
In this week’s Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Emmy-nominated comedian and actress Nicole Byer (Why Won't You Date Me?) to discuss the fake Irish heiress who scammed her way into a pot of gold worth around ninety thousand dollars. Plus, it turns out, you can drive a brand new car off the lot if you print a fake check. Stay Schemin’! (Originally released 09/14/2020) CON-gregation, keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at ScamGoddessPod@gmail.com. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Nicole Byer: @nicolebyer Research by Sharilyn Vera
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Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
What's poppin Congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the Paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the Paywall. And as always, stay scheming. Scams, cons, robbery and fraud. Scams, robbery and fraud. What's poppin Congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And guys, I'm so. I always say, what do we say? Say it with me. I'm so excited for today's guest, but for real, y', all, okay? This is the first time that we've had a repeat guest. The one, the only, I think for the whole season, this will be the only repeat guest. Guys, she is the Emmy nominated hilarious queen, one of the amazing hosts of Nailed it. You love her podcast. Why won't you date me? You love her podcast. Best friends. You love her and everything that you freaking see. This is Nicole Byer, guys. What's up, Nicole?
Nicole Byer
Lacey, What a beautiful intro. And I love that you tell people to say things with you because I would love to see someone like in their car just being like, just talking with you, feeling themselves. I love it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Right? I feel like, especially now, podcasts are like you're just kind of talking to yourself. So I want you to feel like I'm talking back. Like what did y' all say? Y' all so crazy. See, we just had a moment, so y' all get to keep that. Well, we've talked about scams, Nicole, and your relationship with scams, and.
Nicole Byer
Yes, yes, yes.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I remember you telling me that you've. You've fallen for some scams, right?
Nicole Byer
Have I fallen? I don't know if I fall. I scammed. We talked about me scamming my dad.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Okay, yeah, we did talk about you scamming your dad. I thought there was a scam that you fell for. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was wrong.
Nicole Byer
Maybe I don't remember. And I'm trying to rack my brain. I mean, I just bought a shitty bike from a shitty company, and I think that was a scam. Bikeberry.com I got very drunk and was googling bikes, and, you know, they paid for those ads to pop up first. So I clicked on that paid for ad. I found this purple bike that, like, said it was a cruiser. But then I got it. There was a hole in it. So then I took a picture. There was a hole in the box. And I sent that picture to the company. And they were like, oh, well, the thing that's poking through the box was there just in case there was damage to the box during shipping. I said, well, I don't know if I really want to open the bike and, like, figure out other stuff wrong with it. And they were like, all right. And, you know, bad on me for not reading the return policy where it's like, you pay for the ship and back. I don't know how much shipping is for a fucking bike on myself.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Is it a lot?
Nicole Byer
It's probably. Probably. It's a heavy. It's like 70 or. I don't know, not £70, £60, £40. I don't know. And then you pay, like, a 15% restocking fee. And I was like, so I'm still going to be out, like, 50, 60, maybe $80 on this $200 bike. I might as well just put it together. Put it together? This thing is so fucking janky. Like, the gears just twist around. And I didn't put it together. I can't do that shit. I had a man put it together.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Did you put it together? I was about to be like, okay, Nicole, this is.
Nicole Byer
I was not expecting that.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That was the scam right there. You put the bike together, had a
Nicole Byer
man put it together, and he was like. He followed the directions to a T, and we could, like, the gears just spin. It is such a shitty bike. So Then I post about how shitty it was, and they're like, well, we started a return for you. And I was like, yeah, but I also told you I was going to open it and see how it was. And I opened it, and this is a piece of shit bike. I'm very entitled to that opinion. And I'm like, so now you want me to disassemble it, but this fudgeing, shitty ass bike back in the box? You want me to pay 15%? No, I'm just gonna donate it. Jacob Wazaki was like, you should donate it. And I was like, oh, yeah, someone might be able to use the frame because the frame isn't bad. The wheels are bad, the handles are bad.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I thought you were saying you were gonna donate it to a place where it was, like, gonna be some little kid riding this janky ass bike. I was like, nicole, right? Imagine I donated to, like, kids in
Nicole Byer
need of bikes, and then they die on this bikeberry.com bike.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Also, I feel like a bike is something that most people buy in person. Am I crazy? I feel like this is very ambitious of you to, like, buy a. Not a do it yourself bike.
Nicole Byer
I know, I know. It was very ambitious. I thought I was getting a good deal, but you get what you pay for. John was like, my roommate was like, yeah, you have to go sit on the bike and see it in person. I said, okay, all right, I give up. I'll go sit on a bike another day.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I think that's the right choice. Cause look, I won't even do a sourdough starter, so. You are very brave. You are very brave to buy a whole bike in a box. It's my bike in a box. It's a bike in a box. Oh, goodness. Let's get into what's hot and fraud. I need a name, Nicole, for this person.
Nicole Byer
Mm.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
This person probably identifies as a woman, but I don't care. It can be any name you want in the world.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I love that you're really giving this a lot of thought.
Nicole Byer
Okay? You just. Just a name.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Just a name for a person.
Nicole Byer
Okay, let's call her Teresa. What a basic name.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
You did all that thinking all that time. Teresa.
Nicole Byer
And I came up with Teresa. No, she'll shoot. Shamika. That's my cousin's name. Shamika.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Shamika. I like. I know some Shamikas. They're nice. Most of them. They can fight. Can your cousin fight? Does she look like she can fight?
