The Maga Manipulator with Tahir Moore

Summary

Scam Goddess — "The Maga Manipulator" with Tahir Moore

Release Date: January 19, 2021
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Tahir Moore

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Episode Overview

In this lively and hilarious episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley welcomes comedian Tahir Moore for a deep dive into the art of scamming—both historic and contemporary. The episode focuses on the story of Josh Hall, a 21-year-old door dash driver and MAGA supporter from Pennsylvania, who managed to scam Trump supporters by impersonating Trump's less-famous family members on Twitter, spreading wild conspiracy theories, and soliciting cash donations. Along the way, Laci and Tahir share personal scam stories, dissect the ever-evolving landscape of digital fraud, and riff on the absurdities of internet culture, the gig economy, and the American political grift.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Catching Up & Personal Scams

[00:55 - 08:55]

• Pandemic Living: Laci and Tahir talk about home life during COVID, the weirdness of needing extra space, and the challenges of sharing workspaces with family.
• Childhood Scams:
  • Tahir tells the heartbreaking and hilarious story of being “scammed with a kid” at age 14—menaced into believing he was a father for four years, paying for daycare and working at a junkyard, only to find out it wasn’t his child.

    “To find out he wasn’t mine when I turned 18. So yes, I got scammed. Yeah, I got scammed hard.” — Tahir [06:10]

  • The conversation segues into how kids are freeloaders until they turn 13, when they finally become cool.
• Working Kids: They joke about Blue Ivy Carter as the gold standard—getting a Grammy nomination as a child.

  “Let Blue Ivy…let your kids see that that baby is working. So you can be like, look at this baby…you need to get employed.” — Laci [09:20]

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2. What's Hot in Fraud: Listener Scam Letter

[10:24 - 18:13]

• The Apple Scam: Listener Joshua receives a fake call from “Tim Apple”—the classic tech support scam—but sniffs out the fraud thanks to caller ID spoofing knowledge (VOIP).

  “‘Check your caller ID, you’ll see I’m from Apple Customer Service.’” — Joshua’s scammer [15:14] “If you knew that he wasn’t Tim Apple, why didn’t you hang up? See, this is the issue with this damn show—y’all like scams now!” — Laci [15:24]

• Cell Phones & Telecom Scams: The duo reminisce and roast early-2000s scams like per-minute call billing and text message limits, giving nods to how companies created fake scarcity.

  “Can you believe we let cell phone companies scam us for that fucking long…like there wasn’t nothing about minutes. They just made that shit up.” — Laci [11:39]

• Side Tangents: Wingstop orders and tangential hilarity (skip for content purposes).

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3. Innovation in Scamming

[19:19 - 20:38]

• Scam Evolution:
  • Tahir points out that scam emails and fake logos have become more sophisticated, requiring deeper scrutiny.

  “The Facebook scammers now…they using the real logos. They’d be like, oh, y’all getting better, better. Okay. Now we like to really read.” — Tahir [19:19]

  • Laci observes that scamming as an art is constantly innovating and becoming more professional, noting nostalgia for “easier” scam eras (80s/90s).
• Tahir’s ‘Ethical’ Hustle:
  • Tahir admits selling lemonhead candy as fake crack rocks to addicts in his youth, joking it helped the community by not being real drugs.

  “Listen, I’m not the person that’s going to ruin my community—I’m trying to help them get off of it and at the same time make a little money.” — Tahir [20:10]

  • Laci approves, but teases Tahir for his “bootleg Jay-Z” scam history.

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4. Historic Hoodwink: The Maga Manipulator — Josh Hall

[24:47 - 54:02]

• Who is Josh Hall?
  • A 21-year-old DoorDash driver and self-declared MAGA devotee from Mechanicsburg, PA, who became a force online by impersonating Trump family members—including Trump’s brother, sister, and even the COVID advisor, Dr. Birx.
  • He amassed 160,000+ followers across these fake MAGA accounts, mixing conspiracy theories, political commentary, and donation requests.
• Signature Scams:
  • Hall spread rumors like “JFK Jr. is alive and returning as VP” and “the government’s microchip plans,” directly fueling QAnon and right-wing internet conspiracies [30:14 - 30:38].
  • Genius tactic: He picked Trump relatives without real Twitter accounts (researched via Wikipedia) to impersonate, drawing less scrutiny.
  • Used influence to direct followers to “the organization,” raising $7,384 for a fake cause, never specifying details.

  “He didn’t even say the name of the organization. He just said ‘the organization.’” — Tahir [50:17]

• Why It Worked:
  • MAGA loyalists’ hunger for community/echo chambers amplified scams (“Can we talk about a loyal fanbase?” — Laci [54:02])
  • The lines between parody and earnestness blur online—users retweet “to dunk” but still amplify nonsense

  “When you retweet shit to dunk on people, you’re giving them what they want…Their videos getting more views, their bills are getting paid.” — Laci [38:30]

• The Big Reveal:
  • Trump himself eventually retweets and thanks the fake account [55:04]
  • Twitter suspends Hall’s accounts but no legal consequences at episode time; it's unclear if donors got refunds

  “Josh Hall is still at large, guys…it doesn’t look like there’s been any reprimanding yet…pretending to be Trump’s whole family tree.” — Laci [60:45]

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5. Petty Crimes, Penance, and Political Grift

[40:32 - 48:35]

• Petty Acts:

  • Tahir’s commitment to pettiness: He once left a handwritten “you’re a horrible driver” card for someone who cut him off—“Eat a hot turd sandwich. I hope you stub your big toe.”
  • Laci admits to “scamming” on her college tours to recruit Black students (“I just wanted more Black people at Pitt, so I was like, how do I get them here? I gotta lie…” [26:35])—Tahir dubs her the Joker.

• Pay-to-Play Politics:

  • The normalization of constant donation requests from political campaigns AND grifters.

  “Every time I turn around, everybody asks me for money. I gave Joe Biden money. I gave Elizabeth Warren money. I gave Kamala Harris money…for what?” — Laci [51:24]

  • Digital tip jars, CashApp scams, and aggressive payment requests.

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6. Scammer of the Week: The Food Delivery Email Phishing Scam

[61:57 - 67:22]

• How It Works:
  • You receive an email referencing your recent food delivery, offering a coupon or reward in exchange for completing a survey.
  • Survey starts innocuous, ends with personal-information requests (birthdate, account numbers, even social security numbers).

  “After multiple pages…you just wanna finish it and get your reward, right? That’s how they do it. They exasperate you a little bit…” — Laci [63:36]

  • Results: No prize, just a scammer harvesting your data for identity theft.
• Prevention Tips:
  • Always check the sender’s email domain.
  • Don’t fill out personal info from email links—legit apps prompt you in-app, not via email.

  “If the survey…is legitimate, and they’re gonna give you some coin, maybe. But for the most part, it’s free information—they should have to pay you!” — Laci [64:24]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On being an “ethical scammer”:

“There’s no such thing as an ethical scammer.” — Tahir [05:15]

Laci’s college scam:

“Honestly, there was really nothing in it for me other than I just wanted more Black people at Pitt, so I was like, how do I get them here? I gotta lie to them.” — Laci [26:35]

On Trump’s impact:

“He scammed the shit out of the country. Who scammed the shit out of the country? Robbery.” — Tahir [33:23]

On the ridiculousness of conspiracies:

“Who just comes up with the time…what can I start? Oh–JFK!” — Tahir [30:49]

On Trump supporters’ loyalty:

“Can we talk about a loyal fanbase? Because anytime I’ll be making mistakes on here, y’all be correcting me…but what if I just had fans who would let me do anything?” — Laci [54:02]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |--------------------------------------------|--------------| | Catching Up & Personal Scam Stories | 00:55–08:55 | | Listener Letter – Apple Scam | 10:24–18:13 | | Evolution of Scamming | 19:19–20:38 | | Tahir’s Lemonhead Hustle | 19:43–20:57 | | Historic Hoodwinks: Josh Hall (Main Story) | 24:47–60:45 | | Petty Acts & Pay-to-Play Politics | 40:32–51:42 | | Food Delivery Phishing (Scammer of Week) | 61:57–67:22 |

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Episode Flow & Tone

• Playful, irreverent, and conspiratorial.
• Heavy on witty banter, personal anecdotes with a comedic lens on fraud.
• “No moral lesson, just stay schemin’ and don’t get scammed!”

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Where to Find the Guests

• Tahir Moore: Best found via Instagram, where his Linktree houses all content (More to the Story, Wording is Hard, Zooming with the Homies).
• Laci Mosley: @divalaci on all platforms; ScamGoddessPod for show updates.

“If you want to snitch on your friends and family, just make sure it’s after the scam is retired so we don’t fuck up your bag!” — Laci [69:12]

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Congregation, as always: Stay schemin’!

