
Every era has thieves, but only some have taste! Laci welcomes Olympic medalist and podcaster Adam Rippon (Intrusive Thoughts) to break down today’s loudest wig heists, from ripping your own wig off and offering it to Beyoncé, to stealing them from boutiques, to snatching them right off people’s heads. Plus wig thieves may be shocked to discover they follow in the footsteps of a rich, 300-year history of literal wig-snatchers. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at ScamGoddessPod@gmail.com. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Adam Rippon: @adaripp Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/wig-snatcher-caught-on-camera-at-stonecrest-mall https://nypost.com/2025/04/26/us-news/thief-who-went-to-prison-for-20-years-jailed-for-nyc-wig-theft/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/brooklyn/thief-s...
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Robbery and fraud Scam God is what's poppin Congregation, it's your girl. Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam God, is back with the new installment of the podcast, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will figure out on the way. As you guys know, I'm always. What? Very. Yes. Excited. Elated. Ecstatic. I'm still in Ireland, y', all, but I got one more week after this and I'll be back in ghetto ass America. But I do miss it. I do miss it. My guest today is an Olympic medalist, a retired figure skater, and a gay icon. And I know that because I've been at many a gay event with him, and he's always serving and making me laugh. He is a pioneering athlete who became the first openly gay US Athlete to win a medal at the Winter Olympics. We got an Olympic winner, okay? Podium. Podium.
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Period.
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He won the 26th season of Dancing with the Stars. He can't stop winning and has appeared on shows like Will and Grace, Good Morning America, and most recently was cast on St. Denis Medical, Season 2. And this just in. He is opening a medical spa. Yes. A legal business. Okay. Congregation, please welcome the incredibly talented and first timer Adam Rippon to the show. I feel like this is way too long, Adam, because I'm always running into you in the streets.
B
I know. I feel like this is way overdue. But, Lacy, I'm so glad to be talking to you From America. We all say hello, we miss you. We can't wait until you're back.
A
Thank you.
B
We're holding down the fort, though, so. And we're making sure all the scams are still alive and well before you come back.
A
And I love it. I love it so, so, so much.
B
You know, I think that you'd be a great skater, by the way.
A
No, I'm very clumsy.
B
No, no, I don't believe that. I think it's all about, like, pizzazz and, like, showmanship, which you have.
A
Yeah, I could only skate on film, which I have done on Scam God is the TV show. And as soon as we got the shot and I was out of frame, I literally ran into a tree and fail. So I've tested it.
I was laid out in Miami on the boardwalk on South Beach. Like.
Listen, I can only play graceful for, like, 30 seconds at a time, but, no, if they're watching full time.
B
No, no, no, no, no.
A
Your girl's gonna fall. I actually have a baby girl injury right now. I scraped my knee on something, and then I had to wear pantyhose to work the other day, and. And they were like, oh, your knee is scraped. And it's such a childish injury to scrape your knee like it is. Like, if you burn like. We're adults. We're supposed to be burning our hands. Cooking, slicing ourself a little bit, chopping onions.
B
Yeah, you need a cast. A cast? A brace.
A
These are adult injuries. You know, paper cuts, things of that nature. Maybe slamming your hand in a car door. We'll let you have that one. But getting a knee scrape, that's like, how old are you? Grow up. You scraping your knee? Was you on the monkey bars? Be serious.
B
Wait, how did you scrape your knee, by the way? Good night, everyone. I think that's the end.
A
Yeah, it's. It's a seat. It's a. I'll just say this. If y' all listen to the last episode, it was at the Berlin airport. I know. I was under distress. Don't worry about it.
We're not getting into a. Jess, don't worry. Don't worry. Rich. Oh, my God. The Last I had an episode with Jenny Slate recently there's They're Fabulous. And I had to get some shit off my chest because I went to Berlin, and I think I took, like, 25 minutes. But Jess is an amazing producer and so Rich is great. Like, they're. They're great. So I'm just like, they'll figure out how to get this down. Because before we got to the scam, it was literally 25 minutes of me being like, and another thing.
But, yeah, that's how I got my baby girl knee scrape. And I was like, this is so childish and I really need to grow up.
B
Like, no, that's. So. I've never thought of, like, that. I never thought of, like, an injury being, like, a baby injury. But. But it is, because you know what? I was just watching the Victoria Beckham, like, little docu series on Netflix, and one of the models, like, fell off her bike and scraped her knee. And I did think. I was like, I haven't heard of anyone over the age of 12, like, scraping their knee. Yes.
A
I'mma tell people I scraped my knee during my taxes. Yeah.
I scraped my knee on the way to the voting booth. Mom. Danny.
I gotta come up with some type of lie. Cause it's either a baby injury or an elderly injury in where I'm like, I fall and I can't get up.
B
Or I was in the bathtub and.
A
It got slippery, you know? No, no.
B
100% an injury from Prop 50. That's what you. That's.
A
Yeah, that's what it was.
B
Yes.
A
And I had to make sure it passed. So I got up quickly. You know, I was running to the polls because I left my adult job, and the polls were about to close as an adult, and so I was running to the polls, and, you know, a baby tripped me. Mm. A baby tripped me. And that's how, you know you scraped your knee.
B
Exactly, Exactly. The ballot went into the box as I was working.
A
I was also making a car payment and my utilities, and I was making a doctor's appointment for my physical, my yearly checkup. That's what happened.
B
That's what I would have thought would have happened.
A
Because it was very grown. It was very grown how it happened, but. All right. What is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Anything? You can talk about this. Pass the statute of limitations.
B
This is something that I currently think is a scam.
A
Okay. Need to know.
B
Okay, I think that this is going to be a little controversial, but I Just think that. I think organic things are a scam.
A
Oh, they don't have no poison on it.
B
Well, okay, listen.