Nicole Byer
I think Shamika could take you on. On a fight. She's tall.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Oh, okay.
Nicole Byer
She's a tall woman.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I've never met a Shamika that couldn't fight. So that's just something they're skilled at. Okay. There's nothing wrong with that. So Shamika says, I did this scam a decade ago when I was a young, broke adult, and it worked out well at the time. Okay, she says, in my state. Home state of Montana, Shamika, okay, Shemeka is definitely white. I just looked at the Google photo. Shamika said, also, she said, my home state of Montana. And that made me shoot my eyes back up to the photo, because I was like, are there. Is there a black in Montana?
Nicole Byer
I went to Billings, Montana, once. And to get to Billings, Montana, I think I flew to whatever their capital is or whatever their big city is and then got on the tiniest plane to get to Billings. And the black flight attendant looked at me as I got on the plane and said, honey, you going to the right place? And I was like, well, she's asking. I don't know. Then I got there, and I was like, now I know why she was. She was worried about.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She started smiling and blinking, and the tear came out her eye. Yes. She was like, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. She was.
Nicole Byer
No, no, no. Get. Get off the plane. Get out.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I feel like you went to one of those towns where, like, they have a population sign and then it, like, goes up when you get there.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, it goes right back down. When I left the next day.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Were you there for work or something? Why were you?
Nicole Byer
Okay, I was doing a show at a college. College shows have truly taken me to the wildest, most racist, smallest towns I've ever been to.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And it's funny because they hired you. Correct. Now, you are very funny, and you're very talented and very beautiful, Nicole. But part of me wonders if they hired you, because they're like, this is our one chance to lay eyes on a black person. We're gonna have to pay them, but they will come here.
Nicole Byer
Well, a lot of campuses are pretty liberal. Like, you'll be smack dab in the middle of, like, Confederate flag country. Like, I was in Arizona, got off the plane, tons of Trump flags. This is in 2015. And, like, you know, Confederate flags. I saw, like, a peep of a swastika somewhere and then got to the campus, and it was like, hippie, dippy people with, like, neon hair. And I was like, what the fuck did I do? It's so. It's like, once you cross over into the college, they're like, higher learning. We're inclusive. We want to love everybody, so. But also, maybe it is just to see a black one one time.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I'm sure it was because you're very funny. But also, I'm sure afterwards they were like, wow, that's what it's like, guys, a black person.
Nicole Byer
Oh, my God. Did you do meet and greets, black or in person? Yeah, I usually do meet and greets.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Oh, so they got to talk to you?
Nicole Byer
They did. They did. And one college, a woman gave me lotion, and I was like, is this a dig? I was like, am I? I guess I'm notoriously ashy. I always post pictures and I look so ashy. And it was a white lady. And I was like, oh, no. If they know.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
No, not if they know. Look, white people don't know about ashiness. They don't know about it. But I will say that Jacqu Keith says that it's racist when people don't have lotion in the bathroom. Cause black people need lotion after they wash their hands. So maybe. Maybe she was just trying to help you out.
Nicole Byer
Maybe. Maybe she was. She was like, there is no lotion in Billings, Montana. Not one Walmart carries a single drop of lotion. They're like, we don't need it, so I'll do you a favor. But white people do need lotion.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
They do, but they don't know that they need it. Oh, you know what? Now is your chance, y'. All. Lotion. Everybody needs it.
Nicole Byer
Yes, everybody needs it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Wait, here's the indic. Okay, I think this is gonna be indicative. If she was being shady, was it like a fragrant, like a nice lotion, or did she give you some Jergens?
Nicole Byer
No, it was actually very nice lotion. I cannot say the name of the company I've been laughed at before. Luctane. L'.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Occitane.
Nicole Byer
Oh, my God. Yep.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
No, no, no, no. Listen. I didn't know either. I had a boyfriend in college, and he spoke fluent French. And one time I was like, oh, I love.
Nicole Byer
And he was like.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I was like, oh, l'.
Nicole Byer
Occitane. That's so. I'll never remember that name.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
L'.
Nicole Byer
Occitane. What a treat. L'. Occitane.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
It really rolls off your tongue, though. You're giving me face.
Nicole Byer
It does if you can remember it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Well, no, that she was trying to flex. She would have got you some good lotion, I think. That wasn't shade. That wasn't shade.
Nicole Byer
Okay. She was being nice.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
All right, so back to Shamika, who's definitely white. She says, in my state of Montana, we have a quit line you can call for free. Free anti smoking items like gum and patches. I took it upon myself to call the quit line and have the short conversation about my smoking habits. They agreed to send me the patches and every two weeks I need to have a 15 minute conversation with them to check in on how I'm doing. That's interesting to me because it's like, if people want to quit, then why do I need to like they're like, okay, yeah, you want to quit. So how was this week? How many cigarettes did you have? How much, like how much tobacco did you lick on? Like, what is this conversation lick on?
Nicole Byer
Well, quitting is very hard. I've tried to quit smoking no less than four times, 10 times, 100 times, and it's hard.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I will say that I was never into smoking cigarettes, but for a four month period I was juuling like I was a 15 year old.