Transcript

[A]

Scams C. Robbery and Frauds. Scam CA. Robbery and fraud. Scam Goddess. What's poppin, Congregation? It's your girl Lacey, mostly Scam Goddess. And we are back for another installment of Scam Goddess. You know, I was looking at Twitter the other day, and the girls were talking about what's podcast that makes you feel like you talking to your friends, and I was getting a lot of tags. So today we're gonna talk. How is. How y' all day going? Okay. Damn, I'm sorry that happened to you. Or congratulations. Or girl. Leave that, Leave that. They them. Leave that.

[B]

Him.

[A]

Okay. Oh, no. You met somebody. That's lovely. In quarantine. Y' all better get tested. All right. Did we just talk? Do we have a good conversation? I hope so, guys, as always, I am. What? Yes. So excited. See we be talking on here. I hear y' all for our guest today, guys. He is a funny ass, hilarious comedian. You've seen him all over. He has a show on YouTube called wording is Hard and his live show zoom in with the homies and all his hilarious ass videos that he puts up and response videos on Twitter and on Instagram. Guys, we have to hear more.

[B]

Hey, dear. Hi, everyone. How are you guys doing today? Fantastic, I hope. My very cordial voice. Right.

[A]

I guess we should talk to each other now. But I just wanted. I just wanted you guys to feel like I can hear you. I feel like I can. I hear. I heard you. I heard what you said. Oh, gosh. Hi, Tierra. I don't want to ask you, how are you? I hate asking people that, but I like the background where you're zooming from.

[B]

Thank you. Yeah, this is my office. We just moved here. Yeah, we moved here, like, in August. And I love it, but I already feel like we need to move again because it's just. You know what it is? It's like, I didn't expect things to take such a crazy turn during a pandemic, but, like, we've literally started a business to the point where, like, my wife needs an office and I have an office. And so we think it is trying to find like a five bedroom or something. And just doing that because so we can all have our own space independently.

[A]

Yeah, I get that. That's what my parents had to do because they were sharing a very large office. And then it's. My mom's on phone calls all day whether they're necessary for work. Who knows? Cause she just be on there laughing and cracking jokes. I'm like, sis, what is this? Is this job? I don't know if this is job. So we had to con.

[B]

This is job.

[A]

They converted one of the guest bedrooms upstairs to her office. Cause they were like, sis, you need your own space. Right? So I get that.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not good at sharing. We couldn't share an office. We don't even share a bedroom. Like, we have separate bedrooms right now. We just kind of, like, hang out together in the living room. But I don't really. I'm not really good at sharing.

[A]

Wow. I kind of like that.

[B]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[A]

Oh, you joking? I was like, huh?

[B]

I'm kidding.

[A]

I was giving me ideas. I was like, that's what I want.

[B]

Listen, listen. Look, the way that you pause, though, you process it, like, wait, what?

[A]

No, that was no judgment. That was. My wheels turned. I was like, you can get a nigga to just live in your house, but not be like, you just. He have his own room.

[B]

Listen, I've seen houses where, like, I saw a couple pictures. I forgot what they call the type of housing, but it is, like, basically the main housing unit on one side, and then that's like a walkway over the driveway, and then there's, like, another small housing unit right next to it. And, like, this is, like, I guess, essentially for people who love each other. But cohabitating is hard because I know me, I'm a loner. Like, I'll be in my office for, like, 12 hours all day, like, just knocking it out.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And I go down. Yeah, I go down to see them just for food and, like, just to refill my alcohol and my water, and

[A]

I come back up for food and love. For a little food and love.

[B]

Yeah, just that. Just that, man. So, yeah, but I'm excited to be here.

[A]

I'm so excited to have you.

[B]

You were just listening on. What was it? Was it. Is it Hollywood Unlock or the Shade Room? They was like, what are y' all listening to? What podcast are y' all listening to?

[A]

Oh, yes. I was embracing black culture. Don't go Hollywood Unlocked or the Shade. Hey, listen, those are bad sites to be on.

[B]

Hey, listen. But they got followers there. If you got 3.5 million followers checking that post out, you might get 10,000 new followers. So, hey, I don't care. Just long as they know that I'm not putting nothing that out.

[A]

First of all, you're not gonna put no cheeks out. You should put some cheeks out. Get the followers.

[B]

Listen, here's the thing. You can't say, don't put Me on the shade room on Hollywood Unlocked. And the show is called Scam Goddess. Okay. You can't be picky with the outlets with a title like Scam Goddess.

[A]

That's very true. That's one of the things I do love about this show because we can advertise anything and we can say anything. No, but I really am picky about that kind of stuff. It's weird. I'm an ethical scammer. I do find myself like, no, we want to be on the right side of crime. What's the right side of crime?

[B]

That's what we are as an ethical scammer. Okay. There's no such thing as an ethical scammer. Oh my gosh.

[A]

So let's.

[B]

There isn't so here.

[A]

Let's get into it then. Have you ever been scammed or do you consider yourself a mark? Do you like scammers? You said mark.

[B]

I have been scammed. I think I've been scammed before. Yes. I got. I got scammed with a kid.

[A]

Oh, wait.

[B]

Yeah. At 14.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Huh. I was too young to work.

[A]

We didn't have no TV show. We a had no TV show for y' all back then.

[B]

Nothing. Nothing. You understand me? Everybody was just ashamed of me because I was 14 year old father and I had to work at a junkyard to make a little extra money just to be able to buy clothes and diapers. I was catching the bus with my little man, all of that. And to find out he wasn't mine when I turned 18. So yes, I got scammed. Yeah, Yeah. I got scammed hard.

[A]

Oh my God. So for four years you had a son?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't have a son no more.

[B]

Yes, listen, I was paying her. I was working at a junkyard four days a week while I was 14 to make enough money to give her 150 every week, minimum. That's just for daycare. Because she was telling me that the daycare was 300. I'm working four days a week at a junkyard, picking up cans, stripping cars of aluminum, breaking down carburetors for copper, all of this type of stuff. Right. One day I happened to be up there where the daycare was supposedly was. I popped in just to see him and I found out that she was paying $25 a month, not $300 a week. Cause she was on state assistance.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

So for four years I went through a number. She put every scam in the book on your boy. Absolutely. I've been scammed before.

[A]

Oh my goodness. You were like 14. You were a baby yourself. Like in holes, just digging holes. And on the chain gang as a baby, trying to take care of yours. Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, that's a compliment to hear. Cause that means that she knew you weren't the baby daddy, but she knew you were the most respons 14 year old she never met.

[B]

She had so many options in the hood, though. Why me?

[A]

Because you immediately got a job at the junkyard and got on the chain gang and started giving $150 a week. She picked the right person. I wish. I wish you were. I wish you were the father, but do you have kids now?

[B]

I have one daughter. Yeah. I got a 15 year old daughter. Yes.

[A]

Yes. I didn't want to be a creeper.

[B]

I'm like, I was pretty sure I've

[A]

seen her on your Instagram. Yes.

[B]

Done. I'm done. Get out of here.

[A]

You gonna have some more kids.

[B]

I can't wait till she get out.

[A]

Kids are the biggest scam, Lacy.

[B]

Don't you put that devil on me.

[A]

I am. I'm putting it on you right now. Don't you put that devil on me, you steely fingers. I'm putting it on you right now.

[B]

Don't you put that evil on. Don't put that on me.

[A]

When you have more little freeloaders, okay? Kids are unemployed and you were an employed child. So I'm proud of you, you know? Cause these kids need to get to work.

[B]

I have a whole. I have a whole line of T shirts. One of my designs is literally Fuck Them Kids and seen that with every fiber of my being. Listen, they suck because I'm not kidding. Like, I don't like, like the idea of kids. Wonderful. Same with the idea of marriage. But both of them suck, okay? The only thing about marriage is that you get to decide what your rules are, right? Because marriage is super outdated as far as the rules and everything. So, like, you and your spouse should sit down and discuss, like, what it's gonna take for one of y' all to walk away, all that type of stuff. But with kids, they just suck until they're like 13 when y' all start listening to the same type of music. Kids just suck up until that point. They suck.

[A]

But kids. All I have to say is, like, if you have a kid, I hope they're working, okay? Take an example from Blue Ivy. Beyonce had Blue Ivy and she had that baby on the track as a baby. She is the youngest person to ever record music. Blue who was just like. They was like, get in Here and get to work. Like, in between these feedings, you gonna

[B]

hop in the booth. She just got. I think she just got nominated too. I think Blue just got. She's the youngest Grammy nominated.

[A]

Oh, is it for Hair Love? Because she read Hair Love by Matthew Cherry. She read that and it's on Apple and it's on itunes. Guys, check that out. Read that to your kids. Let Blue Ivy. And then let your kids see that that baby is working. So you can be like, look at this baby. She like eight or nine. You. You need to get employed. Okay, come on.

[B]

Yes. Come on, you slow. You need to. You need to pick it up. Yeah. Blue Ivy Carter receives Grammy nomination. Blue Ivy Carter receives Grammy nomination for Brown Skinned Girl.