A
Absolutely. I'm not even going to steal that. That's a joke. Laura Shane made that. I said, in Florida, girls, I picked up an avocado and we were so poor that I was like, oh, it's organic. That mean it ain't got no poison on.
But go ahead. Organic is a scam.
B
Okay. I think organic things are a scam because they still use pesticides. Okay, so organic products still use pesticides, but like non organic things use synthetic pesticides. But you know, the synthetic pesticides are like, they're man made.
A
The pesticide BBL Ex.
B
Well, yeah. Yes. So then your organic products, they use like, they use like organic pesticides, but they're not as effective as synthetic ones. So it doesn't mean that they don't use any. They have to use more for it to be as effective.
A
Now are these pesticides out there like, oh, let's put lemon juice on it or like, let's have a guy fight the, the bugs all day?
B
No, these pesticides are like full blown chemicals.
But the organic ones aren't like a guy or like lemon juice and vinegar and bake. It's not like some like buddy going out there with baking soda. Like, they're also chemicals. Not all natural things are good.
A
That's true.
B
So I believe. I'm not like, I. And also there's like no substantial nutritional value. There's no like nutritional difference in a non organic or organic produce. It's basically a wash. And maybe it.
A
Was just one of those things to move the goalposts. Because I remember, like, I remember I was not alive. You weren't either. Nobody really was listening to this podcast.
B
I can't wait to see what you remember. I remember the year was 1543.
A
Literally. No, I literally was going back that far because I'm talking about how, you know, the spice trade happened and everyone wanted spices and how spices used to be this indication of wealth. And then once spices became widely available, available to the general public, just like the wealthy class always does, they're like, oh, we don't do spices anymore. We actually want food with no spice because it's such high quality that we don't need to season it. Like, there's always a moving of the goal post. And that's what organic does feel like to me is like we're shifting to like, oh, you pores, you pores can afford avocado fruit.
B
It is not anymore.
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Not anymore. Now. Now we have organic avocados. We're not having that poison on them.
B
Can you tell me again, is that why, like, white people eventually, like, went away from any sort of spiced food?
C
No.
B
Oh, my God. That's insanity.
A
I mean, it's a scam. They were like, how do we stay fancy in this beach? I mean, it's just the same way that, like, it's actually not the same way in this way, but. But I always enjoy knowing that lobster used to be prisoner food, like, in the day and Alcatraz type shit. And then they were like. And they were like, oh, well, you know what? Actually, we're gonna super expensive and make it a delicacy. It's a bug in the sea and I love it. It's one of my favorite bugs.
B
Yeah, I. So this is what I'm getting, like, annoyed with, like, the organic stuff, because they do a lot of different things where it's like. Another thing is, like, with chicken, right? Where they go, it's air chilled. And the idea is that if it's air chills, they didn't put it through, like, a chlorine bath. Okay, a chlorine bath doesn't sound great. Right. But it's to kill a bunch of, like, bacteria and shit from, like, when they're cutting the chicken up or, like, raw milk. Oh, get over the raw milk. I. Listen, stop. You're not going to the teat of the cow and like, and getting your raw.
A
That's sucking on cow titty.
B
That's disgusting.
A
Put that cow titty away.
B
Disgusting.
A
What?
B
Stupid. The raw milk.
A
It's just also, I hate when people be. Are like, empowered by not having information. They're like, well, they're not telling you this. Yeah, girl. Because it's not something to be told. You made this up. That's why they're not telling nobody that. Because it's not a thing that should be told.
You went on a. You went on the Internet. I used to. When we grew up, we. We learned about sources. I swear, I'm like one of the last few, like, fully media literacy educated children in America. Like, like our. Our generation.
B
Yeah. How old are you, if I may ask? Okay.
A
Yeah, we're older than you.
B
Yeah, well, not far.
A
You look great.
B
You look great. I would have met.
A
For acting purposes. I mean, you can Google me and figure it out, but, you know, for acting purposes, I'm still baby girl, okay? I scraped my knee, baby. I got smilac on my breast.
B
Exactly. All you need to know is I Can work adult hours.
A
That's it, right? That's it. That's all you need to know. Okay, Put me in a teen drama, okay, As a disposable black girl love interest, and also the support system to the white lady who says, you go, white girl. I'll drive to the airport. So I need those jobs. They pay my bills. So, yeah, like, they get on Reddit or they get on Wikipedia, which I'm like, sweetheart, Wikipedia is a site that anybody can edit. It's not a reliable source. Reddit is a place where people are just talking online anonymously. These are not sources. These are not places that can be sued for putting out misinformation.
B
Or, like, all of these experts. Experts, they come out and they're like the mitochondria in your cell bank. Photosynthesis. And they go on this thing where you're like, okay, I'm with you. And then you dig a little deeper, and they're like, all you have to do is buy my supplements or my book or, okay, the medical medium. Okay? I fell for this scam in the pandemic of Drink the celery juice, okay?
A
Celery juice. I thought you were gonna say the colloidal silver. And I was about to be like, adam, did you turn blue?
B
Okay, I did buy, like, colloidal silver at one point because somebody I. Cause, listen, I think all of this, like, rfk, like, Maha stuff was all supposed to just, like, live on Facebook, and you were supposed to try it for three days and then forget about it.
A
You were supposed to never try it. Now I can't even be this judgmental because I did Silver on the con on abc because we were talking about it, and I wanted to taste it.
B
I wanted to taste it.
A
This is not from a judgmental place, okay?
B
You can't. I, like, I should be, like, judged, so please don't refrain.
A
Colonial Silver is bumping me a little bit. But you know what? It was Covid. They had a murder error.
B
This was this. Why? Not that. I tried the silver.
A
Okay, that's better, actually. That's better.
B
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Starting to sweat there.
A
I caught diva. Okay. No, but pre Covid, drink all you want, right?
B
No repercussions. It's just. I just. That's. That. I. When I found out about the blue man, I was like, I think. No, I think we're not onto something. I think we're off of something.