Nicole Byer
Well, yeah, you just puff on them inside. It was, that's so wild that you weren't a smoker but you were like, but Jewel, I'll do that because you
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
know, we do comedy and we'll be outside of bars and afterwards and you know, you have a few drinks and then people would be like, Julian. And I'd be like, and sometimes back in the day I would like bum a cigarette. So it wasn't like a big deal to like, you know, do that. So I was like, oh, Jewel. Then I was like, oh, it's not sanitary to just like puff someone else's Jewel. I'll just go grab my own for whenever. And then I woke up and Nicole, I kid you not, juul pods everywhere, like fucking chargers everywhere. And I didn't know when I had become this person. I had a juul charger in my car so I could, so I could plug it in my car and keep the juul charged all day. I had no idea that I was so ridiculously addicted to it.
Nicole Byer
So the commercials are real. When there's a team that's like, it started with one puff and next thing I knew my life revolved around Jewel.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I was sucking dick for Jewel. Like,
Nicole Byer
you know, that's when times is rough when you are sucking dick for a cigarette or a Jewel.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Look, they're not cheap either and those pods are not cheap.
Nicole Byer
How much are those pods?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Those pods depending on what store you're going to, some stores will really rip you off and they'll be like 35 for a four pack.
Nicole Byer
Damn.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And then some places it's 27 for a four pack.
Nicole Byer
Damn. You know, I miss the days where you could share a cigarette with a friend or drink after a friend. Never again. Never again. We was fucking nasty. Like, you know, like, now that I think about it, like, I kinda like wearing a mask. Especially, like working. Cause, like, people get so close to you, to mic you, and now it's so nice that, like, we're not breathing on each other.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I think it's great. I also think it's a wake up call to people who had hot ass breath. And we can never tell people that they breath hot. Like, can we normalize telling people that they breath is hot as fuck? Cause there's people singeing my eyelashes off and now I know they gotta smell that. They gotta have it burn their own nostrils.
Nicole Byer
Just right back up in there. I was at a protest and I was like, oh, no, I think I have bad breath. And then so she was like, did you. When's the last time you washed your mask? And I was like, wash? But now I'm in it. I'm in the game. I realize it's like clothing. You got to wash it every couple days. So I'm in it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yes. I've had. I've had to go out with a funky mask once or twice and I was like, this is fucking torture. Just.
Nicole Byer
It's awful. Yes.
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Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
But yeah, so. Oh my God. I've never admitted. Am I gonna. Maybe I'll cut that out about the juul thing. I don't know if I'm ready to tell you guys that I was doing that, but I was. I was. I guess I'll be honest.
Nicole Byer
I mean, you don't have to be. Don't do juul if you don't want the information out there. I rarely talk about smoking because people look down on you so much and they're like, just quit.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
It's not good.
Nicole Byer
And I'm like, you don't think I know we're in a pandemic and I'm hiding in my house because I'm more susceptible to like, I have bad lungs. I know. I know what I've been doing, right?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And it's like. And people that's. But maybe this will be a cautionary tale for someone out there. Guys, don't drool. Don't drool. It's bad.
Nicole Byer
Don't juul. Don't start.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Don't start. No, for real, don't start.
Nicole Byer
It's like I had to learn how to smoke. I'm not an inherent smoker. So I would like sit in my garage and like inhale and then cough, and then slowly inhale halfway. Hold the other half of my mouth. It was, why? For what? And now it's, you know, $20 every couple days just so I can get my little fix. It's. It's a thank you. Big Tobacco.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's a scam, right? Oh, the biggest. One of the biggest. It's crazy that Big Tobacco also pays for all the ads that warn you about cigarettes, because that's like, do this. That's like, their rule. Like, their thing with the government is like Philip Morris. Like, they have to pay for those ads.
Nicole Byer
They pay for the truth.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yes. With the little black kids. Like, I would never smoke because I can't let my hood down. And now we about to dance and play basketball. Why are those commercials like that?
Nicole Byer
That is. I mean, yeah, black commercials. Sometimes I'm like, who did this? Was it a black person? Or is this a white person projecting what they think black culture is?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
If you want to see a TV show where you can very much tell where everyone on it was white who was writing for the black people, I highly recommend in the Dark. I think that's what it's called on Netflix. That's the show about the blind woman who becomes a detective. That don't even sound right.
Nicole Byer
But I'm not being ableist. But maybe I am being ableist. I feel like that would be just
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
a real uphill battle. It is. And that's why the show's fun to watch. Cause you're watching her, like, she's impressive, but then she saw the murder of her little black friend who saved her once from a mugging. But he's a drug dealer. But, like, he's clearly a British actor, and the whole thing is written by white people. You can just tell that they'd never heard of drug dealers before. They probably watched the Wire a little bit and were like, I can do that.
Nicole Byer
I once did a McDonald's commercial where McDonald's, you know, props to them. They have a whole website for black people. It's called McDonald's 365. And they. And it's like they talk about black history all year round. But I.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's how, you know, because they know
Nicole Byer
their customer, you know? But I did this voiceover. It was me and two or three other black women. And I don't remember if I had auditioned for it, but they were like, all right, let's go for it. And my line was, don't steal my French fries. So I said, don't steal my French fries. And they were like, can you. And then I was like, sass it up. And then the other women laughed and I was like, don't steal my French fries. And then the other women sounded just like me. And they were like, girl, that's my coke. I'm gonna dip it in the french
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
fry, yo, poppity, poppity.
