The Not So Magic Mike w/ Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen

Summary

Podcast Summary: Scam Goddess – "The Not So Magic Mike w/ Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Scam Goddess
• Host: Laci Mosley (Lacey Mosley)
• Guests: Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen
• Episode: The Not So Magic Mike
• Release Date: July 29, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley welcomes actresses Rachel Bilson and Olivia Allen to discuss contemporary scams, personal experiences with fraud, and delve into a particularly intriguing case involving a fraudulent Magic Mike live show.

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Generational Differences and Technology

Discussion Highlights:

• Millennials vs. Gen Z: Laci opens the conversation by addressing the generational gap, emphasizing how Millennials perceive Gen Z and Alpha as lacking certain skills, such as reading, possibly due to increased reliance on technology and AI.

  • Laci Mosley [04:00]: "Being alive is very hard these days, especially for us millennials... Why can't y'all read?"

  • Olivia Allen [05:00]: "What is going on with that?"

• Impact of AI and Technology: The hosts discuss the pervasive nature of AI and its implications on daily life, expressing concerns over privacy and the ease with which scammers can exploit technological advancements.

  • Laci Mosley [05:33]: "It's so complicated because if you don't feed the machine, especially as a minority, then the machine is gonna... so you kind of have to feed the machine."

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Personal Experiences with Scams

Discussion Highlights:

• Rachel Bilson's Experience: Rachel shares a recent incident where a close friend was scammed out of their life savings through a sophisticated wire fraud scheme tied to a fake escrow company used in real estate transactions.

  • Rachel Bilson [09:36]: "They copied the escrow company a hundred percent... Someone stole their entire life savings."

• Olivia Allen's Experience: Olivia recounts witnessing a friend fall victim to the scam, highlighting the emotional trauma and the challenges in recovering lost funds.

  • Olivia Allen [10:10]: "They worked their whole life, saved up a down payment... It was a scam. It was a fake wire fraud."

• Advice on Avoiding Scams: The trio emphasizes the importance of vigilance, such as verifying phone numbers independently and taking a moment to assess threatening communications.

  • Laci Mosley [13:03]: "You always have 30 seconds. If you're in a plank... think about the information you've received before you go to Walmart and get some gift cards."

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Fake Magic Mike Scandal

a. Overview of the Scam

Discussion Highlights:

• The Scheme: John Santilli, a Hollywood producer, falsely solicited over $4 million from investors by claiming funds would support the renowned "Magic Mike Live" strip show. In reality, the money was diverted to personal gambling ventures across various casinos.

  • Laci Mosley [18:20]: "A Hollywood producer stole more than 4 million from investors who thought they were buying a stake in Magic Mike Live... he was actually taking the money and using it to gamble."

• Use of Deceptive Materials: Santilli employed doctored legal documents and fabricated connections with established figures like Channing Tatum to legitimize his fraudulent activities.

  • Laci Mosley [58:58]: "He used a doctored legal document that made it appear that ALORIS Magic Mike L.P. was a shareholder of Mike's Mobile Detailing."

b. John Santilli's Actions

Discussion Highlights:

• Professional Background: Laci delves into Santilli's career, highlighting his legitimate roles in various film projects, which he leveraged to gain investors' trust.

  • Laci Mosley [34:00]: "He was an executive producer of the English Teacher... co-produced the 2019 film Vault... executive producer on the 2024 Lifetime movie held Hostage in My House."

• Gambling and Fraudulent Spendings: It was revealed that Santilli spent over a million dollars from the investor funds on casinos like Twin River, Foxwoods, and Mohegan Sun, displaying a blatant misuse of the borrowed capital.

  • Laci Mosley [62:52]: "He was taking real notes on the job... He was clearly spending this money on gambling."

c. Connection to Channing Tatum and Magic Mike Live

Discussion Highlights:

• Leveraging Celebrity Ties: Santilli's use of photographs with Channing Tatum and references to "Magic Mike" was a strategic move to appear credible and entice investors.

  • Laci Mosley [30:28]: "He has a pic of himself with Channing Tatum on IMDb."

• Impact on Investors: The episode discusses how Santilli's deceit led to significant financial losses for investors who believed they were supporting a legitimate and lucrative entertainment venture.

  • Laci Mosley [62:52]: "He was arrested in 2020 and found guilty of... securities fraud."

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Public Reactions and Conclusions

Discussion Highlights:

• Moral Judgments: The hosts express a mix of condemnation and empathy towards Santilli, acknowledging the gravity of his actions while also considering the possible underlying issues like addiction.

  • Rachel Bilson [74:22]: "He took money and it was like supporting his addiction to gambling... I don't agree."

  • Olivia Allen [75:02]: "If he actually goes down... he never hurt any... Anyone physically."

• Lessons Learned: Emphasis is placed on the importance of due diligence, especially when investments seem too good to be true or when they rely heavily on celebrity endorsements.

  • Laci Mosley [63:06]: "We all know. We all know everything is made up. So why not this being made up?"

• Final Thoughts: The episode concludes by reinforcing the necessity of staying informed and cautious to avoid falling prey to sophisticated scams.

  • Laci Mosley [75:56]: "They have the fake LLC... They really withdrew more than a million dollars... These are not the scams we like here."

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Notable Quotes

• Laci Mosley [04:00]: "We're just the right amount of cynical. We're just the right amount of active. We're just the right amount of broke."

• Rachel Bilson [07:22]: "Love a fucking scam."

• Olivia Allen [05:00]: "What's going on with that?"

• Laci Mosley [22:48]: "We are talking about a fake Magic Mike right now."

• Laci Mosley [62:52]: "He was taking real notes on the job... He was like, you did a wedding."

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Conclusion

This episode of Scam Goddess serves as a cautionary tale about the sophistication of modern scams, particularly how fraudsters exploit trust, celebrity associations, and technological tools to deceive investors. Through engaging conversations with Rachel Bilson and Olivia Allen, host Laci Mosley highlights the critical need for vigilance and informed decision-making to safeguard against financial fraud.

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Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Rachel Bilson]

That was such a beautiful intro. Thank you for that. Can you just come around with me everywhere I go? Cause I would really appreciate that.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, I will say I'm very booked to do people's funerals, so I have to do a lot of funerals, but y' all are alive and well. We're alive and cunty and very well. Okay, so you might have to do my funeral. Okay.

[Olivia Allen]

No, you're alive.

[Rachel Bilson]

You're alive.

[Olivia Allen]

You're, like, super alive.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love the podcast, starting with, like, everyone's alive. We're all alive.

[Rachel Bilson]

We're al. We got that covered. We are all alive.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, that's the thing, you know, Being alive is very hard these days, especially for us millennials. And honestly, I was talking to my friend Kyle about this. I feel like older generations always have this jealousy of, like, younger people coming up. But as millennials, I really feel like we don't have to have that jealousy, because it's almost more empathy now. Because I'm like, Gen Z, Gen Alpha. Why can't y' all read? Like, they can't read?

[Olivia Allen]

What is going on with that?

[Lacey Mosley]

It used to be like, oh, some young whippersnapper's gonna take my job. But now it's like, y' all can't read. You can't even take my job. Cause you. You're using AI to read. Like, please.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia Allen]

Bananas to read.

[Lacey Mosley]

Are you gonna pay me adequately for reading? Stop. That's what just said. Like, it's crazy. And, like, we used to go to college, and everybody knows college is a little bit of a scam, but you can work that scam and make it your own if you want.

[Rachel Bilson]

Sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

But a lot of college is just learning how to learn. Like, learning how to process information from valuable sources, sources that have something to Lose. They'll get sued or something like that. And they don't even teach, like, what a reliable source is. They're not teaching a.govedu.com difference anymore.

[Rachel Bilson]

I couldn't tell you what the difference is there.

[Olivia Allen]

They're not teaching anyone to learn.

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Olivia Allen]

Right. That's the scary part.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Olivia Allen]

But do you find yourself doing it, too? Because I'm like, I don't know. This AI, what is.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't want to feed the machine. Oh, it's hard. But then it's. It's complicated because it's like, if you don't feed the machine, especially as a minority, then the machine is gonna, like, if you put it in, like, black boys. It's like. Like black little boys in prison attire. It's like, so you kind of have to feed the machine because otherwise, you know, all the other dumb dummies are looking at it and taking it as facts. Right. It's so complicated.

[Rachel Bilson]

It is.

[Lacey Mosley]

But I'm also like, we don't need this. We have Google. We don't need Grok. We don't need AI. We don't need people with six fingers talking about imaginary, like, Trump, you know, villas, like, what are we doing? Oh, my gosh, I don't know. But the kids are lost, and they can't put their phones down. And also, I'm glad to be this age because we had the Internet. But also, the Internet was a place at that time, like, right?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

It wasn't constantly on your phone. You went home to the Internet and you were like, oh, let me get on the Internet.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now the Internet is everywhere.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's every now.

[Lacey Mosley]

And it's the phones.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's the phones. Like, that's the biggest thing, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I'm like, I can't go to a party and, like, twerk my ass without worrying about that video haunting me.

[Olivia Allen]

Or praying it does.

[Lacey Mosley]

I used to dance. So we were sweaty. We were sweaty. Yeah. And nobody was like, let's film this. I feel bad for the children. They can't read, they can't dance, they can't do anything. They can't do anything.

[Rachel Bilson]

No high school.

[Lacey Mosley]

And aren't you glad it's not in 4K?

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's not on VHS. You can't get it on DVD.

[Rachel Bilson]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

You got to live and be a human.

[Rachel Bilson]

You got to live. Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

We should just dead the whole thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

We really should go back to it. The children, they love their AI. So I'm like, okay, I guess. But we always ask at the top of the show. What is your relationship with scams? And either of you can start.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So have you. Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed?

[Olivia Allen]

Love a fucking scam.