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Organically I'm going to transition into my favorite segment here, Historic Hoodwinks. This is where I am going to regale Adam with a famous con caper. Group of criminals will get his opinions all throughout. And I picked this one because we've been on a lot of very fun queer shows and you know, we know about a wig. Okay. Even if we not wearing, we know about a wig. So recent hair thieves may be shocked to learn learn they follow in footsteps of a rich history of literal wig snatchers going back 300 years. So we're taking it back again. And I remember all of this. Remember?
B
No, I do. This is your, like, your time to shine.
A
So wigs have always been expensive, at least good ones. They're one of the only luxury goods you can buy that is made from another person's body, which I don't like to think about it.
B
Like, I don't. Me either. I'm like, suddenly disgusted by the idea of it.
A
Why would they say it like that?
B
I know weaves, wigs.
A
I'm like, oh, it's 100 human hair. Because I got it like that. But then now they're telling me I'm, I'm wearing a lady body or. Or whoever donated the hair, I'm wearing a body.
B
Yeah, it's all about the phrasing of it too. Because if it's because in any other context, you're like, 100 human hair. You're like, this is. It couldn't get better. But as soon as you say the hair is from human hair.
It becomes scary.
A
It's only hair that you can be like, this is 100 human hair. Because if I was like, I got my teeth fixed or something, I was like, this is 100 human teeth. No, it makes it bad.
B
You know what? That's crazy. That is true. You're right. You can't go into the dentist with like a pocket full of teeth going.
A
But I've been collecting these. They are 100% human. I want them installed today. No.
Why does that change everything?
B
I know it does.
Okay.
A
Okay.
B
I'm still here.
A
It's like, you know, I get my nails done. That's 100% human. Nail. Like, whose nails?
B
There's nothing. There's no other body part. That is true. There is. I don't know if. Is the hair a body part? I think it's like a body. Things that comes out of a body. It's not a. Like a psyche.
A
Dead, isn't it?
B
Yes. Yeah.
A
So I'm wearing dead people's stuff or. Or like their stuff is dead and they gave me they dead. Oh, okay. I can't think about this. I'm a black woman. You know how much fake hair I wear? No, I'm putting it out of my mind.
B
No, yeah, don't worry about it. I don't think.
A
No, no, no, no, no, no. Luxury wigs are a three billion dollar industry today. And a third of that business happens in North America. And I. I know I said that I'm a black woman, which, if y' all didn't know I just came out as black, y' all already know I was gay. But white women, every, every race of women wears wigs. You may just not notice. Like, Sabrina Carpenter recently came out and said she came out as a wig wearer. And she was like, these are wigs. And they were like, what?
B
Oh, my God. The most unshocking reveal. Literally time. Yeah.
A
But still very country. But like, you know, everyone's wearing wigs. So the most expensive wig available costs $12,000 and is made of pure Russian hair. Russian hair can't be bought wholesale. And it's priced higher because it isn't Chinese or Indian, which are more common.
Supremacy. Because Russia is what y' all be eating over there, Potatoes and gelatins.
Maybe gelatin is good for the hair.
B
I think it is, but I don't think it's any better than Indian hair. I mean.
A
No, it's giving racism because the, the India hair, the Brazilian hair. Luscious.
B
Yeah.
A
So soft, thick.
B
Yeah.
A
Usually a 1B. Naturally I'm here for it. Except for when they steal it, which they do be stealing it. But I don't know if they still look.
B
You don't know if your hair got $12,000. Feels cheap for a nice, nice wig, right?
A
Yeah, because I'm thinking of like a plucked lace front.
B
Like, me too.
A
On a set. Well, that's 10k easy. Like, before we base. Like, that's not even plugs. That's not even, like, that's just like. Because they're installing the wig. If you've never had like a. And I actually wear a wig on the show that I'm on now, and it's a really, really nice lace front wig. They went and redid the hairline for me. It's just tiny pieces of lace. And they're individually sewing each piece of hair through the lace so that it looks natural and appears like a scalp. They're very expensive and they're very time consuming. So it's 12,000. I think the Russians were trying to flex because, baby, that's not real wig. Many over here.
B
No, I don't think so. No. I actually, I find wigs so fascinating that I know a lot about them because I just find them so when they're done. Well, it's. I mean, it's an art. That's a true art. Making a wig.
A
It is. And like, right now, because I'm wearing a wig, I have to wear my hair in straight back braids, so I look like little Bill on the weekends.
So what I'm wearing now is a wig. And the thing I hate about this wig is it's so shiny and like, real human hair. It's really not this shiny all the time. They treated it with something. And the only reason I know it's real is because my hairstylist on set, he burned some of it. That's how you can tell. And if it burns like real hair, it's real hair. If it melts, then it's fake. So it is real. But, like, I thought this was gonna be a good place because in Ireland, they have some kind of this. I love Irish people. God damn. If you're going through a chemo treatment or something that makes you lose your hair, you can get a stipend from the government for a wig.
B
That's amazing.
A
Isn't that amazing?
B
That is amazing.
A
But only certain places take it. But, like, they're pretty expensive. And I. And I thought to myself, I was like, well, if they. They helping the cancer patients with the wig, then when I this wig. And I was desperate, I needed a wig asap. I couldn't be out here little billing it like, they. They braided my hair up day one. I was like, I can't be out here. So I ran. I ran after the braiding to get.
B
Little Bill is so fun. I mean, I feel your pain because if they. If they had to do that to my hair, I'd be out here looking like Caillou. So it just be the two of us, Little Bill and Caillou around Dublin. So I get it. I understand what you're saying and the urgency.
A
I had to become a baddie again asap. So I went in there. This wig was super expensive. I'm not going to say how, but I was like, it has to be good. And then they cut some bangs because I was like, I'm not trying to do a leave out. I'm not trying to fuck with lace on the weekends.
