The Lying Lover with Lala Milan

Summary

Scam Goddess – “The Lying Lover” with Lala Milan

October 13, 2020 | Host: Laci Mosley | Guest: Lala Milan

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Episode Overview

This episode of Scam Goddess dives into the wild world of romance scams with comedian and actress Lala Milan as the guest. Host Laci Mosley (aka The Scam Goddess) and Lala share laughs as they examine both personal experiences and the ins-and-outs of a notorious modern-day “lying lover”—serial romance scammer Richard Scott Smith, the subject of the Showtime docuseries Love Fraud. The episode blends hilarious personal anecdotes, insightful commentary on scammers' motives, and a breakdown of the psychology (and practical logistics) behind romance and rental scams, all through the show’s signature irreverent, relatable lens.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Scam Conversations & Past Schemes [02:30 – 04:44]

• Laci gushes over Lala’s comedy and campaigns, recounting almost being “scammed” by a well-done Savage Fenty ad.
  • Quote (Laci, 01:44): “Next thing I knew, I was laughing, and my hand was on my credit card, and I was like, how did this get in my hand, girl?”
• Lala shares her closest brush with scamming from her Walgreens employee days—helping known credit card scammers in exchange for a small “fee” in gift cards.
  • Quote (Lala, 03:20): “I was overworked and underpaid. So when the scammers came in…I’d let it ride. But I don’t think that was scamming. I think that was genius.”

2. Listener Letter: Squatters’ Rights Scam [04:44 – 18:48]

• A listener story about home squatting: During the home-closing process, a couple and their dog break into a house and use a fake lease and a sob story (including a sick dog) to evade eviction. Police say it’s a “civil matter” due to tenant rights, leaving homeowners in limbo.
  • Commentary on race and privilege in policing evictions.
  • Lala and Laci debate shady creativity vs. desperation in scams: Some squatters may just be opportunistically avoiding rent.
  • Quote (Lala, 12:08): “A lot of scammers aren’t in a bad spot financially. A lot of them are just greedy…they get used to not having to pay for stuff.”
  • Laci notes empathy for some living on the margins but also demands dirty tricks would never fly if it happened to her.
  • Quote (Laci, 16:39): “If I bought a house and somebody was living in that joint when I pulled up, best believe I’m calling my whole family…We will be showing up with bats.”

3. Historic Hoodwinks: The Lying Lover, Richard Scott Smith [18:52 – 48:14]

• Introduction to Smith: Over 20 years, Smith scammed dozens of women out of $1+ million by posing as a romantic partner: marrying, proposing, opening joint accounts, stealing identities, and sometimes plotting life insurance murder schemes.
• Charisma as a scammer’s weapon: Despite being unattractive by Lala and Laci’s standards, Smith succeeded because of charm and emotional manipulation.
  • Quote (Laci, 20:24): “Most scammers have great personalities…they’re charismatic, they’re charming.”
  • Quote (Lala, 20:58): “I still be side-eyeing my own man, child…My mama told me if a man ever dig into your purse, he be stealing.”
• Women’s vulnerability to romance scams:
  • Laci discusses how middle-aged women, especially, can be targeted due to loneliness and “damaged goods” in dating pools.
  • Quote (Laci, 32:11): “You got to be waiting outside [the funeral home] with the flowers to get them, because the next day they gonna be gone. That’s the only time you can get one.”
• Smith’s MO: Love-bombing, quick proposals, using details from prior cons, manipulating to get joint accounts and property, and sometimes putting out life insurance policies before suggesting suspicious vacations.
  • Quote (Lala, 36:15): “If my man say, ‘Bae, I want to pull out an insurance policy for you,’ then say, ‘let’s go swimming,’ I’m gonna be like, I canceled the policy. It was too expensive for my pockets. I’m good.”
• How he got caught: One (Sabrina Dunlap) uncovers the fraudulent accounts and links up with other victims; Smith eventually faces identity theft and forgery charges but receives minimal jail time.
  • Quote (Laci, 41:12): “The audacity of Smith. Okay, I know we had the audacity of Obama, but now we have the audacity of Dick Smith because…wow.”
• **Lala and Laci fantasize about reverse-scamming Smith and debate the potential for scammers to go legit or “play the game” morally.

4. Scammer of the Week: Steve Bannon and the ‘We Build the Wall’ Fraud [48:33 – 55:32]

• Steve Bannon charged for misusing private donations intended for Trump’s border wall; only a portion of the $25M raised was spent on the wall, much being redirected for personal use.
  • Laci and Lala riff on the absurdity of donors trusting social media personalities with massive sums for public infrastructure.
  • Quote (Laci, 51:00): “Y’all dumbasses over here even giving money to whoever the fuck online talking about, you know, ‘we gonna build the wall ourselves’…”
  • Improv riffs: on selling Trump merchandise, from fanny packs to “Trump anal beads,” as a scam on racist supporters, with the punchline being Black women profiting off their money.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

[03:20] Lala Milan on employee-level scam sympathy:
“I was overworked and underpaid. So when the scammers came in…I’d let it ride. But I don’t think that was scamming. I think that was genius.”

[05:12] Laci Mosley defining the NextDoor app:
“Nextdoor is that app for, like, nosy neighbors, mostly white people, to keep tabs on the new browns.”

[12:08] Lala Milan’s perspective:
“A lot of scammers aren’t in a bad spot financially. A lot of them are just greedy…”

[16:39] Laci, on what she’d do if she found squatters in her bought house:
“We will be showing up with bats…We’re not going to do this.”

[20:24] Laci on scammer charisma:
“Most scammers have great personalities…they’re charismatic, they’re charming.”

[41:12] Laci’s iconic phrase:
“The audacity of Smith. Okay, I know we had the audacity of Obama, but now we have the audacity of Dick Smith because…wow.”

[48:33 – 55:32] Scammer of the Week segment improv:
Laci and Lala brainstorm Trump merchandise scams for laughs.

• Lala: “You could come out with Trump spray tan.”
• Laci: “We just want to thank all the racists out there for supporting black queens.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intros/Fangirling - [00:30 – 02:45]
• Lala’s Walgreens Scam Assist - [02:45 – 04:44]
• Listener Letter: Squatting Scam - [04:44 – 18:48]
• Historic Hoodwinks: The Lying Lover (Richard Scott Smith/“Love Fraud”) - [18:52 – 48:14]
• Scammer of the Week: Steve Bannon & ‘We Build the Wall’ - [48:33 – 55:32]
• Guest Plug & Farewell - [55:44 – 57:21]

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Tone & Style

The episode is packed with quick wit, off-the-cuff banter, and a conspiratorial, confessional vibe. Both Laci and Lala use comedy to process both personal brushes with scams and broader systemic fraud, mixing social commentary with pop culture references. The language is candid, irreverent, and always leans into keeping it “real.”