[Rachel Bilson]

Love a scam. Do you know what, though? When I hear the word scam, can I just tell you? Like, growing up, that's what we would call. When you would make out with a boy, you would scam or scam on them.

[Lacey Mosley]

Really?

[Rachel Bilson]

Or you would be scamming and that. Whenever I heard scam, that's what I associated with a scam.

[Olivia Allen]

Me too.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's like kiss with tongue. Like that. That clarifies. Like, you were scamming.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, oh, okay, so it was like a teenage boy. Like darting their tongue in your mouth like a frog.

[Olivia Allen]

I'd be like, I scammed with Jose behind the bungalows, you know?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, that sounds so classy. It wasn't. No, it's not really classy. I scammed with Jose behind the bungalows. The whole sentence sounds very classy and wonderful. It's like in a memoir. It's very whimsical.

[Rachel Bilson]

I don't know if classy pops into my head.

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Rachel Bilson]

But, yeah, I just, like, if, you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Know, if you're from la, then you know what that means. But like, bungalow, like, that word is very, like.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah, no, these are the buildings in schools. They couldn't afford to attach to the building, so they'd throw up.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh. So bungalows, you call it a bungalow? In Florida, we called it a portable.

[Rachel Bilson]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, yeah, it's not classy. It's not air conditioned. You class it up. Bungalow sounds sexy and, like warm and like you were like, shrouded by all these palm trees.

[Olivia Allen]

Zero.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, like, we got it. Portables.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah, it's basically a trailer with.

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah, it's aerial.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know exactly what it is. Cause I lived in Florida when I was 13 and we. We had bungalows. I like, I like, I want to say that. Yeah, no, it was a school of outside portables in Pretty Brook Pines. It was outside and you were outside.

[Olivia Allen]

And you were scamming.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. It rained at 3 o' clock every single day and we were like ducking and dodging all the raindrops. Yes, it was very ghetto. But bungalow sounds so classy. I like that. Yeah, I'm going to keep that. So scam meant something different to you both?

[Rachel Bilson]

Well, no, I mean, she had real scam experience.

[Olivia Allen]

I don't personally have real scam experience. Like, I don't think I've been scammed One of my best friends got scammed really bad recently. Like, the kind of thing you hear and you're like, that doesn't happen to people, you know?

[Lacey Mosley]

Right, right.

[Olivia Allen]

It was bad.

[Lacey Mosley]

I recently had one of those that doesn't happen with people, you know, Like a natural disaster. Like, this is such a bummer, but, like, I'm just gonna say it, but shout out to Ms. Pat. But a saint who was working in the church fe. Like, people who didn't have meals. And during the tornadoes that happened in St. Louis, she was killed in the church. And I was like, I have never had a natural disaster happen to. Like, it's like, you see it on the news and you see the numbers of the toll or whatever, but they're never anybody that you know. And you're like, what the. Like, how the fuck did this happen?

[Olivia Allen]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

So when the news hits you, when you see stuff on the news and you're like, damn, I actually know that person. That's crazy. So you had a friend who was a part of a scam.

[Olivia Allen]

So she got scammed. Her and her husband worked their whole life.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, now I know. I was trying. I'm like, oh, my gosh. What are you talking about? Yeah, now I know.

[Olivia Allen]

They worked their whole life, saved up a down payment for a home in the hundreds of thousands that they put away consistently, and finally got a large down payment for their dream home. And they went through escrow and everything. And the day they were supposed to send their payment, they did. They wired it, all of that. It was a scam. It was a fake wire fraud. And this happens all the time. And you hear, oh, like, be careful. You gotta make sure you're sending the money to the right people. But what these people did is they copied the escrow company a hundred percent. So it's gonna be the same email, the same names, the same numbers on the same day that you would be wiring them your money if you're buying a home. All fake, all the money's gone. There's no way to track them down. There's no one to sue. There's no insurance. Gone. Poof. Someone stole their entire life savings. Scammed them and they got scammed. Scammed, Damn.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah, that's, like, shitty.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sometimes you can track the scammer down and you can get, like, compensation or you can get, you know, something back, but sometimes they disappear into the wind. Those are not the scams we like here. No, but we do. But I'm so glad that you shared that, because it's really important for People to know that, like be careful. Some also. Some shit has to be done in person. Like some shit has to be done in person. And back to the AI. I know computers and we have so much technology at our fingertips now that it makes things more convenient. But some things, and this is not a victim blame thing. It's just like advice to the wise out here of like some things have to be done in person because the scammers are. They're right. They're everywhere.

[Olivia Allen]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

That is such a bummer that they can't get their money back and that they've. That was their. Probably their forever home. Yeah. That they would leave and their family will. And like now they've paid it to some random grifter. Yeah. And you can't even trust the numbers that call your phone. I tell people all the time if you get a random phone call from the Social Security office or especially right now, like you have to hang up and call the real number back again. Because you can clone a phone number when you are calling someone and you think it's legit, but it's not. The number actually has been cloned by the scammer. Like they know everything.

[Rachel Bilson]

There's so many emails too that come in now. Like you have to pay this or whatever. Like with, with a email repercussions.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like if you ever get an invoice or something from the state, the government or anything and it's a time threat and they're threatening you and they're trying to make you act before you can think or what you are receiving. Information wise. It's a scam. Take a second. You always have 30 seconds. That's what I always say. Like if it's a medical emergency, if it's anything. You always have 30 seconds. And 30 seconds. If you're in a plank or you on one of those Pilates performers. That's a lifetime.

[Olivia Allen]

That's a lifetime.

[Lacey Mosley]

It really is. I'm like 30 seconds has never felt so long stretching my body out for the wars, for the America wars. And I'm like, okay, I have to be the strongest. And I feel like I'm being quartered. But it's like 30 seconds actually is an impactful amount of time to pause. Think about the information you've received before you go to Walmart and get some gift cards and scratch them off and take a picture.

[Olivia Allen]

That's right. Think about it and call someone else that you know and trust. Because my husband's mom, I think at one point called us and was like, they keep saying I owe X amount in taxes. They keep calling and saying that and that I need to pay it, but I don't think think I do. And we looked into it. First of all, the tax bureau's never going to call your cell phone.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. Oh my God. They're the least immediate people ever.

[Olivia Allen]

They're going to snail mail you at your home. So don't ever fall for that because she almost did scams.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Rachel Bilson]

Yes. Oh no. I thought my scamming was the makeout with the boys in seventh grade.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know what? How. How would that be a scam? Did you want to make out with them? Did you like them?

[Rachel Bilson]

I guess, like, you know, I was a willing participant. Sure. No, actually, now I feel like I'm.

[Lacey Mosley]

In some kind of interrogation. I was like, did you want to make out with them? Did you want to.

[Rachel Bilson]

I'm like, okay, how much time do we have? You want to open up that. Okay, let's get into it. No, I think that, you know, recently, some ir, like, stolen identity, IRS stuff with a family member, like, happened recently. So this is all, like, money stuff and nothing. I wish it was something juicier because I wish I could be.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, a lot of it is money stuff. That's why scammers are scamming, right?

[Rachel Bilson]

Right. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Every now and then you find your weirdo who's like, why are you doing this?

[Rachel Bilson]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, we had a episode with Lex P. Which was like, a woman who was scamming doulas.

[Rachel Bilson]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. She wasn't pregnant, and she just kept pretending to be pregnant, and there was no financial benefit from this. She was just a weirdo.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, that's weird.

[Olivia Allen]

Oh, man, that is weird.

[Lacey Mosley]

So every now and then, you get the people. It's like some ego thing or whatever, but typically it's for money. And sometimes I'm like, if you're scamming up, if you're scamming businesses and corporations that aren't being taxed fairly, and you're, like, taking your little coins that you're leaving, I'm like, that's cute. I like that. But if you're, like, preying on people who are trying to get their forever home, that's fucked up.

[Olivia Allen]

Diabolical.

[Rachel Bilson]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, how do you sleep at night? You took all those people's money, and they.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's awful.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So those we don't like as much.

[Rachel Bilson]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

But let's get into historic hoodwinks. So this is my favorite part of the podcast. This is where I will regale you both, Rachel Olivia, with a historic scam, and we'll see if we like it or not. Maybe we hate it. We don't know yet. We will. Okay, so today we're talking about fake Magic Mike. Have either of you ever been to, like, a Magic Mic type show or. Magic Mike?

[Olivia Allen]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, that. That was so fast.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia Allen]

It was fun. Not actual Magic Mike, but, like, one of those dance shows in Vegas.

[Lacey Mosley]

In Vegas, yes. Okay, so can you tell me a little bit about that? Like, what. What happens there?

[Olivia Allen]

I don't remember. Why we were there if it was like a bachelorette party, Were you there?

[Lacey Mosley]

Ra.

[Rachel Bilson]

I don't. I have no recollection. Doesn't mean I wasn't.

[Lacey Mosley]

Doesn't mean you weren't. It's Vegas.

[Olivia Allen]

It was either like a bachelorette or a 21st birthday, something like that. And a group of girls went. And then you watch a show, they all dance and then they come up afterwards and like dance on you in a way that makes you feel like laughing, not like going home with them. Right. So we were all like eh, the whole time. Like get em off of me. None of us found it attractive or.

[Rachel Bilson]

We hired someone to come to the house multiple times. Like a magic mic type.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, a magic man.

[Rachel Bilson]

A magic man came to the house and when he took off his clothes, he was wearing lace thongs, like white lace. White lace panties.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. He was trying to give the girls a show. He was like, you can see through this lace.

[Rachel Bilson]

It was entertaining.

[Olivia Allen]

Well, he kept leaping over the chair like a leap frog. Leap frog in his little white panties. And we were like, who thinks this is sexy? I can't.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was doing calisthenics. Yeah, we were like a joke. That's exactly like it. Horny. I feel for male strippers because unless you're in a like queer environment where it's like male on male, where I feel like they probably like it. Yeah, they probably like really get it up. But when it's a man stripping for women, I feel like they're like, oh yeah. Do you like? It's like it doesn't work. Probably the hardest job in sex work is trying to be a male stripper. To like women who are attracted to men. Because it's like you rubbing oil on your body doesn't do it. Like it's all weird, right? Please stop doing that.