B
Yeah.
A
So I got it, but it was so shiny. And then this. Be angry. I swear, when I take her off, I wake up in the morning and this hoe is drunk. I'm like, how did you get tangled? I put you on a wig mannequin. What did you. What were you doing? Like, she's so frustrating, but I can't let her go because of how much I paid for her. But I'm also like, can I get her treated? I've taken her to several hairstylists here to work on her. She's getting better. But, yes, wigs are a thing, and they can be a thing for many different reasons. So we have a Forbes article right here, and it's got Rihanna with fenty beauty on it, which is confusing to me because it says, inside Hollywood's luxury wig industry. Hollywood, high fashion and hair loss.
Hollywood high fashion and hair loss. The three Hs.
B
Yeah. The trifecta.
A
So. Valued at approximately 3 billion. The rapidly rising luxury wig industry encompasses celebrities, cancer patients, which I just mentioned, fashion brands and more with human hair pieces eating or, like, costing up to, like, $12,000. Forbes, y' all ain't never met a real wig bitch. Cause it's more than 12K. Forbes. Whoever wrote that she ain't never had a bus down. They. He ain't never had a bus down. But that was cute that y' all said that. But that's not. Forbes reported that. But we know Forbes. Like, they love criminals. How many people in their 30 under 30 go to prison? You know, like, we. You know, I love Forbes shout out to y', all, but I think y' all got that wrong.
B
Yeah, I just think I.
I just think 12,000 isn't enough. I can't imagine Beyonce putting. I think maybe the back of her wig is 12,000.
A
Yeah. No, because, I mean, I heard that it was rumored that Kerry Washington's wig on scandal was like 10,000, but I think it was over that. But it. Maybe they're trying to say, like, raw material price versus, like, raw material resale and labor.
B
Yeah. Cause wasn't there something about, like, the wig Cynthia Riva wore in wicked was like, $20,000?
A
Yes, that's what I'm like. Cause it was, like, braided. It looked good as hell. Like.
B
Yeah, it looked really good.
A
If I was Cynthia, the last day that we shot the Wicked two, I. I would have left set real fast, and I not left green. I would have left green. I would have got in the car and be like, drive, drive, drive, and kept.
B
I know. I was thinking that. I'm like, well, what. What can they do? They can't do anything with those wigs anymore. She should just take them.
A
No, they can. Because I'm trying to steal my wig from my job right now, and they talking about production. Go keep it for next season. Well, that's not an announcement, y'. All, if there's. When there's a next season, because we have to speak positivity. But they'll keep it. And then whenever the show finishes again, positivity.
B
Right.
A
The make the hair artists be trying to buy the wig up off of them.
B
Okay, that's interesting.
A
I don't want to bought a wig, but the hairstylist did find a wig, but I'm like, I think I might have to get it from you, sis.
B
Right. This morning they bought it for you, though, right?
A
And I watch it get put on every day. I know how to do it now.
B
Right, Exactly. No, I think that you should. We should talk to somebody.
A
The hair situation is just very exhausting. And I love my hair. I love my curl pattern. I love my texture. But it's just like, getting ready every day. It adds another 30 minutes. Yes.
B
Like, I listen, I don't know the struggle, but I have, like, naturally, like, curly hair. Like, this is, like, my hair. And for many years, I would get, like, Brazilian blowouts where it's this basic, like a. Like, it'd be straight. And I couldn't tell you how life changing it was because you just wake up and you're like, I guess my hair is done. It's. It is crazy.
A
So much time off your day. Yeah. And, like, honestly, like, I have to. And it's not even the straight thing. It's like, I love to wear a curly, too, but, like, like, honestly, straight, curly, whatever it is, if it's my hair, it's more work to really get it. How I like it to look cuz I'm very particular and I can't have that hair that attracts like older rich white men. Cuz that I can't do that. Although I might have to let this wig struggle outside and go ahead and get my Irish husband so I can get some citizenship or my Irish wife. Okay. But also I have to get into full drag and shout out to y' all who made podcasts a television show now. Because now I have to get into drag every day when I record the podcast because the Internet is forever. So a wig just makes life easier. But so anyway, we learned about the Russian twelve thousand dollar wig. I think that. I don't know it's giving made up because y' all don't even know how much it should cost. Talking about it's exclusive and better. I don't know. Petrov. So where there's money, there's someone to steal it.
B
We know that.
A
And that counts for human hair too. In 1967 in Brazil, a gang of hair thieves consisting of a fat man driving a small taxi. Why y' all have to call him fat? I don't know if that was necessary.
B
That's. That's in his description.
A
A fat man driving a small taxi.
B
That's amazing.
A
A boy about 14 and two women dressed as police. Women were reported to have cut the hair off of 10 women near Sao Paulo. In 2013, a Venezuelan gang of hair thieves known as the Piranhas operated in broad daylight at a shopping mall in the city of Maracalao. The gang members.
B
I love it there.
A
I love it there. I love Maracavao. Several of them female were known to surround their victim and force them to pull their hair back into a ponytail and cut it off. That is so traumatic.
B
Yeah.
A
I do not agree with this at all. I mean, there's a Chris Rock movie which I bet you if I watched it now, doesn't hold up, but called Good Hair. And they're talking about hair texture, about black women's hair, about weave wigs, they're talking about hair trade and sales. And they talk about how there's like a temple or a few temples in India where people will go to shave like girls and boys will go to shave their head at a certain period of their life.
B
But it's like a scam.
A
Well, they're doing it for the right reasons for them. But they don't know that somebody is sweeping that up afterwards, taking it upstairs and sewing it on a weft and mailing it to us.
B
Yes.
A
That to me is more I mean, none of this is ethical, but I'm gonna put them closer to ethical than running around jacking people's ponytails.
B
That's crazy, right? You are right that it is more ethical to, like, trick someone into believing something, that they're doing something like a religious ceremony, than it is to, like, pull your hair back.