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Where to Find More

• Guest: Lala Milan (@lalamilan); check her podcast “The Salon”.
• Host: Laci Mosley (@divalaci); send your own scam stories to [e-mail]

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Congregation, as always: stay schemin’!

Transcript

[A]

Scams C. Robbery and fraud. Scams, robbery and fraud. What's poppin, Congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And we back for another installment of this nonsense. Y' all know what it is. Look at that. I sound like a little disc jockey or something.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I was trying to switch it up for y'. Okay, well, here comes the regular part. Say it with me. I am very.

[B]

What?

[A]

Excited for this guest, and I truly, truly am. Y'. All, like, this is a huge guest. She is a comedy queen. You've seen her on Boomerang. She has her new popping podcast out now on Stitcher, called the Salon. We've got Lala Milan.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

Hey, girl.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm so excited. You literally have been bringing me joy and laughter for so, so long, so this is just so wonderful. Also, I have to just say I have to fangirl for a second. I loved your Savage Fenty campaigns. They were.

[B]

Ooh, thank you.

[A]

Your body looked amazing. Ooh.

[B]

Come on. Gas me up, then.

[A]

Yes. Okay. Goon. Goon. Okay, this XMO bitch. I got you with the gang.

[B]

Come on. Thank you.

[A]

Yes. Your body looks so good, and you were so funny. So I was, like, entertained. And then I was like, wait a minute. This is an ad. And then for a moment, I was scammed by Mark Zuckerberg. Cause I was like, I'm just watching this. Like, I thought it was content. And I was like, oh, yeah, they sell me pants. Yes.

[B]

They knew who to choose when it comes to trying to tap into something different, you know?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they did a good job. Cause I was like. Next thing I knew, I was laughing, and my hand was on my credit card, and I was like, how did this get in my hand, girl?

[B]

Okay, but did you swipe, though?

[A]

Listen. Had to. I, you know, listen anything. Rihanna's out here hawking. Imma get. Okay. She may not give us an album right now, but I will listen to these lip glosses.

[B]

Look, and that's fine. The lip glosses, the skin, the lingerie girl, you could get everything but the album right about now. But she making her coins.

[A]

Okay, Right. I feel like if you put on all her products at once, you can hear the music,

[B]

maybe. You know what? I think in one of the disclaimers, it did say music included upon purchase of every item, so.

[A]

Hey, hey, you know what? I love Rihanna. She's a great. I don't know if she's a scammer, but she's a queen, so. Wait, I Have to ask you, Lala, do you have a relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever run a scam that you can talk about without the statute of limitations?

[B]

You know, Girl, y' all trying to get me arrested. They ain't tell me that was a part of this. Okay, so I've never scammed anybody, but I've seen people scam and. And something that I did do back in the day when I was working at Walgreens. I knew the scammers was coming in during the credit card scams and stuff, so I would tell them, I'd be like, I'll let you swipe as many cards as you want to. Just leave me a gift card under the tire of that white Chevy Malibu outside, and, you know, we'll be good to go. Because Walgreens wasn't paying me enough. I was overworked and underpaid. So when the scammers came in, I'd be like, I know what you doing. And for a small fee on a gift card, I'll let it ride. So that's the closest I ever got to scamming. But I don't think that was scamming. I think that was genius.

[A]

That was genius. And that's what we call a middleman. Okay, like, okay.

[B]

Yes, indeed. Yes.

[A]

Like, look, I won't call the cops as long as you leave it and not leave it under the tire. Very slick. Very. Like, who could know?

[B]

Yes. Don't leave it on camera. Don't pass me nothing. You doing too much. You making a block hot. Okay.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Especially at the end of the night when my managers ask a question, it's like, I don't know. Their money wasn't sure. Once I learned that their money wasn't sure, I was like, oh, bye. Good day. They be scamming us, right?

[A]

I mean, every corporation is like squeezing the blood from a stone when it comes for the workers. And then they're turning in record profits every single year. That's how they continue to make money. Like, you get more investors. Yeah. And then the little man gets squeezed dry. So you did the right thing. I don't think I approve of this.

[B]

Thank you. Technically, you didn't do any crime.

[A]

You were adjusted to crime. You were in the cul de sac of the crime. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yes, yes, that's perfectly fine.

[A]

Okay, well, we have a listener letter from someone. Wait, Lala, I need you to give me a fake name. Like, just any name.

[B]

Okay. We could go with Slim Thickiana.

[A]

Slim Thickiana. Okay, Slim Thickiana says, hi, Lacey. I was snooping on next door. Which next door is that app for, like, nosy neighbors, mostly white people, to keep tabs on the new browns.

[B]

That's funny. Okay. That's a right thing.

[A]

Yeah. Next door. It's like a neighborhood app. You get on there for the tea. So, like, if the cops come, then you go on next door and they'll be like, oh, the cops came because so and so stole whatever.

[B]

I need to get on there.

[A]

It's messy. It's messy. There's probably one for your neighborhood, too. It's really big in la.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna check it out.

[A]

So this Slim Thickiana says, I was snooping on next door, and I found this really interesting con. The person posting it was the victim. I'll paraphrase it for you. Thank you, Slim Thickiana, because, you know, we don't like no long emails. So it says. So this person bought a house, and while they were in closing process, a couple and their dog broke into the house through the back do and are now refusing to leave. The new homeowners called the cops, and this couple gave some sob story about getting scammed into a fake lease and how their dog has cancer. Damn. They gave the dog cancer. They said, we got scammed.

[B]

And you know it's going to work. You know it's going to work because, you know, people love a dog.

[A]

Listen. And police listen. You. You better off saying your dog have cancer than being black and said, okay,

[B]

I wasn't even going to say nothing.

[A]

But you did. Oh, you are fully welcome to say it on this podcast. Everybody knows. Also, please stop leaving comments on my podcast talking about you as Trump supporter and you feel dejected listening to this show. I don't make this show for Trump supporters, okay? Now, if you want to listen and cringe every now and then, that's on you. But y' all know I'm not over here giving racist joy. Anyways,

[B]

if they support Trump, they support racism, and I'm surprised that means that they're supporting you. That's awkward. But some. I don't know, I'll be feeling like people do their research all the way. But who am I? I'm not into politics. No way.

[A]

Not that laugh. I can't. I wish you guys could see Lala. Her face is so expressive. Yeah, no, I mean, we get into it every now and then, but that's not really what the show is about. But I hate when people leave me reviews like, you know, I wish you just lay off the politics. It's like, I wish that politics were like for you, where, you know, they don't really matter, but, you know, niggas is getting killed. So guess what? I gotta get involved in politics. I gotta march. My feet hurt, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Freedom is exhausting. Okay. Nobody said. When I looked at all the pictures, they look cute in the pictures, though, right? Like, MLK was in the fly suits. Okay, There were some dogs and some hoses, but for the most part, it looks. First of all, what picture?