[Olivia Allen]

It makes you laugh, right?

[Rachel Bilson]

It does. It is more entertaining like in a comical way than like a turn on way.

[Lacey Mosley]

We're not like, oh yeah, take those lace panties off. He's so horny.

[Olivia Allen]

I love it when he leap frog.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's so strong.

[Rachel Bilson]

Then there's like the one girl. The one girl that's like the leap frog. Well, there was one girl that was into it.

[Olivia Allen]

She went, she went for it.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, I don't remember.

[Olivia Allen]

You don't remember that I don't have a girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, it's giving dancing bear. If you know, you know. Yeah, there's always one who's like, I'm here for this. Shake that peen in my face. I love it. And we love that girl. Because we need one. We need somebody who's so into it.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause most people want one, and he needs one.

[Rachel Bilson]

You don't want him to feel like he's failing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Exactly.

[Olivia Allen]

He definitely walked away not feeling like a failure.

[Rachel Bilson]

See, I know I don't remember what she is like, getting at over there.

[Lacey Mosley]

But apparently I love it, and I feel like I know a little bit. You get it? Yeah, I get it. You need one of those girls where you can be like, oh, my God, Stacy, last night, y' all saw when she had a stripper penis in her mouth.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah, it was for the plot.

[Rachel Bilson]

Everyone needs that friend.

[Lacey Mosley]

We need it for the plot. Yeah, we need it for the plot. We wake up the next morning, oh, girl, when did you go to bed? When did you go to bed? Did y' all see Stacey with the penis? Oh, yeah, we did. Like, and everyone's having a great time. Okay. Someone has to lean in. Someone has to take a sip of the Kool Aid just, like, a little. And then we're all having a great time. Okay. Because if everyone's laughing and everyone's standoffish, it's like, did we really get our money's worth? But if one person just dive on in, just dives in, dives on the grenade.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh. Woo.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then the stripper left feeling great.

[Rachel Bilson]

Everyone felt great.

[Olivia Allen]

Everyone got paid. It was good.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a great time. That sounds beautiful. So we are talking about a fake Magic Mike right now. So let's see. Maybe we like him, maybe we hate him. We don't know yet. But as two women who have worked in Hollywood and really made your marks, I hope that this will be a little familiar to you. And I'm so excited to see what you think. Not that familiar.

[Olivia Allen]

I was like, is this.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know. I'm like, yeah, this is an ambush. No, no, not the guy. So a Hollywood producer stole more than 4 million from investors who thought they were buying a stake in Magic Mike Live, the strip show in Vegas. They were actually financing his personal tour of the the seediest casinos on the eastern seaboard. So he was taking this money. He was like, y' all are gonna be investors in Magic Mike Live. But he was actually taking the money and using it to.

[Rachel Bilson]

And gambling in the casinos.

[Olivia Allen]

Oh, he wasn't doing a show at all. No show.

[Rachel Bilson]

He just took the money and gambled in Atlantic City.

[Lacey Mosley]

So it's like, oh, you had one Magic Mike at your house in the white lace panties. How about funding Magic Mike Live? Do y' all wanna buy some Shares. Y' all wanna get some investments going, right? Could you imagine at the end of, like, a bachelorette fun, and someone's like, do y' all want to invest after?

[Rachel Bilson]

After? Like the male stripper?

[Lacey Mosley]

Y' all want to get some crypto?

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia Allen]

And this is him.

[Rachel Bilson]

Wait, yeah, this is the dude.

[Lacey Mosley]

John Santilli. This is him. And his face looks a little bloated, but I don't know. I feel like this is a guy that you give money to for investments. He looks like a guy that you give money to for investments.

[Rachel Bilson]

Like, you would see him and you would be like, I will invest.

[Lacey Mosley]

His cheeks are a little thick for me. For investment. Like, you're a little bloated. Like, we're not doing any gua sha. We're not, you know, we're drinking too much.

[Olivia Allen]

Maybe too much alcohol.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. But I would also be like, well, maybe he's drinking so much so he can get good at investments. He never sleeps and just does investments.

[Rachel Bilson]

Okay.

[Olivia Allen]

There's a fine line with white men. They either look really trustworthy or they look like they're trying to look trustworthy. And that's someone that, to me, looks like he's trying to look trustworthy and doesn't. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Lacey Mosley]

I do, but almost like him not trying makes me think that he's more trustworthy because he's like, I don't have to try. It's like all of those rich people you see who are, like, wearing, like, what, New Balance, and they have, like, an iPhone7, but they're like billionaires. It's like, oh, they just invest in different things.

[Rachel Bilson]

But he looks 41.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no. Is. Oh, was that supposed to be his age, Rachel?

[Rachel Bilson]

Well, I mean, that's my guess.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my goodness.

[Rachel Bilson]

No, no, Those are his credits. Got it. Okay. Just kidding. 41 credits. Not 41 years old.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was about to say. But you know what? He probably is 41 in that picture. He probably 37 in that picture.

[Rachel Bilson]

He's 22.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a hard. It's giving me a hard 37.

[Rachel Bilson]

Huh?

[Lacey Mosley]

Where you're like. They tell you your age, and you get shocked and they think that, you know, we're all polite. So sometimes you get shocked by people's age, and it's because, oh, they look younger. But a lot of times you get shocked because they tell you their age and like, oh, I thought you were way older. But you don't say that part out loud. So you're just like, oh, oh, he.

[Rachel Bilson]

Had a flyer Magic Mike live at the Sahara in Vegas.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is that what women want? Jeans?

[Olivia Allen]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, I love a man with some dungarees, with his thigh muscles popping out. I love a dungaree thigh. I don't know if that's what. I don't know if they ran this by any women. Like, I'll tell you, focus groups. I'll tell you.

[Olivia Allen]

I think that there's something highly unattractive about a man trying to look sexy.

[Rachel Bilson]

Like, try.

[Lacey Mosley]

I struggle with this. You do, because the queerness of it all. I've seen some gay men, like, really throw down some. Like. And I'm like, yes. Like, I'm living for it. It is easier for women because, like, I think our body is just sexier than the man's body. Like, all they can do is arms and abs. Because nobody wants to see your penis. No one wants to. Like, that's just not hot. You know what I mean? Like, women can, like, pull the thong up all the way to where you can see, like, the outlines of the coochie, the moose knuckles. My. My hood priestess. Gorilla calls it. She my moose. Look, if you haven't listened to her hood affirmations, you really should. They're great for the mornings and for the workouts.

[Rachel Bilson]

I love it.

[Lacey Mosley]

But, you know, every day, the day gonna end. Okay. Every day the sun don't shine. That's why I love tomorrow. Okay, Glorilla. Amen. But there's just something about justice. Put up her prayer hands. Amen. Yes. There's something about a man in with his hand. He's trying to look sexy, and it absolutely makes me want to laugh.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Rachel Bilson]

No, it's. Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

I'm not mad at a man being sexy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

It's just different when they're trying to.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. It's like, if you want to be sexy, like, have your abs out, but, like, I think you have to hold a dog, guys. I think you gotta hold a dog or a child. Yeah. Oh, a child. Oh, I know. Oh, and let it be your little niece or nephew. And we like, oh, you got your great uncle.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

A toolbox. Ooh. Cameron. Activities, activities. That's where we really lost men. They don't build houses no more. They don't know how to lay, like, grout and shit. And we're like, what?

[Rachel Bilson]

Like, lay grout? That's your one thing on. Like, listen, can you lay grout? You can lay grout.

[Lacey Mosley]

You can lay pipe. And we can get. And we get into it. I'm no longer looking for men in Hollywood. I'm like, do you own a company that opens garage doors? Do you like, who's making the company for the electrical outlet? Is that your family?

[Olivia Allen]

That's mine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Then we can. We can be in love. That's the kind of wealth I'm looking for. I don't want no actors. I don't want no producers, no directors. Nobody in this business. I'm like, do you own drywall? Like, do you have the market on drywall? Let's fall in love. Like, let's be serious. Oh, my God, Yeah. Like, let's. You know what I mean? I want a boring ass man who can fix my house. Okay.

[Rachel Bilson]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I never see a smoke detector going off. I never have a light bulb that's not lit. You know what I mean? Yep. Do you make the little wire in the light bulb? We can get very specific. That's good. I've been looking around my house like a dating show. Like, what kind of man do I want? Who put the ceiling in here? Who put these glass? Somebody owns glass. Oh, that's what I'm looking for.

[Rachel Bilson]

I like that. It's the detail of the wire in the lamp of the light bulb.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. That's who I want. I have a homegirl and like, maybe years into our relationship, she was like, you know, she just randomly was like, you know, I love how you don't care about, like, what I do, like my family does or anything like that. And I knew she was rich because her job was board of trustees. Like, that was her job. And I was like, you don't have a board job if your family isn't rich. But I didn't care about any of that. So we were just homies. Yeah. And then one time she was like, yeah, I just love that you don't care about my last name. And. Cause she was talking about someone else, I guess, who did. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. I don't really care. And I can't say the last name. But I will say that like you've ever been in a hospital. You've got it probably laid on this last name. And I was like, like, that's why I need to marry. Like, do you have any cousins? Yes. Let's be serious, sis. Cuz like, that's what I want. Something boring. Like who. Who is the Band Aid heiress? Aram Heiress or Aram Ar. They. Whoever. That's. That's who I could be with, you know, I don't want anybody in the entertainment industry. I just want you to be rich and quietly rich. Oh, my God.

[Rachel Bilson]

I'm dying at night.

[Lacey Mosley]

You're Googling.