A
Now, longer than weave.
B
Yes. Yeah.
A
So I think they really do believe that. And if I walk away, that's what I define as scammers. If I walk away and I feel good about what I did, then that's not a scam to me. That could be giving somebody money. That could be cutting off my hair in a temple. Like, I would think, like, oh, as long as I feel good and this feels like a good experience, I'm cool with that. I wouldn't be thinking about necessarily if they're sweeping up and making a lot of money. But then when you think about people who might do this and they're poor, if they had known maybe that they could have cut it off and sold it, you know, but that would just be one bag for them. Like, this hair takes time to grow.
B
For everybody, no matter how fast you can grow it.
A
Yeah. So that's me. Not that bad. But robbing people of their hair, which is some people's, like, identity, their crown and glory. I mean, look how fast I fucking ran to get this. This wig. Because I was like, I look. I can't look like a Milk D everything.
I'm the brown Eminem with lip gloss on. I don't have the head for short hair. I don't have the head for straight backs. I look like I was on baddies. And then they was like, I need that. I need that. And then I'm fighting Natalie Nun.
B
What?
A
What? Why? Why.
B
I'm with you, though, that's traumatizing to be, like, surrounded and. And they cut your hair. That's so crazy. That is wild, wild, wild crazy.
A
And I'm sure you could be imagining it might be something worse. It's not like they're coming over like, hey, we're here for your hair. Like, they're surrounding you. Oh, so you don't even know what they're here for.
B
Like, yanking them by the hair, pulling them, and, like, hacking it off.
A
They're like, I got a ponytail holder right here in a pony.
B
Slick it back.
A
Shock hair robbery is crazy. Like, just take my wallet.
B
I know you need less people.
A
Throw that money back. Or at least cast my calls faster. Or my car is faster than I could grow my hair. Back like, how you gonna rob me for my hair?
B
Totally. No. That's so crazy. Wait. Thinking about wigs, I remember two, like, wig controversies from, like, Tick Tock. Well, one controversy.
A
Oh, I want to. I want to see if you guessed one of the ones I was gonna talk about. Go ahead.
B
The wigs by Shani. Do you have. You do?
A
Okay.
B
This was like. This was like a white woman. I think she made them for, like, Orthodox Jewish women. And her wigs are very expensive. I think they, like, start at 10k, but then, like, Black Twitter or Black Tick Tock started, like, seeing these videos, and they were like, these thin wigs are $10,000 because they're like, it's. It looks very. Like, this is my natural hair. It looks like you'd need to put clip ins in. Not shy.
A
Doing shenanigans. Not the shenanigans.
B
And so this was a big thing that I couldn't stop seeing, like, videos about wigs by Shawnee. And then the other thing that, like, is wig involved is like, every maybe once or twice a year, I see this girl and she. In the Pandemic, I remember, was collecting the hair, like, out of a brush out of the drain, and she'd, like, tape it to the wall. And I recently saw, and she has like. Like, she could almost do a full install.
A
Out of whose brush?
B
Her own. This is her own hair that she's been taking.
A
That's kind of cool.
B
It's amazing. I love it. I wish I thought of it said, oh, you thought.
A
Shedding. Shedding.
B
We.
A
We reuse and recycle over here.
B
You should. I'm shocked that you've never seen this before. Maybe this is what I'm attracted up on.
A
Tik Tok. Right after this. What I was going to say was there was a woman who was working at a wig factory and was like, I can't believe that we can't fucking bring Stanley Cups to work no more. And everybody was like, okay, why? Because what kind of weird work policy is that? And she was like, one of our employees was caught. She had been stealing wigs in her stan. Her Stanley Cup. She would come to work with her Stanley cup, and each day she would stuff some wigs in it.
And I was like, why don't y' all fire her? Put her on loss prevention. She's so talented.
B
Like, that's so genius.
A
And I know she was sipping on her wig cup, walking out like, all right, sh. I'll see y' all tomorrow.
B
Mmm, delicious.
A
Mm.
B
What's that one B2 oh my God. That is so funny.
A
So people get creative when it comes to hair robbery.
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B
Like yes.
A
In the states. So one modern day wig snatcher struck the store. Yes, I'm beautiful in Atlanta in 2022. Owner Trishana Sampson. Trishana Sampson sound like she take built the ass. I wouldn't steal from Tresano.
Shauna Simpson sound like she be in the trenches. I don't know about that. I mean even her like business name is like kind of confrontational. Yes comma I am beautiful. And what about it? And what the I am beautiful. The now get your ass in here. Buy some beautiful ass hair.
B
You're right. The comma makes it. Yeah, the comma makes it. Yes, I am beautiful. It is confrontational.
A
It's very American coded. I, I learned in Ireland that like there's, you know the song for he's a child a good fellow. For he's a child a good fellow. So we were singing this randomly as a joke and then we got to the end and the Irish people wait, I have to get it absolutely right.
B
I'm pretty excited to hear the difference. Cause I have a feeling it's gonna be like so like, like passive.
A
So they say, for he's a child good fellow. For he's a child good fellow. So and so and so. And then when they get to the end, they say and so say all of us. And so say all of us. And I was like, we got to the end. And I was like, which nobody can deny. And everybody was like, what? And we were like, if nobody can deny, what are y' all saying?
B
Right?
A
And I realized I was like, oh wait, I'm from the most aggressive country. Of course we trying to fight. At the end of the song we were like, for him he's a guy, a good fellow.
B
Yeah.
A
And you better not say otherwise. Not don't deny it. Ho he a good fellow.
B
Cuz we said am beautiful.
A
Right? Yes, I am beautiful. Don't make me stab you now. Come and buy my wares. Like what is wrong with us?
B
It's not I know. We're so sick.
A
So, yes, I'm beautiful, right? In Atlanta, this 2022, we got Trishana Sampson again. I told you I would never play with her.