Nicole Byer
Then after all three of us did it like that, the whoever, I guess it was whoever, like the producers or whatever, the buyers were like, okay, let's just go back to your normal voices. And I was like, point made. I like, I love that we made that point. Because it was like, if you want a minstrel show, that's what you can have, right? Or you can have like just three black women talking. It was why I am going to
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
take that with me because that is an excellent way to not. Who's also like, why are the lines like, y' all getting robbed? Like, why? And you bet don't speak. Cause I know you like to steal. Y' all know how Y' all be like, what? Why are y' all getting robbed?
Nicole Byer
In this commercial, Sasheer has a pretty good joke about it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I can't remember.
Nicole Byer
It was like the black blinds to go where it was like, you can't see in my house. It was based on a commercial. And then I have a joke about McDonald's and how, my God, sometimes they're just like, my baby daddy took me to get a McRib. And I was like, they both back. And you're like, what the.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
They both back. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I have to go home. And I'm at home. So, guys, what a wild tangent. But to wrap up Shamika White Shamika's letter.
Nicole Byer
Uh huh.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
White Shamika says after she would have her conversations where she talked about how hard it was and actually we just talked about how hard it is. And so I understand these conversations now. She said, I received all three stages of patches. Not sure how many in total, but as soon as I got them, I put them up for sale on ebay and I had no problem selling them for 30 and 40 dollars a box. I know I made a few hundred dollars doing this and eventually I just ignored their calls and quit getting the patches. I'm terrible. Signed Shamika. Just in case you forgot what we were talking about when we went on these tangents, Shamika.
Nicole Byer
Truly I did.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Shamika maybe never smoked cigarettes. Or if she did, she didn't quit or she just called the quit line, got the very expensive free quitting materials, and then she went to eBay and she slanged them.
Nicole Byer
You know, I don't knock the hustle. I really don't.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Shamika. I fucks with you. Like, I think. Come on in Montana.
Nicole Byer
Yes. Get it. Shamika. I think Shamika's an entrepreneur.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yes. She's a. What do they call it when you're a woman entrepreneur? A hertrepreneur. I thought we had a word for that.
Nicole Byer
Do we?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Where we just put her in it or something?
Nicole Byer
A hertrepreneur.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She tripreneur.
Nicole Byer
Hertrepreneur. Truly sounds like something wrong with, like, a herniated disc.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Oh, I hertrepreneur'd my disc.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yeah, you're right. It's not very motivating.
Nicole Byer
We don't.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
We don't need that one. So this is my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks, where I will regale Emmy nominated Nicole Byer with. I just have to sprinkle it in, like, seasoning a little bit.
Nicole Byer
Cause, honestly, it truly is such a wild thing. Who would have thought?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I would have.
Nicole Byer
Who would have thought?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
You're a black queen. I love it. So I'm gonna regale her with the historic hoodwink, and we're just gonna get her thoughts and opinions along the way. Today we're talking about a man named Jonathan Walton, a producer on American Ninja Warrior. That's that show where the athletic people hurt themselves.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And they do an obstacle course. So you watch it hoping that they fall.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So he was conned out of nearly $90,000 by his best friend. Gonna put that in quotes. Mayor Smythe. Mayor claimed to be a royal Irish heiress waiting to inherit 5 million euros.
Nicole Byer
So wait a minute.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Irish actresses.
Nicole Byer
If I ever met somebody. If I ever met somebody who was like, just so you know, I'm an heiress, and I'm gonna inherit $5 million, I'd be like, so you good with money? I don't have to give you shit.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Right?
Nicole Byer
You good. You about to get it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
But I'm about to get it, though, girl. Like, I just need the taxes and fees.
Nicole Byer
No, don't worry about it. You can pay for all that once you get your inheritance.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So I'm gonna tell you some things that are gonna make more sense as to why maybe this worked on him. Okay, so the first time that Jonathan, who was 45, met this woman who became his best friend and turned into his worst enemy, obviously she was offering buildings, pool. So Walton lived in a Bunker Hill apartment complex in downtown Los Angeles. Where is Bunker Hill?
Nicole Byer
Yeah, I don't know where Bunker Hill Is.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
But it says downtown la. I don't live down there. So it says they lost access to their stunning pool amid a dispute with another building. These are champagne problems. They were like, we lost the pool also. What do you mean a dispute with another building? Y' all was fighting that building. I really want to imagine people punching brick, but I know that's not what's happening, so.
Nicole Byer
No, not at all.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
When Walton, an earnest and animated former news reporter, held a meeting about the incident in his living room, about 30 people showed up. Cause they're trying to get the pool back, guys.
Nicole Byer
I guess.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So that meeting is where he met 40 something year old woman with jet black hair in a pixie cut. Ooh. She's a manic pixie dream girl. And who soon took charge of the conversation. She was dressed in pastel colored clothes, shoes. That looks high end. And she spoke with the slightest trace of an accent, which I'm assuming is an Irish accent, which is a hard accent to do.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. To do just like a trace of. I would think it's harder than just fully getting into it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
You like your charms?
Nicole Byer
I only think so. Listen, I want the pool to come back. I don't.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Whoop. That was bad. No, that was really good. That was better than anything I could do. I. I literally went to they're magically delicious.
Nicole Byer
Like, I could have never done this. They stole me like a charms and took away my pool.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Well, this worked also. I feel like he must have equated her just casually wearing pastels as someone who's like, rich. I'm trying to think. I don't see a lot of people just like, unless you're at Coachella, you don't just see people who are walking around in full pastel, not like head
Nicole Byer
to toe in pastel. But now I'm thinking about maybe I gotta get more pastel in my life.
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Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Is that how I show people I'm a real fancy hoe?