[Rachel Bilson]

You're like Band Aid.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm Googling the most basic shit. Cause I'm like, if it's everywhere, then somebody's rich. You know what I mean?

[Rachel Bilson]

You're smart. I like the way you think.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. We have to do that now. So we're talking about fake Magic Mike. We're talking about that Hollywood producer who may or may not be 41. He's got 41 credits. Maybe. He's definitely got 41 years in life, Olivia. So you're not wrong. You're not wrong. We're somewhere around his age. And so here's the real credits from him. So according to his IMDb page, which he has John Santilli.

[Rachel Bilson]

Okay?

[Olivia Allen]

He's got a lovely wife.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. She getting cheated on. So John Santilli was born because look, she. Them heels. Those. Those are not the heels of a woman who runs through someone's phone like. Those are the heels of a trusting woman. She ain't never looked at an icloud or nothing. Jesus.

[Olivia Allen]

You just mean.

[Lacey Mosley]

That'S the best thing. She trusts her man implicitly and too much. Yeah, just from the heels and yike. Too much.

[Olivia Allen]

That is brilliant.

[Rachel Bilson]

Brilliant.

[Lacey Mosley]

She trusts him too much. She got all the credit cards, but she makes sensible purchases. No, sis, he's cheating. Yeah, that's why you.

[Rachel Bilson]

Sensible purchase.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. It's cheaper to keep her. Cause you gotta run the card up so he can't afford another bitch. Oh, yeah. No, she's being too ethical. No, no, no. We can see. We can see. But you know, she's gonna have a good life. Cause she seems very smart. She's giving me like, Jeff Bezos wife. Not Jeff Bezos. Who is the man? The Amazon man. Is that Jeff Bezos? Yeah, it is. His wife.

[Olivia Allen]

His first wife.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Giving first wife. Jess Bezos. Jeff Bezos. I don't need to say your name correctly, man. So According to his IMDb page, John Cintilli was born in Rhode island and first worked on a Hollywood production as an office intern on the 2004 Josh Harnett movie Wicker Park. So he was an office intern on Wicker Park. Josh Harnett is hot. Never heard of Wicker Park. This helps me a lot. Cause I be doing random ass shit that I'm like, no one's ever gonna hear of this. And I'm like, well, you know what? I gotta do it. Nicole Kidman, Josh Harnett. So many people have so many random movies that they did. And I'm like, this is a part of the art.

[Rachel Bilson]

I remember that movie.

[Olivia Allen]

You do?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah. It looks sexy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ooh. That was in the time when curly haired women were winning. Cause I saw a curly haired woman in there. I don. I just remember Felicity cut her hair and it was really down bad for the curly haired women after that.

[Olivia Allen]

We're curly haired women.

[Rachel Bilson]

You just don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

But your hair is straight.

[Olivia Allen]

She's so stupid, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

We had. And at the same. This is like a mild curly, but I have a very tight coil. But we were like curly haired women, they're getting murdered and they can't have jobs. They're getting murdered, they can't have employment. So we have to straighten our hair.

[Olivia Allen]

If we want to. If we want to survive.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. That was like a Diane Kruger. Is it.

[Rachel Bilson]

It looks like her.

[Lacey Mosley]

It does.

[Rachel Bilson]

I think it's her.

[Lacey Mosley]

She has that, like Carrie Bradshaw. Han. Sarah Jessica Parker.

[Rachel Bilson]

We love a Sarah Jessica Parker.

[Lacey Mosley]

So in 2013, this man, John Santilli, he was the executive producer of the English Teacher. Oh, I remember that. Which starred Julianne Moore and Greg Kinnear. Yes. We love Julianne Moore. Love, love. Is she a red grave?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah. Is she?

[Lacey Mosley]

I think so.

[Rachel Bilson]

She might be, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's. Yeah, she's from like a really bad bitch family of actresses. So this man, again, John, I'm just gonna call him John from here on out. John. He co produced the 2019 film Vault, about a group of small time criminals who attempted to pull off the biggest heist in American history by stealing $30 million from the mafia in Providence in 1975. So this is Vault, and this is.

[Olivia Allen]

Where he learned.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was taking real notes on the job. Yeah. He was like, you did a wedding.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah, in Providence. He's from Rhode Island.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was like, people will learn a lot from this. People. Not me. I am people. But, yeah, I think he learned a lot. So he was a producer on Bill and Ted, Face the Music in 2020, and most recently an executive producer on the 2024 Lifetime movie held Hostage in My House. Yeah. Oh, I love Keanu.

[Rachel Bilson]

We went. Wait, Keanu. But we went from the English Patient to a Lifetime. What was it?

[Lacey Mosley]

We went from the English Patient to Vault. This movie, Keanu.

[Rachel Bilson]

I mean, like the jump from, like, doing stuff like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now he's a Lifetime.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah. So what. What. What's happening?

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? Cause that's. That is like. I love that you bring that up, Rachel, because that is like tickling my fancy a little bit. It's like, how did you go from like these prestigious movies to now we doing Lifetime joints.

[Rachel Bilson]

He was in the casinos.

[Lacey Mosley]

He must have been.

[Olivia Allen]

He must have ruined his.

[Lacey Mosley]

He must have ruined something. Either it's gambling debt or relationships.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, what's this picture?

[Lacey Mosley]

He's very sweaty in places.

[Rachel Bilson]

Is he? Which one is he?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, he's the non sweaty one. And that one. Okay, we're moving very fast here, Jess. Can we go back to the other picture? Okay, so that's him with his prime time T shirt next to a very sweaty man holding a bottle of water. Yeah, these people are entire. Intoxicated.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oops, sorry, that's.

[Olivia Allen]

I just banged my head.

[Lacey Mosley]

Are you okay?

[Rachel Bilson]

Did you.

[Olivia Allen]

No, I'm fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's very clear that at least the man in the pink has been sweating. We don't know.

[Rachel Bilson]

I think it's safe to say he's been sweating.

[Lacey Mosley]

We don't know what he's been doing, but he's definitely been sweating in.

[Rachel Bilson]

He's holding a bottle of water.

[Lacey Mosley]

That feels like a triage choice to me. Like, he was like, oh, I'm so wet. I should probably hydrate, you know.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, I'm so wet. I want people to think I poured this bottle of water.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's too.

[Lacey Mosley]

He didn't really seal the bit. And he also is. Is he wearing a Kango hat? What year is this? Is this 2007? It's giving me.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, it's Dave Bautista. What? You guys don't know who that is? He's like.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was in a band. Wrestling.

[Rachel Bilson]

What is it? Is he a wrestler?

[Lacey Mosley]

Dave Bautista was in a band? I thought, no.

[Rachel Bilson]

He's like a big no.

[Lacey Mosley]

But getting a no from just not in a band. He was in Guardians of the Galaxy. He was in Guardians of the Galaxy?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah, he's a big actor. He was like a wrestler also.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is like a cool picture. I guess then.

[Rachel Bilson]

So it's showing. It's showing that he's legitimate. People.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm with this sweaty guy who's a guy that people. Sorry.

[Rachel Bilson]

We just called him so sweaty.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, sorry, Dave. We love you, Dave Bautista.

[Olivia Allen]

Maybe he was dancing, you know?

[Rachel Bilson]

I hope he was dancing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Robbery.

[Rachel Bilson]

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[Olivia Allen]

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[Rachel Bilson]

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Olivia Allen]

It was never a good hat.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. I've never seen a man.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's like a newsy, like, vibe.

[Lacey Mosley]

Kangal.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah. And like, I see people try to bring it back and anytime I see it on, really, it is. It's not a no for you, It's.

[Olivia Allen]

A no for me.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a no. Just like, open to the Keiko hat. Are you open to the hat? Not at all. You're like, they throw a paper and it's like, ooh, you threw that straw.

[Olivia Allen]

I just don't see anyone wearing.

[Rachel Bilson]

Got it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. You know what that means? You have a very well curated social circle. That's right. No one would ever wear that in my presence.

[Olivia Allen]

Not in my house.

[Lacey Mosley]

They know. They know they can't wear that. Yeah, that. Ha. And it's like striped. It's probably Burberry. So he probably thought that was a good idea. But designers make terrible things too. Guys, Burberry spot. We love Burt Berry. So. So we see him photographed with Dave Bautista, Chrissy Teigen and wait. Oh, my God, Neo. What?

[Olivia Allen]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

He got on that. He has the hat on. This is 2007. You can't tell me I'm wrong. 2024. This is 2024. Neo, please be serious. I know you so sick of love songs. I'm so sick of these hats. But, Neo, I understand. You got a milk that head. What are you gonna do? Like, I get it. I understand. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God.

[Olivia Allen]

That's really.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you know that little girl who's smiling real hard, she was recently informed, probably right before this picture, who this negro was in this newsy hat. She was like, let's take a picture with this man, baby girl. And she was like, okay. No, he made that. So sick of Love song. He made like, they, like, ran down his. And she was. Oh, I've seen some of those on TikTok. Because, you know, a lot of the Gen Z, like, the Gen Z's now like, to love their new thing is, like, they use old music, like Flo Rider, like, Apple bottom, like, whatever it is. And they're like, oh, we just discovered this. Who is this diva? They love to be like, who is this diva? And it's Celine Dion. Like, who is this diva? And it's Cher. Like, we're like, y' all don't know no history and y' all can't read. We got strikes against y', all, like, what's going on. But they love to do that. And we can't do that in our age and go back to our songs that we love. Because I'm like, whispering to my Gen Z relatives and stuff. I'm like, yeah, bring back, like, Get Low by Flo Rida. And also bring back in da Club by 50 Cent. Because if we do it, they're like, you're so old. We've never heard this song. But if they do it, they're like a new song we've never heard about. And now we're gonna do arm. Oh, no.