[B]

The one picture that you referring to that you. That I think that you saying look cute was MLK at the podium, child. And him raising his hand with all the millions of people right there. The Million Man Mark. That's the only cute, glorified picture that I see. The rest of them, child, you see hoses, it's all in black and white. Anything in black and white just give me a struggle anyways, okay? It was just all bad.

[A]

That's the struggle filter. You are absolutely right. But I didn't realize until I had to get my black ass out there and start marching this. And I was like, oh, my God, this is exhausting.

[B]

Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Why you think Auntie Rosa wasn't trying to move to the back? Her feet was hurting already.

[A]

Auntie Rosa had been in the struggle at that point. She was like, no, you don't understand. We just got off the march. I'm sitting.

[B]

Yes. I'm sitting right here. I ain't going nowhere. Y' all gonna take me to jail. Cool. Just pick me up. Bye.

[A]

Right. Can y' all lift me off the bus? Thank you so much.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

So this couple scammed the police, saying that, oh, you know, hey, we got tricked into moving into this place. And also Scruffy got the cancer. So, you know, help us out. So since they're new owners and haven't moved in yet, the couple that's on next door, the cops are saying that they should settle this in civil court, which could take months. Even with proof of purchase by the owners, the squatters are protected by tenants rights with the fake lease papers. The cops apparently didn't even check to verify the lease papers at all. They were just. That's how you know these people wearing black. Because if they were, they would have

[B]

not only been, they would have looked it up and down with a magnifying glass, a zoom lens from the iPhone 13, everything.

[A]

Right. I feel like they would have verified the papers by pulling out their night sticks and beating on them. I feel like they would have Never even read the papers.

[B]

Why you playing? For real? For real. And then ask questions later, right?

[A]

Like, oh, they had papers. Damn. We did not even ask, honestly, Right? We came in and didn't have a conversation at all. Yes. So this lovely Caucasian couple. I love a Caucasian con, though. Listen, if I was white, I would be doing Caucasian cons all the time. I would use my alabaster and. And like really just milk it. Milk it dry, you know what I mean?

[B]

Your alabaster. Your alabaster. Oh my God.

[A]

Listen, if you got.

[B]

What kind of show do they got me on? Oh my God. To all the white people out there listening, y' all are lit. And I know that y' all are not racist because for them, I'm weak. I am weak.

[A]

That's half.

[B]

There's a whole bunch of white people who love when black people keep it real and they love it because they're allies. So shout out to y'. All. Y' all lit, right?

[A]

They are lit. And look, we're not saying nothing bad about white folks. I'm just saying there's privileges that I don't have. And if I had them, I would be riding them to the wheels fell off every single day.

[B]

Okay? Period.

[A]

So the cop says, oh, y' all gotta go settle this in civil court. The homeowners have tried contacting the squatters directly. They've looped in their realtor and even hired an attorney. They've tried shutting off the utilities, but the squatter seems to know the loopholes to get they shit turned back on. That's literally what it says in the email. The. The homeowners even tried getting the squatter's car towed. They have multiple records of eviction over the last few years and they've had multiple break in disputes with other realt in the area. So this isn't their first rodeo for sure. They know what they're doing now. It's just even easier with COVID eviction regulations. Shit's fucked. Didn't even realize it was possible for someone to steal your house like that.

[B]

Damn, that's insane. It sound like they be living rent free everywhere that they go. And they done did it so much that they literally built up a repertoire of tricks to not get kicked out of houses that they're not paying for.

[A]

Absolutely. And here's the thing though. I know a lot of people hear this and be like, see, this is why we need to change the renters laws. And people are taking advantage. However, you have to think about the situation that these scammers are in too. Like, if you're in a situation where you were willing to move whenever you get run out of a house that you broke into and squatted in with no furniture and possibly no utilities, you're probably in a bad spot financially.

[B]

You know, a lot of scammers aren't in a bad spot financially. A lot of them are just greedy because they be scammed. A lot of them be scamming their way to riches and then just get used to not having to pay for stuff and don't want to go legal because it's easier to make quick money or to save money. So these people possibly could have a whole business or could possibly be saying they out there homeless. You don't seen it. If they doing this, trust and believe they doing something else because they paying the bills at the house.

[A]

Right? But do you think, though, like, I think, like, when you talk about the credit card scammers earlier at Walgreens, I feel like those people might be scamming to excess and using that to go by, you know, iconography like Gucci, Hermes, whatever. But I feel like if I was a scammer, at least just as a human being, I don't want to move every three months or whenever the law comes and forces me to scoot out. Like, I don't want to potentially be homeless every, you know, other day. And I feel like that's the place where I wouldn't be trying to scam people.

[B]

Be differences, people be different. Like some people, the people who squatting in these houses probably, like, I would never go into a store and swipe somebody else's credit card, but they dang sure going squat in somebody else's house. There's different types of scammers. You know, it just depends on your preference.

[A]

We talk about a lot of different scammers.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I just tend to feel for the scammers, especially in situations like this, because I just don't know. I guess me, like, I need to know where my house at every day. Like, I don't want to come back to my house. And they like, nah.

[B]

Like, but see, they done found the loopholes. They probably have to give them a note of, like, notice of 12 days. Look, we're about to go ahead and take you out. Like, they done did this multiple times, and now at this point, it's like, oh, we'll never have to pay rent again. Let's put that money into mind. You. They said they tried to get their car towed. Girl, they got a car, okay. They got a Car. But people be living in their cars

[A]

though and be home.

[B]

But they're not. They're not. They. Yeah, they are living other person's house. Yeah. So these people, they don't figure it out. They just live in rent free. But they put their money on stuff that they think is more important.

[A]

Look, Lala is a hardworking woman and I can tell right now she is not a scam empathizer. I am a scam. But I appreciate this contrast because we need somebody to come on and have the contrast because everybody usually just lets me like bully them into liking scams. So I love this girl so much.

[B]

I'm not going lie. I saw that they got going on at this point. Like, I'm like, dang, let me go find some loopholes. Prime example, right? There's these. My boyfriend was working at Google one time and he was like, there is a homeless guy who was sue Google. He sued Google and won millions of dollars and he's still living homeless, but now he advocates for the other homeless people out there. He was super intelligent. He just basically knew all the loopholes to everything. And he sued multiple companies and he's a multi millionaire off of winning, you know, lawsuits against these huge companies. So I say that to say some people just enjoy doing what the hell they do. They learn it and it's like, well, hey, you know. And he literally still be living homeless now. Yes, yes.

[A]

I need to find out who this man is, but he's helping people. That's great.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. He be advocating for the homeless people out there on Google's grounds. Now let's be clear. Here's the thing. He may just have a house, obviously he's multi, but he'd still be living homeless every now and again. And his tent is average.