[A]

She was singing in that. See, Blue be working. Y' all need to get, like, get these children. Get them employed. Okay, we don't got time for this. So, guys, let's get into our first segment. What's hot and fraud? This is where we warn listeners about a pop, a new scam, or more often than not, read your letters and as always, scamgottispodmail.com snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure your bag is retired because again, we don't wanna fuck it up. Yes. So today we have a. We have a listener letter from. I need a name to hear.

[B]

This is Joshua.

[A]

Joshua. Okay, so Joshua says, this is a story that happened to me a couple months ago towards the start of the pandemic. Yes, the beginning of the Panasonic. That was when we really started to see the scams elevate, innovate, you know what I mean? People were like, this is a new opportunity. I love when that happens for scammers because they're. They're innovators. Every scammer put on a black turtleneck and they got to work, they got to thinking Silicon Valley. So this scam, they said, usually. Joshua says, usually I have no patience for answering numbers. I don't know. I don't do that shit. It's usually people who want things and I don't want to give things. Says I have kids. So I rarely use the house phone. That's mainly given to doctor's offices and my oldest daughter's friends. And then in parentheses, it says, 11 year olds don't need damn cell phones. Josh, why are you black? Does your daughter have a cell phone?

[B]

To her, yes. She's had a cell phone since she was, like, eight.

[A]

Yeah, see, you gotta get it, baby. It's a cell phone. At least back in the day, When I got my cell phone, I think I was nine. But it was back when you didn't have minutes, remember?

[B]

Anytime minutes.

[A]

So I'd be like, don't call me until it's after nine. Don't call till after nine.

[B]

After nine o'. Clock. That's when. Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Can you believe we let cell phone companies scam us for that fucking long. Talk about we ain't got enough minutes for everybody. Like, there wasn't nothing about minutes. They just made that shit up.

[B]

It was absolutely made up. It was absolutely. We have been getting played for years, but neither here or there, they definitely got over on us. They definitely got over, right?

[A]

And they used to charge for per text message that you sent and we ain't got enough text to be flying in the air for everybody. Okay, so you're right.

[B]

It's like, what, y' all ain't got enough towers? Well, how. How am I limited on this? I know when the first. The first company came out that was like free everything, unlimited, everything. They was like, oh, you finna just up the game for everybody, huh?

[A]

I'm sure they wanted to fight. I feel like it was T Mobile's ass. I feel like everybody pulled up Sprint att the from Verizon. They was like, can you hear me now, bitch? Good. Like you ruining everything. We made our whole robbery investment that we made.

[B]

T Mobile was definitely Frank Lucas. T Mobile had the best dope and he was selling it cheaper than his competitors. And it was just like, this is. What are you trying to do to us, man? Come on. Come on. We sell dope together. Come on.

[A]

Then we all got Woke, right? Cause AT&T was like, we only have 30 text messages for each person in the world. And we was like, okay, we believe you. And the fucked up shit about it was the receipt. Receiving side took away from the text because I had a friend named Bobby Kyle. I'm from Texas.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait. You gotta say that name again. What was your friend's name?

[A]

Bobby Kyle. Okay, so Bobby Kyle, he had limited text messages. And I remember all the girls in the school used to fuck with him and they would just text him, hey, Baba Kyle. Hey Baba Kyle. He bubba Kyle and use up all his text messages and one day he cried. It's like, this is bullying. That's how you bullied in the 2000s.

[B]

Oh my God. Oh, well, really quickly, this is gonna be hella off topic and hella random for your listeners. You're in la, right?

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Okay, I need you to send me your Wingstop order. And your addy, like at some point. As soon as possible. Cause today is Wingstop Wednesday and I'm about. Oh, Lord, I buy all my guest Wingstop.

[A]

Oh, Lord, there's. Okay, there is a Wingstop nearby. Wow. Wow. We're doing this. Yeah, so I'll give you that off there, but so see, tangents, guys. You never know where we're gonna go. I'm gonna get Wingstop. Should I get lemon pepper? They don't do it wet. Cause it's Los Angeles, but I'm gonna get lemon pepper.

[B]

You gotta get that hot lemon pepper though, man.

[A]

I don't want no hot lemon pepper. I just want the lemon and the pepper.

[B]

It's just the original hot with the lemon pepper seasoning on it. That's too much sodium.

[A]

Y' all have my pressure up.

[B]

That's why you only. You eat it once a month. You can't eat this shit every day.

[A]

All right, so where were we? 11 year old cell phone, right, right.

[B]

11 year old cell phone, right? Right.

[A]

So she got a house phone, right? She said, don't play on my house phone. That's what Joshua said. He said I had already avoided a number of calls from unknown numbers, but when I saw the caller id, I had to answer. This man on the line told me that he was from Apple and my iPhone and Apple account had been hacked. And I gasped in shock. Not the Apple. Okay. He said, hello, Tim Apple speaking. So I asked him how he knew. The man said, well, miss, if you check your caller id, you will see that I'm from Apple customer service. I said, no, you aren't Joshua. Now, if you knew that he wasn't Tim Apple, why did you hang up? See, this is the issue with this damn show is y' all like scams now. Y' all like, let me stay on the line and see what happens. Everybody likes.

[B]

Everybody like, likes a little danger. You like a little danger. Just a little bit. You want to flirt with it.

[A]

We listen, we are in a panoramic. And I have been doing just reckless. I sent a horny voice memo to somebody that I definitely shouldn't have sent to just to feel something, to feel alive.

[B]

Listen, why do you think. Why do you think? Guys put the tip in. Guys put the tip in just like little. Just a little. Ah, get off of that.

[A]

See, we know about that. The tip is a scam, okay? Don't let nobody get near you with their penis. Cause you know what they trying to do with it. They talking about, oh, I'm rub it on the side. I'm just trying to tell them to touch the thigh a little bit. We know where you're going. We know what's happening.

[B]

You won't even know I got a shaft. Okay, just. Just a. Just a quick.

[A]

Oh, yeah. We gonna put an R rated on this one for the folks who listen with their cheerings, okay. Because they cuss all the time on here. People be listening with they cheering. I have. I had one of my favorite list. She sent me a video of her baby singing the theme song. I said, why your baby listening? I love you and your beautiful baby, but we. I am not for the cheering.

[B]

No.

[A]

But also have your children listen on separate devices so we can get the. I'm trying to be the euphoria. I want the kids to watch cuz my sister be watching Euphoria. I was like, y' all be watching that. They do. And that show is.

[B]

I don't. Go ahead.

[A]

Very nudity anyway, so.

[B]

Very, very nudity.

[A]

Very nudity show. They be doing lots of nudities on there. Back to Joshua, who's on the phone with Tim Apple. So Tim Apple was like, I'm from Apple. And then Joshua was like, no, you aren't. He insisted again, the man on the phone that he was, and told me to look up the Apple customer service number. I told him my name was showing up on my caller ID and he needed to be more careful entering numbers into his voip. Okay, so you hit him with, I know exactly what's going on. So a voip, for those of you who are new to the show because we talk about it so much, is basically like a system that allows you to pretend to have someone else's phone number. So you can enter all this stuff into a vi op. And then when you call someone through it, it shows the number that you want them to see, not your actual number. So you can make it the security office, you can make it the police station, you can make it Tim Apple. So Joshua's up on game. The man paused. Joshua says, and then said, have a good day and hung up on me.

[B]

Good day.

[A]

Politeness of. He was like this. Okay, I've been found out. Yeah. Okay, well, be blessed. Josh says, my thoughts and prayers are with this poor gentleman. I hope he gets his together at some point. Oh, I. Yeah, I feel for this scammer because, you know, he probably had a good thing going. And then somebody call him out with the specifics, bro.

[B]

The specifics. Yeah, yeah, good. That's what. Listen, I'd be glad. I'd be happy when scammers get caught to a certain degree, because it's like you knew now you knew. Sometimes they don't even be trying. I will say they're getting better with like the Facebook and Instagram scammers. Like Facebook scammers now. Like if you get the email, they got the actual address down there. Now they using the real logos. They'd be like, oh, y' all getting better. Better. Okay. All right. Now we like to really read because at first, yeah, at first you just notice you're like, this F is upside down. There's no way this is Facebook. Right? But now, now, oh, I gotta actually read to make sure this is legit or it isn't. So right.

[A]

They're getting. That's what I love about scamming is there's constant innovation. Because it used to be so easy to scam. Like you used to be able to, like in the 80s, you know, when the computers was green and shit, or like real heavy. Like you used to be able to go in and just say you were anybody who. Who's gonna check you, boo. And now we have so much more technology. So the evolution is really what, you know, I'm thoroughly impressed with. You're laughing at me right now to hear. Why are you laughing at me?

[B]

Because you're such a fan of sc. I've never scammed a hard working person in my life. The only people I've scammed were dope fiends. I used to use lemon heads. I would suck them down to just the white part and I used to tell them those were rocks and I would make like 10, 20 off of that.