Nicole Byer
Is like, I got money, I'm wearing lavender.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Maybe Because I really don't see it that often. So she said during her conversation where she had taken over that she was a luxury travel agent and her boyfriend was a prominent real est estate lawyer. She said that she had sued their own apartment complex a couple of times and won. Oh, have you ever needed to sue your apartment? Compliment. You live in a house, but when you lived in an apartment, did you need to sue them?
Nicole Byer
No, no, no, no, no. Although my landlord. Oh, maybe I talked about this last time. My landlord was running a scam, so he was like, you can give me or the super your rent. And then a couple years down the line, there was a note on the building that was like, do not let Louis in the building. He was embezzling money. And then in the paper, we were like, oh, shit. Yeah, he was like, embezzling money and send his kids to private school. Which I was like, you know, that's nice, right?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's a nice thing. Let's do it for the children.
Nicole Byer
You know, that's nice.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Also, we need to teach the children. Let them lead the way.
Nicole Byer
Yes, but no. I've never had to sue my apart. I don't pay rent. I never paid rent on time. This is the first time in my life where I've paid my living expenses on time because it comes out of my bank account.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Oh, right, because it's like auto withdraw. Yeah, I'm childish. I won't do that. And I know that it could withdraw forever and I'd probably be fine, but I. Every month I just get the email and I beg, begrudgingly go over there and like, hit the payment button. And I don't know why I do it. I think I get, like, high from it sometimes. I'll wait because I only get till the third. I don't even get till the fifth before you get a late fee. So I'm like, you only get to the third? The third girl. They don't play my apartment in New
Nicole Byer
York, when I finally moved out, I would also never pay rent on time. I would pay like three months at a time after the three months. And then when I finally moved out, they were like, your last month of rent is due. And I was like, that's why you have security. And they're like, no, the security's covering all your late fees. And I was like, I don't live here no more. So I. This is beautiful.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
You really are a scammer, Nicole. She was like, that's why you got that deposit. Bye, bye, bye. So she's very charismatic. She's bantering with the neighbors. She sued the building a bunch of times. I imagine her going to, like, Judge Joe Brown suing the apartment building. I hope that's where it happens. And her story is that she, in time, would also mention that she was pals with Ashley Judd and show him a closet full of allegedly thousand dollar designer shoes and share that she had a psychic gift. Now, I know what you're thinking. If you met somebody and they were like, hey, I be selling my apartment building every other Thursday. I own Thousand Dollar Shoes. Ashley Judd is my homegirl. And also I'm a psychic. Like, if you heard all of that at one time, you would be like, bitch, what's going on?
Nicole Byer
I would be like, I should stay away from this fucking person. This is too much.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
But they were friends for four years before she scammed him.
Nicole Byer
Honestly. Bravo. This is bravo. What a long time, right?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I was very impressed. So I get how over the years, if you're having casual conversation, like, my homegirl would be like, girl, you know, I'm a brujah. And I wouldn't think that's crazy. I was like, yeah, you a brujah. But I've known her for years. I was like, sure, you're a brujah. She hasn't asked me for $90,000 yet, but beware, right? But she has shown me some nice clothes, she is friends with some famous people, and she's a brujah. So technically, I already know somebody like this. I'm just saying she worked it in a way. I was like, all seems legit, seems normal. So she unwound her story over many, many meetings, like we were just talking about. And later on, in a visit to her apartment, Walton glimpsed at a small frame printed on what Smith said was the Constitution of Ireland. So it's. Her last name is Smith. So he looked at this frame and then he was like, what is this? And he was like, oh, this. The constitution of Ireland. You know, casual, hanging in my living room. She said that her great uncle had signed it, she explained, pointing out his signature. Later, she said that the same great uncle had just died and stood to inherit. She stood inherit part of his 25 million dollar euro, or excuse me, million euro inheritance, which is about $27.5 million. So in keeping with her image as a wealthy and worldly heiress, she occasionally showed Walton texts and emails from her friends, like Ashley Judd, whom she had met in college. Ashley, I'm so sorry.
Nicole Byer
Why did you. Yeah, truly that her name is dragged all over this.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Also, like, is she like, relabeling somebody's number in her phone? Ashley Judd and texting her?
Nicole Byer
Probably, probably. But also, what a wild person to pick. No shade to Ashley Judd, but she's not. Well, I guess. Honestly, what a smart pick. Because she's not super famous. But, like, we all know Ashley Judd's name.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Well, didn't Harvey Weinstein ruin her career? I think that's what Ashley Judd. Poor Ashley Judd. Girl, I could be absolutely wrong about that. Let me say allegedly.
Nicole Byer
Allegedly.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And by allegedly, I mean I thought that. But Last time I came on here and I said that Michael Jackson song at the end where they go, mama say masah mama goosa. I was like, it's actually words, guys. It means I'm gonna keep going. I'm not gonna step, I'm gonna keep going. And I definitely told everybody that was true. And they're like, no, it's not.
Nicole Byer
That is. I love that you just up on here lying to people. People be telling their friends facts that they learned from Lacey and then they're like, girl, that's not it. That's not. No, she lying to you.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Look, the scam facts are true, guys, we researched, I swear. But anything that I say off the cuff could be a lie.
Nicole Byer
Uh huh.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
But it's not a lie if I believe it. Remember, that's how the truth works. I taught y' all that.
Nicole Byer
That's what I honestly believe.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So due to her family's money, she said that she didn't need a job, but preferred to keep busy working for luxury tour operators.
