
Chris Gethard
You are Los Angeles based, right?
- [49:29]
Lacey Mosley
Yeah.
- [49:30]
Chris Gethard
Have you thought about any. You know, get at the mobile rig, go knock on the door, do some on the scene reporting?
- [49:38]
Lacey Mosley
I go, I go to the Notorious house. I'm like, hi, I'm Lacy Mosley with Scam Goddess. That's also me. Just want to sit down and pick your brain a little bit. I would love to. This man, he's evil, but he's fascinating. So all these. All these landlords are coming after him saying that he owes them money. And Peter Venser says that this is being negotiated right now in quotes, but that he didn't only pay. I'm sorry, but that he only didn't pay the last month's rent because he wanted negotiation leverage. I know. That's how rent works. Like, you just don't pay it because you want to negotiate. I feel like. I feel as though that's not how rent works.
- [50:17]
Chris Gethard
I do feel like there is a traditional thing though, of you gave them the first month's rent deposit, so you disappear on the last month, right?
- [50:24]
Lacey Mosley
Oh, if he gets on a deposit.
- [50:28]
Chris Gethard
He might just be acting like he's only been out of college for two years and he's vacating an apartment, you know?
- [50:33]
Lacey Mosley
True. Hey, so even with three lawsuits underway, Notorious Social Media continues to be highly active and appears to continue being a fun, active influencer playground. Let's look at Notorious Instagram. How many followers do they have? So they have 16 8k followers. It's decent broadcasting and media production company. Okay. They have a lot of cool photos at this mansion. Looks like a lot of photos are taken at the mansion.
- [50:57]
Chris Gethard
These do seem. Are these all different podcasters on their network? I've never been in a room full of podcasters who look anything like any of these people.
- [51:06]
Lacey Mosley
I'm not sure. It looks like they moved back into influencing because this is a very influencer video. There's working out, there's cocktails, crowd surfing, Bud Light, a girl who's a DJ but is also just very pretty and looks like an influencer. Wow.
- [51:26]
Chris Gethard
But what is that? That is a podcast.
- [51:29]
Lacey Mosley
A new podcast. Emmy and Ian need help with Emmy Hartman and Ian Smith. Link to Bio, Listen, rate and Destiny and subscribe. Emmy Hartman. Let's see what is she about?
- [51:40]
Chris Gethard
And these people seem like podcasters.
- [51:42]
Lacey Mosley
She has 379k followers.
- [51:46]
Chris Gethard
Who am I to talk about Emmy Hartman, right?
- [51:48]
Lacey Mosley
I didn't say nothing about her. I mean, we didn't say nothing about you. We're just trying to see what's going on, sis. Okay, so they are still doing podcasts, I guess. Okay, so, guys, that wraps up Historic Hoodwinks. Peter Vincer's still out here scamming and looks like he's doing pretty well. So shout out to his evil ass. Guys, it's time for the end of the show. The saddest part where I have to let Chris go. But before we do, we're gonna highlight one honorary charlatan. We may like them, we may hate them. We don't know yet. So more than 42,000 pounds of pistachios vanished from Touchstone Pistachio Company in California earlier in June. The company enlisted law enforcement to help them discover what happened. And the Tulare County Sheriff's office later arrived, arrested Alberto Motomayor, 34, with his nuts. Since you guys did there. So Alberto had the nuts on him. He had a thing on him when they caught him. He's 34 years old. Okay, so Moto Mayor had been hiding the nuts in a trailer in a nearby parking lot to repackage for sale. Nuts heists have become more common, mostly due to their value relative to their size and lack of serial numbers, unlike electronics or car part parts. Between 2014 and 2017, more than 7.6 million was lost in nut heist.
- [53:08]
Chris Gethard
Nut heists?
- [53:10]
Lacey Mosley
Who's making that movie? We've seen the ones where they break into the Brinks truck. But like, who's making the movie where they fight Mr. Peanut and. And take all of his shit?
- [53:20]
Chris Gethard
This is a real world. That this is why I love the earth. This is why I love humanity. That there's a whole swirling world of there's. And there's people who really have to care hard about nut heists, who figure out how to stop them. There's people at the FBI assigned to nut heists. There's private security firms that nut harvesting companies hire to protect their nuts from the nut heisters. And it's out there and it's going on every day. And none of the rest of us give a shit about it because we don't think about nuts.
- [53:49]
Lacey Mosley
Right. I just eat the nuts. I've never thought about where they came from, who heisted them.
- [53:53]
Chris Gethard
You know, you've probably eaten stolen nuts.
- [53:56]
Lacey Mosley
We probably all have. And I love a good pistachio. Here's what I will say, though. Like, everything that grows on the earth belongs to the earth. And it's such a fake, made up thing that people are like, I own this land or I own these nuts. Bitch, you don't own these nuts. These nuts were here before you. So, yeah, steal them nuts. Everybody steal the nuts.
- [54:14]
Chris Gethard
This is bringing. I feel like there's potential for a whole new connotation to the phrase deez nuts. These nuts is your nuts. Deez nuts is my nuts.
- [54:23]
Lacey Mosley
Deez nuts is your nuts. Deez nuts is my nuts.
- [54:29]
Chris Gethard
These nuts belong to all of us.
- [54:31]
Lacey Mosley
These nuts were made for you and me, okay? Like, they're for all of us. So it's currently unclear how multi mayor acquired his pistachios, but thieves have previously used forged documents and companies to pose as legitimate truckers. So they pulling up, like, here for the nuts. And really, they're not supposed to be here for the nuts.
- [54:51]
Chris Gethard
Oh, fake truck. That's the nut scam.
- [54:55]
Lacey Mosley
I love it. Forever involved. I think I like the scam. Alberto, keep jacking them nuts. I don't want to see Alberto go to jail for nuts. Like, this feels ridiculous.
- [55:05]
Chris Gethard
See, but that I feel like you just set yourself up because somebody's gonna isolate the audio of you saying, alberto, keep jacking them nuts, and it could come back to haunt you.
- [55:15]
Lacey Mosley
That is a very good clip. Oh, wow. Well, Chris, we always ask on the show, where can people find you? Where do you want to be found?
- [55:23]
Chris Gethard
Where do I want to be found? Well, people can check out my new special, as mentioned up top. And I'm going on the road, and I'll be doing like 25 different cities in the coming yes year. So chrisgeth.com you can get info on all that and ticket sales and whatnot. Yeah, I'd love to see people. We'll eat some nuts. We'll eat some counterfeit nuts.
- [55:43]
Lacey Mosley
Yes, eat all the counterfeit nuts together. I love this for you and for everyone who's gonna attend your hilarious ass shows. And guys, as always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, scamgoddesspodmail.com just make sure that your scam is retired. Pablo is not. Guys, he's still out here. So maybe, maybe if you come to California and you rent a boat, look out for Pablo. He's very sweaty constantly, so he's easy to find. But if you want to find me, D I V A L A C I D V on all platforms, all episodes of a Black Lace sketch show are streaming now on HBO Max. And I think there's six episodes of iCarly out right now, so that comes out every Thursday on Paramount. Plus, thank you guys for supporting me. I love you. Congregation, Stay steaming. Stay nutjack. Second Scam Goddess. This has been an earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargbo, engineered by Marina Paiz, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.