[A]

Now see, that's different type of scamming. That's worse. Not you out here selling lemon seeds. This is the most bootleg Jay Z come up story I've ever heard in my life.

[B]

Listen, I'm not the person that's gonna ruin my community. I'm trying to help them get off of it and at the same time make a little money. What I'm doing is better in the community. Cause I'm not filling it with actual crack.

[A]

I don't know if that's better in the community. Those people wanted crack and you did not deliver.

[B]

They out here smoking lemon seeds, lemon heads, okay? The candy lemon head, you suck the yellow off of it or chew it off of it.

[A]

Started already.

[B]

Listen, you could just bite it too. You ain't gotta suck on it. You can bite the little yellow parts off of.

[A]

There's way too much work there to be doing to sell fake Crack just biting lemon heads.

[B]

Listen, listen. You gonna tell a kid who loves lemon heads anyway that it's too much work to eat lemon heads and get $20 for eating lemon heads? No.

[A]

Oh, God. I hope this was to support your not son. I hope you were doing this to support your not son. Okay, Cuz I gotta start selling lemon head crack. Cause I have a not son.

[B]

Your not son.

[A]

A couple things before we go to break. I do want to say yes here. I am a huge fan of scammers, and I have to fan out a little bit because Frank Colombo Jr. For those of you guys who know Frank Colombo Jr. Frank Colombo's like, I think this is his nephew, Joey Colombo's nephew. But he was in the documentary McMillions. And we talk about McMillions on here. I love that scam so much. The McDonald's robbery scam. And so his nephew who's on the dock, reached out and was like, has heard the show. And like, we were tweeting and I was like, losing my shit. Oh, my God. I just. Oh, I love scammers and I get to talk to them. It's like, oh, my God, it's happening. So I am a real fan. I fanned out super hard. So, guys, just so you know, I am in touch with criminals. Okay, let's go to a quick break for some non scam advertisements scam. All right, guys. And we're back. We were talking a little in the break, and I learned that Tahir was the only black man in the hood playing tennis. He was the author ash of his time.

[B]

Yeah. But yes, I played tennis. I played tennis and I played six instruments.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

My mom put me in private lessons because she did not want me to play any contact sports. She would not let me play basketball. She wouldn't let me play football. And then all I could play was tennis. I had private lessons and I played tennis in high school, and I got a scholarship in college from tennis.

[A]

Yes. Okay. Sierra, I would never know that. That's so dope.

[B]

Nobody would.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

But at the time. At the time, it was not cool because I was in tennis. I had tennis class in the summertime and I had all city band, but I was catching a bus. And because I had to run so fast and so much from one practice to the other, I would be on the bus, the public bus, like the metro bus out here. I would get on the bus with my rollerblades. So I got my. I got my tenor sax case and I got. And I got my tennis bag on my back and I got tennis shoes in there and I got a rollerblades on, so I looked like the biggest mark ever. So it was like, oh, yeah, we could. We could definitely get him.

[A]

You just had too much stuff. You were the bag lady. You was gonna miss your bus. You can't hurry up. You got too much time.

[B]

Hey, listen, I was just trying to get that window seat.

[A]

And listen, if you like Erykah Badu, then you're very impressed with those past three sentences. We did that. All right, guys, we're here. It's time for my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is when we will regale to hear what the famous con or caper will get. His opinions all throughout. As you guys know, I do not read these beforehand. I know what they are. A lot of times I send pictures. I do not read them beforehand because I want to have fun with you guys. I want to be a part of it. Okay? Oh, I got a shout out to Cheryl, Colin and Chelsea and everybody for these pronunciations because, Chad, I not. Y' all know I can't read. Guys, today we're talking about Josh hall. He's a 21 year old food delivery driver and devout Trump supporter in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. I actually know where Mechanicsburg is. Shout out to pit. Hey. I used to give tours of my college and I would make it look real lit because they would like. I would mostly get the black people. So I would try to like it was more black people than it was. It worked too. I once took this black girl, she stayed with me. I took her to an Outkast concert that was happening at cmu, which was up the street, Carnegie Mellon. I took her there. And I've met Big Boy a few times and I love him so much. He's always been so sweet. But this time he was like, oh, if y' all want to come up on stage, come up on stage. You know, we ain't in college. She in high school. I was like, come on, girl, we going on stage. And Big Boy has stopped letting people up. And so then I yelled out, I was like, hey, Big Boy, let us on. I don't know where this New York accent's coming from. And he was like, yeah, yeah, they good. So then he let us on stage and we was twerking with Big Boy and shit. The whitest girl come to Pitt and it was just a sea of white people. And she was like, where the Big Boy concerts? Where's all the stuff you took me to? I was like, oh, girl, I Lied. I was like, we are 2% of this institution.

[B]

Wait, so you've been scamming your whole life? This is just what you do, Lacey?

[A]

Yes, I love robbery and I love fraud.

[B]

Oh, my God. That young lady was bamboozled.

[A]

She was.

[B]

She landed straight.

[A]

She was.

[B]

You literally landed Plymouth Rock on her. You told Plymouth Rock her address, and it just landed on her head. Oh, I'm gonna pray for you. I need your full name, middle name, too, so I can put you on my prayer list.

[A]

Oh, no, don't put me on the prayer list. Not the sick. Oh, no. Yeah, I tricked her. I tricked her real good. She came, too.

[B]

She came to the.

[A]

I did that to a lot of black people who came to pit. And then I went to see em, and I knew they was mad, so I'd be trying to, like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Seem so black.

[B]

So. So what was the benefit of the scam for you? Would they take off, like, $500 for every black person you got? They knocked it off of your admission or what? So what? So what was the benefit?

[A]

Honestly, there was really nothing in it for me other than I just wanted more black people at Pitt. So I was like, how do I get them here? I gotta lie to them? And then they were. I got the joy of black people.

[B]

You're an agent of chaos. You are. Heath Ledger's the Joker. There was no benefit to the shit he was doing in Batman except to just cause chaos. He admitted it.

[A]

He was like.

[B]

He's like, no, me. Oh, I wouldn't know what to do if I. I'm like a dog chasing his tail. I wouldn't know what to do if I caught it. Like, that is you. There was no reason for this. Oh, my God.

[A]

It was the enjoyment of black people. And also scams I just wanted to get. And every time they came, they would be a little mad. They'd be like, where is all the stuff you showed me? I'm like, okay, well, girl, that only happens once a year.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'll see you in February. So this is Josh Hall. He's 21. He's out here doing the door dashes and the Uber eats, and he's getting the girls their food. Okay. For months, he impersonated Trump family members on Twitter, spreading conspiracy theories, asking for money, and eventually drawing the attention of the President. Wow. That's. One thing I will say is that if Trump wasn't so trash, I would be tweeting at him because he'd be retweeting all the girls, like, I could have got some clout. Like, I could have been retweeted by president, you know, like, Trump.

[B]

You.

[A]

You the thing black people need in our lives. Like what? You know, like anything.

[B]

You get no clout from Twitter, though, you know? You know, Twitter is the hardest platform to grow your following on. Like, people, people. You will go viral for a tweet, but you will only get three followers off of that viralness. It's the most ridiculous thing.

[A]

And I hate Twitter. I hate it.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

I hate it. I love it too. Like, I now know who steals my jokes. And I won't say because he has so many fans, but he'd be stealing everybody jokes. I will just go into his. I'll tell you when we get off there, I go into his tweets and, like, there'd be a bunch of people in there being like, oh, my God, we had the same thought. We thought the same thing. And then they screenshot their tweet. That was way before his. I was like, my nigga, he stole your tweet.

[B]

Like, listen, listen. So you like scams, I like being missed. So tell me who it is and I add em. I'll do a video for him. Cause I don't care. I'm very vocal about you not being able to beat my ass. So you know what you go through.

[A]

I feel that you were a kid in the hood carrying a tennis racket on Rollerblades. I think you're probably the strongest nigga I've ever met. Like, you had to be.

[B]

I encourage the tries, though. Please.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. So I like to pretend that I can fight. And I feel like I've talked about that on a show where I showed up, up once. I'm not gonna tell y' all this story. At the end. If we have time, maybe I'll tell you. I feel like I've told y', all, but okay. So, since February, he had posed as political figures and their families on Twitter, including five of the President's relatives. He had pretended to be Robert Trump, the President's brother, Barron Trump, Trump's 14 year old son, and Deborah L. Burks, the White House coronavirus responder coordinator. The accounts collectively amassed more than 160,000 followers. So he was getting followers pretending to be Trump's fringe family members using their identities. He gained attention by mixing off color political commentary with wild conspiracy theories, including one that the government wanted to implant Americans with microchips, and another that John F. Kennedy Jr. Who died in a plane crash in 1999, was alive and is about to replace Mike Pence as vice president. Holy shit. This guy started that rumor because. Have you seen the guy who they think is John F. Kennedy?

[B]

No, I haven't seen him.