Nicole Byer
Sure.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
PacificIslands.com and later as a psychic. In the time Walton knew her, she also had several plastic surgeries, including what he recalls as a nose job, a breast enhancement and some liposuction. So she's an LA girl?
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She getting it. Reading tarot.
Nicole Byer
Getting that waist snatched? Yes.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Getting lip fillers.
Nicole Byer
Huh?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yeah. As you do.
Nicole Byer
She's. She's a housewife. I love it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Not mad at all. So they are have this really close friendship. He opens up to her her about his family and about his sexuality and how some people didn't expect accept him. She understood how painful alienation from family members could be. She said, revealing that her cousins were trying to get her disinherited the drama. So she showed him nasty texts and emails from these cousins, especially one named Fenton, who occasionally wrote in Gaelic. Walton was enthralled with the family drama. So she basically was like, I wouldn't be surprised if this was like all the plot of several Tyler Perry movies that she has seen.
Nicole Byer
She just put some Irish, I'm gonna do my own. I mean, Tyler doesn't take too much time to produce them. I think she took more time to produce a Tyler Perry movie than Tyler takes to produce his own.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
To produce these emails, you might be right.
Nicole Byer
And I'm not being shady because he is very quickly, he shoots seasons in the matter of weeks and he does, which is wild.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And I know actors who work for him and they work very hard. I was like, shout out to y',
Nicole Byer
all, cuz long days, long days long
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
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Nicole Byer
wigs wigs wigs on wigs on wigs
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
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Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So basically she moves to a new loft and they call each other all the time, tell each other that they love each other. So now let's get into her inheritance. By April 2015, homegirl had come to Walton with tears cascading down her face asking for a loan. So the first loan that she got was for $4,200. Then she came back and said she needed another $5,800 to pay rent at her new loft. Which is crazy because she had an inheritance, right?
Nicole Byer
Yes. And she's a psychic, so she didn't see it coming. She didn't move before she couldn't afford to pay it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She did not move before she could afford to pay it.
Nicole Byer
You gotta get out.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She said that her great uncle's will contained a clause stating that anyone with a convicted felony would be exempt from the will. Walton voices fears that Smith's cousins might frame her to push her out of the will. So this is why. So in 2014, Walton's speculation seemed to come true. He received a collect call from a detention facility that Smith had been arrested on charges that she had stolen about $200,000 from pacificislands.com which is the travel agency that she works for. So she basically sold this as like, my cousins are setting me up. That call that you got from jail, that's Fenton in them. Was it in Gaelic?
Nicole Byer
I mean, this is exhaust. Honestly, the amount of work she put in, she could have just gotten herself a job.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
This was.
Nicole Byer
This is work. This is work.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's the thing about scamming. People think scamming is not work. Scamming isn't employment, it's a profession. I'm honestly upset that scammers can't get unemployment right now because they have been self employed and you know, that's something we need to work on. Yeah, they want, they need they stimulus too.
Nicole Byer
We need a scam stimulus for robbery.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Okay, how you gonna be doing robbery when everybody in they house?
Nicole Byer
Truly, I was just thinking that the other day. I was like, how do you rob a house if everybody's home?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So just like hairdressers can't do hair in person. Robbers can't do their normal robberies in person.
Nicole Byer
They can't rob in person.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Exactly. So everybody's really hurting right now. So I feel for her, I feel for myself.
Nicole Byer
I really do.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So cut back to, she's crying to him like, I need this money. I gotta go down to the attorney's office because they done froze my bank accounts. The LA district attorney froze my coins up. Cause they think that I did this robbery at this job that I definitely worked at. But really it was my cousins who had set me up. But for some reason the jail called you. But really it was my cousins who had put me in jail from Ireland. This makes sense.
Nicole Byer
I mean, the fact that he fell for that is so wild.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She was throwing a lot at him at once. It was probably a lot to process. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Nicole Byer
And he's like, but that's my pastel friend.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Right? And he came out to her about his lifestyle. Like she Accepted him. So they had an emotional relations relationship, so it makes sense. So he wrote her a cashier's check, which. Those are the checks that go.
Nicole Byer
That's money.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's liquid. So he agreed that she said when she regained access to her bank account or received her inheritance, she would pay him back. In the meantime, she moved back into Bunker Hill Towers for a relatively cheaper rent. With the case still ongoing, she asked him for another $3,800 the next month for rent over the year. As it passed on and dragged on with Walton receiving frequent updates, she was still asking him for money. So in September 2016, she finally came and just really got the bag. She said that, hey, they're gonna give me a plea agreement for this money that I didn't steal from my job, that my definitely my cousins have framed me from a different country. Great plea agreement. I'm getting $50,000 and serve jail time, but I'm gonna need $50,000 from you.
Nicole Byer
And this man gave her $50,000.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
He forked over nearly $60,000. Yeah. And he also loaned her $2,000 for the lawyer to help her avoid eviction, because then she wasn't paying rent.
Nicole Byer
Then what was she spending the money on? This man needed to ask questions. I would be like, what?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
How? No, he didn't ask a single question.
Nicole Byer
Also, he just had $60,000 laying around. This man is a smart man to have that much cash.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Well, he worked in tv, so, you know, he might have been getting the checks.