[Rachel Bilson]

My 10 year old, she's like, no, mom, this is Get Low. And I'm like, how do you know that?

[Lacey Mosley]

And it's their first discovery of it.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yep. And they're like, or low. Is it just low?

[Lacey Mosley]

Sorry, you talking about T, babe. Low. Low. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's apple bottom. Jean boots with the first. I definitely had boots with the furs.

[Rachel Bilson]

I think we all do.

[Olivia Allen]

And the whole club was looking at her.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, she hit the flow. Next thing you know, shot it. Get low.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Low, low, Low. Low. Yes, it is low. It's Low by Florida.

[Rachel Bilson]

Thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. So I feel like that girl in that picture was recently, like, almost right before the Flash, informed of who Neo was. Cuz look, now she's happy. She's like. They showed her a TikTok and she's like, okay, yeah, this is a good picture. Okay. My friends gonna like this very much. That's so. I'm sad that he's wearing that newsy hat and that I brought him up before I even knew he was in this. That is.

[Olivia Allen]

Wait, remind me how much money he got.

[Lacey Mosley]

So 4 million from investors.

[Rachel Bilson]

I thought you meant Neo. And I'm like, what happened?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no, John. John got 4 million.

[Olivia Allen]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

So we got these photos of him with Neo, with the girl who recently learned about Neo, Chrissy Teigen. Which I feel like Chrissy Teigen is always in some mess. So this, that tracks to me. I feel like she's one of those people who. And I can't share the personal stories that I know, but I feel like she's just one of those people who's like, oh, y' all got drama going on. What happened? And then she's just like listening and getting all the information. She's not a part of it. She's never named. She's not a witness, but she's like, and what happened? I feel like her hair is full of secrets and her eyebrows. So love that for her. So the biggest lie was his connection to Magic Mike. The 2012 film Magic Mike, based on Channing Tatum's real life stripper origin story, which I did not know that part. Did y' all know that Magic Mike was based off Channing? Really? Stripping and stripping.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I didn't know that.

[Rachel Bilson]

Florida too.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow.

[Rachel Bilson]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

A Florida stripper. That changes everything.

[Rachel Bilson]

Wait, I'm pretty sure you might. I'm right. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause like, if we're talking Miami, then it's like acrobatic bats. Simone Biles on a pole. Like those people.

[Olivia Allen]

We want that.

[Lacey Mosley]

That used to be a joke amongst actresses and stuff. We'd be like, oh, well, at least amongst my comedian friends would be like, well, if this don't work out, I guess I'll just take up stripping. But then I took a pole class and I was like, I do not have the upper body strength. This.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's a workout.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm like, therefore goes my whole plan B. I'm like, I can't even do this. Like, I saw women surfboarding. Do you know what that is?

[Rachel Bilson]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

So surfboard is where a stripper, like, goes. Like, two strippers go up on the same pole and one gets to, like, the one who's underneath, who goes second. She lays flat on the pole and the other stripper on top of her. Puts her feet on the woman's flat body, and then they start spinning in a circle.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's not.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. On the top of the pole. Like, 50 foot high. Like, I was in Club Live watching this, and I was like, here's money. Like, the men had given me the money. It was like, football players and whatever, Whatever. And we were like, in college. So we be like, some for the strippers, some for me. I would wake up with money in my bra, and I'd be like, I don't think I earned this. I hope not, but I deserve it, right? I'm like, whatever. But, yeah, like, something for y'. All. Something for my bra. Something for y'.

[Rachel Bilson]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

Something for my bra. And, like, they were very talented. And I was like, I don't. I'm not strong.

[Olivia Allen]

No, it takes. It takes talent.

[Rachel Bilson]

It takes strength and precision. A lot of core sex work is work.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was like, oh, this is an employment. Y' all gotta. I gotta get my hair done all the time and my nails and do my makeup. No, y' all got it. God bless. Not for me.

[Olivia Allen]

It is work.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's hard work. So it's interesting to me to think of a male doing it, especially in Florida, where you got Florida, man. Because, like, Florida releases their arrests. Like, all their documentation that goes under arrest gets released faster than most states. So that's why you always see, like, Florida, man, ADA family on barbiturates. Like, you know, like. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. They released their info very quickly. And so you'll always see, like, Florida, man. This Florida, man. So I'm like, he was over here shaking his lace white panty in Florida. Like, that's crazy.

[Olivia Allen]

And he had really plucked eyebrows, didn't he?

[Rachel Bilson]

She has the details. I just remember the details.

[Lacey Mosley]

Super plucked eyebrows. That's the specific that I like, isn't it? Yeah, because you're, like.

[Olivia Allen]

You decided to be a stripper and really go hard on your eyebrows at the same time.

[Lacey Mosley]

He knew what the girls like, you know, he was like, they, like when it's. And you know that it was plucked because of the timing. Yeah, because, like, you can tell a plug. You do. Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

I don't know. I wish I had it on me. Dang it. I kept it forever. It was in my phone. It was him.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's it.

[Olivia Allen]

That's the picture I have.

[Rachel Bilson]

No. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

No fucking way. I've been.

[Olivia Allen]

I've been carrying that around in my phone.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God, y'. All. Shannon was booty naked.

[Rachel Bilson]

Is he naked?

[Lacey Mosley]

He looked he's got, like.

[Rachel Bilson]

He has, like.

[Lacey Mosley]

He got a thong on. Okay. Oh, he got a little eyebrow piercing.

[Olivia Allen]

Maybe it's the eyebrow piercing, but do.

[Rachel Bilson]

You think that girl has that picture framed now that Channing is.

[Lacey Mosley]

I hope she does. I hope she does, because I would. That used to be hanging in the foyer of my house. Like, when you walk into, like, your kids. Yeah. Kids need to know.

[Rachel Bilson]

Ms. Channing Tatum.

[Olivia Allen]

That used to be my screensaver.

[Lacey Mosley]

That is high art. And I love how he really leaned into the bit of, like, he was committed. Well, I'm giving bisexual energy. He got an eyebrow piercing that always says, you sucked a little dick.

[Rachel Bilson]

And.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was like, I want everybody's money. Everybody's money. He was successful. Okay. Yeah. Look, look. He making all the women feel so good.

[Rachel Bilson]

They feel so good.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you know, this ain't her bachelorette party. She probably the best bride. What do they call it? Maid of honor. There we go. Best bride, maid of honor. And she got a toxic boyfriend that all her friends hate that she can't really talk about at the dinners and the. But right now, in this moment, she felt real special love.

[Rachel Bilson]

And in her face, like, please don't let my boyfriend see this picture.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right.

[Olivia Allen]

Oh, look at him.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Her face is like, I'm not that turned on by him, but she definitely would.

[Olivia Allen]

But how do you feel about a guy sitting on your lap, riding you? Like, is that the vibe?

[Rachel Bilson]

Maybe like that?

[Lacey Mosley]

Like that?

[Olivia Allen]

Like, it feels a little. You know what it feels?

[Lacey Mosley]

What does it feel? It feels.

[Olivia Allen]

Feels a little effeminate for me.

[Lacey Mosley]

See, I don't mind that you like that. I'm on the spectrum of, like, queerness. So, like, I like girls who are bo. Girls who are more masculine and boys who are more feminine. So I would. And he's a dancer. He's probably doing hella body rolls.

[Olivia Allen]

You're right.

[Lacey Mosley]

So you'll probably see every AB go up and down like a roller coaster.

[Rachel Bilson]

If it was Channing on your lap, you would not be, like, see, but.

[Olivia Allen]

Like, Harry Styles would feel right to me on my lap.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's crazy. I thought you were gonna say he would feel wrong. Harry Styles would feel wrong on my lap.

[Olivia Allen]

He would feel right on my lap.

[Lacey Mosley]

But, Channing, watermelon shake. I don't wanna see that one.

[Rachel Bilson]

He has felt great, guys.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look at that arch. Okay. I'm a dancer, a movement man, a man of movement.

[Rachel Bilson]

But the way Chani can move, I feel like you would be down.

[Olivia Allen]

You're right.

[Lacey Mosley]

He might do, like, a couple grinds. You Would be hesitant for the first two grinds. And then the song comes on.

[Rachel Bilson]

She just saw that last picture.

[Lacey Mosley]

I just saw the last picture, and I was like, I'm in. Like, I feel like towards the end, you'd be like, you know what? You've committed so hard to this bit. You got an eyebrow ring. You got your eyebrows. You really are committed. And I think you would commit to the bit.

[Olivia Allen]

You're right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Just the performer in you even would just be like, you know what?

[Olivia Allen]

We're here.

[Lacey Mosley]

Grind on me in your jeans. 100%.

[Olivia Allen]

I mean, look at that picture, though.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't like how men, strippers, just be wearing jeans a lot. There's too many. Too many pictures of them in dungarees. Like, I don't want. No, that's the friction.

[Olivia Allen]

Tell me if I would like them in baggy sweatpants.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh. Because that's like, the horror attire for men. Yeah. Whenever you see a man in a gray sweatpant and, you know, they try to let their little things show.

[Rachel Bilson]

I like that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. They're being hoochies. We know what y' all are. We know what you are. But a jean is just too rough for me. I'm like, I get it. Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

The jean is a little off putting.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's a little chafing.

[Lacey Mosley]

But, yeah, if you gonna be grinding. Yeah, have your banana thong on. But he has a full jean and a belt on. He has a full belt.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, the belt that hurts.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

And look where her hand is. She's definitely in a relationship. She was like, y' all can take a picture of me, but just in case my man ever sees. That's such an appropriate picture. I feel like she could show her kids that. She's like, look at me. Enchanted Tatum. And I was being a good Christian.

[Olivia Allen]

Mom.

[Lacey Mosley]

While he grinds me.

[Rachel Bilson]

Look at, like, close up of her face. Really uncomfortable.

[Lacey Mosley]

She looked like she just left service. She was like, we doing meals on wheels. Okay. And now I'm with Channing Tatum. He's grinding his dungarees.