[A]

You haven't seen him? Oh, my gosh. This is all over Twitter. But, like, a lot of the QAnon people think that this one really ugly white man is Sean F. Kennedy and that he never died, and he has, like, this really thick ass, like, fuzzy scruff beard. Can we pull up a picture of him? And, like, he's definitely not John F. Kennedy, but people believe this is, like, a big Kieran conspiracy, so.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

This guy was putting into the zeitgeist. Okay. I wonder how people come up with conspiracies. Like, how do you at your computer and be like, what are we gonna tell the girls today?

[B]

Like, right? Who just comes up with the time? Like, what? Can I start? O I jfk.

[A]

I feel like it.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I feel like it has to be some pettiness, too. Like, I feel like that Wayfair happened because somebody got a bad deal at Wayfair. Like, they got a dresser, and Wayfair wouldn't take it back. And they were like, you know what? That's fine. I'mma tell people y' all putting kids in the Wayfair box.

[B]

That Wayfair was crazy, though. That was like. Like, that was almost too much on the money for it to not be a little real. I was just like, yo, this shit's kind of creepy.

[A]

I mean.

[B]

Cause they did some Googles.

[A]

You know how many kids go missing? You can find a kid with a name that went missing so easily. Like, there's so many kids who are missing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So I was like, so many being shipped in cabinets.

[A]

Ikea, you better watch out. Okay? Y' all send me another Allen wrench. I'm gonna put y' all on the Q and Non theories. I'm like, listen, I Ikea be kid selling the kids. That's why it's called Ikea kids.

[B]

I kid I. I kid I.

[A]

So this is a guy. You see that photo of that guy? That's the guy who they think is John F. Kennedy, Jr. Who didn't die in the plane crash.

[B]

Come on, guys. Y' all gotta do better. Come like. This is. This is the Facebook scammer with the F upside down. This is that one right here. You ain't even trying, bro. Bro. He lives closer to where he looks. Closer to Weird al Yankovic than JFK Jr. Right?

[A]

And his beard. I don't know what it's giving me. It's giving me, like, it's painted on. Like, you know when you just see, like in the movies, they. They're like, who? Let's make someone look like a hobo. Like that word. Like, I feel like that's what he looks like Hollywood.

[B]

I would definitely, I would go, I would walk up to him, like, and go across his face with a, with a clean licked hand and see if it smudge off because it don't feel like nobody hair growing.

[A]

Yeah. This is bizarre. So Josh hall is involved in all of this. He became interested in politics in 2016 when he was a teenager energized by Mr. Trump. He says, I kind of thought he was like a clown at first. Wow. But the more I heard him talk, I realized, yeah, he kind of says off the wall things. But I do agree with what he's saying. Do you? Okay, does anybody even know what he's saying? Like, I've just never seen a stupid person get this far. Honestly, it's inspiring. Like, I can only talk about Trump right now because I know that he'll be out of office. So now I'm free to really talk about, you know, a scammer who's grifted so hard and so good, you know,

[B]

man, he scammed the shit out of the country. Who scammed the shit out of the country? Robbery.

[A]

Trump. Like, he robbed the shit out of us. Can you imagine? Imagine. And by imagine, I mean open your eyes, because you're living it. A government that takes money from you whether you want them to or not. And it's supposed to be for redistribution, for roads, infrastructure, for health care, for help if you need it. And then as soon as you need help, the government is like, what? We ain't got it. Okay, yeah, we just gave Elon Musk $900 million to go to the moon or whatever. But we ain't got no money for y' all on Murph. You going to the Murph?

[B]

Listen, that's what I'm like, what is the Space Force for?

[A]

Who.

[B]

Who they meeting up there? What. What's being played? What's being done with the space? How these train? How the y' all training for the Space Force? Are y'. All. Are y' all jousting? What is it? Is it. What's happening in space that y' all preparing for? And why don't we know? Like, what's the agenda?

[A]

I was like, y' all ain't been there. I. I'll say it. I don't think the moon landing happened.

[B]

I just want to see the syllabus. I want to see the syllabus for the course for the. The Space Force. Like, we don't have a cure for the common cold. And y' all trying to get together. Star troopers. What are y'. All. I'm so sick of her.

[A]

I mean, it's a testament to the arrogance of white men. They were like, no, we did Earth. It's good. Let's move on to space. Like, no, we think we have things to do on Earth, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

We have plenty of work to do. We definitely don't need to move to space.

[B]

Common cold, cancer. There's so many things that we could solve first. Before, yeah. But here.

[A]

What about the moon rocks? What about the moon rocks? That's what I'm thinking about.

[B]

Listen, listen. Did you hear what I told you about dope fiends? I would go to the beach and get some rocks, put them in the bag. I'm like, yeah, this is straight from the moon right here. This is from the dark side of the moon. That's why they so cold.

[A]

I don't want to hear any more about what you gave me. Dope fiends. That was not dope.

[B]

I am a saint. I'm doing the Lord's work. I'm not filling my community with more drugs. They've had enough, okay? I'm out here trying to make it better. I'm trying to clean it up with Sweets, you know?

[A]

And that's how I know you're a scammer. Because everything you just said right there was wild. So wild as hell. So he said, I dreamed. This is Josh talking. The 21 year old I. He dreamed of becoming a conservative talk radio host. He said he opted against college and decided instead to build a Persona online. So he said, he's gonna be the next racist influencer. Okay? He's like, guys for limited time, clan hoodies, 15% off. Use my code. Hate niggers. And you get. He was like, I'm gonna be a hate influencer. And I kind of. I don't know. I love that for him.

[B]

Him, so I love that for him.

[A]

So offline, it's not something. I guess I could diamond and silk it, but it's not something I could really benefit from. So offline, he was not so successful. He struggled to hold a job, he said, but online, he started developing a following. So, see, that's how you get hit, you know, when that online life start hitting better than that real life. So maga and give me money. So Josh started a new Twitter account under a different name, Rod Blagojevich. Look how good I said that, guys. No, I didn't mess it up a bunch. And we edited it out. You don't know. Okay? Rob is the former Democratic governor of Illinois. He was serving a 14 year prison sentence for trying to sell Obama's seat in the US Senate after Obama was elected president. And we all do that one some other day. But they did try to raffle off that nigga seat like they was at the school function. It's like silent auction. Whoever bids the most gets Obama's Senate seat.

[B]

Geez Louise.

[A]

Oh, God. So he was doing a little jaily jail or whatever, you know, and his prison sentence. The jelly jail, Jelly jail. You know, little clinky clink.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So his prison sentence had been commuted by Trump and he was released early from prison, making him a sudden ally in the eyes of some conservatives. Obama started the coronavirus. Cyrus hall wrote from the account, Governor Blago. So he made an account for Blagojevich, and it's called At Gov Blago. Gov Blago. That don't sound real. I guess he put gov in the title. So he's tweeting from this account, this is Josh, and he's saying, Obama started the coronavirus.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yo, I feel like the more ridiculous that they are, the more attraction that these stories get, because it's like, how would Obama start coronavirus right when the world has already come out, already come out and said that it came from Wuhan China. But you just gonna. Just randomly gonna pick Obama and say, it's just so ridiculous. And the fact that it actually got traction is just. It baffles me.

[A]

Well, the thing is, and I always say this on the daily Zeitgeist, but I should say it here too, guys, when you retweet shit to dunk on people, you're giving them what they want. You're giving them clout, you're giving them attention. Their videos getting more views, their bills are getting paid. We all have to stop dunking on those blonde white women who lie. We all stop dunking on that one girl with the. With the gun and the poop. We are like, we. We can't do it anymore because we're paying their bills. So he's getting traction because people are retweeting this like, this is so stupid. And then you get to feel good about yourself. We know what you're doing. You get to feel good dunking.

[B]

I.

[A]

Look, bullying is fun. We can all just say it. Let's just all agree being mean is hilarious at a good time. Okay, I get it, but it's wrong. We, for those of us who know it's wrong, we don't participate in it. But when you get to bully somebody who deserves it, it, ooh, ooh. Then it's right again. And then we all get to do it. And so that's why we call Trump orange. And we're mean to him because, you know, we call him ugly, but it's like, we shouldn't be doing that. But also, he deserves.

[B]

You know what? I agree with you. We don't need to give them more of a platform. The longer we talk about it, the more, you know, range that you're giving them. But sometimes somebody needs to be called a ass nigga. Like, and you don't have to do it online. Like, you could try to find that their. Their. Their. Their email, their personal email or their inbox, and just hit them on Instagram. Just leave them a voice memo. Like, you don't always have to make it public, but leave them a voicemail. A couple people. Yeah, sometimes I just. I be like, yo, you acting like a right now. And like, like, yo, you should check that shit. So, you know, sometimes it's necessary. I get it.

[A]

And I, I agree with you. But I think you have to think about it in these terms of, like, before we had Twitter and you could kind of get instant access to celebrities, given if they respond or not, you had to write mail. So think about how mad you are. You mad enough that you would get a pen and a paper and a stamp and write a letter like, dear so you are a bitch sign like, and you gotta go to the post office and you gotta mail it. Like, think about it. Are you that mad?