B
No, she can fight.
A
She says she lost thousands in a hair high.
B
Christ. I believe it. I believe it.
A
Oceans 11 inches.
So she was robbed during business hours in plain sight. Why did it sound like they was robbing the Louvre? Why did it sound familiar?
Not him.
B
Is he who stole? Is he who stole.
A
Oh, my God. So in the video, you can see a female thief running off with two wigs and their mannequin heads. Now, she took the proper storage as she took a 50 inch wig, which cost $1,200. And she took a 34 inch wig, which was more attainable at 875. Trishana offered a $1,000 reward for information on the theft, along with a free wig. But the theft is still at large. So the. The thief took $2,075 worth of hair, and Trashawna offered $1,000 for tips and a free wig. That's how I know Trishauna Sampson was ready to beat ass because she was like, I'mma take. I'm gonna take another loss and make it 3075 because I want to beat your ass.
B
Yeah, I'll put these books in the red.
A
I don't give a. Shoshana the crash out.
She was like, just drop a.
B
Exactly.
A
Drop a pin. And Ms. Sampson showing up with three of her cousins. And it's on.
So we got wig snatchers in Brooklyn? Of course we do. We're going to all the crime.
Snatching meccas. So another recent wig snatcher got away with 30,000. $30,000 of hairware from a Brooklyn shop this past March of 2025. So y' all about to have armed guards in the hair store. And this is crazy.
B
30,000. That's cr. That's a lot of hair.
A
Yeah. And this. This place is called. This. This wig store. It's called called Hustle Week.
B
It's still somehow less confrontational than yes, I am beautiful.
A
But hustle, it gives me like. Oh, you. You gonna try to rob a bank? Like, come in here and get your hustle wig. Are you spying on your baby daddy? Come in. The hustle wig.
B
Yeah, I just think it's like the wigs for entrepreneurs.
A
The hustle serial entrepreneurs.
B
Exactly. Yes.
A
You're going to set it off. Off. Hustle wig.
B
Hustle wig.
A
Okay. Hustle wigs can be switched very quickly. You can go from one wig to the Next, you run it from the cops. Hustle wig. Have one in your purse, switch it, and then you can walk down the street. They're not gonna noise you. I mean, I'm into it. So this is on Dean street in Crown Heights, and it's run by high school best friends slash business partners Raviki Krasinski and Giddy Cohen. Are y' all Jewish?
B
All right, get it. Get it. Getty Cohen.
A
Okay. And y' all named it Hustle Wig Shop.
B
I know it's not adding up all.
A
The way, but they ain't Crown Heist. They. They standing on business. You know what? I'm not mad.
They use real human hair to make wigs for women who wear them for religious reasons.
B
Yes. And those wigs are very. Like I said, they're very expensive, those wigs.
A
Did they. Why are they hustling people who got religious stuff? And. And. And also, they make them for people who have people who are going through chemo. So are y' all telling your customers you hustling them?
B
I know what's going on?
A
I don't know. You know what? It's cuz they're in Crown Heights. They just had to blend in. They were like, I don't know. What's black?
B
Hustle Hustle Wigs.
A
Yeah. Brick Ross just came out with that song. Every day I'm hustling, we just add wig to it. Every damn hustle.
B
It was, like, of the time to name it that. Yes.
A
And of Crown Heights. I'm kind of not mad at it. Y' all didn't try to gentrify the place. Y' all bl. Very cute. So early one Tuesday morning, their shop was hit by a suspect riding a city bike. Nine of the stolen hair pieces were valued around $3,300 each. Police caught a career criminal with nearly 60 arrests on his record named Darren Ware. Like, Darren Ware clearly burglarizing the shop on surveillance cameras. Can we get the photo of Darren Ware up? Okay, Dar.
B
Oh, he needed a wig. Yeah. Bald. First things first.
A
Some for me, some for the streets.
I mean, they say never tell a. Like, never let a bald man tell you how to grow hair. But can a bald man teach you how to steal wigs?
B
Apparently not on camera.
A
Yeah, he got caught. See, this is why they say never let a tail.
B
Right?
A
They say never let a bald man tell you about hair. He can't even steal hair. Hair. That's how bald he is.
B
He can't even steal it.
A
He can't grow it, and he can't steal it.
B
And so is that. I'm guessing he has a bucket and a flashlight, which are kind of essential if you're going to be stealing wigs. Unless you have a Stanley bag. Right? He has a bag. He has a backpack on as well, right?
A
Oh, I don't know about this, man.
B
So do they recover? What happens?
A
Well, he made two separate trips to the shop. He took hair hats. As we can see, some hats are missing. A light up sign that says Hustle. Now, you just wanted that for your house stop. And a bag of loose human hair that had just arrived in a shipment. So you. Okay, first of all, sir, you didn't even get the hair. That's already on the web. I know. Your bald ass can't sell no hair to no whiff. Like, what are you thinking, sir? He's just ransacking the place. So, Giddy Cohen said recently the price of hair and wigs has gone up significantly. So it makes sense that somebody would know that hair and wigs are higher cost item. Darren was caught and locked up on Rikers Island. That's one of the worst prisons in the U.S. and if I went there for stealing. Loose, dead hair.
B
Loose hair. What are you in for, Lacy? I stole loose hair off the ground of a Jewish girl's store.
A
And I'm your cell. I'm here for stabbing. Just stabbing.
B
But I didn't sign the hustle sign.
A
The Hustle sign. You want to be next to Mr. Stabber in Rikers for God knows how long? Because it's what they do over there is not legal. And there have been so many cases where they hold people without bail and they die there. You. You going to Rikers?
B
No.
A
For loose hairs.
B
For loose hairs. I'm gonna guess he did not know how to put them into a wig. So he was really hoping that once he got out there, he's gonna find a maker.
A
I feel like he was gonna try to take it home to his mama or his girl and be like, babe.