Nicole Byer
I mean, damn.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
And he believed her. He believed that she was going to repay him. But one day during her February 2017 sentence, when Walton logged onto the jail's website to schedule a visit, he clicked on her profile at the LA County Sheriff's website, and he noticed something strange. She had been charged and convicted with a felony, so she was trying to avoid eviction. She eventually did have to go to jail. And then when he was going to go see her, probably put some money on her books for some ramen noodles and stuff.
Nicole Byer
Mm.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
He looked, and they were like, yeah, she was convicted of a felony. Felony. Like, she was doing crime. Crime. So he took a day off work, traveled to the airport courthouse near LAX to draw up the records on her case. When he started looking through the records, he realized that everything that she told him was, say it with me, guys, a lie. The plea agreement meant that she had pleaded guilty, that her bank accounts had never been frozen. They weren't frozen. They just were empty.
Nicole Byer
Empty.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I'm gonna start telling people my bank account frozen. If it ain't no money in there. It basically is. The bank won't let me make transfers anymore because they said it's no money in there. So they stopped. They froze my transfers.
Nicole Byer
They froze it. So if you wanna, you know, PayPal me some. You want to Venmo me something so I can get my transfers back up? That's. My God.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's excellent wording. If you want to Venmo me money so I can get my transfers back up. That's the phrasing. That is excellent phrasing for I don't have no money. Send me money so I can start spending money again. That's amazing. So her plea agreement was for $40,000, not 50. And it included 180 day jail sentence, later reduced to 30 days. Oh, God. So basically, she skimmed him. She, like, upped. She was like, I need $50,000 so I can get this time served. Then she just kept a little 10 so she could get her transfers back up. She was like, some for the court,
Nicole Byer
some for me, some for me.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
On the day of the release, he picked her up, which I'm like, bro, why are you even still fucking with her?
Nicole Byer
Yeah, why are you still involved?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Because I think he was trying to get his money back. So he was like, you've been lying to me this entire time about everything. The next day, he filed a police report alleging a total theft of $75,000. Right. So Walton's landlord shared that homegirl also was $12,000 behind in apartment payments and had delayed them further because she said she had cancer and that her disability insurance wasn't arriving on time. She was running off. She. My God, where was the money for rent going? Because, remember, he. He helped her with an eviction lawyer, quote, unquote, $2,000.
Nicole Byer
Well, that's how she had that expensive shoes and shit. She was just buying stuff.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She just can't buy shoes.
Nicole Byer
She's funny.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I love her. They were like, ma', am, we're gonna put you in the street. She was like, okay, but I really need these lubitins. Also, my cancer hurts right now, so.
Nicole Byer
My cancer hurts so bad, I better go buy a shoe. That's the cure.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yeah, I can't actually talk about this right now. Cause, ooh, that was my cancer. Okay, so I'm gonna close the door now.
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Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Bye. So background checks revealed that she'd also been charged with writing bad checks, fraud in Tennessee, in Florida, grand theft, among other counts. She was also doing San Andreas.
Nicole Byer
I love her.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Yes. And then the jury found that Smith was Guilty of grand theft and sentenced her to five years in jail. So this is on top of the 180 days that she got from robbing her her former employment. She did end up having to go to jail for robbing her homeboy. And man, there's a lot to unpack there that we just don't have time to unpack. You guys unpack it in your cars, wherever you are. But this Irish woman is a queen.
Nicole Byer
I love her.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
She was so sweet. That's it.
Nicole Byer
That's like over the course of four years you stole $80,000. That's pretty good. That's 20 a year. That's nice. Tax free. That is $20,000 a year. That's like pretty decent. And I'm sure that's not the only scam she was running on people.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Oh, obviously not. She had the cancer rent scam, she had grand theft. She had like her whole life was a grift.
Nicole Byer
She doing it, she doing big things.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So for scammer of the week, we just want to highlight a king, a Floridian, a Florida man. You know, if you really just want trash, if you really just went, I can say that I lived in Florida, know, it's okay for me to say that. A Florida man bought a hundred forty thousand dollar Porsche with a check that he printed from home on his computer. I don't even know how people think of stuff like this.
Nicole Byer
But also the dealership was like, ah, looks right? What?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
How?
Nicole Byer
What look?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Times are hard. They trying to sell these Porsches. They say, anybody want to come in here?
Nicole Byer
I guess so.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
42 year old Kate Casey William Kelly. I love that he has three first names. That's what I'm talking about. Robbery. Was charged with a grand theft of a motor vehicle and uttering a false banknote. According to the Walton County Sheriff's office, he allegedly handed over a cashier's check that he printed from his home computer to buy the car. The car was later reported stolen to Okaloosa County Sheriff office. So he. So also we just talked about in the last story, like you do a cashier's check that's as good as cash pretty much if it looks.
Nicole Byer
Looks real, if it looks legit.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
So this is what he did. Shortly after purchasing the German luxury car, authorities say that Kelly then attempted to buy three Rolex watches. He was gonna let it ride. He said, where my printer at? Get the inkjet. I've been.
Nicole Byer
That's so funny. That is so fucking funny.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
He handed over a fraudulent check for $61,000 to a jeweler. However, the jeweler kept the watches until they could determine if the check would clear. See, because jewelry, you know, obviously he's a white man. People don't.
Nicole Byer
With jewelry because jewelry goes up in value sometimes.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Right?
Nicole Byer
So like, like a vintage Rolex. Those go for like a. Like a ton of cash. So.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Right.