[B]

It's involved. It's involved. But yes, it's like, like, how petty are you? Okay, like, this is. This is the pettiest shit I've done. Somebody cut me off while I was in the car with my daughter, right? Cut me off and made me really mad. And I don't, like, blow my horn and curse and like that in front of my daughter. I just. Cool. I follow them, right?

[A]

You follow them.

[B]

I follow them. I see where they stay. I see where the car parks, right? I go home. I go home. Hold on. Go home. And I always had, like, blank cards for thank you cards that I would send with my merch to my, you know, people that buy the merch. So I go home on, and I, I get a card and I write out you very much. You are a horrible driver. You cut me off in, in traffic, thereby risking my and my daughter, which was in the car's life. You know, some more jargon, blah, blah, blah. Eat a hot turd sandwich. And I hope you stub your big toe. Nothing crazy. Not like I hope you die. I just hope you up your toe on the way to the bathroom, like doing that mid sleep walk, right? And then I go back and I place that on their windshield right between the wiper and I just, I just wait. I just wait. Sometimes I can catch them coming up. I gotta see the face. Like, listen, listen. Every good crime meets an audience. Every good crime meets the audience. And I just had to see. I had to see it. So, yes, I've only done it like three times. To my defense. I've only done it like three times.

[A]

One is not even on. This is very.

[B]

Wow. I feel a real judge on a show called Scared Goddess. Listen, I'm feeling real judged.

[A]

I'll tell you why I'm coming from this place. It's because I've been the other person. Like, I cut people off all the time. I've cut off sheriffs and had to pull over and drop the name of very famous drug dealers in the city so I could get out of tickets. I cut people off all the time. I'm a terrible driver and I have had somebody follow me. And I was like, well, if you really had to go where you needed to go, you got plenty of time to follow me right now. Like, why you mad?

[B]

Yeah, because listen, because now I'm mad and now I have a point. See, that's the petty in me. So I have more petty than scammer. You have more scammer than petty. I'm gonna tell you what. If I.

[A]

Here's the thing. When driving on top of me, you are, you are top of me in the petty, right?

[B]

Now listen, let me tell you something. If I, If I let you over, right? To, to. To get in my lane, I'm in a forehand lane, right? First of all, I need you to go faster than me. You don't need to match my speed. You need to go faster than me so you can keep a good distance. If I let you over and you don't go faster than me, and you don't match my speed and you actually slow down, I'm gonna get over one lane and I'm never gonna let you off the highway. I will cancel all my plans, bitch. We will be halfway to Barstow before you realize what's happening? Cause I will never let you. You'll never see an exit ever. I got an electric car, bitch. I got 350 miles to go.

[A]

What's up?

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

I should have known you were a Prius driver. Y' all Prius drivers different.

[B]

I didn't say a Prius. I didn't say a Prius. Okay, but either way. Way, either way, you'll never see this exercise. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Take it off and fill up. I ain't got no money, Must beware. I don't have many money.

[A]

Listen, I try to make that clear every episode that I am poor. So, people, I'mma tell you who got

[B]

all my money, though. I'mma tell you who got all my money. It's this bad little called Sally May. Oh, that little thing got all my money.

[A]

Now you want to talk about petty? I have Sally saved in my phone. Cause I need to know when that bitch is calling. I need to know what she wants, okay? I'm so sick of that bitch. She can go.

[B]

She can go.

[A]

So Obama started coronavirus, right? The story. Remember? Remember what we were talking about? So Twitter. I'm saying that to the audience. Cause I know they like, bitch, now we on the highway. What happened? So Twitter eventually removed of Blago account, prompting Mr. Hall to impersonate someone else. In the headlines, Dr. Burks, the White House official working on the pandemic. She said. So this is Josh speaking as Dr. Burks on Twitter. The media is lying to you about this virus. But that account didn't gain much traction. So he moved on to what he thought would attract more people, the Trump family. Hall said he went on Wikipedia to find Trump's relatives who didn't have Twitter accounts, and landed on Robert Trump, the President's brother. Wow, that's pretty close to wow.

[B]

That's ballsy, bro.

[A]

So he started the account at BigRobTrump. These don't even sound legit. He quickly gained more than 25,000 followers, partly by spreading conspiracy theories. The coronavirus was planned and then released onto the world by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Wow. I want to make up conspiracy theories because this is fun. This is a good time. So when Twitter removed the first Robert Trump account, Hall started a new one, this time under the username Uncle Rob Trump. Okay. It did even better. And collected more than 77,000 followers. As the new Robert Trump account gained influence, hall began using it to promote his own Twitter profile. The By Trump guy, huh? The so on that account, hall said that he's bisexual. Called himself the founder of the group called Gay Voices for Trump. Wow.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

Black voices for racism.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Gay Voices for homophobic.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

So he used the fake Robert Trump profile to promote these groups. Right? He said, Robert Trump. This is the Robert Trump fake. Twitter says uncle Rob runs Gay Voices for Trump with the bi Trump guy. Although I'm very much a heterosexual man. It's the Trump genes. We love women. Okay. So I think at this point, he's trying to like, get his followers to follow him. So he's like, oh, I run these accounts together, but, you know, no homo. But also, what is happening?

[B]

This is a lot mad, yo. This is. This is a lot. So this is very involved. Is this. This is why he does like doordash and stuff. Because you can't have a job and commit to what he's doing.

[A]

No.

[B]

And have like some type of scheduled job. You gotta be at home to commit.

[A]

You have to have like freedom of time. And I did doordash years ago ago, I did one delivery of Taco Bell I'll never forget. And I said, this isn't for me. It was like you just sitting a car and wait and then maybe you got a ping. And door dash was really slow at that time because they were new. I went to this weird orientation in a hollowed out building. It just felt like a crime. And that's why I liked it. But then after my first Taco Bell delivery, I was like, this ain't for me. I can't go door to door. Door to door is not my thing.

[B]

Thing I did. I did. I did Uber. What was it? Lift? I think I did Uber. Uber was out first. I did Uber for two days and got kicked off of it.

[A]

You got kicked off what you do?

[B]

I've always loved the trans. I've always loved the movie the Transporter. Always. Right. That was the first movie I really got. Got hip to Jason Statham. Right? And I think. I think I'm a great driver. Driver. I think I'm a great driver. And so I would ask people, I'd be like, how soon do you need to get that? They'd be like, as soon as possible. I'm like, you sure? And they'd be like, yes, I'm driving this. Like the transporter I had. Hey, yeah. At the time I had a little Ford gt. It was the Focus hatchback. So it was like the racing editions, the tires. So I'm. I'm hitting corners. Like, I'm hitting corners and pulling the E brake up. So I would, like, fishtail it a little bit.

[A]

This is Uber, not Tokyo Drift. They done got in your car. Are you turning to Vin Diesel?

[B]

I asked them, how soon do they need to get there?

[A]

Well, you gotta give them levels. You gotta be like, hey, how soon do you need to get there? We talking Driving Miss Daisy. We talking Tokyo Drift. We talking bad boys for life. Like, how fast do you need to get there?

[B]

Oh, see, see, see, see? And that's. You sound like them. You sound like them. But I'm like, yo, I asked you, did I not? Did I not?

[A]

You gotta give people a scale of 1 to 10. You can't just be like, do you need to get there?

[B]

And then just at that point, when I ask them, that's when you say, it is your respons. Tell me how fast you need. I can get there. I mean, you know, the normal. Normal route is found, right? That's what they could say. If I asked you if you're hungry, like, yo, you hungry? Like, yeah, I can eat. If you say that and you don't give me any type of place that you could eat at, then we gonna go with whatever I pick. Now if I ask you what you. Are you hungry? You'd be like, yeah, I really got a taste for pizza. Then we gonna get pizza. Okay. Closed mouth don't get fat. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[A]

I agree with the people in the Uber. I'm glad they kicked you up.

[B]

See that? See that, that. Oh, wow. Y' all acting different.

[A]

Not you burning rubber. Okay, listen, so the. The Twitter accounts were saying, like, look, I. I love women. This is what Uncle Rob was saying. He said, but we're trying to reach out to LGBTQ and other minority voters. Josh is doing great work, so please give him a follow and support him. So now he's using his Uncle Trump Twitter page to promote his Twitter page. Being like, this guy's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's huge. Support. Support him. So the tweets brought Hall's real profile thousands of new followers. Not long after, hall started messaging Trump supporters as Robert Trump, asking them to donate to a fundraiser that eventually brought in $7,384, hall wrote, according to one screenshot. Hey, Patriot, would really appreciate it if you have a couple bucks to spare for the organization.

[B]

He didn't even say the name of the organization. He just said the organization.

[A]

The organization where we be organizing. We have folks folders and Files. Okay. Do you want to give some money?

[B]

At his best. Look at him. Won't God do it?