[Rachel Bilson]

We just left service.

[Lacey Mosley]

Amen. That's a good Christian mom right there. Shout out to your kids, mama. Yes. So the biggest lie that John told was his connection to Magic Mike. Right. So we talked about Channing Tatum. It's his real life, obviously. We've seen his stripper energy. We'll post that on the Instagram. Y' all can see his stripper energy and decide if you're a Rachel who's, like, a little turned on by or Olivia who's like, no jeans. No jeans on me. You know, we all fall somewhere on the spectrum of jeans or banana hammock. So we'll figure it out together. So that was his real origin story. Tatum. Channing Tatum. Right. That movie grossed 167 million globally against a $7 million budget. And when you don't have to buy clothes, I'm sure that really helps. So that led to a 2015 sequel, Magic movie Mike XXL, which cost $14 million. So they added a little money to the budget to make it, and it took $123 million in the box office because the ladies were horny. I also feel like this is a nice, like, Midwestern bachelorette moment where you don't knock the mic, where you don't have to, like, you know, when sometimes bachelorettes are like the reconvening of friends who don't talk regularly. So there's some people in the party who you haven't seen in a while. I keep hitting the mic. I'm so sorry for y' all with the misop. But, like, you see some girlies that you're like, we talk regularly. We know what our kids are doing. You know, we talked about when we got the gate around the pool and whatever. Like, we're very, like, good Judy's. But then you have other friends who. It's like, she's a fun time. She might be the one who's at the, you know, strip up party, who puts the dick in her mouth. And we're like, we gotta bring her. Cause she gonna bring the vibes.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then you all get together, and sometimes it's too much talking. I feel like this will be a nice little break from talking. Like, oh, yeah. And then we have a. You know, you got one Virgo who made the whole schedul. She got all the whole itinerary, like, laid down. And she was like. And then we're gonna take a little break from talking. Cause we all hate each other a little bit. And we're gonna go see Magic Mike in the movies. Right.

[Rachel Bilson]

Have to have something to do.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. We get a little horny.

[Rachel Bilson]

I've never seen any of those movies. You haven't either. I've never.

[Olivia Allen]

Fun, you guys.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. I love this music. Cause she has the research.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's right.

[Olivia Allen]

In the theater, it was bananas.

[Rachel Bilson]

Girls were going crazy.

[Olivia Allen]

Girls were going crazy. It was so much fun. So much fun.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is like that chicken jockey moment.

[Olivia Allen]

Exactly. Chicken jockey.

[Rachel Bilson]

What is chicken jockey?

[Lacey Mosley]

Chicken jockey. So the theaters now are actively trying to get, like, People in the Minecraft movie, like, the kids to stop throwing popcorn and bringing live chickens to the movie theater. What? Yes. Because the chicken jockey moment has people going crazy, and they're, like, throwing things. They got live chickens, they're going crazy. And the poor theater workers are like, we got. You gotta sweep this up and chase a chicken after a movie.

[Olivia Allen]

There was. I went with my kids, and there was so much popcorn afterwards. Cause right when they say chicken jockey in the movie, all the kids get up and go buck wild, and they're like, chicken jockey. And they throw all their stuff.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's the first time I've ever heard of the chicken jockey.

[Lacey Mosley]

Honestly, I think you gotta take the L a little bit. Movie theaters. I'm sorry to the workers, but we getting people back in movie theaters.

[Olivia Allen]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look, this is what Nicole Kidman and Tom. Kidding. Cruise. Oddly, that they were married at one point, but they've been working to get the. The asses back in the movie theater seats. Okay. Nicole was like, hurt feels good in a place like this. And Tom Cruise was like, I will jump off anything. Get back in the theater.

[Rachel Bilson]

I will jump off anything.

[Lacey Mosley]

Honestly, I know that they're adding stunts to the Oscars now. The first Oscars for stunts should just be back. Oscars that people are owed. Tom Cruise give him his Oscar stunts for everything. Jackie Chan give him his Oscar stunts.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, they're adding an award. Like, you get an oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

As they should. Comedy category. Crazy.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's insane.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I will point that out again. It's so disrespectful. Because how many times are you gonna watch a comedic movie versus how many times you're gonna be like, oh, y', all, we got some. We got some. Some weed and some edibles and some. And some liquor. Y' all come over. We're gonna watch 12 Years a Slave. You're never gonna watch it again. You appreciate it. You don't watch it again. You're not like, hey, y', all. Yeah, let's turn on my favorite movie. You know, like Fruitvale Station. No, they're great movies, but we're not watching them again. We're not like, no. Yes.

[Rachel Bilson]

No, I. I am with you.

[Olivia Allen]

You know they added podcasts to the Golden Globe.

[Rachel Bilson]

What?

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ooh, That's a game.

[Rachel Bilson]

There you go.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, hold on, y'. All. Y' all know we're recommended or not recommended. We are nominated for a Critics Choice Award. Okay? Bam, bam, bam. And I have some webbies. I got them during COVID so shonda Rhimes presented me a webby on Zoom. Yeah. Now the girls putting on dresses and shit. I was like, this is so ghetto. I got Webby in my house, but nobody knows. Oh, let's break them out.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah, let's get you some more Webbies.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. I feel like y' all are gonna give me some more. I really appreciate that. So these movies grossed a high amount of money, right?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yes. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Channing and his business partners raised $8 million, including some of their own money, to open a live show in 2017. Seats for the show, which started out at Hard Rock Hotel, and now it, like, runs five nights a week at the Sahara on the Vegas Strip. So the Hard Rock Hotel is not on. It's a little. It's a little. I'm not gonna call this CD Hard Rock sponsor the show, but it's not glamorous. Yeah. So they started at the Hard Rock, but then they upgraded to the Sahara, which is on the strip. So a company called Mike's Mobile Detailing LLC operates the Magic Mike live stage show. The show is owned by free association. I'm putting quotes up. I know you can't see me. A company co owned by Channing Tatum. So Channing is getting his hands in the live production of He. And you know what?

[Rachel Bilson]

Good for him.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just like Cardi B. He used to be a stripper. He know the stripper gang.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. I love this.

[Olivia Allen]

I do, too.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he had a right.

[Rachel Bilson]

They're all in jeans, by the way. Sorry.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why are they.

[Olivia Allen]

They're all in jeans.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why would you tell me that? Why are they in jeans? I know they hot. It's like, they don't have shirts on, and then the lower half is just dungarees. What are we doing?

[Olivia Allen]

What are we doing?

[Lacey Mosley]

Wait.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's choreographed. It's genuine.

[Lacey Mosley]

So genuine. Pony.

[Rachel Bilson]

I love it so much. Oh, come on.

[Olivia Allen]

Hey, guys. That looks fun.

[Rachel Bilson]

It does look fun.

[Lacey Mosley]

It looks good.

[Rachel Bilson]

Time.

[Lacey Mosley]

And they got them spread across the stage. So everybody gets a little piece of the gene.

[Rachel Bilson]

Man of the jean. Everybody gets a piece of the jean. Wait, I'm impressed. They're all flip.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, hold on.

[Olivia Allen]

I like it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nothing sexual. I definitely think back flip. Back flip into me. That's hot. Oh, oh, okay. That's.

[Olivia Allen]

They're doing it.

[Rachel Bilson]

They're really doing it.

[Lacey Mosley]

They really humping the floor, y'. All. Like, we'll post the video. They are. Oh, okay.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's commitment.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's good choreography.

[Olivia Allen]

I'm not mad at it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like chicken. Channing was involved in the choreo.

[Rachel Bilson]

100%.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. That was a little steamy and whatnot.

[Olivia Allen]

Okay, that was good.

[Rachel Bilson]

So you're like, I'd invest.

[Olivia Allen]

I'd invest. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Let me get some shares. Let me get some shares of that. Oh, my goodness. So Channing had a writing partner who was Reed Carolyn, and he also had another partner, which was his former manager, Peter Kernan. So John is not involved in any of this. What we just saw with the air humping and the ground humping and the back backflips. He's not involved, but he's saying he is. So like Mike, but not. He did manage to partly own. This is John. An entertainment firm named Alloris. Okay, Alloris. Sounds alluring.

[Rachel Bilson]

Sounds like a car.

[Lacey Mosley]

It does.

[Olivia Allen]

The new Aloris.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, it's like a Tesla car, for sure. Aloris Entertainment, which acquired an interest in Mike's Mobile Detailing, which is Channing Tatum's company. Right. The company that operates the Magic Mike Live that we just saw with the back lips. Like the air humping. So the scam started in June of 2016 when John began raising more than $4 million by soliciting investments in Alloris. Magic Mike LP, a different business that he falsely told investors owned a stake in the live show. He told investors that in return for their money, they would receive shares in Allure's Magic Mike LP that corresponded to a particular number of investment units and entitled them to a percentage of the profits from Magic Mic Mike Live. But to make the story seem real, John used a doctored legal document that made it appear that ALORIS Magic Mike L.P. was a shareholder of Mike's Mobile Detailing. He also had a pic of himself with channing Tatum on IMDb.

[Rachel Bilson]

He also looks like Michael Kane right there.

[Lacey Mosley]

This also just scares me. Like, I don't know how y' all feel, because I know you've both been in the public eye for quite some time, but you take pictures with people who want to take a picture to be nice.

[Rachel Bilson]

You think that's what that is?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, for sure. And, like, obviously, like, he used to be a stripper. He know how to make the girls feel good. He's like, I put my arm around.

[Rachel Bilson]

That was my old pal, cuz. His arms around him. You don't like if a fan comes up. I don't think Channing's, like, putting his arm around every dude that comes out.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, he is, because he used to be a scripper. When he was a scripper, he was.