[A]

Wow. So he doesn't even have the nice. See, I. I will say though, for the most part, I feel like people are who are unhoused are doing it because they don't have any other choice. I'm not gonna say there aren't any outliers for sure. I'm not gonna say these people squatting may not have created a lifestyle of squatting. Absolutely. Also I have to say though, whoever the victim is on next door, like this person is not bad about it because I'm currently looking to maybe buy a house. And if I bought a house and, and somebody was living in that joint when I pulled up, best believe I'm calling my whole family. We will be showing up with bats. We will be showing up with whatever we have To. To run you out of the house. We're not going to do this.

[B]

But my question is, did they move in after they gave them a tour of the house or what?

[A]

So they purchased the house and then the squatters. So basically there was. You know how this. You'll see a for sale sign and then they'll put sold. And they were some realty companies to try to flex. So then they see the soul sign, but nobody's moved in yet, right? So they break in through the back door. And then they were like, great, we live here now.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah, this is different. Did they say what city and state they in? Cause it sound like Florida.

[A]

It really does sound like some Florida shit. I do not know. It does not specify. Sometimes people leave stuff like that out because they don't want to get caught up. But it doesn't specify what state. But a lot of states have these squatters rights, and especially in California, we have strong squatters rights.

[B]

So I was about to say. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. I wasn't surprised if it was here too. Right, you're right.

[A]

But there's so many slumlords that we need squatters, right? So there's only gonna be a few people like this who try to get over. For the most part, it's people living right? However, if you do this to me, like, I will take you to court. And by court, I'm talking about my back, my baddest name, court.

[B]

See? And then they gonna come up in there. Cause they used to scamming already with their neck brace, they cast, they wheelchair, all that extra stuff and say, she

[A]

beat me, she tore me up.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Why? You sound like the color Purple.

[B]

That's what I was going for. Good, I'm glad you caught the reference. Yes.

[A]

They gonna roll in on a medical gurney with an eye.

[B]

They are. Yes. And they're gonna be like, she did this to me. And now you're going to lose your house and your freedom.

[A]

But see, what if it's in Florida? Stand my ground. If I beat you up on my property, that's well within my rights.

[B]

Is it your property or is it their property? According to them papers?

[A]

Wow. Wow. You know what? I hope you're not my. I hope you're not their lawyer, because I'm fucked. Okay? Every argument destroyed. Okay? Lala Esquire. She has destroyed my arguments. I'm going to jail.

[B]

Jail. That concludes my argument, you, Honor.

[A]

It's like, oh, this way, this way to prison. Okay, great. And they keep my home. Okay, cool, cool. Sounds good. All right, guys. We will be back after the short break of some non scam advertisements scams C. And welcome back. And it's time for my favorite part of this podcast, Historic Hoodwinks. That is when I will regale Lala with a infamous con. And we're gonna get her opinions all throughout. I'm so excited. Yes. Okay, me too. Okay, so today we're talking about Richard Scott Smith. He is a gentleman. Or maybe he's not a gentleman, honey. Who scammed a group of women in the Midwest by posing as each of their romantic interests over the span of 20 years and stealing over $1 million from them. He's. Yes. He's the subject of a Showtime docu series called Love Fraud, where filmmakers followed Smith for a year, speaking with about 30 different women in total who had been scammed by Smith.

[B]

How do you. Girl, the crazy thing is I just google him and it says that there's more to come. He's not done. And that was on September 3rd. He not even that attractive. How you let this man with the horrible hairline sit up there and scam you out of your money?

[A]

Yeah, his hairline is gonna be desperate. His face. His hairline is.

[B]

I don't like that.

[A]

To freedom, man. Listen, here's the thing. When it comes to women, and not even just women, just people in general, like, if you have a good personality, most scammers have great personalities. They're charismatic, they're charming. If he managed to make these women feel loved and smart, sought after and, like, tended for, you know what I mean? Like, I could see how they would fall into this. You know, I've been lonely from time to time, you know, a suspect looking man might, you know, girl, see, that's the thing.

[B]

I be so on guard nowadays just because I know how much scamming is going on. Like, thankfully, I don't have to worry about that. I still be sat eyeing my own man child, looking like, hold up, all right. Every now and again, I do the purse check where I be like, pass me. Pass me my wallet, child. My mom told me, if a man ever dig into your purse, he be stealing. Every time that he passed me my purse, I'd be looking at him like, hold up. Oh, all right. He passing me the purse, not my wallet. The day that he passed me my wallet were done.

[A]

I love this test. I had the old test. I gotta get a new test. Cause my test was just like, if you wake up and then all the contents of your purse are still in there, then it's like, okay, cool, girl.

[B]

A smart. They done got advanced. They don't. Obviously. They don't do it that fast no more. They build up to it, you know, and then they make you fall in love. Next thing you know, stuff come up missing. I don't know, like, your car. You know,

[A]

the car. I don't want to be like, I love you. And then the next day, like, I come outside of the garage just empty.

[B]

Oh, girl, these men are different. I mean, look at what happened with that makeup guy, Jeffrey Star up there. Yes. He went up there and went public with him. Everything. I saw it on the blogs. Next thing you know, he said, at least bring my stuff back. Everybody was like, the scam of the century. I said, my goodness, these scammers are getting advanced.

[A]

They are.

[B]

This man had his whole family. The wife was crying and stuff. Like, he left me say, nah, sweetie. He went off and hit a lick for y'. All.

[A]

See, that's more romantic. That kind of ends the story in the way that I wanted. So basically, there's this guy. I don't remember his name, but he's bi, and he was with a woman, and they had a fresh baby. Like, the baby was, like, still had the. You know, what do they call it? Like, the baby hairs were still laid. The umbilical cord was still nearby.

[B]

Yes, indeed.

[A]

Like, it was fresh out the vagina, baby. And he left his wife or girlfriend to be with Jeffree Star, who's a prominent and problematic makeup artist. And the gentleman in question, I can't remember his name, but he is black, which is funny because Jeffree Star loves to do racism to people. But so they got together. Jeffree's posting him on his Instagram, his Snapchat, kissing, hugging, all of this. It was with the quickness. And so the wife is on Instagram. Y' all, like, please, baby, come back to me. Like, I love you. And it's very sad. And I guess they recently broke up, because then now Jeffree Star was under his page, like, hey, you're not picking up my phone calls. Can you at least bring back my stuff? And so I hope it's what you say, Lala. I hope it's that he hit a lick for the family. You know what I mean? The baby came out.

[B]

Would you take your band back after he hit a lick with another man

[A]

for the family, if it was for the family? You know what I mean, girl?

[B]

Maybe the Jeffree Star said he was like, I mean, we were kicking it, having sex. He made sure to put that in there. Right. You felt the need to say y' all was having sex. That ain't none of our business.

[A]

All right, we could have guessed because, Jeffrey, you were posting pictures with you straddling this man's lap. Like, we know y' all have sex.

[B]

I know you ain't gotta say all that. So now you done open up your little pearly gates to heaven just for that man to steal your stuff. Mm. If anything, I'd have just said we was kicking it. Go ahead. My bad, girl.