B
You know what to do.
A
You always got that in your head. Like, what do we do with this? He's got a fist of loose hair.
B
You're right. Oh, my God, you're right.
A
A woman was about to be involved. So I'm glad. I'm kind of glad they put y' all away before this change. Orange is the new black. So we got Wig Snatchers Funeral Home. We're.
B
We're.
A
We're getting to the end of this. Most recently, a Texas woman was arrested after taking the wig off of a body at a funeral home. An employee woman named Tanya leaving the funeral home with a reddish brown wig in her hand. The director said they realized one was missing from a body the next day. Tanya.
B
I kind of love Tanya. I mean, they weren't. That body was not gonna need the wig.
A
No. Okay. More points to Tanya. If it was after the service, if it was after the film, we're closing that casket. We're never going to see that person again. So, you know, I don't know. It's how. You've got a receding hairline. I feel like she was about to rock that.
B
But. And she's got, like, she was ready to wear the wig, because I do see that she's got her makeup done.
A
And she's giving face in her mug shot. Like, can y' all let me hold the wig for the mug shot real quick? At least. At least before it goes in the evidence locker? Like, come on. Yes.
B
I mean, it looks like they took the wig fresh off her. She. I think she's feeling quite good about her. Herself in her red hair, because she does.
A
I can't tell if it's graying hair or if that's, like. You know, when you put on a lace front, you get that, like, if you take it off, there's like, glue line.
B
Yes.
A
Is that a glue line? Because it goes all the way around. Did they snatch the wig off of her before the picture? That's disrespectful. They could have left the wig on her if that's.
B
I think it is a glue line.
A
Oh, my gosh. Why would y' all do that to her? Let her have her photo.
B
Wait, that is really amazing. Which also. It is crazy that from immediately. From a dead body. Body. She went, where's the glue?
A
She had that in the car. Yeah. She held it up. So she turned the heat on, and she held it up to the.
B
To be. Because this has got to be on my head in the.
A
She said, it's got to be serious. Okay. We have to get to work immediately. She has somewhere to go. She has somewhere to go. What if she had a job interview? Y'. All. Y' all don't know what she had going on.
B
Yeah, but that. That is absolutely. Because you. I can see what hairline she was creating for herself.
A
Yes. And now I want to see the wig, because it could. It was probably laid. She really got the glue on there.
B
Yeah, no, it's. It's freshly peeled.
A
She's still giving main character injury in this photo. She said, I don't need this wig for real. For real. But I want to see the wig on her. So we have a Beyonce fan. At the final stop on the Beyonce Formation world tour in New Jersey, one fan snatched off her wig and handed it to her. Now why would you ever do this to Beyonce? She should have whipped your ass. Julia should have jumped on you. Let's see it.
Beyonce singing all night long.
Okay, Beyonce gave the wig back.
B
Yeah.
A
Cuz that's what a queen does.
B
Well, she slam, like, body slams the wig back to the ground. It is.
A
Okay, so she might not have liked the wig. I think maybe she was trying to tell her, like, you ain't no diva. Get you a new wig. Get it? Plus, she was trying to help her mother was trying to help her. She was like, the reason you snatched this wig off is because this wig is low vibrational.
B
Right? Right.
A
I'm singing to you, and you knew the wig was not worthy of me singing to you, and so you took your wig off.
B
I mean, I love. I really do love this video a lot.
A
And she did it like there's not really a lot of emotion. She's.
B
No, it was like choreography. It was like she planned all night.
Yeah, she. I feel like she knew at, like, some, like, somewhere in her body that she'd be holding someone else's wig during that performance. And she just kind of let it.
A
Take over as she does metaphorically every performance. She's holding wigs all the time. And she did so majestically. She's like, her hair goes back like, what?
B
This thick wig too, looks like a.
A
Tina Turner, but it's not giving me quality the way that it's flying.
Baby girl. So wig snatching in history, all these thieves and fans are unknowingly continuing a long tradition of stealing their hair off someone else's head. So now we're going back to the 1700s. Wigs were really tall and full of ribbons and extra accessories in the royal courts and upper classes of Europe. But wasn't that because they had something stanky going on under their head or something?
B
Shower. This is all pre. They were still eating spice, at least at the time. Now I'm learning.
A
Yeah, they was getting stuff. So the bigger and more complicated your wig was, the higher you ranked socially, plus the easier it was to grab. I knew those big bobbly ass wigs were easy to snatch. Okay. This is kind of cuny, though. Like, this is drag. Like, sir, your wig is in the.
B
Sky and there's a tiny hat on.
A
It, which is so goofy. And I love that. By the mid-1800s. The fashion of having a conspicuously huge hairdo had made human hair worth twice its weight in silver. This led to a series of wig thefts. Surprisingly elaborate and creative robberies involving animals. Long poles young boys hauled on the shoulders of tall men. Cuz you know that wig is all the way up there. Look at these. They. They trained a monkey to snatch a wig.
B
That's crazy. And also the phrasing of long poles. Young boys and animals.
A
Oh, no, no, no, no. We gotta re.
B
Y.
A
It was for wig snatching. It was for wig snatching purposes only. So one successful tactic in England required a boy to ride a butcher's tray carried on the shoulders of a tall man. As the tall imposter butcher walked past a wig wearer who didn't notice that he didn't have no meat on his tray. But it was a little boy. Okay.
So it looked like a piece of meat because I guess they covered him up in a blanket. And that little boy looked like a. Like. Maybe like a pig laid.
B
I think so. Yeah. I'm picturing it. I'm trying to.
A
Yeah, I'm trying to. All these words are not giving me. Sorry.
B
Butcher's tray. Okay. Following.
A
So the boy would then twist the wig off the head of the victim. Then the butcher would take off in the opposite direction, leaving the confused owner clutching at his or his own or her own bald head. So it was literally snatching bald.