[Rachel Bilson]

Probably making all the real friendly.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Remember with the girl with the hands who was like, I still go to church. But he was riding on her. She was in the jeans. And I feel like the nicest celebs will make a picture not feel like it's staged. You know what I mean? Cause like you can like stand next to someone and put up a peace sign or a pointy finger, you know, something that makes it like, we don't know each other, but we're taking this picture.

[Rachel Bilson]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

But some people, it's like this still feels to me like a staged photo because if I'm with my friends, someone's gonna catch the picture and we're like either mid laugh or doing something or the opposite where we're both posed like bad bitches. And it's like, you know, you got one hand up, like trying to cover your little stomach roll. Or like you got. You know what I mean? Like, it's like angles. This is like, oh, can we get a picture, man?

[Olivia Allen]

Can I get a picture of that?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

And it's like, sure, no problem.

[Lacey Mosley]

Boom. Arm around you. Boom.

[Rachel Bilson]

I mean, it does look like a little bit of a lean in. Like a quick lean in on you.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah, like, hey, man, can I draw a picture?

[Lacey Mosley]

But it's almost giving me like, yeah, he's leaning in. But Chann is giving me like this picture might end up on the Internet. So I'm gonna give my best smize to the camera.

[Rachel Bilson]

My best smize.

[Olivia Allen]

Or maybe he said something before like, oh, I worked with so and so. He gave him the whole thing. Like, we're part of the same world. Let's get a picture.

[Lacey Mosley]

There's definitely some chit chat before this picture because it's more leaned in, you're right. Than a normal picture where you see a celebrity and you'd be like, oh, let's get a picture. Like if I was like, oh, when I walked in, I saw Rachel, I was like, oh, let's get a picture. I saw you, Olivia. And I was like, oh, let's get a picture. It would be more stiff. This feels like they had a little combo. And. And then you know what it gives? What it gives.

[Olivia Allen]

We did a podcast.

[Lacey Mosley]

My daughter loves you. My daughter loves you. It gives. My daughter loves you. Like, can we take a picture for my daughter?

[Rachel Bilson]

My daughter loves you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Anybody who tells me like, let's take a picture. And they're like, for a kid or a baby, they could be like, my dog loves you. I'm like, oh, let's get in here for your dog. And then I would be more engaging right Absolutely. Yeah. Than someone who's just like, can we take a picture? But if someone's like, oh, my daughter loves you, like, she's going to love this. And I'll be like, oh, yeah, let's, like, ham it up. That's what. It's good.

[Olivia Allen]

What was the first movie he was an intern on or something?

[Rachel Bilson]

Who?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, John.

[Rachel Bilson]

John.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the first movie that he was an intern on.

[Rachel Bilson]

Wicker Park.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wicker park, right. Oh, okay, Rich. Okay, Rich, listen.

[Olivia Allen]

What was that again? Who was in that?

[Lacey Mosley]

So Wicker Hartnett. Yeah. Had Josh Hartnett and. Yeah, And Greg Kinnear, who I love, and Julianne Moore, who I love.

[Rachel Bilson]

When that's ink. That was not. What.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he's got. Oh, no, that wasn't Wicker Park. That was the English teacher. Wicker park was the first one that he did.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah, he's got enough people to name drop to get a hug picture.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, he's got. You're right. He might have even been like, oh, Julianne, I'm gonna love this for the English teacher.

[Olivia Allen]

She loves your work. She likes the airhead.

[Lacey Mosley]

She wants to do a movie with you. And at that point, Channing was doing dance movies and humping air, so he might have wanted to escalate his career to Julianne Moore. Yeah, Julianne Moore, who's like, you know, like a super bad bitch of Hollywood and prestigious movies. So he was like, yeah, no, Julianne would love you. Let's take a picture for Julianne. You're right. You're right.

[Rachel Bilson]

I like that you come up with this whole backstory just looking at.

[Olivia Allen]

There's a lot in that picture.

[Lacey Mosley]

There is a lot in that picture you guys can decipher for yourselves when you see it on the page. So John is using all of this. He's got the photo of him and Channing looking all loving. He's got the fake llc. He's really raising money, using this to power it. Right. And like, in our industry, a picture would power some insane investments. We all know.

[Rachel Bilson]

I mean, you see it and then you're instantly like, okay, right, because everything.

[Lacey Mosley]

We do is made up. So why not this? Yeah, why not this being made up? Why not? So he did all this. Right. John withdrew more than a million dollars of that investor money that he raised from casinos around the country, according to his 2021 indictment for eight counts of wire fraud and one count of aggravated identity theft and one count of securities fraud. So I always love aggravated identity theft.

[Olivia Allen]

Cause it's like, that's my favorite.

[Lacey Mosley]

Aggravated, like, you, identity Thieved so hard that they said it was aggravated. No, it wasn't regular identity theft. It was aggressive. It was so aggressive.

[Olivia Allen]

He took my face.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? It's like I'm missing two fingers because he needed them for passcodes. Like, it was aggravated. He did too much. So if convicted, all the charges. Like, if he was convicted of all of these charges, John would face a maximum of 182 years in prison. A conviction for aggravated identity theft carries a mandatory minimum sentence of two years behind bars. But that's not his only charge, Right? So John actually awaits sentencing in this case, but has already been found guilty of an equally sexy Hollywood fake. So he's still waiting for, like, the $4 million that he stole from people because of one picture with Channing Tatum. And now I'm like, damn, I really need to get some pictures with some politicians, right? I mean, I talked to Kamala. I got a picture with her. Like, how much can I run that for?

[Olivia Allen]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Because I never thought about it, but now I'm like, yeah, when she left the race, she got a new fundraiser for change and hope.

[Olivia Allen]

How much could you get for hope?

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like you get a lot of money for hope. Yeah. Barack Obama ran on hope two times, and we were like, yes, we need some. We are so desperate. We will take hope.

[Olivia Allen]

Well, 4 million at least.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, Democrats, if you're listening, like, bro, we gotta stop running on policy. Like, just start running on hope. Change.

[Rachel Bilson]

Air hypes.

[Olivia Allen]

Air humping.

[Lacey Mosley]

Air humping. Do a backflip. Jeans. Wear jeans and do a backflip. Okay. Into a suburban mom's coochie. That would work. It would.

[Rachel Bilson]

It would work.

[Lacey Mosley]

Remember when Bill Clinton played the saxophone? I was a child, but I remember this like, it was a very pivotal moment. He was running for president.

[Olivia Allen]

He's been attractive to him.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. There were times where he was hot.

[Olivia Allen]

I find him sexy.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not now, but there were times. Not now, but there were times where he. When he was blowing on that saxophone.

[Rachel Bilson]

We were like, oh, God, I'm not remembering the saxophone.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was a child, but I was like, oh, this. This is doing something for me. It did something for the country. Y' all play an instrument?

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, there he is. Okay. He had sunglasses on, too.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, man. Wait.

[Rachel Bilson]

He's on the Arsenio hall show saxophone.

[Lacey Mosley]

He had his mouth on that thing a lot. Wow. Wowzers.

[Olivia Allen]

I think you're right. I think you need to get into the suburb. Suburban mom coochie.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's what she back.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Yeah. First office we got to get back to this, cuz this is how we get the suburban moms to the polls. They got to think about a poll, and then they go to the polls. Like, okay, if you're a woman, have a hot husband. Okay, if you want to be the first female president of the United States, like, your man is. Used to be like a slam piece. Like, really. And parade him out, put him in some jeans and no shirt. Y' all get on the lawn, do a whole stage photo.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, my God, look at. Look at Bill Clinton with his saxophone.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my goodness, he looks so good. Never knew what was his policies. You know, the scam of Bill Clinton is. Is that because, like, the country was doing so well economically during most of his second term. He was the one who deregulated the banks, and Bush took the fall when the 2008, like, housing bubble burst. It was actually Bill Clinton. I hate to say this, I love when he was sucking on that saxophone. I love when he was sucking on it. But he actually was the one who deregulated a lot of the issues that ended up being why people lost their homes, why so many people were getting loans at like. Like, extreme interest rates and getting their homes taken from them. It was. Cause it was like, times are good. We'll deregulate the banking. And then George Bush had to take the L for it. Honestly, sometimes I look back at George Bush and it's only because of Donald Trump. But I look at George Bush and I'm like, maybe he was a fun guy we hated so much he just wanted to do cocaine. He was a C student, and he likes. He paints now, and his paintings are pretty decent. And we like him. We like him now. Isn't that wild?

[Olivia Allen]

I think we all did that. We were like, I miss George. What's he about, too?

[Lacey Mosley]

Trump really cleaned up the reputation for so many presidents. We're like Nixon. Was he that bad? Yeah. Deep throat, listening Watergate. But was he that bad of a guy? Like, maybe we liked him.

[Rachel Bilson]

That's right. It's so true.

[Lacey Mosley]

So true. So you hear that if you're out.

[Rachel Bilson]

There doing it, you know, who thought we would have went from Magic Mike to Bill Clinton playing a saxophone? Honestly, it's all in the same. It's all in the same wheelhouse.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like Bill Clinton in his heyday probably could have done a backflip and some jeans suburban mom.

[Rachel Bilson]

That I.

[Lacey Mosley]

Would like to see, like, vote for me, you know, that's how you get the votes. I'm not against too many visuals, too Many visuals, honestly. But we're wrapping up here. So we have fake Tales from the Crypt as we wrap up here. So In January of 2020, a British investor claimed that John our. Our magic. Our not so Magic Mike. So this British investor claimed that John had defrauded them out of $100,000 in a fake movie deal. And the Rhode Island State Police opened an investigation. I don't know what they're doing in Rhode Island. Feels like they should be doing this. I only know about me, myself and Irene. That's all I know about Rhode Island. I feel like I should know more.