Nicole Byer
Smart on them. But also with the car, I would have done a lease. I would have given them a fake address. I would have done. I mean, you probably had to put some money down. So you get the fraudulent check for that, give them a dummy address, and then never park the car near your house and be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
That's a good one. Because then it's also, like, they might contact you. Like, oh, this check didn't go through. But you. We got this lease set up. We got all your info. And then you could drive it around for longer. He just straight up, like, stealing it.
Nicole Byer
Okay, now I have the perfect plan. Okay, so we get a fake driver's license with your picture. Different name, different address. Because I don't think they do any sort of background check checks. So if you can make fraudulent checks, write that check for the down payment on the lease. How will they get to you?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
They can't.
Nicole Byer
They can't find you. And then the bank is on the hook because when you lease a car, the bank buys the car, you pay the bank. So you are literally out of it.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Everyone go out there and print your cashier's check. Emmy nominated Nicole Byer has taught you how to do this scam. That was her TED Talk. It was free for you and for me. I just. I think also the jeweler probably caught on because jewelers deal with criminals all the time. Like, criminals love jewelry. Like, that's their go to.
Nicole Byer
And you're buying three Rolexes for what?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
For what?
Nicole Byer
For who?
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
For why, for how. So you know what? But shout out to a three first name king, Casey William Kelly, because I don't even know how you thought to print out a cashier's check at your home. Probably been sitting inside too long. Coronavirus. She was like, I could print out a cash and check from my home.
Nicole Byer
Or maybe he saw Catch Me if youf can, that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio running all them scams. And he was like, I can do that. I'm cute.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Listen.
Nicole Byer
And he.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
He did. And did. He did get the car off the lot. So I'm proud of this king.
Nicole Byer
But we. Me too.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
We have reached the end of the show.
Nicole Byer
Nicole Lacey thank you so much for having me back. Honestly, it's just a treat to talk to you.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
It is. Thank you for being thing here. Seriously. Wait, where do you want to be found?
Nicole Byer
Hopefully engaged with a nice man. No, you can find me on Instagram, Twitter at Nicole Byer. I have other podcasts. Why won't you date me? Best friends 90 day ban patreon, drag her with mono Agapian where we talk about drag race newcomers with Lauren Lapkis where now we are watching Lord of the Rings and good Lord, that movie's a scam. They're too long. They should have been broken up up. But yeah, you can just. Oh, and I have a book, Very fat, very brave. It's a self help guide for fat women. But if you're a thin and you have low self esteem, I guess maybe you'll help.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
I don't know what a sales pitch there. And if you're thin and you hate yourself. No, no, no, no, no.
Nicole Byer
I can, I can help you. You thin, self hating.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
No, I'm kidding. No, no, no, no, no. But it's a good book for just confidence and gen general.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. And it's got like little comebacks if someone insults you. The main takeaway of the book I'll just tell you, I'd prefer if you bought it is like if someone says something about your body, it means you're powerful because that person had to stop their day to tell you something and you never thought once about them.
Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
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Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)
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Release Date: February 27, 2026
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Nicole Byer
This jubilant, laugh-filled Fraud Friday classic brings together Laci Mosley (the "Scam Goddess") and Emmy-nominated comedian Nicole Byer (of "Nailed It!" and "Why Won’t You Date Me?") to revel in tales of scams—both petty and grandiose. The episode features Nicole’s personal scam-adjacent stories, a listener letter about quitting aids-turned-side hustle, a deep dive into the infamous “Inventing Heiress” con (the $90,000 “Irish royalty” grift that hit Los Angeles’ TV-production scene), and rapid-fire takes on a Florida man who bought a Porsche with a homemade check.
With Mosley’s signature warmth and wit and Byer’s rollicking humor, this episode is both a cautionary tale and a celebration of creative hustling—“True Con” in action.
Summary of the Scam:
Notable Quotes & Reactions:
Comic Interjections:
| Time | Speaker & Quote | |----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:09 | Nicole: “I bought a shitty bike from a shitty company...Very ambitious of you to buy a whole bike in a box.” | | 13:28 | Laci: “I was sucking d*ck for Juul.” | | 14:14 | Nicole (on new mask culture): “Now that I think about it, I kinda like wearing a mask...” | | 23:07 | Nicole: “I think Shamika’s an entrepreneur.” (Re: listener scam letter) | | 24:31 | Nicole: “If I ever met somebody...‘I’m an heiress’…I’d be like, ‘So you good with money?’” | | 38:44 | Laci: “That’s the thing about scamming. People think scamming is not work. Scamming isn’t employment, it’s a profession.” | | 42:39 | Laci: “Her bank accounts weren't frozen. They just were empty.” | | 45:33 | Nicole: “That’s pretty good...you stole $80,000 over four years? That’s 20 a year. That's nice. Tax free.” | | 46:23 | Nicole (re: homemade Porsche check): “Also the dealership was like, ah, looks right?” | | 48:12 | Nicole (joking): “Now I have the perfect plan...get a fake driver’s license, write that check for down payment, how will they get to you?” |
This episode is playful, irreverent, and warm—just like a conversation between old friends. Laci and Nicole jump between crackling comedic bits, candid admissions, and sharp cultural observations. Listeners are just as likely to laugh out loud as they are to ponder the blurred lines between hustling and fraud.
As Laci signs off:
“Stay scheming, congregation! … If you want to support a Black queen out there—do your activism for today—like and subscribe to our show, give me 5-star reviews and talk about how lovely of a human being I am.” (51:09, Laci)