[A]

Also, like, if a Trump is in your inbox, like, you know, the organization is racism. You know, it's hate. Like, we can't say it out loud, but we all know what the organization is, you know, because somebody gotta buy the nooses. You know, they don't buy themselves. Oh, that's a dark joke. But, yeah, so it's. It's the thing about government right now that's getting on my nerves, and maybe it's because I'm exacerbated because we're in this pandemic is, like, every time I turn around, everybody asks me for money. Like, I gave Joe Biden money. I gave Elizabeth Warren money. I gave Kamala Harris money. And then when they won for the fifty eleventh time, I was like, oh, yeah, we did it. And then they in my inbox, like, if you just have $25, I'm like, bitch, for what? For what you won. We paid for you to win. How much I gotta pay for government? I pay taxes. I pay y' all niggas to run and fight each other. Like. Like, what. What else do I need to pay for?

[B]

Yes, Everything. Everything else you will always pay. Listen, I do a night show, and, you know, the guests collect tips from the audience, and every night. Every night, that's always. They. They collect tips through cash app, right? Like, they have. That's a scammer app, and people tip them out.

[A]

It's one of my top tier scammer apps.

[B]

Listen, listen when I tell you people, because at the end of the night, we thank the people that. That tipped us out. Like, yo, shout out to such and such. Shout outs to such and such. I'm like, oh, you. I'm in it to win it for requesting a thousand dollars for me, you dick. Like, because they hoping that you just hit accept. Accept, accept. And you just hit them with them. It's like, bro, y' all so dirty with that.

[A]

I love that, though. I've accidentally paid people. Yeah, you got to pay attention. The C tier. You might be rich because you're over here just hitting accept, accept, accept. You got to read. You got to read.

[B]

I never. I never. I never hit accept. You know how many things haven't been updated in my life because I didn't hit accept? I'm like, I don't know these things. I ain't hit accept. My iPhone is an iPhone 10, but it's still operating on the iPhone 6 iOS.

[A]

Because, yeah, you should never. Don't accept that there's a lawsuit now against Apple about ruining people's phones from within. Because, you know, whenever you do an update, pass the phone that you have, Steve Jobs ghost come in your shit and fuck it up. And that's a fact, man. So if you don't want Steve and his black turtleneck all up in your iOS just fucking shit up, you know, don't update past what you have. But I, I think they're suing Apple for it because it really does destroy your phone from within.

[B]

It feels like it. It feels like it. I'm gonna go back to where you said and that's a fact, to a ghost being in your iPhone. I' ma just go back to that real quick and I'm gonna say, is that indeed a fact or is that

[A]

it is we already revisited.

[B]

Okay, you're right.

[A]

That's a fact. Steve Jobs pull up and start tinkering with your shit. So just be careful, y'. All. So in August. But, but, but more of this to say, like reaching out as a political figure and asking regular people for money has just become so normalized. So I can get why people would give this money up to the organization. He didn't even say shit. He didn't even say your name. He said, hey, patriot. Yes, hey, fellow racisms. He didn't even give you a name. So in August, Robert Trump died. The news drew scrutiny to the fake Robert Trunk account, and some of its followers began to suspect that hall was behind it. In response, hall said that the fake account was run by a close police political friend of mine who did not know about Mr. Trump's serious condition. So basically this nigga was like on the deathbed and he's like, hey, y', all no homo, give me money, right? And, and I don't know because remember when Herman Cain died and they keep tweeting from his account. Herman Cain been dead and they got Herman Cain's account like coronavirus is a hoax. Herman Cain died of coronavirus.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

What's wrong with people? So I don't know. People just think somebody else was running it. So the final living sibling he hadn't tried was Mr. Trump growl, the President's older sister, who's in her late 70s and lives in Florida and hardly has anything to public, like public to say since her brother was elected. She just been quiet, cuz she probably not good. So hall changed the name, photo and bio of one account and erased the old post. Then he started with a new message. This election inspired me to break my sack. Violence, he wrote under a photo of Ms. Trump growl and the username the Betty Trump. My brother Don won this election. He says he went viral again, collecting about 20,000 followers in 24 hours. Damn Trump supporters. Listen, look, they may be horrible people and trash, but, look, can we talk about a loyal fan base? Can we talk about that? Because anytime I'll be making mistakes on here, y' all be correcting me, and I come back and I apologize. But what if I just had fans who literally would let me do anything?

[B]

Listen, I. They listen. They not only correct me, they screenshot myself. Like, I was doing that ad. I was doing an ad for Ship station, and I had to reset, and I. My editor accidentally left it in, and they was like, damn, forgot to edit this out. First of all, I don't even edit that no more. Okay? That's number one. Number two, you. You could have inboxed me that. You didn't have to put all my business out there. Y' all just love putting a nigga on front street.

[A]

Put me on.

[B]

Yeah, but no bus money, no bus far. Just got me out there, just cheeks to the wind, Lacey. And I'm sick of this. I am so sick of them. They so goddamn petty,

[A]

but I love it. But also, it is, like. Because I just remember when Trump was finishing the campaign, he was doing these rallies out in states where it gets pretty cold in the winter, and he was busy bussing the fans because I can't even call them support. I don't even know what. They're just psychophens. And he was busing them there. And then on the way back, he would get in his helicopter, and they wouldn't have no buses for the girls, and the girls had to walk in the cold. And, you know, the Trump girls are old, okay? You know them creepy skin commercials, All Trump girls. So they're, like, out there with the creepy skin blowing, billowing in the wind and shit. And I'm like, wow, y' all still gonna go vote for this man after he made you walk three miles in the cold?

[B]

Listen, my man didn't even put the umbrella over his old lady. Over his. Come on, man. Like, this whole. That whole team, right? You see how Mike Pence ran? You see how he was. He ran like he was about to start a chair. He was like,

[A]

you see, that's because Mike Pence loves. He loves the drama. The first thing that Mike Pence did when they were elected the first time was go see Hamilton, which I was like, girl, girl, you thought the Girls in Hamilton were gonna wanna see you. He was like, finally, I get tickets to Hamilton because I'm vice president. And the girls booed him out. But I just, you know, Pence, you could have had a life if you didn't repress who you are. You could have had a fun life. You might have been our favorite, you know, Frosty haired man. Anyway, in August, Robert Trump, okay, so yeah, all this shit happens. Robert Trump dies. Then he pulls up with a new account and he's like this Betty, pull up. So he goes viral again. He collects so many followers in 24 hours. 20, 20,000 to be precise. In 24 hours. Over on November 20, hall woke Shell shocked to see that the President had tweeted about his fake account. The president said, thank you, Elizabeth Love. Within hours, the account was outed as fake. Mr. Hall argued that his accounts were clear parodies and if anyone just looked at what they posted, you would know. So he was saying, for example, on the Mrs. Trump grow account, he called the CNN anchor Anderson Cooper. Anderson clever. And said that he would cover the legal fees of anyone who poured gravy down the pants of Chris Wallace, the Fox News anchor. Josh Hall's accounts have been suspended from Twitter, but it's unclear if the donors have received refunds or if Josh has been penalized. So that means that Josh is still in the win. And I just want to say, Josh, if you scam Trump supporters, I support you and I get that you support Trump, so I can't support that. But if you want to get a couple dimes, I told y', all, I'm still really itching to sell Trump merch. It's really hurting me how much money I could be making, making right now. I could have stop the steel on everybody's hat. I could make. I can embroider it into some jeans, bruh. Like, I could be really be making stuff right now.

[B]

Listen, I feel like, because it was a couple big black names that were really supporting Trump too. And well, these, these weren't like famous people that I know, but they were like, like they had a couple hundred thousand. They had close to 100,000 subscribe followers followers on Instagram because they were Trump supporter. They black guys, right? But like, like hood, like one of the dudes was from New York. I think he recently passed like last month or something like that. But I always felt like they was just getting the money. Like it was all for the bag. It was like, yo, you know, I'm blacks for Trump's. You know, we holding a small Rally here. Anything you guys can donate would be helpful. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, because if you. If you have a rally of like

[A]

400, for it to be a rally, it's three people around.

[B]

Nah, nah, nah. But you. You gotta.

[A]

Is that a rally?

[B]

Technically. Technically, is it a rally or have signs?

[A]

How many people gotta have signs for it to be a rally?

[B]

If you got 12, at least eight of them need us to have signs, you know?

[A]

Okay. And then that's a rally.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[B]

That's a rally.

[A]

You heard it here first, guys. You only need 12 people, and eight of them have to have signs, and then it's a rally. Okay? So don't worry. Y' all can have rallies. But you're right. I think you're right about that because, like, Candace Owens used to be a Democrat, and then she let her hair get dry and became a conservative. But it was.

[B]

Because

[A]

that's what happens. As soon as you start doing Trump rhetoric, your edges leave you. It's just what happens.

[B]

Hey, she ain't got no shade.

[A]

She ain't got no moisture.