[Olivia Allen]

That was a good movie.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was. So John had claimed he was rebooting the HBO series Tales from the Crypt as a film film, and he needed $350,000 to get the project off of the ground. So we have a Tales from the cryp promo from 1989. I, as all of us, work in film and television. If you say reboot, I'm not gonna question it because that's like one of the biggest money making strategies that's still happening.

[Olivia Allen]

Especially Tales from the Crypt.

[Rachel Bilson]

So scary. The Crypt Keeper was so scary.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was. I was someone.

[Rachel Bilson]

Should we book? I think he tried.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, wow.

[Rachel Bilson]

OG Tales from the Crypt.

[Lacey Mosley]

Let's see if it holds up. Oh, the scary man. Oh, prison. That's scary. Okay. A lot of, like, current need a little holiday fear.

[Rachel Bilson]

I have this little number from Superman.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn. This is not that scary now.

[Olivia Allen]

I wouldn't count on it, but you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Can count on my directors. Three Tales from the Crypt, June 10th on HBO. It's a night to dismember. A night to dismember.

[Rachel Bilson]

I love a tagline.

[Lacey Mosley]

That is a great logline. That is not as scary to me now.

[Rachel Bilson]

Well, 1989, what they're working with.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, that's true. Because right now, it's like, if you open your eyes, terror is around waking up, right? We've become so numb to fear. We're like, oh, they. There was like a report of, like, aliens or something during, like, Covid. And we were like, we don't give a fuck. Are they gonna take us with them?

[Olivia Allen]

Like, do they have toilet paper?

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? We're like, okay, Area 51. Are they? But do they want to beat me up? No, I don't care. Like, we're so desensitized. That actually probably really hit hard in 1989.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

When you sat down and chose to watch.

[Rachel Bilson]

I still remember it was the scariest shit ever. But I don't remember if it was just, like, fakes. I don't remember what the show was. I just remember the Crypt Keeper.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, damn. I'm like, I don't know if you could even like do that now. I don't know Tales from the Crypt, but they just play CNN like everything is scary. I don't. I don't know if you can recreate that, but. So in 2018, John lied to an unnamed British investor, the one that we're talking about, about landing an agreement with Har. Harvey Weinstein's production company to make the film. Weinstein was me too'd and I don't like the Me too'd thing. How did that become a verb? Harvey Weinstein, all his crimes caught up to him. Cause he was doing hella crimes and it caught up to him. And that caught up to him in October of 2017. For reference, like, this investor did apparently ignore some red flags because John was like, oh, I'm working with Weinstein and Miramax and don't look at the news like. And obviously there's some flags there because at this point everybody, everyone, like finally got that man put away. So the investor entered into a contract with John and Aloris Entertainment. Remember Aloris? That was where he had the magic wag thing. That required the investor to finance the remake of Tales from the Crypt. The victim wired John about $100,000 in seed funding to begin organization of the film project. After time passed with no reported progress on the film, the investor contacted friends in the film industry and eventually discovered the project was. Was not real. Why wouldn't you contact friends in the film industry before you send $100,000? I'm not gonna victim blame because this sounds legit to me. They're rebooting everything. Why not Tales from the Crypt?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah, and his credits and everything else. He has credits.

[Olivia Allen]

That's the scary part, Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

You're right. And when she brought that up like, of like the credits that he had from like Wicker park and like the English Patient, like he has legit credits that were recognized. So why would you. That's so true. So meanwhile, John was withdrawing this money from the Allures accounts and spent it at Twin River Casino, Foxwoods Casino, and Mohegan Sun Casino on several different occasions. So he clearly has a gambling problem. He wasn't sweating in that picture, but he was sweating a different kind of bullet from his gambling addiction. And he did that between April of 2018 and September of 2018. He spent a hundred thousand dollars. Investors found his bank records that most of the spending, like when they looked in the bank Records was casino based and none of it was film based. He was arrested in 2020 and found guilty of one count of obtaining money under false pretenses. Over $10,000 in 2023. So he hasn't really been that reprimanded.

[Rachel Bilson]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

How do you feel about this guy? Do we. Do we like him? Do we hate him? Do we think he's a weirdo?

[Rachel Bilson]

Do we like him? I mean, look, here's the thing. He took money and it was like supporting his addiction to gambling. Right? The guy obviously has a problem. I wouldn't say I think it's really fucked up, but I don't like to say hate. Yeah, I mean, I don't like it. I don't agree.

[Lacey Mosley]

Someone who had $100,000 to spare for a movie. He hung out with Chrissy Teigen. I mean, I'm sure Channing had some weird conversations where he was like, I don't know that man. We just took a picture.

[Olivia Allen]

I always end up feeling bad for the criminal in a way, cuz I'm like, what brought you to the place that that's what you're doing?

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, look at his wife. I feel bad. None of this.

[Olivia Allen]

None of this.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's not giving. She knows she married a criminal.

[Rachel Bilson]

Does he have kids? Was that his kid in that picture? That's what I would feel bad about.

[Olivia Allen]

Like, it is addiction. It is addiction. Someone lost their money. No one got hurt. I think if you're facing 108 years.

[Rachel Bilson]

I think it was 182.

[Olivia Allen]

182 years.

[Lacey Mosley]

If he actually goes down.

[Olivia Allen]

And you never hurt any. Anyone physically. I know there's emotional trauma that comes with it, but.

[Lacey Mosley]

But if you have money lying around to invest in Magic Mike, are you really hurting that bad? Like, if I had money laying around to invest in Magic Mike, I'd be like, damn, that was a scam. Ah, well, you know, like diversify your portfolio. Like, did you put your fam. Did you put your kids college tuition in Magic Mike? Maybe after seeing a show. Cause those backflips were good. They were humping the air real good. The air even got horny. The air looked horny here. So Jess is like bringing the video back. Would you invest in this? I'm asking you both. I'm going to do a poll. You would invest? Yes. I didn't.

[Rachel Bilson]

I mean, I'd invest for the night.

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'll get some dollar bills. A couple ones.

[Rachel Bilson]

Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley]

But that's it. You're not getting so shares in this Jean Hump.

[Rachel Bilson]

If I was Is it still like a show in Vegas?

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like to. This might be. Yes, it is. Yes.

[Olivia Allen]

Whoever actually invested is smart.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Cuz what?

[Rachel Bilson]

Is this going to get old?

[Olivia Allen]

Yeah, I know it's never going to get old.

[Rachel Bilson]

Yeah. It's not like. Right. It's not specific to the time.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you know what? It's good that chaining like Channing was involved in this because it's not just them like thrusting their banana hammock at you. They're doing some Coro. Just like a very horny performance.

[Olivia Allen]

I would invest.

[Rachel Bilson]

It might as. Might as well be Cirque du Soleil, you guys.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, right.

[Rachel Bilson]

You know, a little hornier.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Rachel Bilson]

But is it just a little bit.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is kind of horny in an art way?

[Rachel Bilson]

I mean, they. The things they're doing with their bodies. I'm just saying.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you're right. You could look at that.

[Olivia Allen]

It's a niche horny.

[Rachel Bilson]

It's a niche. It's a. It's a niche horny. It's a fetish for sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

There used to be this thing called the Universal Soul Circus and I. I guess it was like when black people went and did the circus. I don't wanna say too much, cause I don't wanna get it wrong, but I definitely remember a woman, like, smoking a cigarette, but with her foot.

[Olivia Allen]

Oh, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And some other part.

[Rachel Bilson]

Oh, oh, I've heard of this.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know if I was old enough to be at what I was at.

[Olivia Allen]

That's something I've never tried.

[Rachel Bilson]

Are you sure?

[Olivia Allen]

I had to think about it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my goodness. Well, that brings us to the end of a fantastic episode. Thank you both so much. We always ask, where would you like to be found? Where can people listen to you? All of the good things.

[Rachel Bilson]

When you said found, I was like, my body.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh my gosh. You and Nathan Kress did this. And then Nathan was so quick. He was like, the La Brea Tar Pits. I was like, what? Why would you say that? Not dead. No. Where do you want people to find you? We don't want them to find you where you don't want to be found. Right?

[Rachel Bilson]

Yes. We have broad ideas and you can listen to it wherever you listen to your podcast. We are also on YouTube if you want to watch us on while we talk. Because that's a lot of fun. And we talk about everything.

[Lacey Mosley]

Everything. Honey, you heard it. Broad ideas. Get into it if y' all want to see parts of the show. And lots of horny videos. Apparently this week, Scam got his pod on Instagram. If you want to follow me and my shenanigans. The I V A L A C I D valacy on all platforms. If you want to see Scam God, it's a television show. All episodes are streaming now on Hulu. You can pick up my book wherever books are sold. Also, Scam Goddess, we're keeping the brand strong. And y', all, I don't know if you've heard, but Going Dutch is coming back. So I am going to Ireland in a couple months and we're shooting season two. But you can watch all episodes of Going Dutch, the first season on Hulu as well. And Congregation, I want you to get out there and I want you to stay air humping. Put your best jeans on and grind that air. Amen. Yeah, I've got it is this has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacy Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming. Adam Pally here. And I'm John Gabris. We're a couple actors and best friends who you may know as the host of the TV show 101 Places to Park party before you die. Now we're bringing you a comedic look at health and wellness with our new show, Staying Alive. We'll have guests like our friend, actor Jerry O', Connell, ketamine therapist, Dr. Stephen Radowitz, Paul Shear, Ego Wodom, Gillian Bell, Dr. Dolittle. Staying alive with John Gabrison and Adam Pali is out right now. Get them a week early and ad free with SiriusXM podcast plus on Apple Podcasts. Breathe in. Feel the sense of calm that comes from having up to $300 in overdraft protection with care Goto bank now. Did you say $300? Yes. Now back to our breathing. So if I overspend my balance, go2bank has my back up to $300. Yes. Can we breathe out now? Less worries, more zen. With over $300 in overdraft protection, tap to open an account today. Eligible direct deposits and opt in required for overdraft protection fees. Terms and conditions apply.