B
Damn.
A
Like little boys. This is before. Like, the pickpockets of today.
B
This is before COVID Even.
A
Even. It's crazy.
The original play.
B
Right?
A
This is. Wig thieves also employ dogs. You could get fido and. And have them snatch away.
So one boy would harass a finely dressed bewigged gentleman, and another would grab the hair and toss it to a dog. All three would split up in different alleys and meet up later to celebrate. The dog would link up with the owners afterwards. Like, we hit a L.
B
That's genius. If you can teach a dog how to do like, you deserve the wig at that point, I believe.
A
Yeah.
B
To meet up with you later. That's insane. Work.
A
How much later? Like dog.
B
Like, I'm gonna see y' all next week.
A
The. The dog wears the wig for a little bit and like, okay, I can have it. That's all my already. So y' all can have it. And then also the last one here we have is that traveling back roads was risky as it is now.
B
Right?
A
Back roads.
B
Some things never change. Right?
A
Things never change. A little narrow something. Although I used to think that. And Then I had to retrain my brain because I was like, if I was like a robber, like a creepy criminal, why would I be standing on a, like, sparsely populated walkway waiting for a victim? Like, I'm just gonna be in the alley. Like, somebody gonna come down here soon. I just know it, right? It's kind of dark, but I got my phone, flashlight. It's like, no, you're gonna get me on. You're gonna get me, you know, in the public. Like, what? Robert's like, damn. Nobody came out to the alley today. All right, I'll come back tomorrow.
B
That's. I'm feeling the same. I think we, like, think the same where I just, I. I have also tried to retrain my brain because I'm like, I do think that, like, it's gonna be. They want to get you where you'd least expect them. I think right in an alleyway like that. People are be like, they have their guard up. They're kind of looking around, they're making. They're checking their surroundings. That. So I agree.
A
More likely to run into a shadier person in an alley too, because, like, why they feel so comfortable in the alley. Now, I'm not motivating y' all to go down alley. That's not what I'm saying. But I'm just like, I don't think like somebody, oh, you know, a robber's getting home today. Boo. And it's like, slow day in the alley. Don't want to go down a dark alley no more. It's a recession. Bitches want to walk in under street lights. Like, I don't know if that's happening. So, you know, back alleys, like we were talking about thieves known as. As shiving lays.
B
Okay.
A
These names are so jaunty. I miss a jaunty name. Would lurk behind horse drawn coaches which were forced to roll slowly down narrow and poorly paved streets because they're not trying to fuck up the. The car. And they would slice the back of the carriage with a knife to snatch a wig from the passenger's head. And, and. And we're going to bring it back to present day. To wrap up this episode, we have a video of Queen Olu, a TikTok influencer who had her wig snatched in broad daylight just last year at a.
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Okay.
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In life. They have come to steal my wig from me in broad daylight. Can you imagine? The thing that's irritating me is that they didn't even take the entire week. This part is still remaining. What are you going to do with 34 of a week. Come and tell me, come and tell me. It's just so mad to me cuz I've never ever heard of anybody ever getting a wig ripped off their head before unless they are inside fight. But me, I don't fight. I will shout just on my own, taking my pictures. And they came to come and rip my wig off my head.
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Anyhow, sh.
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If you live in Atlanta, please be careful because apparently, of course, are going around snatching wigs from people.
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I. I shouldn't know. She. She. She had the Nigerian accent, so I thought that maybe she was in Nigeria, but of course she's in Atlanta. And of course, girl, your wig must have been laid. And they were like, I need that.
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It's crazy. I. That. That is so wild. I couldn't imagine that happening.
A
Like, take my wallet, my wig, and then she had to go home with her hair. Y' all see, I'll put on the Instagram, but her hair is, like, braided down. You can see the glue. This will help with the comparison to our other wig queen, but she still has part of the wig hanging off on one side. They didn't stay to steal the whole thing.
B
No, she's right. That would make me even more mean. Mad that I would.
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That.
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That they don't even have the whole thing.
A
So now you just. We all up, right?
B
That's crazy. But a beautiful way to end the episode, I think, you know, y' all.
A
Watch out, especially if you're in Atlanta. That's it. Like Tyler Perry. That's. That's. That's all me is. But Adam, we always ask the end of this podcast, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug, you can.
B
Find me on Instagram. My name is at AD Rip and I have a podcast called Intrusive Thoughts that you can listen to wherever you listen to your podcasts.
A
Yes. And as always, you can follow me at D I V A L A C I D Valacy on all platforms. If you want to see the pictures from this episode. Scam Goddess pod on Instagram. If you want to chat with me, you know where to do that. Yeah, that's. I mean, watch Scam Goddess on Hulu right now. Get my book Scam Goddess. It's available everywhere. Books are sold, including audiobook books. And guys, I'm going on a live show tour, so stay tuned because there will be dates available for y' all to see. Scam got us live very, very soon. Congregation, I want y' all to get out there and stay wiggin.
B
Mm. Stay wiggin Stay wiggin Stay wiggin.
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Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Adam Rippon
Date: December 9, 2025
In this riotously funny episode of Scam Goddess, Laci Mosley welcomes Olympic medalist and all-around icon Adam Rippon to break down the wild, high-priced, and frequently criminal world of luxury wigs. Together, they explore the centuries-old saga of wig snatching—from present-day Atlanta shoplifters to 18th-century pickpocketing with monkey accomplices. Wigs, as the episode reveals, aren’t just for drag and drama—they’re big business, big scams, and even bigger punchlines.
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This episode perfectly captures everything fans love about Scam Goddess: witty cultural analysis, hilarious true scam stories, and lively, chemistry-rich banter. From luxury wig drama and DIY hacks to centuries-old scalp snatching, Laci and Adam turn “true con” into a comedy art form. As always, Laci leaves listeners with the invaluable motto: Stay schemin’ and stay wiggin’!