[A]

Right? No, you good. You can always interrupt. No, and I do it too. Podcast. No, I was gonna say that. Also, Jeffree benefited from this, like, whatever he stole from you. Come on, let's talk about all the free clout. And people were talking about you, and you were trending on Instagram and on Twitter. So, like, you got something from this arrangement.

[B]

They say no publicity is bad publicity. You know what I'm saying? And depending on who you are, a lot of people really, really be seeking attention. I don't follow Jeffree star like that, and I don't really know too much about him, but I did see the whole spectacle occur when it happened. And just the fact that he was public with it, I think he was enjoying it. So, I mean, he got what he wanted, right?

[A]

He got the clout, he got the clicks. And I mean, he already has a huge following, but I'm sure that went even further and maybe even helped his non racist narrat. Also, like, I always worry about, like, I'm pretty. I guess I can't say I'm squeaky clean, but I try to keep it pretty clean, like with publicly, like, how I act and like, what I share and stuff. But I'm wondering if I need to start being a little more trash so people will expect less of me. That way I don't ever have any scandals.

[B]

Oh, that's so funny that you say that. I literally be wondering, like, it's crazy because the people who get glorified the most, you know, are a lot of times people who, you know, are very transparent, open, and, like, don't give a fin up. That's what I be saying. They just don't care about what they display, you know, and people love it. And it's funny because I be seeing these people get hella engagement. These people go live and they got 10,000 and thousands of people, and they live all the time just off of, you know, doing stuff that quote, unquote, or traditionally isn't morally okay, you know, so that's a very valid question. They do. I'm like. And I be wondering. It's funny that you say that, because I'm like, I don't know, should I. Should I start doing the most, you know? Cause, hell, these skits, they. They cute, but they're not engaging. As if I was to spill my business or come out with a plot or do something crazy. Look, I swear, I be feeling like half the stuff that people do is plot just for social media. I can't call it. I just can't bring myself to do it. I just can't.

[A]

Because you don't have to, Lala. You're very talented. You're super funny. I feel like when you know that you have the skills, it's like, you don't have to.

[B]

People don't want talent these days. They don't want talent. Girl, can you not tell? Talent doesn't sell no more. They want the mess. They want the drama, okay? And at this point, I'm like, well, gosh, I got this talent. But the people who don't got talent and they just showing ass and all that stuff, they get more engagement. So what does sister girl gotta do? Show a left cheek, right cheek, what's up?

[A]

But see, listen, them cheeks only last for so long. You know what I mean? You can only keep the only Carly Redd. Carly Red is the only Instagram thought I know who has made it into her 50s, probably would still show a cheek, you know?

[B]

I don't even know how old Carly is.

[A]

No one does.

[B]

They don't. Okay? So I don't know how old Carly is. I don't know how old Cash Doll is. But I'll tell you what, these girls have been doing it for years, and they've had longevity. And I'm like, if y' all got business managers and y' all got financial advisors keeping y' all together, y' all gonna be lucrative forever.

[A]

Forever. Listen, and I love get it how you live. I don't knock any type of hustle out there. For real, like, get the bag. Which is why I was glad when, like, Cardi B was kind of this resurgence of, like, you seeing Instagram women becoming famous on their own. Right? You know what I mean? From, like. So I was just like, yes, I fucking love this. But so this guy. Let's get back to Mr. Smith.

[B]

Oh, my bad. Ooh, we gave in some good combos.

[A]

Yes. Oh, no, we go on tangents here. People love it. They ready for it. It's fine. So this is called the Kiss and Diss. So Smith worked as a Car salesman. Makes sense. Car salesmen know how to be shady.

[B]

Don't let us be scamming.

[A]

But sometimes claim to be a lawyer or a doctor. Okay, so Smith regularly went by Rick or Scott. They don't them don't. Your name is Richard. Okay, so Richard Scott. So you can go by Rick or Scott. That's fine.

[B]

He's supposed to go by Dick.

[A]

True. He was out here giving it to the community too. So he was passing it out like Jehovah's Witness going door to door.

[B]

Yeah, indeed.

[A]

She said, he's playing flute or you can take this Dick. And that's beautiful. So he also went by Mickey. I feel like if he went by Mickey and you met him and you with him, like that's on you. I'm never gonna have any kind of relationship with somebody named Mickey.

[B]

Well, that's a Caucasian thing, child. I feel like Mickey, Dick, Richard, Sam. You know, all those names is very much so job security. So he knew the ladies heard that and they were like, ooh, he had some money. Richard. Yeah, Richard, Come on now.

[A]

Has a 401k.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

So he allegedly told many of the women he was waiting to receive a multi million dollar medical malpractice settlement and promised a life of financial stability. Even telling one woman he would pay for her son to go to college with another. He spoke about buying a house for them in Belize. Okay, listen, I've said this before, but I think Belize is an ugly island and y' all can fight. Um, I've been there a lot. I don't like it anyways, but shout out to y' all as people, but not y' all island. So at first glance, Smith appeared to be a great catch. He was attractive. Okay, so attractive.

[B]

They lying. They lying. They lie According to whom? Yes, yes.

[A]

Maybe, I guess. And. And he offered middle aged women that he dated a shoulder to cry on. He left love filled voicemails and told them he couldn't stand to be away from them. Smith quickly proposed and in many cases married the women. Smith often convinced the women to open joint bank accounts with him or use their credit cards to buy cars, homes, or even businesses.

[B]

Girl, you know what this sound like? Did Tyler Perry get inspiration for his movie from this? You know what movie I'm talking about? It just came out. No, the movie. Yes, the one with Bresha Webb.

[A]

Oh, that's called the wigs. There's so many wigs in there. That was wrong.

[B]

Yes, girl. Yes.

[A]

A fall from grace.

[B]

A fall from grace. Sounds just like this. He literally Married her quick. Got access to her account, sold the house. Everything, everything that this man is doing. Girl.

[A]

Y', all, if you ever wake up and you start feeling like Tyler Perry movies are relatable. Like that's you really need to get your life together.

[B]

If you ever just like child, listen, if you do ever feel like a Tyler Perry movie is relatable, then you gotta reevaluate your life and what you got going on. Because them movies all be drama filled, right?

[A]

If you're married to an abusive dark skinned man and then a light skinned bus driver with a cornrow weave shows up, you gotta watch out because your life may be a talented movie.

[B]

Man. Look, oh, if, if ever I would be like, oh hell no, go right back to sleep, wake up and do whatever. Cause I don't like that.

[A]

No, it's a mess. But also like what strikes me here is these are like middle aged women, you know that some of them have college age children. And when you're at that age, it's harder, especially for women to find men who aren't damaged goods. Because if you're a normal, well adjusted man, by the time you're in your mid to late 40s, for the most part you're either in a relationship or you're married. Or maybe you are here, you know, being having a midlife crisis or dating younger women because you childish, but you know what I mean. So it's hard to find the men who are single, who are good men. It's almost like you got to be waiting outside the funeral home, like see whose wife died and you got to be right there with the flowers to get them because the next day they gonna be gone. That's the only time you can get one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Pretty much.