[B]

I want Candace Owens to go to the barbecue and ain't nobody going. Ain't nobody going to jump in you. Ain't nobody gonna jump you. I just want her to go heads up with Amanda Seal so Amanda Seals can rip her ass. New one like I did. I'm just gonna be sitting. It's that gift of safari when he's sitting at a table eating that chicken. That's. That's all I want to do. This will be a fly on a picnic table or a fly on the head like Mike Pence and just watch as it all unfolds. Oh, God, I would love that. I would love that.

[A]

Well, Josh hall is still at large, guys. It doesn't look like there's been any reprimanding yet. He's just been on Twitter asking for coins and robbing the girls and pretending to be Trump's whole family tree. And honestly, I'm not against it if you're scamming Trump supporters. I've said it before. I know some Trump supporters listen to this show. I done told y', all, this is not for you. But if you're scamming and you're listening anyway. Hello. So, guys, we're taking a quick break. When we're back for the saddest part of the show, the end where I have to let Tahir go. Robbery and fraud. And we are back for the saddest part of the show. This is where I have to let Tahir go. Guys, are you liking the vocal differences I'm giving you? Because I was shrieking for a good four months and you guys were fine with it. But I'm trying to give you smooth, I'm trying to give you you smooth jazz and R and B. Okay. Quiet jazz. Ooh, Tahir, you're good at that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, Mr. Morgue, you better give us more.

[B]

So hey, I'm out here. Yes, I'm out. That's like when I channel my inner deep voice, light skin, it gets real. Okay? I just want you to know, deep

[A]

voice, light skin, very specific. Scammer of the week guys, it's food delivery near me. A phishing scam. Guys, if you've ever used a food delivery service, you know how convenient it is, okay? The girls come to your door, they do contactless delivery. Sometimes your food just appears. They leave. It's beautiful. You usually receive a follow up email later in the week from the same company or restaurant asking you to rate your experience in exchange for a coupon on your next order. However, this tactic is used casually to gather important information about about you. So I do my stuff through postmates and they don't really send emails. They will be like, hey Rada. So I'm like, go away. But I haven't had them send emails. But I know other apps do. So how it works is you receive an email that may have the subject line food delivery near me, your order, 25% off or $15 off your next order. Something like that. It asks you to sign into the account that you use for the food delivery company and then ask how to how often you get food delivered to your home? How likely would you recommend the service? You answer the questions honestly, hoping that you will soon get your gift certificate or discount. On the final page of the survey, you're asked for some final information. It's all personal information, but after multiple pages of the survey, you just wanna finish it and get your reward, right? So that's how they do it. They exasperate you a little bit. It's like, okay, I answered all these dumb safe questions. And then the next you flip it over and it's like, what's your mother's maiden name? What was her first car? What's her Social Security number? What's your Social Security number? What does your booty hole look like? Send us a photo. We need to see. Make sure it's not a robot. Like they're just like gonna hit you with all the shit real quick. So it asks for some information that doesn't seem relevant, like your birthday account number, as well as other personal details. But you fill it in and you click submit because you're like, I want my $15. Okay. Unfortunately, you gonna never receive a gift certificate, guys. The scammer will send emails of all kinds that look like they come from online delivery companies, hoping that one of them will look legitimate enough that a user will unknowing access to their account. Because remember, you logged into this survey with your food account, but it wasn't the app. They was like, log in a post Facebook, click on this link. And we're all ordering out a lot, guys, which is why we want to have this. A scammer of the week. I do not approve of this scam. But guys, if you're getting emails and they're asking for first personal information, first of all, don't do no damn surveys. What you get out of a survey? Nothing.

[B]

Listen, nothing, nothing.

[A]

Don't do surveys. If the survey, if it's legitimate and they're like, they're gonna give you some coin maybe, but for the most part, it's free information. They should have to pay you. They need. That's what they call focus groups. That's why they pay focus groups.

[B]

Not only that, most of the surveys that you would have to fill out for stuff like that, you can get it in the app. Like, there'll be a notification. You click on the notification or it'll ask you how you loving the app. As soon as you launch the app, those things, three little squares rectangle pop up. Do you love the app? You hate the app? You're okay with it when. Okay, do you want to expound on this? All of that? Man, listen, listen. I ain't anything that come to my email that don't concern money or performances.

[A]

Delete, delete. You don't have to delete. You don't have to give them information. To this day, I don't have any grocery store card because I don't want to build information for the grocery store on my purchasing habits. I just use a store card and get the same discount.

[B]

See, I can't do that one. I gotta use my rap score. Cause I need them fuel points. I need them shell fuel points every time I'm at the pump. Lacy.

[A]

Oh, wow. I didn't think about fuel points. See, that's the trade off. For your information, you giving up your booty hole for fuel points?

[B]

70 cents off the gallon. 70 cents off the gallon. My old school is a V8. I need everything that I can get. You understand me?

[A]

Okay, fair enough. So not only will they continue to ask for more and more personal information, hoping to obtain enough to get your identity, they start out asking minor information. And then they go. They progress. We know so how to avoid this. Even if you receive an email from an account with the same name as a trusted company, click on the name and look at the actual email address. Y', all. We've said that like to hear. Was saying earlier the Facebook with the F upside down. You gotta look at the email address. It might be an unknown domain, which is an immediate reason to delete the email. Email. So, guys, once again, if the girls start asking you too many questions, if they got. Anytime somebody tries to reroute you in an email, click on a link. If it was legit, you could just go into the app, like Tahir was saying. So scammer of the week is actually a warning for you guys because we're all ordering way more Postmates. I am. I ordered so much Postmates that actually I was got. I got shamed by my neighbor the other day. He. I came out and he was with his bitch. They was across the street. I was getting my postmates. And I heard him. I heard him whisper to his girl. She gets postmates every day. And then I looked over to confirm that they were talking shit about me. And they were. And then they laughed. And to hear that was the most hurtful part of it all. Is I'm single. I live alone. That Postmates is my bae. That's my only excitement. Postmates text me more than any nigga ever has. They'd be like, we're too minutes away. We're three minutes away. She pulling up the driveway. She turned her head lights off. Sis, you ready for this? Postmates girl. It's gonna be good. And me and Postmates be talking, right? So now I gotta watch a couple. Two people who can bone the whole pandemic laugh and enjoy themselves at my expense.

[B]

Let me tell you this. First of all, if they live together, they ain't the whole time. Cause they got tired of each other. That's number one.

[A]

That's why it matters happening. If you live with someone, y' all just bonus. And just like maybe.

[B]

Maybe if it's new. Maybe if it's new. But like, if y' all been together for a while, like, I get it. I get it. I've seen it before. Anyway,

[A]

I'm tired of watching reruns of your penis. I done had this penis before.

[B]

Ain't nothing new you can show me. Unless you finna fuck me on the ceiling, which we gonna lose our deposit if you do. And that's a flex. If you can afford post space like that, that means you getting it. In these streets, they know they can't afford it every day, so it don't even matter. Like, fuck them.

[A]

I can't go buy that. I can't go buy that. They throwing their love in my face. That was disrespectful to her.

[B]

Hella overrated.

[A]

Y' all need to think about single people more. I feel like we are not being aware. Okay. Y' all need to have some awarenesses. Okay. I'm gonna raise awareness for singleness. I will need y' all to donate $50.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

For the organization. Okay.

[B]

Cause single ain't cheap.

[A]

Okay. Oh, gosh, Guys, we've reached. Oh, this is a long one. Enjoy. We've reached the end of the show. And before I let you go to here, I just want to know, where do you want to be found? We ask people where they want to be found.

[B]

You just find me on Instagram. My link tree has everything in there. I got a couple shows out, more to the story. Wording is hard. Zooming with the homies. And you can find all of that through my link Tree or my YouTube, which is also on my link tree. So got tons of entertainment, man. Go out there and be entertained. Laugh a lot.

[A]

Yes. And I know we're all searching for content, so you guys should definitely be following Tahir. Cause he's putting out the content. I am very impressed with how consistent you are and how funny you are.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Yes. And I follow him on the socials. Thanks, as always. You can cinch on your friends and family. Just make sure it's after the scam is retired so we don't fuck up your bag. Scam got us podmail.com if you want to follow the show. Scam got his pot on all platforms. If you want to follow me and my shenanigans. D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey on all platforms. And guys, if you have a clubhouse, follow me on Clubhouse. I got on Clubhouse to be messy and ratchet for you guys. And I will do a room. I'll do a scam room where we can all talk to each other. So follow me on Clubhouse at Divalacy. I'm keeping the brand strong and let's do some nonsense. Okay? All right, guys.

[B]

I'm finna follow you right now.

[A]

Yes. All right. I need to follow you. I feel like you probably. I just got on there. Uh, congregation, stay scheming. Scam Goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess is starring me. Duh. Scam Goddess, AKA Lacy Mosley. Scam Goddess is produced by Chelsea Jacobson and engineered by Marina Baiz with research by Sherrilynn Vera. Stay.