[A]

You just gotta hang out at the cemetery and buy the fresh graves.

[B]

Listen. Oh my God. So my question, what happened with this, with this richer guy? Like how did he get caught? Did he get in trouble? Like what's he with him? Because I'm curious.

[A]

Yeah, there's more. So one shocking discovery was that he would often borrow details of the lives of other women he was seeing when targeting a new woman. For example, he told one woman he had a kid sister named Nicole, which was actually one of his booze, had a kid sister named Nicole. He would offer all these details. In reality, he was describing the kid of another woman that he was seeing. As soon as his lady was suspicious of him, he would disappear and move on to the next victim. So as soon as you start asking, as soon as he reached in the purse to grab the wallet.

[B]

Instead of using it, she would be gone.

[A]

There would be a trail of dust.

[B]

Wow. Wow.

[A]

So Sabrina Dunlap is one of the many women Smith was engaged to.

[B]

Wait a minute. Is Sabrina black or white?

[A]

I don't know. We can Google, but I feel like Sabrina's probably not one of us.

[B]

But we can Google Sabrina Dunlap sound black as hell.

[A]

Really, Marina? Google Sabrina Dunlap, love fraud, and tell us if she's black. We need to know. So Smith told her that he was married once before, but had been divorced for three years. He seemed to be someone who was stable and worked hard, which made Dunlap think, wow, this is a good guy. He was good looking, and he seemed honest. After a first date at the sandwich chain Schlotsky's. You ain't taking me no sandwich shop for the first date, Schlotskies. I don't want to eat fresh on our first date. Anyway, it says after that, he wooed her with clothes and jewelry. Okay. And she said, I wasn't used to that. Clearly you was having a date at Schlosky's. She said, oh, wow. He is really nice. He also befriended her dog. Come on now. Selena can't be black

[B]

at that point. Okay, it looks like I can't find

[A]

a photo, but she's described as blonde.

[B]

Blonde. She. She white. A blonde.

[A]

49 year old, no tolerance for nonsense.

[B]

No tolerance for nonsense. That's how they describe her.

[A]

Wow. So Chelsea just said they described her as a blonde woman with no tolerance for nonsense. She still very much could be black. You know, we love. We love a Mary J. Blonde in the community.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Get your auntie Boots out and start stepping. So we don't know yet, but he befriended her dog, treating her beloved pet to a McDonald's hamburger. Okay. Smith went as far as showing his devotion by tattooing Sabrina on his body above another tattoo on his shoulder.

[B]

Hmm.

[A]

Starting to sound even more black. Hmm.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Looking back, she looked like Rachel Dolezale.

[A]

You found her. Oh, is she black? Oh, let me see. Okay. No, she's not. So according to Dunlap, smith got a $250,000 life insurance policy on her and then all of a sudden desired to go on a cruise.

[B]

My man say, bae, I want to pull out an insurance policy for you. Then say, let's go swimming. I'm gonna be like, I canceled the policy. It was too expensive for my pockets. I'm good. He was about to Start killing these women.

[A]

I think he might have. He was like, it was gonna be a boat accident. He was like, boo. I put out a life insurance policy and support.

[B]

Surprise.

[A]

Skydiving tickets. Let's go. You jump first.

[B]

Oh, I'm about to dive in. No.

[A]

Damn. So, but shortly after booking the cruise, he discovered a tumor and had to get it removed. Luckily, he actually got sick and the cruise didn't happen. But when I look back, I honestly believe he was gonna throw me off the cruise. And to prove to my family and probably the police, they would probably think, like, oh, he loved her, and see my name, like, her name is on my back. So basically, he got this tattoo of her that says, like, oh, you know, he's dedicated, he loves her. And then he was gonna throw her ass off the boat like an acrimony, except she wasn't gonna get back on. And he was gonna be like, look, I got her tattooed on me. I would never kill her.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Wow. God really helps you out, Ms. Dunlap. He really helps you out. So Dunlap left Smith after learning he told her dad and brother in law that she was the one frivolously spending money. And then she says she found out that he was using her credit cards to pay his medical bills. Like, oh, it took you too long to find that out, sis.

[B]

What did he have wrong?

[A]

He had a tumor.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, got it.

[A]

Yeah. So she later got more information when her mother was contacted through LinkedIn by one of Smith's wives. See, that's how you know his other wives were snooping. When you start snooping on LinkedIn, when you start trying to find people on Venmo and any app possible, that's when you know you really snooping. So the woman snooping reached out to Dunlap and said that she decided that he wasn't gonna get away with this shit and that she had filed charges for identity theft. Dunlap says that meeting the others Smith wronged has helped her mentally recover. So now they probably got like a sorority or like, you know, like a girls group. They, they play bunko on Tuesday nights and drink white wine.

[B]

Girl, beefing with my enemy makes you a friend of me. In this case, yes, absolutely.

[A]

Another victim claimed he left her with 750, 000 worth of debt after he convinced her to start a business with him and then had her co sign on a home mortgage. Smith didn't pay the mortgage for months and hid the past due notices so the women had no idea how much debt she was Collecting until he fled. When the marriage things come. Everything he does is legal. There's nothing they can do to him because he actually marries them. Then it's his community property. She explained. So he was actually marrying these women, like, on paper, and then being like, let's get a house. Give me $750,000. Let's open a Krispy Kreme.

[B]

So when he divorced them before the next one, like, was there not, you know.

[A]

Yeah, it feels like a little big me going on here. I don't know how he was getting away with this. So this is him getting caught sort

[B]

of at this point. Every time he walked up to the justice of the piece, they were probably like, hey, welcome back.

[A]

He getting discounts? That was. Yes. Let me get the three for five for this year, man. You know, also, I'm trying to think of, like, the kind of guy you have to be to. You have to have, like, some kind of personality disorder or something to constantly be creating relationships with people and making them seem meaningful and then running off on them or stealing their. Like, he was maybe about to dabble in murder.

[B]

I minus the murder. He sound like a typical nigga.

[A]

Perhaps a little bit. Yo. The murder's funny to me, though. He was like, hey, girl, I got us these Carnival cruise tickets. We about to go.

[B]

And that's the part that throws me for a loop. I'm like, wait a minute.

[A]

He's like, boo, come out here to the balcony. Let's get a picture by the ocean. Yeah. No, get closer. That's crazy. Closer to the ocean,

[B]

right? Next thing you know, she's over. Yes. Mm. Mm.

[A]

Love overboard. Love overboard. Okay, so I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I did that. So getting caught. So Smith was arrested in 2017 for identity theft and forgery in Johnson County, Kansas, after his former fiance, Sabrina Dunlap, told police he had maxed out her credit cards and drained their joint savings account. Smith had also taken out a fraudulent credit application in her name without authorization. She believed he had taken her driver's license, likely while she was sleeping, copied it to gain the information he needed to fill out the implication, and then forged her signature at the bottom. Damn, sis. Smith allegedly used her name to purchase two cars.

[B]

Two.

[A]

Just the audacity here. Like this, man.

[B]

Bold Smith.

[A]

The audacity of Smith. Okay, I know we had the audacity of Obama, but now we have the audacity of Dick Smith because. Wow.

[B]

Pretty much.

[A]

Two cars, open credit cards, and took out cable service in four Kansas City area apartments. So he Was over here paying for. So he's probably setting up his next, like, victim. Yeah, he was like, boo, I got that comcast for you.

[B]

Yes. He was literally like taking stuff from the prior to impress his bigger fish, the next one. Because women love men who can match their energy. Yes, he.

[A]

Right. He was proactive. He's.

[B]

I always say if scammers put the energy that they put into scamming into actually growing a business and stuff, they could be multi millionaires legally. I always say that.

[A]

Right. But what are laws really? You know what I mean? Like, there's so many people who are multi millionaires illegally, but they're hiding assets, they're skimming money. You can't become a billionaire without killing people, either inadvertently or on purpose.

[B]

That's what I heard.

[A]

You know how many people didn't die working for Jeff Bezos? And they be sweeping it under the rug. So, you know, it's. You know what I mean? So it's all a dirty game. But yeah, you're right. I mean, you could at least gain more money and probably stay out of jail if he were to use these skills in a positive way. So he eventually pled guilty to the identity theft charge in exchange for dropping the forgery charge and was sentenced to death. Ten months in the clink when he violated his probation. Yep. Just 10 months. You know, okay, right. We get, we get a lot more. When he violated his probation in 2019 after failing to report and failing to pay basically restitution, his probation was extended into August 29 with the help of a private investigator. He was eventually arrested again in Knoxville, Tennessee, new state for violating his probation and was sentenced to 180 days in jail. Still, not a lot. Investigators found 11 marriage certificates.

[B]

Eleven she was. And no, no divorce papers.

[A]

Yeah, that's all I'm saying. He was saying I do all the time. He's like, I do, I do, I do.

[B]

Oh yes, I got that. Keenan and Kel Orange soda.

[A]

That was his marriage. Orange soda was his marriage. So investigators also found like the 11 marriage certificates. While looking at Smith's background, one investigator said, I don't know how one person can juggle so much, Adding that a number of these marriages overlapped and when he was even dating people on the side at the same damn time. Smith's time behind bars was short lived. He apparently already he's back on the streets and supposedly dating again. But his victims believe the publicity of the docu series is going to ruin his dating life. And they are wrong.

[B]

I know they're wrong. Because I just told you that article say he's not done. There's plenty of women like, mind you, I never heard of this man. So if I was to cross him, I'd be like, oh, sugar daddy vibes. Next thing you know, he passed me my wallet.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You like, oh, I just got free Time Warner. And then for real and we going on a cruise.

[B]

Yep, yep. Girl. He said he gonna take me on a cruise because he saw I was in Mexico, he wanted to take me

[A]

to Cabo, and he got us a joint life insurance policy. Mine is some reason worth more, but

[B]

that is the funny thing is he probably was like, oh, I already have mine, but I think it's important. And it's like, oh, he trying to boss me up. He getting me life insurance. Like, girl, I never had a man give me life insurance. He really care, right?

[A]

And it's like, that's. I. I don't know when is the right time for anybody to talk about life insurance. I guess after you're married. But it would feel weird if they were like, hey, baby, I just want to tell you I love you and we should get life insurance together.

[B]

Yes, we should get life insurance because you never know what could happen. And I just want to make sure your family is good, you know, I want to make sure that your kids are good and secure. Because yes, you're working hard, but if you're not here, who's going to be the provider? I know you provide for your family, all that stuff. You see how good I made that sound? You was over you thinking about buying a policy yourself.

[A]

I was, I was about to make you the benefactor. I was like, you know, this makes a lot of sense.

[B]

See, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

This must be my third date combo. I really.

[B]

And just listen and what? During the pandemic. Oh, girl, right? This is time.

[A]

It's like, look, normally I will wait a few years, but you know, it's Covid times right now, baby. So I just feel like in order to feel secure in this relationship, how many years to go down the state farm, Jake?

[B]

Yep, yep, yep. Oh, well guys, don't worry, I'll do it for you.

[A]

Lala now does insurance. You heard it here first.

[B]

No, all jokes aside, I used to work at insurance before I got into this whole thing. And the number one. Yes. And my boss was always trying to pitch life insurance because it was the most expensive policy, so the commission was higher.

[A]

Did you go to people's houses to slang the insurance or were you like, no, No, I was like in the building.

[B]

No, when they get cars and you know, do their, do their cards and house, you know, it'll be like, okay, well, obviously you have assets, you know, you want to make sure you're able to pay for them. You should go, do you have life insurance, girl? And half of them will be like the ones who was always interested, always had a health ailment that kind of like ruined their chances of getting it because they don't want somebody that's already going to need it. They like healthy people, you know. But yeah, girl, it was very much so. A thing just like how he was selling it to them. It's crazy.

[A]

Well, guys, if you, if you see anybody named Richard Scott Smith, which we should have known, he's got a very shady sounding name, run the other way or don't, you know, become his sugar mama, have a great time. He probably lands some good peen because people feel real distracted.

[B]

If I met a man like that, I would real life play. And I knew what it was. I would try to go along with it just to see if I could scam him. But what if I see he was getting in too much over my head? I go ahead and be like, all right now. Because the thing is at the beginning, he be. He be swooning them and then stuff start turning. So the thing is they be getting in too deep. They need to take what they could get. And then they disappear on him. Don't let the man come to your house. Every time he'd be like, well, let's go back to your house. Let's go to yours. Let's go to yours.

[A]

No, let's go to your place. Yeah, no. Oh, my place is a mess. You know, we can just sit in the car then. That's okay.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

Turn the air.

[B]

Yes. For real. Yes. I can massage your hairline so it could possibly grow less. Yeah, less than some time.

[A]

You still stuck on that man's hairline?

[B]

Girl, I can't get over it. I ain't never seen nothing like that.

[A]

Oh, Lord. Well, all right, guys, we're gonna take one more quick break for non scam advertisements and we'll be back with the end of the show, robbery and fraud. All right, guys. And we are back. And this is my least favorite part of the show because this is when I'm gonna have to let Lala go.

[B]

Soon. I gotta leave. It was getting so good. I ain't had no people to people interaction in a long time. Same.

[A]

Honestly, this podcast has been saving my life. Because it's like, I get to talk to people and, like, laugh and kick it. It's so nice. Because it's not.

[B]

I feel like we in a kickback right now, and I'm loving it.

[A]

Yes. I love to hear that. So scammer of the week is former Trump advisor Steve Bannon. He's charged with misusing donations for Trump's border wall. So, I mean, listen, y', all, please go early. Please vote. And if you vote for Trump, stay

[B]

home, relax, take a break.

[A]

You deserve it. It's been a wild news cycle. You don't need to vote. But everyone else, please go vote. So through a viral GoFundMe page and other fundraising efforts, Bannon, along with Brian Kulfich, an Air Force veteran who lost both of his legs and his right arm on deployment in Iraq in 2004. Andrew. I don't know. Why did we need to know that? Anyway, Andrew Baladato and Timothy Shea raised more than 220 million in private donations for people who were told that a hundred percent of their coins were going straight to the wall. They said, from your wallet to the wall.

[B]

Hey,

[A]

all these racist crawl. They said it was about to be lit. Oh, I love it. So they all face charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. I love a good wire fraud. And conspiracy to commit money laundering in connection with. We build the wall. I need to start my own wall fund. But the thing is, like, if I start a GoFundMe for a wall, I am actually going to build a child. The only issue is I don't really know how to build a wall. So, you know, I'm gonna get some bricks, and it's gonna start off small.

[B]

I'm gonna tell you what. I would like to have a wall fund, too, but I want it to be my vaginal wal. Walls have been ran through. I need to rebuild them, and vinegar ain't doing a trick. Okay? So if y' all would like, please feel free to donate to my vaginal wall. Fun.

[A]

Now, how do people know that the money went to the walls?

[B]

The next guy who get to hit it can verify that. That. That the walls are officially built and now intact.

[A]

That we built the wall. Yes. Yes.

[B]

Guys, I'm just playing. Let me stop for my man. Kill me.

[A]

No, we don't want that. No, these are all jokes, guys. Y' all know that, so. Y' all know that. So a U.S. attorney in New York charged the men with improperly diverting more than $1.3 million for their personal use. So, okay, they said 25 mil for the wall. And then they said, we just gonna take 1.3 for us, that's not that bad. Even before the charges, some donors had been raising questions about the project's progress and demanding proof and photographs of new construction. Show me a video of the wall being built. I'll punny up my next donation, reads one angry Facebook comment. Where is the rest of the money going? Reads another. Actions are probably more like, where's the rest of the money going? Show me a video being on the wall. Keeping them rounds out. Anyway, one week before his arrest, Kofidge was still on crowdfunding pages asking donors for more money to meet new deadlines. A spokesman, GoFundMe, stated that hosting platform had been cooperating with the investigation has already returned roughly $6 million. So here's the thing. The wall is supposed to be built by the government. So why y' all dumbasses over here even giving money to whoever the fuck online Talking about, you know, we gonna build the wall ourselves. We got six. We got.

[B]

I'm not going to lie. If I disguise myself as a racist person who was a Trump supporter, I could easily, like, build a following and make people give money. A lot of these people really be racist rich people who have nothing better to do so they don't have a problem. Oh, he said he going to build it. All right, cool. Send them 5,000. That's perfectly fine by me. Long as they get built. Like, they just be bored. You know, people with money really be having a lot of time on their hands. True.

[A]

And you know what's weird to me, I guess is like, you know, like, Candace Owens started out as a kind of Democrat, left leaning person, and then she went full right ring when she realized, like, that's where the coins were. You know, I've been seeing a lot of Trump merch. That's like, I saw Trump earrings that were like rhinestone heart shaped earrings. And then they had Trump I'm not. They had Trump written across them. And there's Trump necklaces and Trump socks and Trump shoes. I cannot make this up. And I was like, what if I just got into the business of making Trump merch? And just like. But they don't know it's coming from a black person.

[B]

You would. You would really make money. I could get my page will probably lose stupid, crazy amount of followers.

[A]

Trump fanny packs, Trump panties. And they put the grab him by the pussy on the front. You know what I mean?

[B]

I got that. That's good, that's good, that's good, that's Good.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You got man wills over here turning right. I can make some stuff that look like it's about to be Trump merch. And then when you get closer, you realize that it's not. And then a fine print on the web website, honey, is actually it says this, so be careful while purchasing. But instead of it being in, like, 28. Size 28, fine, it'll be in size 2. It was on there.

[A]

You just had to zoom in. You didn't zoom in.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, okay, Trump belly rings. At least let me get, like, a little maga that we could put at the bottom of people belly rings. Trump toe rings. I think these are things that the Trump community would really enjoy.

[B]

You could, at this point, do Trump anal plug. You could do the anal beads.

[A]

I'm gonna come out with this big

[B]

industry amongst people with money.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[B]

You could come out with Trump's spray tan.

[A]

Oh, now, see, that's what Donald Trump should really be trying to hawk right now in the White House.

[B]

Cheeto Orange.

[A]

Cheeto orange. Yes. Bronzer bronze discs.

[B]

Yeah, that would go crazy. SPF 70.

[A]

Oh, yes. And yep, you right. Put some sunscreen in it. That's good. You know, a pestle and mortar so people can grind up their Adderall. Just snort it and classy. Real classy.

[B]

Like, girl, you getting too good. Too good.

[A]

See, I really wish I could use these powers for evil, which I feel like we could have a great company of just, like, evil merch for, like,

[B]

evil people owned by two black women. Honey, they were faint once revealed, right?

[A]

We never revealed.

[B]

Black women become millionaires. And then we post up like cheese. They'd be like, oh, hell no.

[A]

We just want to thank all the racists out there for supporting black queens.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. Well, Lala, this has been a blast. It's so wonderful having you, girl.

[B]

It has been extremely good, and I appreciate you for having me on here. This was really, really good.

[A]

Yes. So we always ask people, where do you want to be found? Not where people can find you, but where do you want to be found? So anything you want to plug your socials?

[B]

Everything. I want to be found on here. Sunset Boulevard after 10pm Shaking my left cheek. I'm just playing. You can find me in my podcast at the salon, honey. On Stitcher, Apple, on freaking Spotify, everywhere. The salon with Lala Milan and on Instagram at Lalamalan. And feel free to look at my IMDb if you want to watch me on TV. It depends on whatever kind of mood you in, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

The girl's got variety, okay? She's got all.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

I love. I thought you were so fun in Boomerang. I love. I love that they made you a stripper. But you're, like, the coolest, like, hippest stripper that, like, it's, you know, it's so good.

[B]

I got to live out my fantasy on tv. I was enamored. It was lit.

[A]

It was very lit. And you're so funny in that. And I love your videos. Guys, if you're not following lala, which you probably already are, but if you aren't, you really should, girl.

[B]

I would love for you guys to step into my world. If you like this, you'll definitely. You could relate to the content that I post.

[A]

Yes, guys, as always, Lacey Mosley. D I V A L A C I Diva. Lacey on all platforms. If you want to write into the show, snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure the scams retire so we don't fuck up your bag. That's scamgodesspodmail.com and that's scam Goddess Pod on all platforms. Congregation, stay.

[B]

Steven.

[A]

Scam Goddess.